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Jurrjens4NLCY - Fight Like A Perpetual Moving, Counting, Believing Brave
September 26th, 2009
6:31 pm
Do they have Gibson’s in Georgia?
Paul Lentz
September 26th, 2009
6:34 pm
Who knew……….did you even watch the first 3 months of the season? Did you see Bobby’s refusal to bench Kelly and Francoeur?
Sure, I’m not “privy” to how Bobby Cox’s mind works. However, it doesnt take a rocket science to figure out who a manager would “rather” see playing when he benches a player in a 13 for 26 stretch……..just so he can give his boy Francoeur “some at-bats”. Diaz basically had to go 23 for 45 in order to secure his spot in the lineup. Dude is a lifetime .313 hitter in 1,263 at-bats. Yet Frank Wren basically had to take the decision away from Bobby by trading Francoeur.
I pay attention to the actions of a manager. Over time, the actions paint a picture.
Jurrjens4NLCY - Fight Like A Perpetual Moving, Counting, Believing Brave
September 26th, 2009
6:34 pm
Dense, why do you keep referring to the Braves in terms of “WE”, do you think you are part of the team or something?
Not this again…. [Facepalm]
Being a fan of a sports team, is a lot like being an investor of a company…
So if an investor is apart of that company, a fan is apart of that team…
FEAR
September 26th, 2009
6:35 pm
Do they have Gibson’s in Georgia?
never heard of it guess not
Jurrjens4NLCY - Fight Like A Perpetual Moving, Counting, Believing Brave
September 26th, 2009
6:35 pm
Tony LaRussa always eats steak at Morton’s in Atlanta after a loss, alone.
Jurrjens4NLCY - Fight Like A Perpetual Moving, Counting, Believing Brave
September 26th, 2009
6:37 pm
never heard of it guess not
Hmm. They have real good steaks, but at “Al’s Char House” You could get a 30oz. NY steak for about 20 bucks, and its SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO good.
Who knew
September 26th, 2009
6:38 pm
Well the Braves won, the Ducks are putting the smackdown on Cal, think I’ll go get the bike ready for the MX track tomorrow…
Carry on Mr dense and other assorted negative windbags..
Paul Lentz
September 26th, 2009
6:44 pm
Who knew…………I’ve been a Braves fan since 1982. I’ve paid my dues as a fan.
The reason why I’m critical (even though we are playing better) is because I felt since June that we’ve had the potential to play great baseball. With our pitching, we are capable of winning 10 games in a row. I felt that Bobby’s style of managing was holding the Braves back. Instead of preaching the “let’s take 2 of 3 crap”………I felt that the Braves should have went into certain series with the “let’s try and sweep these guys” mentality. Plus it’s hard to sustain a winning streak without getting a key pinch hit or two (which is asking WAY TOO MUCH of Greg Norton to deliver).
I see the Braves playing with a “sense of urgency” now. They KNOW that they have to sweep these guys. They know that these are winnable games that CANNOT be given away, especially to the lowly Nationals.
If we win tomorrow, then the Florida series isnt a “must sweep”. Sure, it would be nice to see the Braves take all 3 from the Fish. However, the Fish are a competitive team. Taking 2 of 3 from them would not be the end of the world. As long as the Rockies dont sweep the Brewers, then we’ll still be alive if we only win 2 of 3 from the Fish.
However, if we give away one tomorrow to the Nationals……then the Marlins series becomes a “must sweep”. We are talking about “margin of error” here.
I have faith in this current bunch of Braves.
Tomahawkin
September 26th, 2009
6:46 pm
P-Lentz
I will Co-Sign On You last post
People have been in my ass because I said that “They are hot right now because the pressure is off them…”
And we are beating the AAA teams that we should’ve beat early in the season… Where was this style of baseball the braves have played a month ago?
Tomahawkin
September 26th, 2009
6:49 pm
P-Lentz
It wasn’t the last post, but it was the post before that I was Co-Signing on…
Paul Lentz
September 26th, 2009
6:54 pm
Tomahawkin……….I totally agree with your 6:46pm posting. We should have been playing this way since late June/early July. Those 2 games that Bobby Cox mismanaged in Colorado right before the All-Star Break could very well cost us a spot in the playoffs. Along with those 2 games that Bobby bumbled away right after the All-Star Break against the Mets and Giants (you know, that 6-2 homestand that many on here were absolutely “giddy” about. They were happy to settle for 6-2……..when in fact we should have finished 8-0 on that homestand).
