Diaz finds a home … no, not Citi Field

 

 

New York — If you own Mets season tickets and attended every game at Citi Field this season, you are a person in need of companionship or a hobby.

No, no … we kid the Flushing faithful.

But seriously, if there is someone who has attended every game played at Citi Field this season, assuming they watched all the action on the field and weren’t distracted by the drunken brawls in the stands (OK, kidding again; it’s not as rough as Shea), then you have seen Matt Diaz hit as many homers here as Mets Carlos Beltran, Carlos Delgado, Brian Schneider or, yes, Jeff Francoeur. Which isn’t good for the Mets, of course, since Diaz plays for the Braves.

Let me repeat: Matt Diaz has hit as many homers (three) in 23 at-bats during his six games at Citi Field as Beltran has hit here (three homers in 129 at-bats in 34 games), Delgado (three homers in 50 at-bats in 15 games), Schneider (three homers in 66 at-bats in 24 games) or Francoeur (three homers in 119 at-bats in 32 games).

Proud papa Diaz has thrived with Braves

Proud papa Diaz has thrived with Braves

Diaz has hit only two fewer homers in 23 at-bats at Citi Field as Mets star David Wright, who has five homers in 244 at-bats. And only two fewer than Gary Sheffield, who has five in 149 at-bats.

Taken a step further, Brian McCann and Adam LaRoche each has hit two homers in seven games at Citi Field; that’s twice as many as Jose Reyes, who hit one homer in 85 at-bats at the new stadium before he got hurt, like most other Mets not named Wright.

Ryan Church hit one homer in 97 at-bats at Citi Field before the Mets traded him to the Braves.

So maybe it’s not a ballpark thing, necessarily. Maybe it a Mets thing. Maybe they’ve got it in their heads, like Brian Giles and Ryan Klesko and other San Diego players who convinced t anyone else who’d listen that Petco Park in that great city was just about impossible to hit homers out of on a regular basis (Chipper Jones, Andruw Jones and other Braves who hit plenty of them there might disagree).

Now, granted, the Braves might have played most of their games at Citi Field when conditions were better for hitting. Maybe the wind hasn’t blown in, or it’s been warmer for their games, or whatever. But that can’t explain the disparity, why a Diaz can hit three homers at the ballpark, or one every seven at-bats or so, and Wright hits one every 50 or so at-bats.

It should be noted, the Mets rank last in the NL with 47 home runs in their home ballpark. But it should also be noted, they rank last on the road with 41 homers.

So this, too, is noted: The Mets don’t hit many home runs, particularly when so many of their star players have missed much of the season with a variety of injuries, including several injuries that have taken two or three times longer to heal than expected, and two or three times longer than such injuries usually take to heal.

Did we say that? I guess we did.

Can’t say that I blame Mets players for not wanting to rush back to finish out this disaster of a first season in their beautiful new ballpark (and it really is a nice ballpark). What with them 21 games under .500 at this point.

But damn, how ‘bout having Jose Reyes come back to play the last couple weeks, or a couple of games, maybe throw a bone to the season-ticket holders, give them some reason to believe next year might be different?

As far as we know, Neko Case was not at Tuesday's game

As far as we know, Neko Case was not at Tuesday's game

 

Between the hundreds of million of dollars that Mets owner Fred Wilpon reportedly lost in the Bernie Madoff investment-fraud scandal, the millions upon millions of dollars tied up in contracts for players who’ve spent most of the season on the DL, and the half-empty ballpark (even when attendance is announced at over 37,000, like last night; that’s tickets sold, not used), it’s not been a good year to be a Mets owner, or fan, new ballpark nothwithstanding.

But, hey, the Braves have too many problems of their own to feel sorry for the Metropolitans, right?

But you gotta think the Mets would like to have Diaz tell them the secret to hitting balls out of their ballpark, right?

♣ Speaking of Diaz: This was the whole point I was going to get to before I got sidetracked by comparing his homers at Citi Field to the puny homer totals of Mets players. And that is, is anyone as surprised as me that Diaz has once again defied skeptics with his production this season?

I must say, I figured after his injury-marred 2008 season, when he hit .244 with two homers and 14 RBI in 135 at-bats, that Diaz had come back to reality and would probably spent the rest of his career bouncing around every few years from organization to organization, with some side trips to Triple-A.

And that would be a bad deal for us writers, since Diaz, 31, is, without question, as down-to-earth, funny, and enjoyable to be around as any athlete I’ve ever covered, in college or professional sports.

But anyway, man was I wrong. About him being headed directly for journeyman status. The dude can flat-out hit, and I’m never going to be surprised again to see him hit well over .300 and rake any and all lefties.

Diaz is hitting .321 with 34 extra-base hits (12 homers) and a .395 OBP in 343 at-bats, and his .501 slugging percentage has his OPS flirting with .900 (.896).

Folks, that’s doing work. And you can bet that the dollars are rising steadily on the salary Diaz should be able to command as a third-year arbitration guy, after making $1.237 million this season.

Since June 30, all he’s done is hit .350 with nine homers, 36 RBI and a .970 OPS in 67 games.

For the season, Diaz ranks third in the majors with a .410 average against lefties, just ahead of some guy named Jeter (.407).

For his career, Diaz has raised his average to .312 with a .359 OBP and .462 slugging percentage, with 35 homers in 1,252 at-bats and 467 games.

After being basically dumped by Kansas City and Tampa Bay, Diaz has thrived since landing with the Braves in a December 2005 trade for minor league pitcher Ricardo Rodriguez that was buried in newspapers outside newspapers, if mentioned at all.

Since coming to the Braves, Diaz has played in 419 games and hit .319 with 56 doubles, eight triples and 33 homers, with a .364 OBP and .470 slugging percentage in 1,133 at-bats.

Yesterday, I was talking to him about other stuff and asked if he could imagine the Braves without Bobby Cox as manager. He looked genuinely stunned for a moment.

“I hadn’t thought about it,” he said. “I honestly haven’t thought about it — is there a possibility of it?”braves.0720

I said, well, Bobby hasn’t committed to returning, and the Braves haven’t committed to bringing him back, and…

“I don’t know,” Diaz said. “It would be different…. I haven’t even thought to process that.”

Then I asked him about the perception that some outside the organization, particularly fans, have about Cox maybe having lost some of the touch he used to have in terms of motivating players or relating to today’s players, that kind of thing.

Diaz seemed surprised.

“I couldn’t name a more popular manager in baseball to play for than Bobby Cox,” he said. “I mean for right now, or when I first got here four years ago, or from what you hear from … forever. I mean, he’s just … You want to win, and when you don’t, you’re mad you lost and you also feel like you let him down, because you know how bad he wants to win.”

I asked if he could still related to both older players and younger players and motivate them like he always did.

“Yeah, that’s the amazing part,” Diaz said. “The older players, you understand it because they’ve been around it, they’ve won with him. But the younger players, he gets their respect immediately because he respects them.

“I mean, I remember my first year here, he treated me like any of the older guys, and I was shocked by how well I was treated as a first-year guy over here.

“He’s the one who gave me all the confidence in myself to be able to go out and do what I’ve done in Atlanta. And it’s no coincidence that I was a very average player before. I dominated the minor leagues, but I was a very average big-league player before I came here. Because it was a confidence issue.

“When you have a manager like Bobby Cox tell you you’re good, you believe him. And he goes out of his way to tell his players they’re good. I think that’s why you play so hard for him.”

 ♣ OK, folks, I’m outta time today. I spent part of the day writing a story about the team and Liberty Media ownership going forward, after talking with Terry McGuirk yesterday. That story should be up on the website soon.

Meantime, I’ve gotta get over to the ballpark. Hopefully the rain stopped and water’s receding where you live if you’re in the Atlanta area.

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“THE RAIN CAME DOWN” by Steve Earle

The old man loaded up everything that he owned

On a wagon and headed out west

The old woman fearlessly faced the unknown

‘Cause she figured he knew what was best

And they settled down hard on a government grant

With six mouths to feed and forty acres to plant

 

And the rain came down

Like an angel come down from above

And the rain came down

It’ll wash you away and there ain’t never enough

 

Fall turned to winter another year gone

Over and over again

Some took their lives from their land and moved on

And some stayed on to plow it back in

And the good Lord he giveth and he taketh away

And the restless shall go and the faithful shall stay

 

Now my grandaddy died in the room he was born in

Twenty-three summers ago

But I could have sworn he was beside me this morning

When the sheriff showed up at my door

So don’t you come around here with your auctioneer man

‘Cause you can have the machines but you ain’t taking my land

 

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beekay

September 22nd, 2009
3:22 pm

I case you haven’t seen this…interesting about the young catcherBraves Final Report

Jason Heyward faced every challenge in jumping to Triple-A

By Bill Ballew
September 17, 2009

Best Player: Outfield Jason Heyward officially jumped on the fast track in 2009. After hitting .300 with a pair of home runs in big league camp, the 14th overall pick in the 2007 draft dominated the high Class A Carolina League for the campaign’s first three months before becoming even more productive in the Double-A Southern League in July and August.

Promoted to Triple-A Gwinnett and going 4-for-11 with a pair of RBIs in the final three regular season contests, the 20-year-old Heyward finished the season hitting .323/.408/.555 with 17 home runs and 63 RBIs.

“We gave Jason the opportunity to step up and face the next challenge and he did that at every level this season,” farm director Kurt Kemp said.

Best Pitcher: While Tommy Hanson emerged as a Rookie of the Year candidate in Atlanta, the Braves’ most impressive hurler was righthanded reliever Craig Kimbrel, who twirled at all four full-season levels in 2009.

A third-round pick out of Wallace State (Ala.) CC in 2008, the righthander struggled with his control upon opening the season at high Class A Myrtle Beach and spent two months at low Class A Rome working on his mechanics.

He returned to the Carolina League in late June, before being promoted Double-A Mississippi a month later and allowed one earned run in 12 innings while going 6-for-6 in save opportunities. Kimbrel, 21, spent the final week at Gwinnett and concluded the year averaging 15.45 strikeouts per nine innings.

Keep An Eye On: Considered the top international catching prospect in 2008, Christian Bethancourt signed with Atlanta for $600,000 in March of that year. The Braves knew the 16-year-old Panamanian would be a work-in-progress, if for no other reason than his youth and lack of physical development.

Bethancourt, however, has turned up the clock. In addition to showing all the tools to be a top-flight receiver, his bat exceeded early expectations during his time in Rookie ball. He hit .284/.344/.431 in the Gulf Coast League before batting .260/.339/.480 in 14 games at Danville.

WIGWAM WISPS

• Center fielder Jordan Schafer had surgery Aug. 31 to remove a bone spur in his left wrist and was expected to be sidelined for three months. Schafer is hoping to recover in time to play a few weeks in winter ball.

• Heyward, Kimbrel, first baseman Freddie Freeman and first-round lefthander Mike Minor are among the seven players the Braves are sending to the Arizona Fall League in preparation of possible big league debuts in 2010.

DAP

September 22nd, 2009
3:25 pm

10paulThis doesn’t include raises to Yunel, McCann, Hanson, Jurrjens, Chipper, McLouth, Prado, Moylan, Omar, Ross, Diaz, and whoever else. Right now that could be around $11 million…

yeah, clearly it doesnt include raises. but $11mil in raises? anything to back that up?

Anthony

September 22nd, 2009
3:25 pm

Hey DOB,

What do you take of reports that Wren and Cox are at odds?

TennesseePaul

September 22nd, 2009
3:26 pm

Thanks for the blog DOB

Capt. Morgan

September 22nd, 2009
3:29 pm

The Mets traded Church to the Mets?

Rob from SC

September 22nd, 2009
3:29 pm

Anthony

September 22nd, 2009
3:25 pm
Hey DOB,

What do you take of reports that Wren and Cox are at odds?

Wren realizes that Cox gives to many games away

Efrim

September 22nd, 2009
3:30 pm

yeah, clearly it doesnt include raises. but $11mil in raises? anything to back that up?

I wasn’t apart of the convo, but I know Chipper is going to be making 3 million more, McCann 2 million more and McLouth 2 million more. That’s 7 million between those three and with the other arb. eligibles, 11 million sounds about right.

TennesseePaul

September 22nd, 2009
3:32 pm

DAP: Based off of Cots, and speculation of the “unsigned buy under control” guys… (figures in millions) let’s see if this works…

Chipper &nbsp 2
McLouth &nbsp 2.5
Omar &nbsp 0.375
Ross &nbsp 0.2
Diaz &nbsp 2
McCann &nbsp 2
Jurrjens &nbsp 1.5
Escobar &nbsp 0.5
Prado &nbsp 0.3

DAP

September 22nd, 2009
3:32 pm

10paul i figured out some of the raises, and was surprised to see that chipperm infante, mccann, mclouth, and ross have a little over $7.5mil in raises coming. not nearly $11mil, but still higher than i thought. id expect diaz to get about another $1mil, and i dont think any of the other guys you mentioned are eligible for raises.

TennesseePaul

September 22nd, 2009
3:32 pm

Nope. Didn’t work that well at all… But the data is there.

i cant take it anymore

September 22nd, 2009
3:32 pm

I flat out love Matt Diaz. I always pay attention to the way he hustles, his total effort and focus at the plate, and his uncommon and genuine humble demeanor. What a model player. Thanks for all the insight on Diaz, DOB. I hope matty plays the rest of years with the bravos. So glad we have him

DAP

September 22nd, 2009
3:33 pm

efrim, mclouth only gets a $1mil raise, i believe.

TennesseePaul

September 22nd, 2009
3:35 pm

Sheeesh typos all over those two. At any rate, I don’t think $11 million is that far off.

TennesseePaul

September 22nd, 2009
3:36 pm

DAP: McLouth goes from 2mil in 09 to 4.5 mil in 2010

Mixxo

September 22nd, 2009
3:36 pm

I like LaRoche, but can we afford to have almost zero production from first base in the first half of the season?

I don’t think so.

Capt. Morgan

September 22nd, 2009
3:39 pm

Great insight into Diaz. Thanks for the new blog, DOB.

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
3:39 pm

Thanks for the new blog, DOB.

That’s a cute pic of MattE with his kids. I really like him both as a player and off the field as well. Seems like a super cool guy and very entertaining. Yeah, he may swing at the crappiest pitches ever but when he connects, he can flat out hit. Not to mention he always gives it a 110%.

Efrim

September 22nd, 2009
3:39 pm

I’m interested to see if the Braves plan on staying at 96 million or thereabouts. If that’s the case, they should have some money to work with.

DAP

September 22nd, 2009
3:42 pm

10paul gotcha, looking at this page

http://piraterevolution.com/2009/02/mclouths-extension-deserved-meaningless.html

and it includes a bonus which i guess the pirates paid the the beginning of the year.

McFann :Ô:

September 22nd, 2009
3:42 pm

Thanks for the new Blog, Chief! Great numbers/quotes from Matty! I love that guy! There are baseball players and there’s Matt Diaz…

And I love the picture of him and his kids! I remember that’s from Family Day 2008. Good stuff…

Diaz, 31, is, without question, as down-to-earth, funny, and enjoyable to be around as any athlete I’ve ever covered, in college or professional sports.

I totally believe that.

Thrillhouse44

September 22nd, 2009
3:43 pm

Bet some of those Mets’ injuries would be healed if Cox was in their dugout.

What are the requirements for Comeback Player of the Year? Any chance Diaz adds that accolade to his “Best Smack Talk” award. Find a clue…

McFann :Ô:

September 22nd, 2009
3:44 pm

Soph @ 3:39–

I agree 110%!

Efrim

September 22nd, 2009
3:44 pm

And….after looking at DOB’s article, it seems like we aren’t slashing payroll. Nice.

P. W. Hjort

September 22nd, 2009
3:44 pm

Since coming to the Braves, Diaz has played in 419 games and hit .319 with 56 doubles, eight triples and 33 homers, with a .364 OBP and .470 slugging percentage in 1,133 at-bats.

I think he’s got a starting job to lose next year. He has to. He’s been too good to waste any more time letting him prove he’s a starter. He’s already proven it and now he has to prove he doesn’t deserve it for the status quo to change in my opinion.

N8

September 22nd, 2009
3:45 pm

From the other blog:

“I’m actually for trading anyone in the system not named Jason Heyward for a legit middle of the order bat. That includes Freeman.” Efrim

Totally agree, even on Freeman. But it has to be for a guy that would be willing to sign long-term, be in his prime (or younger than it), and not somebody like JD Drew. I have no interest in that. But if we could trade a guy like Freeman for Derek Lee and the lock him up? Though Lee is a little old for me. Prefer somebody around 26-30 years old and proven. Prince Fielder maybe?

But if it’s just going to be a one year wonder, I’d rather wait for Freeman. Count me in the category of guys who certainly would have rather had the “streak” end, than lose Wainwright. That trade would have stung a helluva lot less, had Drew signed a 4 or 5 year deal with us after that season.

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
3:47 pm

Soph @ 3:39–

I agree 110%!

McFann – ditto on your 3:42! :-)

Piedmont Blues

September 22nd, 2009
3:48 pm

Mixxo,

LaRoche doesn’t provide zero production in the first half. More like a .780 OPS (at or above league average). Every year except 2007, he’s hit double-digit HR before the All-Star Game.

When the weather warms up, though, so does he.

Efrim

September 22nd, 2009
3:49 pm

N8, agreed on everything you said. Braves can’t afford to make trades for players that are only signed for one year.

Daslied

September 22nd, 2009
3:49 pm

DAP – I posted a response to you on the last blog, but TennessePaul has covered it here. Looks like set contractual increases of $7.075MM to Chipper, McLouth, McCann, Infante and Ross.

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
3:50 pm

Great stuff on Matty-D. He is one of the best players out there and always plays with heart. That pic is so cute.

Daslied

September 22nd, 2009
3:50 pm

Piedmont – Abreu is a good player, to be sure. But don’t you read the blog, man? Anything short of a 40 HR guy and we’re toast!

Piedmont Blues

September 22nd, 2009
3:50 pm

Actually, my bad. 2007 he had 8 HR after the break. So he’s been in double digits the first half of every full season he’s played.

RC

September 22nd, 2009
3:51 pm

“I like LaRoche, but can we afford to have almost zero production from first base in the first half of the season?

I don’t think so.”

LaRoche’s numbers compare VERY favorably with Casey Kotchman over the 1st half of the season….the difference being that Kotchman had the higher batting avg, while LaRoche had the higher slugging percentage. On base percentage was actually pretty close. Considering that Kotchman was mostly a singles hitter, that gives LaRoche the edge in my mind….and that’s not even considering his 2nd half.

Jake7

September 22nd, 2009
3:52 pm

That is not a basis to KEEP(popular) BOBBY! He’s done a VERY GOOD job in managing the Braves OVER the years with TED TURNERS money…BUT It’s TIME for a CHANGE!! We NEED a TRANSFUSION !!

Thrillhouse44

September 22nd, 2009
3:52 pm

Prince Fielder maybe?

That dude is crazy! I love his production, but, man maybe if he came with a year’s supply of happy pills I’d like this deal. It’s bad enough that he tries to fight the other team in their own locker room, but he’s down for fighting his own pitcher in the dugout. Poor Tim Hudson would play a prank on him and end up on the DL for another year.

Piedmont Blues

September 22nd, 2009
3:54 pm

Daslied,

On further review, I looked a little closer at Abreu’s numbers and he looks like a slight upgrade over McLouth. Runs a little more and walks a little more, but in fact he’s a very similar hitter. (Nate may have a bit more power.) Funny how impressions change once you win a home run derby.

benchwarmer

September 22nd, 2009
3:59 pm

Shaeffer looked so much like a little boy trying to play a mans game. He has a big flaw with letter high inside fastballs. He seemed to come apart more and more as the season progressed. I think McClouth says what is needed to know about Shaeffers standing with the Braves. Matt Diaz is my starting left/right fielder until he forgets how to hit, which doesn’t seem likely. Upchurch for backup. Need another starting outfielder who will hit with pop. These are my priorities along with maintaining/getting a reliable bullpin.

beekay

September 22nd, 2009
4:00 pm

DOB or anyone
How many at bats does Matty Ice need to get in the batting title race officially

Daslied

September 22nd, 2009
4:00 pm

I was just reading the MLBTR chat, and I’m eagerly anticipating these discussions:

1. Javy for Dunn!
2. Javy for Ortiz!
3. Sign Ankiel!

I say “ick” to all three.

Jake7

September 22nd, 2009
4:04 pm

Here’s ANOTHER thought….Get TERRY McGUIRK (CEO)a different photo (sitting in the dugout with ROLLUP sleeves….100% cotton shirt)..not the IMAGE of a HARDWORKING CEO ! Me thinks we have been in SHOCK & AHHH
with OUR TEAM for the LAST 4 years.

benchwarmer

September 22nd, 2009
4:05 pm

“ick” is right. Get over the Dunn thing people. He is soooo one dimensional.

Huddy's Ligament

September 22nd, 2009
4:06 pm

I like Matt Diaz and I think he hustles and tries hard – but there’s something about him – like the boneheaded attempts to bunt and the awkward fielding – that I just don’t trust.
I mean, I think he’s got a bit of Frenchy in him – if the game were on the line in the bottom of the ninth in the 7th game of the World Series with two outs – I would not want to see him at the plate.

RC

September 22nd, 2009
4:06 pm

“Shaeffer looked so much like a little boy trying to play a mans game. He has a big flaw with letter high inside fastballs. He seemed to come apart more and more as the season progressed.” – benchwarmer

I think it’s important to take into account that Schafer was dealing with bone spurs in his wrist the entire season. Pretty hard to turn on an inside fastball with that going on. I actually think he’ll be fine long term….good plate discipline, great defense, middling offense. To me he has a chance to be Mark Kotsay with slightly better power and a little more speed (I’m talking about the Atlanta version of Kotsay….didn’t watch him enough earlier in his career to comment on his skills then).

benchwarmer

September 22nd, 2009
4:06 pm

What did Jake say?

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
4:08 pm

I was just reading the MLBTR chat, and I’m eagerly anticipating these discussions:

1. Javy for Dunn!
2. Javy for Ortiz!
3. Sign Ankiel!

I say “ick” to all three.

I second that ick and add a blah. Nu uh, I don’t like any of those.

benchwarmer

September 22nd, 2009
4:09 pm

RC, good point. There’s been a lot of buzz about him, I’ll admit. Maybe he’ll show more with good wrists and the character building experience he has endured.

benchwarmer

September 22nd, 2009
4:17 pm

Remember the right fielder with the “Miracle Mets of 1969″. He had a great world series in the field even though he was a best mediocre during the season. I think Diaz had a little more difficulty because he swicthed to right field this year. Given time to ajust I believe he will improve like he did in left field. More than anything I believe the man has a winning heart and just would not let the team down. He would raise his level ! Do you think Pete Rose was a natural at all of the positions he played. That man worked for it.

Huddy's Ligament

September 22nd, 2009
4:22 pm

I don’t think Diaz is the second coming of Charlie Hustle.

When he gets 4,000 hits, however, I will agree.

McFann :Ô:

September 22nd, 2009
4:22 pm

Soph

Yeah, Matty rules.

Jake7

September 22nd, 2009
4:23 pm

BENCHWARMER,
We have TRADED the farm for “quick fix” problems….with SO CALLED high profile players….this isn’t heresay!! Bobby was SLOOOW to put DIAZ in a starting position…along with PRADO,INFANTE…etc. This isn’t BRAIN SURGERY…..it is common sense.

Anders

September 22nd, 2009
4:24 pm

So maybe it’s not a ballpark thing, necessarily. Maybe it a Mets thing. Maybe they’ve got it in their heads, (DOB)

I agree with this. While the park does play long so did Shea. I think many of the Mets psyched themselves out from the get go. Manuel even said they worked on tailoring Wrights swing to the new park while down in ST. That’s ridiculous. He got in a power funk and can’t get out. Is there an alarm you can wear around your neck for that?

Daslied

September 22nd, 2009
4:26 pm

Funny, I’d actually be okay with Diaz batting to decide a World Series. He can hit anything except high fastballs with 2 strikes. :)

Paul Lentz

September 22nd, 2009
4:27 pm

I know I’ve havent been here much lately (been really busy with a few things). However, I’ve been keeping up with the Bravos. Even though we are 5 out with 12 games left……..there is a somewhat of a decent shot left at the play-offs.

The Braves remaining schedule is VERY favorable. 2 more against the Mets. Then 3 in Washington, followed by 3 at home against Florida and the last 4 hosting Washington. If the Braves can win all 7 remaining games against the Nationals (if we continue to get good pitching along with our offense beating up on the Nationals PATHETIC pitching)…….also with winning the last 2 games of the current Mets series…….then if we can win 2 of 3 against the Marlins….that would allow us to finish 11-1 in our last 12 games. If the Braves can treat these games like play-off games (our play the last 2 weeks indicates that we are capable of playing winning baseball)………I dont see why we cant finish 11-1.

The Rockies schedule is a LOT tougher than ours…..after they finish up the next 3 games against the Padres. They have 3 against St. Louis, followed by 3 against Milwaukee and 3 in L.A. I can see the Rockies finishing up with a 6-6 record in their remaining 12 games.

I know that those are a lot of “ifs”, however if the Braves can take care of business against the Mets and Nationals…that will put a lot of pressure against the Rockies. Because of the play of the Braves the past few weeks, it isnt out of the realm of possibility that the Braves can mount a furious play-off push in the final 12 games and at least tie the Rockies, forcing a 1 game play-off.

WIN NOW

September 22nd, 2009
4:28 pm

Trade the farm for a quick fix!!! We need to WIN NOW for Chipper and Bobby!

Go Braves!

sportsmandh

September 22nd, 2009
4:30 pm

RC,

Continuing discussion from last blog

If you think LaRoche is a better hitter than Derek Lee, then I’d like to invite you to play in my fantasy baseball league. Be nice if we could put a poll up on the blog, who would you take head up LaRoche or Lee? Bet it would be at least 70% or more Lee. Don’t let one of Adam’s current hot streaks hide the fact that yeah he’s a guy that can hit 30 HRs, but he’s only done that once compared to 4 times for Lee.

The year Lee hit 8 homeruns he broke his wrist, only played 50 games and missed the rest of the season. And 34 ain’t old for a 1st baseman.
Lee is much more consistent than LaRoche. Defensively it’s a wash, they’re both solid there.

Again, not saying it’s even a possiblity. But let’s don’t act like Roachy is the best thing since sliced bread. And don’t argue about the money, b/c to get a good right handed power hitter, aka Lee, Holiday, Bay, etc., they’re all gonna cost.

njbraves

September 22nd, 2009
4:33 pm

Great comments from Diaz. Although there is nothing he could have said that would make most here feel any different about Bobby. I, for one, hope he manages again next year. Say what you want, but it is not his fault that this offense goes into lulls every few days.

Anders

September 22nd, 2009
4:33 pm

So maybe it’s not a ballpark thing, necessarily. Maybe it a Mets thing. Maybe they’ve got it in their heads, (DOB)

I agree with this. The Mets players psyched themselves out right from the start. Jerry Manuel even said on the radio last week that they retooled Wright’s swing somewhat in ST to prepare for the new park. That’s ridiculous. The field does play long but so did Shea. They’ll never have a 50 HR guy but 30 shouldn’t be so distant.

ncscoots

September 22nd, 2009
4:33 pm

MORON alert. Cue the props.

dogsbrekky - Citi Citi Citi

September 22nd, 2009
4:34 pm

What a fun game, got a free ticket, great dinner, 3 homers in 3 innings, Chipper signed my jersey, mutts fans were quiet and we got to drink lots of red wine… kind of liking this new NYC stadium

then today the baseball gods kicked me in the kahunas… the NYPD had towed my car while I was getting sheet faced at SHEA goodbye to ‘Ollywood II… $400 and a bit of body damage later, I got the beast back…

god if the karma is good it means a big Braves final week or so… let’s go and get 10 wins in a row

It is doable folks….

dogsbrekky - Citi Citi Citi

September 22nd, 2009
4:36 pm

scoots and other aficionado fans – anyone like this idea

Jair straight up for Ryan Braun ??

Officer Anders

September 22nd, 2009
4:36 pm

You should see the piece of crap we picked up yesterday. We banged it up a bit and then made the owner pay us more than it was worth to get it back.

Piedmont Blues

September 22nd, 2009
4:39 pm

sportsmandh,

Lee would cost money and players. LaRoche just money.

Huddy's Ligament

September 22nd, 2009
4:39 pm

I’d rather us have 7 games left against contenders than the Nationals, as things have gone…

N8

September 22nd, 2009
4:40 pm

Just want to give you guys some insight on how good we have it (even with no playoffs this year), as Braves fans. I’m listening to KC sports talk radio online while I’m working, and they are pumping tonight’s Royals game in different ways.

1) Zach Greinke is pitching (that alone should make it worth the price of admission).

But this one kills me. I’m sure the team isn’t promoing it this way, but similar to 680 the fan in Atlanta, the have their little commercial updates inbetween shows and going to commercial break, and the announcer contines to state that if the Royals win tonight, they will have avoided a 100 loss season.

Wow. Different levels of expectations, huh?

Anders

September 22nd, 2009
4:40 pm

So maybe it’s not a ballpark thing, necessarily. Maybe it a Mets thing. Maybe they’ve got it in their heads, (DOB)

I agree with this. The Mets players psyched themselves out from the start. Last week on the radio Jerry Manuel said they even retooled Wright’s swing in ST to prepare for the new park. That’s ridiculous. The park does play long but so did Shea. They’ll never have a 50 HR guy there but 30 shouldn’t be so distant.

