Next hurdle: Josh Johnson

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DAP

September 29th, 2009
2:04 pm

Pete, i would. and again, for the purposes of the discussion at hand, it works.

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2009
2:05 pm

VJ-

Gee, thanks for raining on my joy :evil:

Vinings Jim

September 29th, 2009
2:05 pm

Bobby’s – that’s setting a very low bar – I’m sure you’re doing much better ;)

McFann =Ô=

September 29th, 2009
2:06 pm

HE SO TOTALLY DIDN’T MAKE THAT CATCH!! Holy CRUD! That’s no catch…DANGIT!

If the Braves miss the playoffs by one game, Clint Barmes is my new least favorite player in baseball…

And because we don’t live in a world where a game is reversed after Greg Brady blows up a photo to show a football player out of bounds, Sunday’s game will stand for Colorado’s benefit.

:lol: Wonder if Boog saw that?

cabravesfan

Well, that would work for me, too. Just as long as they don’t start at 10! :)

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2009
2:07 pm

McFann-

Girl, it’s the playoffs! Stay up late :D

Rock On......

September 29th, 2009
2:08 pm

Anders….too many scenarios to uncover just yet. I don’t think the Braves are paying him his 12 million option and then try to sign him to an extension during the year. With KK looking every bit as good as Hudson (if not better)the Braves lose nothing by letting Hudson walk other than 1 million. They can save the difference in KK’s and Hudson’s contract and sign a free agent bat along with the money saved by letting the non-producers/FA’s go i.e. KJ, Church, Anderson, Norton.

The rise of Vazquez has put Hudson’s future with Atlanta in a whole new light. If Hudson wants to stay in Atlanta he will restructure a contract extension at 10 mil or less per year. Of course the Angels and Rockies are expressing a lot of interest in Hudson over the last month so the Braves may get outbid anyway.

DAP

September 29th, 2009
2:08 pm

jeff rExercising Hudson’s option, with Kawakami on the payroll, makes for more dollars for pitching, correct? A portion of Hundson’s salary this year was covered by insurance, if I recall.

no, because the braves are already paying hudson and kawakami this year (both have decreasing salaries next season) and although the braves probably received some money back on an insurance claim for hudson, we dont know how much and it is not factored into the bottom line that we all use.

also, you cant say laroche would boost payroll, because dont know where else payroll will be shed. anderson, norton, soriano, gonzalez are all free agents. church and johnson are non-tender candidates.

and pete, and anders, count me among those who think there is no way hudson turns down $12mil next season if his option is exercised.

Bobby's Cox

September 29th, 2009
2:09 pm

VJ… I don’t know, the results weren’t necessarily better if you read the conversations, but they were promising…

Soph

September 29th, 2009
2:09 pm

Rally and I are getting nervous… But we like it!!

I can’t sit still! I keep fidgeting around. It’s exciting! :-D

McFann =Ô=

September 29th, 2009
2:09 pm

faninva

Good night…that guy is so int’resting, he’s everywhere! :lol:

unbelievable

September 29th, 2009
2:12 pm

so barmes didnt catch it and a call went the wrong way, still a terrible baserunning mistake.

if we could go back and take all of Norton’s ab’s away from him and give them to Ross we’d probably be 2-3 games better in the standings also

Bobby's Cox

September 29th, 2009
2:12 pm

Hudson loves NASCAR to much to go to New York. Didn’t he already mention a hometown discount thing? Plus, the Mets suck, and we’re getting better and better…

RHR

September 29th, 2009
2:12 pm

Hey Rob, how about maybe be a good sport and take the shot at Chipper off your name for this last stretch, eh?

Vinings Jim

September 29th, 2009
2:12 pm

cabravesfan – there are three games on 10/7 and 10/8, 4 on 10/11, so those are the most likely nights that there will be a 7:15 PDT start. Two games the other days (of course, rain could alter that)…

UNCBrave

September 29th, 2009
2:12 pm

Trade Kawakami for some minor leaguers…That would get $$$$ off the books to re-sign HUDSON…

Bobby's Cox

September 29th, 2009
2:13 pm

No way Hudson wants to be teammates with Francouer again ;)

Rob from SC

September 29th, 2009
2:14 pm

RHR

I did it just for you, even though he homered last night.

Carroll Rogers

September 29th, 2009
2:16 pm

Love the anticipation on the blog. You guys are making me laugh.