Many on here are “content” with good. However, why settle for good when being great is obtainable? Our starting pitching (along with some offensive moves that Bobby was too stubborn to make earlier in the season)……should have catapulted the Braves into a division title.
I feel that it is a “crime shame” (despite some of you ripping me on the phrase, I’m going to stick with it) that the Braves had to wait this late in the season to play this way. I saw the ability to play at this level in June.
Johninnc
September 26th, 2009
6:55 pm
Man Oh man I wish that COL game would start already
Paul Lentz
September 26th, 2009
6:57 pm
Oh, by the way, those 2 games that we gave away to the Rockies in Colorado…….is a 4 game swing in the standings. I recall a few people on here “ripping” me because they only “saw” it as a 2 game swing.
Efrim
September 26th, 2009
6:57 pm
I expect to see St. Louis come out tonight and win. St. Louis is too good a team to be swept in a season series by anyone.
Didn’t the Braves do that….like a couple of weeks ago?
Paul Lentz
September 26th, 2009
6:58 pm
Efrim……..we swept the Cardinals in “a series”……..not a “season series”. If you like, I can explain the difference to you.
Tomahawkin
September 26th, 2009
7:01 pm
Random
LOL
I tried to call a truce, but you don’t quit attacking me, TnBrian, Rob from SC among others. You sound like McSame (McCain), but I’m not gonna go there…
Go to the MLB Braves forum if you are so tired of us…
I for one don’t care if you attack me…
In a serious note, why do you get so P’d off if other bloggers have different sayings/objectives, etc than you…? It’s a Blog dude…How about getting laid once in a while if your so P’d off at us…?
Cheesewhiz! It will help you chill out. If you take your time to spend it on a blog attacking others? Then something is wrong,try taking a break, believe me it works, Dizam!
Brandon from Warner Robins
September 26th, 2009
7:02 pm
Tomahawkin I got that message you sent with the links and all. Listened to much of them this afternoon while workin on my british literature project. Appreciate that.
Johninnc
September 26th, 2009
7:03 pm
6-2 Cubs going into B9
Tomahawkin
September 26th, 2009
7:04 pm
P-Lentz
Co-Sign!
To Your last post…
Have you noticed how much the Phillies have struggled against the NL east…?
However they beat teams like the Padres and Reds which we could not do….That makes the difference…..
Paul Lentz
September 26th, 2009
7:06 pm
Johninnc………what happens to the Giants and Marlins at this point is irrevelant. The Braves need to win games and focus on the Rockies. As long as the Braves continue to win, the Giants and Marlins cant catch us.
Random
September 26th, 2009
7:06 pm
Mitchell (September 26th, 2009 3:04 pm): “It’s our destiny to occassionally say dumbass things.”
Speak for yourself bub.
(Oh, I suppose you were.)
Anyway — imo it’s avoidable. Maybe you should try harder?
Jurrjens4NLCY - Fight Like A Perpetual Moving, Counting, Believing Brave
September 26th, 2009
7:07 pm
we swept the Cardinals in “a series”……..not a “season series”. If you like, I can explain the difference to you.
Ouch. Nice catch Paul Lentz!
Tomahawkin
September 26th, 2009
7:07 pm
Hey B wazzup…?
did the links work…?
I love that Luchini video…
U are lucky that you get to party with college chicks!
Paul Lentz
September 26th, 2009
7:07 pm
Tomahawkin………..I feel that we lost a lot of winnable games this year.
Efrim
September 26th, 2009
7:08 pm
Efrim……..we swept the Cardinals in “a series”……..not a “season series”. If you like, I can explain the difference to you.
Should of read your entire post, but I really didn’t want my brain to ooze out of my ear.
McFann ;Ô;
September 26th, 2009
7:08 pm
Random …“B-Macc”…
Like…doesn’t everybody call him “BMac”?
Tomahawkin
September 26th, 2009
7:09 pm
P-Lentz
Yes We did, and I got my Ass handed to me because I had BF’s when we lost those games….
