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Necromancer

September 21st, 2009
8:20 pm

Tomahawkin’

You’re the man!

I read your posts because they’re entertaining and funny as hell.

There, now I’ll go back into my self-imposed exile and see you folks later!

CB

September 21st, 2009
8:20 pm

Tomahawkin, I only have one thing to say to you- ‘WHOO’

Rob from SC

September 21st, 2009
8:20 pm

got to get rid of Lowe this offseason.

Alonso

September 21st, 2009
8:21 pm

Pitcher’s park?

RHR

September 21st, 2009
8:21 pm

DOB – KK is considered a rookie, right? Have you heard anything about what they had him, Hanson and Medlen dress up as for rookie initiation? I was told that was supposed to happen when they left ATL for NY on Sunday.

Blue

September 21st, 2009
8:21 pm

One more time: Lowe’s slider is terrible.

cabravesfan

September 21st, 2009
8:21 pm

CB-

wrestling?? WHAT?? :D

Alonso

September 21st, 2009
8:22 pm

Mets officials kept saying that the ball would jump out of Citi Field once September came around. I guess they were right about one thing this year.

Tomahawkin

September 21st, 2009
8:23 pm

Rob From SC

Go Live In a Football Town for a few years, it will grow on you, especially the tailgating with chicks experience

I was a two sport athlete so I’ve always watched both…Even though I like watching football more than baseball…But Then again I’m one of those dude who can watch baseball all day as long as the right commentators are on…

Most Chicks find that boring, but I get hype when I watch the games, most people on here know that…

And I think most people who see my posts can probably imagine that I emulated Brian Jordan, Deion, David Justice among others growing up…

CB

September 21st, 2009
8:24 pm

cab- I know you love a typo. :-)

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 21st, 2009
8:25 pm

Frenchy strikes out on ball four, he hasn’t changed…

cabravesfan

September 21st, 2009
8:25 pm

CB-

totally missed that :)

P. W. Hjort

September 21st, 2009
8:25 pm

Maybe LaRoche will get an inning in tonight.

Soph

September 21st, 2009
8:25 pm

Wow, speedos huh? Funny stuff.

Mixxo

September 21st, 2009
8:26 pm

Hey!

Offense?!?

Bradley says Gardenhire’s the best mgr. in baseball. He’s good, but he’s no Jimmy Leyland…THE best mgr in MLB! Bank on that.

Tomahawkin

September 21st, 2009
8:26 pm

NecroMancer…!

Where in tarnation have you been, Partnah…!

You’ve been MIA, what gives Chief…?

Tomahawkin

September 21st, 2009
8:27 pm

CB

I will raise ya one…!

“Don’t Sing It, Bring It!”

bravefaninok

September 21st, 2009
8:29 pm

TnBrian(Vazquez ace 2010)

Because he is a professional hitter,with a professional eye.(they were both balls inside)

Salamander

September 21st, 2009
8:29 pm

What do “yall” think? [about Milton Bradley in the ATL next year]

Fu-k no.

Innocent Bystander

September 21st, 2009
8:30 pm

Let me ask this…

Why is Matty Diaz considered only a fourth outfielder? Seems to me he gets on base quite often. The guy has a career .312 BA! I think we’d be just fine having him out there every day in RF/LF next year.

Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}

September 21st, 2009
8:30 pm

Is CB and Tomahawkin the new Soph and JJ4NLCY?

Marc from FL

September 21st, 2009
8:31 pm

Gardenhire versus Leyland huh? You don’t even throw Mike Scioscia in the mix? Maybe I’m just generous but I think it’s a wash between those 3, and I have a hard time not bringing Joe Maddon and Tony Larrusa in the mix too.

I know, 5 people can’t be “the best”, only one can be the best, but these guys have all done more with less enough times to prove their worth. Joe Maddon is in there because the Rays don’t go anywhere last year without him in my book.

RHR

September 21st, 2009
8:31 pm

I don’t always agree with every single opinion DOB throws out there but today’s column is spot on.

Even though I know that LaRoche has produced like a champ since returning to the Braves, something just doesn’t feel right with Chipper lobbying for the Braves to re-sign him. It’s a conflict of interest.I don’t always agree with every single opinion DOB throws out there but today’s column is spot on.