Wayne in Utah (Bring me the head of Yunel Escobar)

September 22nd, 2009
4:41 pm

dogsbrekky

In a heart beat, my friend…..see ya Jair! Thanks for the memories!

Efrim

September 22nd, 2009
4:42 pm

Jair straight up for Ryan Braun ??

Brewers hang up first.

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
4:43 pm

McFann, isn’t your brother at the Catholic college in Dawsonville? I just saw where student up there drowned last night. Just want to make sure your brother is okay. They didn’t give any names (not that I would know your bro’s name, but . . . )

dogsbrekky - Citi Citi Citi

September 22nd, 2009
4:44 pm

Wayne – had heard talk of Jair and Prado for Ryan being discussed by FW…. is this too OUT there

Wayne in Utah (I got hit by a dragon fly on my pinkie finger, and I can barely type)

September 22nd, 2009
4:44 pm

towed cars suck

Steve from OH

September 22nd, 2009
4:45 pm

You’re not taken 7th in the draft unless you’re real good. Or maybe the Braves can’t scout anymore.

Ah, lest ye forget Keith Law’s report that Roy Clark went askin’ LM for the cash to sign Matt Purke…

But Minor’s good, no doubt.

Wayne in Utah (I got hit by a dragon fly on my pinkie finger, and I can barely type)

September 22nd, 2009
4:46 pm

dogsbrekky

Don’t know if there is any validity to that deal, but Braun is EXACTLY the type of player we need in our lineup. Hard hitting right hander, hits for average, good OPS, power, etc.

Throw in Prado.

dogsbrekky - Citi Citi Citi

September 22nd, 2009
4:47 pm

Wayne – i look at the towed car this way… I was mouthing off big time to any and all mutts fans last night at SHEA II including the fuzz/pigs/whatever you call cops here… all night… so fitting they got me back big time…. then cause we have the big UN week here in NYC I could NOT get a park and had to garage the pig for the night for another $31…………… OH THE disaster it has all become..

tonight I am staying home and being more HUMBLE

Efrim

September 22nd, 2009
4:48 pm

Ah, lest ye forget Keith Law’s report that Roy Clark went askin’ LM for the cash to sign Matt Purke…

Steve from OH, do you think the fact that they needed more pitching depth in te high minors had anything to do with the selection? I know you should never draft for need, and the Braves haven’t really in as many years as I have followed, but given the volume of low-a pitchers we had maybe they wanted the high probablity pitcher? Thoughts?

Capt. Morgan

September 22nd, 2009
4:49 pm

Paul Lentz:

Your theory on making the playoffs is good except:

When was the last time the Braves actually “took care” of the Nationals?

Wayne in Utah (I got hit by a dragon fly on my pinkie finger, and I can barely type)

September 22nd, 2009
4:50 pm

As much as I would hate to lose a guy like Jurrjens, if he brought the correct bounty, I think our staff is strong enough to survive without him.

Hanson, Vazquez, Hudson, Lowe, Kawakami, Medlen, Minor, Reyes (long shots, the last two)

Good number of possible starters.

How about letting Soriano and Gonzo walk this winter, and go after Billy Wagner for a 1 year plus an option?

Efrim

September 22nd, 2009
4:50 pm

I could be wrong, but I think Braun is one of the more valuable players in baseball with his contract status, age and production. I really think they have no intention of trading him. And if they did, it would take more than Jair and Prado. Just my two cents on that subject.

rammerjammer

September 22nd, 2009
4:52 pm

If Braun was available, I’d give them Jurrjens, Prado and Freeman, too. In a heartbeat.

Wayne in Utah (I got hit by a dragon fly on my pinkie finger, and I can barely type)

September 22nd, 2009
4:52 pm

Big cities are great, so long as you don’t have to find a place to park!

:evil:

Efrim

September 22nd, 2009
4:52 pm

How about letting Soriano and Gonzo walk this winter, and go after Billy Wagner for a 1 year plus an option?

Wayne in Utah, we’d probably have to give up a first round draft pick to sign Billy Wagner. Since he is pretty old and a relief pitcher, I’d rather not do that. I do like Wagner, though. And I would totally be for the idea if the Red Sox decided against offering him arbitration.

Wayne in Utah (I got hit by a dragon fly on my pinkie finger, and I can barely type)

September 22nd, 2009
4:54 pm

Efrim

I agree. If the Brewers GM did that deal, he better get 2-3 top prospects/players for him. That’s a potential career maker or killer, depending on which way it goes a few years down the road.

Steve from OH

September 22nd, 2009
4:54 pm

Efrim–sure, if it was a percieved need, I would absolutely believe it was a consideration. I don’t think you ever draft solely for need, but to say it’s not a consideration is foolish.

Wayne in Utah (I got hit by a dragon fly on my pinkie finger, and I can barely type)

September 22nd, 2009
4:56 pm

Connie Chung

Yes he is. I only like white players. Are you buying that one?? If so, I got a good used bridge for ya!

Lew

September 22nd, 2009
4:57 pm

Mixxo-The past five seasons, La Roche has averaged 13 HR and 41 RBI prior to the All Star break. No, it’s not his second half numbers, but isn’t as bad as some make it out to be, either. Those power numbers early this year could have made all the difference in us making the playoffs.

dogsbrekky - Citi Citi Citi

September 22nd, 2009
4:57 pm

Thanks Wayne and others re JJ, Prado and one other for Ryan Braun, I assume the 3rd is KJ and the Brewers laugh hard… but seriously,, what is Jair worth… guy is 23, cheap and just pitches like a veteran out there, day after day

Dobi – thanks for the wonderful story on a wonderful guy, MATTY Capt Caveman DIAZ… I just love watching him bust a gut… he is living proof that GUTS (scoots you’ll love this) is a great trait to have

Wayne in Utah (I got hit by a dragon fly on my pinkie finger, and I can barely type)

September 22nd, 2009
4:58 pm

Before the last election, I was a white man. (with 1/64th Cherokee mixed in, so don’t offend me with that tomahawk chop crap!)

:-)

RC

September 22nd, 2009
5:00 pm

sportsmandh,

It would be great to be in a fantasy baseball league with you. Because my point wasn’t that LaRoche was better than Lee, it’s that LaRoche at 1/2 the price was better than Lee. Can you honestly say you’d rather pay $13 million + a prospect for Lee over $7 million and no prospect for LaRoche? Not to mention, the lineups and ballparks that each have played in DO MATTER. Lee has played the past few years of his career playing at Wrigley Field (notorious hitters park) batting 3rd for a REALLY good lineup. LaRoche has spent the past few years of his career playing in Pittsburgh, and batting 4th or 5th most of the time (no protection behind him). Again, this isn’t a question of who is better…it’s a question of value. And in my opinion LaRoche is likely to be a MUCH better return on your investment that Lee is likely to be.

Wayne in Utah (I got hit by a dragon fly on my pinkie finger, and I can barely type)

September 22nd, 2009
5:01 pm

Short of the once in a while misadventure in the field, and the propensity to swing at the high hard one, Matty D has given us a lot of thrills this season for sure.

Can you imagine having him be your 4th outfielder (McLouth, Heyward and ???? as the 3 starters)

Piedmont Blues

September 22nd, 2009
5:02 pm

rammerjammer,

Yep. If Milwaukee wants to deal Braun without involving Heyward, Hanson, Heap, or maybe even Yunel, I’m listening.

McFann :Ô:

September 22nd, 2009
5:03 pm

bravesgrl4life isn’t your brother at the Catholic college in Dawsonville?…Just want to make sure your brother is okay.

Yes, he is. Thank you for asking. He and all the students are pretty shook up, though…the group of guys he had dinner with Sunday night included the boy who drowned, so that was kinda weird, you know.

They cancelled classes today. After lunch, my brother and his friends were walking out in the woods by the lake that’s near the school, and they saved a group of fish from a shallow puddle. So they felt pretty good about that. :)

But thanks again for asking. Mom was kinda freaked out this morning when he called, ’cause she was like, “Aren’t you s’posed to be in class?” and his voice was shaky, so…

wjones

September 22nd, 2009
5:03 pm

“Can you imagine having him be your 4th outfielder (McLouth, Heyward and ???? as the 3 starters)”

I don’t know. I’m not too sold on ???? as a starting OF. Too many question marks.

trey

September 22nd, 2009
5:04 pm

Ok, the Braves had well over a three run lead when Lowe was taken out for Kawakami, so how exactly does Kawakami qualify for a save?

Steve from OH

September 22nd, 2009
5:05 pm

Yep. If Milwaukee wants to deal Braun without involving Heyward, Hanson, Heap, or maybe even Yunel, I’m listening.

Translation: that would mean they’re probably not trading Braun…

RC

September 22nd, 2009
5:06 pm

“You’re not taken 7th in the draft unless you’re real good. Or maybe the Braves can’t scout anymore.”

Tell that to Matt Bush. (#1 overall in 2004)

McFann :Ô:

September 22nd, 2009
5:06 pm

I wouldn’t trade JJ for anything.

My main untouchables include: BMac (no duh), Matty, JJ, Hanson, Vazquez, Timmy…and toss in Medlen, too. I think he’s gonna be pretty good.

Obviously there are others (like Nate…I think we should keep him), but the ones above are the main men.

McFann :Ô:

September 22nd, 2009
5:08 pm

wjones I don’t know. I’m not too sold on ???? as a starting OF. Too many question marks.

Major ROTFLOL!! :lol:

trey

September 22nd, 2009
5:09 pm

Kawakami came in when there was a blow out. There was nothing to save, so how did he get a save?

dogsbrekky

September 22nd, 2009
5:09 pm

McFann – just reading about those things, I am sorry, I will say a prayer or 2…

I was very annoyed with the NY media this am… in the NY Post (the best NY sports paper for beisbol) they did not have a single comment about the Braves 11 – Mutley’s 3 today, not a comment… they even had a 11-3 headline but then discussed how the mutts and Jason Marquis want to hook up in 2010…. seriosuly no game commentary at all

Vinings Jim

September 22nd, 2009
5:10 pm

trey – thanks to DOB this morning:

Rule 10.20 in the Official Rule Book states:
Credit a pitcher with a save when he meets all three of the following conditions:
(1) He is the finishing pitcher in a game won by his club; and
(2) He is not the winning pitcher; and
(3) He qualifies under one of the following conditions:
- (a) He enters the game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitches for at least one inning; or
- (b) He enters the game, regardless of the count, with the potential tying run either on base, or at bat, or on deck (that is, the potential tying run is either already on base or is one of the first two batsmen he faces; or
- (c) He pitches effectively for at least three innings. No more than one save may be credited in each game.

trey

September 22nd, 2009
5:11 pm

Wayne in Utah, are you kidding me? You put Reyes in a lineup and saying that lineup could be strong without Jurrjens? Jurrjens is much better than Kawakami and dude, Reyes isn’t fit to pitch in the MLB.

Daslied

September 22nd, 2009
5:12 pm

Trey – a save can be earned if a guy is the finishing pitcher but not the winner and “pitches effectively for at least three innings.” (That’s from MLB.)

Efrim

September 22nd, 2009
5:12 pm

Efrim–sure, if it was a percieved need, I would absolutely believe it was a consideration. I don’t think you ever draft solely for need, but to say it’s not a consideration is foolish.

Yup, next year for instance. Clearly, the Braves have a serious need for position players in their system. So I’m expecting them to hope that players to their liking(middle infield and the hot corner, specifically) fall to them.

Danga

September 22nd, 2009
5:13 pm

JoJo had his chance to crack the rotation. He did not seize it.

Wayne in Utah (I got hit by a dragon fly on my pinkie finger, and I can barely type)

September 22nd, 2009
5:14 pm

trey

If a reliever finishes a game with 3+ innings (or maybe it is 4+), then it qualifies as a save. It’s a rarity, for sure.

wjones

How about ?? in left? A couple less question marks for sure.

:evil:

McFann :Ô:

September 22nd, 2009
5:15 pm

dogsbrekky

Thank you.

in the NY Post (the best NY sports paper for beisbol) they did not have a single comment about the Braves 11 – Mutley’s 3 today, not a comment

That’s weird…ha! How annoying!

The Real Don Steele

September 22nd, 2009
5:16 pm

Cox continuing to put Chipper in the three hole after Chipper went in the tank killed the Braves chances down the stretch. This is reason enough to realize that Cox can’t assess the team’s situation and make quick judgments that are in the team’s interests and not in the interests of one of his “boys”. Cox needs to retire or be retired. If he comes back next year it will be a wasted season.

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
5:17 pm

I heard about the Marquis/Mets thing. Apparently, Marquis has been speaking to Francoeur about how he’s desperately wanting to join the Mets next season. At least that’s what I read online.

McFann :Ô:

September 22nd, 2009
5:17 pm

Oh, PS, dogsbrekky

We saw a huge blue jay today…I mean HUGE! He was even bigger than my Lovey. :lol:

Wayne How about ?? in left? A couple less question marks for sure.

:lol:

dogsbrekky

September 22nd, 2009
5:20 pm

McFann – maybe my fat heffer of a blue-jay, have not seen him in 2 weeks… love me and leave me

oh well I will have the CROWS for the winter…

Wayne in Utah (I got hit by a dragon fly on my pinkie finger, and I can barely type)

September 22nd, 2009
5:21 pm

trey

Actually, yes. I put Reyes in as one of 8 possible starting pitchers (count ‘em, 8: Hanson, Hudson, Lowe, Kawakami, Vazquez, Medlen, Minor and Reyes).

So, for Reyes to start, he must be LIGHTS frickin out, or we must lose 3 other pitchers to injury. And yes, if we go with our top 8 possible starter, ADD Ryan Braun, our staff could still be dominant.

Come on now, try to keep up.

What I am NOT saying is that I am counting on Reyes. What I AM saying is that I haven’t counted him out yet. TOO many major league starters out, there that took quite a few years to put it all together, while generally sucking for a while.

Reyes has no value now, so why not hang onto him to see if he eventually develops into a potential major league pitcher?

Anders

September 22nd, 2009
5:23 pm

I heard about the Marquis/Mets thing. Apparently, Marquis has been speaking to Francoeur about how he’s desperately wanting to join the Mets next season. At least that’s what I read online (Soph)

Hey, maybe it’s Frenchy these guys have wanted to play with in Atlanta all these years and not Bobby Cox? {:

dogsbrekky

September 22nd, 2009
5:23 pm

MY problem with JoJO is the guts thing, does he have a winning psyche… not sure down here… sorry

Piedmont Blues

September 22nd, 2009
5:24 pm

Steve from OH,

:-)

RC

September 22nd, 2009
5:25 pm

“JoJo had his chance to crack the rotation.”

‘Crack’ is EXACTLY what Jo-Jo did when he was placed in the rotation.

Bullpen pitchers of interest(other than Rafi and Gonzo)

September 22nd, 2009
5:25 pm

Rafael Betancourt
Takashi Saito
Billy Wagner
Jose Valverde
Kiko Calero
J.J. Putz
Darren Oliver
David Weathers
Guillermo Mota
Bob Howry
Latroy Hawkins
Octavio Dotel
Kevin Gregg
John Grabow
Brandon Lyon
Trevor Hoffman
Fernando Rodney

sportsmandh

September 22nd, 2009
5:25 pm

RC,

Yeah, I’d be willing to pay more to get a right handed power bat. Plus I think LaRoche is gonna cost more the $7 mil. The team needs a right handed power bat and clean up hitter more than it needs both Vazquez and Hudson. That is the tough decision Wren will have to make.

Now if they decide to keep both and can sign LaRoche, and fill some bullpen holes, the team can still be very good. But I still think we need a real clean up hitter. If we’re hiding LaRoche in the #7 hole, even if he hits 25-30 homers and hits .270 or so, that would help this team probably get back to the playoffs next year. But it’s not gonna get them over the top to be able to beat somebody like the Phillies or Yankees that have pitching and can also bang.

I would be willing to give up a couple of lower level prospects too probably. I wouldn’t be willing to give up certain prospects to include Schaffer or Medlin. (Of course Heyward and Freeman are no brainers). I would be less likely to do these things for Holliday than Bay or Lee.

McFann :Ô:

September 22nd, 2009
5:26 pm

dogsbrekky maybe my fat heffer of a blue-jay, have not seen him in 2 weeks…

That would be too funny. I s’pose they do fly South…we mostly see them at this time of year and in the winter.

love me and leave me

That’s the way it is with Beggar Ben–he’s here all winter, begging for food; I go out in the freezing rain and snow and everything…come Spring and he’s gone. Can’t even do the decent thing and make his nest in our yard after all I do for him. :roll:

Crows, eh? Hmm…that won’t be too much fun. We get starlings…YUCK!

dogsbrekky

September 22nd, 2009
5:29 pm

Bullpen – I love me some Darren Oliver… woo hoo, guy has been A-ok this yr

Efrim

September 22nd, 2009
5:29 pm

Bullpen pitchers of interest, I’d probably rank Soriano and Gonzo at the top of that list. Valverde too.

trey

September 22nd, 2009
5:29 pm

Wayne we have given Jo-Jo many chances and he can’t win. He has only 5 career victories and that is awful. We need to just drop him from our team its not like we would be wasting money.

nolie

September 22nd, 2009
5:30 pm

Minor had been facing competition roughly equivalent to AA for the past 3 years. Anything less and I’d be disappointed. (PWH)

you’re nuts if you think college ball is anywhere near AA level. More like between low and high A for the most part.

trey

September 22nd, 2009
5:30 pm

Yeah, I have never seen a save where a pitcher has thrown three or more innings so that is actually new to me.

David..(Athens, AL)

September 22nd, 2009
5:35 pm

welcome back Paul L., I must admit I missed your baseball comments. And I agree, there still is a chance for the Braves …. just got to keep on winning … GO BRAVES!

Piedmont Blues

September 22nd, 2009
5:35 pm

trey,

Three-inning saves almost never happen any more. Nor do saves of more than three outs, for that matter.

Nova Scotia Steve -

September 22nd, 2009
5:36 pm

Phillies are 42-24 against the National League East this year.

The only team with a winning record against Philly is the ol Atlanta Braves with a 10-8 record.

PS

Jason Worth is such a good hitter…92 RBI’s this season…for a guy that doesn’t get much of the spot-light in Philly

Nova Scotia Steve -

September 22nd, 2009
5:37 pm

Can anyone explain to me how Kawakami got a save in a 11-3 ballgame?

I was perplexed. 8O

nolie

September 22nd, 2009
5:45 pm

OK, maybe Prado a little, LOL(Scoots)

c’mon man, he’s mini-Esco

David O'Brien

September 22nd, 2009
5:47 pm

BRAVES LINEUP
1. McLouth
2. Prado
3. Chipper
4. McCann
5. Anderson
6. Escobar
7. LaRoche
8. Diaz
9. Jurrjens

METS
1. Pagan, LF
2. Castillo, 2B
3. Wright, 3B
4. Beltran, CF
5. Murphy, 1B
6. Francoeur, RF
7. Schneider, C
8. A. Hernandez, SS
9. Figueroa, RH

Piedmont Blues

September 22nd, 2009
5:47 pm

Nova Scotia Steve,

If you enter a game after the end of the fifth inning with your team leading, pitch three or more innings, don’t surrender the lead, and finish the game, you can get a save.

braves70

September 22nd, 2009
5:48 pm

To qualify for a save, a pitcher:
1. He enters the game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitches for at least one inning
2. He enters the game, regardless of the count, with the potential tying run either on base, at bat or on deck
3. He pitches for at least three innings

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Save_(baseball)

Piedmont Blues

September 22nd, 2009
5:48 pm

Still don’t understand why our best power hitter and run producer is batting 7th.

David O'Brien

September 22nd, 2009
5:51 pm

Nova Scotia, here’s the save rule:

Rule 10.20 credits a pitcher with a save when he meets all three of the following conditions:
(1) He is the finishing pitcher in a game won by his club; and
(2) He is not the winning pitcher; and
(3) He qualifies under one of the following conditions:
(a) He enters the game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitches for at least one inning; or
(b) He enters the game, regardless of the count, with the potential tying run either on base, or at bat, or on deck (that is, the potential tying run is either already on base or is one of the first two batsmen he faces); or
(c) He pitches effectively for at least three innings. No more than one save may be credited in each game.

Wayne in Utah

September 22nd, 2009
5:52 pm

trey and others who would release JoJo Reyes at this point in his development.

Bronson Arroyo (27), Chris Carpenter (29), Randy Johnson (27), Wandy Rodriquez (28), Jamie Moyer (31) and Johan Santana (was younger when he came around, but sucked for 2 years).

This is the ages when these pitchers finally got out of their funk, and started to be productive major league pitchers.

I am NOT saying that JoJo Reyes will ever amount to anything. What I am saying is that many decent major league pitchers took a few years to develop into good hurlers.

Why are you so quick to drop a lefty with a live arm, who we can park and see if he develops.

Too damned much fantasy baseball thinking around here. If he doesn’t get me a win NOW, drop him.

Pete

September 22nd, 2009
5:53 pm

braves70 Wikipedia is incorrect; DOB just posted correct version.

McFann :Ô:

September 22nd, 2009
5:56 pm

Thanks for the lineup, Chief.

Wayne in Utah

September 22nd, 2009
5:58 pm

Piedmont

Agreed on LaRoche. He should be hitting 4th. Our 4-8th hitters are somewhat equal, in many ways. Not a bad problem to have, but we need to take Mac out of the 4th spot, as he does better in the 5/6 position.

Braun would be the perfect #4!

McFann :Ô:

September 22nd, 2009
6:00 pm

Wayne we need to take Mac out of the 4th spot, as he does better in the 5/6 position.

I gotta agree with you there. (Shocker alert. :P )

Steve from OH

September 22nd, 2009
6:00 pm

Still don’t understand why our best power hitter and run producer is batting 7th.

And batting behind GA no less…

Steve from OH

September 22nd, 2009
6:03 pm

Seriously? The Mets are starting guys named Pat Misch and Nelson Figueroa? Things really are bad in Queens, huh?

Good, good…

Wayne in Utah (the anti-Omar)

September 22nd, 2009
6:04 pm

Wait minute! Reyes is NOT white! Why am I defending him ??? Let’s trade him with a few other latinos for a white player.

:-)

Nova Scotia Steve -

September 22nd, 2009
6:09 pm

Well thanks for the info everyone.

I haven’t heard/seen this in a long-long time…I didn’t even know the rule exsisted. I thought it was a typo/mistake when I first saw the stat.

Guess you can learn something new about this game everyday!

Wayne in Utah

September 22nd, 2009
6:10 pm

:evil:
:lol:
:roll:
:oops:
:twisted:
:shock:
:cool:
:mad:
:wink:
:mrgreen:

that was for you, McFann!

Chop Chop

September 22nd, 2009
6:11 pm

Steve,

I get the feeling people said the same thing about the Braves last season. Anyway, I am a firm believer in sports karma, so I’m not going to kick the Mets while they’re down.

southern hope

September 22nd, 2009
6:11 pm

Paul Lentz, I’ve printed out your comment at 4:27 p.m. and am scotch-taping it next to my laptop. A girl’s got to have dreams.

Steve from OH

September 22nd, 2009
6:11 pm

Here’s a fun game:

Pitcher A: 8-6, 4.73 ERA, 4.77 FIP, 5.66 tRA (94 ERA+)
Pitcher B: 11-9, 4.22 ERA, 4.48 FIP, 4.91 tRA (106 ERA+)
Pitcher C: 15-9, 4.55 ERA, 3.78 FIP, 4.37 tRA (91 ERA+)

Not trying to prove a point, just a fun comparison…(ERA + attempt to account for league effects)

nolie

September 22nd, 2009
6:13 pm

Not having a solid starter for the #5 spot is part of what potentially has cost this team a postseason spot this year. (RC)

what? the worst Braves pitcher is better than the #5 of any other NL team and better than most of the #4 starters. I think you need to look for another reason

McFann :Ô:

September 22nd, 2009
6:14 pm

:lol: , Wayne! That’s a lot of faces…and I’ve felt like each and every one of them at some point this season!

njbraves

September 22nd, 2009
6:14 pm

Jo-Jo Reyes will never be a good major league pitcher…the kid is terrible.

Pete

September 22nd, 2009
6:16 pm

Ive posted 4 comments, and only 1 made it. Just me, or anyone else having issues posting comments??

Jesse

September 22nd, 2009
6:16 pm

We’re getting Ryan Braun?! WOW!! I hate to lose Jurrjens, but MAN, Braun is going to give us so much more in the lineup. Who else goes in the trade, or is it just Jurrjens? Thanks… I’m SO excited!!

Steve from OH

September 22nd, 2009
6:17 pm

Jesse–oh buddy, hate to burst your bubble but…

glord1

September 22nd, 2009
6:17 pm

Everyone screaming for a power hitter next year is not understanding one thing. The line up we are playing tonight is a play off team when you add our starting pitching.

The #1 reason this team is not going to the play offs is not because BC abused the bull pen (although he did) or because Chipper has stunk since June (although he has). It is because for over 1/3 of the season we played the game overmatched at the four position player spots.

Lets take a look at what we trotted out there in April, May and part of June. Francouer, Johnson, Schafer, Kotchman and pitcher hitting 5-9 killed our season. We really could only score in half of the innings in every game played early this season.

If we resign Laroche and substitute Hayward (he only has to give us 15 ht 65 rbi and a 750 OPS)for GA plus the current line up I like our chances. You give me that line up plus add Hudson to the rotation and I would not be surprised to see 95 wins next year.

Chop Chop

September 22nd, 2009
6:17 pm

nolie,

You cost us a postseason spot this year.

(Okay, okay. Don’t get bent out of shape. It was either you or MariettaDerek. You lost the coin flip.)

Chop Chop

September 22nd, 2009
6:18 pm

DP to the C, baby.

The magic is back.

Jesse

September 22nd, 2009
6:20 pm

Steve from OH– what do you mean? But, they said on here that Jurrjens and Prado, I think, to Milwaukee for Braun. If they’re teasing me then shame on them! What a dirty, cruel trick to play on a 11 year old kid like me!

Wayne in Utah

September 22nd, 2009
6:21 pm

njbraves

A conversation heard in the Burger Queen where you work about 5 years ago: “Man, that kid is terrible. He will NEVER be a good frenchy fryer. Let’s drop him from the Burger Queen Team NOW!!”

Now, aren’t you glad they didn’t give up on you so quickly! Now, you are the 3rd best fry man on the team!!!

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
6:22 pm

Who else goes in the trade, or is it just Jurrjens?

I think I read that McCann, Hanson, and Norton were also included.

Jesse

September 22nd, 2009
6:22 pm

hehehe, Steve from Oh said, “I hate to burst your bubble butt”…. hehehe! Bubble butt. hehehehe! :lol:

HoCoJo

September 22nd, 2009
6:26 pm

DOB

Are you wearing your SWAT Team tee shirt tonight?

Just kidding.

nolie

September 22nd, 2009
6:32 pm

nolie,

You cost us a postseason spot this year. (CHOP)

sounds about right, I never was a believer that they would get there so it likely is my fault. :(

cabravesfan

September 22nd, 2009
6:32 pm

I think I read that McCann, Hanson, and Norton were also included.

All that for Ryan Braun?? You think they’d settle for JJ, Mac and Hanson? Not sure I’d part with Norton…

richbrave

September 22nd, 2009
6:32 pm

LF 2010:

Option 1 – MATT HOLLIDAY – 18 million per more or less, or-r-r-r-r

Option 2 – JASON BAY – 11 million per more or less or-r-r-r-r

Option 3- BOBBY ABREU – 6 million more or less or-r-r-r-r

Option 4 – Resurrect WES COVINGTON’s ghost.

Chop Chop

September 22nd, 2009
6:34 pm

nolie,

They’ve made the postseason in our hearts. That’s all that matters.

richbrave

September 22nd, 2009
6:35 pm

WAYNE IN UTAH:

Dude, long time no post. Wha’ ‘zup?

Chop Chop

September 22nd, 2009
6:35 pm

I’d trade any Niners and/or USC fans for Ryan Braun.

cabravesfan

September 22nd, 2009
6:36 pm

Chop Chop-

you’d miss me :D

Goldenglove002

September 22nd, 2009
6:39 pm

You know who I’d really like to see the Braves go after once the main issues are settled, Kelvim Escobar. He’ll be looking for a minor league contract and coming back as a reliever.

fastasballs

September 22nd, 2009
6:40 pm

“Option 2 – JASON BAY – 11 million per more or less or-r-r-r-r”

Better add about 4 million to that figure or more.

Vinings Jim

September 22nd, 2009
6:46 pm

cabravesfan – go home, damn it!

Vinings Jim

September 22nd, 2009
6:47 pm

but not sticking up for your football choices…

Vinings Jim

September 22nd, 2009
6:48 pm

Apparently Fred and Ron don’t understand that the blog wisdom is that signing Chipper was a major disaster…

P. W. Hjort

September 22nd, 2009
6:49 pm

I’d rather have Holliday than Bay.

richbrave

September 22nd, 2009
6:52 pm

Four innings of relief evidently gets you a save irrespective of the score.

BravesFanChris24

September 22nd, 2009
6:54 pm

Here’s a lineup I’d like to see if LaRoche isn’t resigned….

