It’s seven in a row and 4-1/2 back, but with only 16 games to play. So are you in? Are you back aboard the Braves bandwagon, if you ever got off? Or were you ever on to begin with?
These are strange times to follow this team, aren’t they? Many of you Braves fans have had your hearts broken a few times these past few years, allowed yourselves to believe more than once, got caught up in the promise of rising young talent and/or a few key offseason additions.
Only to be left standing there in September wondering, what just happened and how did I let myself get caught up in it again?

Braves go for eighth in a row tonight behind Tim Hudson
Anyway, here we are, the Braves having followed their most disappointing week (that 1-6 stretch that we thought was the proverbial final nail in the coffin) with their best week in recent memory, a 7-0 stretch that’s included sweeps against the powerful Cardinals (in Baseball Town, no less) and the injury-depleted, flushing Mets.
But the most frustrating part for the Braves is the fact that they are playing their best ball in so long — they are 10 games over .500 for the first time since they were 25-15 in May 2007 — and yet are no longer in control of their own destiny. They gave up most of that desinty control with their 34-40 start, but certainly handed over most of the rest with their 1-6 week including being swept by the Reds at home.
After that, the Braves were put in position of having to win most of their remaining games, but also needing those teams ahead of them to play close to .500 ball the rest of the way.
So far, it’s working out about as well as they could possibly have imagined. They’ve overtaken the Marlins and moved into third in the division, only 4-1/2 behind the Rockies, who are suddenly looking a bit vulnerable again after their sustained tear thrust them into the wild-card lead, and one game behind the Giants, who are pitching-loaded like the Braves, but don’t have as good a lineup.
The Phillies are in town for a three-game series starting tonight, and hopefully we’ll be able to get in some ball between flood warnings and torrential downpours.
The Braves are still 7-1/2 games behind Philly in the East, so it would take nothing short of a sweep to make that conversation interesting. But imagine if, somehow, they swept the Phillies and were only 4-1/2 out with 13 games to play and … OK, let’s wait a day or two before even bringing up that possibility.
So here we go. Just a 16-game spring to the finish, only one-tenth of the season remaining, and the Braves need to keep playing like they have, probably needing 12-14 wins the rest of the way to overtake or at least tie the Rockies and force a one-game playoff to determine the wild-card winner.
Do you all think they are up for it? They’ve gotten to this point before, where they’ve forced us to step back and go, “well, maybe…”, only to then lay an egg and leave everyone cursing and wondering what happened to the team that had just reeled off all those wins with the clutch hitting and the great defense, etc.
The pitching, that’s been there all season. Unwavering, at least in the starting rotation. The bullpen had a couple of stretches, particularly early, where they blew a few wins. But for the most part, the relievers have done a solid job this season, particularly the workhorse quartet at the back of the ‘pen, led by Outlaw Pete Moylan.
But the hitting? Hit or miss. Without rhyme or reason. They’ll go on a two-week binge, then a collective skid the depths of which will make your head spin and leave Terry Pendleton – not to mention you all – with hands in the air looking for answers.
Right now, they’re hitting. Boy, are they ever. And this comes on the heels of one of those awful funks. Go figure this team. I dare you to try.
They hit .172 and totaled just 17 runs during that 1-6 stretch through a 2-1 loss at Houston on Sept. 9. In seven games since, the Braves have hit .333 and scored 45 runs, including six or more runs in six games.
They had scored two runs or fewer in five consecutive games before this seven-game blitz.
Can they keep it up? Or have you seen it enough times to expect a collective funk right about now, with the Braves scoring maybe five runs in the entire series against the Phillies? I’m asking you, because I’ve just about given up trying to predict what this team’s gonna do.
♣ Since June 28: I had in the paper today that the Braves have the third-best record in the NL since June 28. Which is correct. Only the Rockies aren’t one of the two teams with a better record in that stretch; it’s Philly and St. Louis.
The best records in the league in that period belong to Philly (47-26), St. Louis (44-27), Atlanta (44-28), Colorado (44-29), and San Francisco (40-33).
And guess what? Among those five teams, the Braves have the best ERA (3.29), best team batting average (.274) and most runs (356) in that period.
If any Brave ever says again that a fast start is not important, because Braves teams of the past routinely overcame sluggish starts … well, I really don’t think any of these current Braves would say that again anytime soon. So nevermind.
♣ Matt Diaz and Ryan Howard: Not too often that those two are mentioned in the same breath, but this weekend they might just be the chief concern of pitchers on the opposing side.
Diaz has torched Philly pitching and Howard has been a Braves menace for his entire career. Chipper Jones has put up big numbers against the Phillies throughout his career, but Chipper’s been out of the lineup a few days with a groin pull and been in a slump for … well, a long time. You might have heard.
Anyway, Diaz has hit .529 (18-for-34) with five doubles, four homers, 10 RBI and a tidy 1.597 OPS in 10 games against the Phillies this season. Next-best for the Braves is Martin Prado, who’s 15-for-33 (.455) with two homers and eight RBI against them, and seems to be snapping out of his recent slump and coming around just in time to perhaps a big series.
For his career, Diaz has hit .368 with a 1.057 OPS, six homers and 24 RBI in 39 games against the Phillies, but those numbers are spiked more recently. He’s hit .424 with five homers and 17 RBI in 22 games against them since may 27, 2007, including, including those four homers in 10 games this season.
Oddly enough, May 27, 2007, was also the date when Howard took things to another level against Braves pitching. In 43 games beginning then, Howard has hit .327 with 30 extra-base hits (18 home runs), 50 RBI, a .400 OBP and .747 slugging percentage against the Bravos.
That’s ridiculous.
And it’s only gotten crazier lately. Howard hit .476 (10-for-21) with five homers and nine RBI in six games against the Braves during the last 2-1/2 weeks of August, including a pair of 3-for-3, two-homer games.
The biiig man has a .340 career average and 29 homers with 82 RBI in 81 games against the Braves, including a .333 average with 12 homers and 41 RBI (and a 1.078 OPS) in 39 games at Turner Field.
Walk the dude, we say. If at all possible, under most circumstances, walk the dude.
While Howard and Chase Utley have killed the Braves (between them they have 11 homer and 20 RBI in 15 games against Atlanta this season), old tormentor Shane Victorino and Jimmy Rollins have not.
In 15 games against the Braves, Victorino has hit .164 (10-for-61) with no homers and one RBI, and Rollins is just 8-for-63 (.127) with two doubles, three RBIs, two runs, two walks and a .154 OBP.
In the past 11 games against them, Rollins has hit .136 with no RBI, one run, one walk and one stolen base.
Jair Jurrjens told me before the first home series against the Phillies this season that the Braves’ focus was to keep Rollins and others off the bases in front of the big boppers.
So far, that strategy has paid dividends. Brave have won nine of 15 against them this season. But this weekend, they need a series win, at the very least. And a sweep is what it’ll take to even make the division race a relevant topic.
Tim Hudson vs. J.A. Happ tonight, Javier Vazquez vs. Pedro Martinez on Saturday, and Tommy Hanson vs. Cliff Lee on Sunday. With those pitching matchups and all that’s at stake for the Braves, even rain delays can’t spoil the excitement this weekend.
Or are you allowing yourselves to get excited? You are, aren’t you? Shh. We won’t say anything.
♣ OK, gotta get to the ballpark. Surprised I even got this done, considering I got home at 1:30 a.m., watched the terrific Office season premiere, went to bed at 3 a.m., had a periodontist appointment this morning (floss those teeth, boys and girls, for gum disease is a bad, bad thing) and then got caught up in cleaning and fixing my gutters for a while around lunchtime. You know how good it feels sometimes when you step outside your so-called field of expertise and accomplish something on your own, without paying someone who’d rip you off if they had a chance? That’s how I felt today on my roof, wet and dirty as I cleaned out my gutters — easier to do it when those leaves and all that silt or whatever is all wet — and ended up repairing a gutter that had begun to pull away from the house. Previous owner apparently bent one of those big nails that holds the gutter to the house, those 6- or 8-inch things, and hadn’t bothered to replace or bend it back. When the gutter loosened away from the house, he then tried to fix it by driving a couple of screws through the inner part of the gutter (I don’t know the terms for this stuff), but in doing so he’d allowed a few of the bottom shingles to get behind the gutter in a couple of spots. So in the torrential downpours of the past couple of days, I had a bunch of leaves and crap in those particular spots in the gutters, so I was getting big spillover both to the outside of the gutter and also a bunch of water seeping between the gutter and the side of the house, and noticed it was starting to cause some molding undernearth, etc.
Long story short (well, long story not as long): I had my butt on the roof, hanging over the side, straightening that big nail, then pulling the shingles from behind the gutter and tightening it back up. And while up there, I went ahead and cleaned all the gutters. Tons of leaves. A productive morning.
Now, let’s get to work.

Bonnie "Prince" Billy ... aka Will Oldham (New Yorker photo)
“EASY DOES IT” by Bonnie “Prince” Billy (W. Oldham)
When there’s only one thing I can do
Well you know that I still don’t want to do
When there’s just one way to get through
Sometimes I still don’t want to go through with it
There are other ways I used to think
to find my way around
the wood and the caves and the bad woman’s ways
that are always to be found
and I have done enough right
dirt and wrong can now boaster my might
and love I can’t find it again
in someone sitting close in the flashes of sin
there are other ways, I used to think,
to find my way around
the woods and the smell and the word of farewell
that I always had to sound
now there is just one way
I stretch out my arms and cry to that
just one day
I number the friends and the family that love me
I welcome the ring of the moonlight above me
and I wander, and lay in whatever old bed
with good, earthly music singing into my head
there’s a path
there’s a beach
there’s a horseshoe crab
there’s my brothers, my girlfriends
my mom, and my dad
and there’s me
and that’s all there needs to be
now there is just one way
I stretch out my arms and cry to that
just one day
I number the friends and the family that love me
I welcome the ring of the moonlight above me
and I wander, and lay in whatever old bed
with good, earthly music singing into my head
2,474 comments Add your comment
Daybed Wagmoe
September 18th, 2009
3:32 pm
FIRST
Firearm
September 18th, 2009
3:33 pm
They can, but the Braves making the playoffs is too dependent on the Rockies losing games.
Dale Murphy's Mole
September 18th, 2009
3:35 pm
third!
CB
September 18th, 2009
3:36 pm
DOB,is it my imagination? Do you wait on me foe a posting and then press New Bloggage? huh
DAP
September 18th, 2009
3:37 pm
if the braves had 80 wins right not instead of 78, i would still say they were going to win this thing. right now though, im not to sure. they are going to need a couple more sweeps, hopefully one against the phils this series. if the braves sweep the phillies to get to 10 wins in a row, they are right in the middle of both races again. c’mon bravos…
Dale Murphy's Mole
September 18th, 2009
3:38 pm
Of course they CAN. They CAN win every game left and win the East. But with the way this team has played, I more expect them to sweep the Phillies, then get swept agains thte Nats or the Mets to end any chance …
Josh Mac
September 18th, 2009
3:38 pm
Atlanta residents — don’t be afraid to actually show up at the ballpark this weekend. The team kind of needs it.
Herschel Talker
September 18th, 2009
3:40 pm
“Do you think Braves can do it?”
No. But it beats the alternative, them having already been eliminated. So let’s enjoy it anyway, but let’s manage expectations accordingly.
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried
September 18th, 2009
3:40 pm
I still don’t know how far I can get involved in this…I don’t know if I can mentally handle another heartbreak.
And please for the love of everything that is holy in this world let’s not let Ryan Howard do it to us again.
But do I believe?
….I can’t fully answer that…ask me on Sunday…
Thrillhouse44
September 18th, 2009
3:40 pm
It can be done. Hopefully it’s a fun couple weeks coming up.
MFin04
September 18th, 2009
3:41 pm
Not too worried about them making the playoffs this year, I really don’t think it’s going to happen. But I’m really enjoying watching this team play. Its not that they’ve won 7 in a row, its that they are playing good ABC baseball, they are playing relatively good defense, and the starting pitching is amazing. Ever since the team got rid of the “easy outs” this team has been very enjoyable to watch. There is the occasional Bobby Cox mismanagement and the occasional bullpen blow up (which both are going to happen with any team), but overall this team has really turned things around in a great way!
I really do wonder how many games this team could win next year, with the same pitching staff + Tim Hudson, and the addition of one more outfielder. With a rotation of JJ, Hudson, Hanson, Vazquez and Lowe/Kawakami, the Braves really wouldn’t need to score that many runs to win games.
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried
September 18th, 2009
3:42 pm
DAP – i totally agree…this streak need to get in the 9 or 10 zone…and I know its only two games…but time is not on our side.
Just keep winning…
abwright
September 18th, 2009
3:43 pm
I predicted months ago that the Phillies starting pitching would unravel late in the season. That was before the Pedro and Lee acquisitions. So far, that prediction has laid an egg. (A big, rotten, stinky egg.)
Tonight would be a good time for that prediction to start coming true!
Hope the Braves decide to back Hanson for ROY by lighting up JA Happ.
Brush and floss every night, y’all. (Seems to be a blog theme lately.)
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
3:45 pm
DOB,
Like the article and lyrics. But who cares if they make it. They have not given up and what more could we ask. Sure, mistakes were made but they don’t count now. I still believe until the magic number is zero. Anything can happen!
RC
September 18th, 2009
3:45 pm
Posted this on the old blog right as the new one went up:
Why not keep all 6 pitchers? KK has shown that he can be effective out of the bullpen, and history has shown you can NEVER have enough starting pitching. I think it’s important for the Braves to protect themselves from giving up games if a starter goes down, and in my mind the best way to do that is have a good starting pitcher in reserve. Assuming the money can also be found to resign LaRoche and that Heyward is ready next season, I think your best shot at winning in 2010 is to add a bullpen arm or two, and push forward with what you’ve got.
Mc21
September 18th, 2009
3:46 pm
I think they could do more if you didn’t have a manager throwing their left handed option out of the pen for the third straight day in a mop up situation when a left handed dominant team is coming in next. With Gonzo’s back bothering him, we needed EOF at full strength for this series.
TNT
September 18th, 2009
3:46 pm
no, they cant do it and wont do it, ive seen enough of this team to make this statement
RC
September 18th, 2009
3:46 pm
“Tim Hudson vs. J.A. Happ tonight, Javier Vazquez vs. Pedro Martinez on Saturday, and Tommy Hanson vs. Cliff Lee on Sunday.”
WOW.
matty
September 18th, 2009
3:46 pm
Enter your comments hereDo we have chipper today Dave?
timthebrave
September 18th, 2009
3:46 pm
I have never been someone to give up on the Braves. I didn’t give up on them in the 80’s when they were god awful so I see no need to give up now. I have always been on the bandwagon so I’m in for the long haul. I always think they will do it but at this point we will also need some help from the teams ahead of us. Go Braves!
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
3:47 pm
Rock On, From the past blog I know Anders wrote that, I just quoted what he wrote, in full. I didn’t even see the post so I don’t even remember what I wrote. Hopefully this blog is better functioning than the last few…
RC
September 18th, 2009
3:47 pm
“no, they cant do it and wont do it, ive seen enough of this team to make this statement” – TNT
And I think we’ve all seen enough of your comments to ignore and dismiss them.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
3:48 pm
Now that you wrote about it? Not a chance in hell.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
3:49 pm
In fact, I may just go ahead and issue the earliest ever….
Ballgame!
Ben
September 18th, 2009
3:49 pm
D.O.B.,———How many seasons do the Braves have before Jair Jurrjens is a free agent? I know Scott Boras is his agent. Perhaps the Braves would be better off trading Jurrjens and keeping Vasquez and Hudson. Maybe the Braves could get a Matt Kemp or similar young player in trade.
timthebrave
September 18th, 2009
3:49 pm
Please for the love of god….Don’t pitch to Howard unless you are forced to. That guy has killed us this year. We may be leading the division if it wasn’t for that #$?!
RHR
September 18th, 2009
3:49 pm
Season!
monty
September 18th, 2009
3:50 pm
Oh what might have been(maybe still could be) if just for a little more hitting this year! 17-(1 run losses), 13-(2 run losses)and only 10 blow out losses of 5 runs or more all year. One thing you can say for sure is the pitching gave us a chance all year.
indianabravesfan
September 18th, 2009
3:50 pm
lets hope we can get at least 30k at the game tonight on a Friday night. i would be there but live in Indiana so come on Atlanta, get out to the park tonight and support the Bravos!!!!
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
3:51 pm
I know the Braves can do it, but can the Rockies and Giants do it? Can SF/Col lose enough so we can cath up is the question.
DAP
September 18th, 2009
3:52 pm
RCWhy not keep all 6 pitchers?
money is really the only reason. i dont think the braves can afford to keep all the pitching and improve other areas as much as they need to.
indianabravesfan
September 18th, 2009
3:52 pm
Ben
4 years until JJ is a free agent as he is arbitration eligible after next year.
indianabravesfan
September 18th, 2009
3:52 pm
Ben
4 years until JJ is a free agent as he is arbitration eligible after next year.
ncscoots
September 18th, 2009
3:53 pm
So are you in? Are you back aboard the Braves bandwagon, if you ever got off?
“Baseball, Ray.”
James Earl knew what he was talking about, I’d say. Nothing like a little winning streak, 10-over, and two weeks left, to make your fandom rise like the sun on a new day. 34-40? Piffle. 1-6? Who cares, LOL. That was then, this is now, and baseball is more about miracles than just about anything else.
One can trot out the logic of probable failure, if one likes, but who would want to do that? How does that compare to the joy of watching the home nine scramble after it like it was the last quarter for the vending machine, LOL? Screw the logic, bubba; when they’re done, they’re done, but until then, it’s still baseball, Ray, and nothing else matters more than the game played today.
Folks who can’t get that should move their fandom to curling; baseball ain’t for them.
Piedmont Blues
September 18th, 2009
3:54 pm
Nice work on the blog and the roof, DOB. And let me second your warning to the kids. Gum disease is no fun at all. My older sister’s been seeing a periodontist since she was a teenager (and she flossed daily). And I’ve had one round of surgery. No fun.
RHR (Playing the role of the annoying proof editor)
September 18th, 2009
3:57 pm
They’ve overtaken the Marlins and moved into third in the division, only 4-1/2 behind the Rockies
Wild card, not division.
So here we go. Just a 16-game spring to the finish,
Sprint, not spring.
A+ on the rest….your roof/gutter story sounds like something I would write. Take that however you’d like.
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
3:58 pm
ncscoots,
Nailed it, Thank YOU!
RHR
September 18th, 2009
3:58 pm
And who doesn’t floss? Ew. That’s like hygiene 101, I thought?
njbraves
September 18th, 2009
3:59 pm
It would be nice to see some fans at the ballpark this weekend. I just don’t understand why no one shows up. Tickets are so cheap, i’d go a couple times a week if I lived down there. I don’t know if they will make it in the long run, but i have a feeling this is going to go down to the wire. Who knows, stranger things have happened.
abwright
September 18th, 2009
3:59 pm
ncscoots, 3:53 pm … “One can trot out the logic of probable failure, if one likes, but who would want to do that? “
Errrrm … two thirds of the posters on this blog during game-time?
ncscoots, 3:53 pm … “Folks who can’t get that should move their fandom to curling;”
Can’t you be a fan of both baseball and curling? I didn’t know there were rules.
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried
September 18th, 2009
4:01 pm
I think our biggest chances to win…are tonight and tomorrow…
I don’t think we knock around Cliff Lee again.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
4:01 pm
Yeah scoots, White Blood Cells thinks you’ve got fire. Congratulations, you scrappy devil you.
space monkey
September 18th, 2009
4:01 pm
We need to sweep the Phils and pray that the DBacks can win at least two games. Those Reds and Astros losses are going to be the difference.
ncscoots
September 18th, 2009
4:02 pm
Can’t you be a fan of both baseball and curling? I didn’t know there were rules.
You’re right, there was no reason that I should offend the fans of curling, LOL. Badly phrased, too late to edit.
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
4:02 pm
I gave up on the squad after they got Clowned by the Reds…
I can’t believe that they won 7 in a row after everyone knew the braves have no chance in hell of making it into October…
JayDubu
September 18th, 2009
4:02 pm
The Braves may have a favorable schedule for the rest of the season. They have 10 games with the Mets and Nats combined. So you’d like to think that would equal 8 or 9 wins.
If they can take 2 of 3 from Philly and 2 of 3 from the Fish, there may be hope left.
But baseball is such a strange game. Now that there’s a slim glimmer of hope, they may just crumble again. In both series when the Braves could have made the division run close with the Phils, they lost 2 of 3.
They can’t afford to do that this time. Some very good pitching matchups in this series.
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
4:03 pm
Abwright,
Leave the scoots alone. It’s fun rooting for this illogical team.
newbravosfan
September 18th, 2009
4:03 pm
I agree it is a huge series and hopefully the park will be packed. The problem is that it has been raining cats and dogs down here the last few days and it is supposed to continue for the next few. I am a little worried that fans will be deterred by the prospect of another two hour rain delay. Hopefully, I am wrong.
RC
September 18th, 2009
4:04 pm
DAP,
My arguement is that they don’t need to improve other areas as much as they need to have depth in the rotation. If you remove the missteps taken at the beginning of this year by giving PT to Kelly Johnson, Jeff Francoeur, and Casey Kotchman, this is a servicable, if not good, offense. And it’s a GOOD ENOUGH offense with a great pitching staff….which the Braves have. While I know they don’t want to rush Heyward, I think he’s ready, and he should at least come close to replicating Anderson’s numbers, with a defensive upgrade. The only hole I see on this team for next year (again, assuming LaRoche is resigned) is the back of the bullpen. That will need to be addressed, but hopefully we can find some inexpensive “high upside” type arms out there and get enough out of them to make it work. OR try to turn some of our long-relief depth into short relievers, either through trade or conditioning.
Hairy Kneecaps
September 18th, 2009
4:05 pm
No.
King521
September 18th, 2009
4:07 pm
NJBraves….
It is because the fans of Atlanta are sad…they are spoiled….and they are too busy cheering for the Red Sox and Yankees and Cubbies (yes still the Cubbies). There is always talk of “once the kids are back in school” the crowds fall apart here. WHY? Does that happen anywhere else in the country?
I also am calling out the fans of ATL….I will be there Sat night and possibly Sunday. Get out to the park and lets catch the freaking Rockies!
timthebrave
September 18th, 2009
4:07 pm
I go to the games as much as I can. My record is now 7-6 on the season with my last game on Tuesday against the Mets. Almost caught Laroche first hr(If I was only 15 feet tall) I have tickets to the last game of the season because I decided at the all star game that it was going to be the clinching game. I wish Braves fans were more like Bulldog fans in their support of the team. Go Braves
ncscoots
September 18th, 2009
4:07 pm
RHR, thanks. I’m pretty sure I’m scrappy and gutty; it just that actual talent outshines my Eckstein-ness.
You’ll be interested to know that I’m working on a new set of sabermetric equations to quantify and map those types of intangibles, though, and hope to be able to publish them in this forum soon. Something for the little people, LOL.
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
4:08 pm
Since the braves are playing under no pressure they take 2 of 3 from philly this weekend, “Bank On It!”
D.O.B.
Do you know I.J. Rosenberg…? Did you replace him as the beat writer…?
The reason I ask is that Rosenberg came out with a book that was a diary of the 1992 season…He also explains what the difference between a beat writer and a columist is, so now I understand your reluctance to call out Bobby and some of the players because beat writers are supposed to keep their feelings to themselves…
Rosenberg also mentioned how moody David Justice was and gave a lot of insight on the players attitudes on the 1992 squad…obviously this was long before the internet, but keep up the good work D.O.B.
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
4:10 pm
timthebrave,
I was there Wednsday. What a game!
timthebrave
September 18th, 2009
4:10 pm
King521, except most of the people on the Braves blog are die hard fans. You’re posting the call out at the wrong location
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
4:10 pm
Wow that I odd about the weather…
The sun is out here in Henry County, so It’s Hot as Balls out here because of the humidity…Y’all know I got that Southside on Deck!
For some reason I bet at least 2 of the games gets delayed this weekend…
Brian the Brain
September 18th, 2009
4:11 pm
Not that it matters considering how the Braves have played down to the sub .500 teams But…..
Team – Games Left – Games Left vs <.500 teams:
Colorado – 15 – 9
San Fran – 16 – 6
Atlanta – 16 – 10
Florida – 15 – 6
RC
September 18th, 2009
4:11 pm
A quick look at the remaining schedules of teams in the playoff race:
COL – 3 @ Ari, 3 vs. SD, 3 vs. STL, 3 vs. MIL, 3 @ LA. Colorado has an easy next 6 games, but if they slip up could be in trouble going into those last 9.
SF – 3 @ LA, 3 @ Ari, 4 vs. ChC, 3 vs. Ari, 3 @ SD. LA seems to be the only real challenge, although they do have 9 of 16 on the road.
FLA – 3 @ CIN, 2 vs. Phi, 3 vs. NYM, 3 @ Atl, 3 @ Phi. Probably the toughest schedule of any team in the race. Also the team farthest out right now….not looking good for FLA.
Phi – 3 @ Atl, 2 @ FLA, 4 @ MIL, 4 vs. Hou, 3 vs. FLA. Not an easy road at all, but they have enough of a cushion that it’s unlikely they drop out of it.
and finally…..
Atl – 3 vs. Phi, 3 @ NYM, 3 @ WAS, 3 vs. FLA, 4 vs. WAS. Only tough games are against those teams they are directly competing with for the playoffs. Making it through the next 3 days will tell us a lot, but really need Col to falter against Ari and SD to have much of a chance.
RemoW
September 18th, 2009
4:13 pm
I am happy. September for the Braves is interesting. Not the same as going to the playoffs for sure. But I care about the games played, beats watching them play out the string.
I am afraid to get my hopes up so I will sit back and watch this 3 games series and keep my fingers crossed. A sweep would make the last 2 weeks exciting!!!
I will also be at the Saturday Dbacks v. Rockies game cheering against the Rockies.
What is the old baseball proverb? “My your games in September be interesting.”
As a side note, regardless of what this team does this season. We have a real solid foundation going in to next year. Haven’t been able to say that for awhile.
Go Bravos!!!
Thrillhouse44
September 18th, 2009
4:13 pm
What’s the book called, Tomahawkin?
RemoW
September 18th, 2009
4:14 pm
Now watch Bobby give Diaz the day off…
RHR
September 18th, 2009
4:14 pm
Tomahawkin! I thought you must’ve had a B.F. and threw your computer out the window.
"Chef" Tim Dix
September 18th, 2009
4:14 pm
DOB, try a light weight cordless or gas leaf blower when leaves are dry.
Works like a charm.
Panties in a wad
September 18th, 2009
4:14 pm
Dave—- Is Chipper ready to play?
fastdave
September 18th, 2009
4:14 pm
mclouth8, prado5, diaz9, mccann2, escobar6, anderson7, laroche3, infante4, hudson1
Jonas
September 18th, 2009
4:15 pm
PLEASE WALK RYAN HOWARD EVERY TIME HE COME UP…….
faninva
September 18th, 2009
4:15 pm
glad to see the time-stamp thing fixed.
RC – nice breakdown.
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
4:15 pm
RC,
Isn’t San Diego like 10 -4 in their last 14 and talking about expanding payroll for 2010. Good young pitching with much to prove the next 3 weeks.
RC
September 18th, 2009
4:15 pm
Brian the Brain,
How does SF only have 6 games left vs. <.500 teams? By my count they have 9 left…..
monty
September 18th, 2009
4:16 pm
Definitely agree that with the current lineup(Chipper back to some semblence of his former self) no way this team starts off 32-40 next year, upgrades or not! The team left as it is should be a shoe-in for the WC or close to it, but it will take more offense to whip dem Phillies for the division.
faninva
September 18th, 2009
4:17 pm
Is chipper ready to play? Hate to say it but I kinda hope he sits even if ready…don’t mess with what’s workin’ right now.
RC
September 18th, 2009
4:17 pm
White Blood Cells,
I am not sure, haven’t been following SD that much lately. If they are really playing that well though, it can only mean good things for the Braves.
Nittany Lion
September 18th, 2009
4:17 pm
You need medication to keep up with the highs and lows of the Braves this year. No consistency. But this seven games in a row is nice.
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
4:17 pm
DOB,
Invest in gutter guards. I know a guy that will charge to much for them.
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
4:17 pm
RHR
LMAO, We got our internet cut off at the Spot, so therefore I’ve been MIA
I stopped watching the braves on the weekends in favor of College Football so therefore I haven’t had a BF in 2 weeks knowing that the braves are eliminated…
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
4:20 pm
Thrillhouse44
The book is called “Encore” by I.J. Rosenberg, It came out in 1992 and its a diary of the 1992 braves squad from S. training to the World Series
The book is pretty dope, it brings back a lot of memories…
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
4:20 pm
RC,
To be more accurate, they are 9-5 in September.
monty
September 18th, 2009
4:20 pm
Jonas
“Please walk Ryan Howard every time he comes up.”
I agree we can’t pitch to him with runners on base. Just plain foolhardy! And we mustn’t pitch to him at all in the 8th or 9th! Sliders down and in. Fastballs up and in, nothing where he can extend.
AndyC
September 18th, 2009
4:21 pm
DOB
I agree that last night’s episode of Office was great. I laughed out loud several times.
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried
September 18th, 2009
4:22 pm
I just going to throw this out there…
If we keep this streak goin like ‘07 Rockies style…I’m probably going to go retarded.
King521
September 18th, 2009
4:22 pm
Totally agree Tim…I love reading this blog because it is truly the ONLY place for die-hard Braves fans…Trust me, I would buy out a one minute spot on the local news if I could and scream at Atlanta to show up this weekend!
Brian the Brain
September 18th, 2009
4:22 pm
RC,
You are right. I forgot to count the second series that they have with Arizona. Corrected below
Team – Games Left – Games Left vs <.500 teams:
Colorado – 15 – 9
San Fran – 16 – 9
Atlanta – 16 – 10
Florida – 15 – 6
The fine cities of Oakland, Miami, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Kansas City, DC, Baltimore, Toronto, San Diego, and Tampa Bay
September 18th, 2009
4:22 pm
WHY? Does that happen anywhere else in the country?
Are you joking?
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
4:23 pm
LINEUP
1. McLouth
2. Prado, 3B
3. Diaz
4. McCann
5. Escobar
6. Anderson
7. LaRoche
8. Infante, 2B
9. Hudson
Jonas
September 18th, 2009
4:23 pm
This the only way the Miracle can Happen:
Braves go 12-4 Rest of Season
Phillis 4-13
Colorado 5-10
San Fran 6-10
And we can win the Division by Points… Braves 90-72 phillis 89-73.
Miracle can Happen..keep the Faith Braves Fan.
abwright
September 18th, 2009
4:23 pm
ncscoots, 4:02 pm … “You’re right, there was no reason that I should offend the fans of curling, LOL. Badly phrased, too late to edit.
”
Whew! You had me worried. (I would put an emoticon here if I used them.)