Brandon from Warner Robins
September 26th, 2009
7:09 pm
Watchin football now Tomahawkin. All of the links worked!
Yes, I AM VERY LUCKY!
McFann ;Ô;
September 26th, 2009
7:10 pm
Hehe…we’ve lost 70 “winnable” games this season!
southern hope
September 26th, 2009
7:10 pm
I want the Rockies to play now! I’m a nervous wreck out here….meanwhile, goodbye Giants…
Johninnc
September 26th, 2009
7:10 pm
Giants lose now let’s go Cards
Brandon from Warner Robins
September 26th, 2009
7:11 pm
McFann I agree
Tomahawkin
September 26th, 2009
7:12 pm
McFann
Is Back…
What’s Happenin Chief!
Mixxo
September 26th, 2009
7:15 pm
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m46/mixineer/smileys/snacks.gif
Manolo
September 26th, 2009
7:18 pm
P-LENTZ, TOMAHAWKIN, the only good thing I can think of that makes me happy with Bobby’s return is that I’m sure Javy Vazquez will sign any kind of contract to stay in Atlanta, even if cox is gone after next year. Newspapers here in PR interview him frequently and he will do anything to stay in Atlanta. Last night I asked, at 8 million Javy and Kawanami at 7, who do you think Wren will keep?
Eventhough, I still believe Wren may not resign Hudson and take those dollars so he can really build the team HE WANTS. Agree or not?
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2009
7:23 pm
Ruth’s Chris is the best steak I’ve ever had.
But, what the heck is up with these steakhouses and the a la carte? I pay $70 for a freakin’ strip, and I can’t get a salad? A baked potato is $15 more? Good thing I’m not a vegi-guy, the green beans are $18.
What is this business plan? Am I wrong? Can’t they just charge me more and include this stuff?
And, I second what that dude said from earlier: Go get ‘em, Random.
Jurrjens4NLCY - Fight Like A Perpetual Moving, Counting, Believing Brave
September 26th, 2009
7:24 pm
I humbly disagree Manolo. Wren will keep both Hudson and Vasquez…
What ever happened to Coach?
September 26th, 2009
7:24 pm
Where is that guy?
Frankie Wren
September 26th, 2009
7:25 pm
It’s hilarious reading some of the comments here(or should I say obtuse comments). Anybody ever play organized baseball here? Seriously. We lost a lot of winnable ballgames. Ah yeah that’s probably right. What about games we shouldn’t have? Getting 3 hits in LA and winning, getting no hit for 7 innings against the Cubs, Lidge throwing a ball away in the 9th. It may not all even out but do you GM’s out there think in these terms before you post. Also about Norton being a detriment. Yeah he sucks. What about Stairs in Philly being the go to guy off the bench. The guy didn’t a hit for over two months. That Manuel man, should have been canned for those decisions. Then again I guess they win 3 straight divisions.
I would have liked to see Cox step away and I think the game has passed him by to a extent. The thing is though the team the Braves are chasing ascribe to similar philosphy. Tracy came in made a couple of changes with position players(Barmes, Hawpe) and pretty much is credited for providing a stable environment conducive to team play. Sound a little familiar?? Lastly, the phrase “playing with sense of urgency” is the most overstated phrase I read here. Gimme a break. It’s about execution and the Braves have done that the last two weeks.
Bay Area Steve
September 26th, 2009
7:26 pm
How does a presumably grown man use the term bitch-fit? Constantly? In nearly every post?
Reality
September 26th, 2009
7:29 pm
OK, so the Braves are 50-30 in the past 80 games.
That’s with all of the Bobby bashing, lots of games with Infante injured. The point: DO NOT trade away starting pitching. Would anyone really complain about a 100-60 record for the season? It’s this simple: Substitute the 2008 Chipper for the 2009 Chipper, and the Braves are in the playoffs — even with the surreal Greg Norton fixation. With this pitching staff, a World Series title is certainly possible.
David O'Brien
September 26th, 2009
7:29 pm
It’s a good thing the game was at 1 and not 4 or 7 because we wouldn’t have played if it had been a later start. It started pouring soon after game, and hasn’t stopped.
Brandon from Warner Robins
September 26th, 2009
7:29 pm
DOB you ever been to Red Hot and Blue up near arlington and d.c.?