1. Nate McLouth CF
2. Martin Prado 1B
3. Chipper Jones 3B
4. Cleanup Hitter LF
5. Brian McCann C
6. Yunel Escobar SS
7. Dan Uggla 2B
8. Diaz/Heyward RF

If cleanup type LF is not gotten….

1. Nate McLouth CF
2. Martin Prado 1B
3. Chipper Jones 3B
4. Dan Uggla/Yunel Escobar 2B/SS
5. Brian McCann C
6. Dan Uggla/Yunel Escobar 2B/SS
7. Matt Diaz LF
8. Jason Heyward RF

If Marlins are seriously considering dealing Uggla in off season, if they’d take say KJ and a few pitching prospects for him (since he’d be a salary dump).

cabravesfan

September 22nd, 2009
6:55 pm

VJ-

I’m leaving…not all of us get to set our own hours, you know ;)

(as for the football choices- seeing as how I am 28-4 in two weeks and you…aren’t, I’m not sure I need you to stick up for me :D )

dogsbrekky

September 22nd, 2009
6:56 pm

I started the trade JJ, KJ and Prado for braun thingy, but I got it from an ATL FO mate… still Brew Crew said eff off sonny Jim….

Bay is good but seriously the dude wants >>> $15 pa for long term and Holliday they want Tex money…….. lol lol lol

Chop Chop

September 22nd, 2009
6:57 pm

Gotta figure that Diaz will be the fourth outfielder next season. He’ll be an overpaid fourth outfielder, though. Maybe trading Diaz would be a good move? Yep. I’d trade him. He’ll turn 32 in March. He could be an everyday starter for a mediocre club. Find one of those clubs that has something that fits a pressing need and, BOOM!, make a deal.

Hell yeah.

I like making a deal that includes pyrotechnics.

BOOM!

That gives me goosebumps, man.

Jesse

September 22nd, 2009
6:58 pm

dogsbrekky- JERK!

dogsbrekky

September 22nd, 2009
6:59 pm

Chop – The only way I see us trading Capt, Caveman is if we get Peter Perfect, Dick Dastardley and wait for it……..

my personal favorite……… “The ARKANSAS Chug a Bug”…………..

glord1

September 22nd, 2009
7:00 pm

No way Holliday or Bay is comint to Atlanta. With Hayward coming and Diaz producing they dont need to over pay. Got to get a 1B with pop and some relief help. Like to see Vazquez and/or Hudson signed to an extension.

Nova Scotia Steve -

September 22nd, 2009
7:01 pm

Kelvim Escobar = No

dogsbrekky

September 22nd, 2009
7:03 pm

Jesse – I resemble those comments but for the record a friend in the front office told me about the Braun trade idea… personally I would NOT trade JJ straight up for Braun.. (dude is weird looking)

TnBrian(Vazquez ace 2010)

September 22nd, 2009
7:03 pm

Francoeur fixin to talk about his new found love, the Mutts.

Piedmont Blues

September 22nd, 2009
7:04 pm

How bout that … Chris Chambliss is calling the AAA championship game. He’s a guy I wouldn’t mind seeing back in the Braves dugout again …

TnBrian(Vazquez ace 2010)

September 22nd, 2009
7:05 pm

Bug Eyed Braun… :shock:

German Lady

September 22nd, 2009
7:07 pm

If Francoeur isn’t worried about his OBP or his average…what is he worried about?

Wayne in Utah

September 22nd, 2009
7:08 pm

richbrave

Besides my f/t job, I am helping my wife with a startup opportunity and also I have taken over my investment portfolio (I figure I can’t screw it up any worse than they have!) for fun. Been darned busy. Taking a bit of time off tonight though.

Add to your list Xavier Nady???? He would be a poor man’s version of Bay/Holliday.

Personally, I think the Braves prefer to trade for help. When you go the FA route for major talent, you always overpay (see Derek Lowe).

What say ye?

Poopy Pants

September 22nd, 2009
7:08 pm

Not sure if this has been asked yet, but does anyone have access to ESPN Insider and mind posting the story posted this morning titled “”Next in line after Cox”? I would much indebted to you for a lifetime.

Wayne in Utah

September 22nd, 2009
7:10 pm

dogsbrekky

We need more weird looking players, if that’s what it takes to get somebody like Ryan Braun.

I was wondering if he might be a bit on the outs with Milwaukee, due to his being critical of the team earlier this summer???

David O'Brien

September 22nd, 2009
7:10 pm

Other than his 3-for-21 stretch over a two-week period when he was dealing with the headaches and sat out a week, Prado has been one of the Braves’ two or three steadiest, most productive hitters since June 30, the day he got four hits and won an everyday lineup spot.

Since getting his legs back under him or his mind cleared or whatever — since ending that funk — he’s hit .303 with 10 extra-base hits and 10 RBI in his past 22 games.

From June 30 until now, with the two-week slump/rest included, here’s what he’s done: 67 games, .313 (85-for-272), 21 doubles, 7 homers, 39 RBI, .350 OBP, .467 slugging, .817 OPS.

Vinings Jim

September 22nd, 2009
7:12 pm

cabravesfan – that was amazingly obnoxious, my love

Choppinmama

September 22nd, 2009
7:12 pm

Love to see Matty get some well-deserved props from the Blogmeister. He has hung in there, played off the bench, in and out for lefty pitching, now has really gained the confidence of the Skipper and has a daily spot in the outfield. And he’s such a SWEET guy!

But, we need to come up with a new nickname. Capt. Caveman by rights belongs to Johnny Damon. Matt needs a unique nickname. Let’s try again……….asking for suggestions…..

What about “Wally” for the night he ran plumb into the outfield wall?
You guys have something better?

Goldenglove002

September 22nd, 2009
7:13 pm

Los Mets? what the heck?

dogsbrekky

September 22nd, 2009
7:13 pm

Thanks Dobi – I love Prado and I say that with a long history (allegedly) of HETERO-sexuality

then again I love Infante and McCann as well

Chop Chop

September 22nd, 2009
7:14 pm

It’s a regurgitation of Mark Bradley’s column about the same subject, Poopy Pants.

glord1

September 22nd, 2009
7:14 pm

Wayne – I agree. If Nady is healthy and his market drops down to 6-7 mil he would be a steal and perfect fit for the Braves. It seems like I remember him playing some 1B.

Chop Chop

September 22nd, 2009
7:15 pm

Goldenglove002,

I believe the term is “F**k the heck?”

Chop Chop

September 22nd, 2009
7:15 pm

That’s enough commenting from me. Enjoy the win, folks.

Poopy Pants

September 22nd, 2009
7:15 pm

Chop, Chop– So they just copy and pasted Mark Bradley’s article? Or did they make any new suggestions?

Choppinmama

September 22nd, 2009
7:18 pm

Francoeur looked positively thrilled talking about going to “plays” with Catie on Sat and Sun afternoons, didn’t he?

Mitchell

September 22nd, 2009
7:18 pm

Why is Chipper batting third?

I don’t care about the homerun. Why not Diaz, LaRoche, then McCann and so on?

He should be batting 8th. Mix it up Bobby.

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
7:21 pm

Good evening, Braves fans. Lets see if we can take game 2, why don’t we?

WTF was that pitch?

Mitchell

September 22nd, 2009
7:23 pm

Too easy.

Let’s get some runs.

German Lady

September 22nd, 2009
7:24 pm

I’ll never forget the start Jurrjens made last year at Shea where he really showed what he was made of. He walked in 3 runs in one inning, kept his cool, and was perfect every other inning he pitched and got the win.

Gov Clinton Tyree

September 22nd, 2009
7:24 pm

dogsbrekky, I wouldn’t move Jurrjens for anybody in the league. Except…maybe…Braun.

Very interesting idea. Might make sense for the Brewers, too.

Chop Chop

September 22nd, 2009
7:26 pm

No new suggestions, Poopy Pants. Just a regurgitation of the column. That’s what we ESPN Insiders pay the big bucks for.

McFann :Ô:

September 22nd, 2009
7:26 pm

AAAAAAAHHGG!!!

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
7:26 pm

UN FRIGGIN BELIEVABLE!!!!

Its been 1.1 inning and the Braves STILL have not scored!!

Gov Clinton Tyree

September 22nd, 2009
7:27 pm

Roachie is going to be more than $7m. And he wants at least three years. Although I’m not keen on the third year, I might do it…or I might do a mutual option for the third year, see if he’ll bite…and I think he’ll cost more like 8 or 9mil.

He’s a perfect fit for the club, if we get a RH cleanup hitting leftfielder.

nolie

September 22nd, 2009
7:27 pm

Between scoring all those runs last night and the way we usually gave JJ little support, will we get shut out tonight??

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
7:28 pm

1.2 INNINGS!!! AND NO RUNS!!!

Gov Clinton Tyree

September 22nd, 2009
7:28 pm

Oh, and whoever said Jason Bay $11m is on crack. I think it’ll take $15m, maybe more. I could stand either him or Holliday.

Nova Scotia Steve -

September 22nd, 2009
7:28 pm

Re: bravesgrl4life

“Good evening, Braves fans. Lets see if we can take game 2, why don’t we?

WTF was that pitch?”

hilarious…

McFann :Ô:

September 22nd, 2009
7:28 pm

Tied his career-high… :( (Sorry, nolie.)

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
7:29 pm

2 INNINGS AND NO RUNS!

McFann :Ô:

September 22nd, 2009
7:29 pm

This is boring!!

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
7:33 pm

Agreed, McFann. Come on guys, get some runs behind JJ.

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
7:34 pm

Uh oh, McFann – you gonna go kick some Murphy behind over that one?

McFann =Ô=

September 22nd, 2009
7:34 pm

Mixxo

September 22nd, 2009
7:35 pm

Jammed wrist Fanny! 8O

Mixxo

September 22nd, 2009
7:36 pm

Lightnin’ Loaf!

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
7:36 pm

Good play Loaf!

Logan

September 22nd, 2009
7:37 pm

Eight straight innings without a hit?

RHR

September 22nd, 2009
7:37 pm

Welp, Matty D gonna go 0′fer tonight. :lol:

McFann =Ô=

September 22nd, 2009
7:38 pm

bravesgrl4life

I got a good mind to! BMac appears to be OK, though…But as you cann see, it did scare Rally.

Mixxo–

Yeah… 8O Hopefully it’s nothing…

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
7:39 pm

RHR, are you trying reverse psychology?

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
7:40 pm

3.1 INNINGS WITHOUT A RUN!!

Wayne in Utah

September 22nd, 2009
7:40 pm

McFann

Don’t worry. Mac ain’t as fragile as some other Braves!

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
7:41 pm

I mean 2.2…

Wayne in Utah

September 22nd, 2009
7:42 pm

Mac laughs at 71 mph curveballs to his body parts!

Scott

September 22nd, 2009
7:42 pm

Wow, Joe Simpson just said: “benevolent.”

Those night classes must really be paying off.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
7:43 pm

JJ broke up the Mets perfect game…

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
7:44 pm

This is ridiculous! NO RUNS!?!

C’mon Guys!!

McFann :Ô:

September 22nd, 2009
7:45 pm

Wayne

That’s for sure! Just ask JJ…

Mixxo

September 22nd, 2009
7:47 pm

Roachy?

CCR?

Why I nevah……

Wayne in Utah

September 22nd, 2009
7:48 pm

Gotta run. Go Braves!!!

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
7:55 pm

I’m mad that Sheffield is not in the Lineup!

I don’t get to hear my “Hear I Go!” by Mystikal Blasting on the P.A…One of the Best Rap songs of the 90’s!

This Game Bores me, I’m gonna watch some old “Salute Your Shorts” On Youtube

Vinings Jim

September 22nd, 2009
7:57 pm

Get Kawakami back up!

Mixxo

September 22nd, 2009
7:57 pm

JJ ain’t got it, go get him Bobby! :mad:

TnBrian(Vazquez ace 2010)

September 22nd, 2009
7:59 pm

Alright, just give that Figueroa the Cy Young already! He is some kinda pitcher, huh?

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
8:01 pm

McCann sucks…

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
8:02 pm

COME ON BMAC!!! I’m calling for a 3-fer :)

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
8:03 pm

Okay, we’ll take it.

P. W. Hjort

September 22nd, 2009
8:03 pm

Anyone know the answer to the trivia question? Driving me nuts. It’s not Dave Kingman, he only did it with 3 teams.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
8:03 pm

Alright, just give that Figueroa the Cy Young already! He is some kinda pitcher, huh?

I remember back in ‘97 when he threw back to back to back to back perfect games…

McFann :Ô:

September 22nd, 2009
8:03 pm

What the heck? I wanted a double!!

I don’t want you to leave this series without hitting at least one double.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
8:04 pm

McCann making a productive out?

Thats new to me…

TnBrian(Vazquez ace 2010)

September 22nd, 2009
8:05 pm

The Cuban Assasin drives ‘em in

Jim

September 22nd, 2009
8:05 pm

I thought it was Kingman too until I went and looked it up.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
8:05 pm

3.2 INNINGS WITH OUT A RUN!!

Jim

September 22nd, 2009
8:05 pm

I thought it was Kingman too until I went and looked it up.

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
8:05 pm

YUNI!!!!!!!!!

cricket

September 22nd, 2009
8:07 pm

Once again, there’s the guy who should’ve been hitting 4th all along

David O'Brien

September 22nd, 2009
8:07 pm

Escobar’s still hitting .388 in 121 at-bats with RISP. Wow.

TnBrian(Vazquez ace 2010)

September 22nd, 2009
8:07 pm

PWHjort, what was the question?

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
8:08 pm

What is the Triva Question?

It is always someone in the ballpark, folks…

David O'Brien

September 22nd, 2009
8:09 pm

McCann left game with contusion of left wrist

kirkinga

September 22nd, 2009
8:09 pm

Thank goodness for Escobar.

TnBrian(Vazquez ace 2010)

September 22nd, 2009
8:10 pm

cricket, what, you want a guy hitting near .400 with RISP batting cleanup? How come Bobby hadn’t thought of that.

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
8:10 pm

Damn, Murphy. No doubles for BMAC tonight, I guess. Ready for that flight to NY, McFann?

Gov Clinton Tyree

September 22nd, 2009
8:11 pm

Why, the guy with 30 HRs with five different teams was Fred McGriff, of course.

The Crime Dog.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
8:11 pm

I’d rather have Yunel hit 5th or 6th…

TnBrian(Vazquez ace 2010)

September 22nd, 2009
8:11 pm

JJ, if you keep this up I’m going to start calling you Walk A Day JJ.

David O'Brien

September 22nd, 2009
8:12 pm

By the way, speaking of hitting with runners in scoring position (we were, or I was, about Escobar), hitting with RISP is something that Francoeur is doing a little better this year, but still not well at all.

He was a horrendous 34-for-177 (.192) with RISP last season, which was a whole lot of at-bats with RISP for a guy with such a low average in those spot. But that’s because he stayed in the middle of the order most of the season.

He’s hit .235 (40-for-170) with RISP this season.

Gov Clinton Tyree

September 22nd, 2009
8:12 pm

Do their jerseys say “Los Mets”??

McFann :Ô:

September 22nd, 2009
8:12 pm

NOOOO!! No! No! No! Nooooo!!

McFann =Ô=

September 22nd, 2009
8:13 pm

bravesgrl4life

Yeah! Gotta get me a ticket. :cry:

Bobby's Cox

September 22nd, 2009
8:14 pm

Anyone still believe? I do.

Gov Clinton Tyree

September 22nd, 2009
8:14 pm

It is McGriff. Toronto, SD, Atl, Tampa, and one nice season for the Cubs.

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
8:14 pm

I’ll go as your chaperone, McFann. I’d like a piece of Murphy myself.

kirkinga

September 22nd, 2009
8:15 pm

Don’t worry McFann, McCann is tougher than others, I’m sure he’ll be back playing real soon.

Jim

September 22nd, 2009
8:15 pm

Way to go Jeff.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
8:16 pm

Do their jerseys say “Los Mets”??

Yes. Its Spanish History Month… I think thats why, I have no idea though…
Maybe they’ve started a mutiny from within their organization…
No wait. Their Manager and GM are Mexican right?

TnBrian(Vazquez ace 2010)

September 22nd, 2009
8:16 pm

On that question, Dave Justice might not be a bad answer. But I think he played with 4 teams, so.

Gov Clinton Tyree

September 22nd, 2009
8:17 pm

Well, Francoeur seems better. Hopefully he resurrects his career there. .822 OPS now.

He sure was pitiful here.

Gov Clinton Tyree

September 22nd, 2009
8:17 pm

No, Brian, I am certain it is McGriff.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
8:18 pm

My favorite monikers are “Bobby’s Cox” “Kelly’s Johnson” and “Tiger’s Wodd”

Gov Clinton Tyree

September 22nd, 2009
8:19 pm

Thanks, Jurrjens4. I thought maybe Omar had really gone around the bend on his Latino love…maybe we can get David Wright for cheap.

TnBrian(Vazquez ace 2010)

September 22nd, 2009
8:20 pm

I’d have never thought McGriff hit 30 HR with TB/Chi. Wasn’t he like old then?

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
8:20 pm

That was a trick question :evil:

Gov Clinton Tyree

September 22nd, 2009
8:20 pm

Doesn’t Figueroa look like Posada’s younger brother?

Robroy

September 22nd, 2009
8:21 pm

How about Sheffield? How many teams did he hit 30 home runs for?

P. W. Hjort

September 22nd, 2009
8:21 pm

It was who player other than Gary Sheffield has 30+ homers with 5 different teams. The answer is Fred McGriff. I’m embarrassed I didn’t get it.

Salt life

September 22nd, 2009
8:22 pm

Hearing all the jets flying over the field………..I hate landing (and taking off) from LaGuardia……. Scares the shike outta me.

Gov Clinton Tyree

September 22nd, 2009
8:22 pm

Brian, he had a bit of a resurgence when he left. His last year here, he didn’t hit 20 and we let him go. Actually had three or four more 30 HR seasons, one of which he was traded midseason to the Cubs, I believe.

I was surprised he surged, ’cause he looked finished when he left here.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
8:23 pm

Thanks, Jurrjens4. I thought maybe Omar had really gone around the bend on his Latino love…maybe we can get David Wright for cheap.

Lol…
They had an assembly at my school for Mexican Heritage… whatever, and They had this “bilingual rapper” :roll: And he goes, “Can we turn the music off during this song? I want the audience to be able to understand me…”

And then he raps the entire song in Spanish…

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
8:24 pm

TnBrian

Mcgriff was old but it was the steroid era, I’m not accusing The Crime dog of roids but he hit a gang of his homeruns off pitchers that were on PED’s, which supports my theory that pitchers used PED’s a hella lot more than position players

DOB's blog in the offseason

September 22nd, 2009
8:24 pm

Salt life

September 22nd, 2009
8:24 pm

Enter your commeGreat grammar….. I’m not even drunk….. Yetnts here

Gov Clinton Tyree

September 22nd, 2009
8:25 pm

Gov Clinton Tyree

September 22nd, 2009
8:26 pm

I think McGriff should go to the Hall because he hit almost 500 HRs clean. And the pitchers weren’t clean.

McFann =Ô=

September 22nd, 2009
8:28 pm

bravesgrl4life

Alrighty, then! Sounds like a plan…

kirkinga

Yeah, he is tough…he plays through a lot of bruises.

I’m sure he’ll be back playing real soon.

I hope so–’cause Pelfrey is pitching tomorrow! He has to be able to go against Pelfrey! :(

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
8:28 pm

Gov, according to Wikipedia, McGriff was 7 shy of 500.

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
8:28 pm

Jurrigens4NLCY

No Offense dude and this isn’t directed at you, but It is a Pet Peeve of mine when Mainstream/The Pop American Mantra to assume any dude who looks Hispanic to assume that they are Mexican…

Not Every person who is hispanic is from Mexico…Go to S. Florida and you will lose that stereotype that floods mainstream/pop culture America in todays society…

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
8:28 pm

Enter your commeGreat grammar….. I’m not even drunk….. Yetnts here

I’m not sure you’d pass a breathalizer

Robroy

September 22nd, 2009
8:29 pm

Thanks PW! didn’t here the whole question.

Daybed Wagmoe

September 22nd, 2009
8:32 pm

DOB – Just saw on my email list-serve from The Bowery Ballroom in NYC that James McMurtry’s playing there tomorrow night.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
8:32 pm

Tomahawkin,

I know. And I’m not like that, but I live in a state where politically correctness is shoved down your throat, and I wanted to vent a little…

I but do think Manuel and Omaya are mexican…

Roja

September 22nd, 2009
8:32 pm

Nothing like a hitting coach to help an ex-Brave — any ex-Brave.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
8:34 pm

David Ross is sooo great! =)

David O'Brien

September 22nd, 2009
8:34 pm

Did you guys (and girls) realize the Braves are 41-35 on the road this season? Sixth-best in majors.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
8:35 pm

This ump is the same as the one against ARZ…

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
8:36 pm

Manuel’s American. And I think Minaya’s Dominican.

Nurse Cratchet

September 22nd, 2009
8:36 pm

Enter your comments here and wait your turn. Raise your hand to speak and wait until you are called on. What happened to the dice?

kirkinga

September 22nd, 2009
8:37 pm

McFann, I think the only thing that could keep him out right now is Bobby Cox. I have no doubt he wants to play and will play with pain.

richbrave

September 22nd, 2009
8:37 pm

The inning wqe savage MR. FIGEROA has arrived.

Gov Clinton Tyree

September 22nd, 2009
8:37 pm

Omar is a Portoriccan

David O'Brien

September 22nd, 2009
8:37 pm

Daybed: Another reason I hate the Mets for having a night game in the series finale. McMurtry at the Bowery Ballroom would be excellent (of course, McMurty in any venue is excellent). But I’ll be out here in Flushing until 11 p.m. or midnight, unfortunately.

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
8:38 pm

Woah (or whoa if you’re Random)

Check out Bradley’s new article: Is there tension between Cox and Wren?

http://bit.ly/KDDnd

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
8:38 pm

Jurrigens4NLCY

Cool Bro!

I was venting as well. I lived in Arkansas for 10 years and everyone assumes that all hispanics are from Mexico

I also lived in Ft Liquordale for a year which made me realize that all people who look hispanic are not “Mexicans”

Nuff Respect Bro…!

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
8:39 pm

What happened to this blog?

Before when you clicked the comment box the, “Enter your comments here.” would go away…
Now you have to delete it, and its resulted in posts starting with “Enter your …”

Salt life

September 22nd, 2009
8:39 pm

JeffreyD……. Yeah, I’m not doin’ too well….. I’ll be glad when iget a computer….. The iPhone doesn’t work well for posting……. I only text at this place…….. But to your point, I’d say you know what you’re talking about.

McFann =Ô=

September 22nd, 2009
8:41 pm

Nice one, David. :lol:

Jim

September 22nd, 2009
8:42 pm

KJ and Uggla make about the same this year – and have about the same amount of ML experience. So, a trade would likely include a bit more from our side going down to the Fish.

Choppinmama

September 22nd, 2009
8:43 pm

Oh great! Now it looks like Yunel will enjoy some enforced “rest” on the bench with BMac now. Grabbing at your leg after a swing at the plate can’t be good.

McFann =Ô=

September 22nd, 2009
8:43 pm

kirknga

I agree.

I mean, obviously I wouldn’t want him to play if he wasn’t gonna be able to (as he would say) “swing the bat”, but man! I’ve been waiting for this Pelfrey thing!

It’s like when they got to face Ian Snell back in April–BMac was half-blind so he wasn’t able to take full advantage of the match-up. (And now Ian’s in the AL. :( )

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
8:44 pm

I’m just saying…when you’re trying to claim you’re not drunk in the middle of the “Enter your comments here” text, you’re not making a strong case.

McFann =Ô=

September 22nd, 2009
8:44 pm

Jurrjens4NLCY

Dunno what’s up with that…but it’s annoying.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
8:44 pm

Jeffrey D,

Thats just Bradley stirring up the pot…

Yunel Escobar

September 22nd, 2009
8:45 pm

Mendjs’ fyg hedc inrfdsk ascoew iquwdbn. Wxirnvbge opws Bobby Cox si, uhhhhh, donk.

Blue

September 22nd, 2009
8:45 pm

Jurrjens is getting squeezed!!!!!!

Vinings Jim

September 22nd, 2009
8:46 pm

jeffrey d – entering a late discussion, I have seen whoa hundreds of times – woah only from you

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
8:46 pm

Minaya’s not “portoriccan.” He is Dominican…I checked. He moved to NY when he was 8.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
8:47 pm

Anyone else want Aaron Miles?

richbrave

September 22nd, 2009
8:47 pm

Oh fudge. Well, we’ll get him next time. He’s at 106 pitches. JJ’s at 68.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
8:48 pm

Jurrjens is getting squeezed!!!!!!

Nope. Air pressure is fine here, bro.

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
8:48 pm

Well it’s too late for me to change now.

And Bradley was just responding to a report from Yahoo! Sports that said there was tension between Bobby and Wren. He said that Wren claims it’s not true.

Choppinmama

September 22nd, 2009
8:48 pm

Talked with some neighbors today from my old Woodstock neighborhood. We had a small creek at the back of our houses that flowed about 1/4 mile into Allatoona that they were calling a “raging torrent” now. Said the erosion in the backyards was awful.

On the bad, icy days, I used to hate making the decision whether or not to try to get to work off I-75 in Marietta. I guess some of you folks have had to make the decision about driving, not floating to work lately. Stay safe you guys.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
8:49 pm

Anyone else realize JJ is the staff ace?
I do…

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
8:49 pm

Now LETS GET SOME RUNS!!!!!!!

David O'Brien

September 22nd, 2009
8:50 pm

Diaz was well-positioned (deep) on that one fly ball. Good for JJ.

Salt life

September 22nd, 2009
8:52 pm

jeffreyD…… the “enter your ……” doesn’t usually stay embedded, but I’ll own the mistype. Hey, it’s the 7th and we haven’t had a pitching change? WTF Bobby?

Gov Clinton Tyree

September 22nd, 2009
8:52 pm

Yeah, me. Jurrjens is totally underrated. He could have won 17-20 games both years. Got another gear on his fastball when he needs it. Throws 95. 95!! Sinker, slider, cutter, rider, change. Everything has quick movement. Poise, durability, confidence. Has a real feel for pitching.

He’s a joy to watch.

Steve from OH

September 22nd, 2009
8:52 pm

Oh, I guess I didn’t reveal the identities of pitchers A. B, and C–Joba Chamberlain, A.J. Burnett, and Derek Lowe…

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
8:53 pm

That looked like it hit the ground…

Ed Kotch

September 22nd, 2009
8:53 pm

Welcome to Yew Nork

P. W. Hjort

September 22nd, 2009
8:54 pm

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
8:54 pm

Yeah you have to delete the “Enter your comments” now.

But on the plus side, has anybody noticed that when you refresh it’ll take you to the most current comment, as opposed to taking you through a trip in time?

David O'Brien

September 22nd, 2009
8:54 pm

Mets have had only two runners reach second base, both in the third inning

Couch Tater

September 22nd, 2009
8:54 pm

Should Anders post as Andorio now that the Mets are the Los Mets?

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
8:55 pm

That was definitely a strike

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
8:55 pm

wth is portoriccan?

And, more importantly what happened to Mac?

David O'Brien

September 22nd, 2009
8:55 pm

X-rays negative on Mac, which is of course positive.

Bone bruise on his left hand, day-to-day

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
8:56 pm

Has anybody noted the correlation between Diaz’s 0-fer and DOB’s title yet?

P. W. Hjort

September 22nd, 2009
8:56 pm

I knew B was Burnett and C was Lowe. Never would’ve thought Joba would be grouped with the two.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
8:56 pm

as opposed to taking you through a trip in time?

Aww. How I miss those little diddys…

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
8:57 pm

SD 2 – 0 on COL…

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
8:57 pm

Soph – He got hit in the hand with a foul ball. X rays are negative, which of course is positive. He’s got a bone bruise on his left hand, but he’s day-to-day.

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
8:57 pm

what an at-bat for JJ. Not usual for a pitcher. Oh well, it was nice while it lasted.

McFann =Ô=

September 22nd, 2009
8:58 pm

Soph And, more importantly what happened to Mac?

Daniel Murphy fouled a ball off BMac’s left wrist in the second inning. He stayed in the game and bunted in the fourth, but came out after that. He fouled one off before the bunt and made a face like it hurt to swing, so apparently that’s why he laid down a bunt.

:(

Tiger Woods

September 22nd, 2009
8:59 pm

Padres up on Rockies 2-0 in the first. GO BRAVES!!!!

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
8:59 pm

Two runs in 7 inning is still pathetic….

Abbie Normal

September 22nd, 2009
8:59 pm

Salt life

September 22nd, 2009
8:59 pm

Couch tater…..si.

David O'Brien

September 22nd, 2009
8:59 pm

That was a 12-pitch at-bat, with eight foul balls

Steve from OH

September 22nd, 2009
8:59 pm

Couch Tater–yeah, I noticed the “Los Mets” sign. LOL!

McFann =Ô=

September 22nd, 2009
8:59 pm

BONE BRUISE?? DANGIT!!

I hate those! :(

Tiger Woods

September 22nd, 2009
9:00 pm

Check that 2-1 now.

Choppinmama

September 22nd, 2009
9:00 pm

I wonder if these guys even LOOK at sunflower seeds during the off season?

