1:37 pm September 26, 2009, by David O'Brien
September 26th, 200911:18 pm
Not sold on Locke at all
Rob from SC, he does still keep the ball in the ballpark and on the ground. I still like him, despite the down year.
yes!! Cardinals Win! 2.5!
Steve from OH
I think next year will be very telling about what kind of a prospect Locke is, Rob. I know a lot of teams inquired on him last offseason (per Buster or one of them ESPN writers) and Pittsburgh really likes him…gotta count for something.
September 26th, 200911:19 pm
Wow, what a rollercoaster of a season, and I am loving every bit of it!!!
Man the Bravos have a real shot now.
ND sucks no matter how this game ends, and they always will…It’s Purdue!
Thank you, Cardinals. I guess I won’t hate you guys tonight. Just this one night! And, maybe tomorrow if you beat the Rockies again.
Wow! LENTZ you beat the band. Have a good night, and NYTOL.
We get 1 out in the loss colmn by start of mondays game and it is going to be very very interesting
September 26th, 200911:20 pm
2 back in the loss column with 8 games to go. Go Braves!
Win or lose. I’m proud of this team.
believe baby believe .Next week the Rockies will watch the Playoff from home.Let’s go Braves woooot
Rob from SC
Pittsburgh really likes him…gotta count for something.
Not much the last 15 years lol
September 26th, 200911:21 pm
Steve from OH………the Pirates arent exactly the best evaluaters when it comes to trading good players for prospects. They basically gave away Aramis Ramarez, Jason Bay, and Xavier Nady for BUMS. What makes you think that what we gave up for McLouth is going to be any different?
They just showed a Boog and Joe call on MLBN (the Pete Orr spike)
Wayne in Utah
September 26th, 200911:22 pm
As a blogger, Paul Dense is a SUCK AZZ BUM.
BTW, as you offended Mitchie-san for “attacking” you, you basically didn’t just offend him, you offended EVERY person who serves or who has ever served in the military. That is why I will never have a baseball conversation with you (though you don’t know diddly about REAL baseball beyond your fantasy points anyway), and will at every opportunity try to push your buttons as hard as I feel like.
You basically SUCK AZZ as a human being. Why don’t you go play some poker or do something else constructive?? (if you even know how to)
To me Morton seems like a headcase. He pitches great one day and gets shelled the next. He obviously has the talent to pitch in the big leagues but whether he can get his head straight is another question. He needs to make an appointment with a good sports psychologist this off season. Glad the Braves got rid of him. He is not reliable.
Everybody turn to espn to see one play to decide the ND game…could care less about outcome but love some football
Man…It’s really amazing that the Braves have even gotten it this close…Might as well finish it now…I’m 200 miles away from ATL but I’ll find a way to get there next weekend if it’s still a race…
The only thing about the Dodgers-Rockies series is that LA may rest their starters for the final games of the season. On the plus side: their bench is pretty good anyway…
Big time throw there by Clausen. Looks like Notre Dame is going to pull this one out.
September 26th, 200911:23 pm
let’s win tomorrow and head home with one goal in mind – the Wild Card.
we’ve got a shot. there’s no denying it now.
September 26th, 200911:24 pm
Getting exciting – good night, all!
ND would go 4-8 if they played in the SEC this year…
Yeah Rob, but there is a new regime in Pittsburgh…and I do think pretty highly of Huntington so far. He’s given the club a direction for the first time in years, IMO.
Hot damn..Cards win, who’d a thunk it 4 days ago ? It’s not over…2 down in the loss column.
Do any other Cox haters (besides the BUM who SUCKS AZZ) think that it is a mere coincidence that Javier Vazquez just happened to have his best career year after moving from such an outstanding player motivator in Ozzie the Mouth to such a dolt as Bobby Cox????
Jurrjens4NLCY - Fight Like A Perpetual Moving, Counting, Believing Brave
September 26th, 200911:25 pm
Just a small town team…
Proving they are very mean…
Paul – I dont know if Morton will be good or not. I am just telling you what someone told me that would have a really ninformed opinion on it. Who knows what will happen with young pitchers. This I know. The Braves did not want to give up Morton. The Bucs liked him enough to trade an all star CF out of the blue when he was made available.
