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jeffrey d

September 21st, 2009
6:13 pm

Like Lazarus rising from the dead, certain bloggers keep coming back after saying goodbye until next year…

Yes, JUST like Lazarus :roll:

VACommonwealthBravo

September 21st, 2009
6:13 pm

DOB channels Yoda. “Lack of pure power bats, they have in common along with stellar starting pitching.” All this needed was a tweak and a finishing “they do” (oh, and read in your best Yoda voice, of course). See?

“Lack of pure power bats, have in common along with stellar starting pitching, they do [Yoda laugh].”

Nice. May the force be with the Braves.

Arizona Brave

September 21st, 2009
6:14 pm

Dear Lord,

3 things we pray….

To give Chipper more power, so that the bloggers don’t sour.
Give Bobby a brain, so we all don’t go insane.
And find a trade partner for Lowe, cause he sure does blow.

P. W. Hjort

September 21st, 2009
6:15 pm

That was hilarious, Arizona Brave.

Arizona Brave

September 21st, 2009
6:18 pm

Can I get an “Amen”?

Danga

September 21st, 2009
6:21 pm

Yeah…It seems our philosophy doesn’t have much of a philosophy behind it at all. The don’t defend well. They are not fast. They don’t hit for power. Seems like if we were going to field a lineup of .280 hitters with 12 homers we could have gotten some great defense out of the deal.

Danga

September 21st, 2009
6:21 pm

*lineup that is. :)

Mike in VA

September 21st, 2009
6:23 pm

DOB – Have you heard any rumors of anyone that we may be looking at as a power hitter for next season? (Bay, Dunn, etc.) Also I saw in a trade rumor article that the Braves could be interested in Billy Wagner if we loose Gonzo and Soriano. His stats, since he came back don’t look too bad, heard anything about this? On another note, Chipper did look a whole lot better at the plate yesterday.

Russ

September 21st, 2009
6:23 pm

Bradley referred to the Braves outscoring their opponents by 74 runs this year which should have resulted in more wins. Baseball Prospectus confirms his opinion in their Pythagaport standings to a degree. Given their run differential, the Braves should be 83 – 66 which would still put them two games behind the Phillies and one game behind the Rockies in the wild card standings.

While I believe that Bobby has had a bad year, the team should have signed a big bat like Adam Dunn instead of Garret Anderson in the offseason. Joe Sheehan of BP had a great article last week that compared Dunn to Anderson. Dunn would have been worth approximately 5 additional wins for the Braves this year. With Dunn, better managing and a little more luck, the Braves would be in the playoffs this year. Let’s hope that we don’t make a similar mistake this offseason.

jeffrey d

September 21st, 2009
6:29 pm

And who’s gonna pay for the $18 million differential between Dunn and Garret’s contracts? You?

TnBrian(Vazquez ace 2010)

September 21st, 2009
6:30 pm

Regarding Lowe… it could be worse. We could be stuck with injury prone Burnett and his contract. Try trading that guy. The only thing he has on Lowe is his K’s, but that wouldn’t make up for all his negatives.

Steve from OH

September 21st, 2009
6:31 pm

One of this team’s biggest systematic weaknesses that largely gets overlooked is the fact that they are very bad at playing defense. I expect Chipper to get better next year (to a tolerable level), Yunel too (to the GG level).

Absolutely! Our defense has been very bad this year (I think we’re in the 20-somethings in defensive efficiency?). Chipper will do better next year and I think if he is free of his hip flexor stuff Yunel will improve too. When Heyward arrives, he (should) play plus D in right. And in a perfect world, Schafer plays CF at some point and McLouth moves to left, giving three + defensive OF. Or just sign Matt Holliday, LOL!

Gotta get Marteen on P90X like Matty D…

varoadrunner

September 21st, 2009
6:31 pm

Is Brian McCann really that good of a catcher? I love him. I want him as a Brave. But does he have to catch? We need him fresh and inthe lineup everyday. What are we paying David Ross? He seems to be a better catcher than mac – I say that from a defensive standpoint and not from a ‘handling of piptchers” perpective – although I’m not sure that Ross isn’t as good there also. We need to find a new position for McCann. Has he ever played anything but catcher? First base? Maybe he is our answer at first base and find us a couple of outfielders. Another year of Anderson in the outfield and I will commit Hari cari – or is it harry carry?

