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Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 20th, 2009
3:56 pm
Is there any doubt that Joe Mauer is the MVP if the Twins make it?
cabravesfan
September 20th, 2009
3:59 pm
Nova Scotia Steve-
49ers game is not on FOX (at least not here…)
Steve from OH
September 20th, 2009
3:59 pm
Is there any doubt that Joe Mauer is the MVP if the Twins make it?
Mauer is the MVP, hands-down. Leads the AL in BA, OBP and SLG. Not the traditional triple crown, but it’ll do, don’t ya think?
Random
September 20th, 2009
4:00 pm
TnBrian (September 20th, 2009 2:29 pm): “It’s amazing that a 23 year old has the intellegence [sic] to crowd Howard with pitches, but our vets have too much pride to do that or don’t realize it.”
Yeh, yeh, yeh — try sellin’ that siht to Boone Logan. (Or can you not remember even two games ago?)
And through his first eleven games against the Braves this year (43 ABs), Howard hit .232/.244/.419/.663, with one HR, four RBIs and EIGHT strike-outs.
It wasn’t Tommy Hanson getting him out each and every one of those 34 times that he didn’t reach base. I think some of the Braves’ “vets” may have been involved.
PS: You too, Tomahawkin (September 20th, 2009 2:36 pm).
richbrave
September 20th, 2009
4:01 pm
Got to pick it up guys. Can’t afford a loss here.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 20th, 2009
4:02 pm
Mauer is the MVP, hands-down. Leads the AL in BA, OBP and SLG. Not the traditional triple crown, but it’ll do, don’t ya think?
No. But I do think he is a beast…
The Twins rapidly became my favorite AL team last year, that game against the White Sox reminded me of the Glavine WS game when Justice hit the HR…
McFann :Ô:
September 20th, 2009
4:05 pm
Soph–
Yeah! They cut out the bloopers! What a gip. That’s like, the whole reason I was watching it–baseball bloopers are great!
McFann :Ô:
September 20th, 2009
4:06 pm
Ew…come on, guys! This is a family Blog! What’s with all the Mauer talk? There are girls on here, ya know!
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 20th, 2009
4:06 pm
Steve from OH,
I think the MVP thing is very stupid….
For instance, if the Braves make the playoffs, Martin Prado should be the NL MVP.
But it will go to Pujols, even though the Cardinals would have won without him…
Pujols should get the Hank Aaron award, but not the MVP. However, the Twins would be no where without Mauer, thus, MVP…
Random
September 20th, 2009
4:06 pm
Rob from SC (September 19th, 2009 1:58 pm): “Chipper hasn’t run hard for years.”
Oh, yeah?
So how come Jones already has TEN infield hits this season, and 24 (so far) in the past three years?
You’re as bad as Jeff321 for simply making stuff up, aren’t you?
Your And Idiot.
And a Hater.
You too, TnBrian (September 19th, 2009 2:05 pm).
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 20th, 2009
4:07 pm
Ew…come on, guys! This is a family Blog! What’s with all the Mauer talk? There are girls on here, ya know!
Jealous much?
Tomahawkin
September 20th, 2009
4:09 pm
Game Over Falcons win on a pick, barring a diaster
dogsbrekky - Drogba is a Beast
September 20th, 2009
4:09 pm
Mauer can “catch” too
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 20th, 2009
4:09 pm
cabravesfan…
Yeah they’re showing TB/Buf in Canada
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 20th, 2009
4:11 pm
ok are we starting this Braves game or what?
Gustopher
September 20th, 2009
4:11 pm
Great blog CR. I was just talking about Chipper moving to first with my girlfriend this morning
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 20th, 2009
4:11 pm
Whats going on in terms of the delay?
I have MLB.TV sooo…
cabravesfan
September 20th, 2009
4:11 pm
NS Steve-
I actually don’t get a 2nd game on FOX- I get Ravens/Chargers on CBS…no worries though- this is why I pay all that money for NFL Sunday Ticket
Soph
September 20th, 2009
4:14 pm
Hmmm, I don’t get a 2nd game on Fox either. I guess I’ll be watching Steelers/Bears on CBS. Hopefully, after a Falcons win…
McFann :Ô:
September 20th, 2009
4:15 pm
JJ4NLCY Jealous much?