I not going to mention the “I know a guy” thing again because I see this person every know again as an aquantance but I promise that there is not a better person to have an opinion on this one. You might be wrong on this one.
They basically gave away Aramis Ramarez, Jason Bay, and Xavier Nady for BUMS. What makes you think that what we gave up for McLouth is going to be any different?
Because who says all trades are the same? Jon Daniels sure didn’t have a great track record before trading away Tex. I think he did pretty well there…..
September 26th, 200911:26 pm
AndyC………..the Braves simply had no room for Morton on this team.
If Jo Jo Reyes and Jorge Campillo can come back next Spring and show that they are capable of pitching well……the bullpen could have some depth in 2010. Frank Wren will have his hands on what to do in the winter concerning the bullpen.
Joe Torre will give some of his players a rest during that last series with the Rockies, but he will definitely send out a competitive team as Joe understands the consequences of not doing so.
September 26th, 200911:27 pm
Wayne I used to think that it was mainly Leo back in the day honestly but it definitely seems like Javy does better with Cox who is the complete opposite from Ozzie
It’s “official,” we’re charging up the WC standings!
September 26th, 200911:28 pm
Hey SUCK AZZ blogger, don’t you realize that Cos is one of the other regulars just pushing your happy buttons! They are getting a big laugh out of you eating that sheet up!
Such a dip stick!!
P. W. Hjort
I can’t speak for the Aramis Ramirez trade because that was a different GM, but I like the return the Pirates got in the Jason Bay trade. I’m not high on the return from the Nady trade, though. And Locke+Morton+Gorkys isn’t a couple of bums. Locke has some really big upside, as do Gorkys and Morton. Maybe they don’t pan out, but if they do, Pittsburgh could have 3 super-stars.
and I do think pretty highly of Huntington so far.
He could give Mark Shapiro some pointers…
(muttering) Damn Cliff Lee trade…
September 26th, 200911:30 pm
While I would not minimize Leo’s contribution, I can’t help but think that the players want to do their best for a manager who shows ultimate confidence in their ability to do so.
Phillies collapse. It’s happened before!
The Bird and Indian (Reggie)
September 26th, 200911:31 pm
I love how ESPN does everything they can to not mention the Braves. They highlighted playoff pushes and we weren’t in the clip. Unbelievable. I used to not believe the whole topic but I do now.
Philly loss tonight also narrows that NL East lead to five games (still a commanding lead with only eight left for Braves) and leaves the Braves with the best record in the league since June 28 at 50-30 (Phillies are 51-31, slightly lower winning percentage, not that it matters)
Locke has some really big upside, as do Gorkys and Morton. Maybe they don’t pan out, but if they do, Pittsburgh could have 3 super-stars.
Mmmhmm. Lots of upside and way too early to write all three of them off.
Morton has shown plenty of potential this year. He had one start where he gave up 10 runs in one inning. The Bucs left him out there and he got massacred. If you take away that start he has an era of 4.00 with 10 out of 15 starts with 3 or less runs given up.
He is still only 25.
September 26th, 200911:32 pm
Efrim………….dude, the Tex trade isnt so one sided. The Braves still have Adam LaRoche to show for that trade (along with the pitcher in Triple A who isnt showing very much).
The Braves got 1 year of service from Tex……1 year from Kotchman……and 1/2 a year from LaRoche…….along with 1/2 season from Ron Mahay (the lefty specialist).
It remains to be seen how the prospects that the Braves gave up in the Tex trade will pan out long term. I’d rather have Escobar, Hanson and Heyward over any of those guys we gave up.
Braves 2.5 back!!!
September 26th, 200911:33 pm
Here’s the new “odds” on the Braves winning the Wildcard. It’s going up!
Wayne agreed but when you had both Leo and Bobby there it was hard to differ between which coach is helping the pitchers. Dont forget that LA is fighting for home field as well now
I still can’t believe they got Cliff Lee without having to give up Happ, Drabek, Brown or Taylor. They could conceivably still trade for Halladay this offseason. But some on here said that the trade made sense for Cleveland. I guess it did, if the sole purpose was to dump salary. They sure did that.
the real Andy
great day! braves win, dogs pull it out, rockies fall. just gotta stay loose and keep winning
September 26th, 200911:34 pm
Ah, WAYNE, you’ve seen through all my masks – DON JUAN DeMARKO
as always, big game tomorrow. Hopefully there is not too much celebrating going on at Ruth’s Chris or Morton’s. Lot of work to do with only 1 week left. No time for error.