Diaz has been great but still comes across as streaky. KJ is another Franceour. Get him out of Atlanta and he’ll be fine. Far too much pressure now. he lost his position and cna’t get the edge back.

Get us outfield bats. How long have we begged?

NEW CARS

September 21st, 2009
6:34 pm

Fielder is the wrong Brewer IMO…I would love to see Ryan Braun in leftfield batting cleanup….Whether its Braun or someone else, we have got to find a consistent major league right handed bat to put in the middle of the lineup. How about a Lowe for Dye or Konerko trade

jeffrey d

September 21st, 2009
6:34 pm

Steve – This Cot’s site is great

NO MORE BOBBY

September 21st, 2009
6:36 pm

curtis jones

This should be Frank Wren’s shopping list:

1. A new manager.

2. A leadoff guy with speed, who can reach base, steal, and play good defense in the OF.

3. A true cleanup hitter to play 1B..hopefully better than LaRoche.

4. A reliable closer.

5. A defensive upgrade in RF…I’m thinking Jason Heyward.

2010 lineup

1 Speed guy CF
2 Prado 2B
3 Escobar SS
4 Power guy 1B
5 McCann C
6 McLouth/Diaz LF
7 C Jones 3B
8 Heyward RF

I think the new players should have those names on back of their jersey – Speedy Guy and Power Guy. That would be awesome!

David O'Brien

September 21st, 2009
6:36 pm

The world’s tallest man was on field before game. He’s 8-foot-1, they said. From Turkey, about 26, but looks older.

It was sad, really. He can’t walk without brace/crutch supports that he holds in his massive, gnarled hands. Until he straightens up, which he doesn’t do much, he’s probably about 7-6. He stood for about 10-15 minutes, with his braces for support, then had to sit back down a while before walking.

It’s a sideshow. I’m assuming that’s how he makes a living, just going around and making appearances like this. He had on a Mets cap and jersey.

Jerome did a little segment with him for the broadcast (the guy had an interpreter). He absolutely towered over Jerome, who’s about 6-5 or 6-6.

Steve from OH

September 21st, 2009
6:37 pm

Angel Villalona: “Soy inocente!”

I can see it now…

Ross: “Hey kid, be sure not to throw this guy inside.”
Medlen: “Why, good inside hitter?”
Ross: “No, he killed the last guy who did it.”
Medlen: [Sh!ts pants]

jeffrey d

September 21st, 2009
6:38 pm

Fielder? Braun? Is crazy trades season starting early?? Or did it just never end?

Someone on here had a good quote around the trade deadline – Other GMs aren’t waking up saying “I wonder how I can help the Braves out today?”

People don’t want Lowe’s giant contract. People aren’t going to overvalue KJ because he had a great second half last year. Put simply, other teams don’t want our garbage/baggage

McFann :Ô:

September 21st, 2009
6:38 pm

varoadrunner We need to find a new position for McCann.

No, we don’t.

Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room

September 21st, 2009
6:40 pm

RE: McFann – No, we don’t. -

lol

jeffrey d

September 21st, 2009
6:42 pm

And other teams aren’t going to give up a guy like Braun. It’d be like us trading Hanson and McCann

Katie

September 21st, 2009
6:42 pm

DOB-
I saw the world’s tallest man on the news the other day. I agree with you that it’s sad, and it seems pretty distasteful to have him at a baseball game just for entertainment

David O'Brien

September 21st, 2009
6:42 pm

Mike in VA: Too early for that, at least as far as hearing names. None being bandied about yet.

Vinings Jim

September 21st, 2009
6:42 pm

jeffrey d – have you not learned that logic has no place on the blog? (at least for 1 or 2 or 56 of our compadres)

Efrim

September 21st, 2009
6:44 pm

Or just sign Matt Holliday, LOL!

That would be nice, and that’s a player I am comfortable giving up a first round selection and a nice chunk of change for.

jeffrey d

September 21st, 2009
6:45 pm

I know that logic isn’t exactly a cornerstone of our blog…it just got so old seeing

“Hey I got an idea! How about we package KJ, Boyer, and JoJo for Halladay??”