Jurrjens4NLCY - Fight Like A Perpetual Moving, Counting, Believing Brave
September 26th, 2009
7:30 pm
I agree, we have all the bats we need, we just need to expect more from them
Jurrjens4NLCY - Fight Like A Perpetual Moving, Counting, Believing Brave
September 26th, 2009
7:32 pm
I think not knowing the Rockies score will help the Braves…
Manolo
September 26th, 2009
7:33 pm
Jurrjens4NLCY, I will love to have Hudson back as well. we will have a staff similar to the 90’s easily. But for that to happen, Wren will need to convince both Vazquez and Hudson to re-sign for lower salaries, so he can trade Lowe with us eating around 4 million of his salary, or trade Kawanami. One of those two will have to happen. Which one, I don’t know…
Steve from OH
September 26th, 2009
7:34 pm
Oh, by the way, those 2 games that we gave away to the Rockies in Colorado…….is a 4 game swing in the standings. I recall a few people on here “ripping” me because they only “saw” it as a 2 game swing.
That’s all fine and dandy, but you can say that about ANY loss this season. But there’s one problem–all baseball teams lose games! That’s it, that’s all. Try again.
John
September 26th, 2009
7:35 pm
Enter your comments here Hey! What about the first three months on bumbling incompetence? Francouer and Kelly Johnson and and the young centerfielder who wasn’t ready and whose name escapes me and no outfield power or leadoff hitter or speed and blown bullpen work have had their predicted effect. Bobby Cox left the pitcher in til he loaded the bases or pinch hit with Greg Norton too many times has had the same effect. This has been a futile season that has been painful to watch,
Gil In Mechanicsville
September 26th, 2009
7:36 pm
BAS.. It’s exactly like a hissy fit but different….
David O'Brien
September 26th, 2009
7:38 pm
I’m a little confused why some here act as though the Braves have played good baseball for only a couple of weeks or a month.
Folks, they are 50-30 since June 28, second-best record in the NL (Philly is 51-30 before tonight’s game) in that span. 50-30 is a half-season of baseball. They’ve been better than the Cardinals, Dodgers and Rockies over that 80-game stretch.
Gil In Mechanicsville
September 26th, 2009
7:38 pm
John.. A manager can only play with the players provided to him by the GM, The GM got better players after the first couple of months and thus, the team is playing better….
McFann ;Ô;
September 26th, 2009
7:40 pm
Brandon–
Thanks!
Tomahawkin–
Yes, I have returned!
Not still stuck on an old Blog…
Nuthin much happening…was watching some of that Red Sox/Yankees game…ugh. Snore-fest…
White Blood Cells
September 26th, 2009
7:44 pm
No one in the National League has gotten the kind of pitching the Brave’s have gotten in the last month. Period
Mixxo
September 26th, 2009
7:44 pm
DOB -
Maybe it’s the 6 or 7 we gave away during that stretch, I dunno.
Sure would be nice to have at least half of them back. Regardless, they’re playing good ball now when it’s mattering more than ever.
David O'Brien
September 26th, 2009
7:45 pm
And it probably shouldn’t be that surprising they got better at midseason, considering they got such dreadful production from the entire outfield early on, with Francoeur playing poorly before he was traded, Schafer leading the world in strikeouts before he got sent down, and Anderson struggling early after missing most of spring training and much of April due to injuries.
In addition, the offense went to a different level after Prado took over at 2B for a slumping Kelly Johnson (that was June 30), and added its biggest power bat with the July 31 traded for LaRoche, who’s been sensational. And when McLouth has been healthy, he’s made an impact. Not as much as they’d expected, but the hammy and other aches have slowed him, more than he admitted I would guess.
Why are they so much better now than they were from April to late June? I think it’s pretty obvious. They’ve got a better lineup now, to go with the same outstanding starting pitching they’ve had all season. And I didn’t even mention the June arrival of Hanson. A good rotation got better when he arrived.
White Blood Cells
September 26th, 2009
7:49 pm
It doesn’t suprise me at all. What does suprise me is that they have had to fight like hell to get in this position. That is why I love this team and this organization. They have not quit.
Brandon from Warner Robins
September 26th, 2009
7:52 pm
I agree with White Blood Cells.