Chipper obviously likes having his best bud and business partner on the team and I don’t think I actually fault him for that. I just don’t know if signing LaRoche long term would be a good idea due to the reasons listed by DOB.

Huh? Its been a few hours since I read what DOB wrote but I sure don’t remember it saying anything like that. I thought it was more pro resign Adam.

CB

September 21st, 2009
8:32 pm

Salamander, where have you been? We missed you, buddy.

Tomahawkin

September 21st, 2009
8:32 pm

I for one thought It was premature to call “Bailout Ballpark” AKA Citi field a pitcher’s paradise in April…Because the analysts never saw how the ball carried there in the “Summertime”!

I still think the Planes Sound Louder at Bailout Ballpark than they Did at Shea, Maybe because Bailout Ballpark has better speakers…But then again I can’t hear the Blaring Music like I used to at old Shea…

That sucks too, because I usually like the music they play at Shea, mainly the Salsa Music…

bravefaninok

September 21st, 2009
8:32 pm

Salamander

September 21st, 2009
8:29 pm

What do “yall” think? [about Milton Bradley in the ATL next year]

Fu-k no.

Nope he and his poor attitude and poor stats can stay in Chicagoland.

Mixxo

September 21st, 2009
8:32 pm

What do “yall” think? [about Milton Bradley in the ATL next year

You kiddin’ me?

Besides, he’s already in my fielder lineup….where he belongs!

Marc from FL

September 21st, 2009
8:32 pm

Innocent Bystander, it used to be believed that Diaz was a defensive liability, but I think he’s shown to be at least average in the field, and with his bat average is good enough.

Soph

September 21st, 2009
8:33 pm

I see Joe & Boog are still trying to hook Nate up.

braves4ever

September 21st, 2009
8:33 pm

well its 11-2 , hmm ,coulda,woulda, used some of that this weekend.
O what do I know ,got home today to help da fam use 3 shop vacs suck up about 150 gallons of water out of basement. But we did not have it not as bad as some folks. Now the Braves are rockin and its time for MNF and House season opener is on , dang,got to figure how to make this DVR record 2 shows.

TnBrian(Vazquez ace 2010)

September 21st, 2009
8:34 pm

bravefaninok, hey, Matty is just experimenting up there right now. He’s got their pitchers right where he wants them.

Mixxo

September 21st, 2009
8:34 pm

Marc from FL -

I like Maddon, Scioscia too.

Tomahawkin

September 21st, 2009
8:37 pm

I said Hell No To Milton Bradley in the last Blog!

If people think Bobby is hard on Esco (I’m one of them) then Bobby would lock Milton Bradley into detention and throw away the key, Plus Bradley had a “Contract Year” last year playing 1/2 his games in a hitters paradise and now he doesn’t give a What!

He’s the millenium version of Albert Belle, nuff said

RHR

September 21st, 2009
8:37 pm

lol I wasn’t caught up on the posts, btw. I see DOB’s rookie post now. :roll:

Chipper Jones

September 21st, 2009
8:38 pm

MMMMMMMMMMM…… this big league chew gum is delicious! MMMMMMMMM….. after this I’m gonna put some wintergreen dip in.

glord1

September 21st, 2009
8:38 pm

Innocent Bystander

September 21st, 2009
8:30 pm
Let me ask this…

Why is Matty Diaz considered only a fourth outfielder? Seems to me he gets on base quite often. The guy has a career .312 BA! I think we’d be just fine having him out there every day in RF/LF next year.

I agree. Matt leads the team in OPS. If he is not an everyday player we dont have any.

Tomahawkin

September 21st, 2009
8:43 pm

Boog, Talks about Matty-D getting the Munchies…!

Just Imagine How good the telecats would’ve been if Boog was brought on during the days of the old TBS telecasts…

McFann :Ô:

September 21st, 2009
8:44 pm

Loved the gift that Boog bought for Joe. :lol: Funny stuff…

McFann :Ô:

September 21st, 2009
8:44 pm

Bobby Parnell…

Salamander

September 21st, 2009
8:45 pm

CB

First semester in a PhD program… just been swamped with work, which combined with the braves tanking a few weeks back, made me stay away from the blog.

I had nothing positive to add to the conversation, and so I figured it was best to just read the blog for a while, and start posting again when I could control my caustic attitude a little bit. I don’t mind ripping others who post on this blog, but continually ripping on players is just counter-productive.

bravefaninok

September 21st, 2009
8:46 pm

TN ,i was responding to Garrett chewing out the umps ….