Some time back, there was a “guide to being a true fan” mentioned. I was afraid that this guide might have an appendix listing what sports you could and could not follow and still be considered a “true baseball fan.”
Since I could never locate this “guide,” I’ve been petrified every time “new rules” on fandom are mentioned. I don’t want to lose my “membership.”
Tiger Woods
September 18th, 2009
4:23 pm
BELIEVE! 6-4 win tonight by the Braves. Mark it down.
monty
September 18th, 2009
4:23 pm
I’d keep Chipper benched until you know for sure he can swing without pain! Prado made that diving grab on the linedrive to his left that Chipper could have only watched.
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried
September 18th, 2009
4:23 pm
RE: Ryan Howard
Monty – “Fastballs up and in, nothing where he can extend.”
One in the ribs wouldn’t be a bad idea either…
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried
September 18th, 2009
4:25 pm
Love the line-up!
Diaz in the 3 hole is interesting however
Thrillhouse44
September 18th, 2009
4:25 pm
Thanks Tomahawkin. Sounds like a good read.
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
4:25 pm
They already changed the lineup — CHIPPER is back in. They posted the above lineup in pressbox, but it’s already changed. Gotta go down and check things out, will be back up. I’d guess Prado is at 2B, but I’ll let you know in a little bit.
AndyC
September 18th, 2009
4:26 pm
DOB
On the gutter issue, you can go to Lowe’s or Home Depot and buy some plastic gutter guards that will cover your gutters and prevent all that crap from getting in there. Not as fancy as the professional Gutter Guard stuff but works just as good and will only cost you $150 or so, depending on big your house is. You can install them yourself. I put some on three years ago and they work great.
RC
September 18th, 2009
4:26 pm
monty,
Not to mention that a team in the playoffs with this pitching could do REALLY well. I honestly think that most of our 2010 holes were fixed DURING 2009, and we are in good shape for next year. Didn’t even include Schafer vs. McLouth in my comparison of how much better the current team is now. I mean, look at these two lineups:
Game 1:
Johnson, 2b
Escobar, SS
Jones, 3b
McCann, C
Anderson, LF
Francoeur, RF
Kotchman, 1b
Schafer, CF
Lowe, P
vs. THIS lineup
Game 142
McClouth, CF
Prado, 2b
Jones, 3b
McCann, C
Anderson, LF
Escobar, SS
LaRoche, 1b
Diaz, RF
Hudson, P
That 2nd lineup is really pretty good, especially with a rotation of Vazquez, Jurrjens, Hudson, Lowe, and Hanson behind it (with Kawakami in for relief).
Danga
September 18th, 2009
4:26 pm
I can’t wait to see a sabremetric equation that defines scrappiness.
Marc in FL
September 18th, 2009
4:27 pm
I don’t think we’re post-season bound, but will watch the remaining games in hope and for enjoyment anyway. Of course I’m also the loony-toon that says Hudson isn’t coming back next, so what do I know.
Lew
September 18th, 2009
4:27 pm
It would be really nice to see the Braves return to the playoffs, especially with this rotation, but it’s always good to just see them playing some winning baseball.
RC
September 18th, 2009
4:27 pm
Jonas,
The Braves COULD do better than 12-4 the rest of the season, in which case those other teams wouldn’t have to do QUITE as poorly.
abwright
September 18th, 2009
4:28 pm
That sure is a “loosey-goosey” line-up. Just shows that BC has joined the fun. Diaz in the 3 hole!
Only thing not “loosey-goosey” …
McCann still has to hold down the four spot.
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
4:28 pm
Nova Scotia Steve,
That’s what I’m talking about – in his ribs. Howard, Werth, Ibanez rank in the top 10 in strikeouts. They can be pitched to!
Just A Fan
September 18th, 2009
4:28 pm
They’re DONE
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
4:28 pm
Chipper must of had one of his “talks” with Bobby.
Let’s hope he drives a couple balls tonight and it not the anti-christ.
faninva
September 18th, 2009
4:29 pm
They already changed the lineup — CHIPPER is back in – DOB
Crap! I really liked Captain Caveman in the 3 spot
hey, where’s Rally McTurtle?
gayle
September 18th, 2009
4:29 pm
Classic Bobby Cox team – lose the games you must win (Cincinnati and split Marlins) then win the games after the race is decided. This team is nothing more than a tease and they will be watching the games on TV in October.
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
4:31 pm
Just A Fan,
Fan of what?
RC
September 18th, 2009
4:31 pm
So….I like that Chipper is trying to get back in the game. But with the way that Prado/Infante are playing, why rush? Having them in the game tonight gives us a) better defense, b) better hitting based on Chipper lately, and c) a chance for Chipper to get healthier so he doesn’t reaggravate anything trying to be a hero tonight. The one advantage we get from Chipper is that he’ll probably see more pitches than Infante…but that’s really about it. Why risk it at this point?
faninva
September 18th, 2009
4:32 pm
RC – Exactly!
Panties in a wad
September 18th, 2009
4:32 pm
I know it probably just seems this way, but…… Are the Braves really a better team without Chipper now? Or is this just a team playing “lossey-goosey” as described in a earlier blog? And why couldnt they play that way sooner? Chokers? Too dispassionate? Cox sux?
So many questions……
Danga
September 18th, 2009
4:33 pm
I couldn’t agree more Lew.
SouthernBelleBrave
September 18th, 2009
4:33 pm
I agree with walking Ryan Howard whenever possible. It would help dramatically!
RC
September 18th, 2009
4:34 pm
I ESPECIALLY don’t like Chipper coming back on a night Huddy’s pitching. Vazquez, JJ, and Hanson strike guys out….Huddy needs his defense to be strong. By putting Chipper in, we have downgraded our infield D at 2 positions (Prado > Chipper at 3b, Infante > Prado at 2b).
You Know Who
September 18th, 2009
4:35 pm
I will ASSURE that we don’t advance to any playoffs. Why? Because huntin’ season is almost ‘ready to roll’ as we say in Texas, so can’t have any distractions from my love of Huntin’ Deer! Fishin’ is also fun and I ain’t about to tap out on my love for some silly October baseball….. been there, done it.
RC
September 18th, 2009
4:35 pm
And Chipper playing with the Howard shift on……ok, I’ve got to let this go. Hope he has a great night.
mudcat
September 18th, 2009
4:38 pm
Getting swept by the Reds at home is REALLY going to come back and haunt us. Unless the Braves sweep the Phillies this weekend, we’re done.
O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
4:38 pm
The fact that the Braves have done well without Chipper in the lineup, can the argument be made that Chipper hurts the team when he is in the lineup (given his current slump)?
CB
September 18th, 2009
4:38 pm
Enjoy the ride, folks! It has been a few years since we had hope in September.
Mc21
September 18th, 2009
4:39 pm
Chipper can only hurt this team right now. With the lefty on the mound, let Omar start. He must have had his feelings hurt when the offense started scoring runs without him.
Captain Caveman?
September 18th, 2009
4:39 pm
The Captain Caveman thing with Diaz? Uh, that nickname was already pinned on another player by Chipper. Find a different nickname
DiamondJim
September 18th, 2009
4:40 pm
Since Chipper has “inserted” himself into the lineup – the Braves lose! Bank on it. The team is playing as a team without him – don’t “fix” something that is working!!
dcp
September 18th, 2009
4:40 pm
They won’t get more than 30,000 and tomorrow will sadly on Ssturday it could be worse because people here are so focused on their college football. This will be a fun series with some really compelling pitching matchups. The Braves can’t slip anymore, but everyone here knows that already. A loss tonight and it’s over. I think the Phils will take 2 of 3 and quietly push the Braves backwards. A sweep would really help, as the Phils have no more easy series – from here it is FL, 4 in MIL, 4 with HOU and 3 with FL. You never know – I just don’t see them faltering with their confidence level and the way they play on the road. Someone mentioned the other day that the Phils had been swept just twice on the road this year (ATL and HOU) plus a 2 game road sweep at NYM and have only lost 6 of 24 series on the road this year. That’s pretty stout.
Billiy Bonkers
September 18th, 2009
4:40 pm
Chipper’s hemmi’s were started to swell up, and he begged Cox to put him in.
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
4:41 pm
Can we boo that big MF Howard when he walks to the plate? Lets get off the hands and let stink butt here a nice round of boos.
ncscoots
September 18th, 2009
4:41 pm
As I mentioned, I’ve been working on “making the intangibles tangible”, so to speak, trying to quantify all that clutchy/scrappy/gutty/urgent stuff that people so like in not-much-talent-but-I-try-real-hard players. After much work, and bow-downs from McCracken and James, plus an offer from Epstein to consult (turned it down; this stuff belongs to the masses), here are the sabermetric measures developed:
ClutchA – Adjusted Clutch, or “clutchiness” – per-game average clutch, adjusted relative to the player’s daily biometrics and contents of the pre-game buffet
GORP – Guts Over Replacement Player – Self-explanatory.
UI – Urgency Index – composite point total of game moments played with a “sense of urgency”, indexed against game effort given. Indexes above 110% are good.
And, finally, GRIT+ – or, “scrappiness” quotient. Raw numbers are adjusted against the league average or David Eckstein’s, whichever is greater.
There you have it. Now when you have some favorite player with infield-fly power, brick-wall hands, and refrigerator speed, you’ll have some statistical evidence to fall back on when you say, “Yeah, but he’s a winner.” LOL
fastasballs
September 18th, 2009
4:42 pm
Good blog Bob Villa, I mean DOB.
I was liking the line up with Diaz in the 3 hole & Escobar in 5 hole, but now with Chipper back in he will be clogging up the middle of the order. I feel dirty in saying this, but I wish Chipper just stayed on the bench for a few more games.
Gwegg Nawton
September 18th, 2009
4:43 pm
Bobby said I can sit where Chipper did! Oh Boy!
mccannfan
September 18th, 2009
4:43 pm
nothing against Chipper but WE HAVE BEEN WINNING WITHOUT HIM…….first sweep of any team in along time. Good grief, Cox simply can’t stand success. I am just shaking my head in disbelief. IF Chipper had been hitting like he used to hit, that would be different…..but he ain’t hittin’ worth crap.
sad thing………..
King521
September 18th, 2009
4:44 pm
Lets give Chipper and his recent .133 average the benefit of the doubt…LET THE HALL OF FAMER PLAY!
dcp
September 18th, 2009
4:45 pm
They won’t get more than 30,000 and sadly on Ssturday it could be worse because people here are so focused on their college football. This will be a fun series with some really compelling pitching matchups. The Braves can’t slip anymore, but everyone here knows that already. I think the Phils will take 2 of 3 and quietly push the Braves backwards. A sweep would really help, and the Phils have no more easy series – from here it is 3 at FL, 4 in MIL, 4 with HOU and 3 with FL. You never know – I just don’t see the Phils faltering with their confidence level and the way they play on the road. Someone mentioned the other day that the Phils had been swept just twice on the road this year (ATL and HOU) plus a 2 game road sweep at NYM and have only lost 6 of 22 series on the road this year. That’s pretty stout. Too many variables for the Braves to overcome in both races. Good progress though.
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
4:45 pm
Chipper is 1-3 against Happ. Single, Groundout and Flyout.
dave
September 18th, 2009
4:45 pm
I love the Braves . . . that said, they are done for this year
Furmanisanidiot
September 18th, 2009
4:45 pm
Keep Chipper on the bench till they lose a game, last thing they need is to see him go up there in the 1st inning, strikeout looking really bad because he’s not healty or is still “tired” and they all follow his funk to a Zero run 3 hit game.
RC
September 18th, 2009
4:45 pm
ncscoots,
Don’t forget about BPLY (Ballplayer). This is a bianary statistic that is either true or false, as in, “I’ll tell you this right now, Garret Anderson is just a BALLPLAYER.”
faninva
September 18th, 2009
4:45 pm
captain Caveman- don’t know about the chipper reference…what player did he give the nickname to? All i know is that i’ve heard it in reference to Diaz from many, including Joe and Boog.
Danga
September 18th, 2009
4:46 pm
Hey Scoots…Could tackle professional next? Not exactly the same as scrappy or urgency but also hard to define.
SouthernBelleBrave
September 18th, 2009
4:47 pm
I was really liking the lineup for tonight…till Chipper decided he wanted a piece of the action. I guess I just don’t understand the reasoning behind messing with something that’s been working for the last 7 games. We need to win (ie SWEEP) the Phils. I don’t know if that’s possible with CJ playing tonight. *Sigh*
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
4:48 pm
Lets not start the Chipper hate just yet. He does seem to play better when given a few days off and with such a gifted hitter, you almost have to have faith that he’ll break out sometime.
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
4:48 pm
I’m worried about the elephant in the room
RC
September 18th, 2009
4:48 pm
There is a high correlation between BPLY (Ballplayer) and PRHT (Professional Hitter).
RC
September 18th, 2009
4:49 pm
“I’m worried about the elephant in the room”
Don’t worry, the elephant relieved himself before we let him inside.
Just Pat
September 18th, 2009
4:51 pm
Did anyone else enjoy the “top 25″ plays last night on Sportsouth as much as I did during the rain delay? Brought back a LOT of memories…..especially Rick Camp’s home run on July 4th.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
4:54 pm
Welp…scoots gets my first ever version of that award Lew gives out.
My award is simply called … The Kickass Award. And here is what you win – http://tinyurl.com/lnm7br
Just let me know your size, and if you aren’t sure about the size, just read the reviews.
ncscoots
September 18th, 2009
4:54 pm
There is a high correlation between BPLY (Ballplayer) and PRHT (Professional Hitter).
Working on it, RC, LOL. You can’t just pull these highly complex computations out of the air, you know.
Brian the Brain
September 18th, 2009
4:57 pm
Off to the house…can’t wait to get home and see what DOB has to say about Chipper.
Joey
September 18th, 2009
4:57 pm
TnBrian, not hating on Chipper, but why not move him to 7th or8th in the order until that “breakout” comes? I mean there an unspoken rule about this? Why does Cox stick him the 3rd spot even when Chipper says “a walk is a moral victory”, and “I’m just tired”? Just asking…
ncscoots
September 18th, 2009
4:58 pm
RHR, that’s entirely too kind. I have to think first before accepting, though, LOL. The shirt might be altogether too cool for me.
chc4
September 18th, 2009
4:58 pm
DOB — the Braves are 4.5 back with 16 to play and TWO teams in front of them. It will take a miracle for them to get in. You make it sound like a 50-50 scenario. It ain’t gonna happen.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
5:00 pm
Also, love that you guys are bashing Chipper mere seconds after his name appeared on the lineup card, keep it coming, tool sheds. You know how I love the baseball gods.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
5:00 pm
KJ riding the bench again
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
5:01 pm
chc4,
Keep it up, can you predict all things future?
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
5:02 pm
Tool sheds?
SouthernBelleBrave
September 18th, 2009
5:03 pm
Just Pat –
Yes! I enjoyed the Top 25 plays last night. Much better than the usual junk they play during delays.
Danga
September 18th, 2009
5:03 pm
Scoots…That post wast great. But RHR…That link is one of the funniest things I have ever read.
braves4ever
September 18th, 2009
5:03 pm
DOB, to answer your question “are you in” , I never jumped off the wagon just got a extra tv with sat hookup to watch football as we ride this ever moving unstable bandwagon into the wildcard.As Lexus would say a “September to remember” (or December)
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
5:03 pm
jeffrey d,
Right where he needs to be.
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
5:06 pm
chc4 – Atlanta is 1 game behind San Fran…you make it sound like it may take a week to catch them and move into second place….it’s one game.
The Giants are also playing the Dodgers this weekend…If we take care of business we’re in second place by the end of the weekend.
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
5:06 pm
Check out Woody P’s message on “Around The Horn”. It says, “Money is the root of all wealth”.
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
5:06 pm
Joey, I believe what Ron Gant said about all this. He said about a week ago that Bobby doesn’t want to draw attention to his players, especially a high profile one like Jones, by benching him or dropping him in the order. I disagree with Cox by batting him 3rd, but I’ll bet he doesn’t do it because of what Gant said.
Tiger Woods
September 18th, 2009
5:07 pm
Crap Chip is in I previously said 6-4 Braves, that was before i knew Chip was in. 4-3 Phils tonight. Darn.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
5:07 pm
Hey…the man’s hitting .417 in the month of September.
nfieldr
September 18th, 2009
5:08 pm
D*mn…. Chipper’s back in the lineup. Prado has been playing a great 3B and we certainly have not missed Chipper’s bat during these last few games.
Just Pat
September 18th, 2009
5:08 pm
I have been “with” the Braves since 1982 and enjoyed the “thrill of victory and the agony of defeat” and have never, ever given up on them……even if it’s only been to say “wait ’til next year” when they’ve been eliminated.
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
5:08 pm
jeffrey d,
Yeah, comming off the bench mostly.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
5:08 pm
Tiger Woods – so you think that with Omar Infante, the cornerstone of this lineup, the Braves will score 2 more runs than if Chipper was in instead of him?
NC Braves Fan
September 18th, 2009
5:09 pm
Should be a fun weekend of baseball! Seeing how the Braves are playing now makes me think about all those games that McLouth, Yunel and to a lesser extent Prado missed … and of course Chipper struggling so much the past couple of months.
What might have been …
Pickin' Daisies
September 18th, 2009
5:10 pm
It’s no fun being I Hater. I AM IN. Go Braves!!!
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
5:10 pm
jeffrey d,
He dosn’t hit right-handed pitching. Weired, wouldn’t you say?
Just Pat
September 18th, 2009
5:10 pm
Oh, yeah…..and have taken TONS of teasing over my “never say die” attitude, too.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
5:11 pm
Good point WBC. If you get a hit coming off the bench then that means the hit doesn’t count.
It’s not his fault he’s coming off the bench.
Mc21
September 18th, 2009
5:11 pm
jeffrey d – Chipper is hitting 3rd. Omar is hitting 8th. With Chipper in the lineup, we have a hole in the middle of the order and now two of our better hitters right now are hitting 7th and 8th. We’re also worse defensively with Chipper in and Prado at 2B, and that’s a big deal with Huddy on the mound.
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
5:11 pm
jeffrey d,
I’ve gone so far as to nickname him F7 or 4-3.
tralfaz
September 18th, 2009
5:11 pm
Chipper back in…just great. Well, the run was good while it lasted. Let the Geezers back in to try to re-live past glory and piss it all away. Hey, RHR, if he does better that one single with no errors, I’ll kiss your butt in the town square
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
5:13 pm
I’m seeing a lot of overreacting at the news of Chipper in the lineup.
Good to have the blog back in order.
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
5:14 pm
jeffrey d,
I like KJ alot and thought he had turned the corner this year. But really, you’d have to admit that he really hasn’t.
faninva
September 18th, 2009
5:15 pm
well, at least some are writing with that much needed “sense of urgency.”
tr
September 18th, 2009
5:16 pm
The team is hot, the schedule is favorable. Not sure if I’m buying, but I am enjoying as I look ahead to 2010!
Just Pat
September 18th, 2009
5:17 pm
Just like yes, the Braves CAN do it, Chipper also CAN do it…..whether or not it happens, well…. we’ll see, I guess.
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
5:17 pm
jeffrey d,
I kind of perfer the “lightning in a bottle” approach KJ may give us as a pinch hitter.
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
5:18 pm
Makes a lot of sense doesn’t it? Omar’s raking, sit him down and bring the powerhouse Larry back in.
So much for the winning streak.
Tiger's Wood
September 18th, 2009
5:18 pm
Jeffrey d, yes the other Tiger is right.
GregNorton
September 18th, 2009
5:19 pm
I think I should be starting.
Tiger's Wood
September 18th, 2009
5:21 pm
Thanks TNBrian, I get it. It’s a “Bobby Cox is a player’s manager” thing…
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
5:21 pm
I’mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm BACK!
I got my laptop fixed and everthang!
COL will go 8 – 8
PHI will go 10 – 7
ATL will have to go 13 – 3 (or 14 – 2)
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
5:22 pm
Chipper will homer tonight.
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
5:23 pm
There’s no question Greg Norton get a pivitol at-bat tonight…It’s almost guarnteed.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
5:23 pm
It’s a “Bobby Cox is a player’s manager” thing…
Hence, He should be the new bench coach…
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
5:24 pm
RE: Greg Norton
Notice I say at-bat and not “a hit”
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
5:24 pm
I’m not saying KJ should be hitting cleanup and given a gigantic raise. I’d just like to see him in the lineup more than once a week. Bobby even called on Greg Norton to pinch before him the other day. Greg Norton! I thought those days were over.
Joey
September 18th, 2009
5:25 pm
Right, Tiger’s Wood, we are stuck with this zillionaire-player-coddling until Cox retires. I’ll bet Mrs Cox is ready for his retirement – been a lot of backhands after losses the last few years I’ll bet…
Just Pat
September 18th, 2009
5:26 pm
WBC…..can’t remember the year from the top 25 last night but we can always HOPE that he has a repeat performance of his very own back to back to back homers. It HAS happened!
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
5:26 pm
Not only is JJ’s laptop fixed, but he can also foresee the future
chc4
September 18th, 2009
5:26 pm
Nova Scotia — If we go 12-4 the last 16, Colorado only needs to win 8 of 15 to clinch. They’ve been plaing .600+ balls since firing their manager 3-4 months ago. Oh and 9 of their 15 games are against San Diego, Arizona and Milwaukee. I’d say there’s about a 1% chance of that all happening. And that assumes the Giants don’t keep up.
I’m just saying all this hope is wishful thinking.
Roman Gal
September 18th, 2009
5:26 pm
Some time back, there was a “guide to being a true fan” mentioned. I was afraid that this guide might have an appendix listing what sports you could and could not follow and still be considered a “true baseball fan.”
As the owner of said book, I feel it is my duty to tell you that there is such an appendix. Basically, it said that a real baseball fan shall not watch or follow any lame sport. It specifically mentions Curling and Cheerleading. Sorry pal….
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
5:27 pm
Not only is JJ’s laptop fixed, but he can also foresee the future
Damn straight. It’s a new app…
CB
September 18th, 2009
5:27 pm
I think I liked it better when the 12 year olds were not here.
Brave in WV
September 18th, 2009
5:28 pm
For all of you that say we are done and have no chance, I better not be seeing you at the Ted if we make the playoffs. Deal?
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
5:28 pm
Jason Marquis and the Rockies lose to Arizona tonight!
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
5:29 pm
Just make sure you use those powers for good, JJ. That’s a mighty powerful responsibility you have.
Zerevon
September 18th, 2009
5:30 pm
It would be a MIRACLE if the Braves pull this one OFF. I am talking about 1991 kind of season..remember the good times remember the early 90’s, Fransisco Cabrera, Fred McGriff and the king of it all Sid Bream…I get teary eyed whenever I remember Sid’s slide to the plate and Skip’s Braves win Braves win….scream…REMEMBER that folks WOW.. why not I am going to watch the games with my family at the Ted this weekend, c’mon folks they need us, lets get behind them…. WE ARE STILL ALIVE yes we are..GO BRAVES…!
CB
September 18th, 2009
5:31 pm
I’m 13, by the way
Just Pat
September 18th, 2009
5:31 pm
Brave in WV……absolutely GREAT post!
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
5:32 pm
Greg Norton will pad a lead with an RBI hit in the 5th of a rain delayed game, thus chasing Happ. The Phightens will be forced into the pen, further exhausting their pitching. When they do need it to salvage on Sunday, it’ll be entirely to late. They will then have one day off before playing a makeup double header on Tuesday in Miami, further exhausting the pitching staff, The Phightens will then hobble home to face Houston for 4 and Milwaukee for 4 losing 6 of those games because Berkman, Lee, Fielder and Braun will terrorize the shoebox in which they play.
Jay212033
September 18th, 2009
5:33 pm
I was really feelin’ the lineup minus Chipper!
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
5:33 pm
How bout those Angels? They’re still complaining about those umps in the Red Sox series and it’s still making headlines.
Bill Hohn was absolutely ridiculous against the Braves. But we didn’t say much after that night. Well, we did, but the Braves didn’t.
bruce
September 18th, 2009
5:33 pm
David –
Was your flooding problem mentioned a day or so ago caused by the gutter pull away and clogged gutters or something else?
I’ve got some downspout parts in my car right now to hopefully fix clogging downspouts… gonna install soon and get the fall leaf and spring pollen test.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
5:35 pm
Just make sure you use those powers for good, JJ. That’s a mighty powerful responsibility you have.
You got it…
By the by, On Monday your keys will be in your right pocket on your Levi’s with that little rip over the thigh, and your sunglasses will be on your head. I just saved you 35 minutes on your way to work. Your welcome, oh and watch out for side-swipes at intersections (Thats all I’ll say about that…)
Bushwacker
September 18th, 2009
5:37 pm
Dave,
I did not realize the other day when I getting on Chipper for quiting on the team that we were only 5 back, now 4 1/2, I assumed once it hit 9 we were done.
I’m still mad at Chipper and if we end up missing the playoffs by a game or 2, I’ll be even madder at CJ.
Even though he is hurt, I still say taking himself out out of the lineup contributed to that 1 – 6 week.
But if we can some how take 2 of 3 from Phillie and win 12-13 of the last 16 we got a shot,Go Braves!!!
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
5:38 pm
Well I meant more for fighting crime, but thanks…I can never find my keys.
Chipster
September 18th, 2009
5:38 pm
So, I was about to explain to Coach, that, you know, I kind of strained my Johnson Tendon while picking my nose and I needed a couple more days off, when he started talking about “Aw go ahead, Scrotum-head, we’re doing just fine WITHOUT your overpaid underperforming pudgy white ass!” So I figure, maybe I should “re-insert” myself and take a swing or two, you know, just until huntin’ season starts…I mean, shoot, I can buy YOUR house with the pay I get for each game, so what the hell…
Just Pat
September 18th, 2009
5:39 pm
Outta here for the whole weekend……GO BRAVES!!!!!!!
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
5:40 pm
AJ Happ – torn intercoastal muscle (whatever that is), No JC Romero, No Chan Ho Park, Madsen can’t close, Lidge can’t close. It’s still ours for the taking.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
5:42 pm
Well I meant more for fighting crime, but thanks…I can never find my keys.
Crime? F that! I’m going to invest in the stock market…
*Checks “Future App”*
Maybe later….
Where is McFann and Soph and Rob from SC??
I miss them!
monty
September 18th, 2009
5:42 pm
If BC had any gumption he’d tell CJ to sit his “you know what” on the bench until he’s good and healed and won’t hurt the team, but NO!!!! Hope he plays well but you just know that groin didn’t heal magically overnight! Good grief! The arrogance! This is why I don’t buy what Chipper said about walking away from the game if he couldn’t be a good player.”Not wanting to hurt the club.” You could have fooled me!
RIP Jimi Hendrix
September 18th, 2009
5:42 pm
40 years today I was lost to the world but the Braves are not done yet !
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
5:45 pm
McFann’s family moved to Bolivia and they have limited internet access. Rob was so distraught over the UGA/USC game last weekend that he’s been in counseling all week.
And Soph, well….I hate to break it to you, but she went skydiving on Tuesday and accidentally brought an umbrella instead of a parachute. It was briefly hilarious before turning tragic.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
5:46 pm
Her last words were
“Tell JJ that —”
Bless her soul.
brian
September 18th, 2009
5:47 pm
I bet the Braves are playing well enough now to give Cox the energy to come back next year for 1 more year. No playoffs but 1 more year of Cox.
Now if the Braves take 2 of 3 from the Phils or sweep them and can gain a game on the Rockies this weekend….
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
5:47 pm
I thought Hendrix died in 1970?
Innocent Bystander
September 18th, 2009
5:49 pm
Dear Braves’ pitching,
PLEASE don’t throw anything to Ryan Howard that would let him get his arms fully extended. Heck, don’t throw him anything that he could swing at and hit.
RIP Jimi Hendrix
September 18th, 2009
5:50 pm
My bad, yes, Sep 18, 1970… oops… err 39 years
Huddy's Ligament
September 18th, 2009
5:50 pm
This series really comes down to one thing: has Donk learned his lesson and will walk Howard?
Or does he have to see the man singlehandedly beat us a few more times before deciding that taking the bat out of his hands is the best strategy?
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
5:50 pm
jeffrey d,
THATS HORRIBLE!!!….
South Carolina totally should have won that game…
So sad, so very sad…
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
5:51 pm
Still, I didn’t realize today was the anniversary of his death. The man was a musical genius. Great voice too
BIG DAWG
September 18th, 2009
5:51 pm
Gaaaaddd
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
5:51 pm
I thought Hendrix died in 1970?
Is that a question or a statement…
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
5:52 pm
And before you get smart, that was a question…
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
5:52 pm
South Carolina totally should have won that game…
No. They shouldn’t have.
Soph's Ghostly Spirit
September 18th, 2009
5:54 pm
Who should I haunt first?
RIP Jimi Hendrix
September 18th, 2009
5:54 pm
Enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIvs4j4IniA
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
5:55 pm
Who should I haunt first?
Norton?
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
5:55 pm
Ryan Howard ranks 3rd in strikeouts this year.
Jayson Werth ranks 5th in strikeouts this year.
Raul Ibanez ranks 8th in strikeouts this year.
Don’t be afraid, we are not playing in their shoebox.
No
September 18th, 2009
5:56 pm
No
Soph's Ghostly Spirit
September 18th, 2009
5:56 pm
Norton?
He’s scarier than me!
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
5:57 pm
I’ll bet Schafer’s still in the top 10
Steve from OH
September 18th, 2009
5:58 pm
I’m glad I took the time to read through all the comments, because scoots’ 4:41 (ish) was hilarious. Tip o’ the cap, sir.
Oh, and I don’t know if it has been noted, but BA named Heyward the Braves’ minor league POY (duh) and Craig Kimbrel pitcher of the year. Christian Bethancourt was their man to keep an eye on.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
5:58 pm
No. They shouldn’t have.
Let me explain the basis of that joke at risk of compromising its hilarity…
You listed three things: 2 tragic, 1 non so much. I wrote, “Thats HORRIBLE!!!…”.
That would leave you to believe I wish to further discuss the tragic events (i. e. McFann moving away, Soph’s skydiving accident). I however, and this is the joke, proceed to talk about the aforementioned College Football game… As such, I need to write a lewd opinion on the game (i. e. “South Carolina totally should have won that game…”)
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks
September 18th, 2009
5:59 pm
Jurrjens4NLCY
Welcome back buddy. You’ve been missed.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
6:01 pm
Oh I gotcha. I thought you were one of the anti-Georgia people (like Lentz) who were rooting for us to lose and got real excited in the first quarter. Sorry for spoiling the joke.
P. W. Hjort
September 18th, 2009
6:01 pm
Two things,
1). Is Gonzalez available?
2). Since he had already admitted to holding out on the training staff when he couldn’t feel the ball coming out of his hand in Colorado, shouldn’t the Braves be keeping a close eye on Gonzalez and not trusting him to tell them when he’s hurt? I suppose they don’t care since he’s a free agent after the season and likely won’t return, but still. I really hope someone gives Bobby and Roger a lesson or two over how to manage a bullpen this off-season. I’m not usually bashing the coaching staff, but this is a pet peeve of mine and the Braves are so bad at it. It’s frustrating.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
6:02 pm
Welcome back buddy. You’ve been missed.