Of him? Pfff!! That’s a laugh! Plays in an air-conditioned stadium, can DH…But he is a good player. Not gonna deny that. Just sayin’…
dogsbrekky Mauer can “catch” too
Don’t hand me that…I know what you’re trying to do!
Besides, BMac cann catch…it’s the throwing that he has a little trouble with…
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 20th, 2009
4:15 pm
49ers got a great opening drive going…
Tomy Fournier
September 20th, 2009
4:16 pm
FOR ME…THE MVP…WILL BE MR. CHIPPER JONES…WITH MR. NORTON…THE BEST..YES!!!!……AHHHHHH!~!!##@@!$$%%^^$#%!!!!AND WHAT ABOUT THE MANAGER AWARD…YES…TO MR. MORON COX….YESSSSSSS….AHHHHH!!!&&%%#@##$$$.
jeffrey d
September 20th, 2009
4:16 pm
I’m digging these “new” Falcons unis
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 20th, 2009
4:17 pm
Jamie Moyer needs 2 SO to reach 2335, 41st all time, passing Early Wynn
Raul Ibanez needs 3 hits to reach 1,500
Garret Anderson needs 1 double to 37th all time, passing Joe Cronin (516)
Chipper Jones needs 5 hits to reach 2,4000
Loaf’s project date to reach 2,500 hits is 10/1/09 against the Nationals
Carroll Rogers
September 20th, 2009
4:17 pm
Tarp is coming back on. …geez. And that’s not the first word that popped into my mind.
Random
September 20th, 2009
4:17 pm
Jurrjens4NLCY (September 20th, 2009 4:06 pm): “Steve from OH, I think the MVP thing is very stupid…. For instance, if the Braves make the playoffs, Martin Prado should be the NL MVP. But it will go to Pujols, even though the Cardinals would have won without him… Pujols should get the Hank Aaron award, but not the MVP. However, the Twins would be no where without Mauer, thus, MVP…”
Do you agree (with me and a few others) that the league MVP should be the player who was most valuable to his team regardless of how the team itself finishes?
If so, lemme know what you think of this reasoning:
The value of a player to a team is simply how much he contributed to the team’s wins, since wins are the only thing a team qua team values.
So it doesn’t matter in the least how well a player performs in his team’s losses, just how he performs in the team’s wins.
In which case, you should evaluate every player’s stats for only the games which their team won. Whatever your preferred stats may be (AVG, RBIs, VORP, OPS+, etc, etc) — evaluate players’ performances with your stat of choice for only those games their teams won.
The result would be a better start to selecting a leauge MVP than anything we’ve ever seen yet, imho.
Whaddaya think?
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 20th, 2009
4:19 pm
Tarp is coming back on. …geez. And that’s not the first word that popped into my mind.
YYYYYYEYEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!
Soph
September 20th, 2009
4:19 pm
Yeah, the unis grew on me. I guess throwbacks are okay after all.
jeffrey d
September 20th, 2009
4:22 pm
You didn’t like them at first Soph? As soon as I flipped it to the game I was like “Woah! Nice!”
Tomahawkin
September 20th, 2009
4:23 pm
Yeah Jeffrey D
Those Throwback Falcons unis are clean…!
cabravesfan
September 20th, 2009
4:23 pm
I’m a fan of some of the old unis…49ers went back to their Cherry Reds this year- love them! (and the Chargers powder blues may be the best in football- wish they’d go back to those permanently)
McFann :Ô:
September 20th, 2009
4:24 pm
Random Do you agree (with me and a few others) that the league MVP should be the player who was most valuable to his team regardless of how the team itself finishes?
Yes. That’s why I think BMac should have at least gotten a vote last year. Instead, that last vote went to Nate…McLouth…Hmm. And he’s on the team now.
Soph
September 20th, 2009
4:25 pm
I didn’t hate them – I just didn’t like the red helmets with black unis when I saw pics of them a few weeks ago but they do look nice on tv.
Soph
September 20th, 2009
4:26 pm
I love the Chargers powder blue unis! My fav.
jeffrey d
September 20th, 2009
4:26 pm
Just…the red and black is a nice color combination (and I’m not saying that as a Georgia fan. They go great together). And having that old Falcon bird on there too is boss.
This is getting uncomfortable….
