2:22 pm September 25, 2009, by David O'Brien
September 25th, 20093:53 pm
In which seasons during their run were the Braves the best “secret sauce” team in the majors?
1st in 1991, 1996 they were 3rd and behind the Yankees, 1st in 1997,1st in 1998, 2002 they were 3rd, and in 2004 they were 3rd.
Sounds like no matter what choice you make, fastasballs, you’re going to leave with wet shoes. I thought of going to B’burg tomorrow, but will instead watch from the crib.
we have JJ for 4 more years after this season.
Shaun, i’m not trying to put down the importance of OBP or getting on base and working counts. The point i’m making is that if it was Gregor Blanco you would be very happy that he is working the count and just getting on base. Why, because Blanco isn’t seen as a run producer, he is seen as someone who’s best asset is to get on base and let someone like a Chipper Jones or Greg Norton drive him in. We did not bring Greg Norton in to work counts and get on base by walking which is the primary reason why his OBP is that high. We brought him in to drive in runs, if he walks sometimes in the process, well thats part of the game.
September 25th, 20093:54 pm
DAP, I know that’s Norton’s 2nd Half OBP. I’m not sure where he got that number for Prado. Could be 2nd Half, also.
September 25th, 20093:55 pm
My point exactly….Wohlers in ‘96, then he forgot how to throw strikes and was done….Rocker in ‘99 was a meltdown in need of anger management and soon after he was gone too. You can argue that if Cox had a Billy Wagner or a Trevor Hoffman in their prime years, at least one or two of those seasons may have turned out differently…..I’m just sayin…… Maybe it was Leo Mazzone who had problems with Devine, Spooneybarger, Marquis, etc….. I have yet to hear of any conflicts between Roger McDowell and any of the pitchers.
N8 (is it 2011 yet?)
brent a., excellent post at 3:41.
Here’s the thing. They make the playoffs with this lat push? I’m cool with the old man stickin’ around one more year. Though one could argue that had he not managed so poorly early in the year, they wouldn’t have needed to make this push so late.
In other words, they might be making the playoffs despite him being the manager this year, not because of it.
Coach hangs around on MB’s blog these days.
One of Hudson or Vazquez has to go (unless Wren can unload Lowe).
Why can’t Kawakami go? 6.6 million next year. Hudson at 12 million. Vazquez at 11.5. Are we really going to cave on a 6 million dollar difference? I know Vazquez would net a nice package of prospects or an above average corner OF bat(although that last one I am not certain about), and Hudson would give us an extra 12 million to play with. But why not try to have the best rotation possible? I think Wren’s first option should be to deal away Kenshin. I think he has more value than many think.
September 25th, 20093:56 pm
DOB, maybe you’ve commented on this and I’ve missed it, but with Church not playing regularily even against right handers, are we seeing indication that he’s not in the Braves’ plans for next season?
I’m thrilled with the Braves season. I sure didn’t think they’d be sniffing the playoffs, but happy they are. We got some important questions answered and moved on. Can’t say enough about the starting pitching and how good Yunel is.
I’m not so sure about that “sweet” part of Adam’s swing. NO arguing with the results since he’s been here (not to mention his fielding). In fact, with a tip of the cap to Hank, it should be called the “Kaw-Liga” Stance. I admit I kinda rolled my eyes when they brought him back, but he’s a big reason they’re as close as they are.
Great tune. Maybe because LC ain’t real long on melody, or maybe because his poetry background, but his song words “read” well.
P. W. Hjort
September 25th, 20093:57 pm
LaRoche is 0-for-6 with 2 strikeouts in his career against Lannan.
Nova Scotia Steve - Don't Stop Believin'
ok line-up is posted…gettin nervous
Roman Gal, 3:52 pm … “He’s pitched a lot of innings already, so do you keep running him out there since he’s certainly one of your best pitchers, or do you try to limit his innings.”
The emotional part of me would like to see him continue dominating for the rest of the season, into the playoffs.
The rational part of me says to use your five other starting pitchers to get you to the playoffs and let Hanson dominate in 2010.
September 25th, 20093:58 pm
But we have JJ until 2013. Isn’t it a little early to be worrying about how much he’s going to command as a free agent? Heck, the Braves could possibly have new owners by then if the economy turns around and their value goes up. I say keep him until he becomes a free agent. If he leaves, he leaves. Hopefully we will have gotten a great deal of wins and innings out of him in the mean time.