Innocent Bystander

September 22nd, 2009
9:00 pm

Figueroa is at 126 pitches on the night. (73 S, 53 B)

McFann =Ô=

September 22nd, 2009
9:01 pm

Choppinmama

LOL…seriously…

richbrave

September 22nd, 2009
9:01 pm

Way to finish him off JAIR. 126 pitches – 12 pitch AB. Tough out all night. Let’s go BRAVES.

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
9:01 pm

Yikes. McFann, did you throw something at the tv when it happened? I was going to ask if you passed out but of course your 8:58 & 8:59 answered that question. :-)

Roja

September 22nd, 2009
9:01 pm

Figueroa threw 126 pitches. Good thing he isn’t a Brave or his arm would have fallen off mid-inning.

Steve from OH

September 22nd, 2009
9:02 pm

Oh sh#t, it’s on their uniforms, too…no wonder. LOL!

(I’m just tuning in, in case you’re wondering)

NO MORE BOBBY

September 22nd, 2009
9:02 pm

Diaz is going to say all those nice things about Bobby because he knows if Cox leaves, a new manager most likely won’t be playing him as much. Of course he wants Bobby to stay.

Just wait until a new manager shows up and sparks these guys. I get the feeling some of them won’t make the cut playing Bobby style ball with whoever takes over.

Steve from OH

September 22nd, 2009
9:02 pm

Figueroa threw 126 pitches. Good thing he isn’t a Brave or his arm would have fallen off mid-inning.

Have you no brain, or are you just really bad at drawing parallels?

kirkinga

September 22nd, 2009
9:03 pm

Bone bruise on his left hand, day-to-day

Those bruises can be tricky. I think Beltran missed a bunch of games with what they called a bone bruise.
Well at least we don’t lose anything defensively with Ross.

Roja

September 22nd, 2009
9:03 pm

Two runs would be good enough if we had a decent bullpen.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
9:03 pm

JJ should go at least 8 innings….
Maybe 9 unless Moylan pitches the 9th….

McFann =Ô=

September 22nd, 2009
9:03 pm

Darn that Murphy…

Soph

Came close to both! Man…and it was just getting good. Was really hoping for 100 RBI. Still not impossible, but gonna be harder now…cann still get 40 doubles, though.

Roja

September 22nd, 2009
9:04 pm

I mean, we’ve scored 10 and lost!! We’ve had 6 run leads and lost for heaven’s sake.

Vinings Jim

September 22nd, 2009
9:04 pm

Amazingly stupid incoherence…

cabravesfan

September 22nd, 2009
9:04 pm

VJ-

Sorry! Not my intention at all :)

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
9:04 pm

Two runs would be good enough if we had a decent bullpen.

Two runs is never enough…

Vinings Jim

September 22nd, 2009
9:05 pm

cabravesfan – you are forgiven

Ralph Lauren

September 22nd, 2009
9:05 pm

If you do happened to get Cox fired, would somebody put in a good word for me and let me design the Braves a new uniform?

Tiger Woods

September 22nd, 2009
9:05 pm

Rockies up 4-2 bottom 1st. That was a short lived lead by the Padres.

Roja

September 22nd, 2009
9:06 pm

126 pitches used to be a good day’s work. Now 6 innings and 90 pitches is

kirkinga

September 22nd, 2009
9:07 pm

Dumb play by Escobar, no doubt about that one.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
9:07 pm

Could the camera man zoom any farther in LaRoche?

Blue

September 22nd, 2009
9:07 pm

WHAT IS ESCOBAR DOING?!?!?!

P. W. Hjort

September 22nd, 2009
9:07 pm

This inning has gotten completely silly.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
9:07 pm

Clearly Jeff thought B-Mac was behind the plate…

Mixxo

September 22nd, 2009
9:07 pm

Ballgame!

I’m getting really tired of saying that too, dangit! :mad:

Steve from OH

September 22nd, 2009
9:07 pm

126 pitches used to be a good day’s work. Now 6 innings and 90 pitches is

Still not seein’ it, huh?

Roja

September 22nd, 2009
9:08 pm

With this bullpen, 6 runs isn’t enough. 7 or 8 runs isn’t enough at times.

Steve from OH

September 22nd, 2009
9:08 pm

Yunel…Dios mio…

[facepalm]

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
9:08 pm

Dumbass Esco, TAKE HIM OUT BOBBY!!

Mixxo

September 22nd, 2009
9:09 pm

Rockies = the NL equivalent to My Yankees.

Unstoppable!!!

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
9:09 pm

Oh thank god! I thought Ross lost that…

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
9:09 pm

Whew! Great job, JJ, to make up for the bonehead move by Yunel. Good thing Yunel drove in the two runs we have or Bobby would most defintely pull him.

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
9:09 pm

That’s right, Jair! Good job.

kirkinga

September 22nd, 2009
9:10 pm

Great job of damage control, by JJ.

Tiger Woods

September 22nd, 2009
9:10 pm

BOOM we still got this ladies and gents. All you negative Nancies can just get hell out!!! Chop Chop!!! Mixxo= Supido

HoCoJo

September 22nd, 2009
9:10 pm

Vinings Jim

I cannot believe watered covered I-285 and I-20 West near you! Now the AJC is reporting that many of the flood victims have no flood insurance.

Roja

September 22nd, 2009
9:11 pm

Pretty hard to see smoke and mirrors

Steve from OH

September 22nd, 2009
9:11 pm

Tiger–not familiar with our friend Chop Chop, huh? You’re missing out…

Tiger Woods

September 22nd, 2009
9:11 pm

JJ at 94 pitches. Gotta go 1 more inning though right??

P. W. Hjort

September 22nd, 2009
9:11 pm

What did Escobar do that has everyone so upset?

kirkinga

September 22nd, 2009
9:13 pm

Um, wonder if Bobby pulls JJ?

richbrave

September 22nd, 2009
9:13 pm

You go JJ. What a gutty performance. 94 pitches. GO BRAVES.

Roja

September 22nd, 2009
9:13 pm

Why’d they pull Figueroa? He was just getting warmed up.

David O'Brien

September 22nd, 2009
9:13 pm

Jurrjens has lowered his ERA to 2.70 — nearly a full run below last season, when he went 13-10 with a 3.68 ERA.
If he holds on for the win tonight, he’d be 13-10 again.

Steve from OH

September 22nd, 2009
9:14 pm

Pretty hard to see smoke and mirrors

No smoke and mirrors here, Just common sense.

So you really think that comparing the pitch counts of 35-year old scrub Nelson Figueroa to those of 22 and 23-year old Tommy Hanson and Jair Jurrjens is really apples-to-apples, huh? Well, you got me. Tell me what I’m missing, maestro. Or am I seeing smoke and mirrors?

Gov Clinton Tyree

September 22nd, 2009
9:14 pm

PWHjort, he cut off a throw from Anderson eight feet from the bag that would have cut Schneider down trying to leg out a double.

Mets didn’t cash in; Jurrjens induced a popup and a lazy fly ball to center. Bullet dodged.

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
9:14 pm

It’s been a few days since I did this…

Marteeeeeeen.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
9:15 pm

What did Escobar do that has everyone so upset?

He cut off Anderson’s throw to Prado, when Prado was 5 feet away… If he hadn’t, the runner would have been a dead duck…

McFann =Ô=

September 22nd, 2009
9:16 pm

kirknga Well at least we don’t lose anything defensively with Ross.

Yeah, whoopy. :roll:

V Jim

Glad to see you here! Saw the floods in Vinings on the TV a lot today and I was thinkin’ about ya. Hope everything’s OK.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
9:16 pm

Has JJ reached his goal of 200 innings yet??

I’m so happy for him!!

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
9:17 pm

LAAAAAAR- RY LAAAAAAAAAAR – RY!

McFann =Ô=

September 22nd, 2009
9:17 pm

Jurrjens4NLCY

Pretty sure he has…needed 7 more innings, right?

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
9:18 pm

Rossy, come on for a 3-fer, please (is there an emoticon for “beg”?).

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
9:19 pm

If B-Macc happens to drive in 100 runs 9which I don’t think will happen, I’m Banking on 94-95) then he is the team MVP…

Otherwise is MP (Prado)

I called it early this season that if the Road to October were to roll through the “A” than Chipper woul have to have a big season, w/o injury

I think that I why I have been a lil bit harsh on Chipper, but I still have 11 of his rookie cards!

It seems as if “Fantasy Baseball has taken over Card Collecting in the era of Free agency now…

D.O.B. Did You ever collect cards like you do albums/cd’s etc…?

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
9:19 pm

McFann,

Imma check.

P. W. Hjort

September 22nd, 2009
9:19 pm

I bet that’s scored a – in +/-.

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
9:19 pm

Steve from OH

September 22nd, 2009
9:20 pm

Beltran hasn’t looked comfortable out there from what I’ve seen.

Doesn’t surprise me though. WTH is he even doing out there right now?

Tiger Woods

September 22nd, 2009
9:21 pm

Ya Jurrjens is exactly at 200 innings!

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
9:21 pm

Bunting??
Why Bobby do it at the wrong times and not at the right times?

McFann =Ô=

September 22nd, 2009
9:21 pm

Tomahawkin

Yeah…with the way he’d been driving in runs lately, though, he had a shot at it–he drove in 13 runs during his 9-game hitting streak.

But I’d take 94-95. 93 is his career-high, so it would be fun if he could top that, especially after the way this season started for him.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
9:22 pm

JJ has pitched 200 innings this year!!!

GO JJ!!!!

McFann =Ô=

September 22nd, 2009
9:22 pm

Jurrjens4NLCY

OK!

McFann =Ô=

September 22nd, 2009
9:23 pm

JJ has pitched 200 innings this year!!!

Boo-yah!! :)

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
9:24 pm

D.O.B.

Why you Gotta Rub it in on Double J’s Stellar Season…?

You’re Playing with my emotions (Joking)

If Double J had the phillies Squad behind him he’d have over 20 wins ditto for Vazquez and D-Lowe…

It’s a coin flip for the team Cy Young (Vazquez and Double J) I will address that In my “Head of The Class” Post following the Season finale

What Comedical Movie to watch after the game?

I think It’s Gonna be “Def Jams How to Be a Player” with the late Bernie Mac

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
9:26 pm

A 1.6 era For Double J this year

Man he has Clowned the NY Mess!

Come On! Petey-Pablo!

richbrave

September 22nd, 2009
9:26 pm

Come on JAIR finish off the eighth.

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
9:27 pm

I think Petey-Pablo Needs to come to S. Training with those throwback “Kerry Ligtenberg” Sideburns

That would Rule! Or better yet a pornstache!

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
9:28 pm

If Double J had the phillies Squad behind him he’d have over 20 wins ditto for Vazquez and D-Lowe…

If JJ had the Phils behind him, he’d be undefeated…

Gov Clinton Tyree

September 22nd, 2009
9:28 pm

Geez, I just looked at Moylan and thought he was Wickman.

Time to throw a salad in now and then, Pete…

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
9:29 pm

Come on you crazy Aussie. Get this inning done.

McFann =Ô=

September 22nd, 2009
9:29 pm

If JJ had the Fillies behind him, I would cry.

Daybed Wagmoe

September 22nd, 2009
9:29 pm

Bobby is gutless. Pulls Jurrjens after only 94 pitches? Figueroa threw 126 pitches!!

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
9:30 pm

Petey-Pabb Used to be a Pharm-Rep…

Wow, That Is my field of work!

Nuff respect! Petey-Pabb!

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
9:31 pm

If JJ had the Fillies behind him, I would cry.

I would need anger management.

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
9:31 pm

Daybed

I will Co-sign on your last Post!

I’m getting flashbacks of that Hanson game in Houston

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
9:31 pm

A little skit I’m writting…

(Moylan pitches)
(Pegan swings)

Mets fans: (a la “roller coster”) Ooooooooh (McLouth fields ball) Aww.

Gov Clinton Tyree

September 22nd, 2009
9:31 pm

Nice play, Larry!

richbrave

September 22nd, 2009
9:32 pm

Walks, walks, walks, the bane of a close game.

Steve from OH

September 22nd, 2009
9:32 pm

Daybed, seriously? C’mon, you know better than to use that comparison…

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
9:32 pm

If Jeff Francoeur came out of a steamy shower naked with his big throbbing wanker hot for me, I wpuld lay him on the massage table and take him all in my wet hot mouth, ingering his anal cavity.

Dude.

McFann =Ô=

September 22nd, 2009
9:32 pm

Soph I would need anger management.

Yeah, it would be bad…

Moby Grape

September 22nd, 2009
9:32 pm

I still have a bad feeling about this game.

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
9:32 pm

Jurrigens4NLCY

“If JJ had the Phils behind him, he’d be undefeated…”

Yeah! Bank on That! Partnah!

trobb1

September 22nd, 2009
9:33 pm

Yeah, Moylan is a moo-cow.

Good thing his ERA is two-something and he hasn’t given up a homer this year.

Tiger Woods

September 22nd, 2009
9:34 pm

PETE!!! Rockies 5-2 top 3rd.

kirkinga

September 22nd, 2009
9:34 pm

Everyone can exhale now..lol!

Moby Grape

September 22nd, 2009
9:34 pm

Pulls Jurrjens after only 94 pitches? Figueroa threw 126 Daybed??

oh for cripes sakes, use some common sense. what a foolish comment

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
9:35 pm

Please tell me that was in imposter Tomahawkin have gay fantasies about Jeff Francouer :eek:

Obnoxious

September 22nd, 2009
9:35 pm

mOYLAN CAN’T BE this teams closer. and where is GONZO AND SORIANO? arE they HURT?

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
9:35 pm

Soph

I might need Anger Mgmt as well

Bobby and This team has already driven me to having BF’s,Tequila didn’t work so Anger Mgmt might be “On Deck” For Me…

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
9:36 pm

Dan Fuggla and Adam Dunn went Yard tonight

Gawd I still lust for Dunn in this lineup instead we have Loaf!

Mitchell

September 22nd, 2009
9:36 pm

That was awesome.

Now let’s just try not to blow it.

Doesn’t get any better than JJ and Petey. And by that of course I mean, it literally does not get better so let’s score some damn runs and hope somebody can close it out.

Okay?

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
9:36 pm

P. W. Hjort

September 22nd, 2009
9:36 pm

Yunel was sitting dead red. Plus he left that up.

Mixxo

September 22nd, 2009
9:36 pm

Esco haters!

Chew on that!

Tiger Woods

September 22nd, 2009
9:36 pm

Obnoxious why?

Roja

September 22nd, 2009
9:37 pm

Way to pitch Petey. Now if we can find a way through the bottom of the 9th.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
9:37 pm

Wait. Tomahawkin a girl? Or a gay guy?
Either is cool for me….

Mitchell

September 22nd, 2009
9:38 pm

There’s a start.

Good thing the Mets went out and got some bullpen help.

Steve from OH

September 22nd, 2009
9:38 pm

Ok, that fake T-Hawkin’ post needs deleted…like, now.

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
9:38 pm

Good work, Roachy & Esco!

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
9:38 pm

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
9:38 pm

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
9:39 pm

$10 bucks say Yunel doesn’t score…

McFann =Ô=

September 22nd, 2009
9:39 pm

Nice going, Adam!

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
9:40 pm

Bravesgirl4life

You have any evidence?

I have had people on here before trying to impersonate my posts…It happened early in the season…

Most people can spot a fake T-Hawkin becuz no one cuts the type of jive on this blog like I can…

Plus I bashed Francine Left and Right all season after being sooo Overhyped about being a changed man with his new stance in S. Training…

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
9:40 pm

DOB – Can you do something about the fake, nasty Tomahawkin at 9:31 and 9:38?

TnBrian(Vazquez ace 2010)

September 22nd, 2009
9:40 pm

Braves are a weird team. Seriously, be good or be bad. You can’t be both and keep yourself and your fans sane.

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
9:40 pm

DOB, please get rid of the fake Tomahawkin’ !! Our regular guy wouldn’t be talking like that and it’s just disgusting. :cry:

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
9:41 pm

Brooks Conrad…we’re saved

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
9:41 pm

Yup, there is someone on this Blog who wants to get Bozo’d!

Gov Clinton Tyree

September 22nd, 2009
9:41 pm

Diaz just isn’t a good bunter.

But he is OPSing about .970. Maybe we should let him hit?

Nice speed, too.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
9:41 pm

Diaz bunting???…

Good call… =)

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
9:41 pm

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
9:41 pm

Matty-D!! You da man, baby. :lol:

Steve from OH

September 22nd, 2009
9:42 pm

Don’t worry everyone, Brooks Conrad is here to save the daaaay!

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
9:42 pm

I mean, it’s one thing if you’re going to troll someone’s name and be funny and creative. But that’s just disgusting and not funny at all.

Tiger Woods

September 22nd, 2009
9:42 pm

Padres 5 Rockies 5 Top 3rd.

German Lady

September 22nd, 2009
9:42 pm

If JJ had the Phils behind him, he’d be undefeated…

If JJ had the Phils behind him, I’d probably hate him.

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
9:42 pm

D.O.B.

whoever it is that is doing this crap…Can you get your AJC crew to Check him…?

Please, and Thank You?

Steve from OH

September 22nd, 2009
9:42 pm

I fear the apocalypse might be upon us…

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
9:43 pm

Does it scare anybody else that Soriano is going to come in to close?

Roja

September 22nd, 2009
9:43 pm

Maybe Vazquez can teach Matty to bunt.

Tiger Woods

September 22nd, 2009
9:43 pm

Padres 6 Rockies 5 Top 3rd.

Paul Lentz

September 22nd, 2009
9:43 pm

I think that Brooks Conrad is trying to match Kelly Johnson’s batting average. He’s 0 for 16 since his call-up from Triple A.

iowabrave

September 22nd, 2009
9:43 pm

Padres with a 4 run 3rd, up 6-5. Still hope.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
9:44 pm

Maybe Vasquez can teach Brooks Conrad to hit…

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
9:44 pm

Come on, Nate. Do something here, dude. Please, I’m begging you.

Roja

September 22nd, 2009
9:44 pm

The announcers just said “the closer is getting loose”. Did we make a trade????

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
9:44 pm

Look at Lentz quietly sneaking in

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
9:45 pm

Has to be Tmahawin, as these things only happen when he blogs here. And I really don’t need to hear this filth making me all hot, when my poor Blow Up Doll, Heather sprung a leak last night and is out for repairs.

Nolie

September 22nd, 2009
9:45 pm

Oh yeah, we desperately needed Conrad the Great back. Sheeesh.

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
9:45 pm

I actually find this amusing…! I’m flattered that my screen name is hot on the streets!

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
9:45 pm

C’mon guys…give Soriano a little credit.

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
9:45 pm

That was not what I meant :roll: Please, God, let Soriano be on his game tonight (still wishing for an emoticon for begging).

CB

September 22nd, 2009
9:46 pm

The clown who is making fun of Tomahawkin- I will put my Sting mask on, give you the silent treatment and kick your scrawny ass! Bank on it!

Steve from OH

September 22nd, 2009
9:46 pm

Paul, what do you have to say about Kelly’s post-DL production?

David O'Brien

September 22nd, 2009
9:47 pm

Rockies are losing 6-5, but Marlins are up 3-0 on Philly in eighth

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
9:47 pm

I’m flattered that my screen name is hot on the streets!

Well, apparently it’s hot on the gay streets. But it’s hot nonetheless.

HoCoJo

September 22nd, 2009
9:47 pm

I like the way Soriano flips the ball from his glove to his right hand.

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
9:47 pm

P-Lentz is Back…?

Where da hell have you been at…?

Did you get Bozo’d again when I was absent for 2 weeks…?

And what were your thoughts on the phillies series…?

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
9:47 pm

Just getting in. So whats happened? What did I miss?

Tiger Woods

September 22nd, 2009
9:48 pm

Francouer ties the game up?

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
9:48 pm

Oh look….they got me too.

iowabrave

September 22nd, 2009
9:48 pm

By the way, Rockies starting pitcher tonight was Jorge De La Rosa. Next time you’re in trouble with your wife, girlfriend, significant other, whisper his name in your best Spanish accent in her ear. It’ll get ya out of hot water every time.

richbrave

September 22nd, 2009
9:48 pm

Will the real MFIKY please, please show up tonight.

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
9:49 pm

I swear, If Sorry-ano blows this one to the AAA “Latin Kings” I’m gonna listen to some old Whitney Houston “The Greatest Love of all and Cry” instead of having a BF!

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
9:49 pm

Keep going like that Soriano. There is no need to make it interesting here.

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
9:49 pm

Awww, jeffrey. You should be flattered too.

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
9:49 pm

Frankies up….Swoons……Jerk Jerk Jerk…..Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Tiger Woods

September 22nd, 2009
9:49 pm

Brandon

JJ 7 innings 1 run (gets him to 200 innings on the year and lowers his ERA to 2.70. Esco 2 RBI. Padres are beating the Rockies 6-5 in the 3rd.

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
9:50 pm

Well, at least Jeff can’t tie it up.

McFann =Ô=

September 22nd, 2009
9:50 pm

Brandon Just getting in. So whats happened? What did I miss?

Braves are winning 3-1 (two-run single for Escobar in the 4th, RBI for LaRoche in the 9th) and BMac left the game a couple innings after getting a ball fouled off the bottom of his left wrist. He’s day-to-day with a bone bruise.

Paul Lentz

September 22nd, 2009
9:50 pm

jeffrey d………….not trying to be “quiet”. I’ve just been too busy this month to post on blogs.

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
9:51 pm

Appreciate that Tiger Woods. How did we score out 2(?) runs? Been in the library studying and working on projects for Brit Lit. :(

Choppinmama

September 22nd, 2009
9:51 pm

Sure am glad to see Yunel still in the game and not on the bench with a strained calf or the dreaded groin pull. It’d still be 2-1, and I’d be sweating MFIKY’s 9th inning appearance. Not much room to play with here, Rafael.

Roja

September 22nd, 2009
9:51 pm

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
9:51 pm

CB, can you just go through the CPU and give my imposter a “Bootin DDT”?

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
9:52 pm

McFann, Thanks

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
9:52 pm

DOB – can you please get rid of this perverted troll?? He posted as Tomahawkin at 9:31 and 9:38, now he’s posting as me at 9:49 after I said something about him.

I don’t mind so much that they’re taking my name. I just hate this disgusting perverted crap.

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
9:52 pm

Someone must be really bored. Seriously?

Mixxo

September 22nd, 2009
9:52 pm

Tomahawkin -

I gotta admit though, that “…Saddlescores…. “ thing was kinda funny.

Still chuckling. :lol:

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
9:52 pm

Still like Jeff, but darn it was good to see him K there :razz:

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
9:53 pm

YES Sheffield is up

They are bumin that “Here I Go’ By Mystikal! One of the best rap songs of the 90’s!

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
9:53 pm

Is MFIKY back?

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
9:53 pm

That was nice, thanks Francoeur, anyone spare a cigarette.

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
9:53 pm

It’s all gravy, Paul. It’s just we haven’t heard from you in forever, then out of nowhere you make this quiet, ordinary comment.

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
9:54 pm

jeffrey – just ignore it. We know it’s not you.

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
9:54 pm

I meant to say Bumpin That, or Cranking That!

CB

September 22nd, 2009
9:54 pm

You got it, buddy.

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
9:54 pm

Sorry Tomahawkin but im gonna have disagree with ya on “Here I Go”. Cant stand that song!! lol

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
9:54 pm

MFIKY

Come On!

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
9:55 pm

Careful, Soriano. Don’t let Santos get to you, man.

Roja

September 22nd, 2009
9:55 pm

Little out. Frenchy is still swinging at pitches in the left-hand batter’s box and ankle high

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
9:56 pm

MFIKY needs to pitch high and in more often and more consistently…

Roja

September 22nd, 2009
9:56 pm

Woah… walked a has been

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
9:56 pm

Brandon From Warner Robbins

WHATTTT, I love that song It’s good before the beginning of a football game

Mystikal is on there killing it for about 5 and a half minutes in that song, Beats the hell out of that Pop-Tart Lil Wayne Garbage that is Way Overrplayed today!

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
9:56 pm

Tomahawkin, Me, you and Frankie , a Beef Burger.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
9:56 pm

Nolie

September 22nd, 2009
9:56 pm

I hate fielders indifference, no matter what team allows it.

Vinings Jim

September 22nd, 2009
9:56 pm

Well done, MFIKY!

Roja

September 22nd, 2009
9:57 pm

I guess a 1-2-3 is just beyond the realm of possibility with Soriano these days.

bravesgrl4life

September 22nd, 2009
9:57 pm

Whew! That was close, but MFIKY got the job done. Pretty good game, over all.

Gotta go do the dishes and hit the bed. Good night, all!

Mitchell

September 22nd, 2009
9:57 pm

10 of 12 and thanks to Bobby Cox it couldn’t matter less.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
9:58 pm

In a 1 – 0 game, Does the guy who hits the HR get player of the game, or does the pitcher?

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
9:58 pm

Yay, Braves! Great win.

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
9:58 pm

Now I agree with ya on Lil Wayne cant stand him or his music. But I prefer Tupac, Notorious B.I.G, Dr. Dre etc. All the new stuff aint very good. :)

Mitchell

September 22nd, 2009
9:58 pm

What the H does MFIKY mean?

TnBrian(Vazquez ace 2010)

September 22nd, 2009
9:59 pm

Mitchell, you have me laughing hard with that at 9:57! True True

Roja

September 22nd, 2009
10:00 pm

Strikes out the side with a walk thrown in for excitement. Entertaining.

TnBrian(Vazquez ace 2010)

September 22nd, 2009
10:00 pm

MFIKY = Mutha Fu*** I Kill You

McFann =Ô=

September 22nd, 2009
10:01 pm

You’re welcome, Brandon!

Nice win.

Roja

September 22nd, 2009
10:02 pm

By the way, TWO runs were enough…. because the bullpen did their job.

Salamander

September 22nd, 2009
10:03 pm

Never been a fan of ‘MFIKY.’

I mean, an acronym for a dude’s name? meh. Lukewarm.

I preferred DOB’s “the Scowl.”

Tiger Woods

September 22nd, 2009
10:03 pm

6-6 Rockies, Padres top 4

richbrave

September 22nd, 2009
10:03 pm

O.K. Great game JJ, MOYLAN, SORIANO, ESCOBAR, PRADO, and LaROCHE. Keep it coming. TG I get to see seven of the next 11 as the NATS are always on cable here. Let’s go 13-0 to closew out the ROCKIES. It can be did.

McFann =Ô=

September 22nd, 2009
10:03 pm

The people that highjack names are SO annoying…

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
10:03 pm

Ryan Howard flys out to the 434 sign…

Incredible. Marlins win…

Paul Lentz

September 22nd, 2009
10:04 pm

Tomorrow’s game is very important. If the Braves can finish off the sweep against the Mets by beating Pelfrey, then if the Braves are indeed worthy of putting pressure on the Rockies……then it should be a given that we should sweep the 7 remaining games against the Nationals. Their pitching sucks. Our pitching is superior to theirs.

Normally it’s hard to assume that a team is going to win 7 in a row against any team in baseball. However, I can actually see the Braves winning 7 in a row against the Nationals.

That would leave the 3 games next week against the Marlins as toughies.

I’d be happy if the Padres win one of these 3 games against the Rockies.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
10:05 pm

By the way, TWO runs were enough…. because the bullpen did their job.

Two runs is never enough…

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
10:06 pm

Brandon From W Robbins

I guess you weren’t big on the old Master P, TRU, Mystikal, and Mia X (Momma Mia!) that was hot from 96-99? No…?

And You gotta give some love to some old Warren G and Nate Dogg as well as Naughty by Nature, Queen Latifah among others…?

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
10:06 pm

Paul Lentz,

Padres have beaten up the ROckies this season.

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
10:08 pm

P-Lentz

After Getting Clowned by the Phillies last weekend, The Reds 3 weeks ago and the Padres, You actually think Los Bravos still have a Chance?

If so, then you just WOW’d the Hell out of me, You are normally one of the most critical posters on here…

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
10:09 pm

Heather sprung a leak last night and is out for repairs.

Aww. That sucks man…

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
10:10 pm

Tomahawkin, Master P TRU Warren G. and Nate Dogg ill agree.

Not familiar with Naughty by Nature. I’ll give em a listen if i can find em.

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
10:11 pm

Paul, good post @ 10:04. Agreed.

McFann =Ô=

September 22nd, 2009
10:12 pm

Ah well…nice to win the series against the Mets. Hopefully they cann pull off a sweep tomorrow…good ol’ Pelfrey…

Night, all.

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
10:14 pm

G’night, McFann!

Salamander

September 22nd, 2009
10:14 pm

Not familiar with Naughty by Nature. I’ll give em a listen if i can find em

You born in the 90’s or something? They were huge in 1992-93.

F. Wren

September 22nd, 2009
10:15 pm

In case you don’t recognize the stands taken here, it is that ole loser Dadgum…….also know as ROCKGUM

Here you go again RockGum. Let’s go back and see what you’ve been saying lately.

I think Wren needs to look at all avenues to keep Vazquez and Hudson as I have stated many times. RockGum 8/21 10:29

You told us MANY TIMES to sign Vazquez AND HUDSON

Don’t get me wrong I have nothing against Hudson but I am not mortgaging the farm and trading away Vazquez to be replaced by Tim Hudson. RockGum 8/21 2:38pm

This time it’s sign Vazquez but NOT HUDSON.