Aww Shucks…
A lot has happened since I’ve left…
The Braves lost postseason hopes
Chipper got injuried
I auditioned for the MEHS’s production of “The Musical Comedy Murders of the 1940s” and made it
The Braves regained postseason hopes
Chipper came back
The Braves lost their postseason hopes (again)
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
6:03 pm
Musical Comedy Murders of the 1940’s?
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
6:04 pm
Sorry for spoiling the joke.
It’s ok…
I couldn’t care less about College Football, or Football in that matter, all I know is Michael Vick is… well, Michael Vick, Falcon we’re good last year and had a good QB, and the Bears suck…
Go Falcons! (BUT WAIT YOUR TURN!)
Soph
September 18th, 2009
6:05 pm
Are we singing again?
wb, JJ. By the way, I got your joke. jeffrey’s been slow this week.
Train Wreck Bystander
September 18th, 2009
6:06 pm
According to ESPN (ref: http://espn.go.com/mlb/standings), our Braves have a 7.4% chance of making the post-season. It was about 3% last Monday. Things are looking up.
GO BRAVES
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
6:06 pm
Musical Comedy Murders of the 1940’s?
Its real, I promise
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Musical_Comedy_Murders_of_1940
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
6:06 pm
Soph! You’re alive!
jeffrey’s been slow this week.
Shut up
NotAgain
September 18th, 2009
6:07 pm
stopped watching the braves on the weekends in favor of College Football so therefore I haven’t had a BF in 2 weeks knowing that the braves are eliminated… Tomahawkin
That’s great news. keep it up.
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
6:07 pm
It’s probably been posted, but the updated lineup with Chipper in (and Prado moves to 2B):
1. McLouth
2. Prado
3. Chipper
4. McCann
5. Escobar
6. Anderson
7. Diaz
8. LaRoche
9. Hudson
Chipper went out early in afternoon, took grounders and ran in outfield, felt good, so he was put in there.
When I asked Bobby about any reluctancy to change lineup when going so well: “He’s ready to go. When Chipper gets hot, he’s been known to carry a team.”
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
6:07 pm
I believed it was real, I just wasn’t sure what it was, since there’s 4 different topics in the title.
dogsbrekky
September 18th, 2009
6:08 pm
Lets crush Happ and get this 7 game winning streak to 8.
I actually hope Huddo is a little tired and gets that sinker working from Inning 1
We have a chance
Soph
September 18th, 2009
6:09 pm
Shut up
My day isn’t complete until you tell me to shut up. It’s become tradition.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
6:09 pm
Soph,
I can tell, I think its about time me and him switched awards…
Jeff321
September 18th, 2009
6:09 pm
I sure hope Quitter Jones hangs ‘em up after this season. I can’t take any more errors or excuses from his defenders!
McFann ;Ô;
September 18th, 2009
6:10 pm
abwright Only thing not “loosey-goosey” …McCann still has to hold down the four spot.
Yeah, dagnabbit…and against J.A. Happ, no less…
faninva Where’s Rally McTurtle?
jeffrey d, Jurrjens4NLCY–
Hi from Bolivia!
NotAgain
September 18th, 2009
6:10 pm
Oh NO! Chipper is back? BALLGAME!!!
McFann ;Ô;
September 18th, 2009
6:10 pm
Oops…thought that arrow was gonna be pointing the other way…
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
6:11 pm
And like day follows night, McFann, Soph, and Rob are all back
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
6:13 pm
Just talked to Heyward at the batting cage. All the Braves’ minor league players of the year from each level (he got the overall award, with Kimbrel the top pitcher) are here, in jackets and ties. Heyward, as we’ve said many times, is almost as impressive in interviews as he is on the field. Very mature.
They’ve got a Venezuelan 3B, Edison Sanchez, who’s about 6-foot-4 and was their DSL player of year. Big kid, hit .283 with a .447 OBP and .900 OPS, four triples, four homers and nine stolen bases in 159 at-bats and 49 games.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
6:14 pm
I believed it was real, I just wasn’t sure what it was, since there’s 4 different topics in the title.
Lol, Its a parody of 1940’s mystery movies, its like “Clue: The Play”
61 year Braves Fan
September 18th, 2009
6:14 pm
Enter your comments here Why doesn’t Atlanta support this team? Especially with the inexpensive
seats and the nice ballpark. In Boston we have an old crummy ballpark with many partially obstructed
seats and the cheapest tickets are about $60 and they have sold out every game for the last 5 years.
Traffic and parking is horrific also (Parking fees near the ballpark are in the $50 range). If I lived near
Atlanta, I would attend many, many games. And by the way, my Patriots tickets cost $169 each.
DAVEinNEPA
September 18th, 2009
6:14 pm
Enter your comments here
As a Braves fan residing in Pa., I see far more of the Phillies than i do the Braves. Phillies starting pitching is just as good recently as the Braves starters have been. Their bullpen while shaky. is still getting it done for the most part. That said, I don’t think the Braves can overhaul the Phils even if they sweep this series. The Phils aren’t the Mets, I don’t think they can play that poorly the next 2 wks to to lose the division. IMO that race is over.
I also don’t believe that the Braves can climb over both Frisco and Colorado to win the WC.
The early season when Cox put 4 or 5 automatic outs in the lineup every night has been what has killed this team. Games you win in April and May are just as important as games you win in September, but our bonehead manager doesn’t seem to agree with the rest of us.
McFann ;Ô;
September 18th, 2009
6:14 pm
Soph! You’re here!
My day isn’t complete until you tell me to shut up. It’s become tradition.
He is so mean to you.
P. W. Hjort
September 18th, 2009
6:15 pm
After reading this: When I asked Bobby about any reluctancy to change lineup when going so well: “He’s ready to go. When Chipper gets hot, he’s been known to carry a team.”
I will be very dissappointed if Chipper has a bad game, but somehow, I think Bobby is right.
McFann ;Ô;
September 18th, 2009
6:16 pm
jeffrey d And like day follows night, McFann, Soph, and Rob are all back
Naturally. I cann tell when I’m needed.
PS–Thanks for the new lineup, Chief.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
6:16 pm
I do like Clue
braves4ever
September 18th, 2009
6:16 pm
good stuff DOB ,tell us more ,thats the baby Braves we have coming
matt
September 18th, 2009
6:16 pm
dang by reading this blog you would think chip is about as good as norton
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
6:17 pm
Hey…I’ve said before that those shut ups are out of endearment.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
6:17 pm
And like day follows night, McFann, Soph, and Rob are all back
MAN! This laptop has given me powers!
ahem..
I say! Where is Chipper Jone’s power production??
southern hope
September 18th, 2009
6:17 pm
I’m a nervous wreck.
hate this.
its like being a Red Sox fan pre 2006….ugh…..
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
6:17 pm
Just asked Lowe about his blister and he said he’s fine and is going to make his start Monday at NY
McFann ;Ô;
September 18th, 2009
6:17 pm
BMac is 1-10 with a double, 2 K’s, and a walk against J.A. Happ.
And the first broadcaster to call him “JAY” Happ is gonna get it from McFang…
Soph
September 18th, 2009
6:18 pm
In the flesh, McFann.
My ghostly spirit was around earlier but she left.
He is so mean to you.
That he is. What can you do? I’m used to it now.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
6:19 pm
And the first broadcaster to call him “JAY” Happ is gonna get it from McFang…
Hope it’s Chip…
Soph
September 18th, 2009
6:19 pm
Clue? The board game? Colonel Mustard in the kitchen with the candlestick.
McFann ;Ô;
September 18th, 2009
6:20 pm
jeffrey d Hey…I’ve said before that those shut ups are out of endearment.
I was only messin’ with ya. Geez, you are slow today.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
6:20 pm
Fine. Next time I want to say shut up I’ll just say something nice about you.
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
6:20 pm
southern hope
September 18th, 2009
6:17 pm
I’m a nervous wreck.
hate this.
its like being a Red Sox fan pre 2006….ugh…..
Fun ain’t it?
Good stuff!
The Real Don Steele
September 18th, 2009
6:20 pm
Current line-up is much weaker than the first one posted. Will we get the steady diet of pop-ups, bouncing grounders, weak fly balls and strikeouts from Chipper or something different? This could signal the end of the winning streak. Should know after the bottom of the first.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
6:21 pm
Clue? The board game? Colonel Mustard in the kitchen with the candlestick.
Your hair looks nice Soph. It was Professor Plum, duh.
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
6:22 pm
Lowe+Mets = DISASTER
But thanks for the info DOB
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
6:22 pm
My goodness, people…we swapped Chipper Jones for Omar Infante. You’re acting like Babe Ruth was pulled for Raf Belliard.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
6:23 pm
Clue? The board game? Colonel Mustard in the kitchen with the candlestick.
HA! Like Colonel Mustard could commit murder with a candlestick at his age, with his arthritis…
Don’t be silly Soph…
McFann ;Ô;
September 18th, 2009
6:23 pm
Soph–
Good!
I saw your spirit…maybe she left to go haunt the Fillies.
That he is. What can you do? I’m used to it now.
Yeah…ya know, just one of those things you have to learn to live with, I guess.
I like the board game “Clue”, too. We have the Disney World Haunted Mansion version, though.
jeffrey d Hope it’s Chip…
I’m sure it will be…
Soph
September 18th, 2009
6:23 pm
Ugh, stick with the shut ups please, jeffrey. And, duh is my word.
McFann ;Ô;
September 18th, 2009
6:24 pm
Your hair looks nice Soph. It was Professor Plum, duh.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
6:25 pm
Speaking of Chip, there’s a good vent about him today…
Does Chip Caray get paid extra for every cliche he uses?
Soph
September 18th, 2009
6:25 pm
Fine, Ms. Scarlett in the study with the rope.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
6:26 pm
And, duh is my word.
I thought it was “by the by”
No wait that’s me…
“Paul Lentz sucks!”?
No, thats jeffrey d’s…
Hmm…
I don’t remember you claiming ownership to “duh.”
Colonel Mustard
September 18th, 2009
6:26 pm
It was a sharp candle ok…
Panties in a wad
September 18th, 2009
6:27 pm
Do not trade Javy
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
6:27 pm
Shut up it is. Just didn’t want any feelings hurt is all.
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
6:27 pm
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
6:27 pm
Fine, Ms. Scarlett in the study with the rope.
You think Ms. Scarlet’s fat ass will fit through those doors!?!?!
I think not!
nolie
September 18th, 2009
6:29 pm
That he is. What can you do? I’m used to it now. (SOPH)
you deserve better!
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
6:30 pm
It was a sharp candle ok…
Oooh sure, and Julia Roberts DOESN’T have lips the size of Baboons behind…
Say what you will about DOBlog, but we have an astonishing ability to get off track…
dogsbrekky
September 18th, 2009
6:30 pm
61 year Brave Fan – sell the Patriots tickets and buy some advance airfares to Atlanta and then you can enjoy our games….. I figure they probably have a $300 special return airfare so with hotel you could come to 1 Braves game for every 3-4 Patriots games…. save freezing your butt off up there in MASS as well
GboroBravo
September 18th, 2009
6:31 pm
DOB what did you think about the opening to The Office last night? Probably the best in a long time?
faninva
September 18th, 2009
6:31 pm
still not sure about changing the lineup with the streak we’re on. god help this blog tonight if chipper comes to the plate with 2 on and 1 out in the ninth with a chance to win the game and he grounds into a double play. this blog will explode.
Soph
September 18th, 2009
6:32 pm
Thank you, nolie.
I miss your fUnNiE poStS nOLie. EsPecialLy tHE oNEz AboOt BoObiE.
nolie
September 18th, 2009
6:33 pm
hereI’m gonna put The Office right up there just behind Mad Men as most overrated show on TV.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
6:34 pm
Soph,
AIM?
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
6:34 pm
Where is the Infamous Paul Lentz…?
Did he get Bozo’d again…?
I will be watching college football all day tomorrow, The UGA/Arkansas game is gonna be good. Bobby Petrino and Arkansas will play UGA tough tomorrow, “Bank On It!”
nolie
September 18th, 2009
6:35 pm
this blog will explode. (faninva)
oh goody, that’s always a lot of fun
faninva
September 18th, 2009
6:35 pm
nolie – what is your most underrated tv show? just curious.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
6:35 pm
hereI’m gonna put The Office right up there just behind Mad Men as most overrated show on TV.
Nope. Definitely not. I think it gets the praise it deserves, not overrated, not underrated…
Soph
September 18th, 2009
6:36 pm
T’Hawkin’s back too. wb.
McFann ;Ô;
September 18th, 2009
6:37 pm
Soph And, duh is my word.
Uh-oh…how much are royalties, then?
Col. Mustard It was a sharp candle ok…
ROTF
!
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
6:38 pm
GboroBravo,
Just watched it. Hilarious.
Soph
September 18th, 2009
6:39 pm
Uh-oh…how much are royalties, then?
Since I like all of you, 25 cents a pop. For jeffrey, $1.00.
nolie
September 18th, 2009
6:39 pm
(faninva)
most left last season. Pushing Daisies, Boston Legal and Life. Brotherhood is still around.but Saving Grace is winding down
the real Andy
September 18th, 2009
6:39 pm
forgive me if this has already been pointed out, but Pedro Martinez has thrown 249 pitches in his last two starts. 249! that’s a lot of pitches for an old man
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
6:41 pm
For jeffrey, $1.00.
Well duuuuuuuuuuh…
nolie
September 18th, 2009
6:41 pm
Nope. Definitely not. I think it gets the praise it deserves, not overrated, not underrated…(JJ)
bah, I don’t ever get more than a chuckle or two per episode. WAYYYY overrated.
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
6:41 pm
Great….it’s on Peachtree TV again which for some odd reason it was dropped from Cox cable’s lineup.
DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
You’d think they’d at least notify somebody.
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
6:43 pm
“I would think either Houston or Texas, since both are hitters’ parks, both in his home state, and the AL has the DH, which might be his (KJ’s) best ‘position.’” DOB
Perhaps he should just go straight to Round Rock and let Momma cook him dinner.
the real Andy
September 18th, 2009
6:44 pm
DOB – didn’t know you listened to the Bonnie Prince. if you’ve never seen him live, do yourself a favor and make it a point to do so. one of the best live performers i’ve ever seen.
Soph
September 18th, 2009
6:44 pm
That sucks Mixxo. Did you call them?
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
6:45 pm
I think 30 Rock is an under-rated show
Johnny Schuerholz
September 18th, 2009
6:46 pm
Too bad about Chipper being in the starting lineup…and Lowe not skipping his turn Monday!.
Bobby and I are going to have a serious talk after the game. I told Chipper he would have to sit until the current winning streak is over or until the regular season ends…whichever came first!
Now look what Bobby has done. Inferior third base defense tonight along with the ‘current’…weakest bat we have…in the 3 hole…again.
Bobby…you have some serious explaining to do, my friend, if this all backfires!!!
BELIEVE
Joe Fan
September 18th, 2009
6:48 pm
Enter your comments here
The real question is, if the Braves play themselves back into this thing will the pressure cause them to fold like a wet sandwich? The Braves claim they are playing this good because the pressure is off. Guess what? Teams that play well under pressure end up winning. Hope their mental makeup has changed. And right when the team has forgotten Chipper he is back in the lineup. Guess Chipper for the good of the team couldn’t stay out a few more games.
guy
September 18th, 2009
6:49 pm
I think it’s too little,too late. What would a productive Chipper Jones and a real slugger have meant to this team? Getting closer though!
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
6:49 pm
I think 30 Rock is an under-rated show
Well Duuuh!
cvbraves
September 18th, 2009
6:50 pm
DOB: In answer to the blog question, I believe the Braves can at least win the wild card. I’ve been a Braves fan since they came to Atlanta, and I have never stopped believing.
While I’d rather see them win than lose, of course, I just love to watch the game.
I want you to know how much I have enjoyed you and Carroll writing the almost daily blogs and articles. Watching baseball and reading the articles on the computer is one thing I can do. I check the AJC site all during the night and day. THANKS.
Despite all the folks on the blog who have a different opinion, I think Bobby Cox has been a great manager and I’ll be sad to see him retire. I appreciate what he has done this year to keep his players in the chase this long.
I also appreciate Chipper putting himself back in the lineup. He can be a difference maker. While he has been having his problems recently, I think the Braves need him during this push. Not saying the Braves can’t get it done without him, just that there’s always the chance he gets hot.
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
6:50 pm
Well no one mention it Jurrjens!
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
6:51 pm
Well no one mention it Jurrjens!
What?
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
6:51 pm
Believe it or not, blue skies over Turner Field … for now, at least.
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
6:51 pm
Soph –
Naw, I tried the other night and just got their automated crap.
Peachtree TV Hurts
September 18th, 2009
6:54 pm
Oh no! Peachtree TV again tonight! It’s the up and down volume thing again all night!
SouthernBelleBrave
September 18th, 2009
6:54 pm
Blue skies…just in time~! Let’s Go Braves!!!!
Extremus
September 18th, 2009
6:54 pm
It’s good to see spirited, relevant talk about a possible Braves playoff run this late in the year again. I remember thinking, probably only two-thirds of the way through their incredible run of divisional dominance, when they seemed to be getting eliminated earlier and earlier in the playoffs each post-season, that maybe in the long run it would be good for the team and its fans to go through a few years of lean times. Not because I was a fair-weather fan, but because I saw an uber-talented ballclub with a model, professional atmosphere who breezed through each regular season, only to be out-hustled and beaten by on-paper lesser teams who simply came out in that series with more passion and fire. I think the fans here sensed that too, so I’m careful before passing judgment on our diminishing crowds then or now.
Well, we’ve had those few years of lean times now, and let’s face it, it hasn’t been fun. Going to the ballpark isn’t quite as nice when the main attractions for fans are visiting superstars who are outshining anybody on your current hometown squad (just ask the Hawks whenever the Lakers, Cavs, or a half-dozen other teams come to town). We got used to excellence and came to take it for granted during the Braves’ big run, and yet we began to criticize them when we saw that window begin to close. Easy to do, I guess; it’s human nature. Smoltz, Glavine, Maddux, Lopez, McGriff, Galarraga, all the rest…they’re all gone now, and while we may only have a single World Championship banner hanging at Turner Field, I would happily state the case for the Braves’ induction into Cooperstown, if there were a place for excellence over a given period by a team as well as individual players. But reality folks, as Bobby Cox once said in an interview, is that playoff baseball more than any other pro sport is a crapshoot; definitely moreso than in the NFL (the 2008 Arizona Cardinals are an aberration, an example of a team that got hot and had a WHOLE LOT go wrong for the other teams facing them last year) and certainly in the NBA, where the more physically talented team almost always wins. Baseball has a 162-game schedule, far more than any other sport, but is a game of inches, of miracles and heartbreaks, and often seemingly random chance which defy the odds; they can come down to a single at-bat (I give you Francisco Cabrera) or mistake (Bill Buckner, anyone?).
So let’s appreciate the success we had with the understanding that the page is about to turn once again. Soon Bobby Cox and Chipper Jones, the last two links to those storied teams, will likely no longer be in the dugout at the Ted. It’s called change; it happens, and is inevitable. But for now, we still have THIS year, and it is still relevant. The math says the Braves have little hope of maintaining their current run of wins and sneaking into the playoffs, but who knows? Maybe this is OUR year to get in by the skin of our teeth, catch a couple of better-on-paper teams napping, and bring home a World Series trophy none of us ever saw coming.
Stranger things have happened, so dust off those tomahawks and let’s party like it’s 1991!
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
6:55 pm
jeffrey d – I think we have had an interesting divergence of opinions today between people making fun of Chipper because he’s a wimp who won’t play when he has the tiniest ailment, and those who hate him for pretending that he’s well enough to play tonight
(to those in the second camp – I am ambivalent on whether he plays tonight – I’ll let you know my official opinion after the game – much easier that way to decide, after I see how he’s done)
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
6:58 pm
No one mentioned 30 Rock as being a good/bad or over/under-rated show…I think its kind of a sleeper show…
Just thought I’d throw it out there…that’s all man
nolie
September 18th, 2009
7:04 pm
No one mentioned 30 Rock as being a good/bad or over/under-rated show…I think its kind of a sleeper show (Nova)
yeah great show. Tina rules!!!
dogsbrekky
September 18th, 2009
7:07 pm
“Mr Blue you’ll get it right, but soon comes Mr Night, creeping over, now his hand is on your shoulder, tell the man I remember you Mr…I remember you Mr Blue Sky”..
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
7:10 pm
30 Rock is the best comedy in many years (of course, that is not as critically important a comment as to which pitcher I think should be jettisoned for next year, but I try to avoid conflict when possible)
nolie
September 18th, 2009
7:12 pm
One might nominate Javy Vazquez for that under-the-radar award in the NL. Only 167 hits allowed to go with a 216-40 strikeout-walk ratio in 197 1/3 innings? Ridiculous. ESPN Stats & Information has Vazquez second to Verlander with 393 swings and misses for the season. If the Braves, as suggested, have to move his contract this winter, he will be one of the most sought-after free agents
Pete Gammons
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
7:12 pm
Pretty funny — the Geico “caveman” is doing the T-shirt shoot thing with the tomahawk girls, walking around the warning track with his full caveman makeup and hair and a Braves jersey.
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
7:13 pm
Just Win
McFann ;Ô;
September 18th, 2009
7:15 pm
Soph Since I like all of you, 25 cents a pop. For jeffrey, $1.00.
Oh good.
LOOGY
September 18th, 2009
7:19 pm
In the words of Jacksonville Jaguars Senior Editor or Jaguars. com, Vic Ketchman…”Just win, baby.”
McFann ;Ô;
September 18th, 2009
7:20 pm
JJ4NLCY Say what you will about DOBlog, but we have an astonishing ability to get off track…
That’s for sure!
But that makes it all the more fun!
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
7:21 pm
My 5 all time favorite comedies:
1. Friends
2. SNL
3. Arrested Development
4. The Office
5. Will and Grace
RHR
September 18th, 2009
7:21 pm
Oh NO! Chipper is back? BALLGAME!!!
Sorry loser, I already called BALLGAME!!! back on page 1 after reading DOB’s blog title and theme of the day.
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
7:21 pm
Hilarious: Medlen just went out to catch the ceremonial first pitch from some rich guy or another, and Medlen did so wearing his My Little Pony backpack, the thing he’s had to wear most of the season.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
7:21 pm
McFann,
Most definitely…
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
7:24 pm
My 5 all time favorite comedies:
1. Friends
I’m gunna leave this one alone
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
7:24 pm
HA, I hope they show a replay of Medlen.
GboroBravo
September 18th, 2009
7:26 pm
Hardcore Parkour!
McFann ;Ô;
September 18th, 2009
7:26 pm
Dang…didn’t know the Reaper was ill. Well this is no fun…
DOB Medlen just went out to catch the ceremonial first pitch…wearing his My Little Pony backpack
JJ4NLCY–
Totally…
RHR
September 18th, 2009
7:26 pm
Just asked Lowe about his blister and he said he’s fine and is going to make his start Monday at NY
BALLGAME!!!
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
7:27 pm
Jurrjens4NLCY, how do you not have Mad TV on that list? Funnier than SNL. Stuart makes me laugh and his mom in that sketch looks, acts and talks juts like my girlfriends mom.
McFann ;Ô;
September 18th, 2009
7:27 pm
TnBrian–
Me, too. They should have a photo of it in the game wrap-up as well.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
7:28 pm
DOB – its been sunny here since shortly after lunch, maybe you’ll stay dry over that way.
Danga
September 18th, 2009
7:29 pm
Calling Ballgame! on a game before the date of the actual game has arrived is akin to calling shotgun before you see the car.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
7:30 pm
FRIENDS OVER SNL? WHAT? Where is Seinfeld? The Chappelle Show? South Park even?
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
7:30 pm
TnBrian,
Thats a joke right? MADtv is like the minor leagues, not a single one of them can do a good impersonation, nor do they have any funny sketches, and if they do… They overkill them.
I have never laughed at an episode of MADtv or The George Lopez show…
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
7:30 pm
Sh*t-tree tv
RHR
September 18th, 2009
7:31 pm
I’m a trendsetter, Danga. Yes, I wear Wolf shirts. My favorite is the wolf with the american flag background.
Danga
September 18th, 2009
7:31 pm
Whoa! Nice shirt Chip.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
7:31 pm
Where is Seinfeld? The Chappelle Show? South Park even?
Seinfeld is 7th, and South Park is 10th, no Chappelle show, although I did like that skit where he was a blind KKK member…
Danga
September 18th, 2009
7:32 pm
RHR…You better believe I saw that one. I have both in my shopping car for next time I decide to order something from Amazon.
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
7:32 pm
MADTV was excellent when Will Sasso was on the show with his Kenny Rogers and Steven Segal performances.
Not to mention Aries Spears, Mike MacDonald,
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
7:33 pm
What kind of crowd tonight?
McFann ;Ô;
September 18th, 2009
7:35 pm
I like Hogan’s Heroes and Leave It To Beaver, but that’s another story…
bravesgirlnc
September 18th, 2009
7:35 pm
What was with the golf balls they were hitting? Do they do that before every game?
Jeff321
September 18th, 2009
7:37 pm
Hmmm
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
7:37 pm
No Victorino…Good for Braves
nfieldr
September 18th, 2009
7:38 pm
jeffrey d… may be a little over reaction to Chipper being in the lineup, but not completely. You know that Chipper has been a routine out regularly for the past 2+ months. Again, not to say that he won’t go 4 for 4 tonight, but honestly, I’d be really surprised. As for defense, if you’ve watched any of the recent games, I think that you’d have to agree that we lose nothing with Prado at 3B, and maybe gain a little. Just my $.02… YMMV
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
7:38 pm
Nice Mac REAL nice!
I’ve had it with your D!!
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
7:38 pm
MADTV was excellent when Will Sasso was on the show with his Kenny Rogers and Steven Segal performances.
Not to mention Aries Spears, Mike MacDonald,
Yea, whatever.
Chevy Chase
John Belushi
Dan Akroyd
Steve Martin
Eddie Murphy
Will Ferral
Molly Shannon
Amy Poehler
Tina Fey
And the list goes on and on…
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
7:39 pm
OMG
There’s no one at the park tonight – Are you kidding me???
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
7:39 pm
Hmm…that was embarrassing.
I think I hear Paul L coming.
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
7:40 pm
Soph –
It’s on!
Just not listed on their on-screen guide. Talked to a Cox guy (in Cleveland)….he didn’t have a clue.
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
7:40 pm
Mixxo–
Really? You don’t like his D? Why don’t you tell people that?
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
7:40 pm
atta boy Timmy
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
7:41 pm
Huddy bails out Mac……phew!
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
7:41 pm
Wheres Soph, she is supposed to be back!
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
7:41 pm
What would you do for a Klondike Bar?
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
7:41 pm
Chip did it! “JAY” Happ…here comes McFang…
cricket
September 18th, 2009
7:41 pm
Anyone else having problem with MLB Extra Innings? Picture’s all screwed up though other games look ok.
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
7:41 pm
nfieldr: I agree on Prado’s defense at 3rd. Dude is solid over there, really is.
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
7:42 pm
Way to go, Huddy (this in no way implies an endorsement of which pitcher to jettison)!
richbrave
September 18th, 2009
7:42 pm
Enter your comments here. Come on MARTIN, HR.
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
7:43 pm
McFann :Ô: -
C’mon…the ball almost hit him on top of his coconut for cryin’ out loud.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
7:43 pm
Lets keep this in mind: The Phillies have not seen Hudson for over a year…
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
7:43 pm
Joe: “Adam LaRoche with 25 home runs batting eighth…gotta love that.”
Jeff321
September 18th, 2009
7:43 pm
Clout gets caught slipping…
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
7:44 pm
So I guess in Nova Scotia, MadTV was funnier than SNL down through the years, huh? OK.
By the way, how can anyone put Friends and Arrested Development on the same top-comedies list, and actually have Friends ahead of it? You’re serious about that list? Friends No. 1?
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
7:44 pm
Mixxo–
I know. I saw the d…arn play.
kirkinga
September 18th, 2009
7:44 pm
Hmm…that was embarrassing.
I think I hear Paul L coming.
McFann at least it wasn’t as bad as Kelly Johnson’s famous misplay.
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
7:46 pm
No no DOB….I’m just sayin MADTV had its moments and some good ones.
SNL blows it out of the water….or past tense blew it out of the water.
GboroBravo
September 18th, 2009
7:47 pm
Did anyone watch Community last night? Any good?
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
7:47 pm
I don’t care for either show right now
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
7:47 pm
Fairchild’s a Phillies fan?
C’mon dude!
Brandon from Warner Robins
September 18th, 2009
7:47 pm
Good swing from Chipper.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
7:49 pm
DOB,
Yes. I have Friends and SNL over AD…
cricket
September 18th, 2009
7:49 pm
Must be specific age group thing with the guy listing Friends no. 1 comedy, like 13 yr old girls nominating Miley whatshername no. 1 singer. There can’t be any other explanation.
Damn, MLB Extra all games except this one look ok. This game has become audio only, which is a really horrible considering the guys commenting.
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
7:50 pm
Boo-yah!!
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
7:50 pm
Good job Chipper on the hit – unless of course you screw up after this, in which case you are so worthless!
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
7:50 pm
jeffrey d,
I was right!
My laptop had powers!!
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
7:50 pm
Seinfeld or Family Guy is at the top of the list for me
VaBraveFan
September 18th, 2009
7:51 pm
There u go Chip and Mac
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
7:51 pm
kirkinga–
Yeah…but it was weird. Just completely lost it…he was wearing his specs, too. Maybe he shoulda taken his mask off…?
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
7:51 pm
Blazing speed on the base-paths here
cricket
September 18th, 2009
7:52 pm
Great, now the audio is also gone
VaBraveFan
September 18th, 2009
7:53 pm
Wow Roachy is the best number 8 hitter in the MLB….. why is he hitting 8th ??????
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
7:53 pm
ugh
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
7:53 pm
Seinfeld was a show about Jerry’s standup… Eh. I have respect it. Its one of the most viewed shows in TV history, just like Friends…
GOD, I hate Chips voice!!
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
7:54 pm
Seinfeld was a show based on Larry David’s life I believe….or “loosely” based anyway
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
7:54 pm
JJNLCY – Friends – pleasant and sometimes enjoyable – Arrested Development hys-flippin’-terical
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
7:55 pm
Braves game. Lets not talk about TV shows… C’ mon Esco!
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
7:56 pm
This is the ONLY time you slide to first…
richbrave
September 18th, 2009
7:56 pm
Enter your comments here. You can do it, all night long!
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
7:56 pm
Jurrjens4NLCY, oh please, when I watch SNL today it’s torcher. I like Will Ferrell, Sandler, Farley, but the cast now just doesn’t tickle my funny bone. And there’s not ONE MadTV sketch you’ve ever laughed at? You ain’t human, son.
bravesgrl4life
September 18th, 2009
7:57 pm
Hello, Braves Fans, I missed you guys last night. Was at the America’s Toughest concert and game was long over by the time I got home.