Decent Call

September 21st, 2009
6:47 pm

I don’t always agree with every single opinion DOB throws out there but today’s column is spot on.

Even though I know that LaRoche has produced like a champ since returning to the Braves, something just doesn’t feel right with Chipper lobbying for the Braves to re-sign him. It’s a conflict of interest.

Chipper obviously likes having his best bud and business partner on the team and I don’t think I actually fault him for that. I just don’t know if signing LaRoche long term would be a good idea due to the reasons listed by DOB.

Steve from OH

September 21st, 2009
6:47 pm

“Hey I got an idea! How about we package KJ, Boyer, and JoJo for Halladay??”

That’s a good start, but we may have to throw in Norton to complete the deal. If I were Wren, I’d take a hard line and make Norton untouchable though.

braves fan14

September 21st, 2009
6:48 pm

Does anyone have a link 2 watch 2nites game?

Vinings Jim

September 21st, 2009
6:49 pm

jeffrey d – but you’re the type of person who serious fans such as myself despise because you discuss non-essentials such as your Bulldogs. I am always totally serious and focused on making the Braves better based on my trenchant observations… ;)

Chop Chop

September 21st, 2009
6:49 pm

Looks to me like the world’s tallest man wants the attention.

I don’t blame the dude. He might as well make as much money as he can off of it.

Il Cattivo

September 21st, 2009
6:50 pm

The METS are a circus themselves. Seems only fitting they would have the world’s tallest man as a sideshow.

OKGA

September 21st, 2009
6:51 pm

Offer LaRoche a 2 year deal & see what happens. Personally I don’t even think Freeman will be ready in 2011. But why rush him anyway? I’d like to see the Braves let Gonzo & Soriano walk, sign Billy Wagner (anyone know how much he’s asking for?) & let Moylan, Valdez, and Kawakami battle it out for 8th inning guy.

Look at the Braves lineup & rotation. They’ve got a decent team. So why is it that they are just so streaky and inconsistent? I think you have to look at Bobby Cox to find the answer for all the floundering.

bruce

September 21st, 2009
6:52 pm

my guess is Chipper’s bat improvement is due to rest (due to injury) which gives him his bat speed back and more periodic rest during the season is needed to keep him being Chipper… let Chipper be Chipper.

Arizona Brave

September 21st, 2009
6:53 pm

LOL @ steve and jeffrey d

Vinings Jim

September 21st, 2009
6:56 pm

jeffrey d – you also failed to mention what trade we would use to bring Boyer back to us… I think a majority of our brethren would favor sending Chipper to bring Blaine back…

Arizona Brave

September 21st, 2009
6:59 pm

I’m thinking we could trade Heyward to get the actor who plays Mahoney in the Buffalo Wild Wings commercial. That guy had movement on his “fastball.”

Chop Chop

September 21st, 2009
6:59 pm

I’d trade Chipper for Blaine Boyer, but only if the D-Backs will pick Chipper’s entire contract.

Soph

September 21st, 2009
7:01 pm

No, we don’t.

Oh, McFann. :lol:

You handled that very well. I’m impressed.

TnBrian(Vazquez ace 2010)

September 21st, 2009
7:03 pm

Soon as we see Laborin’ Lowe look down at his thumb, call it a night on watching Braves baseball and pop in a good movie.

Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room

September 21st, 2009
7:05 pm

Maybe Atlanta will have to start giving Chipper regular rest…something like the Yankees have done with Arod this year.

One day off every 7 days…plus mixed in off days in the schedule.

Russ

September 21st, 2009
7:05 pm

Jeffery D – Dunn’s salary this year was $8 million and Anderson made $2.5 million per ESPN.com. For an extra $5.5 million, the Braves would have been 5 wins better and right in the thick of the playoff race. The added ticket sales from a closer race along with the huge payoff from actually making the playoffs would have made the Braves much more than the $5.5 million difference.

Efrim

September 21st, 2009
7:06 pm

I’d like to see the Braves let Gonzo & Soriano walk, sign Billy Wagner (anyone know how much he’s asking for?)

Not sure how much Wagner will be asking for, but you realize that we’d give up our first round pick for a 38 year old relief pitcher coming off Tommy John surgery. Matt Holliday? Sure, sign me up. But not for Billy Wagner. Not unless we were set on offering arbitration to Soriano and Gonzo, and sure they weren’t going to accept it.

