3:14 pm September 22, 2009, by David O'Brien
September 23rd, 20091:45 pm
“DH’s in the NL league..yes is time now..every International tourney has the DH….”
Great now we have to find money to donate to another position. No thanks, i’ll pass on the DH. Afterall some of our pitchers have provided some the best at-bats this season. I think the NL as it is without the DH is fine.
September 23rd, 20091:48 pm
Jake W., 1:07 pm … “I think they need to do it [interleague play] where one year the nl east plays the al east, then the next year the al central, then the next al west.”
If inter-league is going to count in the standings (as it currently does), then I agree with you. All teams in a division should play against the same opponents.
However, that mostly defeats the purpose of inter-league (a gimmick to draw attendance). If not for the attendance boost, then inter-league would long since have been abolished.
September 23rd, 20091:49 pm
Facts Please – “sat the starter and put in Franco”.
1st base options when Franco was here:
2001 – Rico Brogna (.632 OPS)/ Wes Helms (.728 OPS) / Franco (.821 OPS)
2002 – Matt Franco (.912 OPS) / Wes Helms (.687) / J. Franco (.739)
2003 – Robert Fick (.753 OPS) / M. Franco (.650) / J. Franco (.824)
2004 – LaRoche (.821 OPS) / Franco (.818) – PLATOON
2005 – LaRoche (.775 OPS) / Franco (.799) – PLATOON
Other than 2002, when was it really a problem? That is, if it was really even a problem in 2002.
I would be the 1st to sign any petition to get rid of the DH, period. The Players Union would never let that happen though.
September 23rd, 20091:51 pm
If inter-league is going to count in the standings (as it currently does), then I agree with you. All teams in a division should play against the same opponents.
Why should all teams within a division play against the same opponents? All teams competing for the Wild Card spot don’t play the same opponents.
September 23rd, 20091:52 pm
Rock On… I would be the 1st to sign any petition to get rid of the DH, period.
Then I guess I’d have to be second…
DH is dumb…almost as dumb as that “running lane” to first base.
September 23rd, 20091:53 pm
McFann =Ô=, 1:16 pm … “Hmm! Why should the casual “fans” get their way?”
It’s because of the golden rule: “He who has the gold makes the rules.”
There are more of them (more money spent on baseball related merchandizing) than there are of us.
September 23rd, 20091:58 pm
“Why should all teams within a division play against the same opponents? All teams competing for the Wild Card spot don’t play the same opponents.”
Thats why you don’t even worry about the wild card because it will inherently always be unfair because from year to year some divisions will be stronger than others. If the mets didn’t have all these injuries they would probably be in the race with the marlins, braves and phillies which means the only bad team would be the nats. The rockies get to play two bad teams in the pads and the diamondbacks who have pretty much been weak all season long. You can’t control what others do in other divisions but you can control what happens in yours escpecially since winning your division is seen as the easiest route to the playoffs.
The all-star game is a joke? You bet it is but so is every other all-star game. Can’t wait for that scintillating Pro Bowl in February or another mundane NBA weekend and the always “thrilling” slam dunk contest and 3-point shootout. Yeah….marking my calendar now.
September 23rd, 20092:00 pm
I really don’t think it would be that big a deal if MLB decided to put a DH in the National League. There are hardly any pitchers in the history of the game that can hit as well as a fringe-level position player much less a solid regular or even a solid pinch-hitter. I think the game is at least equally entertaining when I see nine hitters who can actually at least somewhat hit.
September 23rd, 20092:03 pm
“I really don’t think it would be that big a deal if MLB decided to put a DH in the National League.”
I think it would, not everyone is in love with those high scoring and long AL games. There a lot of baseball fans that clearly hate the DH and prefer NL baseball. I’m not a fan of the DH myself and on the average I do prefer to watch national league ball over american league games.
September 23rd, 20092:04 pm
Here are a couple pics from the rookie dress up thing. The first is Reid Gorecki and the 2nd is Hanson and Medlen (Big and Little).
September 23rd, 20092:09 pm
As much as I bash The Awfense…
The braves have to be among league leaders in offense from the catching position
That B-Macc/D-Ross Duo is among the best catching corps in the league
September 23rd, 20092:10 pm
I agree with all those that think Dexter is a really good show, maybe one of the best.
September 23rd, 20092:11 pm
Great pics, RHR!
Say, what’s up with 40% of the Teixeira payout having ribs removed? (Harrison and Saltalamacchia.)
Bay Area Steve
September 23rd, 20092:13 pm
I like your stuff. You’ve opened my eyes to many new ideas here, and even converted me to a few of them. But, I simply can’t respect any Braves fan suggesting the DH for the National League.
Heck, I’ll have to respect Anders more than you.
Brandon from Warner Robins
September 23rd, 20092:16 pm
RHR- Wow. Thats pretty funny. Thanks for the link
The theory that the Braves will miss the playoffs this year because Bobby Cox blew at least six or seven games they should have won holds true only if none of the other managers in the race blew six or so games that their teams should have won. In the imperfect world of the Cox detractors, only BC will make bad decisions that lose games. Cox has to be questioned for his over-reliance on only 4 arms in the pen, but whenever Acosta, Bennett, Boyer, or sometimes Medlen was given an opportunity to demonstrate that they were capable of performing in an important situation, they invariably failed. DOB’s conversaation with Diaz give a good indication of the hard to quantify contribution that Cox makes to the successes of the team. His managerial style has contributed to making a player like Diaz a better player that in turns makes the difference in wins that occur during the course of the year.