McFann =Ô=

September 29th, 2009
2:16 pm

cabravesfan

You better BELIEVE I will!! :D

Soph

Ditto! :D

Tomas

September 29th, 2009
2:16 pm

Oh my god, I don’t believe the Rockies got away with another controversial play. But I don’t blame the umpires I saw the video I thought he caught it.

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2009
2:17 pm

VJ-

I would have no objections to a 7:15 start (sorry McFann!)

RHR

September 29th, 2009
2:17 pm

That’s the spirit, Rob. Thanks. :D

RHR

September 29th, 2009
2:18 pm

Hey cab and Jim. :D Y’all don’t miss the blog version of the believe signs on the FB group. :lol:

bravesgrl4life

September 29th, 2009
2:18 pm

I cannot wait for Friday night!!! I have so much to do here at work and cannot seem to find enough focus to do it. I’ve got to get this done. Can it possibly wait until after October? Probably not, but I sure wish it could.

Nova Scotia Steve - Fight Like A Brave

September 29th, 2009
2:19 pm

I’m sick to my stomach…God I hope Tim Hudson can do this tonight…

bravesgrl4life

September 29th, 2009
2:19 pm

RHR, where’s the link for that?

mexican-brave

September 29th, 2009
2:19 pm

Mexican brave BELIEVES – vamos BRAVOOOOOOS!!!
if we get to the playoffs, i’ll travel to atlanta to watch them…

Anders

September 29th, 2009
2:20 pm

and pete, and anders, count me among those who think there is no way hudson turns down $12mil next season if his option is exercised. (DAP)

Father time is ticking on Hudson. He see’s that the Braves have arms on all sides. If he thinks he can strike now and get 2 or 3 years I say he goes. If he waits another year he could get hurt again or the Braves just might decide they have enough and don’t need him and he hits the market anyway but a year older and with more wear and tear on the wing. Again, how he finishes out this week is crucial.

cabravesfan

September 29th, 2009
2:22 pm

RHR-

Hey :) I have no idea what you are refering to :?

Nova Scotia Steve - Fight Like A Brave

September 29th, 2009
2:23 pm

Hold on to that feeling!

Piedmont Blues

September 29th, 2009
2:23 pm

Anders,

If the Braves are considering picking up Hudson’s option, then they’re also thinking about a contract extension. If the club is convinced he’s fully recovered, there’s no reason to believe he can’t pitch effectively for another three years, given the track record of pitchers after TJ surgery.

If they don’t think he’s recovered, they’ll let him go. (Payroll considerations may force them to let him go anyway, but that’s another discussion.)

Nova Scotia Steve - Fight Like A Brave

September 29th, 2009
2:23 pm

I have the BELIEVE poster on the wall in my office…gives me chills every time i look at it

Bobby's Cox

September 29th, 2009
2:24 pm

Hey cab and Jim. :D Y’all don’t miss the blog version of the believe signs on the FB group

RHR,

I still don’t “believe” you saw my BELIEVE sign! It’s on the 1st page. I know you’ll love it..

RHR

September 29th, 2009
2:24 pm

faninva

September 29th, 2009
2:25 pm

Oh my god, I don’t believe the Rockies got away with another controversial play. But I don’t blame the umpires I saw the video I thought he caught it -Tomas

I agree – I saw the play live as well. I think he caught it – as much as i hate to say it, i think the photos are doctored.

bravesgrl4life

September 29th, 2009
2:25 pm

got my BELIEVE banner :)

bravesgrl4life

September 29th, 2009
2:25 pm

Thanks, RHR!

Vinings Jim

September 29th, 2009
2:26 pm

RHR – I caught quite a few on the late night – well done!

beekay

September 29th, 2009
2:30 pm

I have to tivo the Braves game and watch something else, that way I can fast forward when things get stressful so I don’t have to wait for the outcome…that and cutting out all the commercials. I couldn’t stand it when the Marlins got runners on with no outs and I had caught up with the taped version. I had to watch the football game for a half hour and then come back to the tivo

Vinings Jim

September 29th, 2009
2:31 pm

I am sorry I will be missing the anticipation for the next four hours, but there are two young ‘academically gifted’ ladies who need my help in improving their SAT scores ;)

I will be back an inning or two into the game – don’t go too crazy until then…

TnBrian

September 29th, 2009
2:31 pm

I think the key tonight is McLouth, especially if Johnson is on his game. Manufacturing runs would be important & McLouth has the speed to steal bases while Prado/CJ drive him in. Looks like Nate has gotten pull happy again, so Bobby or TP need to slap him on the hand if he starts that tonight.