The Braves have been in their playoffs for about 2 weeks now. Unfortunately these are not the best of 7. Whoever gets in, Braves or Rockies, have to really guard against a let down once they get in the playoffs.
September 26th, 200911:35 pm
This could get really fun this week. If the Bravers could be within one by next weekend with the Nat coming in I am going to go both Sat and Sun.
September 26th, 200911:36 pm
Efrim–I don’t think it made a whole lot of sense for Cleveland, but I’ve heard that Shapiro was more or less ordered to trade Lee at the deadline, so that was probably the best deal he could get. In either case, great trade for Philly.
Cmon Braves, win tomorrow, CR loses, and we’re 1.5 back!!
September 26th, 200911:37 pm
Do you all realize that the Braves could go 7-1 the rest of the way and if the Rockies go 4-3, they’d be tied? Or if the Rockies go 3-4 and Braves go 7-1, Braves are in the freakin’ playoffs? Wow. From 8-1/2 games behind to 2-1/2 back, in barely two weeks.
If Braves go 6-2, Rockies would need to win only three of their remaining seven games to tie, and a 4-3 record in their remaining seven would keep them ahead of Braves. So it’s still the Rockies’ berth to lose.
But, man, they sure looking capable of losing it, or the Braves taking it, however you want to view it….
Phillies aren’t the Mets though. With a 5 game lead we are taking 8-0 versus 3-5. 6 -2 versus 1-7. Highly improbable to beat the Phillies, even without a bullpen.
Lowe needs to do good tomorrow…
Efrim – I agree. You never know with prospects but Shapiro may not have gotten a productive major leaguer for Lee. I think he did better in the Martinez trade.
Brandon from Warner Robins
September 26th, 200911:38 pm
Lentz I am pretty sure Feliz and his .68 WHIP is going to make a pretty good closer one day that I would love to have
Lowe needs to be the big game pitcher tomorrow. He cannot expect 11 runs of support tomorrow.
September 26th, 200911:39 pm
I think the Rockies are beginning to hear the Jaws theme song.
A’s fight back down 7 to tie the game…
As much as I would love to see the Phillies fall, the Rockies are the only team in our sights right now.
September 26th, 200911:40 pm
dude, the Tex trade isnt so one sided. The Braves still have Adam LaRoche to show for that trade (along with the pitcher in Triple A who isnt showing very much).
Missed the point completely.
It remains to be seen how the prospects that the Braves gave up in the Tex trade will pan out long term.
But those trades the Pirates made for their players are such bums…..
do we give JS credit for the Tex trade due to the hitting of LaRoche here this year? I did not think so
September 26th, 200911:41 pm
WillinVa–Andrus has been an average regular overall (mostly by defense) as well. And he’s only 21. He’ll be an above-average regular in time as well.
While Smoltz isnt the best of friends with Frank Wren, he still is good friends with Chipper Jones, Tim Hudson, and Adam LaRoche and of course, Bobby Cox. John Smoltz laying an egg tomorrow against the Rockies would not set well with his friends.
Not that Smoltz “needs motivation”. I’m just countering the charge that Smoltz isnt going to do well tomorrow, just to stick it to Frank Wren.
Tomorrow is another opportunity to put some more pressure on the Rockies by putting up some crooked numbers against the Nationals early. It’s got to be wearing on the Rockies knowing that they arent getting any help from the Braves opponents.
Also, I have faith that Derek Lowe will show why he is a “playoff pitcher” by going out and handling the Nationals tomorrow.
Feliz and Andrus were the big pieces in the Tex trade that we will miss
September 26th, 200911:42 pm
I guess it did, if the sole purpose was to dump salary.
Well, I just hope they extend the same courtesy to us one day.
September 26th, 200911:43 pm
According to probables, Kyle Lohse goes for the Cards tomorrow against Dela Rosa.
Steve very true and I love Andrus but I would rather have Esco anyday and honestly moving Andrus or Esco to another position would be wasting their terrific defense
September 26th, 200911:44 pm
Will–oh yeah, gimme Escobar for sure. Just pointing out that it’s not like we gave up chopped liver for Tex…
Why are we talkin about Smoltz?