I love the way matty sets up a pitcher flailing away at balls 3 foot outside.

Steve from OH

September 21st, 2009
8:47 pm

Salamander–you’re in English, aren’t you?

P. W. Hjort

September 21st, 2009
8:50 pm

If there’s someone willing to swap an Oliver Perez for a Milton Bradley, then in theory there is someone willing to swap something less than desirable for a Derek Lowe. You’d want the less than desirable thing to fill a hole, presumably the outfield with Freeman upcoming and the fact that the Braves (wisely) don’t pay that kind of money for relievers. Some possibilities:

Torri Hunter makes $18 million a season from 2010-2012, but he has a no-trade clause and it’s unlikely the Angels would trade their favorite toy. Plus ex-Angels haven’t exactly panned out in Atlanta.

Carlos Lee, who also has a no-trade clause, makes $18.5 million per season over the same time period. The Astros probably wouldn’t look to move Lee for something that will help them win now. If they try to win now, it doesn’t make sense to do it without Lee.

Kosuke Fukudome could be a contract-swap candidate. He’s owed $26.5 million over the next two seasons. It’s significantly less than Lowe’s $45 million over three seasons, but possibly a contract that the Cubs might not mind swapping for a durable SP.

Aaron Rowand is owed $36 million over the next 3 years, but it doesn’t make sense for the Giants to be subtracting bats and adding SP.

Carlos Beltran’s too good to be dealt in a contract-swap type deal.

J. D. Drew could be a candidate for a contract-swap. He’s owed $28 million over the next two seasons, but his contract has a ton of club opt-outs that will likely trigger if his production or health goes south. The Red Sox would probably view Drew’s contract as much more valuable. Plus, let’s be honest, if they wanted Lowe last off-season they could’ve had him.

Alex Rios is perhaps the most similar contract in therms of value to Lowe’s. He’s owed $58.7 million from 2010-2014 with a $13.5 million club option for 2015 ($1 million buyout).

In terms of relievers, Francisco Cordero’s $24 million through 2011 with a $12 million option for 2012 ($1 million buyout) could make some sense.

McFann :Ô:

September 21st, 2009
8:51 pm

David O'Brien

September 21st, 2009
8:53 pm

Ross is in to catch, Kawakami is pitching

McFann :Ô:

September 21st, 2009
8:54 pm

BMac 2 K’s away from a new career-high. :(

McFann :Ô:

September 21st, 2009
8:54 pm

NO!! Don’t put in ssoR now!! BMac’s…hitting…streak…is over…

:cry:

Salamander

September 21st, 2009
8:55 pm

Salamander–you’re in English, aren’t you?

Hahahahaha…

Nope. No future in the liberal arts unless you are a top student, which I was not. I was an English major (so you’re right on with that label), but I switched over to the sciences after taking a few years off.

richbrave

September 21st, 2009
8:58 pm

BOBBY’s hoping KENSHIN will close this one out.

bravefaninok

September 21st, 2009
8:59 pm

Boog and Joe just said KK was dressed as a Ninja and his translator was a samuri….swords and all….

Steve from OH

September 21st, 2009
8:59 pm

So what field are you pursuing your PhD in, then?

(Sciences are a good choice, LOL! 8) )

jeffrey d

September 21st, 2009
9:00 pm

How about we throw KJ a bone and let him play the rest of the game?

Tomahawkin

September 21st, 2009
9:02 pm

D.O.B.

How Would YOU compare New York and Atlanta Drivers…?

Well since Atlanta is N. England South it seems like they are worse down here…

If you want to see bad driving exhibits drive around the “A” on a day like today…

Atlanta Drivers have to be the, not rudest, but most inconsiderate in the country…

NO MORE BOBBY

September 21st, 2009
9:03 pm

That one fan doing lets go Mets on the cowbell is pretty sad.

Salamander

September 21st, 2009
9:06 pm

Planetary Sciences (I hope), but the department I’m in is focused on astro-physics, so I might have to shift my work to cater to the available research opportunities.

tlj

September 21st, 2009
9:06 pm

Enter your comments here

It seems a lot of bloggers want to get rid of Bobby Cox. If that should happen who would you get to replace him? The proven managers are already taken, that leaves retreads or someone new. Don’t just
ask for Cox to step down unless you have someone in mind to take his place. My guess is no matter who suggest (remember they have to be available not just a name tossed out) 50 % of the other bloggers will object to that person. In other words no matter who replaced Bobby Cox half of you guys will object. Might as well keep what we have.