September 25th, 20093:59 pm
FEAR, 3:51 pm … “someone wanna explain why laroche is batting 8th?”
Bobby wants to give Javy maximum opportunities to build on his sacrifice bunt total.
Ok cool, good to know we got him for 4 more years. He is already a top of rotation guy.
September 25th, 20094:02 pm
I was wondering how long it was going to take someone to say that if we make the playoffs it will be despite Cox. I suppose too that if we win the World Series it will be because they overcame his bad managing. The guy just can’t win.
September 25th, 20094:03 pm
Awesome tidbit, Jon Heyman:
“Holliday, the top free agent this winter (just ahead of Jason Bay and John Lackey) who’s hitting .356 since coming to St. Louis, is thought to be interested in a deal comparable to the $180 million, eight-year contract signed by Mark Teixeira last winter.”
You know what, some would say I’m thought to be interested in an 8-year, $180 million deal too. That doesn’t make it any more likely that I’ll get it. And it doesn’t make it any more likely that Holliday will get it, either. Seriously, zero chance Holliday gets that kind of a contract.
September 25th, 20094:06 pm
i am sure we could win the next 2 world series and people on here would complain about the manager and whoever are the 24th and 25th players on the roster.
AJ, I guess my point was that in 96 and 99, they had all the pieces to the puzzle, including a dominant closer (a position you’re using the lack of as an excuse for Bobby), and yet they failed to seal the deal.
I’m not dumb enough to blame it all on Cox. But he either it can’t go both ways. If he’s responsible for the greatness of the 90’s regular seasons and 14 year division title run, then he’s responsible for the playoff failures, right?
IMO, he should get the same “credit” across the board. Not just given credit for the winning seasons, and then place blame on the players for post-season failure.
In the 90’s and even early 2000’s, one could argue that the Braves had the best 25 man roster in baseball, year in year out. I think, even better than the Yankees (call me biased). Which is evident in the regular season dominance. You can’t do what they did without great players, great luck in terms of health, and great managing/coaching.
But there is no denying that as a collective group, Cox and his players failed miserably in the post season when considering how many chances they had. Crap shoot? Maybe. But 14 “tries” is 14 tries. To walk away with the big prize only once is underachieving. No two ways around it.
The Marlins got two chances. They have two titles. 2 or 3 out of 14 isn’t asking for too much, is it?
Brave in the District
September 25th, 20094:07 pm
Nationals Park is great for one, big, reason: Ben’s Chili Bowl. I only moved to DC recently, but the moment http://www.megapremium.mudl-crew.com/I found out they had Ben’s in the park I was sold.
The atmosphere is pretty stagnant, especially with their record. It just needs a better product to put out there, to make the place feel more energetic.
How’s everyone feelin about this whole situation????
September 25th, 20094:08 pm
We got bozo’d in the 1999 World Series…The Yankees were a far better team then Atlanta.
It would be really cool if the Rockies lose their next three games and the Braves sweep the Nats. Leyland’s right, BobbyCox is one of the all time best!
Wayne in Utah
All the talk about who gets traded is interesting. I have always though that if you wanted a REAL quality bat; young, powerful and good defensively, you might have to entertain giving up Jurrjens to get that hitter. I got crucified for it, as I remember…..
Paul Dense is still on the Bobby does nothing kick. I guess he had absolutely nothing to do with Javier Vazquez coming into Atlanta and pitching up to his potential. How many times have pitchers done that? Jared Wright. John Burkett. Those are the first two to come to mind. Even Russ Ortiz pitched well here.
But heck no, it couldn’t have been anything that Bobby does that makes these players perform up to their potential, huh. Remember Francoeur? I guess that proves me wrong.
And for brent and N8, I disagree that he has slipped in the past few years. His team talent is what has slipped.
I trust Jim Leyland (much adorned on this blog) and his opinion over you keyboard jockeys anyday.
Tell it like it is: I was the big red-neck out front on the tea parties, with my “Obama is a Socialist” sign waving! Got good press for it. Might get a gig on the Hannity or Beck show. Who knows?
But thanks for noticing…….a-hole.