September 23rd, 20092:19 pm
IMO, the NL is a better brand of ball. Double-switches, strategy moves, and more of a premium on pinch hitting just to name a few. Not that the AL is a bad brand of ball, not at all, just glad the Braves play in the best league.
September 23rd, 20092:23 pm
The more I think about it . . .
the Braves are going to be an 85-90 win team. The Braves have been much better since 7/1 than they were the first three months, or so, of the season.
If I’m Bobby Cox (and I’m not), I want to come back next season and see if this team can be as successful for 6 months as it has been the last 3.
September 23rd, 20092:26 pm
Looks like Bobby is coming back. Hoorah!!!
September 23rd, 20092:27 pm
The entertainment value of the All-Star game declined at about the time it became an event, rather than a game. Some of the more memorable All-Star moments occurred in the late, or extra, innings when stars like Ted Williams, Joe DiMaggio, and Willie Mays were still in the game. The starting pitcher was expected to go 3 innings, and was backed up by other top starters in the league. (In the 1958 game Lew Burdett actually pitched 4 innings of relief.) If there was interest in making the All Star game more entertaining and more representative of the top players in the leagues, they would limit the roster to 25/26 players and put a (small) cap on the number of relief pitchers that each team could have. Sure there would be screams about the injustice of leaving certain players off the roster, but there are screams about that today anyway.
Shaun, 1:51 pm … “Why should all teams within a division play against the same opponents? All teams competing for the Wild Card spot don’t play the same opponents.”
Excepting inter-league, doesn’t every team in the NL play every other team in the NL? Not necessarily the same number of games per team …
I think the WC has a huge flaw because a team in a weak division may have a better record than a team in a strong division. But, I don’t see a better way to do it than has been done so far.
Unbalanced inter-league, however, has messed up both the division races and the wild card race. Balancing inter-league would at least fix one problem.
September 23rd, 20092:36 pm
I really don’t think it would be that big a deal if MLB decided to put a DH in the National League.
I’m for this. DH in both leagues, draft that includes international players, and a hard slotting system for the draft as well.
I’m mainly for the DH because I think it has contributed to the American League dominance over the years. Balance it out a bit. I guess I can’t really prove that though.
RHR, more thanks – this time for the Chipper article. Interesting that he, TP and Larry, Sr., did some work on his swing two weeks ago. In the last two weeks, he’s hitting .296/.424/.444. That’s a substantial improvement in every way over the time just before then.
September 23rd, 20092:39 pm
Michael (Kalamazoo, MI)
What is Mike Minor’s potential. I realize he was 21 in A-ball but he dominated late in the year. I guess my real question is what does his stuff project to? Top of the rotation or a backend/bullpen type?
Jim Callis (2:00 PM)
He has solid if unspectacular stuff, and he really knows how to pitch. I think he’s a future No. 3 starter, but if you really like him, I guess you could talk yourself into calling him a No. 2.
MLB Network showing Randy Johnson’s perfect game against the braves (2004). I wasn’t fond of that perfect game because he did it against a(n) AAA braves lineup
September 23rd, 20092:40 pm
Tomahawkin That B-Macc/D-Ross Duo is among the best catching corps in the league
Might even be the best!
abwright It’s because of the golden rule: “He who has the gold makes the rules.
September 23rd, 20092:44 pm
nolie what you doing with a big N? Are you happy to see us?
September 23rd, 20092:45 pm
Daslied – I had the same thoughts. Maybe he’s on the right track.
September 23rd, 20092:49 pm
Heh heh…thanks for the link…couldn’t resist…
September 23rd, 20092:52 pm
Yup!! Good afternoon! actually i don’t know why my computer threw that in there, and I didn’t notice it.
September 23rd, 20092:54 pm
Here is the List of all Braves Prospect to Play AFL this winter for
Pitcher: Lee Hyde,Craig Kimbrel,Jeff Lyman,Mike Minor
Infilder: Freddie Freemen, Brandon Hicks
Outfielder: Jason Heyward
September 23rd, 20092:55 pm
a href=”http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2009/09/22/diaz-finds-a-home-no-not-citi-field/comment-page-11/#comment-314980″>Jake W–
I agree. While I like offense, I can’t stand the DH. NL Baseball is real baseball–the way it was meant to be played, no?
Besides, with the DH, you can’t have fun moments like Timmy hitting a home run. That’s what baseball is all about right there…
Cito Gaston say the Jay need a SS, since McDonald and Scutaro are free agents this offseason. Yunel for Lind – who hangs up first?
All I know about Lind is that he’s left-handed, young and very powerful. DH, though – decent in the field, does anyone know?