David O'Brien

September 21st, 2009
7:06 pm

What to do about 1B? Poll added to original blog. Check it out

CB

September 21st, 2009
7:10 pm

Chop Chop,I did fall in love with the worlds leggiest woman.lol

Soph

September 21st, 2009
7:12 pm

Yeah, jeffrey, don’t you know anything?. Just an extra $5.5 mil. I mean if we got Dunn we would’ve sold out every single game and he would’ve singlehandedly carried us to the playoffs. Duh.

Efrim

September 21st, 2009
7:13 pm

I’d really like to see Escobar hit 2nd next year.(or leadoff) Guy has a .380 OBP. With the lack of power bats in the lineup, I understand why they wanted to hit him lower because he has been so good in RBI spots. But hopefully, they add a power bat so it enables BC to hit him there.

Chop Chop

September 21st, 2009
7:13 pm

Is the Verducci Effect just another one of those mysterious statistics that some nerd just made up to taint/ruin our love of scrapitude and guts?

I think so.

Tommy Hanson’s thrown 180 pro innings this season. His previous career high was 138 IP last season. I don’t know about you, but want two more starts for this kid. I want him to throw two complete games. I don’t care if his arm explodes on the mound. F*** it. We’re going to send a message to the NL for 2010.

What message is that?

“We do not care if our pitchers’ arms explode. Suck it, haters.”

TO NEW YORK FANS

September 21st, 2009
7:13 pm

It sure is funny how people who are fans of teams in the northeast always make fun of Braves fans for being bad fans and only showing up when the team is winning yet in watching the Mets game tonight, I see maybe 20,000 in the seats. Gee, where is everyone? Could it have something to do with the Mets being terrible? I don’t care what city you are in, if the team is doing bad, the fans won’t show. It is not only in Atlanta and that includes Yankees fans!

Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room

September 21st, 2009
7:14 pm

Sac Fly = Chipper

Chop Chop

September 21st, 2009
7:15 pm

There’s a missing “I” in that last comment. See if you can find it. If you can’t, just put an “I” somewhere and make it more interesting.

braves fan14

September 21st, 2009
7:16 pm

Any links 2 watch tonites game?

Vinings Jim

September 21st, 2009
7:17 pm

soph – well said

Steve from OH

September 21st, 2009
7:17 pm

Tommy Hanson’s thrown 180 pro innings this season. His previous career high was 138 IP last season.

Add in his AFL innings, and it’s 166, Chop Chop.

We need a 21-inning marathon for Hanson’s next start. Gut it out, Tommy.

P. W. Hjort

September 21st, 2009
7:17 pm

Chop Chop -

I’d trade Chipper for Blaine Boyer, but only if the D-Backs will pick up Chipper’s entire contract.

Why? He’s been worth his money this year and if he’s exactly as bad or good–whatever you want to call it. Perhaps I should’ve said if he’s exactly as valuable–as he has been this year during 2010–aka worth his contract–he’s going to hang it up. It’s a win win.

David O'Brien

September 21st, 2009
7:18 pm

How ’bout that Misch-Thole battery?

Mitchell

September 21st, 2009
7:19 pm

Chipper is about as effective as Reid Gorecki at this point.

McFann :Ô:

September 21st, 2009
7:19 pm

Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room

September 21st, 2009
7:21 pm

I see Escobar ran that one out – ahem

Soph

September 21st, 2009
7:21 pm

Way to hustle, Esco.

:-D

Vinings Jim

September 21st, 2009
7:21 pm

Great hustle, Yunel!

David..(Athens, AL)

September 21st, 2009
7:21 pm

nice hustle by Escobar

Katie

September 21st, 2009
7:21 pm

Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room

September 21st, 2009
7:21 pm

Beautiful swing loaf

Chop Chop

September 21st, 2009
7:21 pm

Pat Misch is awful.

Soph

September 21st, 2009
7:21 pm

Vinings Jim

September 21st, 2009
7:21 pm

Katie

September 21st, 2009
7:22 pm

nice smile from Loaf

David O'Brien

September 21st, 2009
7:22 pm

CRUSHED. Wow. Might be of the longer balls hit here in the first season. Upper tank in right.