Beautiful win last night (got to watch reply aon SS today).
And that was a great K thrown by Huddy to get Howard
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
7:57 pm
Great hustle, Yunel!
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
7:57 pm
We offer this public service for those fans of tennis star Melanie Oudin: If you’re coming to the game tomorrow, she’s throwing out the first pitch, and before she does, the 17-year-old from Marietta will be signing autographs in the Fan Plaza from 5:30 p.m. to 6:30 p.m.
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
7:57 pm
What the hell is up with Yunel these days?
What a terrible at-bat. Very un-Yunel like.
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
7:58 pm
Jurrjens – mind can’t operate on multiple levels, after you prolonged the discussion?
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
7:59 pm
TnBrian,
MadTV isn’t funny now, and it never has been, SNL still has weekend update, and thats always hilarious…
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
8:00 pm
Oh, and Oudin is also planning to go on the field with the Tomahawk Team girls and hit autographed tennis balls into the crowd, at about 6:45.
Alright, that’s all.
As the Clash might say, “This is a public service announcement … with guitars!” Only there were no guitars. And it’s over.
Jeff321
September 18th, 2009
8:00 pm
In Living Color was very funny.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
8:01 pm
I hate those double pits to chesty commercials…
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
8:02 pm
Jurrjens4NLCY, yes it was. I don’t know what it is now but they had some very funny sketches on there. Like I said, I used to love SNL through the 90’s, but it turned to garbage these last few years.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
8:03 pm
I also hate how Ruiz doesn’t squat…
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
8:03 pm
Whatever became of Marietta Derek, speaking of DPTC?
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
8:03 pm
Matt E!!!!!
DiamondbackMac
September 18th, 2009
8:04 pm
VaBraveFan
LaRoche is in the 2nd clean-up spot.
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
8:04 pm
Jeff321, In Living Color was funnier than SNL and MadTV. Alright, I’ll stop. But that show was fu**** awesome!
bravesgrl4life
September 18th, 2009
8:04 pm
Matty D
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
8:04 pm
Matty rules!!
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
8:04 pm
I hate to say this but, where is everybody?
There we go Matt.
Come on Adam. Just have to get some runs for Huddy for crying out loud.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Get it?
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
8:05 pm
What a waste.
Come on Tim.
Jeff321
September 18th, 2009
8:05 pm
AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
Ross
September 18th, 2009
8:06 pm
When the Braves lose this game because of that loafing aging bum Jones, I hope someone in Atlanta will have the balls to call a fade a fade. I am disgusted to see him in the lineup!
-drl
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
8:06 pm
Ugh, right in the nuts…
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
8:06 pm
OK, I hate that ump.
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
8:06 pm
Apparently Snitker does not always hold the runner
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
8:07 pm
Our team “speed”………on display.
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks
September 18th, 2009
8:07 pm
didn’t think that would be close, but it was
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
8:07 pm
DANGIT!! He looked safe to me! But, huh, what do I know?
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
8:07 pm
Infante has replaced Escobar.
They had the lineup back together for, oh, an inning.
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
8:07 pm
GF***ingD it!
WTF!
Brandon from Warner Robins
September 18th, 2009
8:08 pm
Escobar’s been pulled…..again.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
8:08 pm
WTF??! HELL NO
RHR
September 18th, 2009
8:08 pm
That pisses me the EFF off!
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks
September 18th, 2009
8:09 pm
I have a feeling that this is going to be a stressful game.
Why is Escobar out. Is Cox F****** with him again. His hip still hurts he can’t run full speed.
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
8:09 pm
I feel a “ballgame” coming soon. This is going from bad to worse in a hurry.
Now Esco’s out.
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
8:09 pm
What’s wrong with Escobar?
Ross
September 18th, 2009
8:09 pm
I’d bench those loafers for a month and fine them too – there are two rules in baseball – keep it in front of you, and run it out. I don’t mind losing but lack of effort is maddening. P*ss on Escobar.
-drl
CameronC
September 18th, 2009
8:09 pm
Reds up 1-0 on the Marlins
Jeff321
September 18th, 2009
8:10 pm
Well, Yunel is out of the game so I’m bailing. See ya!
Danga
September 18th, 2009
8:10 pm
Let it out, Ross. Let it out.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
8:10 pm
Yeah, because if Esco gets on, Garrets weak ground out to 2nd would have scored SO many runs…
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks
September 18th, 2009
8:11 pm
like Chipper ever tries to beat out a ground ball
Marc from FL
September 18th, 2009
8:11 pm
I understand benching Esco for not hustling on that play, but don’t know if I’d do it mid-game, considering he is the only consistant hitter on our entire team and we’re trying to be Happ tonight.
nycbravesfan
September 18th, 2009
8:11 pm
bobby has lost it !! y did he pull escobar. oh my god its sabotage
Ross
September 18th, 2009
8:11 pm
Prado and Diaz come to play, EVERY DAY.
-drl
Robert
September 18th, 2009
8:11 pm
Punishing Escobar for that is a real DONK move. Way to hurt our team; groundball pitcher out there and Infante being the king of suck defensively at SS.
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
8:12 pm
Judging from Yunel’s sour face in the dugout, Cox sat him the corner again.
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks
September 18th, 2009
8:12 pm
This does it. I hate Bobby Cox. Next time Chipper strolls to first bench his ass
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
8:12 pm
Bobby, I take it all back.
You are a genius. Yeah, take him out for not running hard on a ball hit to the second baseman.
Brilliant.
How about Adam not even advancing the runner. WTF.
THIS IS WHY NOBODY GOES TO TURNER FIELD!
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
8:12 pm
ATL – “We Know Drama”
Kelly's Johnson
September 18th, 2009
8:12 pm
Just got in…am I to assume Esco pulled another…well….”Esco” ??
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
8:13 pm
OK Nate, you’re turn to come up lame.
Scott
September 18th, 2009
8:13 pm
Prado……come to play, EVERY DAY.
But has Prado come to play since the All Star break? His numbers post-break are disgusting.
mitch
September 18th, 2009
8:13 pm
*(@^&#!&(@$ Bobby Cox, And I mean it from the bottom of my heart.
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
8:13 pm
Jeff321 See ya!
Bye! Don’t bump your head on the way out, there.
Ross
September 18th, 2009
8:13 pm
Anyone see the other Chip’s shirt? Put a hurt on my eyeballs.
-drl
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
8:14 pm
I swear if Bobby had his way Yunel would be traded and Infante would take over at SS full time. He doesn’t like him, plain and simple.
curtis jones
September 18th, 2009
8:14 pm
Chipper in the 3-hole, LaRoche batting 8th. That’s a HOF manager there, folks.
BT
September 18th, 2009
8:14 pm
Even Loaf runs hard to first. Escobar needs to get it through his head and Bobby is old school.
Scott
September 18th, 2009
8:14 pm
This does it. I hate Bobby Cox. Next time Chipper strolls to first bench his ass
Yeah seriously, how many times to Chipper Jones jog slowly to first on a tap out to second?
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks
September 18th, 2009
8:14 pm
Bobby just treats Escobar differently than his “boys”.
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
8:15 pm
The week-end Andruw was confused/upset/hurt/somber about being claimed on waivers, he lolly-gagged for 3 days in Cincy . . . then, his offense began a slow, putrid decline that continued well beyond his days in Atlanta.
The dude never saw the bench until Bobby sat him his last 3 games in a Braves uni (@ Houston), right after the Braves were eliminated from the NL East race.
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
8:15 pm
“I’d bench those loafers for a month and fine them too – there are two rules in baseball – keep it in front of you, and run it out. I don’t mind losing but lack of effort is maddening. P*ss on Escobar.”
Yeah because no one else in the league or in this lineup fails to bust it every now and then. I’m not saying Esco was right, but he is probably one of only almost the majority of the league who doesn’t run hard all the time. The reason its mentioned about Diaz so much is because honestly, he seems to be the only guy on this team to do it all the time. Not the time when your team is on a roll to decide to bench the guy now. 1st mistake since June. I question the move if it is for that and not injury.
nycbravesfan
September 18th, 2009
8:15 pm
y doesnt he pull mccann for not pulling his mask off on that foul ball… …
he should have left escobar in.. this is not the time to teach a lesson….
Marc from FL
September 18th, 2009
8:15 pm
Scott, point about Prado and Diaz is they hussle every play, something Esco needs to learn to do. I like him and root for him, but he has to hold his end of the bargain and be a professional ot make professional money.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
8:15 pm
Seriously. Bobby doesn’t care if they win or lose tonight. Dont’ give me the “he’s trying to teach him something more important than this one game” speech. That is BS and you know it.
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks
September 18th, 2009
8:15 pm
Scott
September 18th, 2009
8:14 pm
This does it. I hate Bobby Cox. Next time Chipper strolls to first bench his ass
Yeah seriously, how many times to Chipper Jones jog slowly to first on a tap out to second?
every single time
VaBraveFan
September 18th, 2009
8:15 pm
Yunel has been getting his hits but he’s cooled down with RISP it seems like he been in the 60s for Rbi’s for over a month.
YUNIFAN
September 18th, 2009
8:15 pm
OMG…like Anderson NEVER hustles…and Bobby talks about how wonderful he is…24/7
Ross
September 18th, 2009
8:15 pm
Escobar doesn’t do himself any favors trying to be Escy Ramirez.
-drl
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
8:15 pm
Please no Moyer! Please no Moyer!!!
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
8:16 pm
Not entirely clear yet whether he pulled Escobar for not running out of the box hard, or if he didn’t run out of box because he was hurting and that’s why he came out. But I haven’t seen trainers tending to him on the bench, for what that’s worth.
curtis jones
September 18th, 2009
8:16 pm
Somebody with the AJC please, please get Melanie Oudin and Nate McLouth together for a photo. Brother and sister.
YE19
September 18th, 2009
8:16 pm
80% of players would not have sprinted to first on that YUNEl groundout. God knows CHIPPER NEVER runs those out, yet Bobby never gets on him? That’s total BS, and Cox has lost his freakin mind. Pull Yunel in a playoff race to punish him for something that only he gets punished for? Perhaps if Cox hadn’t cost the Braves two games against the Red Sox by playing DIORY Hernadez over Esco after the official scoring incident, then the WC lead would be less than 4.5 games on Sep 18th.
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
8:16 pm
No ill-will; but, it would be great to start hacking away at this bullpen early this week-end
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks
September 18th, 2009
8:16 pm
Escobar has a bad hip pointer. It won’t heal until the offseason. Cut him some slack
lexbrave
September 18th, 2009
8:17 pm
my assumption is that escobar isn’t hurt but was taken out for not hustling down the line in his first ab?
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
8:17 pm
PLEASE NO MOYER!!! PLEASE NO MOYER!!!!
Braves Paisan
September 18th, 2009
8:17 pm
Good evening, Braves Beat Blog Denizens:
Judy and I have tickets to the game tomorrow, and we are looking forward to seeing young Ms Oudin.
Whatever is going on with Yunie, Bobby will get through to him … eventually, perhaps. But I feel his glove and timely hitting makes him our team MVP, and he has too much talent (especially relative to cost) to let go.
Marc from FL
September 18th, 2009
8:17 pm
DOB makes a good point, we may be jumping the gun here, he may just be hurt
Kelly's Johnson
September 18th, 2009
8:18 pm
Not a Cox fan but….I don’t think it’s TOO hard to figure out why he doesn’t care for Esco’s style of play…I’d hate to have to put with him all year long myself
Marc from FL
September 18th, 2009
8:18 pm
Glad I left Prado on my fantasy team, lol
bravesgrl4life
September 18th, 2009
8:18 pm
PRADOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bravesgirlnc
September 18th, 2009
8:18 pm
PRAAADOOOOOO
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
8:18 pm
WOOOOOO! Told ya the other night that Prado is back.
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
8:18 pm
Yay!
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks
September 18th, 2009
8:18 pm
even my wife said Cox has favorites
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
8:18 pm
“Gone, Baby, Gone,” – Chip
That needs to stop…but awesome knock for Prado!
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
8:18 pm
Based on his past few games, I’d say Prado is over the “exertion headaches.”
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
8:18 pm
WHEW!! NO MOYER!!! AND A PRADO HR!
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
8:19 pm
I have no idea why Escobar came out, but if it is because he could not care enough about this game to hustle to first, than obviously Bobby is a moron for allowing such a thing to happen
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks
September 18th, 2009
8:19 pm
as I am saying is if Cox says its him or Escobar, Wren better keep Escobar
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
8:19 pm
DOB,
Jim Powell said that Escobar was sitting on the bench, with a towel over his head, and was mouthing, “no, no, no!”
(not sure if that was in English or Spanish)
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
8:20 pm
Weak looking swing
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
8:20 pm
C’mon Gimpper!!
Marc from FL
September 18th, 2009
8:20 pm
How do you not bat Diaz in the 4th hole against this guy?
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks and Bobby Cox has it out for Escobar
September 18th, 2009
8:21 pm
bench McCann, he was not sprinting
richbrave
September 18th, 2009
8:21 pm
Enter your comments here, Boo-yah!!!! I called it and just one AB late too. Go MARTIN.
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
8:21 pm
“point about Prado and Diaz is they hussle every play, something Esco needs to learn to do. I like him and root for him, but he has to hold his end of the bargain and be a professional ot make professional money.”
Well Marc I suggest you hold that standard to all players because if you watched this game or our team you would realize probably the only guy that hustles 100 percent of the time is Diaz. Don’t mind the message just make sure you are preaching it to everyone. Could be that he’s injured though and that why he didn’t run hard, I don’t know.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
8:21 pm
J A Happ looks like he is 13 asking out a girl for the first time every time a Braves guy swings…
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
8:21 pm
What the DEVIL was that???
Mr. Enigma
September 18th, 2009
8:21 pm
Escobar’s hip started barking again. Nothing to do with benching.
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
8:22 pm
Marc How do you not bat Diaz in the 4th hole against this guy?
How do you not bat Diaz fourth against any lefty?
The 8th wonder of the world…
RHR
September 18th, 2009
8:23 pm
Just got in…am I to assume Esco pulled another…well….”Esco” ??
Wrong. Looked to be a routine out at 1st, Yunel ran down the line at the same speed everyone not named Matt Diaz does, the throw was high, Yunel woulda been safe if he had ran harder. Next batter gets out to end the inning anyway. It was a real difference maker, I tell ya.
I hope the reason he’s out is because he’s hurting..well, I don’t want him hurt but YKWIM, but the thing is, DOB and the tv/radio guys usually have word on it by now if a guy comes out with an injury…
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
8:23 pm
QUESTION:
If Chipper wasn’t in the lineup yesterday, why didn’t Nate bat 3rd?
I know that only reason he isn’t batting third is because of Chipper’s pride…. So?
What the hell?
Marc from FL
September 18th, 2009
8:23 pm
Jake,
I do hold that standard to all players, but I can’t make Bobby sit them, lol, I would be saying the same thing if Chipper or Laroche or any of them were sat for no hustling. And if Esco can’t run then he should be on the bench anyways.
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
8:23 pm
Where is the lack of effort?
I don’t recall Bobby sitting Andruw the last three years in Atlanta for not even running out balls hit to the third base corner.
Maybe if it was me at second base he would have a reason to run it out but last time I checked I never won an MVP or Gold Glove award or a single All Star selection. Utley had about a 20 foot throw.
Of course, Chipper gets to take it “EASY” but one our best hitters… and fielders… got taken out for not lunging to first base. Yeah, cause we want that to happen again.
Give me a mother f***ing break. Bobby Cox. You are an idiot.
Why not just replace him with Greg Norton while your at it?
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks and Bobby Cox has it out for Escobar
September 18th, 2009
8:24 pm
I am white so I am not being racist. Has cox ever benched a white player
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks and Bobby Cox has it out for Escobar
September 18th, 2009
8:25 pm
chipper didn’t go 1st to 3rd on Diaz’s hit. He is hurt, well Esco has a bad hip
Marc from FL
September 18th, 2009
8:25 pm
I think Bobby sat Jack Wilson once, lol
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
8:26 pm
I thought if it hit the ground its a dead ball, thus, foul….
Say McCann gets a pitch that hits the dirt and hits a walk off HR, would that count?
Real House Wives of Atlanta
September 18th, 2009
8:26 pm
Welcome to Atlanta !!
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
8:26 pm
RHR – no way that was normal speed – he was barely moving, unless he has a broken leg
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
8:27 pm
Nice play, Matty!
pryguy
September 18th, 2009
8:27 pm
Kinda hope Bobby pulled Esco because he was sore afterward….otherwise, I feel as though it’s not a good decision to make a point to Esco in such a crucial game/series.
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
8:27 pm
Hey, he caught that one.
What’ya know?
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
8:28 pm
OK, I give up offering advice on how to pitch to Howard — don’t pitch to him being the advice.
bravesgrl4life
September 18th, 2009
8:28 pm
Damn.
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks and Bobby Cox has it out for Escobar
September 18th, 2009
8:28 pm
has Howard hit a HR against our entire rotation
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
8:29 pm
there it is……..ballgame.
we’ll never learn!
nycbravesfan
September 18th, 2009
8:29 pm
walk him!!!
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
8:29 pm
You don’t say it though Marc. I haven’t heard anyone on here complaining about someone not busting it down the line lately when it happens every night on this team. I’ll say it once again, Diaz is the only one who does it all the time. Esco has injuries too, the end of the year, guy has a bad hip, Chipper is hurt, Church has a bad back. If any of these guys were in the game and didn’t bust it its because being in the lineup is more important that trying to beat out an easy groundout at this point of the season. Some of you guys don’t think about that. Its just that the guy is lazy or this and that.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
8:29 pm
Unbelievable that they forget that Ryan Howard owns their asses.
pryguy
September 18th, 2009
8:29 pm
ugh, this is why the phils can win games they don’t deserve to. just hit bombs. We’ve outhit and outpitched them to this point.
lexbrave
September 18th, 2009
8:29 pm
man i hate howard..
Roman Gal
September 18th, 2009
8:29 pm
I’m so glad they decided to pitch to Howard.
Who here remembers that 2 homer game Howard had against Hudson a few years ago?
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
8:29 pm
He almost hit that ball onto the concourse in front of the restaurant. It was CRUSHED.
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
8:30 pm
go get him bobby!
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
8:30 pm
It’s like Peter Gammons said about the Mets pitchers in regards to Chipper Jones back in 1999 . . .
“Why pitch to him?”
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
8:30 pm
I think that’s what you call losing momentum.
Good thing we still got Norton on the bench.
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
8:30 pm
JJ4NLCY Say McCann gets a pitch that hits the dirt and hits a walk off HR, would that count?
Haha…no. They don’t let those kinds of things go for him, only against him. Like all those ROEs he has? Think a few of those could have been hits/RBI.
AndyC
September 18th, 2009
8:31 pm
DOB
Please don’t bury us with Howard stats. We know he’s good and he destroys the Braves. Nuff said.
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
8:31 pm
The ball looked to be a straight fastball in the middle of the plate. Why our pitchers insist on putting it on a tee for this guy. D Lowe seems to be the only guy who knows how to consistently get this guy out.
rico carty
September 18th, 2009
8:31 pm
What was that? Why pitch to Ryan Howard?
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
8:31 pm
I can’t believe this…I really really can’t.
Let’s keep pitching to Ryan Howard….Yeah there’s a good idea….
And you know who fault this is…reminds me of the same situation with Carlos Beltran with Houston.
Wonder who was callin the shots then…the same old fool that still here
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks and Bobby Cox has it out for Escobar
September 18th, 2009
8:31 pm
Escobar is going to ask to be traded I have a feeling. Frank Wren needs to tell old man Cox to get off his back
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
8:32 pm
I’m white, so this is racist:
I HATE RYAN HOWARD!!
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
8:32 pm
It’s early. Howard’s got at least another bomb in him tonight.
since57
September 18th, 2009
8:32 pm
Enter your comments here
Really just want to know, is it pride, ego or stupidity that keeps us pitching to Howard???????
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
8:32 pm
But just for the record, Timmy missed his spot with that pitch to Howard. BMac wanted it down. So there.
Mr. Enigma
September 18th, 2009
8:32 pm
It’s never over with that disaster of a bullpen Philly has.
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
8:32 pm
Jim Powell: “I would vote to walk Howard every time he bats all week-end.”
Don Sutton: “I think more than one MANAGER would agree with you!”
RHR
September 18th, 2009
8:32 pm
I mean, whats so hard? Do they think they’re gonna be the one braves pitcher Howard doesn’t go yard on? Is the ego more important than the ballgame? What else could it be? Please ask McCann what he thinks when he sees Howard step in.
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
8:33 pm
Is Mac to blame for ANY of this? My God, how many times do you have to me reminded to bury the damn ball at his feet, then go away,away,away until he K’s or takes the walk.
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks and Bobby Cox has it out for Escobar
September 18th, 2009
8:33 pm
can we at least back Howard off the plate
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
Are you busting my balls?
Innocent Bystander
September 18th, 2009
8:33 pm
New Standing Rule:
Unless the bases are loaded, walk Ryan Howard.
On second thought…
Under any and all circumstances, walk Ryan Howard.
Braves Paisan
September 18th, 2009
8:34 pm
If you adjust Slugging Percentage for Player Weight, I bet Chase Utley beats Howard easily.
Marc from FL
September 18th, 2009
8:34 pm
Jake,
What the hell are you talking about? Diaz runs harder down the line than anyone on this team, what are you smoking?
And I’m not going to complain on the blog everytime someone jogs down the line – my fingers would fall off in a week’s time.
My statement is that Escobar was wrong to not hussle, not that he’s the only one on the team that doesn’t hussle. Bobby picks on Esco more than anyone, that doesn’t make their lack of hussle any more acceptable, and doesn’t make Esco’s lack of hussle anymore acceptable. His injury can’t be that bad cause he floors it just fine when he wants to.
Prado and Diaz are the only two I know of that haul ass down the line every play. If you don’t agree with me you can be like 99.9% of the rest of the world and be wrong!
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
8:34 pm
We can talk about slow starts, 5 game losing streaks, poor managerial decisions, Derek Lowe’s blisters, etc., but what may end up costing this team a play-off spot, is the continual decision to throw fat pitches to Ryan Howard.
It’s like Peter Gammons said about the Mets’ pitchers in regards to Chipper Jones in 1999,
“Why pitch to him?”
Braves Paisan
September 18th, 2009
8:35 pm
They just showed the replay. Yunie jaked it.
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks and Bobby Cox has it out for Escobar
September 18th, 2009
8:35 pm
Esco looked hurt. Loaf justed loafed
Everyone but the people wearing a Braves uniform
September 18th, 2009
8:35 pm
Who here remembers that 2 homer game Howard had against Hudson a few years ago?
Who here remembers all the homers Howard hit against everyone in that series a few weeks ago?
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
8:35 pm
Now Kyle Kendrick suddenly turns into Cy Young
ncscoots
September 18th, 2009
8:35 pm
Nah, the Braves don’t need a masher such as Howard in the middle of the order. Nope, huh-uh, nossir.
YUNIFAN
September 18th, 2009
8:35 pm
right there….Garrett didn’t run any harder than Yunel did…
PULL ANDERSON
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
8:36 pm
This game is far from over, but I still don’t understand why they still pitch to howard…
lexbrave
September 18th, 2009
8:36 pm
pretty amazing how the phillies can lead the league in runs and only have 3 guys in the lineup with better than a .270 average.. (the braves’ entire lineup tonight is hitting .270 or better) oh thats right they score all of their runs off homers.
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
8:36 pm
TnBrian how many times do you have to me reminded to bury the damn ball at his feet, then go away,away,away until he K’s or takes the walk.
He wanted it away…but Timmy didn’t throw it to the right spot. Sheesh…
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks and Bobby Cox has it out for Escobar
September 18th, 2009
8:36 pm
way to go Cox. Hit our hottest hitter 6th.
AndyC
September 18th, 2009
8:36 pm
That was a pretty lazy play by Yunel and maybe he does beat it if he runs hard down the line but, I don’t know if that was the best time to teach him a lesson. The Braves can’t afford to lose many more games and they need Yunel in the game.
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
8:36 pm
Come on Braves.
You can’t let Kendrick shut this one down.
This guy makes Manny Acosta look like The Most Interesting Man in the World in the confidence department.
Danga
September 18th, 2009
8:36 pm
Yunifan…That is as fast as he gets.
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
8:37 pm
It certainly does appear that Yunel was replaced for not hustling to first base on that groundout. No announcement of any injury, and replay on Peachtree TV had the audio of Cox yelling “Hey” when he saw the throw was going to be a wide and Yunel wasn’t running hard.
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks and Bobby Cox has it out for Escobar
September 18th, 2009
8:37 pm
I have a feeling that Frank Wren knows that Escobar is more important to the future of the Braves than Cox.
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
8:37 pm
JJ4NLCY but I still don’t understand why they still pitch to howard…
I SAID…
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
8:37 pm
I hate when the 8th place hitter comes to the plate… oh, nevermind, this hitter leads the team in homers. Only on a Bobby Cox team…
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
8:37 pm
I love Matty D’s offense, but I dislike his defense….
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks and Bobby Cox has it out for Escobar
September 18th, 2009
8:38 pm
2 best hitters are 7th and 8th
genius
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
8:38 pm
Matt, where does he have to hit it for you to score this time?
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
8:38 pm
LaRoche ain’t getting squat!
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
8:38 pm
Happ removed for “precautionary reasons,” whatever the h that means. We’ll let you know when hear anything
Kelly's Johnson
September 18th, 2009
8:38 pm
OK…now I’ve seen the Esco “play”….lol….WHAT a tool !!…..Take up for that all you want but….that Dude needs to tighten up….Kind of an important game tonight to pull that kinda stuff…
PS: I DON’T like Cox but….sheesh…that crap has GOT to stop….
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
September 18th, 2009
8:39 pm
Why in hell is LaRoche batting 8th. Can someone with some reasoning please explain this to me????
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
8:39 pm
away, away away?
I thought the key to Howard was to bust him tight, so he can’t get his arms extended?
Utley’s the one to pitch away, right?
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
8:39 pm
Well, at least we’ll clear the 9 spot.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
8:40 pm
Babe Hudson! I love it!
lexbrave
September 18th, 2009
8:40 pm
what’s the deal with happ? if he’s hurt he probably just removed himself from rookie of the year consideration.
Roman Gal
September 18th, 2009
8:40 pm
Who here remembers all the homers Howard hit against everyone in that series a few weeks ago?
Good point, Everyone but the people wearing a Braves uniform.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
8:40 pm
Rob from SC,
Happ was pitching, I think thats why….
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
8:42 pm
The Braves seriously have to have the most hits with runners in scoring position without scoring a run this year.
We can get shutout for two games and then the first time we get a hit with a runner at second it’s a bullet to the right fielder.
Or in Tim Hudson’s case, the left fielder.
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
8:42 pm
brent a., WAAAY away to Howard. He does have damn near 200 K’s again this year, so he’s prone to chase some bad pitches.
Roman Gal
September 18th, 2009
8:43 pm
A lot of my schoolmates are at this game. I wonder where they’re sitting…
Danga
September 18th, 2009
8:43 pm
Team speed is definitely not one of the strengths of this team.
nycbravesfan
September 18th, 2009
8:44 pm
Cox needs to be held more accountable… i would love for someone to grill him about that decision in the post game.. i mean seriously.. 3 wks in the season and your still trying to teach lessons…
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
8:45 pm
3B coach getting a little something something on the side….
RHR
September 18th, 2009
8:45 pm
J4NLCY but I still don’t understand why they still pitch to howard…
Every single pitcher misses their spot every single time, don’t you get it?
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
8:45 pm
Ok, lets break this last post down from you Marc, 1st you said:
“What the hell are you talking about? Diaz runs harder down the line than anyone on this team, what are you smoking?”
I could have swore I said that but silly me, over estimating some of our bloggers reading skills. Next statement:
“And I’m not going to complain on the blog everytime someone jogs down the line – my fingers would fall off in a week’s time. ”
Yet you feel the need to do it for Esco, I wonder why? What makes him different Marc if so many others do it? Next Part:
“My statement is that Escobar was wrong to not hussle, not that he’s the only one on the team that doesn’t hussle. Bobby picks on Esco more than anyone, that doesn’t make their lack of hussle any more acceptable, and doesn’t make Esco’s lack of hussle anymore acceptable. His injury can’t be that bad cause he floors it just fine when he wants to.”
Sounds a little hypocrytical to me Marc and i’m glad you from your tv screen at home could tell me how hurt the guy is or anyone else on this team. You say you would say it when anyone else does it in one post then you say in the next post you are not going to type everytime someone does it. Yeah, you make a lot of since to me. Don’t get mad because I called you on your crap.
Mr. Enigma
September 18th, 2009
8:45 pm
nycbravesfan
Joe Maddon benched B.J. Upton twice in September last year for not hustling. Upton pulled his head out of his butt and realized he needed to step up. And the Rays still won the AL Pennant.
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
8:47 pm
RHR Every single pitcher misses their spot every single time, don’t you get it?
Ugh…not EVERY time.
But THAT time…
You takin’ a stab at me?
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
8:47 pm
Howard has homered in 3 of his past 5 ABs at the Ted…
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
8:48 pm
Danga,
Avoiding redundancy is not one of the things you are good at avoiding.
Sorry, had to do that.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
8:48 pm
No way McFann! I’m taking a stab at everyone pitching to Howard. Stop it already!
Braves Paisan
September 18th, 2009
8:49 pm
nycbravesfan, I agree that you don’t pull a key player in an important. He is embarassed, but you lose his skills. Call him into the office, dress him down, fine him … but why hurt the rest of the team? It seems self-defeating.
I was at that game when, early in his career, Andruw Jones didn’t move on a deep liner in the gap. Bobby replaced him immediately, and it worked –Jones played great, hustling center field for us for the rest of his stay here. Some OTHER approach is needed with Escobar.
(By the way, I was born in Greenpoint. Yo’, Brooklyn!)
RHR
September 18th, 2009
8:50 pm
Cox needs to be held more accountable… i would love for someone to grill him about that decision in the post game.. i mean seriously.. 3 wks in the season and your still trying to teach lessons…
But only to one guy…everyone else can learn lessons on their own.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
8:51 pm
And its hispanic heritage night at the ted too….
Timbo
September 18th, 2009
8:51 pm
Hopefully this is the last year for Cox. He runs this team as if it were a little league team; which is fine if you’re winning; otherwise it makes for a completely boring team. Anyone that doesn’t have a plain white bread type personality will clash with him . . .
fastasballs
September 18th, 2009
8:52 pm
I’m still amazed Cox benched Escobar at this point in the season. Why hurt the team? Shaking my head…………………
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
8:52 pm
And for the record I don’t have anything against the message Bobby is trying to send Esco, just call me a fool for wanting him to send that message to ALL our players and not just some. Would I have rather he did something else to get the message thru to him, yes. But I don’t hate the message just wished it was more equally distributed.