Steve from OH

September 21st, 2009
9:07 pm

Astro-physics? Damn. That is some heavy stuff, my man. Kudos.

richbrave

September 21st, 2009
9:08 pm

Marc from Fl:

I agree that DERRICK hits when the chips are down, and can be a tough out. But he’s old, what 34 this year? No, I’m happy if we sign LaROCHE, and get MATT HOLLIDAY to replace GARRETT ANDERSON. Everybody says the MEDIA won’t go that high to get him, but if the ownership wants a ring as badly as I think they do, they’re gonna’ have to shell out some extra millions in coin for the next two years.

CB

September 21st, 2009
9:13 pm

I think the wrong guy went to the bullpen, but I guess hard to put a 15mil man in the pen.

jeffrey d

September 21st, 2009
9:13 pm

The proven managers are already taken, that leaves retreads or someone new

You’re talking like there’s only 32 men in the world fit to be a major league manager. We don’t need someone with 1,000 wins on his resume. Look at the Falcons – Coach Mike Smith had 0 career wins as a head coach when he was hired last year.

Mixxo

September 21st, 2009
9:14 pm

DOB -

Been on a Bourdain mini-marathon this afternoon. The NYC show was outta this world. Here’s a little heads-up unless you already know about it.

http://www.keens.com/OurMenus/Dinner/

I know where I’m going….my next trip in.

McFann :Ô:

September 21st, 2009
9:14 pm

Oh, yeah…good thing we put this guy in. :roll:

jeffrey d

September 21st, 2009
9:17 pm

Good AB Melanie

Soph

September 21st, 2009
9:18 pm

Is that Kelly? 8-O

jeffrey d

September 21st, 2009
9:19 pm

I believe it is Kelly….almost forgot what the guy looked like

P. W. Hjort

September 21st, 2009
9:20 pm

Good eye, Kelly.

richbrave

September 21st, 2009
9:21 pm

O.K. CHIPPER, bust one out of here. Hey, RANDOM, CHIPPER, huh,huh?

Finally

September 21st, 2009
9:23 pm

Enter your comments hereF the Cubs release Milton, and IF he is open to coming to Atlanta, then yes. Do it. Sign him to a one year deal for 5 – 6 Million and a one year mutual option for 13 million Jur

man that makes Tomhawkin’s crap sound smart. No way do the Braves get Bradley. Not only is he a total jerk, but he’s hurt all the time too. Are you 14?

McFann :Ô:

September 21st, 2009
9:24 pm

I mean, seriously–BMac just had a day off…why the heck did he hafta get the rest of this game off, too?

NO MORE BOBBY

September 21st, 2009
9:24 pm

That E-Cigarette ad next to this blog is lame. It shows Danny Bonaduce smoking one. What the? Im sure we will all run out and get one of those since Bonadouche is so cool. Right?

jeffrey d

September 21st, 2009
9:25 pm

We’ve been having a lot of “Enter your comments here” screw ups recently…wonder why

CB

September 21st, 2009
9:27 pm

No More Bobby, they should have you smoking it, right?

Tomahawkin

September 21st, 2009
9:27 pm

I’m mad that Sheffield is not in the Lineup!

I don’t get to hear my “Hear I Go!” by Mystikal Blasting on the P.A…

Jose Chung

September 21st, 2009
9:28 pm

Chipper didn’t run very hard on tht ground-out…wonder if he’ll get benched?

richbrave

September 21st, 2009
9:28 pm

KK is sharp so far tonight. Need four more outs.

richbrave

September 21st, 2009
9:30 pm

McFANN:

BOBBY thinks we’ll need him when we get to the WS.

jeffrey d

September 21st, 2009
9:31 pm

We haven’t gotten a hit since the 3rd

Soph

September 21st, 2009
9:32 pm

We haven’t gotten a hit since the 3rd

Negative nellie.

richbrave

September 21st, 2009
9:33 pm

jeffrey d:

We haven’t needed one since the second.