Soph
September 20th, 2009
4:26 pm
Ugh, Falcons. End it already!
cabravesfan
September 20th, 2009
4:27 pm
Wow- Falcons nearly [expletive deleted] that one up there…
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 20th, 2009
4:27 pm
Random,
I wouldn’t say it’s “regardless of how the team” places. In baseball, the goal is to win the World Series, or at least, make the playoffs. If your team doesn’t make the playoffs, well, then your performance, your stats aren’t “valuable”. I realize that is really black and white. I do believe that the MVP award should go to the player thats most valuable (Duh, I know, but it hasn’t been that way in the past…). If you take away his production, does the team still have a shot?
If you take away Martin Prado’s performance, the Braves would be under .500.
If you take away Albert Pujols’s performance, the Cardinals are still a lock for the title…
I think the MVP should be determined by WARP, something along those lines…
Tomahawkin
September 20th, 2009
4:27 pm
Whew! That was Close on that hail mary at the Dome
jeffrey d
September 20th, 2009
4:27 pm
WHEW!
I’m 4-1 this weekend Soph. What about you?
Soph
September 20th, 2009
4:28 pm
Holy geez. That was too close. Whew.
Great game for Ryan!
dogsbrekky - Drogba is a Beast
September 20th, 2009
4:29 pm
McFann – I still love you though kid !
Soph
September 20th, 2009
4:30 pm
Well, jeffrey according to my calculations I’m 2-3. But, I haven’t counted the Braves game from today. Oh, but I think I should get a W for the UGA win yesterday since Petrino lost. So, 3-3.
cabravesfan
September 20th, 2009
4:31 pm
Sorry…
FRANK GORE!!! God I love that man
Random
September 20th, 2009
4:32 pm
McFann :Ô: (September 20th, 2009 10:37 am): “LOL! Funny, funny…”
Thanks, kid.
” ‘Plus, McCann waited until the 7th pitch to loft a soft double behind the CFer’ (R)
“Haha! Wasn’t a “soft” double…the thing almost left the ballpark…”
Okay, okay — so the runners had to hold up to make sure it wasn’t caught (there were none out at the time).
Whatever.
Carroll Rogers
September 20th, 2009
4:32 pm
Tarp is coming off. Stop me if you’ve heard this before!
abwright
September 20th, 2009
4:33 pm
With both teams travelling, is there any chance that this game gets rained out? Or, will they stay at the park til midnight trying to get it in?
I’m guessing that both Hanson and Lee are done. Who are the Braves planning to bring in to get the last four innings? Kawakami? Medlen? Carlyle?
jeffrey d
September 20th, 2009
4:33 pm
3 losses? Braves & ‘Creek on Friday….did GA State find a way to lose last night?
dogsbrekky - Drogba is a Beast
September 20th, 2009
4:33 pm
Fashion week finished last week gals and guys …. I could give 2 hoots whether Hanson throws in a blue jersey, red jersey or a pink tutu as long as he is as good as usual
Soph
September 20th, 2009
4:34 pm
Hmmm, USC fell to 12 in the polls.
Carroll Rogers
September 20th, 2009
4:35 pm
4:55 p.m. re-start time
jeffrey d
September 20th, 2009
4:35 pm
McFann – do you have a link to the pic of the rally turtle? Some looney wants to post it on the blog’s Facebook group.
Steve from OH
September 20th, 2009
4:35 pm
How exactly did Ohio State deserve to fall to 13th this week?
Soph
September 20th, 2009
4:37 pm
Yes, jeffrey they did. I pretended like they were playing in my mind yesterday and they lost. Sad, huh?
cabravesfan
September 20th, 2009
4:37 pm
Steve-
Not sure but the same thing happened to USC last year- we beat Washington State 70-0 and dropped…if someone can explain the thinking of the voters I would really like to hear it…
P. W. Hjort
September 20th, 2009
4:37 pm
Random,
I don’t think that’s a terrible idea WRT MVP and wins.
RHR
September 20th, 2009
4:38 pm
OMG YAY! Spotlight Brian McCann! I’ve been waiting to see this!
McFann :Ô:
September 20th, 2009
4:38 pm
dogsbrekky–
Hmm…thanks. But the best way to win my love isn’t to take pot-shots at my mann…
Random–
You’re welcome.