September 25th, 20094:09 pm
I don’t see Holiday getting more than 15 mill per 6 year type deal…that being said Huddy +Loaf=Holliday….if he gets 18 mill per than throw in KJ’s 3 mill and we are good…..sign either Gonzo or Soriano…I think Sori is better but Gonzo will be cheaper, Medlen can take the 5 spot until Minor is ready
Bay Area Steve
Nice link. How’d you find that, or did you do it?
DOB…I’m sure you’ve probably talked about this already, but i was shocked to see that the Braves were dead last in stolen bases with 53. Perhaps I shouldn’t have been shocked with some of the plodders on this team, but when you consider the Braves have only hit 143 HR this year, you really have to tip your hat to the pitching staff. If the Braves get a little more power and speed next year and avoid pitching injuries, look out next year!
September 25th, 20094:13 pm
What happened to all the Brooks Conrad is God sentiment? Brooks will lead us to the promised land. Brooks is exciting and young, and enthusiastic. What kind of shape would the world be in today if not for Brook?
(btw, I am sure Brooks Conrad is a great person, nothing personal intended, just trying to get the goat of a few of the blog idiots)
Wayne In Utah
I agree about Jurrjens man, we could get a awesome return for him. A above average young hitter with power, and some prospects , or a really great player.
Brew Crew needs pitching bad, JJ for Fielder?? I think Fielder will better than Roachy over a full season, or JJ and Schafer for Braun or somthing , but i dont think anyone can prie Braun from them lol
White Blood Cells
September 25th, 20094:14 pm
Bay Area Steve,
Did you read Rosenthal’s article yesterday regarding LaRussa and Bochey?
September 25th, 20094:16 pm
“i am sure we could win the next 2 world series and people on here would complain about the manager and whoever are the 24th and 25th players on the roster.”
Well your first mistake is associating the Braves and winning two titles. If it didn’t happen in the 90’s, don’t hold your breath now.
But seriously, really? You think griping about a team playing .500 ball over the last 4 years (despite the GREAT play as of late), or being disappointed in winning only one title in 14 tries.
But to flip it around on you. I’m sure if the Braves started the season 10-35, somebody would state “it’s still early, don’t worry, they’ll turn it on any time now”.
There is just as much blind faith and unfounded optimism as there is over the top negativity. Based on the results the past few years, which do you think is justified.
Even now. I’m pumped that there is meaningful Braves baseball to follow this late in the year. But I’m not gonna lie. If the Braves fall 2 or 3 games short, it’s just gonna make me more upset as a fan, knowing that all along the team WAS good enough to hang with the big boys, but choked it off at various moments of the season.
Now, by “upset as a fan”, that doesn’t mean I’m burning my jerseys, t-shirts, baseball cards, jacket and various crap I’ve collected on the way. I get pizzed off watching a loss. I get excited watching a victory or great individual performance. I come on the blog. Vent it. Discuss it. Argue with some, agree with others and move along my way. Isn’t that the very purpose of this blog?
Some people go home and beat their wives. Some gripe on a blog. You tell me which is worse.
September 25th, 20094:18 pm
people, don’t get your hopes up….DOB should be ashamed of himself getting folks to start talking playoffs…i’m not saying, i’m just saying….
are the cardiac kids back???
and who it their right mind would trade JJ?? are you serious?? i’m taking that comment as a very big joke…and it’s not even 5 o’clock yet…
September 25th, 20094:19 pm
I really don’t think it will happen, but just talking about possibilities. I would not deal JJ for Fielder though. Big guys scare me away.
I think it is interesting that while there was some talk last winter about McLouth being a possible trade target, I don’t think this past June that anybody saw that trade coming. Same with the Renteria deal that brought us Jurrjens and GH a few years back.
FW will end up pulling one out of the hat, and probably will surprise us all.
Joe D. loves Marilyn
September 25th, 20094:20 pm
I have but one thing to say…
we do have a manager who has a history with your last sentence. can’t believe that is not brought up on here??
Wayne, here’s the funny thing. Brooks has 0 hits in his last 28 “days” (16 AB’s). Norton has 1 more than him. NEITHER is the answer.
But I was with the bloggers when Brooks was hot at the plate. Made zero sense to send him down and keep Norton at the time. Now, had Brooks cooled off, and the Braves made the playoffs, and Bobby would want a “veteran” off the bench on the post-seaosn roster. Fine.