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
8:53 pm
Bobby Cox is a F***ing idiot.
Who runs hard on a ball hit to the second baseman? I don’t recall Chipper doing it lately.
Do we want guys pulling hamstrings on meaningless plays?
nycbravesfan
September 18th, 2009
8:53 pm
Mr. Enigma, What has Joe Madden done this year?
If Joe Madden jumps off the bridge, Bobby Cox should…
right on, i live in astoria, chilly up here now!
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
8:54 pm
Why is Chipper even hitting?
What is that doing for us? He can’t hit s***.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
8:54 pm
Totally agree, Jake.
nycbravesfan
September 18th, 2009
8:56 pm
y would you even compare bobby cox to joe madden, Cox is a much better manager..
I have been a long time supporter of Cox, but there is no denying that he has made more than his share of horrible, horrible decisions.. like pitching to Howard with two outs…the list goes on forever my friend
A FAN
September 18th, 2009
8:57 pm
just pathetic plan and simple!
Kelly's Johnson
September 18th, 2009
8:57 pm
There is a VERY good reason why Cox does NOT have as much “patience” with Esco….as he does with the other players on the team… IF…you don’t know why that is….either you haven’t been watching Esco’s play this year…OR…you don’t know much about baseball….Personally, I hope Esco grows up and learns how to play the game…At the moment…I’m not at all sure this will ever happen…we shall see.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
8:57 pm
Will he pitch to Howard?
I vote YES.
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
8:57 pm
Wish someone could bench Bobby after he continuously makes bone headed decisons. I mean, the objective is to win, right? So, Yunel not hustling wasn’t a winning attitude, well, than neither is burying your pen arms in the ground and batting CJ 3rd and LaRoche 7th and 8th in the lineup.
brian
September 18th, 2009
8:58 pm
How do you not hustle with the Braves riding a 7 game winning streak to get back to the fringe of the playoffs?
nycbravesfan
September 18th, 2009
8:58 pm
and your appropriately names kelly johnson..
Jimmy Joe
September 18th, 2009
8:58 pm
Trading Escobar would be stupid, but the package of prospects would be immense.
Roman Gal
September 18th, 2009
8:59 pm
I can’t believe what the Phillies gave up for Lee and Francisco…
RHR
September 18th, 2009
8:59 pm
Yeah too bad Yunel doesn’t get the patience Frenchy and Kelly got, huh? Oh well. Thems the breaks.
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
8:59 pm
OUT!!!
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
9:00 pm
Good night, all. On a church league softball team I understood that you run all out on every play, because every year or two a fielder makes a mistake. In 1969, Gil Hodges walked out halfway to left field and pulled his best hitter, Cleon Jones, for failing to hustle after a fly ball. Bobby has tried to get that message across to Yunel all year. Maybe it’s okay to not hustle because we like to shift blame to Chipper, or because we hate Bobby, but that is not the way I learned baseball.
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
9:01 pm
RHR – sucking and not hustling are totally different!
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
9:01 pm
Braves Paisan
September 18th, 2009
8:49 pm
nycbravesfan, I agree that you don’t pull a key player in an important. He is embarassed, but you lose his skills. Call him into the office, dress him down, fine him … but why hurt the rest of the team? It seems self-defeating.
I was at that game when, early in his career, Andruw Jones didn’t move on a deep liner in the gap. Bobby replaced him immediately, and it worked –Jones played great, hustling center field for us for the rest of his stay here.
That is absolutely false. Bobby pulled him out of a game in like 1997 for dropping a ball or doing a basket catch, basically not hustling in the outfield.
His last three years here he never even ran out a ball hit to third. Bobby did s*** about it.
How do you take Yunel out of the f***ing game? This is bull***.
nolie
September 18th, 2009
9:02 pm
WHy aiN’t KeLLy pLayINg? We ain’T GoNNa wiN nO gaMes wiTh a dOg Like Prado playing. FiRE bOOby bOOger, fRee kEllY. BAllGaME!!!
Kelly's Johnson
September 18th, 2009
9:02 pm
I think we can all agree that Esco has “earned” his “no patience” tag from Cox…(assuming we’re being serious here…which, of course, may be assuming too much)
lexbrave
September 18th, 2009
9:03 pm
not that im complaining, but if anyone needs to be benched its franscisco for trying to steal 3rd after hitting a lead off double.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
9:03 pm
LMAO idiots.
Roman Gal
September 18th, 2009
9:03 pm
[sigh]
bravesgrl4life
September 18th, 2009
9:03 pm
Would a walk have hurt us there????
bravesgirlnc
September 18th, 2009
9:03 pm
Why are they pitching to him???
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
9:04 pm
Oh, well, I guess they can keep trying to pitch to him.
Huddy gave up THREE homers in one game against Howard a few years ago.
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
9:04 pm
WTF
Bobby needs to be fired. NOW!
F it. I’m done.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
9:04 pm
How bout benching Huddy and Heap for pitching to howard?
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
9:04 pm
Maybe we should just give them an automatic run every time Howard comes to bat – cut down on the torment.
Tomahawk Choppers
September 18th, 2009
9:04 pm
Letting him do it to us again. Two great fastballs inside and another high slider. Why not go back inside again? Unbelieveable
cricket
September 18th, 2009
9:04 pm
I know everyone hates that quote about insanity, but…
Efrim
September 18th, 2009
9:04 pm
Haven’t been around for a while, hope all is well with everyone on the ole blog. Some streak the Braves are on, hopefully they’ll continue it tonight. Sucks to see Esco pulled….I hope they have abandoned any notion of dealing him, because he is one of the top 5 most valuable players in the organization.
AndyC
September 18th, 2009
9:05 pm
Note to Bobby.
DON’T PITCH TO HOWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Danga
September 18th, 2009
9:05 pm
Bye Mitchell.
Witch Doctor Soriano
September 18th, 2009
9:05 pm
How many more balls is Hudson going to leave up in the zone?
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
9:05 pm
Those Philly players are just laughing thier ass off at Hudson and Mac.
SouthernBelleBrave
September 18th, 2009
9:05 pm
So stupid to keep pitching to that MF Howard!!!! They will never learn.
lexbrave
September 18th, 2009
9:05 pm
you have got to be kidding me…the bases were freaking clear and they still pitched to howard…obviously the braves are thinking, i don’t know what the heck they’re thinking.
iowabrave
September 18th, 2009
9:06 pm
Someone please ask Mr. Cox why he chooses to pitch to Howard. How many times does he have to do this to us?
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
9:06 pm
Told ya….he’s not done yet either. Keep on groovin’ ‘em to him Huddy.
We don’t need this game huh?
RHR
September 18th, 2009
9:06 pm
Jim – ever read Frenchy’s comments in the paper when he sucked? When he got sent down? Complete disrespect for the team and the manager…and yet…who backed down and let him come back after 2 days? Way to show ‘em who is boss…
YE19
September 18th, 2009
9:06 pm
Efrim,
WRT Esco… Amen to that. Amen.
Kelly's Johnson
September 18th, 2009
9:07 pm
Actually…Druw was pulled DURING the inning….for not making much of an attempt on a looping fly ball to short center….just kinda loafed in and let it fall….it was pretty obvious he did it on purpose..
Roman Gal
September 18th, 2009
9:07 pm
Hmm…ok. I knew 2 homeruns sounded a little light.
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
9:07 pm
“There is a VERY good reason why Cox does NOT have as much “patience” with Esco….as he does with the other players on the team… IF…you don’t know why that is….either you haven’t been watching Esco’s play this year…OR…you don’t know much about baseball….Personally, I hope Esco grows up and learns how to play the game…At the moment…I’m not at all sure this will ever happen…we shall see.”
Maybe its you who doesn’t watch the game enough or know much about it because if you did you would realize that just yesterday JOE SIMPSON said officials from other teams and he acknowledged himself how much Escobar had grown up and matured. You know, someone who actually sees what the guy is like day in day out. Does that mean the guy will be perfect from here on out, No. Name me someone who is. Some of you people need to get off your high horses. So quick to judge from a far. But then again with a name like Kelly’s Johnson that should tell me all I need to know about you and the way you think.
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
9:07 pm
Bye Danga.
Your name is dumb.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
9:08 pm
RYAN HOWARD HAS HIT 4 HRS IN HIS LAST 6 ABS AT TURNER FIELD!!!
Mr. Enigma
September 18th, 2009
9:08 pm
RHR
Francoeur was called back up so quick because both Matt Diaz and Mark Kotsay got injured in a game in Milwaukee and they were short on outfielders. Players aren’t allowed to be called back up for 10 days unless they’re replacing someone who is injured.
bravefaninok
September 18th, 2009
9:08 pm
I think Huddy better just walk Howard no matter what.
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
9:08 pm
Yeah, we had a comeback win against the Mets, but these are the Phillies.
Whole different ballgame.
braves70
September 18th, 2009
9:08 pm
Someone please bench Cox for continnuing to pitch to Howard. Same old Cox. We’ll do it my way until it works.
Efrim
September 18th, 2009
9:09 pm
Enter your comments hereI can’t believe what the Phillies gave up for Lee and Francisco…
Roman Gal, I remember some folks saying that it was a good trade for both teams, but I am still trying to understand how the Indians did well there. The Phillies managed to keep 5 of their best 6 prospects(including Happ in there). I understand that the Phillies had a deep system, but don’t you have to get at least one of the big outfielders or Happ or Drabek there? Heck, how about Travis D’Arnaud instead of Lou Marson? Most things I have read about the two have said D’Arnaud has the higher ceiling. Plus, Carlos Santana is real close. The Lee trade was probably for salary reasons, but I still expected a better haul. Kind of discourages me about the Braves ability to get a big prospect package for Vazquez, if they choose to put him out there. 1.5 years of Lee > 1 year of Vazquez, in my opinion. But who knows.
McFann Ô
September 18th, 2009
9:09 pm
RHR I’m taking a stab at everyone pitching to Howard. Stop it already!
Sorry…
TnBrian Those Philly players are just laughing their [butts] off at Hudson and Mac.
Watch it, buddy. If BMac wouldn’t have caught that guy stealing this would be a 4-1 game…
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
9:09 pm
RYAN HOWARD HAS HIT 4 HRS IN HIS LAST 6 ABS AT TURNER FIELD!!!
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
9:10 pm
During Phillies games, we should just sticky a few comments about pitching to Howard at the top of the blog.
It’s silly. I had stepped away and didn’t get to hear whatever veiled shots Don Sutton MAY HAVE taken at Bobby after this dinger.
What a joke.
lexbrave
September 18th, 2009
9:10 pm
remember back when bonds was juicing and he was hitting every other pitch out of the park and one manager walked him with the bases loaded to bring in a run just to save giving up 4? now that guy was a smart manager. it takes a lot less intelligence to put a guy on with the bases loaded and make someone else beat you.
McFann Ô
September 18th, 2009
9:10 pm
Yay, BMac!
lexbrave
September 18th, 2009
9:10 pm
bases empty i meant to type
RHR
September 18th, 2009
9:10 pm
Oh is that why Mr. Enigma? Color me unconvinced.
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
9:11 pm
See ya’ll tomorrow…..Philly’s got this one in the bag.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
9:12 pm
C’ mon Braves!!!
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks and Bobby Cox has it out for Escobar
September 18th, 2009
9:12 pm
would have been nice to have Esco up there
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
9:12 pm
What a BS call! Come on Blue!
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
9:12 pm
C’mon Infante!!!
bravesgrl4life
September 18th, 2009
9:13 pm
Okay, we just got fubarred there. No way he was out.
McFann Ô
September 18th, 2009
9:13 pm
SAFE, DANGIT!!!
Scott
September 18th, 2009
9:13 pm
Sure would’ve been nice to have Escobar instead of cruddy Infante up there.
Braves Paisan
September 18th, 2009
9:13 pm
Mitchell, I don’t remember the game you cite with the basket catch, but I have to say that in CF, Andruw played as hard (and as well if not better) than any centerfielder I ever saw in fifty years watching the game. Man, one year he almost broke 500 put-outs — and if I remember my idol Mickey Mantle never broke 400, and even Willie didn’t get close to 500 (I just checked — 448 was his high) during a period with fewer strikeouts. Andruw did the job in CF.
Johnny Bravo
September 18th, 2009
9:14 pm
Is anybody watching this atrocious managing by Cox? I am a diehard Braves & Bobby Cox fan, but Cox’s reluctance to walk Howard is flat out Little League B.S.. I mean come on, how many home runs is this guy gonna slap in your face before you wake up. We had no issue walking Bonds years ago. Here we have a legit shot at pulling off a Rockies type year ending streak and we are still pitching to this guy?
Granted, Hudson couldn’t have placed a nicer pitch for his ole buddy Howard up there with a frickin’ T-Ball stand.
I love Bobby Cox but it is time to hang up the spikes, baby.
McFann Ô
September 18th, 2009
9:14 pm
He was SAFE by 3 FREAKIN’ MILES!!
Why do umps hate us so much this year?
Kelly's Johnson
September 18th, 2009
9:14 pm
OK…I give up…Esco has grown up and matured greatly ….I think all the Braves players love his style of play…and really enjoy playing with him…he sets a fine example that all the other Braves should follow…
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
9:14 pm
Howard has hit five homers off Hudson in his last three starts against the Phillies
lexbrave
September 18th, 2009
9:14 pm
Wow, does that 1st base ump have money on the game or something? that’s one of the worst blown calls i’ve seen in 20+ years of watching baseball… that wasn’t even a bang bang play.
braves70
September 18th, 2009
9:15 pm
lexBrave, I am pretty sure it was Buck Showalter that walked Bonds with the bases loaded. Maybe he can atke over for Cox next year.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
9:15 pm
Warning Track Power!
Danga
September 18th, 2009
9:15 pm
Sorry Mitchell…Didn’t mean to be rude, but I think you need an anxiolytic before you watch the game sometimes. Your BP must go through the roof.
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
9:15 pm
Sorry, still here.
Jake is absolutely right. Yunel is a better player than he was last year, he’s one of the best players on this team. He’s matured from the way he was last year, he’s more mature than he was in April and even more so than the game against the Mets with the failed hit and run.
Bobby is a f***ing idiot. It’s like Chase Utley is some arthritic 45 year old at second.
That’s disrespectful to Chase Utley as far as I’m concerned.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
9:16 pm
DOB,
My stats are better…
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
9:16 pm
McFann, if McCann would make it a point to go to the mound or at least hit the ground with his glove, ANYTHING, when Howard is up then it might be 2-1 Braves.
Mr. Enigma
September 18th, 2009
9:16 pm
Infante was way safe. Not even close.
Gemini
September 18th, 2009
9:16 pm
This is why I never thought we’d get back into the wild card race, despite a 7 game winning streak. Cox simply makes bad decisions when we get into the clutch. Despite having our best offense all year, Cox puts a slumping Chipper in and benches Escobar for the most minor infraction. Way to rock the boat, Bobby.
Timbo
September 18th, 2009
9:17 pm
Bobby Cox must’ve got some bad cigars. He’s smoking something for sure. Why continue pitching to Howard if you haven’t figured out how to get him out?
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
9:17 pm
Don’t mean to over state the obvious but once again the braves offense has gone m.i.a. Say what you will about Howard, but its 3 runs up there on the board. Didn’t the Mets do that twice last series and we swept them. This once again falls on the offense.
Marc from FL
September 18th, 2009
9:17 pm
I wish this offense would remember that we have no power and stop trying to go yard every at-bat
TBrown
September 18th, 2009
9:17 pm
FREE ESCOBAR
Arizona Brave
September 18th, 2009
9:18 pm
Why in the world do we pitch to Ryan Howard?! How many homers does he have to hit before Bobby starts walking him?
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
9:18 pm
God hates the Braves, its clear…
lexbrave
September 18th, 2009
9:18 pm
braves70, you’re right, it was showalter..and the next hitter lined out and the diamondbacks won 8-7
braves70
September 18th, 2009
9:18 pm
Bobby Cox, fails yet again in a big game situation. Same thing every year.
Alonso
September 18th, 2009
9:19 pm
A couple of extremely bad pitches to Howard, but it’s still good to have Huddy back. Now let’s get some f’in runs!
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
9:19 pm
Jurrigens 4 NL Cy Young
Funniest show of all time is Martin…That show still cracks me up
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
9:19 pm
Boy Hudson has pitched REALLY well…
Danga
September 18th, 2009
9:19 pm
Go to the mound? C’mon. Maybe with a rookie, but Tim Hudson knows he doesn’t need to throw him a fat one where he can get his hands extended. He was just missing with his pitches.
Moby Grape
September 18th, 2009
9:20 pm
Tip of the cap to Howard. It doesn’t matter which Braves pitcher is on the mound, he just lights them up.
What happened with Escobar?
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
9:20 pm
C’mon Braves!!
brian
September 18th, 2009
9:20 pm
if Escobar is not as hurt I am just as surprised at Cox benching Escobar’s bat in a crucial game as I am in Escobar not hustling. If Escobar was not hurt and was not hustling that is inexcusable but Cox should have dealt with that later – not punishing the whole Braves team by taking his bat out of the game.
Tomahawk Choppers
September 18th, 2009
9:21 pm
Deep thoughts by Tomahawk:
Why do I keep letting the Braves pull me back in? There I was after the Reds series in dismay, and also with a sense that what I espected of this Braves team had come to be, though a bit earlier than expected. Mentally I was in offseason mode, still checking the score from time to time, unemotional of the events good or bad, but thinking of Chipper and Roach hunting on the ranch, Vazquez chllin in Puerto Rico, and Loaf, well, loafing somewhere in the greater 48. Then it happened, the biggest winning streak in three years, a glimmer of hope, and a sense that they may never lose again. I sit on my couch as if this is opening night again, living and dying on every pitch, and watching that son of a bitch Ryan Howard punching my hopes in the face two more times like he has done so often before. Go Braves…
Sons of Saban
September 18th, 2009
9:21 pm
Nick Saban would NOT bench Escobar. FAHR Bobby Cox !!
McFann Ô
September 18th, 2009
9:21 pm
TnBrian–
Yeah, well…
Ha! And the Braves have more hits than the Fillies, too! This is sad…Timmy’s not pitching that bad. Oh, but I know…
mike28212
September 18th, 2009
9:21 pm
who sang ‘take me out to the ballgame? the count from sesame street?
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
9:22 pm
RHR – difference- you HATE Frenchy – I like Yunel
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
9:22 pm
Howard Hitting solo shots off us doesn’t bother me…The fact that the AWFense failed to show up yet again does…
Go Bulldogs!
bravesgrl4life
September 18th, 2009
9:22 pm
Dan Akroyd, Mike.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
9:23 pm
I wish we could take Jeff Francouers D and Matts O and combine them into a super player…
Kelly's Johnson
September 18th, 2009
9:23 pm
I hate top-spinners.
Marc from FL
September 18th, 2009
9:23 pm
Here it goes again, we’re triyng to knock the cover off the ball every swing and won’t get a hit the rest of the game as a result
SouthernBelleBrave
September 18th, 2009
9:24 pm
Come on offense!!
braves70
September 18th, 2009
9:24 pm
We have no offense because our genius manager put the best hitter on the bench. Cox is a loser!
Alonso
September 18th, 2009
9:24 pm
shocked it’s not norton. guess it’s not a critical enough situation.
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
9:25 pm
Sorry Danga.
I happen to like your name very much. I really do. I was just acting out I guess.
Not sure why I would know what an anxiolytic is but I’ll have you know my blood pressure kicks ass.
But am I really supposed to be chilled out about this game?
ryan
September 18th, 2009
9:25 pm
Can we walk Howard once. Umpires are a joke worst in any sport. How the hell can they miss a play at first that bad.Why at home do they stay behind the catcher where they miss more calls.Cant stand watching Manaul chew that darn gum with his mouth open.FIRE COX
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
9:25 pm
God Damn It!
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
9:25 pm
Why are the braves swinging for the fences…? I just don’t get it…
Maybe I need to Change My name to Bobby and TP must go!
Alonso
September 18th, 2009
9:26 pm
this game has been frustrating as hell. really does remind me of a standard braves playoff game.
brian
September 18th, 2009
9:26 pm
If Escobar was not hustling in this crucial game, you have to wonder when Escobar will wear out his welcome with Bobby and the Braves. I think Escobar has been our MVP, along with our starting pitchers, but if there was no hustle you can add Escobar to Frank Wren’s decisions this offseason. I want Escobar to stay a Brave but if he has a toxic personality (not saying that he does) do the Braves trade him while his value is high.
I can only imagine the suitors for Escobar would be numerous if he was made available in the offseason. He will not bring us our big bat but he could bring a big return freeing us to make other moves. Boston (Buchholz or Bard, and Lowrie for Escobar) in particular would be a big suitor as LA Dodgers may be (moving Furcal to 2B when Hudson leaves – would they trade an OF such as Kemp or Ethier for Escobar).
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
9:28 pm
CJ back = slumping offense. 6 more outs to go, but it isn’t looking so good.
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
9:28 pm
Alonso,
Reading my mind . . .
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
9:28 pm
Enter your comments hereBring on the Med’s! Medlen is in…
He may be the most underrated pitcher on the staff
a643dp
September 18th, 2009
9:29 pm
Bobby and his league of coaches are awesome. Since July 28th Howard has 14 HRs and guess what 7 are against the Braves.Since July 28th in 25 ABs Howard has hit 7 HRs against the braves. The other 7 HRs took 161 ABs against nine different teams. Yeah Bobby is the best. LOL
mike28212
September 18th, 2009
9:29 pm
bravesgrl4life – thanks. i just heard a bit of it over the tv and had no idea.
bravesgirlnc
September 18th, 2009
9:29 pm
Where did our offense go?
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
9:29 pm
Top of the order in the 8th.
Then hopefully, we’ll get to our best hitters by the 9th.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
9:30 pm
Which Friends episode will cheer me up after tonights game….
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
9:30 pm
Has anyone ever seen 3 relievers warm up in the bullpen simultaneously?
I think Turner Field is the only place in the bigs that has 3 slabs of rubber in the bullpen mound…
Choppinmama
September 18th, 2009
9:30 pm
Not until irrefutable statistics prove we’re out of it will you have to to pry my cold, dead fingers off my tomahawak for the 2009 season.
Not until you hear Bobby shouting at you, “easy, easy” will you slow down your run to 1st on a sure out dribbler toward second. (make Esco sit in a room and watch that sure 9th-inning, 3rd-out, game-eding liner to 1st during the Mets series…..that went under his glove, giving us the win……over and over and over and over…)
Not until he’s not in the lineup do you not worry about pitching to Hayward.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
9:31 pm
He may be the most underrated pitcher on the staff
UM NO he is not…
McFann Ô
September 18th, 2009
9:31 pm
Ow…
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
9:31 pm
Oh goodie goodie, Esco messes up for the first time since June and brian is already coming up with more trade scenerio’s. You just can’t wait to get rid of this guy for some reason. Frank Wren if you hadn’t noticed is a seperate entity from Bobby Cox, thus the reason we don’t have Smoltz and many other places. Frank Wren and Yunel Escobar will be here for a while. Can’t say the same about Bobby and neither can he himself. Frank Wren is building us a solid team, he is not about to mess that up.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
9:31 pm
I don’t know why everyone is all up in arms, you knew this would happen when you read the blog today. The Yunel stuff was just an added bonus.
nolie
September 18th, 2009
9:31 pm
Fire Escobar.MaYbe we cAn get a deSceNt middle reliever f0r hiM.
Rehire bOOby for as l0ng as he wANts. This bOred won’t be n0 fUN at all if bOOby bOOger leaves.
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
9:32 pm
Bill Welke Has been screwing us on the calls at first all night long…
Arrrggghhhh!!!
bravesgrl4life
September 18th, 2009
9:32 pm
that freakin first base umpire is screwing us.
braves70
September 18th, 2009
9:32 pm
Where did our offense go? It got benched by that idiot manager, Bobby Cox.
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
9:33 pm
Last post its suppose to be players not places.
Bravesfan54
September 18th, 2009
9:34 pm
Enter your comments here
Listen up, I’ve been a fan for a mighty long time. I understand where we stand now – no fool here…but, dang it, I thought not pitching to Howard was the ‘Nicene Creed’ of our current ethos. What went wrong? Is there something I don’t understand?
RHR
September 18th, 2009
9:34 pm
Jim – hate is a strong word. I didn’t like him with the braves at all but i’m indifferent about him now…just saying, he never would’ve been treated like Yunel.
McFann Ô
September 18th, 2009
9:34 pm
Medlen had Rollins picked off…
He has the best pick-off move on the team, I think.
Roman Gal
September 18th, 2009
9:34 pm
1.5 years of Lee > 1 year of Vazquez, in my opinion. But who knows. Efrim
True. I have to think that if the Braves decide to trade Javy, it won’t happen until late in the off-season because of Roy Halladay.
I have to think that the reason the Indians accepted that deal was for a salary dump because I don’t doubt they could’ve gotten more for him. Or maybe it was like the Santana trade where they waited too long.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
9:35 pm
He definitely does, McFann.
Nick
September 18th, 2009
9:35 pm
Medlen will never amount to anything on this level.
bobby
September 18th, 2009
9:35 pm
If Howard played all of his games against the Braves he would probably hit 130 in a season. I know he is a big slugger but something is wrong when one of the best staffs in baseball cannot figure how to pitch to him. Could it be the manager and coaching staff???
Marc from FL
September 18th, 2009
9:35 pm
You can’t just walk power guys everytime they come up, no one would watch this game if you did. And typically you don’t walk guys on if there’s no one on unless it’s late and close. Regardless, the Phils have 3 runs and that shouldn’t be enough to win, it will be because our offense is in denial and think we have sluggers on our team. What a shame
nolie
September 18th, 2009
9:36 pm
It got benched by that idiot manager, Bobby Cox. (Braves 70)
who Yunel? He’s 12 for his last 44, ain’t exactly burning it up lately.
Marc from FL
September 18th, 2009
9:37 pm
No bobby, it’s not the coaching staff, it’s called Tim Hudson missed his location twice with below average pitches and Howard crushed them just like any other half-decent hitter would.
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
9:37 pm
Walk Howard NOW!!!
bravesgrl4life
September 18th, 2009
9:38 pm
I don’t care who Bobby puts in there, darn it, WALK HOWARD!!!! It loads the bases, but maybe, just maybe we can get out of this.
Roman Gal
September 18th, 2009
9:38 pm
One way to keep Howard in the ballpark is to intentionally walk him…
RHR
September 18th, 2009
9:38 pm
WTF Medlen can’t pitch an intentional walk? My god how dumb. Lefty lefty matchup my ass. How bout a walky walky matchup?
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
9:38 pm
Medlen made 13 throws to the plate — and nine to first base.
Jay212033
September 18th, 2009
9:39 pm
“Medlen will never amount to anything on this level.”
Dumbest statement ever!!!
Choppinmama
September 18th, 2009
9:39 pm
Just Pat: I really enjoyed the Top Plays during the rain delay also. I especially liked the 8.5 Richter Scale slide of BMac’s on that triple – and Chipper’s reaction to it..
Bobby’s #2000th win was a big suprise too ’cause they showed me and my sign “Skipper, congrats on #2000″ that I took to the game that night. My sign and I were in the AJC the next day after the big win. Guess I’ll be a part of Braves lore down thru the ages. Cool.
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
9:40 pm
RHR – Frenchy never dogged it in a game – Yunel does over and freakin’ over – Frenchy is a dimwit, Yunel apparently does not understand how not to look like you are losing concentration…
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
9:40 pm
“I didn’t like him with the braves at all but i’m indifferent about him now…just saying, he never would’ve been treated like Yunel.”
Completely agree with you RHR. Whats so wrong about asking a manager to treat and expect the same kind of behavior from all his players. Lets not play favorites here. These are all big boys, if you’re going to punish one for something do it to them all. Hard to respect someone who isn’t preaching the same message to all players but just some. I don’t care who the manager is and who the player is. Got to be consistent with the message.
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
9:40 pm
ummmm, why bring in Logan to intentionally walk Howard?
RHR
September 18th, 2009
9:40 pm
Lmao Boone Logan vs Ryan Howard.
Roman Gal
September 18th, 2009
9:40 pm
Very well rested is one way to put it…
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks and Bobby Cox has it out for Escobar
September 18th, 2009
9:40 pm
Logan is still on our team
lol
curtis jones
September 18th, 2009
9:40 pm
Braves and Ryan Howard: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 40 times, shame on me. When will the Braves learn?
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
9:40 pm
Whaddya Know…I give Props to Meds and he comes out flat…
Rollins was out! That missed call will hurt, “Bank On It!: There should be just a runner on first and 2 outs
Come On Booney!
Walk Howard do the unintentional intentional walk…
GoBraves123
September 18th, 2009
9:40 pm
Jurrjens4NLCY
How about: “The one where the entire cast of Friends is overpaid, and the only thing that makes this show watchable is when paul rudd guest stars.”
How about that episode?
Marc from FL
September 18th, 2009
9:41 pm
You people are crazy. Howard at best, and I mean like God-mode best, will get a hit 4 out of 10 at-bats against us and a homer 1-2 times every 10 at-bats. Putting him on to load the bases gives the Phils even more leverage against our pitchers; not a good move.
Van the Man
September 18th, 2009
9:41 pm
Enter your comments here
Logan lives!
nolie
September 18th, 2009
9:41 pm
Where’s the bulldog mentality y’all always claim for Medlen? Right now he just looks middlin’. Guysa bum
curtis jones
September 18th, 2009
9:41 pm
Calling all cars: cancel the missing person alert on Boone Logan. We’ve found him.
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks and Bobby Cox has it out for Escobar
September 18th, 2009
9:42 pm
WTF bench LaRoche
brian
September 18th, 2009
9:42 pm
DOB – how was the new Drivin’ N’ Cryin’ CD???
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
9:42 pm
WTF Roachy!!!
Gawd Our Defense Sucks!
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
9:42 pm
Yeah, Boone!!!!
curtis jones
September 18th, 2009
9:42 pm
EXCELLENT!
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks and Bobby Cox has it out for Escobar
September 18th, 2009
9:42 pm
about FU@@@@@ time
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
9:42 pm
Yeahhh
Thats What I like to see…! Way to drill him…! Nice!
Roman Gal
September 18th, 2009
9:43 pm
Haha…yes.
Take that!!
Nick
September 18th, 2009
9:43 pm
Finally!
nycbravesfan
September 18th, 2009
9:43 pm
utley was out of the baseline.. thats three calls theyve missed tonight… bout time they hit howard
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
9:43 pm
“Frenchy never dogged it in a game” – Vinings Jim
Recall the game against the Boston Sox when Varitek turned a single into a double because Frenchy decided not to hustle to a ball and Varitek took advantage of it and turned it into a double. There you go, thats at least one. I’m sure others can come up with more.
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
9:43 pm
Is It too early to call “Game Over”?
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
9:43 pm
Go to 1st base you ugly ass MF!
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
9:43 pm
HBP
curtis jones
September 18th, 2009
9:43 pm
Atta baby Boone!