While I like offense, I can’t stand the DH. NL Baseball is real baseball–the way it was meant to be played, no? (McF)
September 23rd, 20092:56 pm
I mean DANGIT!! Sheesh…can’t type right now, cann I? Ah well…was time to write in my diary, anyway.
September 23rd, 20092:57 pm
Yunel for Lind – who hangs up first?
Wren. And I’m not sure who would hang up for Toronto since I can’t imagine J.P. running that organization much longer.
Thanks…yeah, the NL is the only way to go.
September 23rd, 20093:00 pm
Funny, Efrim. I think I agree with you. Just looking at alternatives to free agents and the usual trade suspects.
September 23rd, 20093:01 pm
I got you McFann and I agree with you.
September 23rd, 20093:02 pm
i think im more entertained when a pitcher manages to get a hit, or even lays a bunt down, then i would be having a #9 hitter. its entertaining when the pitcher hits because they arent supposed to be good at it. plus, as other have mentioned, the strategy needed in an NL game is much more interesting than anything that happens in the AL.
September 23rd, 20093:03 pm
Why would we want to trade one of our few good right-handed hitters for another left handed hitter with Heyward and possibly Schafer coming up?
September 23rd, 20093:06 pm
Thanks, Jake W. Yeah, I really botched that link, didn’t I?
DAP @ 3:02–
I totally agree. Timmy’s first career homer was the funniest/most entertaining baseball thing I’ve seen since BMac’s first Big League Triple!
September 23rd, 20093:13 pm
I wouldn’t mind having the DH in the NL. I used to hate it, but I’ve grown up.
September 23rd, 20093:17 pm
Yeah, well, you also said that you like the Fillies, so…
September 23rd, 20093:20 pm
Oh my God, why would anyone be excited Cox is coming back? I mean, maybe before this year I wouldn’t have minded, but after his decision meltdowns through ‘09, umm, I can’t say I trust his in game decisions much anymore.
You know this O’Brien guy is just itching to say more than what he can about the skipper but knows it’s probably not wise to talk too much smack about a guy you interview over 100 times in a year.
Et tu, Efrim, Chop Chop?
How can so many of my favorite posters want the DH? What the heck is wrong with you people? I suppose I can understand a fan of an AL team wanting the switch, or just to have the leagues the same, but…
Again, what is wrong with you people? OK, I’m gonna tell myself that Chop was doing his opposite-thing, and Efrim is distracted by the Penguins. Yeah, there we go.
September 23rd, 20093:22 pm
On the ALL-Star game
IMHO the All-Star lost some of it’s pizzaz due to overexposure. Used to years ago you only got the Saturday game of the week and you watched it no matter who was playing because it’s all you got. Now days every team televises and you have ESPN showing all the highlights several times a day,and internet and so forth. There isn’t much “mystery” left in the game now. THere is no feeling of “I can’t wait to see this particular star I’ve heard so much about but haven’t seen.” We see them daily if we desire to!
Braves had a losing record at home in 2001, and still won the division.
September 23rd, 20093:23 pm
Loved seeing Timmy hit that homer the other day!
Unless your Micah Owings, watching the pitcher up with the bases empty is pretty painful. Your offense is supposed to be about hitting, not embarrassing yourself.
Suspense over-Cox will return as manager for the Braves 2010 campaign….
September 23rd, 20093:26 pm
nolie – not saying I want to, just asking what everybody thought since I don’t know much about him.
After a quick look, it appears that he’s actually not bad against lefties – .789 OPS in 177 PA this year. Yunel’s OPS is .714 against lefties in 173 PA this year, so I don’t know if that would be the dealbreaker.
Of course, in this scenario the money saved on a slugger would have to be spent on a SS. (I don’t trust Infante there daily.) Hey, sign Scutaro for SS and leadoff! (Sort of kidding. Maybe. But sort of.)
The Braves have had a streak here and there, especially after they started the season 5-1. I think their goose was cooked after the 5 game slide starting Sept 2nd with the Phish.
September 23rd, 20094:09 pm
We can point our fingers to different person as the reason to our misery in 2009:
1. Inside the organization———– Cox
2. Braves player ———————– Chipper
3. Braves opposing team ——— phillies
4. Braves opposing player ——- Howard
No no further, those 4 ingredients have taken care of our playoff chances.
September 23rd, 20094:10 pm
Look no further, those 4 ingredients have taken care of our playoff chances.
September 23rd, 20094:20 pm
What are our chances to go 9-2 the rest of the way?, Id say, they are good, I would even say they are very good, since I think we are on a 9 game winning streak when not facing the philliesand 10-2 in the last 12.(Muts, nats, fla, nats)
What are the chances for the rockies to go 4-7? Id say close to none. (sd, cards, mil, lad)
September 23rd, 20094:29 pm
BOBBY COX JUST SIGNED A ONE YEAR EXTENSION AND WILL RETIRE IN 2011!!!
September 23rd, 20094:30 pm
THATS RIGHT FOLKS, YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST….
September 23rd, 20094:31 pm
September 24th, 20091:24 pm
To Wayne in Utah: Do you even watch the Braves games? Doesn’t appear so. You should watch some and get to know the players. Thank god you are not in control.Enter your comments here
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