But when Brooks was sent back down, it was brain-fart 101 on Bobby and Wren’s behalf.
Brandon from Warner Robins
September 25th, 20094:22 pm
Bay Area Steve – someone sent me the link this morning,
kstan in dc
CRIME SHAME IF THE BRAVES DON’T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS
September 25th, 20094:24 pm
Let’s hope the phenom Jason Heyward is ready next season to take over in right. If not, this may be the spot for a 1 or 2 year righty bat with power and RBI production. Matt Diaz got hot and Church couldn’t get back in the lineup except for injury to Nate McClouth. Garret Anderson most likely headed to American League next year. Wouldn’t it be nice if we could add a .300 bat with base stealing speed in left? How about Carl Crawford? Yes, we need a righty power bat, but unless you can put him at 1st base, we are better off signing Adam LaRoche again while waiting for Freddie Freeman. I heard earlier today the Derek Lee may be part of the Cubs dismantling…gotta keep JJ and Vasquez to go along with Hanson. Hope they can sign Hudson to a reduced number, and maybe Lowe will be more of the “ace” we brought him here to be. KK as long relief seems to be working out so far, and he would be insurance if we have an injury to the rotation.
Don’t we kind of need Jurrjens? He is young. Vazquez will turn 34 next year. Hudson will turn 35. Lowe will turn 37 and Kawakami will turn 35. That’s not exactly a young staff and there really isn’t a prospect in the higher levels of our system who can step in our rotation in 2011 or 2012. I mean, you never know, but that’s not something you want to bet the farm on. I understand everyone’s feeling that we need another hitter, but let’s explore some other routes. Ones that don’t involve dealing an above average starter at 23 years of age that won’t be a free agent until 2013. I get that his value is high, and he would be a great trade chip, but it would hurt 2011 and beyond. I want to “go for it” next year too. But trading Jair isn’t the way.
September 25th, 20094:25 pm
(shakes his head)
It’s a crime shame that your and idiot.
September 25th, 20094:26 pm
I just happened to see this, yesterday. (when baseball was such an easy game to play) Bill James on batting order…
There is no real evidence that it matters. What matters is having good hitters. Who hits second and who hits sixth. . .there is little evidence that it makes any difference.
I’ve been listening to Journey’s ‘Don’t Stop Believing’ for more than 24 hours straight.
I need some God damn Atlanta Braves baseball immediately.
I’m ready to crack.
September 25th, 20094:27 pm
That. ladies and gentlemen, is a big league lineup. First time in a while that everyone is in, and seemingly healthy. With C-Carp and Wainwright going for the Cards, Braves really have a chance to be at 1 1/2 in a few days, with 8 to go. That’s a good feeling. Go Braves!
I sure hope you never do anything stupid, while intoxicated or not, such that some around you never quit mentioning it or alluding to it.
I don’t think we are going to win it this year, but I sure as hell am not going to say it was on Bobby Cox. Everyone talks about his sticking with the “big 3″ for so long this year. Don’t you folks realize that’s what he does.
Besides, where were his obvious choices. We dispatched Schafer when McLouth came along. Loaf really was as bad as Frenchy up until the trade to the Mets. Diaz didn’t heat up until later.
And Prado was not 100%, and then Infante went down. KJ actually had 1 good month out of 3 in between.
Yeah, it is all Bobby’s fault. I guess he should have asked those players to do better, huh?
September 25th, 20094:28 pm
someone wanna explain why laroche is batting 8th? Nice one cox.
To provide protection for the hottest hitter on the Braves -
September 25th, 20094:29 pm
“What happened to all the Brooks Conrad is God sentiment? Brooks will lead us to the promised land. Brooks is exciting and young, and enthusiastic. What kind of shape would the world be in today if not for Brook?
(btw, I am sure Brooks Conrad is a great person, nothing personal intended, just trying to get the goat of a few of the blog idiots)”
Man, just check out our record since Conrad’s recall. The guy has an aura, I tell ya!
Here’s the thing that does matter about batting order:
Your 8th hitter gets fewer at bats than your 1st, 2nd, 3rd hitter, etc.