N8

September 21st, 2009
9:34 pm

“You’re talking like there’s only 32 men in the world fit to be a major league manager. We don’t need someone with 1,000 wins on his resume. Look at the Falcons – Coach Mike Smith had 0 career wins as a head coach when he was hired last year.”

That’s one of the better points made on this blog in months. Nice comparison. Leo Mazzone was an unproven pitching coach at the ML level in 1991 too. 18 years later, people are pining for his return.

Every HOF career, whether as a player, coach or even owner (in any sport), has to start somewhere. And every single one of them started their career with 0 wins under their belt.

McFann :Ô:

September 21st, 2009
9:35 pm

richbrave

“Haha”…

jeffrey d We’ve been having a lot of “Enter your comments here” screw ups recently…wonder why

Dunno…for whatever reason the “Enter your comments here” thing doesn’t disappear when you click inside the box anymore. Really annoying…

We haven’t gotten a hit since the 3rd

Yeah…this game got boring in a hurry. Haha, I never thought an 11-run game for the Braves could get boring…but, once again I was wrong.

jeffrey d

September 21st, 2009
9:36 pm

We haven’t needed one since the second.

Positive Pete

Mixxo

September 21st, 2009
9:36 pm

DOB –

OK, check that Chief…..somebody just told me Peter Luger’s instead. I dunno, they both look good.

http://www.peterluger.com/

jeffrey d

September 21st, 2009
9:36 pm

Sad thing is I missed all the action

McFann :Ô:

September 21st, 2009
9:37 pm

And don’t get me wrong–I love creaming the Mets…just that, I dunno…couldn’t they have at least gotten a few more hits? I’m greedy…plus BMac’s hitting streak snapped. :(

richbrave

September 21st, 2009
9:37 pm

I sure liked the looks of GWINNETT’s DAVE BRUNDIGE when he was here last year in RICHMOND. I think he’s the under-the-radar replacement for BC.

McFann :Ô:

September 21st, 2009
9:37 pm

Sad thing is I missed all the action

That’s a bummer.

David..(Athens, AL)

September 21st, 2009
9:40 pm

KK with the save opportunity …

brent a.

September 21st, 2009
9:40 pm

Meanwhile, similar to Mike Smith, 3 of the last 4 Detroit Lions head coaches had ZERO career wins upon their arrival in Detroit, too, including the current coach, who still has zero.

Let’s hope our next manager drafts right the QB ;-)

Mitchell

September 21st, 2009
9:41 pm

Is Bobby ever going to give Clint Sammons a single at-bat before the end of the season?

What is the deal. The guy has had one at-bat all year in the 9th inning of a game against the Mets, the one where Delgado dropped what would have been the last out. Does anybody remember it?

He hit about a 400 foot foul ball and then worked a walk. That made more of an impression on me than any Gwinnett/bench player this year. I’ve missed about the past two innings so I don’t know if he actually has been used but I’m pretty sure he hasn’t.

richbrave

September 21st, 2009
9:42 pm

I notice KK’s S-B ratio beginning to deteriorate fourth time around.

cabravesfan

September 21st, 2009
9:42 pm

Mitchell-

with Mac out Sammons is the back up catcher…can’t use him “just in case”

Soph

September 21st, 2009
9:43 pm

I don’t think we can compare the Braves to the Detroit Lions though. The Lions are a mess. A biiiiiiiig mess.

Vinings Jim

September 21st, 2009
9:43 pm

Well done, KK!

Soph

September 21st, 2009
9:44 pm

Great job, Bravos. Good catch, Nate.

P. W. Hjort

September 21st, 2009
9:44 pm

I forgot that facet of the save rule. That’s funny. Good work Kawakami.

cabravesfan

September 21st, 2009
9:44 pm

Props to KK- first career save :) He looked very good out there

Mitchell

September 21st, 2009
9:45 pm

And by one at-bat I mean since he got called back up.

Wanted to make that clear. He did technically have one at-bat in ‘09.

I’m making my final prediction the year, are we ready? If Clint Sammons is given a chance, he will hit a homerun in his first… or technically second… at-bat.

I’m telling, the guy’s got talent.

richbrave

September 21st, 2009
9:45 pm

He’s righted the ship and throwing strikes again.

Mitchell

September 21st, 2009
9:46 pm

What a way to end it.

I’m a little behind aren’t I?

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