BravesFanChris24

September 21st, 2009
7:22 pm

MattyRoss

September 21st, 2009
7:22 pm

Holy crap. Nice hit, GA.

McFann :Ô:

September 21st, 2009
7:22 pm

Hey, this inning rules! Waytago, GA!!

Vinings Jim

September 21st, 2009
7:24 pm

Why in hell is GA hitting ahead of LaRoche, anyway?

StingerSplash

September 21st, 2009
7:24 pm

DOB,

Was that Tar River flood 10 years ago the one that came as a result of Hurricane Floyd? I was living and working in that part of the world then. Lemme tell ya … Floyd inhaled vigorously.

Tomahawkin

September 21st, 2009
7:24 pm

Whooopie (Sarcasm)!

The Braves Awfense Shows up against the AAA mets…Where was this style of offense over last weekend…?

McFann :Ô:

September 21st, 2009
7:24 pm

Soph You handled that very well. I’m impressed.

Thanks! :P

Chop Chop

September 21st, 2009
7:24 pm

Pat Misch doesn’t even get lefties out, so my guess is that this 28-year-old waste of flesh is going to have a difficult time making the 2010 New York Mets.

Mitchell

September 21st, 2009
7:24 pm

And why exactly couldn’t we do that just one inning ago? You know, like, the 9th inning yesterday?

They do this every time. I swear, it drives me crazy.

Tomahawkin

September 21st, 2009
7:25 pm

4-0 lead for D-Lowe again…? Why am I getting flashbacks…?

McFann :Ô:

September 21st, 2009
7:25 pm

How ’bout that Misch-Thole battery?

What’s the big deal with this Thole guy? Joe and Chip were going on about him last week–they said his name every chance they got! It was annoying…What’s up?

Thats ok Lowe will give the Mets those runs back

September 21st, 2009
7:25 pm

Cause his Sanker Ball aint gonna Sank tonite

CB

September 21st, 2009
7:25 pm

Chop Chop, no we are “THAT” good.

rico43

September 21st, 2009
7:25 pm

Admit it — Garret Anderson has given the Braves pretty much what everyone hoped and expected when he was signed. Offense and defense. I give Wren props for getting him late, but in no way does he return.

Steve from OH

September 21st, 2009
7:25 pm

Whooopie (Sarcasm)!

The Braves Awfense Shows up against the AAA mets…

Damned if they do, damned if they don’t, huh?

Dear Florida and Alabama:

September 21st, 2009
7:25 pm

Come get your water.

Signed, Georgia

David..(Athens, AL)

September 21st, 2009
7:28 pm

Dear Florida and Alabama, good comment!!!!!!!

P. W. Hjort

September 21st, 2009
7:29 pm

The correct answer to the poll is:

Offer LaRoche a two-year deal, and consider trading him in 2011 if Freeman’s ready by then

Efrim

September 21st, 2009
7:30 pm

Nice play by Prado.

David O'Brien

September 21st, 2009
7:31 pm

Well done by Prado. Difficult play.

Dear Georgia

September 21st, 2009
7:31 pm

Considering I don’t remember the last day it didn’t rain, I would say that we have plenty. But thanks anyway.

Signed, Alabama

Chop Chop

September 21st, 2009
7:31 pm

Tomahawkin

September 21st, 2009
7:31 pm

Nice play by MP!

Vinings Jim

September 21st, 2009
7:34 pm

P. W. Hjort

September 21st, 2009
7:34 pm

Is this Matt Diaz guy for real?

Mid Town Joe

September 21st, 2009
7:34 pm

Vinings Jim

How’s the ‘Hooche doing behind Lovett Academy?

David O'Brien

September 21st, 2009
7:35 pm

Tell you what, in the Braves’ visits here, the ballpark has not been an impediment to home runs.

Diaz just equaled his career high with 12, by the way.

Efrim

September 21st, 2009
7:35 pm

So……a Diaz/Church platoon wouldn’t be THAT bad, would it? Maybe Diaz/Heyward in RF and a free agent in LF?

BravesFanChris24

September 21st, 2009
7:35 pm

NO MORE BOBBY

September 21st, 2009
7:36 pm

Did anyone else see the lady in stands with a REHAB tee on downing a beer? Ha!

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