If your 8th hitter is a lot better than one of your earlier hitters, then it behooves you to bat him earlier so he will get more at bats.
Good end of the season run, but it is a little to late. The Braves will be thinking about that game in Philly when we had a large lead and lost. Or the Tommy Hanson game where we had the lead and Booby Cox pulled Hanson………………………..and many others. Colorado……………I do not believe is going to blow this lead.
September 25th, 20094:30 pm
Okay, okay. Irregardless of how I felt about that poor fellow’s grammer, I should of been more excepting of a fellow blogger. It’s a crime shame that I called him and idiot.
JJ for Fielder??
They would definitely listen, but it wouldn’t be straight up…
September 25th, 20094:31 pm
It’ll be a “crime shame” if we don’t sweep them Nats, huh!
Who hits second and who hits sixth. . .there is little evidence that it makes any difference.
And that’s probably true. But, since it doesn’t, then why not build your lineup as if it does, LOL? If slots don’t make any difference, how can it hurt to arrange your order as if it does? It can’t.
Which is why ML clubs keep setting batting orders the same way they have for decades. Well, that, and the fact that very few teams have enough “good hitters” to make lineup slots truly irrelevant.
September 25th, 20094:32 pm
Some people go home and beat their wives. Some gripe on a blog. You tell me which is worse. N8
C’mon. You’re a better blogger than that. There are many other options. You could go on hunger strike until the Braves win a World Series. You could go home and drink yourself to sleep. You could go to the far east in search of a good luck charm that will finally put the Braves over the top. There are a million things you could decide to do…You chose to gripe on a blog. I think that is a totally normal way of dealing with it, but it isn’t necessary to throw up such a dramatic choice.
Brooks should be called upon in situations we you need to hit it hard, far…
He always does that…
But NOT ones where you NEED a hit…
September 25th, 20094:34 pm
It’s a crime shame that I called him and idiot.
You ask me, you were holding back, LOL. We need better smack thrown around on the blog.
How about this batting order? Chipper, Diaz, LaRoche, Escobar, McCann, Prado, McLouth, Vazquez and then Loaf??? Best hitters first…
September 25th, 20094:35 pm
at least he doesn’t like the DH. The DH is a CRIME SHAME.
And, for those using CRIME SHAME, I request that you use it in its original form: ALL CAPS.
White Blood Cells,
no I didn’t, although I saw a post here mentioning the rumor. I don’t really like what I know about LaRussa, so I hope he doesn’t come here; it’ll just be more crap I have to see about his “greatness.”
And, I don’t even want to use quotation marks anymore. Dude has ruined punctuation for me.
That last sentence was directed directly at who you think it was. When it is brought up, people squash it down and are actually offended that somebody would bring it up.
I don’t think it defines who Bobby is. But he did it. If it was the last time it happened (not the last time it was reported), good for him. He apologized, moved on and bettered himself. Everybody deserves that.
But he did it. And people praise the man like he’s perfect, and get mad at fanatics throwing a “typing tantrum” on a blog designed for venting and discussion. Irony at it’s finest.
DOB, admit it. When the Braves are about to blow a game and get all the road warriors fired up for some post-loss blogging, Carroll and yourself get a little excited knowing the blog is gonna light up off the charts, ringing up hit after hit.
I know that you’ve hardly ever asked anybody to leave or not come back, though you often take jabs at the negative nellies. But you have to admit that you’ve got a pot of gold here with the ole’ blog, considering the ups and downs of this team in recent years.
I personally love it when their is bickering on here. Better reading and conversation. When it’s ALL negative, it’s too much for even me to handle.
It’s like our own little fantasy league. We all make statements that we believe to be true, and while most here wish the Braves success, there is a part of all of us that just hopes our predictions of individuals or the team become true so we look more intelligent than the next idiot we were/are arguing with.
To me, it’s all good. My favorite time of the year to blog is coming up. LOVE the off-season with all the speculation, and what not. The season is just too intense.
But admit it. Running this blog wouldn’t have been as much fun or as dramatic in the 90’s when this team won 2 out of 3 for a decade. Maybe in the post-season.
This blog is like a great sports talk radio program that runs 24 hours a day, with the host never leaving the studio. I listen to a LOT of talk radio working at my computer all day. I yell at the callers that I disagree with, and don’t at the ones I agree with (drives my wife NUTS), but would never call in. Don’t have the time to sit on hold, and wouldn’t appreciate getting interrupted by an obnoxious host.