That will be Hudson’s job this year…to prove he is back and I for one am not going to annoint a start to someone coming off TJ and put him in a must win game (which all are from this point on). Gotta stick with KK, IMO, he ain’t that bad. RockGum 8/6 2:49pm

Hudson is not the way to go but KAWAKAMI seems like a good bet.

I am counting on nothing from Hudson this year but I am counting on seeing the big bats from the minors arrive to add lumber to the bench. RockGum 8/17 1:03pm

Counting on NOTHING from HUDSON but “BIG LUMBER” Conrad is coming to save us.

With Hudson (as with Glavine as with Smoltz) it is clearly not what you have done but what will you most likely be able to contribute. We know what Vazquez will give us in 2010 but regardless of how much Hudson will get to pitch (if any) this year I just can’t see the Braves picking up his option at 12 mil. RockGum 8/21 1:42pm

Now it’s NO HUDSON but I’ll take Vazquez again. Is there a stance you will not take if given enough time and a little success? I bet you’re back on the Prado bandwagon now that he is on a seven game hitting streak. And you forgot the 240/280/380/660 second half before.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
10:17 pm

Well I have to go to bed too, I need to cut down on my tardies before I get dropped, but you don’t have the problem, but you don’t have that problem, do ya McFann?

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
10:17 pm

Salamander I was born in 1990 so thats a little before my time i guess lol

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
10:19 pm

Night McFann

YoungerThan ThatNow

September 22nd, 2009
10:19 pm

DOB… thanks for the notes on the state of the Braves’ white shirts. (I’m always wondering what their thoughts are on the state of the team.) And a great article on Matty D! aka… the best kept secret in baseball.

Don’t know how the Braves fuzzies see it… but in ‘10 Matty D’s in my outfield fulltime. I ask you “what does a man have to do to prove his worth?”

And for whoever earlier stated that they would hate to see Matt at the plate in a meaningful at bat in the 7th game of the WS… well, for my $$$ I can name only one or two who I would rather see in that situation. He can look so bad on one pitch only to look so good on the next one… as good as anybody I’ve ever seen in that position… and the man’s never seen a pitch that he didn’t like.

Putting it simply… Matty D can rake! And kudos to him for going against the grain… on this blog anyway… and saying some very good and positive things about the best manager to ever don player’s cleats and a catcher’s mitt in the dugout!!

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
10:25 pm

I used to get a lot of tardies.

David O'Brien

September 22nd, 2009
10:26 pm

Ahh, Philly won that game, moves the Braves ahead of Florida into third in wild-card race

Mixxo

September 22nd, 2009
10:27 pm

McFann =Ô= –

‘night Hon. Don’t forget to wear those lucky jammies again!

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
10:27 pm

Brandon From W. Robbins…

WOW, You Don’t Know About Naughty By Nature?

They were on MTV all the time when MTV was Good!

Even D.O.B. knows that old Naughty by Nature still goes Hard!

And I guess you don’t know nothing about some old D.J. Quik and M.C. Eiht, Old West Coast Rap before it got big…

I need to take you under my wing when it comes to the ol school underrated rap before it became all about making money!

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
10:27 pm

My attendance was impeccable.

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
10:28 pm

Weren’t the Marlins leading that game at one time?

bruce

September 22nd, 2009
10:28 pm

David, –
Thanks for the great story on Matt… do you think his defense has improved too? I recall Huddy teasingly called him Magellan a few years ago for the routes he takes to catch a ball… I know he has dropped a few, but my sense is he is pretty solid, not a defensive liability, pretty good arm, really hustles, improving. Did he really do the P90X in the off-season? As you probably recall, I am a fan… he asked me if I got my Diaz t-shirt at Good Will… a year later, I got him to sign it for me.
Are you taking the day off in NY or DC? Thanks, Bruce

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
10:29 pm

Brandon from W. Robbins…

Ur only 19…?

You better enjoy it before you turn 21…

Its much better partying when you’re underage…It goes downhill when you turn 21, “Bank On It!”

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
10:30 pm

Tomahawkin – I’m willing to learn :) ha ha.

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
10:30 pm

Well, my attendance was okay until senior year. Then, it all went downhill.

Perfect attendance, jeffrey?

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
10:32 pm

Nah, it wasn’t really.

Rockies are back up

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
10:34 pm

Stupid Rockies. Lose dammit.

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
10:35 pm

Megan Fox and U2 on SNL this week. Excellent!

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
10:36 pm

Giants are losing bad!

Soph,

I set my Middle Schools and HS’s record for most tardies and poorest attendance, but I’m one of the smartest “kids” you’ll meet…

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
10:40 pm

Well Brandon From W. Robbins…

Check me on Facebook’s D.O.B. Blog group…You find me on there, send me a message…

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
10:40 pm

There’s something to be proud of

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
10:42 pm

Every time the D-Backs score 6 or more run, ARZ gets 3 free tacos from taco bell…JEALOUS!!!

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
10:42 pm

Congratulations? Why’d you put quotation marks around kids?

Salamander

September 22nd, 2009
10:43 pm

Megan Fox and U2 on SNL this week. Excellent!

Eep! Well you’re still young with plenty of time to develop some taste.

Megan Fox is hot in a “Wow this girl is a total slut. I hope I didn’t get the herp!” kind of a way.

U2?

No comment.

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
10:44 pm

Tomahawkin…Will do!

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
10:44 pm

Because he doesn’t think of himself as a kid and doesn’t want to be thought as such by others.

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
10:44 pm

Brandon From Warner Robbins

Damn Son, You are too young to know about the old “Booty Shake” Genre of old 90’s rap

Some old Too Short, Raheem the dream, D.J. Majic mike, etc…OMG

Man you were 6 years old when Busta Rhymes and Missy Elliott became hot as solo artists

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
10:44 pm

There’s something to be proud of

Not “proud” per say, but I did test 99% better than the nation in mathematics, science, and literature

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
10:45 pm

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
10:45 pm

You know who else is better than 99% of the people?

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
10:45 pm

Brandon From W. Robbins

If you need the link to D.O.B.’s blog Facebook Group, then holla at meh…?

NCBravesFan

September 22nd, 2009
10:46 pm

C’mon San Diego! Help us out!

If the Braves can close it to three back in the loss column by the weekend, we’ll have a shot. Cards are coming to Denver this weekend, and the Rox close in LA the last weekend of the season.

Just win, Braves – and hope for the best!

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
10:46 pm

Thanks for the translation, jeffrey.

T’Hawkin – I think you should start off our sing-a-long today. Go for it.

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
10:46 pm

Salamander… :)

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
10:48 pm

Soph,

Because I’m not a baby goat…

GIANTS UNRAVELING !!!!

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
10:48 pm

Tomahawkin yeah i guess i missed out on a lot good music. But im catching up.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
10:50 pm

You know who else is better than 99% of the people?

Hitler?

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
10:50 pm

Something caught my attention the other night. A group of baseball “analysts” on “that” were suggesting a second wild card. What yall think about that?

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
10:51 pm

thats supposed to say “that” network. :(

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
10:52 pm

Soph…

Ugghhh, No, but thanks…It’s late night Time, so I usually chillout to some old 90’s R&B…I’ve been on an old Jodeci binge lately…I was rocking Type O’Negative earlier, Beavis and Butthead got me onto that…

And When I was on the way to work this morning The played that old “I Swear” on 107.5 so I was bumpin that on the NE ESPY in Gwinnett

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
10:53 pm

A second Wild Card is a bad idea…

White Blood Cells

September 22nd, 2009
10:53 pm

Younger Than That Now,

I was so much older then.

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
10:54 pm

Actually it was Lentz (self-proclaimed)

David O'Brien

September 22nd, 2009
10:54 pm

Giants are losing now, too. Braves could be tied for second in wild-card standings at end of the night

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
10:55 pm

Instead I think the top 4 league teams should be in the playoffs, regardless of division, and 1 plays 4 and 2 plays 3, We should do it like Hockey…

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
10:56 pm

Brandon From W. Robbins

Baseball, will adopt the same playoff format 7 years from Now, “Bank On It”

Since the steriod era is over, baseball will continue to lose the casual fan audience to the NFL…They will have to do something to keep interest in small mkt teams like Pittsburgh and KC among others who are losing fans by the season to their NFL franchises…

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
10:57 pm

so I usually chillout to some old 90’s R&B

Ew.

Salt life

September 22nd, 2009
10:57 pm

Bros……. and Sis…….Sons of Anarchy ROCKS!!!!!!……. I have one tat…. I don’t wear jewelry…… I’m not a criminal……. but I will ride, bro…. I will ride

White Blood Cells

September 22nd, 2009
10:58 pm

Clemens defamation case against McNamee was dismissed.

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
10:58 pm

Brandon From W. Robbins…

I’m just gonna call you “B” when you’re on here…

Damn, You don’t know anything about old Outkast before they hit the Pop-Tart Charts

And you don’t know about old R. Kelly and Nas…You missed out unfortunately…

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
10:59 pm

Since the steriod era is over, baseball will continue to lose the casual fan audience to the NFL…

I don’t know, NFL’s twice a week (Sun & Mon) so I don’t see it being a huge issue. Yeah, it’ll deter some people but not a big impact. Just my opinion though.

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
11:00 pm

Well, I guess I’m a pop tart b/c I like both the older & more recent stuff from Outkast.

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
11:01 pm

Tomahawkin “B” works for me! I know my name is a lot to type out lol

Nas im slightly familiar with. He’s becoming a daily must listen to.

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
11:02 pm

Jurrigens 4NLCY

“EW” What do You Mean…So you don’t like no old Boyz II Men…That Stuff still goes hard, Even B-Macc Likes It…!

LOL, You don’t know nothing about that…! That stuff is Smooth, chicks love it…”It’s like they say If your gonna Walk the Walk ya gotta ugghhh Talk too ” A quote from Beavis and Butthead”

Joe D. loves Marilyn

September 22nd, 2009
11:03 pm

Sons of Anarchy…

Really interesting to see such hot women who happen to be so totally skanky…should try and emulate that on more shows, I think…

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
11:04 pm

Soph…

I wouldn’t Say so…

Outkast Sold Out with that Love Below CD (2004)…

They need a Reunion…But Big Boi’s Purple Ribbon song “Kryptonite” is the Jam…I go off if I hear that at a club or a party…

Mark in PA

September 22nd, 2009
11:04 pm

ARI has scored 6 in the third, now leading SFO 9-4!

P. W. Hjort

September 22nd, 2009
11:06 pm

Rockies now lead 7-6. The D-Backs have a fairly safe 9-4 lead over the Giants, though they’re only in the 3rd inning. Matt Cain got roughed up.

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
11:06 pm

“B”

You gotta buy/download Nas’s first CD “Illmatic” that CD is a classic in hip hop culture, I think D.O.B. raved about that CD, every song on that CD is dope…

especially “Life’s a Bitch”

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
11:06 pm

Early 90’s R & B is such an odd genre.

Not odd. Just random…

P. W. Hjort

September 22nd, 2009
11:07 pm

Dang the Rockies just got another on a wild pitch. 8-6.

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
11:07 pm

Didn’t Nas go to jail?

David O'Brien

September 22nd, 2009
11:07 pm

Lot of talk in the clubhouse about Jurrjens and how he should have 18-20 wins and be a Cy Young candidate, if the Braves had scored more runs for him.

He didn’t have his usual stuff tonight, didn’t feel good with his fastball from the moment he started warming up in the ‘pen, and had to rely on the change and slider. That was just one more reason Cox lauded him, comparing him to Braves pitchers of the past (Jurrjens and Vazquez have gotten quite a few such comparisons from the venerable manager this season, and it’s about the highest praise he gives, comparing these fellas to his boys Maddux, Smoltz and Glav).

Here’s the gamer with quotes, unedited. Space was tight today after I wrote that 30-inch story on McGuirk and the future, etc. Fortunately, not a lot of scoring to account for in the game.

By David O’Brien
dobrien@ajc.com

New York – In a season when Jair Jurrjens could have at least 18 wins with better run support, he’s fought hard just to keep his record above .500.

The Braves right-hander has been steadfast, and Tuesday he beat the Mets to win his third consecutive start on another night with scant offensive backing.

Although he didn’t feel as strong as usual, Jurrjens allowed only five hits and one run in seven innings of a 3-1 win at Citi Field, the 10th win in 12 games for the Braves to keep alive their slim playoff chances.

“One of those nights where you don’t have your fastball and you have to pitch, not be a thrower,” said Jurrjens (13-10), who had more walks (three) than strikeouts (two) for the first time in more than two months.

The Braves got a scare when catcher Brian McCann left in the fourth with a right-hand injury after getting hit by a foul tip. X-rays were negative and a bone bruise was diagnosed. He’s questionable for Wednesday’s series finale.

Yunel Escobar’s two-run, two-out single in the fourth was enough support for Jurrjens, who’s 3-0 with an 0.82 ERA in his past three starts.

“He’s a tough, tough competitor — a lot like some of the guys in the past that came through here,” said manager Bobby Cox, bestowing high praise on the Curacao kid by comparing him to Braves pitching icons of the past two decades.

The win moved the Braves past Florida into third in the wild-card standings, still 4-1/2 games behind Colorado and a half-game behind San Francisco before the conclusion of late games Tuesday that involved the Rockies and Giants.

The Braves have won 12 of 17 against the Mets, and Jurrjens is 4-0 with a 1.60 ERA in five starts against them this season. He worked out of a jam in the seventh with runners at second and third and one out, inducing a foul pop by Fernando Tatis and flyout by Cory Sullivan.

“The comments I hear from the opposing team about J.J.,” third baseman Chipper Jones said, “are, ‘This guy is incredibly poised. He knows how to pitch. He’s able to pitch with three pitches, has enough power to blow you away, and enough finesse to keep you off-balance.’

“Those are things you like to hear about pitchers on your staff…. He’s had some bad luck, or he’d be in the running for the Cy Young.”

Jurrjens finished his 2008 rookie season with the same record (13-10) he has now, but with a 3.68 ERA — nearly a run higher than his current 2.70, the fourth-lowest among National League starters.

He’s allowed two earned runs or fewer in 24 of 32 starts. Jurrjens is 8-8 in his past 21 starts, and the Braves scored two runs or fewer while he was in 12 of 13 non-wins in that period.

He didn’t get a win in half of his 16 quality starts in that stretch.

After Adam LaRoche’s ninth-inning single drove in Escobar for a 3-1 lead, Rafael Soriano recorded his 25th save.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
11:09 pm

Name the last NL team to finish with the best record in baseball and win the World Series…

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
11:09 pm

Tomahawkin – Downloaded it the other day :)

Steve from OH

September 22nd, 2009
11:09 pm

“One of those nights where you don’t have your fastball and you have to pitch, not be a thrower,” said Jurrjens (13-10),

It’s comments like that that remind me of why I absolutely love that kid. Well said, JJ.

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
11:09 pm

He’s been arrested before. I don’t think he did any serious time though.

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
11:12 pm

Sometimes it’s hard to believe Jair’s only 23.

Steve from OH

September 22nd, 2009
11:12 pm

He’s been arrested before. I don’t think he did any serious time though

Then he ain’t got no street cred, yo.

8)

Johnny Schuerholz

September 22nd, 2009
11:13 pm

Rockies look like they want to wrap it up sooner than later…think they may get to 12 + runs tonight…but it would be nice if San Diego could steal at least one win from them this series…

So…Braves have to sweep the lowly Mets…no room now for one loss…this week, anyway…

With off day on Thursday…scoreboard watching (again)…it would be nice to gain a game on the Rockies…when we do not even play…

Frank from KS (now living in CO)

September 22nd, 2009
11:14 pm

Hi fellow Braves fans and bloggers. Been away for awhile. Been spending time on FB but wanted to check out the blog.

Well….can they do it? I think it’s going to get real interesting the last week or so.

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
11:15 pm

Sometimes it’s hard to believe Jair’s only 23.

Younger than us. sigh….

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
11:17 pm

This one is a thoughy:

Name the last NL team to finish with the best record in baseball and win the World Series…

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
11:18 pm

Younger than us. sigh….

I know, it’s depressing. I’m older than all my fav players now. :-(

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
11:19 pm

JJ i’ll say Cardinals?

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
11:20 pm

You’re still younger than Kelly.

David O'Brien

September 22nd, 2009
11:20 pm

Tomahawkin: Illmatic is a seminal rap record. Awesome. But I’m telling you, his latest one is almost as good, if not as good. It’s his best in a long, long time.

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
11:21 pm

And possibly Marteeen if your bday’s after October 27th.

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
11:22 pm

I said my favorite players. You’re still younger than Norton.

David O'Brien

September 22nd, 2009
11:22 pm

Soph: Ain’t that the truth? Jair is only 7 months older than Hanson.

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
11:23 pm

Nope, I’m a few months older than Marteen.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
11:23 pm

Brandon, Which year?

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
11:24 pm

DOB,

Do you know the answer??

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
11:25 pm

Yup, DOB and I think he’s younger than Medlen. JJ’s got some baseball smarts – no question.

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
11:25 pm

Back in the 1940’s. I dont know JJ lol

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
11:27 pm

lol Brandon @ 11:25

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
11:28 pm

I guess we’d better get used to it….we’re just now getting to the age where athletes, new musicians, etc. are going to be younger than us.

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
11:28 pm

Its amazing. some of these athletes are my age and makin millions.

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
11:31 pm

The day Chipper retires – I’m going to feel super old. That’s my childhood right there.

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
11:32 pm

I won’t feel super old until McCann retires.

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
11:33 pm

McCann’s 11 days younger than me. He’s going to retire when he’s 40 while I’ll still have 25 years of driving through 316 in monsoons.

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
11:33 pm

Yeah, well hopefully we’ll be in our forties when that happens.

glove51

September 22nd, 2009
11:34 pm

DOB: You have really been writing some great pieces of late, my man.

Jair Jurrjens is the best Braves pitcher, no doubt about it.

Tomahawkin

September 22nd, 2009
11:34 pm

“B”

I caught up wit ya on FB…

started talking to this one Sorostitute that I used to know that’s why it took so long…

D.O.B.

Did you find that imposter that was on me and Jeffey D…?

If So did he get Bozo’d? I’d assume so because he vanished after the game was over…

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
11:34 pm

Well, he’s almost 7 months younger than me and if it makes you feel better I’ll still be drudging up 85 probably.

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
11:36 pm

Tomahawkin i got ya. no worries.

Salamander

September 22nd, 2009
11:38 pm

Along with the much discussed deals that Wren didn’t make / fell through during the offseason (Peavy being exhibit A), I’m glad he didn’t make a move to pick up Dye, as many on this blog suggested he should do.

Just saw Dye’s numbers in the second half this year… yikes!

.168 avg, 5 HR, 19 RBI in 196 ABs.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
11:39 pm

Soph and jeffrey d,

Name the last NL team to have the best record in MLB and win the World Series… (Year and Team…)

Nolie

September 22nd, 2009
11:39 pm

Ah y’all are just breaking my heart with all that “super old” junk. Buncha younguns. ;)

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
11:41 pm

Salamander

September 22nd, 2009
11:42 pm

Oh you kids and your quarter-century, post-college, oh-crap-I’m-going-to-die-someday-and-I’m-well-on-my-way blues.

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
11:43 pm

Name the last NL team to have the best record in MLB and win the World Series…

pshhhh….I’m guessing that because it’s a trivia question it’s been awhile.

Mostly AL teams in the 90’s. Florida was a WC. Don’t think the Braves had the best record. Shot in the dark…the 1990 Reds.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
11:44 pm

1967 is not correct…

I’ll give 500 blog points…

And I’ll total ‘em up after the week, and post the leaders…

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
11:45 pm

1990 Reds is a good guess… But incorrect…

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
11:46 pm

1954 Cardinals

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
11:46 pm

500 blog points….

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
11:47 pm

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
11:47 pm

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
11:47 pm

Ok, folks…

Going to far back…

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
11:48 pm

No, wait I change my answer to 1942 Cards.

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
11:49 pm

Farther back than 1990? 95 Braves then?

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
11:49 pm

There are no final answers… Keep guessing…

Clue: It was there 25th season as a MLB team…

Chop Chop

September 22nd, 2009
11:50 pm

1986 New York Mets

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
11:50 pm

I’m confoozed. Do we need to stick to the 90’s or go farther back?

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
11:51 pm

Wait. 25th season in the NL…

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
11:51 pm

lol it’s craziness! People throwing around teams and numbers from everywhere

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
11:52 pm

1986 METS IS CORRECT!!

WAY TO GO CHOP CHOP!!!!
SWOOPING IN HERE AND STEALING IT FROM SOPH AND JEFFREY D…

500 BLOG POINTS!

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
11:52 pm

Fine, then I go with Chop Chop’s answer.

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
11:53 pm

25th season? How does that help us? So it’s not the Rockies, Marlins, D-Backs, or Brewers

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
11:53 pm

People were guess 1960s and 1930s and stuff, waaay to far back. 90 was the closet…

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
11:53 pm

I win too. Thanks, Chop Chop.

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
11:54 pm

Yeah, crappy clue JJ!

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
11:54 pm

jeffrey d,

My other clue was: “Right through his legs”

But that was a give away…

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 22nd, 2009
11:54 pm

:( i needed those points.

P. W. Hjort

September 22nd, 2009
11:54 pm

Jurrjens has almost 1000 professional innings and Hanson just passed 500. Jurrjens started pitching professionally when he was 17 and Hanson waited until he was 19. Crazy that Jurrjens is nearly twice as experienced as Hanson.

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
11:55 pm

What? I was so gonna guess someone from the 80’s next but you said we were going too far back.

Man, Soph was going to the 1940’s. She was WAY off.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
11:55 pm

Fine 100 blog points to Soph because she is pretty and young. 100 to jeffrey d because he makes me laugh (a little) and 100 to Brandon from Warner Robins because he is from Warner Robins…

Mixxo

September 22nd, 2009
11:56 pm

Salamander

September 22nd, 2009
11:42 pm

Oh you kids and your quarter-century, post-college, oh-crap-I’m-going-to-die-someday-and-I’m-well-on-my-way blues.

Hilarious isn’t it?

Can’t tell ‘em a dang thing either. :lol:

:big facepalm:

P. W. Hjort

September 22nd, 2009
11:56 pm

Padres are melting down. 6-11 now. It seems like they’re playing a college game in Colorado.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 22nd, 2009
11:56 pm

One more question? It’ll be easier and worth waaay more points… 2,000!

Chop Chop

September 22nd, 2009
11:57 pm

The Mets were 108-54 that year.

The fact that the Braves had six 100-win campaigns during their run and didn’t win a World Series in any of those seasons has not left me bitter.

Okay. I’m lying.

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
11:58 pm

Mixxo -

Hey, now! If anyone gets a facepalm, it’s you. You pulled the Yankees crap again!

:bigger facepalm:

:-)

jeffrey d

September 22nd, 2009
11:58 pm

Buckner was it? That it went through his legs?

Soph

September 22nd, 2009
11:59 pm

I went to the 40’s because he confused me. He made it sound like Brandon was going in the right direction when he said sixty something.

jeffrey d

September 23rd, 2009
12:00 am

So what was the purpose of the last question if this one’s worth 2,000?

jeffrey d

September 23rd, 2009
12:00 am

I was 4 years off with my guess. You were 40.

Soph

September 23rd, 2009
12:02 am

I told you, he confused me. Completely threw me off. Besides, you were still wrong.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
12:02 am

jeffrey d,

I total up the points…

Chop Chop

September 23rd, 2009
12:02 am

I remember the ‘86 World Series. I was six at the time. My Red Sox fan dad was too scared to watch Game 6. I think he made the right decision.

jeffrey d

September 23rd, 2009
12:03 am

Still closer. We’re going horseshoe scoring here

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
12:03 am

What 3 teams has Barry Bonds not hit HRs against?

If you give a funny response, I’ll give you 50 blog points…

Soph

September 23rd, 2009
12:03 am

lol Chop Chop. Poor dad…did he cry?

Mixxo

September 23rd, 2009
12:04 am

Soph –

:mrgreen:

I pulled that same “Yankees lub” crap over on my other forum…..they just laughed.

They know I only bleed Braves blue….thru n’ thru.

Soph

September 23rd, 2009
12:04 am

I don’t do funny. That’s all Chop Chop. I can do sarcastic.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
12:05 am

For 2,000 blog points:

What 3 teams has Barry Bonds NOT hit HRs against?

Tomahawkin

September 23rd, 2009
12:05 am

“B”

Sorry, I had to hit the can for about 45 minutes…I started getting pregnant pauses, So I had to do what I had to do…I just responded back to your message

I dunno why but I have Pretty Ricky’s “Grind on Me” song in my head…

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
12:07 am

Chop Chop?
I think Jeffrey D can be funny, sometimes…

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
12:07 am

Royals, Nationals, Rays

Chop Chop

September 23rd, 2009
12:08 am

He didn’t cry. He was a fan in ‘67 and ‘75, so he knew the drill. I think he just wanted one of his kids (me, because I was the sports nut) to let him know what happened. It probably didn’t help that I was really excited and happy that the Mets won. After all, Albany, Georgia’s own Ray Knight scored the winning run in the game. That’s exciting stuff for a six-year-old.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
12:08 am

“Baby, grind on me, relax your body baby, life is sweet…’

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
12:08 am

Tomahawkin no worries! been watchin Bernie Mac show and tryin to answer JJ’s questions. lol

Chop Chop

September 23rd, 2009
12:09 am

What the hell are these blog points good for?

Can I redeem them for booze or something?

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
12:09 am

Royals, Nationals, Rays

Thats EXACTLY what my friend just guessed…

But no, you have one of them though…

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
12:10 am

Rays, Boston, Minnesota

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
12:11 am

What the hell are these blog points good for?

Can I redeem them for booze or something?

You’ll be deemed top DOBlogger…
And you’ll have a defensive lawyer in court, on us of course…

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
12:12 am

Rays, Boston, Minnesota

Your soo close…

Tomahawkin

September 23rd, 2009
12:13 am

“B’

I was not a big fan of the Bernie Mac Show, maily because it would’ve been better if it had aired on HBO where it would’ve been un cut…

Bernie Mac isn’t funny when he’s censored as he was in that show…

Try wating Def Jams How to be a Player with Bernie Mac in it, that move came out in 1997…

Soph

September 23rd, 2009
12:13 am

Rays, Twins, White Sox

Tomahawkin

September 23rd, 2009
12:14 am

Chop Chop

Co-Sign

I was wonder if Blog points were D.O.B.’s CP’s or something…?

I wish we could redeem them for Booze, I need a Tokyo Tea Right about now!

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
12:15 am

Rays, Red Sox Indians?

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
12:16 am

Tomahawkin completely

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
12:16 am

Clue:

Team One: Rays
Team Two: An ALE team
Team Three hasn’t won a WS in over 50 years…

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
12:18 am

That should say completely agree!

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
12:20 am

Final guesses?

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
12:20 am

Rays Boston Cleveland.

P. W. Hjort

September 23rd, 2009
12:20 am

Rays Orioles Rangers

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
12:22 am

Rays Boston Cleveland is correct… 2,000 points to Griffendor! I mean Brandon…

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
12:23 am

Movin on up! Thanks JJ, now where can I redeem these points?

Soph

September 23rd, 2009
12:23 am

I could’ve sworn he has homeruns agains Boston.

Soph

September 23rd, 2009
12:24 am

11-10 Rockies but Pads are batting in the top of the 9th. 2 outs, runner on 1st & 3rd.

Chop Chop

September 23rd, 2009
12:24 am

He hit a homer off Wakefield in ‘07.

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
12:25 am

Soph keep the updates from that game comin if ya dont mind.

Soph

September 23rd, 2009
12:25 am

Thank you, Chop Chop.

JJ – you’re questions are rigged.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
12:25 am

Movin on up! Thanks JJ, now where can I redeem these points?

At your nearest ATM…

… $75 service charge… blam Chase bank, not me…

Soph

September 23rd, 2009
12:26 am

Game over. :-(

Rockies 11
Padres 10

So close, dammit.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
12:27 am

According to CBS sports…

Chop Chop

September 23rd, 2009
12:27 am

fastasballs

September 23rd, 2009
12:28 am

Damn Padres…………………

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
12:28 am

Hold on, question is under re-view… points suspended for now…

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
12:28 am

Dang. C’mon San Diego!

Chop Chop

September 23rd, 2009
12:29 am

Good job, Rockies.

I’m ready to go golfing.

Will

September 23rd, 2009
12:31 am

Man i had my hopes up for a second when the padres cut it to 11-10

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
12:31 am

5 games back now?

Soph

September 23rd, 2009
12:33 am

Yup, Brandon. 5 GB.

fastasballs

September 23rd, 2009
12:33 am

What are you guys doing, playing a little blog trivia?

Someone needs to come up with a good drinking game for the blog. Too bad Frenchy is gone because I could have invented an entire game just based on him.

Diaz would be another fun one as well. I’m not cracking on him, it’s just he makes everything interesting. Fielding, batting, running the bases etc, doesn’t matter what he’s doing he’s entertaining to watch.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
12:34 am

Chop Chop is right, Bonds hit a HR of Wakefield, point officialy suspended… Tough luck, now you know of JJ feels, New Question: Which Atlanta pitcher has given up more HR to Barry Bonds? (AS A BRAVE)
1. Tim Hudson
B. Russ Ortiz
3. Jason Marquis
D. John Smoltz
5. Greg Maddux

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
12:36 am

I’m devastated. John Smoltz

Soph

September 23rd, 2009
12:37 am

I think Brandon’s right – Smoltz.