P. W. Hjort
September 26th, 2009
7:53 pm
Oh, by the way, those 2 games that we gave away to the Rockies in Colorado…….is a 4 game swing in the standings. I recall a few people on here “ripping” me because they only “saw” it as a 2 game swing.
Good lord. It is only a 2 game swing in the standings. Game 2 result: Rockies win, gain .5 games in the standings, Braves lose, lose .5 games in standings. Game 4 result, Rockies win, gain .5 games in the standings, Braves lose, lose .5 games in the standings. What’s .5+.5+.5+.5? 2.
ncscoots
September 26th, 2009
7:59 pm
I pay attention to the actions of a manager. Over time, the actions paint a picture.
Hopefully, for the Dentz-er of our posters, there are some numbers on that picture. Otherwise, the picture might look like one of those you see at an art show and think, “Geez, I really hope that guy gets back on his meds.”
Braves are hanging. Baseball, Ray…sucker’s b!tchin’ and that’s a no-doubter.
a643dp
September 26th, 2009
7:59 pm
Anybody notice that Hanley Ramirez has the music from Scareface(opening credits) as his AB music. In miami on top of that LOL
KC
September 26th, 2009
8:04 pm
ESPN talks about Braves surge… http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/index
Vinings Jim
September 26th, 2009
8:04 pm
Just caught up on blog – got to listen on radio while out semi-teaching today – watching game right now. And, important only to me, William and Mary leading Delaware 14-0. In the meantime, cabravesfan tailgating outside the LA Coliseum, drinking homemade beer…
P. W. Hjort
September 26th, 2009
8:07 pm
Without looking, who is the qualified Braves leader in OBP?
Brian the Brain
September 26th, 2009
8:08 pm
Vinings Jim,
“Semi-teaching” is the best new word ever. It reminds me of a lot of some of the teacher’s I had in school.
Vinings Jim
September 26th, 2009
8:10 pm
Brian – actually, working with two guys on ACT/SAT – most of the time they were working, and then we would go over each set of problems…
ncscoots
September 26th, 2009
8:11 pm
Wow. Props giving-and-taking between Dentz and Tomahawkin. Conversation between a wanna-be expert with no expertise, and a wanna-be street-kid with suburban-white-boy cred, LOL.
I think you can take me now, Lord. I’ve seen enough.
KC
September 26th, 2009
8:12 pm
Also, to add to the conversation about the degree to which the Braves have turned it around…
The Braves have been the best OFFENSIVE team in the league since the all-star break.
They are 2nd in post-all-star runs scored, behind the Cubs. BUT Chicago has scored only 3 more runs than ATL, and has played 2 more games.
The Braves are also 3rd in the NL in post-all-star team AVG. (.270), and 3rd in HR’s, just behind Colorado and Phili (who play, it’s safe to say, play in more homer-friendly ballparks).
They also have the best starters ERA in either league, and the 2nd best team ERA in all of baseball, both post-all-star, and for the season as a whole.
Brandon from Warner Robins
September 26th, 2009
8:13 pm
Wow ncscoots
Brian the Brain
September 26th, 2009
8:15 pm
St. Louis streaming at http://www.peorianetwork.com/wbys.asx
White Blood Cells
September 26th, 2009
8:16 pm
Nobody wants to play this team if they make post season. They are the best team in the NL. Period
Paul Lentz
September 26th, 2009
8:20 pm
Steve from OH……….not all losses are 2 game swings. Only certain head to head match-ups.
For instance, let’s say that instead of blowing 2 games against the Rockies that weekend….we blew 2 games against the Padres. We would still be 1 game out in the loss column. While we would have 2 less losses, the Rockies would still have the same record as they do now.
However, with those 2 Rockies games……if we had won both of those games that Bobby Cox mismanaged…….then we would have 2 LESS LOSSES……and the Rockies would have 2 MORE LOSSES…..hence the 4 game swing.
Try again.
KC
September 26th, 2009
8:20 pm
White Blood Cells, I think the Phillies can make a strong argument now for “best team in NL”. Especially since they’ve beaten the Braves at times when no one else could. But the Braves are undoubtedly one of the 2 or 3 best teams in the league at this point. No question about it.