Anybody a little worried about what we’ll get out of Hudson? I am.

bravesgrl4life

September 29th, 2009
2:31 pm

RHR, Love the Soriano ones. Man, if anyone can put fear in somebody with a look, it oughta be him. Okay, I gotta get back to work.

Anders

September 29th, 2009
2:32 pm

Hudson loves NASCAR to much to go to New York. Didn’t he already mention a hometown discount thing? Plus, the Mets suck, and we’re getting better and better… (Bobby’s Cox)

Doesn’t seem that long ago most of you couldn’t picture Frenchy soaking up the big city so much that he’s now angling for a big contract to park his tractor there permanently.

At this point of their lives with their wealth most of these guys have more in common with the wallstreet investment bankers in NY than they do with the fellas they went to high school with.

FEAR

September 29th, 2009
2:33 pm

what’s the chances the Stros sweep the phils? hahaha

Steve McP

September 29th, 2009
2:33 pm

Carroll, re your 2:16 – just watch the mood change if somebody makes an error or strikes out in a big situation. The blogsphere is very fickle, also Paul Lentz and his posse are not here yet to tell us all interminably how Cox is to blame for our performances ……….. oh wait that can’t be right having won 15 of 17, he was though surely to blame for the umpires missing the Barmes catch.

GTSteve

September 29th, 2009
2:34 pm

Tigers Twins..1 to 1 in the bottom of the ninth..it is nice watching a good pennant race, when you don’t have 40 years invested in one of the teams…lol

cdog

September 29th, 2009
2:34 pm

THE BRAVES WILL WIN BUT THEY SHOULD WATCH THE BREWERS WHO MIGHT THROW GAMES TO THE ROCKIES ON PURPOSE.

McFann =Ô=

September 29th, 2009
2:34 pm

cabravesfan

7:15 PT? Hmm…well, they’d be in the playoffs. I’d rather have 10:15 PM playoff games than no playoff games at all!!

Mr. Enigma

September 29th, 2009
2:35 pm

If the Braves make it in, anyone who watched Bobby enough in the playoffs knows he’s handing the ball to Derek Lowe in Game 1, no matter what Lowe’s done in September. I remember back to 2005 against the Astros. We all know what Brian McCann after being called up that season. So who got the start behind the dish in Game 1? Johnny Estrada, of course. Also, Ryan Langerhans hit about .370 in September that year. So who got the start in left field in Game 1? Brian Jordan, of course.

Bobby is loyal to the veterans. And for the record, the Braves lost Game 1 10-5.

Mike S

September 29th, 2009
2:35 pm

Huddy normally owns the Fish. We just have to hope that continues.

I’m excited to be heading down to the Ted in a couple of hours…

Rob from SC

September 29th, 2009
2:35 pm

Anders

The only reason why Francoeur wants a contract because he knows he sucks and wants security

Daybed Wagmoe

September 29th, 2009
2:35 pm

Gotta say, I’m nervous about tonight’s game with Hudson going against Johnson. Braves’ hitters will need to be smart against Johnson and get their pitches to hit; while Huddy’s been solid in his 5 starts this year, he’ll need to bring his WHIP down a bit (1.418 entering tonight’s game) and keep the Marlins off the bases.

But I know they can do it….BELIEVE!!!

pryguy

September 29th, 2009
2:36 pm

I have a final to take tonight at 6 pm, for a one credit MBA class…My performance will surely be altered through anxiety and rushing to get home to watch the game…unfortunately on GAMETRACKER…if anyone has a live radio feed for tonight, please post if you get a chance. Up in Pennsylvania, don’t have the chance to actually watch the game. Maybe ESPN 360 will have it or another site. Please post if someone gets around to it. CMON HUDDY!!!!!!!!!!!

Soph

September 29th, 2009
2:36 pm

The Lowe believe one is hilarious. Good job.

faninva

September 29th, 2009
2:36 pm

Anybody a little worried about what we’ll get out of Hudson? I am. – TriBrian

…count me in.

Tomas

September 29th, 2009
2:37 pm

Will McCann get a day off some time this week if the Braves are still in it. I wouldn’t think so, but he looks a bit tired and David Ross has been a great fill in. By the way this Braves bulpen can be the best in Baseball no doubt, maybe second to the Dodgers. It’s to bad Raffy and Mike are FA’s, and I would think they’re going to get a big payday.

What will they do next year. They should make Moylan the closer and keep Mike Gonzalez as a setup guy. And they should sign another FA like Latroy Hawkins, Rafael Betancourt, Brandon Lyon, or Takashi Saito. They won’t lose draft picks given they will recover them with either Gonzo or Soriano. And they should trade Kawakami for prospects, a third base prospect perhaps a Mat Gamel could be a logical target.