I’m out – night all!

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
12:38 am

Someone needs to come up with a good drinking game for the blog.

Every time Paul Lentz says something stupid, you chug a travel sized bottle of mouth wash…
You’ll be drunk be dinner time…

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
12:39 am

Smoltz is correct…. 2, 00 points returned…

How many times? for 100 points…

Will

September 23rd, 2009
12:40 am

John smoltz for sure

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
12:40 am

8

Guys, I’ll catch yall later on. Night!

NO MORE BOBBY

September 23rd, 2009
12:40 am

The Rockies deserve the wild card. They win when they have to and beat the teams they should.

jeffrey d

September 23rd, 2009
12:47 am

I’ve been trying to get some Spanish music influence, and I came across this guy. I love it….the music’s so beautiful

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHU-AJTn0I8

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
12:53 am

Here come the giants….

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
12:54 am

AND DER DEY GO!!

jeffrey d

September 23rd, 2009
12:58 am

JJ I thought you said you were going to bed like 2 hours ago

Tomahawkin

September 23rd, 2009
12:58 am

jeffrey d

“I’ve been trying to get some Spanish music influence”

How about some Rico Suave…? LOL (Joking)

or some old Shabba Ranks?

Better yet some Pitbull…

jeffrey d

September 23rd, 2009
1:00 am

Guess you gotta defend your tardies record, eh?

jeffrey d

September 23rd, 2009
1:02 am

lol@Rico Suave

I’d been writing a few songs, and in one of them the intro sounded a little Spanish, so I wanted to expand on that. I’d been listening on Youtube to some Spanish music on classical guitars to get an idea of strumming and melodies. I really like the music this guy wrote.

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
1:03 am

i think i’ll pull an all nighter. Drank to much Mountain Dew.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
1:05 am

Lol, Jeff, I’m going to pull an all nighter too…

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
1:06 am

Drank to much Mountain Dew.

You know what that stuff does to your sperm??

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
1:07 am

Lets go Angels, Lets go!

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
1:07 am

No, JJ i dont.

Go Angels?

jeffrey d

September 23rd, 2009
1:08 am

Not me…I spent way too much time on all this Spanish music. Bedtime for me.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
1:09 am

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
1:12 am

It lowers its motive…

I want the Yankees to lose

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
1:13 am

Ah…..

Yes, Go Angels!!

David O'Brien

September 23rd, 2009
1:21 am

Salamander: You mentioned Jermaine Dye and his terrible second-half numbers. Another that many wanted the Braves to pursue last winter was Pat Burrell. He’s hitting .232 with a .385 slugging percentage and .714 OPS.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
1:29 am

Go Angels indeed…

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
1:30 am

sum guy

September 23rd, 2009
1:32 am

yanks up 1 in the top of the 9th

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
1:36 am

Yanks 6-5 in the bottom of the ninth…

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
1:37 am

I get the feeling that would might see a St. Louis-New York Yankee World Series, again.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
1:40 am

If I’m a left handed batter and facing Mo. I’m wearing two cups…

sum guy

September 23rd, 2009
1:40 am

one on, nobody out

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
1:42 am

My picks at the start of the 2009 season for the world series is Cardinals vs. Twins… Cardinals overall… I’m looking pretty good…

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
1:43 am

Twins are coming on strong. I think they’ll pass Detroit.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
1:43 am

Bunt dumbass!

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
1:45 am

I know they will…

My Favorite Teams:

1. Braves (by a large large margin)
2. Twins
3. Cardinals
4. Chicago White Sox
5. Texas Rangers

sum guy

September 23rd, 2009
1:45 am

double play …. ouch

Tomahawkin

September 23rd, 2009
1:46 am

“B”

It will be Phillies VS Yankees in the W. Series, Bank on It!

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
1:46 am

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
1:46 am

My Favorite Teams

1. Braves (of course)
2. Rays
3. Angels

sum guy

September 23rd, 2009
1:47 am

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
1:47 am

Neither the Phillies nor the Yankees will make the World Series… Bank on THAT

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
1:48 am

Sorry Tomahawkin aint gonna happen. If the playoffs were to start today what would the matchups be?

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
1:49 am

Oh, I liked the Rays too, I want to see who would win a series between them and the Braves… They’re so alike…

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
1:51 am

I think Mike Scioscia is one of the best managers in the game.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
1:52 am

Yankees vs. Twins
Angels vs. BoSox

Phillies vs. Rockies
Cardinals vs. Dodgers

I think…

P. W. Hjort

September 23rd, 2009
1:53 am

1. Braves (by a large large margin)
2. Twins
3. Cardinals
4. Chicago White Sox
5. Texas Rangers

That’s my list exactly.

Soriano is now at 92 strikeouts. He’s got a decent shot at 100 K’s on the season.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
1:54 am

PWHjort,

Its like we’re destined to be best friends… =)
Really though? EXACTLY?

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
1:55 am

If thats correct JJ, I really could see a Cardinals Twins World Series as you said earlier. That would be a good series.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
1:56 am

I wish they had M&M back, they’d be sure fire picks for the ALC

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
1:57 am

I find myself watching the Midnight Special infomercial. ha!

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
2:01 am

I find myself watching the Midnight Special infomercial. ha!

When you watch a infomercial, you always think, “Who the hell is watching this?” But the irony is, everyone is watching it, thinking the aforementioned question

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
2:03 am

JJ, so true.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
2:06 am

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…

MVP award should go to the Most Valuable Player. If the Braves make the postseason, the NL MVP should be Martin Prado. Why? Because he jump-started this team’s recent success. The AL MVP is clearly Joe Mauer, Why? Because the Twins would be no where without him. The NL MVP shouldn’t be Albert Pujols, Why? Because the Cardinals are fully capable of winning their division without him. I think the NL MVP should be Kung Fu Panda (providing they make the postseason), or Troy Tulowitzki… Of couse that will never happen. Sure Albert Pujols is better than Pablo, Troy, and Martin, but he isn’t more valuable to each players respective teams. Also, why aren’t pitchers considered for the MVP award? It not equal to the Cy Young Award… The Hank Aaron award is equal to the Cy Young Award. One acknowledges the best pitcher in a league and another the best hitter. Note it doesn’t say “valuable.” It would be pretty hard to the Giants to keep pace without Tim Lincecum…

I guess what I’m trying to say is, It’s the “Most Valuable Player” not the “Most Best Player,” and I think a part of that is because of grammar (Ba Bump Tissss).

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
2:08 am

Interesting Perspective JJ

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
2:14 am

Yeah? You should check out my blog…

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
2:16 am

Yeah, i just might do that. I think ive visited b4.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
2:23 am

Good, how you doing on your all nighter?

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
2:25 am

ARG! I have to work on a German accent which sucks because I kickass at EVERY OTHER accent except German…

Nelson S.

September 23rd, 2009
2:30 am

Saw this on ESPN fantasy baseball. Jurrjens has 23 quality starts this season. Only five players have more than that: Felix Hernandez, Zack Greinke, Dan Haren, Cliff Lee and Tim Lincecum.

Nice.

Frank from KS (now living in CO)

September 23rd, 2009
2:34 am

Well, whoever said the Phils make it to the WS is a bit out in the left field with that prediction.

Phils might make it into the playoffs…but they ain’t going any farther with as bad as Lidge as thrown this year even WITH his big number of saves,

He’s blown like 9, 10 or more saves this season.

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
2:36 am

JJ im hanging in there. Just started working oN a Brit Lit Presentation. to kill some time. I work better when its quiet lol

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
2:38 am

Hmm, I see. I’m working on my German…

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
2:41 am

Hate foreign languages. I had spanish in the spring but dropped after the 1st class. i hadn’t taken a foreign language since my junior year of high school.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
2:43 am

No, lol. Just the accent, for theatre…

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
2:47 am

Oh, my bad. Does have anything to do with that play you were talking bout a few days back?

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
2:54 am

Yeah, I’m a theatre enthusiastic…
I play a man who pretends to be Irish and then pretend to be from Queens and reveal he is German… :roll: I’m good with EVERY accent but German…

Hows that brite light project coming along…

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
2:56 am

Im getting no where. Its on Ulysses by Byron(?).

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
3:00 am

Lol. I never had those… Did you also get the markers that didn’t make a mess and the foam that you can ruin your action figures with…

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
3:02 am

No not Brite Lite lol British Literature. And I dont remember lol

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
3:08 am

OMFG! I feel like a dumpkorpf… See? I’m getting somewhere…

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
3:09 am

Ha ha. Im gonna turn in. Night/Mornin’ whatever!

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
3:11 am

GASP! You can fall asleep on an all nighter!

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
3:12 am

If you wait around long enough somebody else will come creepin back to the ole blog. lol

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
3:23 am

Lol. I meant you can’t fall asleep…

Nolie

September 23rd, 2009
3:38 am

Braves had six 100-win campaigns during their run and didn’t win a World Series in any of those seasons has not left me bitter.(CHOP)

didn’t leave me bitter…and I’m not lying.

Nolie

September 23rd, 2009
3:41 am

I think Mike Scioscia is one of the best managers in the game. (Brandon)

I don’t like his overaggressive offensive approach. other than that I agree, but not the best

Joe D. loves Marilyn

September 23rd, 2009
4:32 am

Well…here are the latest numbers…not pretty…and our chances dropped a little more when the Padres rally fell short on Tuesday night. ESPN has us now with only a 4% chance for the playoffs…

Chance…1 out of 25…just a little better than winning the mega-millions jackpot…

NL Wild Card W-L GB Elim. #

Colorado 85-65 — —
San Francisco 81-69 4 9
Atlanta 80-70 5 8
Florida 80-71 6 7
Chicago 77-72 7.5 6

BELIEVE???

Dear Florida and Alabama:

September 23rd, 2009
7:32 am

Brandon from Warner Robins-

I love that Midnight Special infomercial, lol. I always watch it when I see it on

richbrave

September 23rd, 2009
8:17 am

The team that runs the table gets in. We’ve got the best pitching, and best schedule from here on out. 13-0, we’ve got to go. GO BRAVES.

Soph

September 23rd, 2009
8:32 am

I love the music from the link that jeffrey posted last night. Very beautiful.

bird

September 23rd, 2009
8:37 am

Yo, did DOB ever answer one of the first comments on the blog about Cox and Wren???

Lew

September 23rd, 2009
8:38 am

bird-Bradley’s blog is all about the (non) situation between Cox and Wren.

avocado

September 23rd, 2009
8:50 am

separated at birth: schafer and christopher walkenEnter your comments here

DAP

September 23rd, 2009
9:01 am

jurrjens4NLCYSure Albert Pujols is better than Pablo, Troy, and Martin, but he isn’t more valuable to each players respective teams.

i disagree with this. pujols will always be the most valuable player on his respective team, and the cards need him desperately.

oh and the german accent is all in the vowels. if you over-do all the vowel sounds youll be on the right track. and, keep in mind that most germans learn british english, not american english, so it influences how it comes out.

All I'm Saying Is...

September 23rd, 2009
9:04 am

Did DOB interview Soriano after he saved the game?

Seriously, did DOB or Rogers seek an interview with Soriano after he performed successfully in a save situation?

Does anyone know?

Or do you think they only seek out closers when they blow a save?

Because I bet if they — DOB, Rogers, and anyone else from AJ/C — talked to closers after every save, successful or not, then the closers would be more apt to respect them and talk to them?

Come to think of it, I bet some of the position players feel the same way.

All I’m saying is you need to talk to players after they do their job and after they don’t do their job instead of only talking to closers after they blow a save (which all of them do) and then criticizing them if they don’t want to talk to your hypocritical self.

LET’S GO BRAVES!

Anders

September 23rd, 2009
9:05 am

Glad to see the AJC catching up to the news reported in the NY Daily News last weekend.

I’ll let you guys know how this Cox/Wren thing turns out.

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
9:07 am

McFann =Ô=
September 22nd, 2009
8:43 pm

…I mean, obviously I wouldn’t want him to play if he wasn’t gonna be able to (as he would say) “swing the bat”…

In Bowmen’s article: “If I can swing the bat, then I’m definitely going to play,” McCann said.

The dude is like an open book to me. :P

Anders

September 23rd, 2009
9:12 am

BTW- They were talking about the Cox/Wren thing on Mike and Mike on ESPN this morning. You see, getting talked about on ESPN isn’t always what it’s cracked up to be. As they say, “Be careful what you wish for”.

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
9:12 am

JJ4NLCY I feel like a dumpkorpf

:lol: Dum Kopf…

DAP most germans learn british english, not american english, so it influences how it comes out.

Yeah…’s like the guy who plays Col. Klink. He even said “bloody thing” in an outtake…

Jim

September 23rd, 2009
9:14 am

New start is needed in Atlanta. Bobby’s time has come and Wren is over his head and needs to go (ie.,over paid contracts for Lowe and Kawakami, mishandling of legends Glavine & Smoltz, Furcal dealings).

Lew

September 23rd, 2009
9:18 am

Time to go do something productive. The Totally Disaffected Lunatic Fringe has arrived for the day shift.

brent a.

September 23rd, 2009
9:21 am

I think our chance to make a dent in the lead comes during the Colorado-St. Louis series. Naturally, we have to do our part and not blow games.

One loss, that’s the most the Braves can afford, and even that may be too much. It would be great to see Colorado go into that series with the Dodgers with no more than a 2 game lead (less would be better, but I’m trying to be reasonable).

The Rockies go into that series knowing that the Braves are gonna sweep the Nats ;-) , and maybe they’ll play tight against the Dodgers.

I really think the Braves may go 10-1 down the stretch.

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
9:22 am

Lew The Totally Disaffected Lunatic Fringe has arrived for the day shift.

You talkin’ about me?

;)

Lew

September 23rd, 2009
9:26 am

McFann-Not in this instance.

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
9:31 am

Lew Not in this instance.

:lol: Thanks a lot…

Lew

September 23rd, 2009
9:32 am

McFann-Just keeping you on your toes. That is, if you haven’t taken to wearing swim fins in Atlanta these days.

David O'Brien

September 23rd, 2009
9:33 am

Chance…1 out of 25…just a little better than winning the mega-millions jackpot… — Joe D. Loves Marilyn

You think you have only slightly worse than a 1-in-25 chance of winning the mega-millions jackpot, huh? Then I’m guessing you buy multiple lottery tickets on a regular basis.

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
9:38 am

Lew

Haha! No sweat…I like it!

That is, if you haven’t taken to wearing swim fins in Atlanta these days.

Ha, not quite…all the water’s gone from our yard, but on Monday it was a mess…we get a mini-river thing going on when it rains hard enough, and Monday was the probably hardest rain we’ve ever had!

No rain yesterday and none so far today, though! :)

Lew

September 23rd, 2009
9:38 am

And if you don’t play, you can’t win at all. One in 25 beats the hell out of no shot at all because you’re mathematically eliminated.

David O'Brien

September 23rd, 2009
9:38 am

All I’m Saying Is …. That I don’t think you understand quite how tight the deadline is for getting in our write-thru stories with quotes after a night game. At the AJC and most newspapers, we’re lucky if we have time to get the manager, the starting pitcher and one or possibly two people who did something to have a major impact in the game.

Converting on a routine save is not usually a “major impact” on the game, particularly not when a closer starts the ninth inning with more than a one-run lead and doesn’t blow it. If you’re covering a team with a closer (such as Smoltz a few years back) who converts about 50 saves, you don’t wait around and talk to him after one-third of the team’s games, to get him to say things such as “well, I did my job and they didn’t get any runs” for a quote that adds nothing to the game story. No more than you go to the first baseman who made a couple of nice scoops at first base and ask him about not letting those balls get past. That’s not something you’d ask about, either. It’s doing the job as expected.

But if those balls got past the first baseman, or if the first baseman dropped a pop-up in foul territory and it led to the tying or winning run, we’d sure be there to ask him about it. That’s the nature of the beast. It had a direct, major impact on the game, or even decided the game.

Anders

September 23rd, 2009
9:39 am

DOB- I was looking through some of the old posts yesterday and saw one of your’s listing shows you like. I saw Arrested Development on there which was a great show. Probably one of the best that for whatever reason never got to the mainstream. I put it up there with Soap as a groundbreaking type of show.

Anyway, A show I’ve watched off and on that I never see mentioned on here is “Flight Of The Choncords”. It’s on HBO. Those two guys are really ingenious. It’s the kind of show you have to stay with for a few viewings to get what they’re trying to do, but once you do you see how talented these guys are. Plus the guy who plays their agent is great too. Have you seen this show?

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
9:39 am

Haha! From Yahoo!:

The All-Star catcher appeared to get hit by a foul ball in the bottom of the third inning.

He didn’t just “appear” to get hit, and it was in the second inning.

David O'Brien

September 23rd, 2009
9:44 am

Anders, Flight of the Conchords is hilarious. I just, for whatever reason, haven’t watched it on a regular basis. I’ll go to OnDemand and watch about three of them at a time, then forget or put it off and not watch another for two months. But yes, it’s quite funny.

Anders

September 23rd, 2009
9:50 am

DOB – I have the same issue with that show. I just can’t seem to get it on my dance card on a regular basis. Truly a sleeper show that will be ruined when they try to make a movie out of it.

Hillbilly

September 23rd, 2009
9:53 am

DOB,

I won’t give any spoilers, but I’m assuming you didn’t get back in time to catch the second showing of last night’s Sons of Anarchy?

David O'Brien

September 23rd, 2009
10:00 am

So a few of you apparently think that if I or Bowman had heard in spring training that Bobby packed his car and was ready to head home because of a squabble(s) with Wren, we wouldn’t have reported it? Believe me, if either of us had heard that story from a reliable source and felt certain — and our editors agreed — that it was true, I know that either of us — I probably shouldn’t speak for Bowman, but I will — would have reported it. That would have been a hell of a scoop in spring training, the kind you certainly never would pass up if you got it confirmed by one of the parties involved or if you and your editors felt strongly enough that your source was reliable (and, or course, you would ask the parties directly for a reaction and tell them what you’ve got on record from a reliable source).

I read a comment from someone critical (imagine that) of no one having this story until now, someone incredulous that we hadn’t heard about this. As though we all are staying in close quarters during spring training and we could have looked out our window and seen Bobby in the early morning hours, angrily packing his car in the parking lot and murmuring aloud about the GM, something like that.

If this story is true — Gordon is a very good writer and reporter; as some of you know since I’ve mentioned it before, I worked with him at the Sun-Sentinel and he’s actually the guy who asked me to come over to cover the Marlins with him, before he left for Boston — then it’s something that was told to one writer by one upset source who didn’t tell anyone else at the time. It happens. Some sources say something once and never say it again.

They don’t gather us reporters to tell us these things. And we don’t go to coaches and players or the manager or GM each day during spring training and ask, “Is there any potentially career-changing tension going on with you this spring that you’d be willing to share?” or “Did any major drama go on after you left the ballpark yesterday following the workout, any fight with a boss or a player that involved you or anyone you’ve heard about and that you care to divulge? No? OK, good, then let’s discuss pitching plans and how Lowe’s doing with his blister….”

Anders

September 23rd, 2009
10:11 am

And we don’t go to coaches and players or the manager or GM each day during spring training and ask, “Is there any potentially career-changing tension going on with you this spring that you’d be willing to share?” or “Did any major drama go on after you left the ballpark yesterday following the workout, any fight with a boss or a player that involved you or anyone you’ve heard about and that you care to divulge? No? OK, good, then let’s discuss pitching plans and how Lowe’s doing with his blister….” (DOB)

Lowe had a blister all the way back in ST? How come you’re just telling us this now? {:

bravesgrl4life

September 23rd, 2009
10:16 am

DO’B – musta been a late night – you’re kinda prickly this a.m. Not saying it’s uncalled for or anything, just happened to notice it. GO BRAVES!

Lew

September 23rd, 2009
10:17 am

Anders-I actually laughed at that one.

DAP

September 23rd, 2009
10:24 am

i think its pretty obvious that derek lowe has not been an ace this season. he just hasnt been a shut-down type of pitcher. but looking at his game log, it seems like there are a handful of starts where he got shelled, and other than that was pretty solid. i count 20 quality starts, and if not for a couple of rained out starts, he might have 22, which is pretty good. he went through a really good stretch to begin the season, then went through a bad stretch and rebounded. to me, he has only had 1 really bad start since that shelling he got in new york.

Danga

September 23rd, 2009
10:26 am

Agreed about Flight of Conchords. You are the prettiest girl in the room is one of the funniest songs I have ever heard.

Daslied

September 23rd, 2009
10:29 am

Jim – really? You’re bashing Bobby for being out of touch, or whatever you’re saying, while immediately following that with disain for Wren because of Glavine, Smoltz and Furcal? Apparently, if you ran the team, we would have Glavine and Smoltz in the rotation (at the expense of Hanson and who, Lowe? KK?) and Furcal at SS. Furcal would mean Yunel at second base and no Prado.

That’s almost as crazy a statement as the “We win 10 of 12 but still will miss the playoffs because of Bobby” crap from last night. (I don’t remember who said that.)

BTW, saying “Bobby’s time has come” is technically a statement of support.

Lew

September 23rd, 2009
10:32 am

DAP-I watched the Braves on the Mets’ feed last night. Hernandez and Darling had apparently talked with Lowe prior to the game and they reported that he said this was his worst season, that his mechanics had been screwed up all year. He said that he has a problem with letting losses go and that he had kept trying to make changes to correct the problems (by watching beaucoup film) and when looking at film of his best (to him) season when he felt comfortable, he found there was no comparison between his form then and now.

He obviously has adjustments to make, but it appears that he is not only aware and not happy with his results, but will eventually figure out what the problem is and get his mechanics back in order.

David O'Brien

September 23rd, 2009
10:32 am

Anders, that was funny, about the Lowe blister….

Just to finish up on my previous post. As beat writers (and same for columnists when they come out) you hear things every day, virtually every time we’re in the clubhouse or talking to this particular player, or to this team official or that one. Much of it is said off the record, some of it is conveyed with body language meant to tell you that what the person just said is entirely b.s.., so use it accordingly or at least know that it’s b.s. Much of it is said on background, or with an undrerstanding, either stated or simply conveyed through the trust you’ve developed with that person, that you won’t use it in any way that can lead back to this person.

These are matters and situations that, in this role, you’ve got to weigh and juggle every day, every time you write. Do you use this or that info knowing that this person or that is not going to want to talk to you again or give you anything good again? Is it too good, too important, to not use, regardless of what it means for any future relationship with this person as a source or just as a good quote? Do you convey to the readers the tension you know exists between this player or that, or between this team official and that player, or how little respect this person has for that one? You might use 10 percent of such info in anything you write, and have to keep the rest to yourself because you don’t think it’s either: a. going to lead directly to any decision or action that affects the team either in the immediate future or long term, or b. the person told you it was off the record, and if it gets out it’s going to be obvious to this person, who probably knows exactly how many people he’s told or how many others are aware of something he’s told you about, that you broke a stated or understood agreement with him not to use the info on record.

Again, it’s subtle stuff you have to weigh every day, what to use and what to allow to color what you write in order to try to convey to readers without stating things directly. Do we hear about tensions between parties every day, between high-profile parties even? Of course. But if you start writing about every relationship, about the tension you might know exists between this person or that, and you’re a beat writer around the team every day — as opposed to a writer in another city or a national reporter writing a story that you heard from a good source about a team you don’t have day-to-day dealings with — you’re going to have to decide whether it’s worth cutting off that source by writing the story now. In other words, is this story big enough and going to have direct impact enough, right now, to risk not getting information from that source going forward for multiple stories, for many, many other stories you need to write using info on and off the record from that source?

All these are things that must be considered by those in my position. It’s just part of the job. Unfortunately, it’s impossible to express the complicated nature of covering any beat — government, crime, a sports team — to people who aren’t in the business and don’t necessarily care to hear that it’s not always cut-and-dried and you don’t always get to share everything you know. Particularly in a unique situation, like when you’re dealing with people and personalities who are together in close quarters for nine months of the year, like, say, a baseball team. You have to realize that sometimes you’re going to need to let a columnist or a reporter who’s not assigned to your team write something you know to be true but you can’t write because you need to keep covering the team and keep writing news and inside info every day that you’re going to get because of relationships with people that you need to cultivate and not burn just to have a sexy story that might ultimately not be the be-all, end-all story it would have to be for you to judge it worthy of ending a working relationship with a valuable source.

OK, hopefully my point was made. I’m sure some will say it’s just excuse-making or trying to dismiss the story that was written. Not at all. As I said, Gordon Edes is a damn good reporter and writer, a friend of mine who attended my wedding. I’m not questioning anything he wrote, and never would. It wouldn’t be the first time he’s scooped me or hundreds of others.

Ken Griffey Jr.

September 23rd, 2009
10:34 am

I think you would get Tim Hudson’s approval before reporting a story…

coach joe

September 23rd, 2009
10:34 am

lowe- 15 wins may end up with 17 wins.

soriano- 24 saves out of 27?

whats wrong with those numbers.. go braves..

Lew

September 23rd, 2009
10:34 am

Daslied-Damn Dude, there you go again talking sense. When will you learn?

Brad in MT

September 23rd, 2009
10:34 am

Good Morning all…did anyone read Peter Gammons article on ESPN about potentially adding a second wild card team in each league? It sure would make these last few weeks much more exciting….personally I do think its a great idea to have the two wild card teams play each other in a short series, esp. since it would somewhat reward the division champs, since the current system does not.

David O'Brien

September 23rd, 2009
10:34 am

Hillbilly, this hotel doesn’t have FX, unfortunately. So I didn’t see Sons. But I’ll either see it on a replay at my D.C. hotel, or have to wait and watch when I get home Sunday night.

Isn’t it great when a show is so good you eagerly anticipate watching it every week? SOA is such a show.

Danga

September 23rd, 2009
10:42 am

That is an interesting idea. Generally, I am against watering down the playoffs anymore than they are. I do like the idea of rewarding a team for winning their division. That being said, the division winners are not always the best teams in the league. Two of the best teams in the majors are in the AL east every year, and it has happened in other divisions. The unbalanced schedule makes it more difficult to determine if the division winners are actually best best team in the majors, and God forbid it end up like the NBA with sub .500 teams making it into the playoffs. Even if said team is from Atlanta. :)

jack bull

September 23rd, 2009
10:43 am

dave, see if you can find something out for me please, i’m puzzled,,,, i want to know exactly why Mcloud is hitting leadoff..a few things here1) he has stated that he really doesn’t like it, i know, i know, he should do what ever it is he’s told too, but hear me out, 2) is he still hurt? i’ve seen SEVERAL times recently when he’ reached first with 2 outs with Prado coming up and he’s yet to attempt a steal..happened last night late in the game, AGAIN.. even joe simpson has made the comment that that was a perfect time to try and swipe a base to get into scoring position and see if the hot bat of Prado can knock you in and get a little insurance run. and if it doesn’t succeed, well, you have Prado leading off the next inning. seems to me that Bobby just isn’t giving us an aggressive attempt to put a run on the board…and if he is hurt, well then, he shouldn’t be hitting in that spot in the lineup..it just doesnt give us the best chance to score.. maybe diaz could go back to the top, at least he’s aggressive on the basepads..last thing, i thought that Mcloud was our one(pretty much) base stealer..and if he’s not going to make any attempts, move him down in the order..anyway, i guess my question is, is mcloud hurt or too hurt to steal any bases?? thx

Lew

September 23rd, 2009
10:44 am

DOB-I don’t know if you get into the more fantasy genres, but True Blood is a damned good show, too. The same Dude who put together Six Feet Under did this one. It’s got great acting, great effects and plenty of the more salacious elements most of us can’t live without like sex and blood. You would absolutely love the soundtrack.

Salamander

September 23rd, 2009
10:46 am

Intriguing perspective on beat reporting DOB.

I love the psychology of it all – I’m sure it can be a pain in the ass to deal with on a day-to-day basis, but as an outsider, its fascinating to hear the different priorities you have to weigh.

I love shop talk (yeah I’m boring), keep up the good work!

Lew

September 23rd, 2009
10:46 am

Danga-No sub .500 team in Atlanta this year. If we were to lose the rest of our games, we will end up 81- 81.

Lew

September 23rd, 2009
10:48 am

jack bull-I didn’t know that Dennis Weaver lead off for the Braves. Our center fielder is named McLouth-not Mcloud.

Hillbilly

September 23rd, 2009
10:49 am

Yeah, DOB,
I can’t get enough of it. In fact I watched it both times last night.

David O'Brien

September 23rd, 2009
10:50 am

Lew, I intend to try getting into that show, True Blood, after the baseball season ends. Because I hear nothing but great things about it. But I haven’t watched a single episode, and I think it’s one I need to watch from the beginning, right?

Danga

September 23rd, 2009
10:50 am

Good to know Lew. We should go ahead and sweep the Mets tonight to ensure a winning record on the year. It really is a remarkable improvement over last year.

GboroBravo

September 23rd, 2009
10:52 am

DOB you def. need to watch True Blood from the beginning…have you watched Lost yet? If not I would recommend watching that in your spare time.