Okay, okay — so the runners had to hold up to make sure it wasn’t caught (there were none out at the time).
Well, alright. I’ll give you that…
jeffrey d–
Hmm…don’t have one at the moment, but I’ll get one for ya!
Thanks for the update, Ms. Rogers!
jeffrey d
September 20th, 2009
4:39 pm
How about Matt Ryan today? I was pretty cheesed when we didn’t take Glenn Dorsey last year. I definitely didn’t think Ryan was a top 3 pick. I mean, he wasn’t that great in college in a not so great conference.
Glad TD knew something a lot of us didn’t.
Random
September 20th, 2009
4:40 pm
McFann :Ô: (September 20th, 2009 4:24 pm): “Yes. That’s why I think BMac should have at least gotten a vote last year.”
Okay.
But whadja thinka the resta my comment?
cabravesfan
September 20th, 2009
4:40 pm
Frank Gore…
Last Week: 31 yards in 4 quarters
This Week: 102 in 1
jeffrey d
September 20th, 2009
4:41 pm
McCann sure was an ugly baby
McFann :Ô:
September 20th, 2009
4:41 pm
Here ya go, jeffrey! Just make sure everyone knows where he came from!
P. W. Hjort
September 20th, 2009
4:41 pm
Then again, I don’t think that’s enough criteria, because a win to one team is not the same as a win to another team. Having a player that nets the Braves 3 more wins is much more valuable than the same player playing for the Nationals, because what’s more valuable, a 65 win season or a 62 win season? The 65 win season, of course, but not by much. On the other hand, the difference between an 88 win season and a 91 win season is huge. A 91 win season is much more valuable than an 88 win season.
Soph
September 20th, 2009
4:42 pm
I knew something too, jeffrey. I loved the pick since we needed a franchise QB. I even DVR’d it so that I could rub it in my brother’s face years down the road. He hated it.
jeffrey d
September 20th, 2009
4:43 pm
I would’ve said 2-2-1, but tomayto tomahto
jeffrey d
September 20th, 2009
4:44 pm
Wow, that turtle’s a lot bigger than I expected it to be. Do you still have it as a pet?
Thanks McFann. The looney thanks you as well.
Soph
September 20th, 2009
4:44 pm
I hate ties. I’ll take the loss.
dogsbrekky - Drogba is a Beast
September 20th, 2009
4:44 pm
That is a bloody attractive turtle…. if I do say so myself…. oops I did
“Am I not turtley enough for the Turtle Club…. turtle… turtle”
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 20th, 2009
4:44 pm
Another thing about awards…
ROY should not be determined by how valuable his is… It should be by how good he is.
JJ should have been the 08 NL ROY. But because Soto helped the Cubs get to the playoffs, he won it.
GRR!
McFann :Ô:
September 20th, 2009
4:44 pm
Random–
Int’resting…If that be the case, then BMac oughta get a vote or two this year!
jeffrey d–
I take my photo back…
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 20th, 2009
4:47 pm
Random,
I wouldn’t say it’s “regardless of how the team” places. In baseball, the goal is to win the World Series, or at least, make the playoffs. If your team doesn’t make the playoffs, well, then your performance, your stats aren’t “valuable”. I realize that is really black and white. I do believe that the MVP award should go to the player thats most valuable (Duh, I know, but it hasn’t been that way in the past…). If you take away his production, does the team still have a shot?
If you take away Martin Prado’s performance, the Braves would be under .500.
If you take away Albert Pujols’s performance, the Cardinals are still a lock for the title…
I think the MVP should be determined by WARP, something along those lines…
jeffrey d
September 20th, 2009
4:47 pm
It just didn’t translate for me. How Ryan was decent in college and turned out to be well above average in the NFL.
Same with Stafford….I didn’t see him as anything too special in college and I’m not sure if he’ll be great in the NFL. Hope he is, though.
Random
September 20th, 2009
4:48 pm
Jurrjens4NLCY (September 20th, 2009 4:27 pm): “I wouldn’t say it’s “regardless of how the team” places. In baseball, the goal is to win the World Series, or at least, make the playoffs. If your team doesn’t make the playoffs, well, then your performance, your stats aren’t “valuable”. I realize that is really black and white.”