Marc from FL
September 18th, 2009
9:43 pm
You guys got what you wanted, he walked, now the bases are loaded. Our guys have to be perfect now to keep the Phils from adding on. This is bad.
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks and Bobby Cox has it out for Escobar
September 18th, 2009
9:44 pm
Acosta, are we trying to win this game.
Chris
September 18th, 2009
9:44 pm
C. Medlen is a bit of a nervous Nelly on the mound.
Roman Gal
September 18th, 2009
9:44 pm
Acosta? No Moylan?
bravesgirlnc
September 18th, 2009
9:44 pm
Wow. Logan to Acosta. I guess Bobby has some golf outings set up for October huh?
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
9:44 pm
Manny “I Cost Ya” is in…This is not good! I have a bad feeling about this move
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks and Bobby Cox has it out for Escobar
September 18th, 2009
9:44 pm
way to burn out Gonzo, Moylan, and Soriano against those scary mets
Choppinmama
September 18th, 2009
9:44 pm
Hayward, Howard………….you guys know who I mean. The big guy with the big bat in this game.
Marc from FL
September 18th, 2009
9:45 pm
On a side note, it looked like Howard was going to body slam Logan for a minute, lol
curtis jones
September 18th, 2009
9:45 pm
Chipper Jones in the Braves lineup= Debbie Downer
RHR
September 18th, 2009
9:45 pm
Wait…is that MANNY ACOSTA!?
hahahahahahahahahah
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
9:45 pm
Ohhh Boy…
I Feel a BF coming on…!
curtis jones
September 18th, 2009
9:45 pm
Manny Acosta. Soon to be 7-1 Phils.
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
9:45 pm
Ah yes, who better than Manny Acosta.
a643dp
September 18th, 2009
9:46 pm
Mike Epps sucks why do we keep putting him in?
jonnycash
September 18th, 2009
9:46 pm
No. Too inconsistent. Phillies will win series and that will be that. Too little too late. This team is good not great. Maybe next year with a few additions….and subtractions.(Norton to start off with)
SouthernBelleBrave
September 18th, 2009
9:46 pm
I sure don’t feel sorry for Logan hitting Howard….I’m glad he did! I know it puts the Braves in a tight situation now with bases loaded, 2 outs. But Howard just deserved it…kwim?
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
9:46 pm
Manny, Come On!!!
I miss the days when we had Ray “Burger” King in this spot…
Finally
September 18th, 2009
9:47 pm
Hell yes, hit that bastid!!!
Roman Gal
September 18th, 2009
9:47 pm
For Werth to be so freakin’ unsung, people sure are singin’ his praises this year. Every time he comes to bat…blech.
Choppinmama
September 18th, 2009
9:47 pm
BravesFan54: Wow, never imagined I’d see a reference to the Nicene Creed on a baseball blog!!!
nycbravesfan
September 18th, 2009
9:48 pm
here it comes grand slam
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
9:48 pm
Game Over! ARRRGGGHHHH!!!
Nick
September 18th, 2009
9:48 pm
Bobby with another dumb move. Putting in Acosta with the bases loaded.
bravesgrl4life
September 18th, 2009
9:49 pm
I never say it, but I am saying it now. Ballgane,
And, tonight will be the decisive answer to the question “Can they do it.” We lose and the answer is no.
brian
September 18th, 2009
9:49 pm
good night playoffs. Walk the leadoff hitter. Unable to complete a pickoff. Hit batsmen.
O.J.
September 18th, 2009
9:49 pm
Welp, this game is done, see ya tomorrow.
curtis jones
September 18th, 2009
9:49 pm
The HOF manager will now let Mr. Acosta complete the inning by pitching to everyone on the Phillies roster.
braves70
September 18th, 2009
9:49 pm
In defense of Yunel, remember that he came from Commy land in Cuba. He has certainly had a culture shock and is playing now for the evil Americans as Castro always painted us. I say he must be given more room to grow than Senor Cox wants to allow.
brian
September 18th, 2009
9:49 pm
Manny Acosta has been terrible this year.
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
9:49 pm
There We Go B-Macc
Too bad the game is over
Marc from FL
September 18th, 2009
9:50 pm
Talk about bad management… And this time it wasn’t Bobby
McFann Ô
September 18th, 2009
9:50 pm
Ah! Beautiful throw!!
SouthernBelleBrave
September 18th, 2009
9:51 pm
This game has gone to hell in a handbasket. I hate the Phillies!
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks and Bobby Cox has it out for Escobar
September 18th, 2009
9:51 pm
this loss is on Cox
curtis jones
September 18th, 2009
9:51 pm
Acosta has a great future in MLB…as a batting practice pitcher.
McFann Ô
September 18th, 2009
9:51 pm
Oh dang…
nycbravesfan
September 18th, 2009
9:51 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSFy8RK-MFg
this might cheer u up!! this game is a bummer
Roman Gal
September 18th, 2009
9:52 pm
Have the Braves had a grand slam hit against them this year?
brian
September 18th, 2009
9:52 pm
braves70 – there is no excuse for not hustling no matter where you come from. “Room for growth” in the major leagues does not include allowing lack of hustle in a game with post-season aspirations on the line. In fact, there should not be lack of hustle in any game.
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
9:52 pm
Acosta sucks, Medlen sucks lately, Logan… well, have hardly seen him pitch to even know if he’s any good.
Hudson, coming back from TJ or not, will NOT pitch as well as Javy has in ‘09 and some of you want to trade him and resign Hudson? Uhhhhh, fu** no!
Marc from FL
September 18th, 2009
9:52 pm
Thank goodness, that inning was just painful to watch
Soph
September 18th, 2009
9:52 pm
Yay?
curtis jones
September 18th, 2009
9:53 pm
Aren’t good relievers supposed to be somewhat menacing? Medlen sweats more than Ted Stryker in “Airplane” and Acosta looks like he’s scared of the dark.
nycbravesfan
September 18th, 2009
9:53 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZNUlsD9GYc&NR=1
this ones better
McFann Ô
September 18th, 2009
9:53 pm
RHR He definitely does, McFann.
Yeah. Matter of fact, he’s got the only pick-off play…just about…
Choppinmama especially liked the 8.5 Richter Scale slide of BMac’s on that triple – and Chipper’s reaction to it..
Ah, man! That’s on that show? Next time that comes on, I’m stealing the remote!
Choppinmama
September 18th, 2009
9:53 pm
Kick save. Whatever it takes,
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
9:54 pm
I’m surprised no one has mentioned that Logan hit Howard on a 1-2 pitch.
bwash21
September 18th, 2009
9:54 pm
Looking ahead to next year, the Braves have some tough decisions to make. Soriano (6.35M) and Gonzalez (3.45M) are both free agents. Knowing the Braves, they don’t like to pay big money for relievers (never have) and I think we’re lucky to resign one of those guys.
At 12M, I can’t imagine we are going to resign Hudson who will be 35 next year and coming off surgery. Not worth the risk especially given the depth of the current rotation.
I would not trade Vasquez or Jurrjens. Lowe is nearly untradable at his salary as is Kawakami, and Hanson is untouchable of course.
Given that, I think there is 15M off the board w/ Hudson gone and I think we have a good trade fit with the White Sox. We need a stop gap 1B and a power hitting righty in the lineup. Paul Konerko is in the last year of his contract, making 12M, and leads his team in HR, RBI, and OBP. I think the Sox would possibly be interested in prospects, as well as Kelly Johnson, Kris Medlen, and maybe Canizares among others. Konerko would be a 1 yr guy while our future first basemen, Freddie Freeman, gets one more year of seasoning. Make a run at Chone Figgins, free agent from the Angels and plug him into our leadoff spot. Figgins can play all the OF spots, as well as 2B and 3B and is a true leadoff man we have lacked since Furcal left.
We need to spend some money on the bullpen but I can see Moylan closing next year and Campillo in the mix with whoever we can sign. Scott Eyre is available too if we can’t resign Gonzalez.
Imagine this offense:
Figgins SH (switch hitter, .299 avg, .399 OBP, and 42 steals right now)
McLouth LH (imagine 2 guys w/ speed at the top again)
Chipper SH – can’t possibly be done yet, needs more protection
Konerko RH (sorry LaRoche fans)
McCann LH – I love McCann, but he more dangerous as a 5 hitter
Escobar RH – a full year in the 5/6 spot = 100 RBI’s if healthy
Heyward LH – or Diaz, probably both
Prado RH – or Infante
You have Figgins, Prado, and Infante that can play multiple positions and give us alot of flexibility for when Chipper, McClouth, or Escobar are hurt.
Lastly, a change in leadership is badly needed. As much as Bobby has done, his tenure to motivate has run its course and a new spark is desperately needed as much as the Braves players don’t want to admit it. I know they love him but frankly, does he get the most out of his players still?
An honest answer to that is obvious, even for the most loyal Cox supporters.
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
9:54 pm
Its Acosta’s fault or Medlen’s or Hudson’s. 1 run is on the board. You are not going to beat the Phillies most of the time putting 1 run on the board. 1st start back for Happ, he wasn’t perfect and has to leave early because of injury. Then Kendrick comes in and shuts us down. The reason we are losing tonight is the reason we have lost most of the times this season. No offense. Pitching is there, but they can’t pitch shutouts every game.
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
9:54 pm
brian
September 18th, 2009
9:49 pm
Manny Acosta has been terrible this year.
Mitchell
September 18th, 2008
9:53 pm
Manny Acosta has been terrible this year.
It’s like that movie Back to Future, only, that was good.
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
9:55 pm
Manny Acosta will be on next years team assuming that both MFIKY and Gonzo walk via free agancy…
Gonzo or MFIKY Will sell-out to one of the New York teams “Bank On It” Braves are wise not to get into bidding wars for free agant relievers…
I wouldn’t mind seeing KK be a set up man next year or close
I for one do not want to see either of them back next year…I think Meds Will be moved into a set-up role next year, if he isn’t traded for a bat
Roman Gal
September 18th, 2009
9:55 pm
If the Braves are able to score a run here, who closes for the Phils?
braves70
September 18th, 2009
9:55 pm
There you go ladies and Gentlemen, just a glimpse of the anguish that Bobby Cox would subject us all to were we to ever make the playoffs again. Bobby Cox: the mark of consistency. He always fails in a big game. Did it in Toronto too by blowing that 85 series against the Royals. Man never met a good situation that he could not screw up.
Chris
September 18th, 2009
9:55 pm
Regardless of what happens, we had little shot of making the playoffs, we all know that. Like I said the 2 games we blew against Colorado right before the AS break was the crucial turning point in the year, that and KJs awful year coupled with the failed Schafer experiment and the black hole known as JF.
Braves Paisan
September 18th, 2009
9:55 pm
Choppin’, I thought that Nicene Creed reference was cool, too … but remember DOB’s proscription against religion and politics on the BBB. As an agnostic anarchist I find it refreshing … except, every now and then, citing the most arcane fragments of the Gnostic Gospels seems most apropos. After all, there is no shortage of Gnostics here …
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
9:56 pm
Mitchell is back…!
What’s Happenin Chief…?
Soph
September 18th, 2009
9:57 pm
Ugh, Dacoooola won. jeffrey must be celebrating.
Choppinmama
September 18th, 2009
9:57 pm
McFann: yeah, I had forgotten just how funny it was. Chipper was absolutely dying in the dugout, using the railing to hold himself up!!!
Wilson
September 18th, 2009
9:58 pm
Glad we brought in Accosta to throw a little gasoline on that fire. Its like I say, anytime you have a chance to turn a manageable 2 run deficit into a 4 run deficit in the late innings you gotta do it. We need to leave Accosta on some street corner on our next road trip.
Soph
September 18th, 2009
9:59 pm
Marteeeeeeeen. x 2 since I missed his homer earlier.
It’s the socks.
iowabrave
September 18th, 2009
10:00 pm
Facing a must win game, we throw Medlen, Logan, & Acosta vs the meat of one of the best lineups in baseball. Spin it anyway you want, but that is simply inexcusable.
Roman Gal
September 18th, 2009
10:00 pm
If Chipper could just go ahead and hit a 5-run homerun, that would be great.
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks and Bobby Cox has it out for Escobar
September 18th, 2009
10:00 pm
CHIPPER SUCKS
The Abs Man
September 18th, 2009
10:00 pm
Bobby Cox, the most senile man in baseball, comes with Boone Logan–the worst lefty in bullpen—off a 22-day hiatus—to face Ryan Howard.
Then Manny Acosta to seal the deal.
Good thing Soriano pitched yesterday winning by a touchdown.
The Abs Man
September 18th, 2009
10:01 pm
All these blown games surrendered by BrainDead Bobby well worth it IF he sits home next season. And not on Braves bench.
curtis jones
September 18th, 2009
10:02 pm
Keep Chipper in that 3-hole, HOF manager. Because that’s where he’s always hit. If he plays until he’s 55, keep him in that 3-hole. Unless Hank Aaron makes a comeback. Because he also hits in the 3-hole. Then you’ll have to move Chipper to cleanup. And if Felix Millan comes back, you gotta bat him second. You know, loyalty and all.
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
10:02 pm
End of a ChippERA.
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
10:02 pm
Ok
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
10:02 pm
B-MMMAAAACCCCCC
Hell yeah!!!
Soph
September 18th, 2009
10:02 pm
Yay, Mac! Inching closer…
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks and Bobby Cox has it out for Escobar
September 18th, 2009
10:02 pm
makes what Cox did last inning look even worse. Where was Moylan?
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
10:02 pm
Wow, this team really does have a lot more resolve and resiliency that it used to.
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
10:02 pm
The Mac man comes through.
The Abs Man
September 18th, 2009
10:03 pm
How about that Boone Logan–Manny Acosta parlay now rolled into snake eyes by Bobby now after it is 5-3?
Bobby please fall on your sword.
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
10:03 pm
It should be a 3-3 game, Thanks Defense!!!
Scottn
September 18th, 2009
10:03 pm
TOO LATE!
Gave up those runs the previous inning.
a643dp
September 18th, 2009
10:03 pm
Too bad we had the Mississippi Braves pitch the 8th.
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
10:03 pm
YEE-HAW!! Mac is back!
Believe…
richbrave
September 18th, 2009
10:03 pm
Enter your comments here. O.K. BRIAN. We need you buddy. Time for #20.
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
10:04 pm
Chipper should have been cut 15 years ago to save us from all of this torment
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks and Bobby Cox has it out for Escobar
September 18th, 2009
10:04 pm
Frank Wren please fire Cox.
The Abs Man
September 18th, 2009
10:04 pm
Make a 3-1 deceit worse by bringing into pair of duds in Logan and Acosta. That’s BrainDead Bobby.
Soph
September 18th, 2009
10:04 pm
Geez, like 7 negative posts in a row.
Mike J
September 18th, 2009
10:04 pm
And now Bobby’s bone-headed move to bring in guys like Logan and Acosta looks really bad.
iowabrave
September 18th, 2009
10:05 pm
Someone tell the manager that is why you don’t waste the big arms on the Mets. With a real pitcher in the 8th, we would have a tie ballgame. Bobby Cox has forgotten more about baseball than I will ever know, but what he has forgotten has finally caught up to what he knows.
brian
September 18th, 2009
10:05 pm
how critical are those runs we gave up in the top half of the inning? Leadoff walk, missed opportunity on a pickoff, a hit batsmen. THen putting in Logan and Acosta instead of EOF and Soriano. Using a guy after a 22 day lay off in a critical game such as this in a critical situation is insane.
bravesgrl4life
September 18th, 2009
10:05 pm
McFann, our boy got it goin on!
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
10:05 pm
Choppinmama–
That was one of the funniest baseball-things ever! Wish the “Official Site” had a replay of it…
braves70
September 18th, 2009
10:05 pm
You were correct Wilson,. If Cox had not allowed Acosta to give up those 2 extra runs, we would be tied after McCann’s HR. O’l Bobby knows how to guarantee a loss in big game situations.
Choppinmama
September 18th, 2009
10:06 pm
Paisan: it seems as though we all “get religion” this time of the season lately, doesn’t it? So, it if takes the Nicene Creed, a couple of Our Fathers, or whatever works for you personally to move this team ahead, I’m for it ’cause just offense and defense ain’t working this year again.
Maybe it’s about time to strap on the ol’ leotards………..
DOB: see it you can get them to add the rally ‘tards to the Hello Kitty backpack ensemble.
brian
September 18th, 2009
10:06 pm
If Omar had not backed away there was a lot better chance it would be 2-0
richbrave
September 18th, 2009
10:06 pm
Enter your comments here. O.K. we’re even up on the HR’s and RBI’s with HOWARD. For Christ’s sake don’t pitch to him again in this game. Shouldn’t have done so last time.
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
10:07 pm
Man I remember everyone saying that Infante was gonna be the savior of the AWfense when he was on the DL
He has been silent since he came back due to the fact that he needed 2 weeks to get used to ML caliber pitching…
brian
September 18th, 2009
10:07 pm
have to hold the Phils scoreless here bullpen. C’mon
brian
September 18th, 2009
10:07 pm
anybody feeling the Norton to pinch hit in the bottom of the 9th vibe right now???
Greg Norton
September 18th, 2009
10:08 pm
Let me grab a bat, I’m first up in the ninth !
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
10:08 pm
bravesgrl4life–
Oh yeah!!
And you look back at August and you cann really tell he was struggling–I mean, he could hardly even hit the Fillies (though he did hit a 2-run HR off Hamels). Now, however, he is back on track.
Wish they were winning, though.
uga-brave
September 18th, 2009
10:08 pm
after perusing the blog this evening i thing we have a winner. mitchell for MVN. most valuable numbletard.
O.J.
September 18th, 2009
10:08 pm
What is a 3-1 deceit?
Mark
September 18th, 2009
10:09 pm
It’s amazing how we choke in big games!
brian
September 18th, 2009
10:09 pm
richbrave – I agree. If there is anyone on base – pitch around Howard. If bases are empty and game is tied, pitch around howard. Howard has killed the Braves this year and deserves the “Barry Bonds” treatment of a lot of walks
richbrave
September 18th, 2009
10:09 pm
Enter your comments here. Fans, he can’t keep using up O’FLAHERTY, MOYLAN, GONZO, and MFIKY almost every game. They gotta’ get a break sometime. This is it.
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks and Bobby Cox has it out for Escobar
September 18th, 2009
10:09 pm
a must win game and our pitchers include Medlen, Logan, Acosta, and Nunez.
brian
September 18th, 2009
10:09 pm
Acosta – look at your replacement for next year – he is pitching currently
Ronald Millsaps
September 18th, 2009
10:10 pm
A fine example of where I fault Bobby: He brings in the inexperienced, underdeveloped Kris Medlen when he has better options to choose from— in a critical game.
Not insulting Medlen. Not saying the man doesn’t have a bright future. He just wasn’t the right guy to go to at that point.
To answer Dave O’Brien’s very-exciting and very-inspiring question, yes, I think the Braves can do it!
Mike J
September 18th, 2009
10:10 pm
I love how Bobby picks these games to give some of our regular bullpen guys some rest. Watch tomorrow he will give Bmac a day off tomorrow now that he is hitting well.
philly fan doc
September 18th, 2009
10:10 pm
Enter your comments here
SoWega Fanatic
September 18th, 2009
10:10 pm
Remember how nice the blog was when the band wagon jumpers had jumped off? Well, they’re back, pissing and moaning again.
Wilson
September 18th, 2009
10:11 pm
Glad McCann came through for us and tied the game up!! Wait, what? Nevermind….
The Abs Man
September 18th, 2009
10:11 pm
a 3-1 deficient. Me bad. But not as bad as Cox.
philly fan doc
September 18th, 2009
10:11 pm
You people really think you can beat us????
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
10:11 pm
“THen putting in Logan and Acosta instead of EOF and Soriano.”
Gonzo is hurt and EOF worked two straight days. Third day probably would have meant not as much control. Logan for a lefty looked like the only choice. Not saying Bobby is perfect. Just saying the lefty situation was a little shaky to begin the game. I unlike most posters don’t fall into one of the two categories where you either hate Bobby or love him. I take it the way I see it, he’s not God but he ain’t satan either.
brian
September 18th, 2009
10:11 pm
Nunez – good chance to start earning your spot in the bullpen next year
richbrave
September 18th, 2009
10:11 pm
Enter your comments here. We can do this. Let’s win. It beats losin’.
Soph
September 18th, 2009
10:12 pm
Remember how nice the blog was when the band wagon jumpers had jumped off? Well, they’re back, pissing and moaning again.
Ahhh, memories. You’re right though.
Roman Gal
September 18th, 2009
10:13 pm
I have to admit, it’ll make me very happy when the Rangers are eliminated.
brian
September 18th, 2009
10:13 pm
Jake – maybe EOF should not have been used in the bigger wins over the Muts and just used in the 6-5 game. Cox wastes pitchers in blow out games then they are not available when you need them.
The Abs Man
September 18th, 2009
10:13 pm
Fans, avid fans, long-time knowledgeable patrons know when Cox screws up.
As in bringing in the bottom of the bullpen in a must-win game.
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
10:13 pm
richbrave – hey, buddy, you need to delete ‘enter your comments here’ before you type your post – not working as usual
SouthernBelleBrave
September 18th, 2009
10:13 pm
Way to go BMac!!!
Think they can pull off a 9th inning win tonight if they can hold the Phils to a 2 run lead right here?
O.J.
September 18th, 2009
10:13 pm
Ummm, Moylan last pitched 2 days ago, so I am sure he was available today, Bobby should have definitely used him with that bases loaded situation instead of Acostus.
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
10:13 pm
I f***ing hate this guy.
Come on Braves reliever.
brian
September 18th, 2009
10:14 pm
I have less problems with Boone logan than I do with Acosta.
philly fan doc
September 18th, 2009
10:14 pm
Not going to happen this weekend. Your team isn’t the teams of the 90’s…………………… On a good note. Skynyrds new album will be out in 11 days.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
10:14 pm
Just got home…and I want it noted that between the bottom of the 8th and now I shaved my beard. So if the Braves rally, we’ll know why.
bravesgrl4life
September 18th, 2009
10:14 pm
How old is Stairs? He looks old enough to be my uncle and I’m 37 for cryin out loud.
brian
September 18th, 2009
10:15 pm
thanks OJ – I agree – The acosta move was suspect. Acosta has been terrible this year
philly fan doc
September 18th, 2009
10:15 pm
43.
richbrave
September 18th, 2009
10:15 pm
Enter your comments here. Alright VLAD the IMPALER. CUBANO, let’s get that DP.
The Abs Man
September 18th, 2009
10:15 pm
Good thing Soriano had some work last night beating Mets, 7-2.
Not as if you MIGHT NEED HIM THIS weekend.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
10:15 pm
Since I like all of you, 25 cents a pop. For jeffrey, $1.00.
Ugh, Dacoooola won. jeffrey must be celebrating.
Well I’m sure feeling the love tonight.
brian
September 18th, 2009
10:16 pm
jeffrey D – what do you have to shave to stop the walks?
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
10:16 pm
Wonderful.
SouthernBelleBrave
September 18th, 2009
10:16 pm
Dangit!!!!! Back to back freakin’ walks??!?!!
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
10:16 pm
Nunez, Come On!!!
The Abs Man
September 18th, 2009
10:16 pm
Vladmir Nunez into 5-3 game.
What not Vladimir Putin?
Would be just as effective.
O.J.
September 18th, 2009
10:16 pm
Great, top of the lineup is back in there. Can this get any worse?
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
10:17 pm
Beards/turtles only affect offense
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
10:17 pm
Game Over!!!
F U Bobby!!!
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
10:17 pm
Send in Mahoney
SouthernBelleBrave
September 18th, 2009
10:17 pm
Son of a b*tch!!!!!!!!
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
10:17 pm
Now I know how the fans of other teams feel when their pitchers walk Greg Norton.
Nick
September 18th, 2009
10:17 pm
Our bullpen sucks.
brian
September 18th, 2009
10:17 pm
2 walks and a HR after the Braves cut it to 2 with Lidge coming in. Unbelievable. Bullpen has been awful today.
nycbravesfan
September 18th, 2009
10:17 pm
great job bobby.
bravesgrl4life
September 18th, 2009
10:18 pm
Nope, it’s over. Well, guys, it’s been fun most of the time. Good night, all.
SouthernBelleBrave
September 18th, 2009
10:18 pm
Nail in the coffin….
Mike J
September 18th, 2009
10:18 pm
Can this team and more importantly that lard a$$ of a manager be any more pathetic?
McFann Ô
September 18th, 2009
10:18 pm
I despise the Fillies with a very deep passion…
Danga
September 18th, 2009
10:18 pm
We ain’t playin the Mets anymore.
ryan
September 18th, 2009
10:18 pm
FIRE COX and throw Chip Carey out of the booth Fire COX
curtis jones
September 18th, 2009
10:18 pm
Well, this was a meaningless, throwaway game anyway with no importance to the Braves. At least that’s the way the HOF manager saw it. Let’s give our JV guys some work, right Donk?
bravesgirlnc
September 18th, 2009
10:18 pm
Defending World champs…meet the 2009 Atlanta Braves
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
10:18 pm
This is Pathetic!!!
Now we are Getting Clowned!!!
SouthernBelleBrave
September 18th, 2009
10:18 pm
Guess they figure they are done now, so why not give up a couple more homers?!?
Mike J
September 18th, 2009
10:18 pm
WTF IS BOBBY DOING…IS HE ASLEEP?
brian
September 18th, 2009
10:18 pm
well Manny – I guess the position in the bullpen is still open – Nunez not exactly claiming his spot today
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
10:19 pm
We really need to find out what Terry Forster is doing these days.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
10:19 pm
Nevermind…looks like Mahoney’s already in.
The Abs Man
September 18th, 2009
10:19 pm
Now Bobby won’t have Norton to use with two on in case it was 5-3 game.
nycbravesfan
September 18th, 2009
10:19 pm
this calls for drinking.. over and out everybody have fun tonight and
WAR EAGLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tomahawk Choppers
September 18th, 2009
10:19 pm
I do believe someone just let the air out of my balloon
Innocent Bystander
September 18th, 2009
10:19 pm
Guess we won’t be winning our final 23 games after all…
philly fan doc
September 18th, 2009
10:19 pm
Long Drive Jimmy Rollins ….. that balls outta here!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go to bed Braves fans. Just go Saturday take the little woman out to your favorite watering hole. Cause we got Pedro Martinez tomorrow……….. Long Drive Fransico………. That balls …………..Outta here!!!!!!!!
curtis jones
September 18th, 2009
10:19 pm
Where have we been hiding this Nunez guy? So…HOF manager doesn’t throw him against the Mets and Reds…we save him for the Phils. No wonder Donk is headed to Cooperstown!
McFann Ô
September 18th, 2009
10:20 pm
SouthernBelleBrave Think they can pull off a 9th inning win tonight if they can hold the Phils to a 2 run lead right here?
Soph
September 18th, 2009
10:20 pm
I need a Mountain Dew.
O.J.
September 18th, 2009
10:20 pm
WTF, I am sure there are other pitchers in the pen that could do a better job than these clowns.
richbrave
September 18th, 2009
10:20 pm
Well, the big CUBAN’s second and last chance of making the club is over.
curtis jones
September 18th, 2009
10:20 pm
Hey we’re still in this one: HOF manager has the ghost of Buddy Carlyle warming up!
brian
September 18th, 2009
10:20 pm
I wonder if Bobby is taking notes from the Phillies. Closer up in the pen. Lead is extended to where it is not a save situation. Sit closer down to not waste him.
SouthernBelleBrave
September 18th, 2009
10:20 pm
Can’t wait for college football tomorrow…its bound to better than this crap! Goodnight all.
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
10:20 pm
Watch Philly sign Gonzo and/or Soriano this off-season.
And we’ll be left with Nunez, Acosta, Bang & Ohlufsen, My Little Pony.
Danga
September 18th, 2009
10:21 pm
Pft…Norton could hit a 7 run homer.
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
10:21 pm
nothing to see here…everybody go home…
brian
September 18th, 2009
10:21 pm
soph – I would need something in that Mountain Dew
The Abs Man
September 18th, 2009
10:21 pm
Can anyone honestly watching this parade of bottom feeders of bullpen rationalize Bobby Cox deserves a mental exam?
O.J.
September 18th, 2009
10:21 pm
Well, now i am done, going to go play MLB 2K9, maybe then the Braves will beat the stupid Phaggies for once.
JayDubu
September 18th, 2009
10:21 pm
Why couldn’t Chipper just get one may daus rest….to keep the winning streak going!!
philly fan doc
September 18th, 2009
10:21 pm
@BravesgirlNC……. Meet your world Series Champion’s the Philadelphia Phillies.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
10:21 pm
Looks like I shaved for no reason.
That, and I’d like to not stay single forever.
Soph
September 18th, 2009
10:21 pm
This is not going to be the perfect sports weekend for me.
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
10:21 pm
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything quite like that.
Souvenirs for everyone tonight. Left and right.
What goes through Bobby’s head? Maybe he’s not eating right.
How about one more Mr. Howard?
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
10:21 pm
brian
So let me get this right, Bobby is right when he decides to bench Esco for something that everyone on this team outside of Matt Diaz does but he is wrong when he uses EOF and others in the bullpen because it obvious you can’t trust anyone else outside of the people named Gonzo, Soriano, EOF, and Moylan. You related to Bobby because you may not agree with him this time but your mode of thinking is just like him. Two peas in a pod.
braves70
September 18th, 2009
10:21 pm
Thank you all for coming. Cox the amazing is happy to have disappointed us all yet again as he snatches defeat from the jaws of victory. Com again, Cox the amazing is always here….. unfortunately.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
10:21 pm
That OR MAYBE BECAUSE I’d like to not stay single forever**
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
10:22 pm
The team is resilient. The manager operates on cruise control.
brian
September 18th, 2009
10:22 pm
odds of Braves coming back from a 6 run deficit in the bottom of the 9th knowing that Norton will be coming to bat???
Mike J
September 18th, 2009
10:22 pm
I have always been a Cox supporter, but this year he has changed my mind. He has lost it and is now hurting this team instead of helping. He no longer knows how to properly motivate players and our lack of top talent makes his misuse of the bullpen and poor in game decisions debilitating.
brian
September 18th, 2009
10:22 pm
Jeffrey D – think hockey. No more shaving until the Braves are officially eliminated
philly fan doc
September 18th, 2009
10:23 pm
Hey, that Miami game was good last night.
curtis jones
September 18th, 2009
10:23 pm
I got an idea. Put blindfolds on Chipper, Manny Acosta, the HOF manager and Chip Caray. Spin ‘em around a few times, drop ‘em off in the ‘hood about a half-mile from the Ted, and make them find their way back.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
10:24 pm
Too late for that, brian.
The beard saw a 5 game losing streak and a 7 game winning streak, so I don’t think it had any mystical powers. Unless we rally in the 9th. Then I’ll keep talking about it until you guys kick me out.
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
10:24 pm
philly fan doc
OMG, philly fan way to beat up on the Gwinnett Braves. Unfortunatly for you they will not be making an appearance in this years playoffs. Seriously man, we are no threat to you at this point in the season. Get a life. I bet you boo’d that little girl in Philly for throwing the ball back. Just par for the course for your kind.