Daslied

September 23rd, 2009
10:53 am

Lew – sorry. Couldn’t help it that time. :)

Lowe has allowed more than 3 earned runs in 7 of 32 starts (22%). Javy’s allowed more than 3 in 8 of 30 starts (27%). I think the perception is skewed because when Lowe’s been bad he’s been REALLY bad. I know he’s had a few short games with 3 ER allowed, but that’s not exactly a game killer. Well, for most teams. :)

Anders

September 23rd, 2009
10:55 am

DOB- I completely get your 10:32 post and I think what you wrote is fair and honest. That said, what I’ve tried to convey on here is that based on just those reasons much of the muck and mire that goes on in lesser covered towns like Atlanta goes unreported, for good reason. In NY, with so much media competition and the pressure the newspaper guys and tv media are under for eyeballs I think they’re more inclined to say “f… it, go for the story, we’ll worry about the relationship later.” Therefore, it appears like the NY, LA, Boston etc.. teams are much more volatile in all ways when in many cases it’s just because it’s more reported. In other words “Crap happens everywhere.”

bravesgrl4life

September 23rd, 2009
10:57 am

When Lowe is good he’s REALLY good, but when he’s bad, he’s just REALLY, REALLY bad. Still, I like the guy. Was even considering his name on the jersey I am supposed to get for Christmas. Have discontinued that line of thought as I don’t think he’ll be with us for more than a few years. Thinking now I’m either gonna get McCann or Hanson. I know, McFann, your vote is for Mac :)

Lew

September 23rd, 2009
10:59 am

DOB-Pretty much. It is definitely a series and each episode is dependent on the previous one. They just finished season two (one is out on DVD) and won’t start season three until next June (they begin production right after Christmas). You can In Demand the second season, but probably NOT the first. However, I’m technologically challenged, so maybe they are available and I’m clueless.

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
11:00 am

bravesgrl4life I know, McFann, your vote is for Mac

Wow… 8O you’re good! How did you ever arrive at that? ;)

Lew

September 23rd, 2009
11:02 am

Salamander-Your sacrifice of The Double Pits Dude to the Chopping Cow must have worked. The Braves have played 17 games over .500 since you brought out your machete.

Anders

September 23rd, 2009
11:02 am

Lew- Having watched the Mets feeds you have to admit that their announcers really speak well of the Braves and their organization. They gush about Bobby Cox. I know you’re not a big fan but I’m telling you that Darling and Hernandez are as objective as they come. They rip the Mets regularly.

BTW- Hernandez isn’t sold on LaRoche. In his words “He strikes out an awful lot and he’s got a swing that can be pitched to”. The guy knows what he’s talking about so take it for what it’s worth.

Lew

September 23rd, 2009
11:02 am

McFann-Process of elimination? Intuition? Good guess?

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
11:04 am

Lew

Probably intuition–you know how we women are with that. ;)

bravesgrl4life

September 23rd, 2009
11:04 am

McFann :wink: back atcha, kiddo

DAP

September 23rd, 2009
11:04 am

lew, i hope thats the case for lowe. while he hasnt been horrible, it would be nice to get more consistant performances out of our $15mil per year investment. remember that first start of his this season, against the phillies? man, did he look sharp…

Lew

September 23rd, 2009
11:06 am

Interesting fact about our pitching staff. If my count is accurate (and it’s damned close, if not spot on), the Braves’ starters have given up three runs or less in over 90 games this season (all but ten of those games it was TWO runs or less). Now granted a couple of rain shortened starts are included (like Hanson’s loss to Philly a week or so ago) but nonetheless, that is an incredible stat. It meant (at the very least) that we were in over 90 games this year that the starters gave us a chance of winning.

David O'Brien

September 23rd, 2009
11:07 am

GBoroBravo: No way do I have the spare time to get into Lost. I’ve got too many shows already. And I watched an early episode or two of Lost. Just didn’t do a lot for me (I know I’m in minority on that one, but is what it is.) I’d rather watch movies than TV series I’m not entirely into. And there’s already a handful of dramas (and as many comedies) that I’m entirely into. If I’m adding more, it’s probably gonna be cable fare, since that’s usually better, edgier, with more of the “elements” I like.

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
11:08 am

bravesgrl4life

And just think–if you got a Red BMac Jersey, we’d be like twins! Uh…the good kind, ya know…not the baseball team…

:P

Lew

September 23rd, 2009
11:09 am

Anders-They are much better than most of the other teams’ announcers that I’ve seen (though Gary Cohen ain’t all that). They DO have nice things to say about Bobby (and I wish more detractors realized that this is common throughout ALL of baseball) and think that as far as field Managers go, Bobby is one of the all time best. But they’re just professional baseball people who’ve been around the game for a few decades.. What do they know?

Anders

September 23rd, 2009
11:10 am

BTW- As I’ve been telling you guys, it’s only a matter of time before they consider adding another WC team to each league or something. The WC was originally added to allow teams a second way into the playoffs, especially those that didn’t want to spend like the Yankees. This was the trade off for no salary cap. Now that the AL has two teams in one division spending big $’s (Yanks and Red Sox) they’ve frozen out certainly the rest of the AL East for the most part as well as other AL teams not in first(Last year was a one in 10 shot for the Rays). So now there’s barely a WC race. Teams will start to complain. Could you imagine being an Oriole fan? They have no shot – none. Playoff expansion is coming imo. Too much money for these greedy owners to pass up.

Tomahawkin

September 23rd, 2009
11:11 am

Given the fact that Petey-Pablo hasn’t given up a homer all season…

Does anyone want to make him the closer next year and let both Gonzo and MFIKY walk…?

Use Easy-E as the 8th inning man and do auditions for the 7th inning man in S. Training, even though I think Booney can be fit for that job

David O'Brien

September 23rd, 2009
11:13 am

Talk about edgy television … Gadhafi speaking at U.N. for past 10 minutes or so. Frightening is the word that comes to mind. And unhinged.

bravesgrl4life

September 23rd, 2009
11:13 am

:lol: , McFann. Of course, I really would have liked to see Hanson in the speedo :) Off to lunch – early, I know, but that’s the way it is. See ya’ll in a bit.

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
11:16 am

bravesgrl4life Of course, I really would have liked to see Hanson in the speedo

8O

And after mentioning that you’re gonna go eat? :lol: See ya when you get back!

Lew

September 23rd, 2009
11:19 am

Tomahawkin-If Moylan were made the closer, it sure would be an inexpensive solution to the closer issue. It would save us over $8 million, which we could spend on a power bat and maye not be forced to trade pitching.

However, many here pointed out that Moylan’s LH/RH splits aren’t that great. His BAA is .75 more against LH hitters and his OPS is 225 points higher against LH hitters. He strikes out four times as many RHers than Lefties. Given that we have so many LH hitting rivals (Utley, Howard, Beltran) he might not be our best option. Might be worth a try, but if it wasn’t a successful move, we wouldn’t really be able to remedy the situation after the season starts.

Salamander

September 23rd, 2009
11:20 am

A potential announcement regarding Bobby’s future when the Braves get back to Atlanta?

From latest Bradley column:

“We’ll probably have an announcement when we get off this road trip.” [Bobby Cox]

DAP

September 23rd, 2009
11:22 am

lew, thats an amazing stat, and shows how awesome the braves pitching has been. it almost makes me sad to think about this season being lost because of the offense. im excited to see what wren does to fix the lineup like he did the pitching last year, and i really think the braves are right on the edge of being the class of the NL.

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
11:24 am

Anders [The Mets'] announcers really speak well of the Braves and their organization.

True…I mean, I only watched a little 1 1/2 clip of them, but one of ‘em did call BMac an “Iron Mann” behind the plate. ;)

DAP

September 23rd, 2009
11:26 am

i think if they lengthen the playoffs, they need to shorten the season.

tomohawkin Given the fact that Petey-Pablo hasn’t given up a homer all season…

Does anyone want to make him the closer next year and let both Gonzo and MFIKY walk…?

no, because lefties have really hit moylan well this season. i would not be comfortable with him closing games for us.

Anders

September 23rd, 2009
11:26 am

DOB- Regarding Gadhafi – Let’s just pray he never gets his hands on the things we all know he should never possess.

Frightening, unhinged + radical = Extremely Dangerous.

You in Manhattan today? If you are and you take a walk go over by the Four Season the Waldorf or any of those high end hotels their in the 50’s – 60’s streets. With this whole UN thing going on I guarantee you’ll see numerous black SUV convoys come and go all day with swat teams in full regalia (Masks, vests, automatic weapons). They shut down about half a block while moving these digniteries in and out of the hotels. You can stand and watch from about 100 feet.Kind of like you’re own scene from “24″. It’s funny to watch the NY’ers take it in stride like it’s no big deal.

Anders

September 23rd, 2009
11:28 am

McFann- They always say that McCann is the best catcher in the NL. Hernandez loves the way he hits. Say’s when he’s going right he’s stroking the ball to left center. That set’s him up to turn on the ball and go deep.

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
11:29 am

DAP i think if they lengthen the playoffs, they need to shorten the season.

Speaking for catcher-fans everywhere: Totally!

Poopy Pants

September 23rd, 2009
11:33 am

Anyone have ESPN Insider and mind posting Buster Olney’s article “Baseball could soon lose a giant”? I would appreciate it. Thanks

Shaun

September 23rd, 2009
11:34 am

DAP and Lew, I don’t think Wren has far to go. As I’ve said before, I suspect if McLouth and Church had been with the Braves all along instead of Francoeur and Schaefer, they would be right there with the Rockies and possibly right there with the Phillies.

groundfog

September 23rd, 2009
11:34 am

We are going to miss the wildcard by 4-5 games. I can think of at least 7 games cox blew just by his overuse of the bullpen and utter miusmanagement of the pitching staff. I hope he walks away.

Robert (Chipper Is The Best)

September 23rd, 2009
11:35 am

So, what do you guys think of the reported rift between Wren and Cox? I say its 100% true! I think Cox was never on board for the trading of Frenchy and if it had been up to him Smoltz and Glavine would be part of the rotation and Tommy Hanson would still be toiling in triple A.

I think Wren has the guts to do what JS didn’t and that is tell Cox that some of his ways are archaic and that his loyalty to some guys (Norton) is just asinine.

I think there is a 60/40 chance that Cox doesn’t return. Wren said the report was “inaccurate”. In other words it was true but maybe not in the way it was written.

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
11:37 am

Anders …McCann is the best catcher in the NL.

That is a fact that no one cann deny!! :) Seriously, though, good for them…sound like good announcers!

Hernandez loves the way he hits.

Then it musta been him who was saying the stuff in this clip about that swing he took just before the bunt–how it was a really long swing, and you don’t usually see McCann swing like that (he’s so right, too…only when there’s something not right do you see BMac take that kind of a swing).

BMac does have a really nice swing…even if I wasn’t his #1 Fann, I would still love his swing.

Says when he’s going right he’s stroking the ball to left center. That sets him up to turn on the ball and go deep.

Ye-ep…he’s only got 15 completely opposite field hits this year, but he has just as many hits towards center (57) as he has pulled.

DAP

September 23rd, 2009
11:37 am

as far as closers go, there are really alot of guys on the market, and i dont think it will be as hard to get one for a good price as people think. i think we could get soriano back with a very modest raise on his $6.3mil salary. but also out there is gonzalez, gregg, hoffman, rodney, valverde, and wagner, plus several other guys with closing experience, like brandon lyon, danys baez, chad cordero, isringhousen, percival, putz, saito, ect.

anyways, considering who is available and the teams who even need closers, the market is deep.

Will

September 23rd, 2009
11:42 am

DOB dont know if you saw this but looks like there is some tension between the KU football and basketball players….http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4496695

Rob from SC

September 23rd, 2009
11:43 am

Robert (Chipper Is The Best)

All I can say is thank goodness Cox is not the General Manager. We would have the oldest team in the majors. Cox needs to realize that it was time for Smoltz and Glavine to move on. Then again Cox thinks Norton is a top pinch hitter

Poopy Pants

September 23rd, 2009
11:45 am

Hello? Is this mic on?

Anders

September 23rd, 2009
11:49 am

Didn’t Bradley report that the Braves were possibly going to make an announcement regarding Cox when they return from this trip? If so, there’s no way they announce now that he’s retiring. They could still be in this thing, why would they want that distraction? I would say it’s more likely they announce he’s coming back for one more year just to put this all to rest. They have to say something as it’s now getting National attention.

They may announce who the manager in waiting is too since there may be numerous openings this off season and they may want to lock that guy up too.

Shaun

September 23rd, 2009
11:49 am

We are going to miss the wildcard by 4-5 games. I can think of at least 7 games cox blew just by his overuse of the bullpen and utter miusmanagement of the pitching staff. I hope he walks away.

I love this kind of analysis. Why don’t you list those games?

Also, let’s assume it’s true that Cox’s decisions with his bullpen cost the Braves runs. I would assume that the games were close, since the games were supposedly decided by the bullpen. Well, why point to Cox’s decisions with the bullpen as games he blew? Why not point to the Braves not scoring enough runs to that point or allowing too many runs to that point? Why not point to a play here or a play there that may have gone differently for one reason or another before that point?

Also, I’m assuming there were decisions Cox made that probably helped them win; at least a few. So don’t we have to determine how many good decisions Cox made if we want to get an accurate picture of whether he should stay or go.

I’m not pretending Cox is perfect, that I know how many good and bad decision he made or even that he should or shouldn’t stay. But I think evaluating managers is a lot more complex than folks on the blog would have us believe.

All I know for sure is that the Braves are going to end the season pretty close to where prognosticators who use tons of data in their projections had them at the start of the season. The Braves have neither underachieved nor overachieved relative to preseason projections. So I’m not sure Cox has cost the team a ton of games.

Daslied

September 23rd, 2009
11:53 am

DOB – one summer when you’re not busy (hah!) go rent every season of Lost. As a fellow Arrested/Sunny In Philly fan, I assure you that it’s not time wasted. It’s almost worth it for the music alone in the earlier seasons – obscure Willie Nelson, Blind Boys, Patsy Cline…excellent taste. AD is my all-time favorite comedy, by a mile, and Lost is my all-time favorite non-comedy.

Katie

September 23rd, 2009
11:58 am

This may have been talked about earlier, but what did those of you who watched the House premiere think of it? I don’t know if it was worth it to only have him in the loony bin for one episode, but I still liked it. And about True Blood, I tried to jump in this season and had no idea what was going on.

TnBrian(Vazquez ace 2010)

September 23rd, 2009
11:59 am

Shaun, you’re right. In 2010 Bobby will need CJ/Mac to be at their best, plus a guy that mashes the fu** out of the ball hitting between them, plus the starters to duplicate what they have done this year, plus the tired pen arms that he abuses to have rubber arms to get to the playoffs again. As you know, strategy ain’t Bobby’s game.

Poopy Pants

September 23rd, 2009
11:59 am

Dexter is hands down the best show on television. Blows True Blood out of the water (especially after TB’s awful 2nd season). You can find the first episode of Dexter’s 4th season online, and you’ll be hooked even if you’ve never seen the first 3 seasons

abwright

September 23rd, 2009
12:00 pm

David O’Brien, 9:38 am … “you don’t wait around and talk to him after one-third of the team’s games, to get him to say things such as “well, I did my job and they didn’t get any runs” for a quote that adds nothing to the game story.”

I can imagine that such a story would sound like Arnold Rimmer describing a Risk game.

And Wright hit a routine grounder to first which LaRoche fielded and stepped on the bag. Then Jurrjens threw a ball. After a strike, he threw another ball. And then, the real exciting thing happened. McCann went out to the mound for a chat. And so on, and so on, …

Poopy Pants

September 23rd, 2009
12:02 pm

True Blood’s first season was entertaining, but its 2nd season got way too weird and dragged out the Maryann storyline wayyyy too long. Got too hokey for me But Dexter is always bad ass

Anders

September 23rd, 2009
12:04 pm

abwright – What happened after McCann went out to the mound to chat? I’m sitting here waiting.

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
12:06 pm

Anders What happened after McCann went out to the mound to chat? I’m sitting here waiting.

Me, too! He was just getting to the good stuff…

O.J.

September 23rd, 2009
12:06 pm

Hey DOB, did you ever get a chance to watch the season premiere of House?? What did you think about it?

richbrave

September 23rd, 2009
12:09 pm

BRAVERS pull even with SAN FRAN and one ahead of MARLINS in the loss column. Unfettered with pretenders. Now the BRAVES can concentrate on the brass-ring and winning five more than the ROCKIES do from here on out. Isn’t it great to be interested in the season at this point! Even if our chances are four per-cent. I’ll take it.

O.J.

September 23rd, 2009
12:10 pm

Richbrave, wouldnt they have to win 6 more than the rockies do? Winning 5 more would only tie them up right?

Daslied

September 23rd, 2009
12:11 pm

I might be cool with Moylan closing.

Supposedly it takes 18 months following TJ surgery to fully heal and regain velocity, and he’s obviously not there yet. This year his fastball averages 89.3 mph, but in 2008 (before surgery) it was 92.6, and 92 the year before. I remember him touching 94-95 pretty often, but he hasn’t gotten back there yet. His slider is moving horizontally almost half as much as 2007 (and less than last year), and his fastball is moving a little less as well.

Given less velocity and less movement (especially in to lefties), the drastic difference against lefties (.778 OPS vs. .549 RH isn’t surprising. For his career (.702 LH vs. .575 RH OPS) there’s not as much of a difference.

He’s certainly got the personality for closing…

abwright

September 23rd, 2009
12:12 pm

Anders, 12:04 pm … “abwright – What happened after McCann went out to the mound to chat? I’m sitting here waiting.”

He rolled two sixes and took Kamchatka.

Anders

September 23rd, 2009
12:13 pm

He rolled two sixes and took Kamchatka (awbright)

Huh? Come again?

Jeff R

September 23rd, 2009
12:14 pm

Geez, adding another wild-card team to the playoffs without reducing the regular season means baseball in November or starting the season in March.

It’s crazy that the season goes as far as it does into the autumn. The game was never meant to be played in cold rain or with fans bundled up.

Expand the playoffs, fine. But cut the season back to 154 games, which is what it was prior to the 162 game schedule.

Anders

September 23rd, 2009
12:15 pm

Jeff R- Kill the All Star game while we’re at it. Complete waste of time imo.

RHR

September 23rd, 2009
12:15 pm

So DOB, now that Teixeria is gone was he really as bad as I’ve heard?

and did Leo really get a retire/quit/or fire ultimatum after the 05 NLDS?

:lol:

Just kidding…

Anyway, Dexter is great, I don’t get Lost or why people watch it – way way way too far out there for me, and Poopy Pants, I have insider, I’ll go check it out.

Pete

September 23rd, 2009
12:15 pm

Interesting how the Braves are the only team still involved in the WC race in both leagues to have less than 40 wins at home. Seems as if thats been a problem for the last couple years now (relatively poor home record), and its pretty unusual.
Any ideas why, DOB or anyone? I have none.

Anders

September 23rd, 2009
12:17 pm

Pete- One idea comes to mind for me. They play well in front of large crowds. {:

Jake W.

September 23rd, 2009
12:17 pm

Anders, to your 11:10 post i’ve been thinking the same thing. Of all the major sports the mlb has the least amount of teams that qualify for the postseason. NBA has the most so they are able to keep the attention of more than half of their teams for most of the season. The NFL has two wild cards and no division has more than four teams. There are 4 playoff spots in the AL and the Yankees with their payroll have almost always assured themselves a spot. A team like the orioles almost always have to think wild card but even that is hard because they have another high payroll team like the red sox to compete with and their division play is much tougher than the teams who play in the al west and al central.

You got to find a way to keep the interest in these teams longer. I think mlb needs to make some changes. The gap between the higher paid teams and the lower ones has become so large. The gap between the number 1 and 2 teams in payrolls in the mlb is almost as large as the gap between the highest paid team in the nba and the lowest. Its something that needs to be looked at if the mlb is looking for a little more parity instead of most of the same teams every year.

DAP

September 23rd, 2009
12:18 pm

anders He rolled two sixes and took Kamchatka is a risk reference. you know…the joke was describing everything like its a game of risk. ever play risk?

Anders

September 23rd, 2009
12:18 pm

Jake W – Don’t get me wrong. I’m not in favor of it. But I do think it’s coming.

Jeff R

September 23rd, 2009
12:19 pm

Anders, I’m with you. When I was a kid, the All Star game was special. It meant watching players face off who might never do so in a World Series. But with interleagure play now, it’s really taken a lot out of the All Star game. But it’s another revenue generator, so I doubt MLB would end it.

Poopy Pants

September 23rd, 2009
12:19 pm

I think Moylan has been fairly consistent all year, but at .250 BA against him doesn’t really get my loins moist if he came in the 9th inning.

Call me old school, but I think a hard thrower (95+) closer seems to work best. Look at Papelbon and K-Rod. After a starting pitcher’s stuff rarely is that fast on a consistent basis and their fastball slows down more and more the longer they are in the game, having a crazy side-arm setup guy with Moylan would perfectly fit with a hard thrower that will blow away guys at the end who have been used to swinging at pitches under 95 mph all game.

Anders

September 23rd, 2009
12:19 pm

DAP – Got it. I haven’t played risk in a very, very long time.

Katie

September 23rd, 2009
12:21 pm

Anders- I agree about the all star game, I hate the way it’s set up now. If they’re gonna have it count for home field, then I think the players and managers should vote for the starters and the fans can vote for reserves. Then they should get rid of the stupid rule that each team has to be represented

Jeff R

September 23rd, 2009
12:22 pm

Jake W. I think the NBA and NHL seasons are too long as well. Too many playoff teams, too many rounds. It goes on and on. I like hockey. Follow it. But a Stanley Cup in, what, late May, early June? Hockey’s a an autumn/winter game.

But, yes, it’s all about revenue, and a lot of fans like the longer seasons. But not me.

David O'Brien

September 23rd, 2009
12:24 pm

Pete, only Braves (39-35) and Marlins (41-36) don’t have much better home records than road records among remaining playoff contenders in both leagues. I don’t know why. The Marlins, I can understand — it’s a dreadful environment with tiny crowds. But Braves attendance hasn’t been so low as to eliminate the home-field advantage, or at least I wouldn’t think so.

Oddly, most of the AL contenders have far greater disparities in home/road records than NL contenders. For instance, Philly has a surprisingly modest 42-32 home record (45-29 road), while teams such as the Yankees (52-23 at home, 43-33 road) and especially Red Sox (52-22 home, just 37-38 road) have huge differences in home/road records. (AL records are before yesterday’s games, I’m glancing at my pregame stats package from last night).

Even the Cardinals, with their huge crowds and ever-supportive fans, are only 46-32 at home, which is hardly better than their road record.

White Blood Cells

September 23rd, 2009
12:24 pm

DOD,

Regarding your 10:54 post. Your explanation is not necessary, but thank you. I enjoy reading your coverage of the Braves. It’s kind of astonishing that people think you could report everything said. They must forget these players are human with careers to consider. My brother was a beat writer for a Major League team and he has told me many things that would never make a paper.

Pete

September 23rd, 2009
12:25 pm

Anders good point lol besides that, it just seems pretty strange to me. If memory serves me correctly (which is very questionable lol), its been that way for last 2-3 years.

Jeff R

September 23rd, 2009
12:26 pm

At one time, fans didn’t vote. As I recall (I was a kid), the managers picked the teams. And there was no “eavery team needs to be represented” stuff. It was all about the best. Somke teams, by today’s standards, were over represented. Some All Stars never left the bench or the bullpen. Those guys played for keeps. The game was taken much more seriously.

David O'Brien

September 23rd, 2009
12:27 pm

Anders: All-Star Game is a cash cow. No way they kill it. If it makes money, and the TV networks pay big dollars to show it, it stays. All about money. Everything in regards to scheduling, playoffs, etc, is about money. Always. Every time.

RHR

September 23rd, 2009
12:27 pm

I’m guessing DOB doesn’t want me copying and pasting insider blogs in here so whoever wants it leave your email address and i’ll send it when I get back from lunch in 30 mins.

Pete

September 23rd, 2009
12:27 pm

DOB thanks I noticed that also, and correct me if wrong but hasnt it been that way for Braves last couple years? My point is if Braves played just a little better at home this year, we’d be about 2 games back instead of 5.

bravesgrl4life

September 23rd, 2009
12:29 pm

Back from a great lunch, but gotta get some work done. Probably will have to watch game on GameDay tonight. Hubby gets off at 6 instead of 9, which on one hand is a good thing . . . Hopefully GameDay isn’t slower than molasses in winter. I might be back on in a coupla hours. Hope all are having a good “Hump Day!”

Poopy Pants

September 23rd, 2009
12:30 pm

Am I blocked on here? Test test test

Jake W.

September 23rd, 2009
12:31 pm

“But, yes, it’s all about revenue, and a lot of fans like the longer seasons. But not me.”

Thats what i’m talking about. Not necessarily the length of the seasons but how long you keep the interest of fans in the various. I think you keep their interest longer the longer they are involved in a playoff race, not how long the seasons are. I think the seasons can be shorter but you are right, they make more money with more games but if your team is out of it prior to the all-star break in baseball whats to keep the interest in towns like pittsburgh, kansas city, and baltimore. MLB has the most teams that are seemingly out of it every year and for a good length of time. I just think the league needs more parity personally.

David O'Brien

September 23rd, 2009
12:31 pm

Will, if KU hoops players were fighting other KU hoops players, or fighting the townies or other students in general, I’d care. But fighting football players? I’d say that’s probably actually a good sign. Probably means we’ve got a tough hombre or two on the hoops team that won’t back down.

Not a concern, to me. Now, if Sherron Collins or Cole Aldrich or any other key players gets hurt fighting in the middle of the season, I’d care. But a hoops player gets a dislocated finger punching a football player in September? Nah, not worrying about that. Call me jaded. But I like having some tough dudes on the hoops squad.

GboroBravo

September 23rd, 2009
12:34 pm

DOB I will be heading up to DC this weekend to catch the Friday and Saturday games, what are some good places to eat around DC?

abwright

September 23rd, 2009
12:37 pm

Tomahawkin, 11:11 am … “Given the fact that Petey-Pablo hasn’t given up a homer all season…”

Am I the only one last night who wanted to slap Boog for going on, and on, and on about how Moylan hadn’t given up a homer allllllll season long. Talk about trying to jinx the guy. Why not shut up about it til he’s finished pitching the inning.

Anders

September 23rd, 2009
12:38 pm

DOB- I agree. That’s my point. Selig and his band of thieves are killing this game. They’ve added WC, the WBC, an All Star game that is played as an exhibition but determines home field for the most important series of the year, interleague play, ignored the steroid issue. All in the last 15 to 20 years! What won’t these guys desecrate for a buck? More playoff teams will be next.

I think the baseball owners made an egregious error putting one of their own at the helm. There are no checks and balances to their thought process imo. I’d like to see one major decision Selig has made in favor of the best interest of the baseball rather than lining the owners pockets. Selig is operating like the Captain of the Titanic who ignored his insticts when faced with the pressures ownership put on him.

GboroBravo

September 23rd, 2009
12:39 pm

Another show you should look into DOB is Fringe…sorta of Xfiles feel to it.

Run Heap Run

September 23rd, 2009
12:39 pm

Meh…there isn’t anything in that insider piece that you haven’t already read elsewhere. Its just the lead story of a very long blog that includes a bunch of non-braves and non-baseball stuff.

Baseball could soon lose a giant

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Bobby Cox first mentioned walking away from baseball in the spring of 2008, and when word of this reached Gene Michael, a former teammate and longtime friend of Cox, Michael burst out laughing. “He’s not going anywhere,” Michael said. “He’s a lifer. What else is he going to do?”

Cox signed with the Dodgers in 1959, reached the majors in 1968 and played for a couple of seasons, and incredibly, this is the 29th year that Cox has managed a major league team. There will be a day when he will be inducted into the Hall of Fame. For those almost three decades’ worth of seasons, players have heard Cox cheerily call to them from the dugout and encourage them. He has always been known as a great manager to play for because he is supportive and positive and consistent, and his players feel like he treats them with respect, and doesn’t overwhelm them with rules or his own ego.

What has enabled Cox and Joe Torre to last as managers, I’ve always felt, is that they like players; they like people. They aren’t overwhelmed by any anger or bitterness toward the players that are increasingly younger than they are.

But it turns out that Gene Michael might be wrong.

For more on Bobby Cox, notes on the pennant races, the Greinke-Hernandez Cy Young battle, and much more, you must be an ESPN Insider. Insider

It is apparently possible that sometime during the postseason, Cox is going to walk away after 2,407 victories (and counting) as a manager. His contract is set to expire and he has declined to answer questions about whether he will be coming back for 2010. Braves general manager Frank Wren also declined to address Cox’s future over the phone on Tuesday evening, saying that there will be a discussion about the topic after the season, and then an announcement.

And if Cox walks away, baseball will lose a giant, no matter the circumstances. Only three managers have won more games — Connie Mack, John McGraw and Tony La Russa — and Cox has managed in more postseasons (15) than any other manager (Torre has 14 and almost certainly will tie him this offseason).

David O'Brien

September 23rd, 2009
12:40 pm

Anders, I’m not in Manhattan today, but stayed at Eastside Marriott during G8 thing a couple years ago, so I was directly across the street form Waldorf-Astoria and could watch that scene from my 10th-floor window, not to mention every time I went outside and walked in any direction. There were black SUVs and security dudes in suits and sunglasses and earpieces everywhere you turned.