Johninnc
September 26th, 2009
8:21 pm
1st and 2nd 1out for the Cards
Johninnc
September 26th, 2009
8:22 pm
1-0 Cards 1st and 3rd 1out
Paul Lentz
September 26th, 2009
8:23 pm
John………I agree with your 7:35pm posting. Bobby stubbornly trotting out Greg Norton time after time in crucial situations was dreadful.
Someone mentioned earlier about Matt Stairs’ struggles earlier in the season pinch hitting. However he isnt the Phillies only pinch hitting option. Greg Dobbs (their super sub) is a really good pinch hitter in his own right. He’s hurt the Braves a number of times pinch hitting.
Meanwhile, 2-0 Cards. Pressure mounting.
rolltide1
September 26th, 2009
8:24 pm
Enter your comments here cards 2-0 T1
White Blood Cells
September 26th, 2009
8:25 pm
KC,
The Braves are 10-8 against the Phillies. Last Sunday should have been delayed after 2 innings. I underestimated the Phillies middle relief. They are not as good as the Braves.
Johninnc
September 26th, 2009
8:25 pm
Yessss 3-0 Cards
Steve from OH
September 26th, 2009
8:25 pm
I see you completely missed my point. That’s ok; you’ll get it…
rolltide1
September 26th, 2009
8:25 pm
sorry cards 3-0 T1
Hell Yeah
September 26th, 2009
8:26 pm
Hell Yeah, 3-0 Cardinals
A FAN
September 26th, 2009
8:26 pm
3 – 0
Johninnc
September 26th, 2009
8:26 pm
Keep scoreing Cards
Tomahawkin
September 26th, 2009
8:26 pm
Bay Area Steve
A BF is a Man’s Version of getting mad at games and throwing the remote or empty beer cans at the TV when we lose a close game over and over again…
It started after all those 1 run losses last season and it carried over…
Johninnc
September 26th, 2009
8:27 pm
Going to B1 3-0 Cards
Brandon from Warner Robins
September 26th, 2009
8:27 pm
Red Birds!
brent a.
September 26th, 2009
8:27 pm
Great start!
brent a.
September 26th, 2009
8:29 pm
The Braves being 10-8 against Philadelphia is misleading.
3-6 in the final 9 is much more telling.
That said, Lidge is truly a wild card,
Epinephrine
September 26th, 2009
8:29 pm
3-0 Cards, awesome. Get it done Wainwright. And agreed with DOB, for those complaining about the Braves just starting to pick it up-for those paying attention, they have been playing a very good brand of baseball since right before the break.
Hell Yeah
September 26th, 2009
8:32 pm
Teblow just got knocked out. AHAHAH!
rolltide1
September 26th, 2009
8:33 pm
timmy (superman) goes DOWN vs KY
rolltide1
September 26th, 2009
8:34 pm
what a hit on timmy he was OUT
White Blood Cells
September 26th, 2009
8:34 pm
brent a.,
OK, the Phillies are better than the Braves because the first 9 games they played didn’t count.
RHR
September 26th, 2009
8:37 pm
OMG! TIM TEBOW IS DOWN! Moment of silence! Light a candle! Sportscasters across america have walked off set and are currently in the fetal position weeping uncontrollably.
P. W. Hjort
September 26th, 2009
8:38 pm
Paul Lentz,
You can say 2 head to head losses results in a 4 game swing in the Loss Column, but not the standings. You can’t look at a a standings problem from the standpoint of “we should win the next two” and call it status quo, you double yourself that way. If that makes sense.
White Blood Cells
September 26th, 2009
8:39 pm
RHR,
Come on Dude, that is a little harsh, he is a human being.
Brandon from Warner Robins
September 26th, 2009
8:39 pm
RHR nice
RHR
September 26th, 2009
8:39 pm
And shoutout to the Hokies on here, impressive win today. I didn’t watch but I certainly expected it to be a lot closer game than that.
Johninnc
September 26th, 2009
8:40 pm
Going to top 2 3-0 good guys
RHR
September 26th, 2009
8:43 pm
A human being? Well I’ll be damned. I thought he was a deity, or, at the very least, a super hero.
I mean, he’s obviously ok or I wouldn’t have said that if he was seriously injured. Are you a gator fan or do you just not live in the south?