This is the best of both worlds. You get to hear/read EVERYBODY’s opinion that wants to chime in. Free speech at it’s best. Not to mention, ultimately whether we agree with each other or not, we’re all Braves fans. We all start the season with the same dreams.
This blog is still the first thing I check in the morning. World news? President Obama’s health care plan? I couldn’t care less. I wanna know what the hell Paul Lentz said, and who ripped on him.
Coolest blog in sports. The Chiefs message boards and blogs I frequent don’t even come close.
September 25th, 20094:37 pm
Enter your comments here
It’s a “crime shame” that the game is not one of those 4:30 pm starts. We could log off the blog and listen or watch the game early!
September 25th, 20094:38 pm
CRIME SHAME, you are so hard on us about caps,BAS.
I don’t type that way, BAS. Besides, I’d rather people think I’m saying “crime shame” like I mean it. I have to create the illusion of sincerity. That’s kind of a key to my blog gimmick.
What I was really asking is your opinion of Bochey. I think he is a very good Manager and would think a good choice for Atlanta in 2011. Of course this oversimplifies and is complete fandom.
September 25th, 20094:41 pm
Crime shame waste of blogging space.
On my fantasy softball team, due to the fact we have an extra DH, I have Adam LaRoche bating 11th. How do you like them apples? (fav line from “Good Will Hunting”)
Why is it that Cox gets killed on here when they lose, but never gets much credit when they win??
goin to HOCO Northside ballgame tonight so i’m going to miss the game. Hate missing games like these. Hopefully the Bravo’s can come out fired up and sweep the Nats this weekend.
September 25th, 20094:43 pm
Like I said N8, I hope you never screw up that bad and people around you find out.
Pretty low blow, my friend. But then again, you relish the thought of being the pecker head sometimes, don’t you?
I don’t really like what I know about LaRussa, so I hope he doesn’t come here; it’ll just be more crap I have to see about his “greatness.”
And, I don’t even want to use quotation marks anymore. Dude has ruined punctuation for me.
HaHa! This is top notch BAS posting right here. Love it.
Brandon from WR
Just drove by there. Some serious grilling going on in front of Rumble.
I’m just bs’n about the caps, folks.
I just think it adds that much more that he capitalized it. Just like with his use of MORON. I mean, if you go all caps, you mean what you said; you thought about it, you found you a shift key…
You can’t say later it was accidental, and you meant it some other way. I guess I’m tyin’ to say, it was awesome; I’m gettin’ a little teary eyed just remembering it.
September 25th, 20094:44 pm
Let’s Go Braves! Sweep the Nats!
Dude has ruined punctuation for me.
And for others, too. Shoot, even capitalization feels a little slimy, anymore.
A sadness falls over erudite bloggers and strict grammarians everywhere, at the mere mention of his Dentz-ness; while sadness gives way to hurling, at the reading of his posts, LOL.
September 25th, 20094:45 pm
i also dont think that is who Bobby is but he did do it and even once is too many.
also, i agree that this blog is great whether we win or lose. i get frustrated whent he blog is extremly negative but when the blog is flowing and griping back in forth it is wonderful
Jurrjens for Fielder and Brett Lawrie?
Flushed the Mets last week. Nuke the Nats this weekend.
Can we not kill CRIME SHAME so soon?
September 25th, 20094:46 pm
HoCo Joe yeah a lot more tailgatin this year than when i was @ HoCo. I’m feelin an upset tonight. Bears take down the Eagles!
September 25th, 20094:47 pm
whi is Brett Lawrie? Fielder is a free agent after next year and no way we trade JJ for a 1 year rental. if you are talking King Albert than we can talk!!!
Frank Robinson (Rockmart)
Sounds like Laroche is due!
September 25th, 20094:48 pm
I’d take JJ for fielder, unless we lock JJ up through his arbitration years…
By the by,
Prince fielder hits leftys better than McCann… hits.