Lets hope none of the players are drinking and eating steak with Bobby. We have to win tomorrow and the Cards are celebrating the title tonight. Ican see the Cards falling flat tomorrow, lets hope our boys don’t duplicate
September 26th, 200911:45 pm
You never know with prospects but Shapiro may not have gotten a productive major leaguer for Lee.
And it just burns my bones!
I thought that Pineiro was suppose to go tomorrow
September 26th, 200911:46 pm
Steve from OH, it had to have been that. It’ll make me sleep better thinking that, at least.
I remember when the Vazquez trade went down in December……many on here were all up in arms over the Braves giving up Tyler Flowers (the kid who hit all those long homers in the Arizona Fall League).
Tomorrow is Lohse for the Cards.
September 26th, 200911:47 pm
From a Rockies blog:
Would you all honestly rather trade positions with the Braves?
Yes. They have the umpires on their side, we have them working against us.
Paul Lentz is an outstanding individual with the highest caliber knowledge on baseball that you could find anywhere. His comments are genuinely intriguing and they are spot on almost 100% of the time. Calling him names is just slinging mud on your own face, if you can we would appreciate if you could engage in healthy arguments with him.
September 26th, 200911:48 pm
Yeah, can we get a Horacio Ramirez for Rafael Soriano type trade this winter? Or Jair Jurrjens and Gorkys Hernandez for Edgar Renteria? Some type of steal would be awesome.
September 26th, 200911:49 pm
Or Jair Jurrjens and Gorkys Hernandez for Edgar Renteria?
Oooh, that was a good one…
I guess Wayne in Utah gets the boot next for his vulgar comments. Bye bye Utah ( where the f is that place? )
many on here were all up in arms over the Braves giving up Tyler Flowers
No matter how well Javy does, there will always be people moaning the loss of our minor leaguers. I’m one of the biggest prospect huggers around, but if it helps the big club at the time without really hurting our chances in the future, I’m all for it.
I still don’t regret the Teixeira trade.
September 26th, 200911:50 pm
re: Rockies blog – the umps are on OUR side ?
Lentz is a good fan …lets all group together and root for our team to make this comeback and win the World Series…enough of the Bobby bashing he is our skipper and will be for another year
yea Lentz pretty sure every single person was complaining except you and now you look like a genius (please notice the sarcasm)
September 26th, 200911:51 pm
“Aside from losing two of three to the Phillies, the Braves have been the hottest team in baseball over the last couple of weeks. It would be a pretty cruel twist of irony to see the Rockies lose the wild card to another team that got really hot over the last few weeks of the season.”
That made me laugh
I still don’t regret the Teixeira trade
Me neither. I guess my only beef is that we maybe could’ve gotten more for them had we either split ‘em up or waited until the offseason and looked elsewhere, but at the time it made sense.
His comments are genuinely intriguing and they are spot on almost 100% of the time
Actually, he’s only spot on 99% of the time.
September 26th, 200911:52 pm
Even if Flowers becomes the next Joe Mauer I like the Javy trade he has been awesome
Some type of steal would be awesome.
I bet that very type of trade will happen for the Braves…at least I hope it will.
Jurrjens and Hernandez for Renteria may end up being more lopsided than Anderson for Bagwell or Alexander for Smoltz. Atleast Anderson and Alexander got their teams into the post season that year.
If there ever were a AJC blog hall of fame , Paul Lentz deserves to be on it first ballot. No kidding , the guy knows what he’s talking about. Thanks for being on here Mr Lentz, we appreciate your time and comments.
September 26th, 200911:54 pm
Even if Flowers becomes the next [Brian McCann] I like the Javy trade he has been awesome
September 26th, 200911:56 pm
I guess my only beef is that we maybe could’ve gotten more for them
Yeah, I can’t say I was ever really thrilled about Kotchman. But I’m not sure how much more we could’ve gotten for Tex. We weren’t going to trade him before the season, especially when so many “experts” picked us to win the World Series.
September 26th, 200911:57 pm
Just saw a replay on MLBN from the Mets v. Marlins game. Frenchy hits a single through the left side. David “Golden Child” Wright runs from second to home. However, about 20 feet from the plate, Wright jogs home. Frenchy is thrown out at second before Wright crosses the plate. Run doesn’t count.
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