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
10:25 pm
Yeah, this board is just FULL of Tech fans. Way to get our goats, doc.
Meanwhile, we may have found a use for Nunez.
Mike J
September 18th, 2009
10:25 pm
does he try to be stupid. He will throw Moylan, Gonzo, and Soriano out there night after night. Even on nights that we are either getting blown out or winning by many runs. Yet when it really counts and can matter, he chooses Nunez, Acosta, and Logan? What a dumba$$.
philly fan doc
September 18th, 2009
10:25 pm
I’m out, we won/winning. see you saturday.
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
10:26 pm
philly fan doc,
How many wins do you have against us now? 6?
No, I think we’re looking at 7 now… so techincally 6.
We have 9.
Kelly's Johnson
September 18th, 2009
10:26 pm
A serious question….Will Escobar be with the Braves next year?…The mere fact that I can ask that question SERIOUSLY…about such a talented, young, inexpensive player…is indeed a sad situation.
Soph
September 18th, 2009
10:26 pm
I heart Loaf. I really do.
philly fan doc
September 18th, 2009
10:26 pm
@Jake. Having a school holiday??????
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
10:27 pm
By the way, Gonzo not telling the team about his bad back, may have contributed to tonight’s collapse.
He sits that night, gets his two days, and maybe he’s available tonight.
Instead, we get some Newnez guy.
Soph
September 18th, 2009
10:27 pm
I mean look at that hustle.
bwash21
September 18th, 2009
10:27 pm
Money off the board next year:
Hudson 15.5M
Soriano 6.35M
Gonzalez 3.45M
Kotchman 2.885M – his $ and not Laroche are being paid now
Anderson 2.5M
Norton 800k – there’s no way! Right?
K.Johnson 2.825
That’s $34,310,000 off the books.
I don’t know what built in raises are coming up but here’s a guess for replacements.
Replace with:
Konerko 12M (the following yr, Freeman 400k)
Figgins 9M (3 yrs, 27M)
Kevin Gregg RP 2.5M?
Gonzalez or Joe Beimel or Scott Eyre
Heyward 400k
Other FA decent bullpen options:
Will Ohman (again)
Chad Cordero (can he be healthy again?)
Chad Bradford
Gary Majewski
curtis jones
September 18th, 2009
10:28 pm
Chipper Jones looks more and more like “Johnny Drama” on Entourage. Although Drama can still catch up with the fastball.
brian
September 18th, 2009
10:28 pm
nice try to get a personal shot in there Jake. I said that Escobar deserves to be disciplined but I disagreed with benching him in this game because it punishes the team in addition to Escobar (and that it adds to Wren’s decisions in the offseason if Escobar’s attitude has become that bad).
I also said that Cox was wrong to use EOF, Soriano, etc in games where the Braves are well ahead – such as a 7-3 win or other blow outs because it could keep them from being available when they are needed the most.
That is nothing similar to your attempted slam and misstatements above.
If the only way you can make arguments is trying to slam someone personally, you need to work on your debating skills
ryan
September 18th, 2009
10:29 pm
FIRE COX
Soph
September 18th, 2009
10:29 pm
It’s gonna be fun on here tonight.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
10:29 pm
hmm, Norton must be sick.
brian
September 18th, 2009
10:29 pm
keep the hits coming guys.
Brooks Conrad instead of Norton??? I am floored
CameronC
September 18th, 2009
10:30 pm
5-4 looks like we might pull this out.. oh.. wait.. nevermind
philly fan doc
September 18th, 2009
10:30 pm
@mitch……… Whats your record?? The Mets were the same last year. we were 4out of 6 last year vs the mets at the end of the season. Guess the cream rises to the top when you have to win. IN SEPT. Thats when you have to win,right??
Just nice that the Phils are winning after ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL those divisions you guys had.
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
10:30 pm
I still hate Matt Diaz.
Occasionally he gets a break but I wll always hate him. I can’t help it.
Danga
September 18th, 2009
10:30 pm
Brooks Conrad sighting!
Soph
September 18th, 2009
10:30 pm
Too bad I didn’t pull up RHR’s bingo card tonight. Betcha I would’ve gotten it too.
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
10:31 pm
philly fan doc
How about this, face reality. This postseason there is better competition out there. No young Tampa Bay Rays to beat up on this year. The Yankees and their billion dollar boys club or more experienced and pose a much bigger threat than the feel good rays. Cardinals are sporting a balanced team and if the Giants make it, good luck against those young guns. Now be gone. We prefer intelligent talk if you are going to be rooting for the other team, not this petty stuff.
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
10:32 pm
Who is @mitch?
That’s not my name.
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
10:32 pm
Howard has three two-homer nights in his past five games against them, all since the middle of August.
He has seven homers and 12 RBIs in his past seven games against the Braves, and a .342 average with 31 homers and 85 RBIs in 82 career games against them.
SouthernBelleBrave
September 18th, 2009
10:32 pm
End of game….9-4. Sucks!
RHR
September 18th, 2009
10:32 pm
Watch Philly sign Gonzo and/or Soriano this off-season.
And we’ll be left with Nunez, Acosta, Bang & Ohlufsen, My Little Pony.
uga-brave
September 18th, 2009
10:33 pm
chipper does look like johnny drama. nice catch curtis.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
10:33 pm
Looks like Ryan will be naming his kid Turner
bigrob97
September 18th, 2009
10:34 pm
Philly fan go home,jackass
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
10:34 pm
I like the Idea of bringing Chone Figgins in for next year…This team needs speed Bad!!!
brian
September 18th, 2009
10:34 pm
Jake – the Phils are champs until they are knocked out. No other way of looking at it. They have a better line up and better starters than last year. Only weakness is that bullpen. Cards have shown their weakness as they have been shut down lately. Giants can’t hit. dodgers are in a dive. Rockies may be the most serious challengers in the NL. Of course who would have thought the Cards would have won the World Series a few years ago when they limped in with a .500 record?
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
10:35 pm
Bobby Cox in no way deserves to leave on his own terms.
He should be fired before the season ends. He is a failure.
We can’t accept mediocrity. The Braves lack a committment to winning.
a643dp
September 18th, 2009
10:36 pm
Can we bench Bobby for being a complete idiot. He isnt running……. hell he hasnt run the team correctly since 04.
Danga
September 18th, 2009
10:37 pm
It always was a long shot guys. Now it is a bit longer, but tomorrow we have Javy going. 2/3 wouldn’t be bad against a team as good as the Phils.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
10:37 pm
Well the beard shaving was good for one run.
curtis jones
September 18th, 2009
10:37 pm
Oh well, it wasn’t a total loss. It was Chip Caray’s last game. Of the season anyway. With our luck, he’ll be back, just like Donk next year.
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
10:37 pm
Man the Phillies have owned us during the second half after we owned them during the 1st half…
I much rather see the balanced schedule back…
ChurchMan
September 18th, 2009
10:38 pm
Reason 88 as the why the braves (still) will not make the playoffs: the weak end (ie. the greg nortons) of the bullpen.
JayDubu
September 18th, 2009
10:38 pm
Is Cox trying to win games, or make sure that everyone in the bullpen gets in the game?
When he has games in which he can put some of those pitchers in, he sticks with Petey, Gonzo, & Sori.
Soph
September 18th, 2009
10:39 pm
Not as bad as I thought it was going to be. Or, I’ve gotten used to it.
philly fan doc
September 18th, 2009
10:39 pm
@jake………… Did i get personel with you Pal???? Are you sore that I can come here and post???? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
In the Playoffs it doesn’t matter how good you were in the season, it’s whos hot going into the Playoffs
. Look at the Rookie’s two years ago.Hot team rolled everyteam in the Nat’l League playoffs. As for the Cards, Dodgers,and Rookies this year?? We owned the cards this year. And slpit with the Dodgers and Rookie’s. What wins Pennants???
Pitching and Defense.
You face reality.
I know my teams going to get to the Nat’l League Finals.
Your team will be golfing in two weeks.
McFann Ô
September 18th, 2009
10:39 pm
Dear Fillies,
http://www.itsnature.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/alligator-snapping-turtle.jpg
Sincerely not yours,
McFang
uga-brave
September 18th, 2009
10:40 pm
mitchell i very rarely call out other bloggers, there is no point of doing it but you my friend make a numbletard look like a mensa member.
philly fan doc
September 18th, 2009
10:40 pm
Make me BIGROB.
richbrave
September 18th, 2009
10:41 pm
Cox may as well empty the bull-pen. I mean, when the horse is already out of the barn, why close the door with your GOOD reliefers. Didn’t figure to take three from PHILLY and don’t have to, but can’t lose another to them. Must wins next two games. And please quit pitching to HOWARD. Just put him on. Heck, I’d even walk in a run if the bases were juiced.
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
10:42 pm
Sorry brian, it makes perfect sense what I said. You are saying bobby is right for providing unequal treatment to one player and not others. You said he was right because Esco should have been hustling, well shouldn’t they all? Its the same argument because you are saying he should not have used EOF and saved him, well he does save his starters, doesn’t really seem to care about his bullpen and their arms falling off. Correct me if i’m wrong but that is bobby cox once again providing a different kind of treatment for one while not for the others.
To put it straight, he benches Esco for not hustling but no one else is benched for the same “crime”. He worries about his starters innings and pulls them when they are cruising, but not the inning piling up on his obviously tired bullpen arms. Its the same mode of thinking whether you want to admit it or not. He is doing one thing in one situation for this player and not for the other
Oh and sorry if I hurt your feelings. I don’t call names but I guess calling someone two peas in a pod is offending to you or maybe its just a “slam” like you said. My debating skills are just fine by the way, maybe its your reading skills that need a little help….
Soph
September 18th, 2009
10:42 pm
Rookies?
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
10:43 pm
Well, the only bright side I see is this . . .
We might have a very fresh Gonzo, Soriano, and Moylan the next 2 days.
Let’s win 2. Yes, I know, 5.5 out is coming fast. Nonetheless. All we can do is win tomorrow, and go from there.
philly fan doc
September 18th, 2009
10:43 pm
My bad…. spell check Rockie’s
Chop Chop
September 18th, 2009
10:44 pm
I gotta admit that I like the Phils. I don’t like their late-inning bullpen guys at all, but I like that team.
Dumbfound
September 18th, 2009
10:44 pm
How would you feel phiily fan if the braves got in as the wild card ?! Don’t count your chickens before they hatch !! When philly leaves here, they have to go to florida and the marlins have owned them ! It ain’t over !!
richbrave
September 18th, 2009
10:45 pm
MITCHELL:
What has you done gone and did? You has made uga-brave real upset. I see’d them thar’ tumble-bugs, but ain’t never heer’d of no mensa-bug. What ar’ that?
Soph
September 18th, 2009
10:45 pm
I’m not falling for it Chop Chop! Nu uh.
Ronald Millsaps
September 18th, 2009
10:45 pm
Bobby’s decisions not to use Moylan, Gonzalez, and/or Soriano late in games where Atlanta trails lies atop the false premise that these guys are basically only proper to turn to when you have the lead. If Bobby uses the right personnel tonight, Atlanta probably ties the game in the ninth.
You cannot categorize yourself in a game and think the immediate score symbolizes the entire nine innings. You have to give it your all for that entire time, as opposed to putting the onus entirely on your offense when you face a deficit and making no urgent effort to keep it what it is.
Logan
September 18th, 2009
10:46 pm
Is this that moment in time when DOB asks Hudson if he thinks Griffey could have tracked down either of those fly balls hit by Howard?
curtis jones
September 18th, 2009
10:46 pm
The long overdue column the AJC writers won’t write: “Thanks Bobby, But It’s Time To Go”
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
10:46 pm
“the Phils are champs until they are knocked out.”- brian
Did I say they weren’t, I just said it looks like they will be facing some better competition this year.
To the philly fan, its not personal, its baseball talk. Yankees are a much bigger beast than what the Rays posed if you make it to the world series again this year and even before tonight I liked the Cards. I’m not saying you guys are going to lose to them, just saying from the looks of things right now you guys will be facing a little tougher competition this year. Much harder to repeat than to win the first time.
fastasballs
September 18th, 2009
10:47 pm
Well nothing positive about tonight’s game. Like the rest of you I see no sense in pitching to Howard. Pitch around him, IBB or just hit him, really doesn’t matter to me as long as he doesn’t see another strike for two more games.
The Braves offense did little to help matters. Pulling Escobar was stupid IMO, just sends a message to the team that the manager is more concerned with petty things than trying to win the game. It probably had little to do with the outcome, but that’s my take on it.
The rest of the team besides Diaz does their share of loafing to first on those routine plays so why pull him at this point in time? It solves nothing & it doesn’t do a damn thing to win the game. Take him down the tunnel & ram his glove where the sun doesn’t shine, but send him back out because he gives you the best chance to win.
Soph
September 18th, 2009
10:48 pm
I wish Meadowcreek won. It would’ve made me feel a million times better. Just once.
ryan
September 18th, 2009
10:48 pm
14 division titles in row 1 world series now 4 years no playoffs.FIRE THAT LOSER COX
Chop Chop
September 18th, 2009
10:49 pm
I really do like the Phils, Soph.
Ross
September 18th, 2009
10:50 pm
You can cut this up as you like but the facts are that baseball is about more than numbers. There is team chemistry. Chipper Jones is the sulfuric acid of team chemistry. He’s chlorine gas for morale. They are not the same team with this preening drama queen in the game. I wouldn’t want to be in the same infield as LaRoche and Jones, and I don’t care if both of them are hitting .500. I want to win and have fun, not attend a funeral for baseball every night. Cox may not be the swiftest boat in the water but having Jones and LaRoche on the corners is like something out of Ghostbusters.
-drl
McFann Ô
September 18th, 2009
10:50 pm
Chop Chop–
Dangit! You oughta be banned for saying such a thing…
Night, y’all.
Dumbfound
September 18th, 2009
10:52 pm
YD.ou are right Ronald ! Even Ray Charles can see that ! I would venture to say if the braves get the wild card, if the phillies get pass the first run(and that’s a big if) the game between the phillies and the braves would be different ! I take the braves 1.T. Hanson 2. J. Jurrgens 3. J. Vazquez 4.D. Lowe over anybody !!
Soph
September 18th, 2009
10:54 pm
Night, McFann!
RHR (Not MY first day on the blog)
September 18th, 2009
10:55 pm
Atlanta Braves with David O’Brien
Do you think Braves can do it?
3:29 pm September 18, 2009, by David O’Brien
RHR
September 18th, 2009
3:48 pm
Now that you wrote about it? Not a chance in hell.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
3:49 pm
In fact, I may just go ahead and issue the earliest ever….
Ballgame!
RHR
September 18th, 2009
3:49 pm
Season!
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
10:55 pm
I really do wish Bobby would leave so everyone can express his appreciation for him and the organization can move forward.
He is tarnishing his legacy in these last few years.
I will say this, though. He has overseen this team through a large payroll reduction and re-work, including a pretty ugly bottoming out period that appears to have ended earlier this summer.
Perhaps we are on the cusp of something big. I think we have a shot. But, I am in now way convinced that Bobby Cox deserves to be the one to lead us to that next step.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
10:55 pm
I wish Meadowcreek won. It would’ve made me feel a million times better. Just once.
Suckers…
richbrave
September 18th, 2009
10:56 pm
Hasta manana.
Chop Chop
September 18th, 2009
10:57 pm
From a concerned Braves fan:
By my fraudulent calcuations, Chipper Jones’ cowardice has cost the Braves at least 35 games this season. I could name the 35 games, but why should I provide proof for something that I know is a fact? I shouldn’t, therefore, he’s cost us 35 games and no one could ever prove me wrong.
Chipper, why do you insist upon costing us so many games?
Money.
You are a money-grubbing, scrap-less, gutless, grit-less sieve of an Eckstein. In fact, you are not even fit to be compared to an Eckstein. Please quit baseball and let Brooks Conrad take his rightful place as leader of the future six consecutive World Series championship-winning Atlanta Braves.
Thank you.
Soph
September 18th, 2009
10:57 pm
I’m the good luck charm. My senior year, each game I went to – we won. I need to go back and pass the magic again.
Soph
September 18th, 2009
10:58 pm
There’s the Chop Chop we know and love.
Dumbfound
September 18th, 2009
11:00 pm
4-1 Rockies in the fourth. Plenty of innings left. 1-1 Dodgers and plenty of innings left.
Cox Truths
September 18th, 2009
11:00 pm
1. Cox wont come back if Escobar returns..he’s using his fickleness over returning as leverage to get the team he wants which means Esco must go.
2. Cox wont bat LaRoche cleanup because he wants to keep Adam’s RBI’s down so he can resign him more cheaply in the offseason. RBI’s are like gold to a slugging first baseman.
3. Cox wont play Kelly Johnson because Kelly struggles batting at the top of the order which is where Cox wants Kelly to play.
4. Cox is going to be able to create his own statue out of the buggers he’s collected during his tenure with the Braves.
Kentavo
September 18th, 2009
11:01 pm
Questions I’d love to ask Booby:
1. Why was the team’s leading HR hitter in the 8 hole?
2. Why can’t you get the “others” in the pen some more regular work instead of burning out the Big 4 and then when forced to bring in Huey, Louie and Dewie they look like deer in the headlights?
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
11:02 pm
For so many people who bust Loaf and others for not hustling, I’m surprised at all the hate Bobby’s getting for benching Escobar.
Steve from OH
September 18th, 2009
11:02 pm
Chop Chop:
Thank you for finally finding the sense of urgency to call Chipper yellow from the privacy and anonymity of your own home. Kudos, my man.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
11:03 pm
Actually, I’m not surprised. Bobby gets blamed for rain delays on here.
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
11:03 pm
D’backs comeback!
I would be tickled pink to wake up tomorrow still only 4.5 games back.
Would give me at least one more opportunity to get really angry when Ryan Howard goes yard 2x, and bobby picks his nose and yells at Escobar.
Chop Chop
September 18th, 2009
11:04 pm
I’m actually in the privacy of my refigerator box. I call it my “summer cottage,” Steve.
Dumbfound
September 18th, 2009
11:04 pm
Diamondbacks just tied the game 4-4. It ain’t over !!
The Abs Man
September 18th, 2009
11:05 pm
Busting Escobar for not hustling is correct. As much as Cox is 100% wrong with his bullpen choices tonight, Escobar deserves to be fined.
But what about Garret Anderson? Escobar looks like a Marine in basic training compared to Gerret.
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
11:05 pm
“For so many people who bust Loaf and others for not hustling, I’m surprised at all the hate Bobby’s getting for benching Escobar.”
jeffery,
that’s point. those making the argument question why Loaf, Chip, others, get a “free pass” when they appear to loaf, while Escy gets jerked in the “biggest game of the year”.
that’s the argument. I’m not saying it’s mine. But, that’s the argument.
they are arguing that cox is inconsistent.
Chop Chop
September 18th, 2009
11:05 pm
That’s my new spelling of “refrigerator.”
Thought I’d break it out on a Friday night. No one pays attention on nights like this, so why not send up a trial balloon?
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
11:05 pm
Fresno-Boise = great game.
The A Bomb
September 18th, 2009
11:06 pm
Seriously, with Gonzalez and Soriano free agents. . .
WHO IN THE HECK IS GOING TO WANT TO SIGN WITH A TEAM THAT RIDES ITS RELIEF PITCHERS LIKE RENTED MULES?
Damage control — get Bobby a gold watch, arrange his pension and teach him how to play bridge.
What was that tonight? Only thing I saw tonight that was decent was Logan — finally a pitcher with enough sack to plunk Howard. Poor Acosta is a human target and Vladimir oughtta try out for the Russian World Baseball Classic team.
Steve from OH
September 18th, 2009
11:06 pm
Chop Chop–oh, you have a summer place? You’re movin’ up in the world, sir. Congratulations. Alas, I have only a single dumpster I must inhabit year-round.
Dumbfound
September 18th, 2009
11:07 pm
Where did the philly fan go ?! Could he possible believe it ain’t over ?!
Rock On......
September 18th, 2009
11:07 pm
Frankly, expected the loss tonight. Hudson was a crap shoot chance at best anyway. Looking at the boxscore I have to assume Escobar got hurt? If so hope it isn’t serious. Also as I mentioned this afternoon about using 7 pitchers? Just sayin….and exactly who was mentioning that Medlen may provide an emergencty start if needed in 2010? Oh yeah that was me. Never mind.
richbrave….yep I would intentionally walk Howard every single time up. You betcha. 7 homers in the last 7 games against us with a .600+ slugging %, why not?
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
11:09 pm
No, the complaints I saw called Bobby a moron for benching the hottest hitter.
Dumbfound
September 18th, 2009
11:10 pm
Dodgers not helping, but i have faith in them they will come back. They are too good.
Count Chocula
September 18th, 2009
11:11 pm
Jeffrey d…what does Cox exactly do with anderson for not hustling???absolutely nothing!! despite looking careless and like a old man in a wheelchair..Esco gets benched for games..”G.Andy” is safe in Cox’s House..
Rock On......
September 18th, 2009
11:13 pm
OK, didn’t see the game and haven’t a clue about the Escobar incident. Did Bobby get all pissy at Esco? What gives there?
Steve from OH
September 18th, 2009
11:13 pm
I think Garret hustles, it just looks like he doesn’t because he’s old and slow.
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
11:14 pm
“that’s the argument. I’m not saying it’s mine. But, that’s the argument.they are arguing that cox is inconsistent.”
Is it even that bad of an argument though. If you are going to bench player A for not hustling shouldn’t you do the same thing to player B? I don’t think people are complaining with the message Bobby is sending to Esco, just rather he would take that hard line with all his players. Especially since its a message that should apply to all.
Also if you are going to moniter the innings of arms that have never seen this workload before at this level (i.e Hanson), shouldn’t you do the same for other arms in the same situation. Especially given that some of those bullpen arms are coming off some serious surgery and that Gonzo has never pitched this many innings before in his major league career. I think the most he has pitched is in the 50’s.
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
11:14 pm
Also, regarding Cox. I like to pay attention to actual quotes from people. Not just conjecture. Not opinion pieces. But, what people actually say.
A couple of year’s back, (maybe when cox filmed his special for SportSouth), Cox commented that when he left the game, he would really leave the game. As in, he might not come back to the ballpark for a long-time, because he would really need to get away.
That seemed pretty drastic to me, all things considered.
But this week, Cox has changed his tune a bit. Now he’s saying that if/when he retires, he’d like to come around some. Come to Spring Training, etc. That’s a nearly 180 degree turn from where he was just 1-2 years ago.
What does that tell me? It tells me that he realizes that he is probably not going to oversee another WS as manager of the Atlanta Braves, and this probably really will be his last season as manager. And additionally (and probably more on my point), he knows he can’t tolerate being completely away from the game (which may be part of the reason that he’s managed until he’s 68 year’s old), and because of that, he’s now taking some consolation in the fact that if he retires, he doesn’t have to just leave and be gone. He can stay around. He can go to spring training. He can visit the clubhouse. Who knows? He might even get an office at Turner Field (Heck, he can probably use Hank Aaron’s. I have no earthly idea what that guy does).
Anyway, that’s what I’m picking up from Cox. He’s preparing for his next move, and it’s not gonna be a disappearing act. He recognizes that he’s probably not manager much longer (2 more weeks?) but he is taking some solace in the fact that he can, and likely will, still be a part of this organization.
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
11:15 pm
Jake W.
I didn’t say it was a bad argument. In fact, I agree with the argument.
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
11:17 pm
jeffery d,
read more of the blog. there were a lot of gripes about the incident revealing a double-standard.
I doubt they’ve been deleted, unless Bobby is a part-time hacker/Wordpress expert.
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
11:17 pm
Brent a, I was more so agreeing with you, just used that particular quote to help with my point. Should have directed it at the guy who made the statement though to avoid the confusion.
NO MORE BOBBY
September 18th, 2009
11:18 pm
Do you think Braves can do it? – DOB
No. We are good but their are teams that are just better. One hot month does not make up for all the mistakes made through rest of the season. (Bobby and TP – cough cough)
That’s why when people were saying “it is still early” in July, I knew those losses would come back to haunt us in September. Now there is no room for losing. Tonight was no ones fault. Just loss to a better team (much better team).
One thing I did have a problem with is choice of Nunez in ninth. Guy has a 4.67 era and losing record against the Phils. Not a smart choice with momentum back on our side in eight inning.
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
11:18 pm
no problem, Jake.
Mike McDonald
September 18th, 2009
11:18 pm
Booby continues his reign of terror. Keeps playing tired, not-so-Chipper. Instead of fining Yunel for lack of hustle, he cuts off the Brave’s nose to spite the face by benching him in a crucial game and wasting an option, such as later benching the has-been Jones. Wonder how he punished Lowe for not speaking up sooner on his blister or Gonzo for hiding his pre-game sore back? Why is Diaz, who is hitting almost .500 against the Phillies, batting in the seven hole? Oh yes, in a two run, season-critical game, Booby brings in this Nunez guy to put the game completely out of reach.
Dave, knowing that you have a musical bent, I offer you and your avid readers this parody of a Cole classic. (Porter that is, not Hamels).
And so my dears, our Booby’s here to stay
Not for a year, but forever and a day.
The Rockies may crumble,
The Phillies may tumble,
They only play on clay…
But our Bobby is here to stay.
Chop Chop
September 18th, 2009
11:18 pm
TRANSACTIONS
Atlanta Braves – Bobby Cox retires as manager. Frank Wren announces Bobby Cox as minor league bunting and bullpen usage instructor.
Rock On......
September 18th, 2009
11:19 pm
Brent A….if I was a betting man I would say you are correct that you have about two more weeks to catch Cox in a Brave’s uniform.
Lou Vales
September 18th, 2009
11:21 pm
I realize it’s almost become hackneyed to reference “Groundhog Day” for moments like this, however, when I post on this Blog at 11:00PM and see the headline—Well, that strains credulity even for O’Brien. Some of you have defended these types of Blogs by saying “He doesn’t really believe it but he is just writing something”, at this point I would like anyone to hazard a guess as to what the man has on his mind. I guess it is the consensus that he is just throwing Kiffin against the wall, but REALLY, this has moved into the genre of “Noises Off” non-humor.
David, Stop It!! They really may take away your Baseball Writer’s privileges.
NO MORE BOBBY
September 18th, 2009
11:21 pm
jeffrey d – Actually, I’m not surprised. Bobby gets blamed for rain delays on here.
Funny but it is his fault. Did you not know this?
RHR
September 18th, 2009
11:22 pm
Chop Chop–oh, you have a summer place? You’re movin’ up in the world, sir. Congratulations. Alas, I have only a single dumpster I must inhabit year-round.
Damn Steve I didn’t know that. Let me send you a couple of the wolf shirts.
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
11:23 pm
don’t feed the trolls
Soph
September 18th, 2009
11:23 pm
RHR – if you’re still here, can you please post your bingo card again?
Roja
September 18th, 2009
11:24 pm
Even if the Phils sweep this series they will NOT have a winning year against the Braves. Currently we are 9-7 against them this year and there are only 2 left. Not bad for a team that has no manager, no power bat in the outfield, no bullpen and sorry excuses for closers.
Rock On......
September 18th, 2009
11:24 pm
What Is And What Should Never Be…….Rock On.
Steve from OH
September 18th, 2009
11:25 pm
Let me send you a couple of the wolf shirts.
Sweeet! I’ll have the most bitchin’ set of blinds in the neighborhood.
Rock On......
September 18th, 2009
11:27 pm
An old saying popped into my head that fits Cox perfectly and I will take it out on that note: ” the older I get the better I used to be”.
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
11:27 pm
“Even if the Phils sweep this series they will NOT have a winning year against the Braves. Currently we are 9-7 against them this year and there are only 2 left. Not bad for a team that has no manager, no power bat in the outfield, no bullpen and sorry excuses for closers.”
Yeah, those dog on closers killed us this year. Can’t imagine any team, especially the one we are playing, would want to take them off our hands at this point. To be honest, if they were not worn down they would probably be seen as one of the best setup and closing combo’s in the league. They are actually good, rather most want to believe it or not.
Dumbfound
September 18th, 2009
11:28 pm
Manny has brought the Dodgers within 1. 4-3 Giants.
Dumbfound
September 18th, 2009
11:30 pm
You have to feel good if the braves are still 4 out after tonight.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
11:31 pm
I’m here, Soph but the bingo card is on my laptop and I’m not.
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
11:31 pm
Oh, boy. I’m guessing, before looking at the ol’ blog the past couple hours, that there’s a bit of anger and frustration. Can’t say I blame you.
What a night to make an example out of Escobar, huh? I mean, I get that he’s gotta run hard and Bobby’s frustrated by the series of incidents and occasional “lapses” as Bobby put it, but that’s a tough one, pulling him tonight in such a big game over that incident. When I asked Cox if that was the reason he pulled Escobar, for not running hard, he was candid about it and said yes, it was.
Keeping him in might not have mattered much, not the way the Philllies lit up the bullpen and Howard took Hudson deep twice. Infante did ground into a double play after a McCann leadoff single in the sixth, but who knows what Escobar might have done….
It’s in the game story, but I’ll also tell you this here, too: Cox was resting Gonzo (sore back) and O’Flaherty, and said Moylan was going in if Braves tied or got a lead. When you think of some of those games when the Big 3 pitched with three- and four-run (or more?) leads earlier in the season….
As for Esco: Folks, let’s face it, Cox and other managers and coaches in other sports view old guys with bad wheels differently than in-their-prime dudes, and expect the latter to run out ground balls like that, etc. And really, that’s not too much to ask. Gotta do it, man.
Just don’t know that I would have pulled him for it in this particular game. Got in his face and shouted at him in the tunnel, yes. But pulled him in such a crucial game, when Braves can’t afford to lose many or almost any more? Tough call. But he wasn’t going to stand for it, obviously.
Anyway, here’s game story with quotes, unedited:
By David O’Brien
dobrien@ajc.com
Braves pitchers keep challenging Ryan Howard, and the Philadelphia slugger keeps punishing them for their temerity.
Howard blasted two homers off Tim Hudson to propel the Phillies to a 9-4 series-opening win Friday night at Turner Field, ending the Braves’ seven-game winning streak and almost any remaining hope of catching Philly in the East.
“Just couldn’t quite keep the big fella in the park,” said Hudson, who has given up five homers by Howard in the pitcher’s last three starts against the Phillies. “I made a couple of mistakes, and he didn’t miss ‘em.”
Martin Prado and Brian McCann homered for the Braves, but Howard’s blows put the Phillies ahead to stay. The Phillies added four runs in the ninth on consecutive homers by Jimmy Rollins and Ben Francisco off journeyman reliever Vladimir Nunez.
The Braves’ slim playoff hopes were dealt a blow, and shortstop Yunel Escobar was pulled from the game by Bobby Cox for not hustling on a groundout that ended the first inning, the latest incident where Escobar has run afoul of the manager.
“Just a lapse,” Cox said. “He just has lapses where I think he forgets.”