September 25th, 20094:49 pm
I actually don’t follow the Giants much; I do keep an eye on the A’s. I like what I know about Bochy, and remember being suprised when he was run out of San Diego. Seems like they’d made the playoffs, or he was on some kind of successful run…
I think managers have mimimal impact. Growing up with the Braves and Cox, I’ll always lean to that players-manager style, and away from the Guillens of the league. Anywho, Bochy seems as good as any. My only complaint is when he walks to the mound, he looks like his lower-half’s just been run over by an Abrams tank. He’s gotta be the only manager that can make Bobby’s walk look spry.
September 25th, 20094:50 pm
Wait fielders agent is scott boras? And he makes 10M? And he controlled for only two more years???
Murder the Marlins starting Monday!!!
Crazy Trades McGee
September 25th, 20094:51 pm
It will be a CRIME SHAME if Frank Wren doesn’t find a clue and trade Jurrjens and Hanson for Sabathia and Burnett
Those numbers are 2nd half or since the All Star break for Prado and Norton. I post them for you if you can’t find them.
And the rest of you who just want to criticize someone, here is where that post came from:
September 25th, 2009
(I think that the Braves fielding the best players they have……..and not playing “Bobby’s boys”…….is a big factor).
I just hope that if any important pinch hitting situations do come up…..that Bobby WILL NOT use Greg “rally killer” Norton. PaulLentz
Lentz, I get so tired of hearing the same thing repeated from you time after time. I think your hatred of Greg Norton is exceeded only by your love of Martin Prado.
But Paul, let me tell you something about those two. Greg Norton IS a pinch hitter. His job, more than anything else, is to not make an out. To get on base, to extend rallies and not to make outs. His OBP is .385 while Martin Prado’s OBP since the All Star break is .311. No, Norton is not better than Prado, but he is better at what he is paid to do – PINCH HIT.
Just one of a long list of things you are WRONG about.
September 25th, 20094:53 pm
chop chop – thank you for your constructive ‘your and idiot’ comment based on my grammar. that is hilarious and i don’t even know how to respond.
forgive me, before you get the wrong impression of me, i suppose i should add ‘tongue in cheek’ beside my prior, jesting post.
Brett Lawrie is probably going to be the Brewers number 1 prospect next year. C/3B.
September 25th, 20094:54 pm
Anybody know if The Grinch that I saw on Bradley’s blog is our original?
September 25th, 20094:55 pm
Honestly, it would be plain nuts to trade Jurrjens for a bat. He and Hanson are the rotation’s nucleus. Lowe, Hudson, Vazquez and Kawakami are in the mid to late thirties. Their shelf lives aren’t that much longer.
Wren, I imagine plans to build the rotation around those two guys. Minor is in the wings; Medlen is here. Tehran (sp) is moving up through the system.
The future needs to be younger, not older.
I’d make Fielder take a psych exam before trading for him. No one is safe with that dude around.
September 25th, 20094:58 pm
Bay Area Steve & Brandon
This is LSUFREEK’s page on the Sporting Blog. He started out on Tiger Dropping’s. (an LSU site) Fun with farks…
September 25th, 20095:00 pm
If you keep Lowe, KK, and Hudson…could be a real long season next year.
“Brett Lawrie is probably going to be the Brewers number 1 prospect next year. C/3B.” – P.W. Hjort
Actually, Lawrie switched to 2nd base this year because he thought it would give him a chance to make it to the majors sooner. Reviews are essentially that he’s a brutal fielder at any position, but tremendous offensive potential.
rammerjammer – Philly is heading to their 3rd straight division title, not their 2nd. The Braves are getting there. They have a well stocked farm system, a pitching staff light years better than last year’s mess, and much improved lineup than in the early part of the year. Sad part is they had 3 chances to take a series from the Phils in the last 30 days and failed each time. They have some things to fix, for sure – cleanup hitter would be nice. Rockies have a tough schedule but it may not be too litle too late.
September 25th, 20095:04 pm
Brewers wouldn’t do that. Besides that it’s a bad deal for them, if you are in agreement to deal Fielder, you need to do it for quantity and quality. Younger, cheaper players that are controllable for years to come. More than just one guy. That’s why I never got the Cain for Fielder swap. Not the play to make if your Melvin, imo.
September 25th, 20095:05 pm
I’d like to replace Frank Wren with Glenn Beck. We need a GM who cares enough to cry.
According to ESPN the braves chances of making the playoffs are just shy of Greg Norton’s batting average.
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