Anders

September 29th, 2009
2:38 pm

If the Braves are considering picking up Hudson’s option, then they’re also thinking about a contract extension. If the club is convinced he’s fully recovered, there’s no reason to believe he can’t pitch effectively for another three years, given the track record of pitchers after TJ surgery. (Piedmont)

OK, so if the Braves pick up his option then you think they’ll extend at $12 mil/per plus? Based on your post above there’s no reason Hudson should expect a pay cut – right?

Bobby's Cox

September 29th, 2009
2:39 pm

My favorite was the MFIKY promotion…

Anders

September 29th, 2009
2:41 pm

The only reason why Francoeur wants a contract because he knows he sucks and wants security (Rob From SC)

So why did Chipper want that extension last off season again? {:

Gustopher

September 29th, 2009
2:41 pm

Great blog CR. You are right this is a key game. It’s huge!

Mixxo

September 29th, 2009
2:42 pm

Twinkies WANT this one.

Mixxo

September 29th, 2009
2:44 pm

faninva -

Yeah, I’m a little worried too. Always thought we rushed him back. Hope he proves me wrong. Need to have KK ready.

Anders

September 29th, 2009
2:45 pm

Tomas – What about Wagner? I think he’d sign a one year deal. Probably reasonable too. He wants to close though – nothing else. He wants to pad his numbers to get try and make the HOF. Give him credit that he at least admits it.

Eddie Haskell

September 29th, 2009
2:48 pm

Tomas

September 29th, 2009
2:49 pm

Hudson is going to get an extension and a pay cut. Maybe 8-9 per year. Next year it will be 12 million then it should be 8million, and then 7 million. So like a 3 year 27 million extension. I think that would be fair for both the team and Huddy.

Coldwork

September 29th, 2009
2:49 pm

Anders,

I don’t think Frenchy had a choice in where he went. He didn’t sign on with the Mets, he was traded. Just sayin…

Soph

September 29th, 2009
2:50 pm

So why did Chipper want that extension last off season again? {:

Because he wanted to try and retire as a Brave.

Nova Scotia Steve - Fight Like A Brave

September 29th, 2009
2:52 pm

Yes I’m worried about Hudson too

Mr. Mouf

September 29th, 2009
2:53 pm

Enter your comments here

Daybed Wagmoe

September 29th, 2009
2:54 pm

Mixxo

September 29th, 2009
2:55 pm

Granderson comes up big….with a jack to lead off the bottom 10th. 3-2 Twins.

RHR

September 29th, 2009
2:55 pm

I don’t want the Twins to overtake the Tigers.

Here’s the thing on Jeff:

Jeff Francoeur has stated on several occasions that he’s found a new lease on life with the Mets since being acquired in a July trade with the Braves, and wants to stick around.

Now, he’s openly lobbying for a contract. He told Newsday he wants to be a regular. “Francoeur, 25, is so comfortable with the Mets that he wants to sit down with Omar Minaya this offseason to talk about a multiyear contract that would buy out his remaining arbitration and keep him here for an extended period,” notes the article. “If Francoeur can be this happy — and productive — during the worst of times, that might not be a bad idea. ‘I’d love for that to happen,’ Francoeur said. ‘I think there’s a lot to be said when you feel like you can pencil a guy in for 158 games and not have to worry about rightfield.’”

With all due lack-of-respect for Frenchy’s OBP, maybe he’s got a point. Penciling in anybody consistently might be something the Mets should consider.

Lobbying for players and now lobbying for a contract. I’d say he feels pretty comfortable in his new shoes. Heh. Sign him up, Mets.

Redirect

September 29th, 2009
2:56 pm

Does anyone have the link to the NY Mets “Epic Friggin’ Collapse” banner picture? That was hilarious!!! I have been looking for it on previous blogs but can’t find it. Meant to print it out, but wasn’t able to do so when it was first posted.

bravesgirlnc

September 29th, 2009
2:56 pm

Finally in town and planning to head to the game tonight!! Whoo hoo!!

TnBrian

September 29th, 2009
2:56 pm

Nova Scotia, you almost sound a little too stressed. Am I right? If so, it ain’t worth it, man. Nothing you, me, & to a point, the Braves can do about their situation. The Braves aren’t slowing down. The question is, how much fight will Milawaukee and LA put up against Colorado? See, out of our control.