Yeah, well, I reject that approach (even though it seems to me now that it could be considered an extension of my own approach. Hmmmmm — I’ll have to think some more on that). Imo (for now), the league MVP does not necessarily have to come from one of the four play-off teams (or even from a team that barely missed the play-offs).
Oh, well.
(Plus, you seem to contradict yourself when you later say “I do believe that the MVP award should go to the player thats most valuable [to his team.]“
No matter — es macht nichts (”mox nix”).
jeffrey d
September 20th, 2009
4:48 pm
Well I didn’t say he was still ugly.
Soph
September 20th, 2009
4:50 pm
Well I didn’t say he was still ugly.
So, you think he’s cute now?
jeffrey d
September 20th, 2009
4:51 pm
Yes, Brian McCann is adorable (I forget how to do the eye rolling smiley)
Soph
September 20th, 2009
4:52 pm
Here, I’ll do it for you.
See McFann, it’s ok. jeffrey thinks Mac is cute.
jeffrey d
September 20th, 2009
4:52 pm
Geovany Soto had a great year last year…he didn’t win the award just because the Cubs made the playoffs. He had numbers comparable (if not better) than McCann. As a rookie. I think you may be just a tad biased for Jurrjens.
P. W. Hjort
September 20th, 2009
4:53 pm
Phillies starters have totaled 10 innings in this series.
jeffrey d
September 20th, 2009
4:54 pm
New pitcher’s got a guy
jeffrey d
September 20th, 2009
4:54 pm
He’s got a gut too.
Carroll Rogers
September 20th, 2009
4:54 pm
it’s Medlen, warming up
dogsbrekky - Drogba is a Beast
September 20th, 2009
4:55 pm
McCann is a like one of those plus sized models…. attractive until they do a photo-shoot where you see the belly !
Carroll Rogers
September 20th, 2009
4:56 pm
P.W. Hjort, I was about to say that. 3 innings by Happ, 3 by Pedro, 4 by Cliff Lee
jeffrey d
September 20th, 2009
4:56 pm
How can you see if it’s him Carroll? He must be standing on phone books.
Soph
September 20th, 2009
4:57 pm
He’s got a gut too.
That’s the cute part? I guess?
jeffrey d
September 20th, 2009
4:58 pm
no no no….that gut part was for my previous comment. When I said the new pitcher had a guy. Meant to say he had a gut.
Carroll Rogers
September 20th, 2009
4:58 pm
i think the tiny black bugs like my bright green shirt. They think I’m a tree or something.
dogsbrekky - Drogba is a Beast
September 20th, 2009
4:58 pm
jeff d – who is tallest
Prado
McLouth
Medlen
Kevin Connelly from Entourage
Tom Cruise or
Snitker ?
jeffrey d
September 20th, 2009
4:59 pm
You thought I was trying to be excessively mean to McFann or something?
Carroll Rogers
September 20th, 2009
5:00 pm
the drill just got taken down by the hammer in a puddle during the tool race.
jeffrey d
September 20th, 2009
5:00 pm
I’m gonna go with Prado on that one.
CallUpHeyward
September 20th, 2009
5:00 pm
If I’m the Braves, Chipper Jones comments, wants, wishes and desires have as little impact on my thinking as his thoughts ever have. He hasn’t produced, he hasn’t been a leader and he has spoken out negatively against the organization several times. I would tell Chipper that he needs to spend less time negotiating for Adam LaRoche and more time in the batting cage working on his swing or in the hot tub soaking his groin.
tiny black bug.... bzzzzzzzz
September 20th, 2009
5:00 pm
hey carroll– let me blog!! bzzzzzzz
Soph
September 20th, 2009
5:00 pm
dogsbrekky, you should add jeffrey to that list.
jeffrey d
September 20th, 2009
5:01 pm
Carroll – do you guys in the press box ever place money on the tool races?
dogsbrekky - Drogba is a Beast
September 20th, 2009
5:01 pm
jeff d – bugger I meant Infante, but I guess he is 5 feet 8 1/2 as well…
jeffrey d
September 20th, 2009
5:02 pm
dogsbrekky, you should add jeffrey to that list.
Hey now…jeffrey is somewhere between McLouth and McCann. Jerk.
Boo
September 20th, 2009
5:03 pm
Medlan reeks.