Anders

September 23rd, 2009
12:42 pm

DOB- Staring you up and down – right? Kind of shows you the world we live in unfortunately.

abwright

September 23rd, 2009
12:42 pm

Anders, 12:13 pm … “Huh? Come again?”

Returning to the Arnold Rimmer, Red Dwarf reference from my earlier post.

No, it was probably not very funny unless you had seen the episode where Rimmer describes a Risk game in excruciating detail.

David O'Brien

September 23rd, 2009
12:42 pm

Poopy Pants: Why would someone calling himself or herself Poopy Pants be blocked? I mean, it’s just adorable.

RemoW

September 23rd, 2009
12:44 pm

DOB has a good point. It is all about generating dollars. That being the case I am surprised that commissioner Selig is against expanding the playoffs. Even if just by 1 team.

Look at the excitement about this Braves team. Realistically we don’t have a great chance to make the post season. But if we win 5 and the Rockies lose 4. (Not saying that will happen) It gets real interesting.

So expanding the number of playoff teams would up attendance and add some more drama to the post season.

Imagine 1 more spot for the post season (2 wildcard teams) you have a 3 way race with the Giants, Marlins, and Braves. Plenty of excitement to keep that fans into baseball instead of losing them to football.

Run Heap Run

September 23rd, 2009
12:46 pm

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
12:46 pm

jake W When I was a kid, the All Star game was special. It meant watching players face off who might never do so in a World Series. But with interleagure play now, it’s really taken a lot out of the All Star game.

Yeah, I agree…How ’bout they kill off inter-league play instead? I can’t stand it…

Tomahawkin

September 23rd, 2009
12:49 pm

Or to add a little bit more Fuel to the Mix…

Have KK close next year if he is open to it, but I have red flags about that Idea, since he isn’t a strikeout pitcher and tends to give up a lot of walks but we have to do something with his contract and it sucks but its a good luxury to have and that is too many good starting pitchers and not enough offense

Make KK the Closer and Petey-Pablo can be the 8th inning man and have Easy-E as our 7th inning specialist

KK has looked nice in the pen so that is why I’m harping on this idea

abwright

September 23rd, 2009
12:50 pm

Jeff R, 12:14 pm … “Expand the playoffs, fine. But cut the season back to 154 games, which is what it was prior to the 162 game schedule.”

I think the baseball season goes on too long as it is, especially with expanded spring training coverage (the best part of baseball). Even if my team makes the playoffs, I find playoff baseball to be excruciating to watch.

Pitch, wait, walk around the mound, pitch, wait, …

I like 2.5 hour games. Not 3.5 hour playoff games.

I much prefer Spring Training + 140+ games. I have to deliberately cut off a week here and a week there so that I can pace myself for the current season.

I also hate the five game series in the first round. The seven game series makes is really, really likely that the best team will win the series.

The next expansion of teams (who knows when that might come) would probably expand the divisions to four divisions, thus eliminating the wild card. If there are two wild cards, then an expansion to four divisions would probably mirror the NFL playoffs, where the best two division winners get to skip the first series.

DAP

September 23rd, 2009
12:52 pm

it isnt KK’s lack of strikeouts that makes me weary of him closing, its his walks. plus, being a starter his whole career, i would wonder if he could handle the rigors of closing, have to pitch several nights in a row at times.

Katie

September 23rd, 2009
12:52 pm

Run Heap Run-

I think we all saw it coming that Frenchy and Wright would be new bffs, lol

Tomahawkin

September 23rd, 2009
12:53 pm

RHR

is back with her Rookie name, I’m pretty sure that most people (the New Cats on the blog) didn’t know what RHR stood for

KC

September 23rd, 2009
12:53 pm

DOB: “There were black SUVs and security dudes in suits and sunglasses and earpieces everywhere you turned.”

You’re not supposed to remember anything after they flash that little light in your eyes.

Anyway, sorry about that. My security detail is supposed to be more discreet.

Soph

September 23rd, 2009
12:54 pm

Awww, is Francoeur trying to make Mac jealous with his new BFF?

Run Heap Run

September 23rd, 2009
12:56 pm

Put me on the don’t like the ideal of KK as a starter list. He kinda takes some settling in when he starts. His 1 and 2 innings are dicey but then he’ll settle in about the 3rd and be solid for 3-4 innings. Not exactly the kind of guy you want coming in to close a game. I think he’s best used as a starter but he certainly did well in long relief behind Lowe so that could be his 2nd best fit. Closer would be the last place I’d use him.

HoCoJo

September 23rd, 2009
12:58 pm

Poopy Pants

Do you mean blocked or blockage? Either way, maybe you should call yourself “Wished I had Poopy Pants”

Run Heap Run

September 23rd, 2009
12:58 pm

Tomahawkin – i’m just on the netbook in the cafeteria. the name was already filled in, when I get back to my desk or any of my other computers it’ll be the other. I didn’t care enough to change it, just wanted something to read while I ate my cheese sammich.

abwright

September 23rd, 2009
1:00 pm

McFann =Ô=, 12:46 pm … “Yeah, I agree…How ’bout they kill off inter-league play instead? I can’t stand it…”

I usually take my week off from baseball during inter-league play.

Maybe they can keep inter-league but not count those games in the standings (that was a joke, never going to happen). I think that fans that follow the season generally hate inter-league. But, casual “fans” pay to go to inter-league games in droves. Those same fans would just as likely go to an exhibition game.

Or restrict inter-league to those city versus city rivalries (NY, LA, OH, FL) and perhaps let the previous year’s playoff contenders from each league play each other.

I think inter-league play has greatly reduced the wow factor of the world series.

TDub

September 23rd, 2009
1:04 pm

Hey – remember earlier this year in spring training, when we had all the Mets trolls on here breaking down our team versus theirs and insisting we would be shaking in fear at their mighty NL East-winning lineup? Good times…

Marc in FL

September 23rd, 2009
1:07 pm

METS

My
Entire
Team
Sucks

Ha!

Jake W.

September 23rd, 2009
1:07 pm

abwright , I think that if they are going to keep interleague that they actually need to move away from the “natural” rivavlries. I think they need to do it where one year the nl east plays the al east, then the next year the al central, then the next al west. Marlins and Mets are in the same division and compete for the same spot but the marlins get to play the rays twice a year and the mets get the yankees twice a year. Outside of last year the yanks have seemingly always been good and the rays not so good. That may come down to being the difference in the division title.

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
1:16 pm

abwright I think that fans that follow the season generally hate inter-league. But, casual “fans” pay to go to inter-league games in droves.

Exactly…that’s where the problem starts. Hmm! Why should the casual “fans” get their way?

Seriously, though…interleague play does take away the fun of the ASG and the “wow factor” of the World Series. “Oh…we’re playing the Red Sox in the World Series? But we already played two series against them this Summer…”

Obviously there’s been interleague play ever since I’ve cared about baseball (when did it start, anyway?), so it’s not like I know what the ASG and WS were like before that…but still; it takes away from all that. Besides, I hate the AL…the less I see of those teams the better (once, in October, would be cool we me!).

Bobby's Belly

September 23rd, 2009
1:21 pm

A KU alum dismissing a fight is not a big deal. However, I would hope a KU alum w/ a forum as well read/respected as this had not read TyShaun Taylor’s posts. Glancing over such ignorance and not denouncing it only enables the idiot.

From ESPN:

On his Facebook page, Taylor admitted he threw a punch.

“I got a dislocated finger … from throwing a punch, so don’t let the newspaper gas ya all up, aite,” he posted after midnight, according to the Kansas City Star.

Taylor’s earlier posts indicated there may have been some tension among the athletes on campus. On Tuesday morning he wrote, “keep my name out ya mouth for you get smacked in it.” A half-hour later, a posting read, “never get outta character … I’m always a G about it.”

Later that afternoon, Taylor posted, “n—–s be muggin me … you know I’m mugging back.” The altercation occurred about two-and-a-half hours later, the Journal-World reported.

Kansas, the prohibitive preseason No. 1 team, is scheduled to begin its season on Oct. 16 with “Late Night at the Phog,” its annual opening practice. The Jayhawks’ first game is Nov. 13.

Taylor averaged 9.7 points and 3 assists as a freshman.

Dana O’Neil covers men’s college basketball for ESPN.com.

bravesgrl4life

September 23rd, 2009
1:22 pm

Marc in FL – now that was funny, dude :lol:

Jonas

September 23rd, 2009
1:27 pm

This are the change i make in MLB NL League in the Future:
1-Cut regular season to 150 Games
2-Has 4 Division (Atlantic,North,Central,West)
Atlantic: Fla,Phil,NYM,Wash
North: Mil,Cub,Pitt,Cici
Central: Atl (yes the Bravos), Stl,Colo,Houston
West: SF,LAD,SD,Ari
3- Playoff:wild Card two team best Record non Division Winner, the best Record Diviosn Winner has a bye first Round, The WC winner play with the second beat record div winner, the Third best record play with
the Bye team.
4- DH’s in the NL league..yes is time now..every International tourney has the DH….

Couch Tater

September 23rd, 2009
1:28 pm

RHR, So you’re an Advertiser-Gleam insider?

hee, hee

Facts Please

September 23rd, 2009
1:30 pm

Cox is to much of a players manager and it tore up this team. Leaving Johnson in while Prado sat, big mistake. Then he lets Chipper go on and on and on with injury after injury and not hitting. You know this is a team and sitting on one player who is a big impact to let him get over his stuff, not a good move. Take him out, like I said, last time I looked it was a team, not a single player. Cox has hurt us over and over again this year. I really believe his managing days are over. When you let a closer load the bases and you just sit there and watch, somethings wrong. Im sorry I love Cox but I have lost all faith in him. It started the last few years when Franco was still here. Even though he was not hitting and was not the one that got us in the playoffs, Cox sat the starter and put in Franco. Take one for the team Cox. You have taken plenty of wins this year and turned them into losses. Not the players alone, but Bobby Cox and his inability to reason and replace players in time of need.

Facts Please

September 23rd, 2009
1:30 pm

Cox is to much of a players manager and it tore up this team. Leaving Johnson in while Prado sat, big mistake. Then he lets Chipper go on and on and on with injury after injury and not hitting. You know this is a team and sitting on one player who is a big impact to let him get over his stuff, not a good move. Take him out, like I said, last time I looked it was a team, not a single player. Cox has hurt us over and over again this year. I really believe his managing days are over. When you let a closer load the bases and you just sit there and watch, somethings wrong. Im sorry I love Cox but I have lost all faith in him. It started the last few years when Franco was still here. Even though he was not hitting and was not the one that got us in the playoffs, Cox sat the starter and put in Franco. Take one for the team Cox. You have taken plenty of wins this year and turned them into losses. Not the players alone, but Bobby Cox and his inability to reason and replace players in time of need.

RHR

September 23rd, 2009
1:36 pm

Couch Tater – too funny. of course i subscribe to the gleam, i live in Gville, you know. Most hilarious/interesting newspaper ever.

Daslied

September 23rd, 2009
1:39 pm

Rob from SC – you do know that Bobby, when GM in the late 80s, brought in Glavine, Gant, Chipper, Avery and Justice? I believe it was also his idea to stress the importance of scouting and player development. I’m not sure why people think he only likes veterans.

Steve from OH

September 23rd, 2009
1:42 pm

Baseball America ranked C Christian Bethancourt the top prospect in the GCL today. P Caleb Brewer was no. 17, featuring a 91-93 FB (touching 95) with a “downer” CB.

Shaun

September 23rd, 2009
1:43 pm

Shaun, you’re right. In 2010 Bobby will need CJ/Mac to be at their best, plus a guy that mashes the fu** out of the ball hitting between them, plus the starters to duplicate what they have done this year, plus the tired pen arms that he abuses to have rubber arms to get to the playoffs again. As you know, strategy ain’t Bobby’s game.

I’ve said this before, what makes you think that the bullpen arms are abused? There are several pitchers in the majors who have thrown about as many innings and/or games and have not performed as well as Atlanta’s top relievers.

Cox’s use of the relief corps could be seen as a strength. Basically the best pitchers have, for the most part, thrown the most innings. Isn’t that how you’d ideally want things?

Rock On......

September 23rd, 2009
1:44 pm

Anders…..I agree with you that Cox would not announce he is retiring after the road trip. My guess is that Cox and Wren are talking some details now on a 1-year extension to bring Cox back for a 30th year as manager. Assuming those “details” can be worked out I really have a feeling that he will announce that next week as opposed to prolonging it into the World Series/playoffs etc. Not saying I want him back at all just teh way this thing is looking to me.

Jake W.

September 23rd, 2009
1:45 pm

“DH’s in the NL league..yes is time now..every International tourney has the DH….”

Great now we have to find money to donate to another position. No thanks, i’ll pass on the DH. Afterall some of our pitchers have provided some the best at-bats this season. I think the NL as it is without the DH is fine.

abwright

September 23rd, 2009
1:48 pm

Jake W., 1:07 pm … “I think they need to do it [interleague play] where one year the nl east plays the al east, then the next year the al central, then the next al west.”

If inter-league is going to count in the standings (as it currently does), then I agree with you. All teams in a division should play against the same opponents.

However, that mostly defeats the purpose of inter-league (a gimmick to draw attendance). If not for the attendance boost, then inter-league would long since have been abolished.

Daslied

September 23rd, 2009
1:49 pm

Facts Please – “sat the starter and put in Franco”.

1st base options when Franco was here:
2001 – Rico Brogna (.632 OPS)/ Wes Helms (.728 OPS) / Franco (.821 OPS)
2002 – Matt Franco (.912 OPS) / Wes Helms (.687) / J. Franco (.739)
2003 – Robert Fick (.753 OPS) / M. Franco (.650) / J. Franco (.824)
2004 – LaRoche (.821 OPS) / Franco (.818) – PLATOON
2005 – LaRoche (.775 OPS) / Franco (.799) – PLATOON

Other than 2002, when was it really a problem? That is, if it was really even a problem in 2002.

Rock On......

September 23rd, 2009
1:49 pm

I would be the 1st to sign any petition to get rid of the DH, period. The Players Union would never let that happen though.

Shaun

September 23rd, 2009
1:51 pm

If inter-league is going to count in the standings (as it currently does), then I agree with you. All teams in a division should play against the same opponents.

Why should all teams within a division play against the same opponents? All teams competing for the Wild Card spot don’t play the same opponents.

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
1:52 pm

Rock On… I would be the 1st to sign any petition to get rid of the DH, period.

Then I guess I’d have to be second…

DH is dumb…almost as dumb as that “running lane” to first base.

abwright

September 23rd, 2009
1:53 pm

McFann =Ô=, 1:16 pm … “Hmm! Why should the casual “fans” get their way?”

It’s because of the golden rule: “He who has the gold makes the rules.”

There are more of them (more money spent on baseball related merchandizing) than there are of us.

Jake W.

September 23rd, 2009
1:58 pm

“Why should all teams within a division play against the same opponents? All teams competing for the Wild Card spot don’t play the same opponents.”

Thats why you don’t even worry about the wild card because it will inherently always be unfair because from year to year some divisions will be stronger than others. If the mets didn’t have all these injuries they would probably be in the race with the marlins, braves and phillies which means the only bad team would be the nats. The rockies get to play two bad teams in the pads and the diamondbacks who have pretty much been weak all season long. You can’t control what others do in other divisions but you can control what happens in yours escpecially since winning your division is seen as the easiest route to the playoffs.

Rock On......

September 23rd, 2009
1:58 pm

The all-star game is a joke? You bet it is but so is every other all-star game. Can’t wait for that scintillating Pro Bowl in February or another mundane NBA weekend and the always “thrilling” slam dunk contest and 3-point shootout. Yeah….marking my calendar now.

Shaun

September 23rd, 2009
2:00 pm

I would be the 1st to sign any petition to get rid of the DH, period. The Players Union would never let that happen though.

I really don’t think it would be that big a deal if MLB decided to put a DH in the National League. There are hardly any pitchers in the history of the game that can hit as well as a fringe-level position player much less a solid regular or even a solid pinch-hitter. I think the game is at least equally entertaining when I see nine hitters who can actually at least somewhat hit.

Jake W.

September 23rd, 2009
2:03 pm

“I really don’t think it would be that big a deal if MLB decided to put a DH in the National League.”

I think it would, not everyone is in love with those high scoring and long AL games. There a lot of baseball fans that clearly hate the DH and prefer NL baseball. I’m not a fan of the DH myself and on the average I do prefer to watch national league ball over american league games.

RHR

September 23rd, 2009
2:04 pm

Here are a couple pics from the rookie dress up thing. The first is Reid Gorecki and the 2nd is Hanson and Medlen (Big and Little).

http://braveslove.blogspot.com/2009/09/2009-braves-rookie-hazing.html

Tomahawkin

September 23rd, 2009
2:09 pm

As much as I bash The Awfense…

The braves have to be among league leaders in offense from the catching position

That B-Macc/D-Ross Duo is among the best catching corps in the league

O.J.

September 23rd, 2009
2:10 pm

I agree with all those that think Dexter is a really good show, maybe one of the best.

Daslied

September 23rd, 2009
2:11 pm

Great pics, RHR!

Say, what’s up with 40% of the Teixeira payout having ribs removed? (Harrison and Saltalamacchia.)

Bay Area Steve

September 23rd, 2009
2:13 pm

Shaun,

I like your stuff. You’ve opened my eyes to many new ideas here, and even converted me to a few of them. But, I simply can’t respect any Braves fan suggesting the DH for the National League.

Heck, I’ll have to respect Anders more than you.

Brandon from Warner Robins

September 23rd, 2009
2:16 pm

RHR- Wow. Thats pretty funny. Thanks for the link

jim

September 23rd, 2009
2:16 pm

The theory that the Braves will miss the playoffs this year because Bobby Cox blew at least six or seven games they should have won holds true only if none of the other managers in the race blew six or so games that their teams should have won. In the imperfect world of the Cox detractors, only BC will make bad decisions that lose games. Cox has to be questioned for his over-reliance on only 4 arms in the pen, but whenever Acosta, Bennett, Boyer, or sometimes Medlen was given an opportunity to demonstrate that they were capable of performing in an important situation, they invariably failed. DOB’s conversaation with Diaz give a good indication of the hard to quantify contribution that Cox makes to the successes of the team. His managerial style has contributed to making a player like Diaz a better player that in turns makes the difference in wins that occur during the course of the year.

RHR

September 23rd, 2009
2:19 pm

Rock On......

September 23rd, 2009
2:19 pm

IMO, the NL is a better brand of ball. Double-switches, strategy moves, and more of a premium on pinch hitting just to name a few. Not that the AL is a bad brand of ball, not at all, just glad the Braves play in the best league.

brent a.

September 23rd, 2009
2:23 pm

The more I think about it . . .

the Braves are going to be an 85-90 win team. The Braves have been much better since 7/1 than they were the first three months, or so, of the season.

If I’m Bobby Cox (and I’m not), I want to come back next season and see if this team can be as successful for 6 months as it has been the last 3.

Nolie

September 23rd, 2009
2:26 pm

Looks like Bobby is coming back. Hoorah!!! :lol:

jim

September 23rd, 2009
2:27 pm

The entertainment value of the All-Star game declined at about the time it became an event, rather than a game. Some of the more memorable All-Star moments occurred in the late, or extra, innings when stars like Ted Williams, Joe DiMaggio, and Willie Mays were still in the game. The starting pitcher was expected to go 3 innings, and was backed up by other top starters in the league. (In the 1958 game Lew Burdett actually pitched 4 innings of relief.) If there was interest in making the All Star game more entertaining and more representative of the top players in the leagues, they would limit the roster to 25/26 players and put a (small) cap on the number of relief pitchers that each team could have. Sure there would be screams about the injustice of leaving certain players off the roster, but there are screams about that today anyway.

abwright

September 23rd, 2009
2:27 pm

Shaun, 1:51 pm … “Why should all teams within a division play against the same opponents? All teams competing for the Wild Card spot don’t play the same opponents.”

Excepting inter-league, doesn’t every team in the NL play every other team in the NL? Not necessarily the same number of games per team …

I think the WC has a huge flaw because a team in a weak division may have a better record than a team in a strong division. But, I don’t see a better way to do it than has been done so far.

Unbalanced inter-league, however, has messed up both the division races and the wild card race. Balancing inter-league would at least fix one problem.

Efrim

September 23rd, 2009
2:36 pm

I really don’t think it would be that big a deal if MLB decided to put a DH in the National League.

I’m for this. DH in both leagues, draft that includes international players, and a hard slotting system for the draft as well.

I’m mainly for the DH because I think it has contributed to the American League dominance over the years. Balance it out a bit. I guess I can’t really prove that though.

Daslied

September 23rd, 2009
2:36 pm

RHR, more thanks – this time for the Chipper article. Interesting that he, TP and Larry, Sr., did some work on his swing two weeks ago. In the last two weeks, he’s hitting .296/.424/.444. That’s a substantial improvement in every way over the time just before then.

Efrim

September 23rd, 2009
2:39 pm

Michael (Kalamazoo, MI)

What is Mike Minor’s potential. I realize he was 21 in A-ball but he dominated late in the year. I guess my real question is what does his stuff project to? Top of the rotation or a backend/bullpen type?

Jim Callis (2:00 PM)

He has solid if unspectacular stuff, and he really knows how to pitch. I think he’s a future No. 3 starter, but if you really like him, I guess you could talk yourself into calling him a No. 2.

Tomahawkin

September 23rd, 2009
2:39 pm

MLB Network showing Randy Johnson’s perfect game against the braves (2004). I wasn’t fond of that perfect game because he did it against a(n) AAA braves lineup

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
2:40 pm

Tomahawkin That B-Macc/D-Ross Duo is among the best catching corps in the league

Might even be the best!

abwright It’s because of the golden rule: “He who has the gold makes the rules.

Oh yeah… :roll:

RHR

September 23rd, 2009
2:44 pm

nolie what you doing with a big N? Are you happy to see us? :P

RHR

September 23rd, 2009
2:45 pm

Daslied – I had the same thoughts. Maybe he’s on the right track.

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
2:49 pm

RHR

Heh heh…thanks for the link…couldn’t resist…

:lol:

nolie

September 23rd, 2009
2:52 pm

Yup!! Good afternoon! actually i don’t know why my computer threw that in there, and I didn’t notice it.

Jonas

September 23rd, 2009
2:54 pm

Here is the List of all Braves Prospect to Play AFL this winter for
“Peoria Saguaros”:
Pitcher: Lee Hyde,Craig Kimbrel,Jeff Lyman,Mike Minor
Infilder: Freddie Freemen, Brandon Hicks
Outfielder: Jason Heyward

http://www.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=l119&t=t_ros&cid=542

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
2:55 pm

a href=”http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2009/09/22/diaz-finds-a-home-no-not-citi-field/comment-page-11/#comment-314980″>Jake W

I agree. While I like offense, I can’t stand the DH. NL Baseball is real baseball–the way it was meant to be played, no?

Besides, with the DH, you can’t have fun moments like Timmy hitting a home run. :lol: That’s what baseball is all about right there…

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
2:55 pm

Daslied

September 23rd, 2009
2:55 pm

Cito Gaston say the Jay need a SS, since McDonald and Scutaro are free agents this offseason. Yunel for Lind – who hangs up first?

All I know about Lind is that he’s left-handed, young and very powerful. DH, though – decent in the field, does anyone know?

nolie

September 23rd, 2009
2:55 pm

While I like offense, I can’t stand the DH. NL Baseball is real baseball–the way it was meant to be played, no? (McF)

I agree

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
2:56 pm

I mean DANGIT!! Sheesh…can’t type right now, cann I? Ah well…was time to write in my diary, anyway. :roll:

Daslied

September 23rd, 2009
2:56 pm

“Jays”. Crap.

Efrim

September 23rd, 2009
2:57 pm

Yunel for Lind – who hangs up first?

Wren. And I’m not sure who would hang up for Toronto since I can’t imagine J.P. running that organization much longer.

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
2:57 pm

nolie

Thanks…yeah, the NL is the only way to go.

Daslied

September 23rd, 2009
3:00 pm

Funny, Efrim. I think I agree with you. Just looking at alternatives to free agents and the usual trade suspects.

Jake W.

September 23rd, 2009
3:01 pm

I got you McFann and I agree with you.

DAP

September 23rd, 2009
3:02 pm

i think im more entertained when a pitcher manages to get a hit, or even lays a bunt down, then i would be having a #9 hitter. its entertaining when the pitcher hits because they arent supposed to be good at it. plus, as other have mentioned, the strategy needed in an NL game is much more interesting than anything that happens in the AL.

nolie

September 23rd, 2009
3:03 pm

Why would we want to trade one of our few good right-handed hitters for another left handed hitter with Heyward and possibly Schafer coming up?

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
3:06 pm

Thanks, Jake W. Yeah, I really botched that link, didn’t I? :roll:

DAP @ 3:02–

I totally agree. Timmy’s first career homer was the funniest/most entertaining baseball thing I’ve seen since BMac’s first Big League Triple! :lol:

Chop Chop

September 23rd, 2009
3:13 pm

I wouldn’t mind having the DH in the NL. I used to hate it, but I’ve grown up.

McFann =Ô=

September 23rd, 2009
3:17 pm

Chop CHop

Yeah, well, you also said that you like the Fillies, so…

Josh

September 23rd, 2009
3:20 pm

Oh my God, why would anyone be excited Cox is coming back? I mean, maybe before this year I wouldn’t have minded, but after his decision meltdowns through ‘09, umm, I can’t say I trust his in game decisions much anymore.

You know this O’Brien guy is just itching to say more than what he can about the skipper but knows it’s probably not wise to talk too much smack about a guy you interview over 100 times in a year.

David O'Brien

September 23rd, 2009
3:20 pm

NEW BLOGGAGE

Bay Area Steve

September 23rd, 2009
3:20 pm

Et tu, Efrim, Chop Chop?

How can so many of my favorite posters want the DH? What the heck is wrong with you people? I suppose I can understand a fan of an AL team wanting the switch, or just to have the leagues the same, but…

Again, what is wrong with you people? OK, I’m gonna tell myself that Chop was doing his opposite-thing, and Efrim is distracted by the Penguins. Yeah, there we go.

monty

September 23rd, 2009
3:22 pm

Jim
On the ALL-Star game

IMHO the All-Star lost some of it’s pizzaz due to overexposure. Used to years ago you only got the Saturday game of the week and you watched it no matter who was playing because it’s all you got. Now days every team televises and you have ESPN showing all the highlights several times a day,and internet and so forth. There isn’t much “mystery” left in the game now. THere is no feeling of “I can’t wait to see this particular star I’ve heard so much about but haven’t seen.” We see them daily if we desire to!

brent a.

September 23rd, 2009
3:22 pm

Braves had a losing record at home in 2001, and still won the division.

bravesgrl4life

September 23rd, 2009
3:23 pm

Loved seeing Timmy hit that homer the other day!

jeffrey d

September 23rd, 2009
3:23 pm

Unless your Micah Owings, watching the pitcher up with the bases empty is pretty painful. Your offense is supposed to be about hitting, not embarrassing yourself.

bravo1966

September 23rd, 2009
3:23 pm

Daslied

September 23rd, 2009
3:26 pm

nolie – not saying I want to, just asking what everybody thought since I don’t know much about him.

After a quick look, it appears that he’s actually not bad against lefties – .789 OPS in 177 PA this year. Yunel’s OPS is .714 against lefties in 173 PA this year, so I don’t know if that would be the dealbreaker.

Of course, in this scenario the money saved on a slugger would have to be spent on a SS. (I don’t trust Infante there daily.) Hey, sign Scutaro for SS and leadoff! (Sort of kidding. Maybe. But sort of.)

HoCoJo

September 23rd, 2009
3:26 pm

The Braves have had a streak here and there, especially after they started the season 5-1. I think their goose was cooked after the 5 game slide starting Sept 2nd with the Phish.

Doc Holiday

September 23rd, 2009
4:09 pm

We can point our fingers to different person as the reason to our misery in 2009:

1. Inside the organization———– Cox

2. Braves player ———————– Chipper

3. Braves opposing team ——— phillies

4. Braves opposing player ——- Howard

No no further, those 4 ingredients have taken care of our playoff chances.

Doc Holiday

September 23rd, 2009
4:10 pm

We can point our fingers to different person as the reason to our misery in 2009:

1. Inside the organization———– Cox

2. Braves player ———————– Chipper

3. Braves opposing team ——— phillies

4. Braves opposing player ——- Howard

Look no further, those 4 ingredients have taken care of our playoff chances.

Doc Holiday

September 23rd, 2009
4:20 pm

What are our chances to go 9-2 the rest of the way?, Id say, they are good, I would even say they are very good, since I think we are on a 9 game winning streak when not facing the philliesand 10-2 in the last 12.(Muts, nats, fla, nats)

What are the chances for the rockies to go 4-7? Id say close to none. (sd, cards, mil, lad)

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
4:29 pm

BOBBY COX JUST SIGNED A ONE YEAR EXTENSION AND WILL RETIRE IN 2011!!!

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
4:30 pm

THATS RIGHT FOLKS, YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST….

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 23rd, 2009
4:31 pm

Dorothy Davis

September 24th, 2009
1:24 pm

To Wayne in Utah: Do you even watch the Braves games? Doesn’t appear so. You should watch some and get to know the players. Thank god you are not in control.Enter your comments here

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11:49 am

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