Brave4life

September 29th, 2009
2:56 pm

WHERE ARE THE BRAVES FANS IN ATLANTA???????????????????????????go to the ballgame

FEAR

September 29th, 2009
2:57 pm

DET and Min making it interesting

Frank Wren

September 29th, 2009
2:57 pm

Id put it 1000 to 1 Hudson going to the Mets. He isnt a New York kind of guy. Francouer didnt mind because both his parents are yankees. They had only recently moved to the south.

Hudson is a country boy through and through. No way he goes to NY especially not the Mets. Somewhere like Houston or Texas maybe but not NY.

Brave4life

September 29th, 2009
2:57 pm

I would not miss a game if i lived in Atlanta, damn New York

Mixxo

September 29th, 2009
2:58 pm

My Scandinavian heritage says Twins….

My Leyland (best mgr. in MLB!) love however, lends to the conflict.

GTSteve

September 29th, 2009
2:58 pm

If Nathan blows this one, he will be available next year

McFann =Ô=

September 29th, 2009
2:58 pm

Yep, my post didn’t show up. Took me about 10 minutes to refresh the page, too…

Oh well…computer’s being a butt…might as well go outside for some catch. It’s in the 60’s here, people.

Brave4life

September 29th, 2009
3:00 pm

I am so anxious right now…………..

Daybed Wagmoe

September 29th, 2009
3:00 pm

Mixxo

September 29th, 2009
3:01 pm

Brave4life

September 29th, 2009
3:01 pm

We need braves fans at the TED, plain and simple Chipper literally begged for fans to come out and watch the game

Brave4life

September 29th, 2009
3:02 pm

Hopefully Johnson is not 100 percent

You all are Cox apologists

September 29th, 2009
3:02 pm

WE’LL DEFINITELY LOSE TONIGHT, (I PRAY WE WIN)

Bank on it. Cox will piss his pants tonight and cost us the game. The ONLY REASON the Braves got back in the race is because the pressure was off. NOW that there’s PRESSURE to win, THEY’LL FOLD like LAWN CHAIRS. Bet on it, I’ve seen COX and the BRAVES do this before, ONLY TO LEAVE US HEARTBROKEN.

Brave4life

September 29th, 2009
3:04 pm

You all are Cox apologists

I know wut you mean, but they need our support right now. at least they put a show on for the braves fans. if the braves go 4-2 the braves will have 90 wins. Who would have thought that at the allstar break.

Mixxo

September 29th, 2009
3:05 pm

You all are Cox apologists –

Optimism reigns supreme! :-D

faninva

September 29th, 2009
3:05 pm

wish i could go to the game, but alas, i’m just a poor fan in virginia. can’t even go see the richmond braves anymore, thanks to Mr. Wilder. still have a lot of great memories though… saw a lot of now atl braves back in the day – even saw “prime time” strike out 4 times in one game…priceless.

Brave4life

September 29th, 2009
3:05 pm

I have a fealin the tonights gonna be a good night

indianabravesfan

September 29th, 2009
3:05 pm

YAACA:

come on, not now.

Brave4life

September 29th, 2009
3:07 pm

i think that TONIGHT is the BIGGEST game of all 6

raleighbravefan

September 29th, 2009
3:07 pm

Anders – Frenchy has never been or never will be Chipper Jones – even an old Chipper. BTW, Chipper has restructured his contract and taken less at least twice in his career to free up team money so Braves could sign someone.

Brave4life

September 29th, 2009
3:08 pm

american league centeral sucks no one will get to 85 wins

Anders

September 29th, 2009
3:09 pm

Because he wanted to try and retire as a Brave (Soph)

About a month ago it seemed he had. {:

Tomas

September 29th, 2009
3:10 pm

Anders, I’d love to have Wagner closing out games, but I just think he’s going to settle for somewhere around the neighborhood of 8 million, same with Jose Valverde. If the Braves have money why not, but I would not think they have the money to keep Laroche, Hudson, and sign Wagner.

What I would do is sign Huddy to an extension to a 3 year deal worth 27 million, Laroche to a 3 years 24 million, Mike Gonzalez to 2 years 8 million, and Latroy Hawkins, or Rafael Betancourt to 2 year deals worth 6-7 million, and trade Kawakami for some prospects, hopefully a 3B prospect like Mat Gamel of the Brewers(who have two good 3B right now and both of them are rookies, and they need starting pitching)

Mr. Mouf

September 29th, 2009
3:10 pm

where we go braves
here we go……………..

FEAR

September 29th, 2009
3:12 pm

Brave4life
i think that TONIGHT is the BIGGEST game of all 6

I agree 100%

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