There were two runners on when Escobar grounded to second and failed to run hard from the batter’s box. The throw was wide and pulled Howard off first base, but he tagged Escobar well in front of the base.
When the Braves went out in the top of the third, Omar Infante was at shortstop. Cox said he waited an inning in order to give Infante time to loosen up, since Escobar had made the third out in the first.
He benched Escobar in a crucial game for Braves, who fell to 8-1/2 games behind the East-leading Phillies with only 15 games left, including two more in this weekend series. They can’t afford to lose almost any more.
Braves fans’ attention can now turn — if it wasn’t already — to the National League wild-card race. The Braves must reel in Colorado, which was 4-1/2 games ahead of Atlanta before Friday, and San Francisco, which was a game ahead.
Whatever the Braves’ scouting report says about Howard, they might want to consider revising it. His 40 homers this season include three two-homer nights in his past five games against Atlanta – all since the middle of August.
“We know what we’re doing with him, but he seems to get us almost every series,” Cox said of Howard, who has seven homers and 12 RBIs in his past seven games against the Braves, and a .342 average with 31 homers and 85 RBIs in 82 career games against them. “We make mistakes [against him].”
After Prado’s third-inning homer off J.A. Happ gave Atlanta a 1-0 lead, Howard answered with a two-run, two-out homer in the fourth, and a two-out homer in the sixth.
The Phillies scored two in the eighth after lefty Boone Logan hit Howard with a pitch to load the bases. The Braves trailed 5-1 before McCann’s two-out, two-run homer in the eighth.
Hudson, in his fourth game since returning from elbow surgery, was charged with three runs and six hits in seven innings, a quality start marred by the towering shots from Howard, who had a three-homer game against Hudson in 2006.
Of the late-innings meltdown, Cox said he rested lefties Mike Gonzalez and Eric O’Flaherty, and didn’t want to use Peter Moylan unless they tied or got a lead.
Heyward receives award
Manchild outfielder Jason Heyward picked up more hardware Friday when the Braves’ top prospect received his organizational player of the year award before the game.
The Henry County High grad, who turned 20 last month, played at three levels this season and hit a combined .323 with 46 extra-base hits (17 homers), 63 RBIs and a .963 on-base plus slugging percentage (OPS) in 99 games.
“It’s awesome,” Heyward said of the visit to Turner Field, where he and 15 other honored minor leaguers toured the clubhouse chatted up Braves during batting practice. “It’s a nice reward. You get to relax with everyone that had a great year, then sit back with the family and watch a baseball game.”
Greg Kimbrel was organizational pitcher of the year after posting a 2.85 ERA with 18 saves and 103 strikeouts in 60 innings with four Braves affiliates.
Heyward, named Baseball America’s minor league player of the year, began the season at high Class-A Myrtle Beach and finished at Class AAA Gwinnett County. He dominated at Class AA Mississippi, hitting .352 with a .446 on-base percentage, seven homers and 30 RBI in 47 games.
Heyward is headed to the prospect-laden Arizona Fall League next month, and is expected to compete for a major league job during spring training.
The Braves also honored a player and pitcher from each minor league affilate, including pitcher Mariano Gomez and first baseman Barbaro Canizares from Gwinnett.
monty
September 18th, 2009
11:38 pm
As I and one other blogger said before the game you just can’t afford to pitch to Howard with men on base and if you do you certainly can’t hang breakers out over the plate. 2 of the worst pitches I”ve ever seen Hudson throw. You could see the life drain out of everyone after that second bomb, totally demoralizing. They were beat mentally at that point, they had seen that script before. Howard against us is a baseball god. Just walk the dude and let someone else beat us for a change.
DAM
September 18th, 2009
11:38 pm
I’ve been a fan of Bobby for the last 5 years while everyone was calling for his head. He has officially lost me this year. I hope he chooses to retire and leave on his own terms because he certainly was a great manager, but he needs to be forced out if he won’t do it on his own.
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
11:43 pm
uga-brave
September 18th, 2009
10:40 pm
mitchell i very rarely call out other bloggers, there is no point of doing it but you my friend make a numbletard look like a mensa member.
Gee, if only I were smart enough to know what that meant.
Uga-brave, you have my respect for finally summoning the courage to speak truth to power. It had to be done, and you did… it.
Why doesn't Lou Vales pick on his own team's beat writer?
September 18th, 2009
11:44 pm
“It says that we’ve still got a chance,” said Dan Uggla, who drove in the tying run.
http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=290918117&teams=florida-marlins-vs-cincinnati-reds
Brett Carroll’s run-scoring double capped a four-run ninth, as the Florida Marlins kept their playoff hopes alive with a 4-3 win over the Cincinnati Reds in the second of four games at Great American Ball Park.
The win keeps Florida’s fledgling playoff hopes alive, as the team is now 4 1/2 games back of Colorado for the NL Wild Card spot with 14 games to play.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/baseball/story/1240971.html
After losing the first game of their series with the first-place Cardinals, the Marlins took the final two and headed off to Cincinnati brimming with confidence even though time is running out on them in the playoff races.
BY CLARK SPENCER
CSPENCER@MIAMIHERALD.COM
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/baseball/story/1237077.html
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
11:45 pm
Big shocker: Lou Vales returns after Braves lose for first time in a week. Who’d have ever predicted that….
Vales, do you grasp that the Braves entered tonight on a seven-game winning streak and trailing the wild-card leader by 4-1/2 games with 16 to go, when I wrote the blog? Can you wrap your brain around those facts? No? Oh, well, then keep spewing inane points about Hank Goldberg and other items of interest in South Florida and nowhere else, between taking shots at me and telling me to “stop it” writing about the Braves’ slim chances at making the playoffs.
glord1
September 18th, 2009
11:46 pm
Wow tonight was a weird game I was thinking as I was driving home from the park. I just don’t get Bobby. I dont know how he can burn out every decent reliever at the same time. I guess after watching his other bullpen guys throw tonight maybe thats why he only uses 4 guys.
I think Bobby is done after this year. The only thing that is more confusing than his coaching moves is listening to him explain them after the game.
monty
September 18th, 2009
11:47 pm
Would BC have pulled BMac for not bustng it? I don’t believe he would. Not saying he shouldn’t of chewed him out in the tunnel as DOB said, but your back is up against the wall. you find another way to discipline him, Seems like BC just wanted to embarrass him.
O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
11:49 pm
I feel like Howard has hit HRs off every Braves pitcher he has faced.
If the pitchers keep making mistakes to Howard (and he hits a HR), then you have to bite the bullet and walk him, especially with the bases empty.
But as we all know, Bobby Cox is too stubborn. Even if Howard hit a HR every at bat, Bobby would still pitch to him. And that makes no sense to me.
And as somebody else mentioned, two of our hottest hitters are hitting too low in the order. Why, Bobby why?
monty
September 18th, 2009
11:50 pm
Even announcers were all over the fact that Boone Logan hadn’t pitched since mid-August. They said “he was well rested!”
glord1
September 18th, 2009
11:51 pm
On a positive note. Huddy looked like he is back even if Howard crushed two mistakes. He looked like the old Huddy.
I really like this team next year if they can get a LF, resign Laroche and fix the pen. Hayward is a big boy.
As far as Yunel goes he did tank it down the line. He should have gone hard like Prado and Diaz. I still would not have pulled him. He has been hot lately so why punish the team by pulling him. Fine him but play his A$$. It was no worse that GA and Chipper going down the line and I have not seen them pulled.
ryan
September 18th, 2009
11:52 pm
If Cox didnt want to use O Flaherty against Phils leftys why the hell did he pitch him against the mets when we were winning 7 to 2.GO ESCO FIRE COX.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
11:53 pm
On a negative note…. FFS STOP PITCHING TO HOWARD YOU NUMBLETARDS
Yunie
September 18th, 2009
11:54 pm
¡Compraré a Bobby un nuevo John Deere si él se retira!
Danga
September 18th, 2009
11:55 pm
They don’t need a LF. They need a RF. You can send him out there. God bless him, he’ll play his arse off, but Matt Diaz is not a RF.
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
11:57 pm
“Would BC have pulled BMac for not bustng it? I don’t believe he would. Not saying he shouldn’t of chewed him out in the tunnel as DOB said, but your back is up against the wall. you find another way to discipline him, Seems like BC just wanted to embarrass him.”
I’ve seen Mac dog it a number of times this season and its usually after he gets frustrated after popping up the ball. I’m not going to pick on GA because I know he’s just slow but even my guy Prado had a couple of games this season where he seemed to take some things for granted on the basepaths. He almost got thrown out one time jogging in to third instead of running while the run was tagging up going home. I don’t think he was trying to embaress the guy though. Maybe he thinks Esco is going to be great and doesn’t want him to become another Manny. That whole great talent, great responsibility thing. I don’t think Esco would take that path anyway. Only way I can justify him possibly doing one thing to Esco and not to some others.
Dumbfound
September 18th, 2009
11:58 pm
Dodgers have tied up Giants 4-4. It ain’t over !
RHR
September 19th, 2009
12:01 am
So pissing him off and treating him differently than you treat everyone else will really show him huh?
Jake W.
September 19th, 2009
12:06 am
RHR
I’m not saying its right, i’ve said in other post ealier how I feel about. Just trying to come up with some reasoning why he would do it especially when so many other players on this team not named Chipper and GA (the elder statesman on the basepaths) do it. Thats why i brought up Prado and Mac. I clearly don’t agree with it as I think its hard to respect a guy who seems to have one set of rules for some and different ones for others. I believe you have to be consistent, but then again i’m not bobby and I was just trying to think of some reason why he may be doing it.
RHR
September 19th, 2009
12:07 am
yeah jake i cant come up with any reasoning either..is what i was saying
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
12:09 am
Good night to give the bullpen a rest, though.
Dumbfound
September 19th, 2009
12:12 am
Diamondbacks lead 6-4.
Danga
September 19th, 2009
12:12 am
Baffling night from Bobby for sure. LaRoche batting 8th. Pulling Esco. Tonight of all nights to give the bullpen regulars a rest.
brent a.
September 19th, 2009
12:12 am
It is true that some coaches pick out certain whipping boys, guys they know can take the heat from the coach and make an example of them.
Phil Jackson used to wear out Horace Grant in his early days in Chicago (the initial 3peat), and did the same with Kobe Bryant during his first stint with the Lakers.
He looks at the make-up of a player, and determines who can take the pressure. Jackson knew that Jordan was too big to be ridiculed, and he also knew that Shaquille O’Neal was too big of a baby to be ridiculed.
During the 2nd three-peat in Chicago, Jackson focused a lot of his negative energy (and the team’s) on Bulls’ GM, Jerry Krause.
It’s a strange psychology, and it in many respects it’s downright mean. But, he feels that it can serve as both a rallying point for the team (especially in the case of ridiculing Krause), while also used as a motivator for the player in question (with Bryant and Grant, it seemed to work, even though Bryant came to despise Jackson over time, but hey, they’ve patched things up, at least enough to re-unite and win aother title).
I also remember a story from the early part of this decade, about how then- Denver Nuggets coach Dan Issel used to berate Raef LaFrentz in practice. Raef didn’t respond well to this type of criticism, and the players told Issel as much, leading Issel to lay off the big man. (Ultimatel, LaFrentz and his bloated contract were pawned off on the Mavericks, but that’s really a different issue, mostly).
With Bobby and Escobar, I don’t think that is what is happening. I won’t write it off as being outside the realm of possibility; but, I’ve never gotten any kind of indication that Bobby plays these kind of psychological games, nor is baseball the same game. For starters, if you bench a guy in basebally, he’s toast and you’ve just shortened your bench to prove a point.
Regardless of what the motivation is, I’m not convinced that Escobar benefits from this kind of teaching/motivation. And, I know for sure that the team did not benefit from it tonight, in this game.
brian
September 19th, 2009
12:13 am
Jake – the only thing i can think of for Escobar is that maybe Escobar does not respond to other means of discplinary action and Cox thinks the only way he can get his point across to Escobar is taking him out of the game. Either that or Escobar has done it so many times he has crossed the threshold of verbal intervention. Beats me.
I just think that in this case Escobar should have been left in the game and disciplined later. Bobby was willing to sacrifice the game and the team to discipline him for not hustling. The only thing that comes to mind is in Little League or even middle school/high school ball games a player gets in trouble with his parents and they “punish” the child by not letting him play in his/her next game. You should punish the child, not the team, for more minor offenses. If the child skipped school, failed classes, got in trouble with the law – by all means boot him/her off the team but otherwise don’t hurt the team to make a point
curtis jones
September 19th, 2009
12:13 am
Only two things went right tonight. It was Chip Caray’s last game of the season, and it was the first time the Braves plunked Ryan Howard. Thank you Boone Logan. See you on the mound again in about 16 days.
brent a.
September 19th, 2009
12:16 am
COL 4
ARI 6
8th inning
Wilson
September 19th, 2009
12:16 am
DOB: I got no problem with pulling Escobar given the situation. Infante has proven to be a more than capable backup, and half-@ssing it shouldn’t be accepted ever. The problem is the management of the bullpen, obviously. I’m not a Cox basher, but his discretion in who he uses out of the pen this year has been terrible for the most part. You rest guys like Moylan, Soriano, Gonzalez, and O’Flaherty in the games you’re winning by 5+ runs not in the close games against your division leader. To rely on Logan in that type of situation when he hasn’t pitched in 22 days is just insane. 22 days!!! Accosta has been a one man rally starter for the opponent all year also. The situation Accosta came into with men on first and third was a prime spot for a groundball pitcher like Moylan to come in and try to induce a double play. That was the some of the worst bullpen management I’ve ever seen.
brian
September 19th, 2009
12:25 am
by the way Jake, catching up on some posts, it looks like your reading skills need a little work as your conclusions do not match what I said. In fact if you look at what DOB said in his post game comments, it mirrors much of what I was saying just in a professional, much better organized post.
I never said that Bobby should save his starters. In fact I said on numerous past blogs that Bobby was an idiot for taking starters out when he did – the most glaring example being Hanson in Houston. I also have criticized numerous times, even in the posts you try to reference, for overusing the bullpen in situations they do not need to be used, thus necessitating relievers rest in crucial situations like tonight. As DOB said, tonight is a good example of when you can really criticize Cox for using the same 3-4 relievers every night, even with big leads, wearing them out so you cannot use them when you really need them.
And yes, many great coaches have disciplined different players different ways. Phil Jackson is a great example of that and somebody has mentioned that comparison earlier. Escobar should have been chewed out for not hustling – just because others do not do it does not mean that Escobar should be let off. I just disagree with hurting the team in trying to get through to Escobar.
My guess is that there is more going on with Escobar and Cox, Escobar and the Braves for Cox to be so swift and severe with Escobar (hadn’t he been doing better lately??) and it does really make me wonder if the Braves will try to trade him in the offseason. His value will be much higher than when they were shopping him midseason. From a strictly performance point of view it would be a mistake to trade him short of getting Clay Buchholz, Andre Ethier, Justin Smoak and another prospect, Daniel Bard and Jed Lowrie, Chris Carter or Brett Wallace and one of the A’s young pitchers, etc.
H.R. PUFNSTUF
September 19th, 2009
12:25 am
Well golly!!!!
brian
September 19th, 2009
12:26 am
well said Wilson
Mitchell
September 19th, 2009
12:26 am
I think taking Yunel out of the game is ultimately a slap in the face to Chase Utley and MVP, Gold Glove winner and a World Champion.
How often does he do that? He’s an All-Star! It was one bad throw out of 50.
Bobby’s acting like Utley’s some kid with with his arm in a sling or an arthritic 42 year old in his final season.
For F’s sake, I could have thrown Yunel out. I may have fainted like a baby goat (they faint when frightened… no really) when he hit it to me but if somebody next to me wants to field it, hand it over, I could probably have thrown him out.
Have we noticed also that Yunel doesn’t run through the bag? He lunges every time. But then of course he gets injured and suddenly he’s faking it.
Bobby is wrong. There’s no debating it. We lost to Houston after Tommy had shut them out through 8, therefore bringing Soriano into the game to close it was a mistake.
I’m not saying I want the Braves front office to start emulating the Yankees or Cubs or Mets organizations, but you know for a fact that anybody other than Bobby Cox would have been fired by now in those towns.
Taking Yunel out is an insult to the Phillies and the results speak for themselves.
Jake W.
September 19th, 2009
12:27 am
brian
I agree that he should have found some other way to get through to him in this game. I’ve never said I disagree with the message. I love the message, I wish bobby would draw such a hard line more than he does. You have to hustle, don’t take anything for granted. But I have seen on many an occasion Mac pop the ball up, sometimes slam his bat, and put his head down and jog to 1st. These are both great talents and they both seem to have these “lapses” some times.
I have heard Joe Simpson go from almost killing Escobar to gushing over him. He has said how much the guy has matured, but it just seems like every time the guy does wrong the hammer comes down on him hard. Call me a fool for believing Simpson and what he has said about the guys maturation. Is it complete, no. But is he maturing, yes. Some people here are just so impatient and will always judge him for his past instead of what he is doing now. They want Esco to act like Jeff Francoeur but he didn’t grow up that way. Just like some who want Heyward here now and not next year or wanted Hanson here at the beginning of the year. Patience is the key. Is it so hard to believe that Esco has gotten better and can we be patient enough to see that maturation continue instead of coming up with trade suggestions every time he has a miscue. Bad habits are hard to break and from what i’ve seen he has already broken quite a few.
Dumbfound
September 19th, 2009
12:30 am
Rockies coming apart, what a waste by the braves and bobby cox ! I am hoping but i don’t see it with bobby cox managing this team !
brian
September 19th, 2009
12:32 am
I agree Jake – Escobar had seemed much more mature and unless if I missed a goof it seemed like Escobar was doing a lot better. That is why I would guess something has to be going on behind the scenes. Otherwise why come down on a guy who had apparently improved so much in the hustle/mental error department who made one slip up? As you said, it seemed that he had made much progress in breaking bad habits and seemed to have matured from the June swoon. One mistake and a quick hook. Doesn’t make sense and definitely hurt the team– offensively and probably in the morale department as well
Soph
September 19th, 2009
12:32 am
Good night to give the bullpen a rest, though.
Geez, are you trying to start a riot?
brian
September 19th, 2009
12:34 am
I agree Mitchell – the mistakes made by the manager this year would have any other manager fired
Mitchell
September 19th, 2009
12:34 am
I think taking Yunel out of the game is ultimately a slap in the face to Chase Utley and MVP, Gold Glove winner and a World Champion.
That was supposed to say “Chase Utley, an MVP…”
How embarrassing.
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
12:38 am
If I wanted to start a riot, I’d say something like “Lentz Rulez!”
Shamus Thacker
September 19th, 2009
12:40 am
I’m very tired and desperately need sleep, but before I retire I’d like to call Bobby and idiot.
I suddenly feel compelled to once again say Bobby is and idiot.
Whenever a Braves pitcher does not intentionally walk Howard, it further solidifies the notion that yes, Bobby is and idiot.
For those of you with ADHD, or just blitzed to the bone like myself, I’ll repeat it one more time; Bobby Cox is and idiot of idiotic proportion. I shall heretofore refer to Robert at Bobidiot Cox.
It takes one to truly know one. Myself being and extreme idiot, I believe I’m uniquely qualified to judge Bobidiot, as he drives the bar ever higher for idiotics everywhere…
Nite Y’all
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
12:40 am
Speaking of which, I haven’t seen the little bugger around in awhile
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
12:41 am
And Shamus slams Bobby with an And Idiot Trilogy
Jake W.
September 19th, 2009
12:42 am
brian
I never said that you said bobby should save his starters. Simple as this, I brought up how you seem to agree with Bobby for benching Yunel and disagree with him for using EOF when he shouldn’t have. I’m trying to point out how you and other posters are so hypocrytical in your criticism of Cox. How can you be mad when Cox overuses EOF when he has shown you time in and time out that he is inconsistent in his treatment of his pitchers, especially the bullpen, yet agree with the guy when he has shown that he is inconsistent in his treatment of his position players. How can you applaud the guy for being inconsitent in his punishment with escobar and not punishing other players for the same thing then get mad when he is inconsistent with his treatment of the pitchers by overusing some and saving the arms of others? Its a simple comparision.
Dumbfound
September 19th, 2009
12:43 am
Rockies lose 7-5. Well ?!!
kirkinga
September 19th, 2009
12:43 am
Well I wonder if the Rangers would swap Andrus for Escobar…lol? I wouldn’t even consider trading Escobar but something is amiss. What really puzzles me is that they scouted this guy at least a bit before signing him and then he was in the minors before being called up.
I don’t see how Escobar can all of a sudden run afoul of Bobby. Are we to believe his behavior changed for the worse after we reached the big leagues? I find that hard to believe.The Braves made the decision to trade Renteria and designate Elvis A as expendable. So if Yunel is not turning out as they thought then the organization must share in the blame as they had other viable options to play the position.
So they need to stick with their decision and make it work. No way they get equal value for him in a trade and his departure in no way makes this a better team.
Soph
September 19th, 2009
12:47 am
I think he’s done with baseball this year. Moving on to his precious Cowboys.
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
12:50 am
Poor Cowboys bloggers won’t know what hit em
Soph
September 19th, 2009
12:51 am
They deserve it for being Cowboys fans.
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
12:52 am
Heaven forbid Dallas doesn’t play with urgency on Sunday
Soph
September 19th, 2009
12:53 am
I’m sure the ellipsis and quotation marks would be out in full force.
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
12:55 am
You know without Paul here we have less to agree about on here. I mean, that was the one thing pretty much everybody could hold hands over.
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
12:55 am
Did he use ellipses a lot? I never noticed
Johnny Schuerholz
September 19th, 2009
12:56 am
Rockies lose…still only 4 back…but with now just 15 games for us left in the season. A daunting task for sure. I would say that we still have a chance. ESPN has us with a 4.2% chance of playing post season baseball. I would say it is more like 1 in 10…10%. But, that is just me.
but…do not fret my friends. We are still live to play another day (or 15 or so…). I have taken care of Mr. Cox for the evening. I spiked his geritol with some ex-lax. That ought to get his attention.
I do agree that he did the correct thing with Yunel. Kid needs to grow up. He was jogging out of the box. Sit his butt…however, he should be in the line-up tonight.
Chipper. What a total flop this year. BA almost .95 points lower than last year (…and falling…) and .039 points lower than your career average. I told Bobby to sit you until we lost. Moot point now. So now what?
HAVE TO WIN THE NEXT TWO AGAINST THE PHILLIES…or the fat lady will be really clearing her throat. On top of that…(and winning 2 out 3 this weekend)…we must win 10 + of the final 13 (beginning with the Mets on Monday night)…or we will cheering on our friends over at the Georgia Dome…sooner…rather than later.
I STILL BELIEVE
Soph
September 19th, 2009
12:56 am
Yeah, people have been pretty divided since he departed. Oh well, I can live with it.
Soph
September 19th, 2009
12:57 am
For the record, I still believe too.
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
12:58 am
I think we can only lose one more to even hope to make it.
The A Bomb
September 19th, 2009
12:59 am
Tonight wasn’t baffling at all. . .
Cox is acting like a guy who’s on his way out, and “I DID IT MY WAY.”
He’s beaten the bullpen to a pulp because he doesn’t care.
He benched Escobar because he doesn’t care.
He wants to go out on his terms.
Two more weeks of this BS and we can move on.
fastasballs
September 19th, 2009
1:00 am
Well the Rockies just lost so there is still hope, although not a lot. The best thing the Braves can do is put this game to bed & start again tomorrow. Nothing went right tonight at all with the exception of the Rockies losing.
I’m still ticked over Cox benching Escobar. There was simply no sense in it at this point in the season nor at that point in the game. Had Escobar loafed in the 8th down by 5 runs then sit him to prove your point, but not in a 2-1 game with the playoffs on the line.
The other thing I don’t get is Cox said Moylan would have been in if the game was tied or they taken the lead. Was Soriano not available either? If he was the time for Moylan was bases juiced in the 8th when it was still a 3-1 game & Werth coming up.
I’ll never understand Cox’s rationale behind his bullpen handling. We saw guys tonight who have not pitched in weeks, yet are thrown into a pressure cooker of a game. It’s not the best environment for guys who have not pitched in weeks or nearly a month as in the case for Logan.
Not to blame everything on Cox because Gonzalez possibly could have been used tonight if he had said he was hurting the other night before giving up a homer. He’s the guy you want to face Howard, Utley, & Ibanez, sure & hell not Boone Logan. I’m glad he plunked Howard though, about the best moment in the game aside from McCann’s jack.
Soph
September 19th, 2009
1:01 am
Still mathematically alive. Good enough for me.
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
1:01 am
Well for the record, Bobby didn’t overwork the bullpen tonight. He just used the worst relievers available in a (once) close game.
And there’s no guarantee he’ll be gone next year either.
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
1:02 am
As much as Bobby gets dumped on here, I think he’s still pretty revered throughout the casual fanbase.
Tomahawkin
September 19th, 2009
1:02 am
Where is Paul Lentz at…? Did he get Bozo’d again…Most on here don’t agree with him but he does make good points about this dissappointing season
Go Bulldogs!
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
1:03 am
Nice transition, Tomahawkin
Soph
September 19th, 2009
1:03 am
So, T’Hawkin where have you been? It’s been a while.
Tomahawkin
September 19th, 2009
1:03 am
Cox is a Way different manager than he was during the 91-95 seasons…
Cox needs to resign and Take TP with him. In Boston or New York Bobby would’ve been gone years ago…
Soph
September 19th, 2009
1:04 am
What time does UGA play tomorrow? Or, today I guess.
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
1:06 am
I don’t know much about 90’s Cox…I was only 7 in 1991. I hear some people say he was a great manager. Then I hear some people say he did the same things then that he does now.
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
1:06 am
7:45, Soph. Against our old buddy Bobby Petrino
Tomahawkin
September 19th, 2009
1:07 am
Soph
Our Internet got cut off at the spot due to the fact that 2 of my roommates got laid off from their jobs, So T-Hawkin has been MIA over the last 2 weeks or so…
I will be in what Al B Sure used to say “Full effect Mode” this weekend, “Bank On It!”
Gonna be some good TV this weekend…The Dawgs are in my Town of Fayetteville Ar, that will be a close game
And I want to see the NY Giants Stump Tony Homo and the Cowboys Sunday night
Lane Kiffen is gonna get Clowned at the Swamp, I’m looking foward to that…
Time To Bump some Old New Kids on the Block
Soph
September 19th, 2009
1:08 am
T’Hawkin – we were like 7 or 8 in ‘91. I sure as hell didn’t know anything about him then. I mean I liked the Braves but I don’t know how Bobby managed.
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
1:09 am
1984, Soph?
Soph
September 19th, 2009
1:10 am
Ugh, Petrino. He’s on my list with Lane Kiffin.
As long as the Falcons win, I don’t care what any other team does.
NKOTB – T’Hawkin?
Soph
September 19th, 2009
1:11 am
jeffrey – 83.
Tomahawkin
September 19th, 2009
1:11 am
Soph
RHR Thought That I had a Serious BF and Threw My Laptop out of the Window…
I took a 2 week break from watching this Cock-teasing team after we got Clowned by the Reds
Plus Football is on Now, I gotta represent my Boyz
I had a Miniature BF tonight, It would’ve been worse had we still been in the race…
Phillies will finish us off this weekend…I want to see them Destory the Cards and their Bandwagon fans in October
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
1:12 am
oldie
Soph
September 19th, 2009
1:13 am
I prefer classic.
Tomahawkin
September 19th, 2009
1:14 am
Represent 1984 up in here, I was 7 during the 1991 WS
But I have Tapes and old Braves Books that I have collected during the years…
TBS needs to come out with another braves video celebrating our title run
I have the Braves win it all tape from 1995 and that video brings back a lot of Memories
Pointe South Elementary used to be off da chain when the Braves played at the Chop Shop
Tomahawkin
September 19th, 2009
1:15 am
I had no Idea that Len Pasquerelli (Spelling) used to be the Falcons Beat writer before he went to BSPN…
Soph
September 19th, 2009
1:16 am
I have game 6 of the ‘95 WS on VHS.
We used to have Braves Day at school. It used to be so much fun.
Dumbfound
September 19th, 2009
1:17 am
The only logic I see as to why bobby cox is so hell bent on saving the bullpen, Is that Jim Tracy and Joe Torre has told bobby they are going to throw the rest of their games and bobby and the braves would be in. Makes sense to me.
Dumbfound
September 19th, 2009
1:18 am
Sorry, Not Joe Torre but Bruce Bochy !
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
1:18 am
Oh I was born in early 84. We’re not that old.
I remember when the Braves made it to the World Series one year the middle school band came through the halls in the middle of the day and started playing the tomahawk chop.
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
1:19 am
I was husky and awkward in middle school. These are some nice flashbacks
Soph
September 19th, 2009
1:22 am
Yeah, middle school was not good to anyone.
TnBrian
September 19th, 2009
1:23 am
Cox has more baseball knowledge in his pinky fingernail than most others can only dream of having. So the only reason I can imagine that he keeps making strange decisions is that he’s arrogantly saying to whoever, “I’m Bobby Fu*** Cox and I’ll do what I damn well please”. I understand you can’t go about your business being a manager/coach in a sport and be successful by trying appease the fans, but this man beats all I’ve ever and probably will ever see with his stubborness and loyalties to certain guys.
Artie
September 19th, 2009
1:23 am
If it was the first game of the season and he did it, sure. If Bobby had been taking people out all year when they loaf down the line, sure. But to start doing it now when it had been happening all year with the whole team doing it, it looks like he’s just singling out Yunel.
Soph
September 19th, 2009
1:24 am
Early ‘84? So you’re b’day’s close to Mac & Francoeur’s then.
Yunel's Frosted Tips
September 19th, 2009
1:24 am
Who wins a sumo wrestling match between Chino Cadiha and Charlie Weiss?
The winner is proclaimed “Captain Buttfront”
Anonymous Caller
September 19th, 2009
1:24 am
Guys it’s nice to think that every player should be hustling on every single play of the year, but that’s just not the reality of MLB.
Tomahawkin
September 19th, 2009
1:24 am
Dizam
I think the average age on this blog tonight is like 25-26, a lot of young cats on here tonight…
If I wasn’t broke I’d be at a club right now getting tuned up…
Soph
September 19th, 2009
1:25 am
*your not you’re
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
1:25 am
WOW….I’m going through the wall posts on the blog Facebook group. It’s weird actually seeing people. There’s Tomahawkin, CAB’s dog, Chop Chop…
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
1:26 am
Right between McCann and Francoeur actually. 11 days before McCann if I remember correctly (Feb 9th)
Tomahawkin
September 19th, 2009
1:27 am
I loved Middle School
I was the One who always got in trouble for Laughing out loud in class…
“So Now I pout like a grown jerk, wishing all I had to do now was finish homework”. (Some old Ahmed)
Yunel's Frosted Tips
September 19th, 2009
1:28 am
Oh, sí, Bobby Cox es una grasa, Nosepicker estúpida que necesita ser despedido
Soph
September 19th, 2009
1:28 am
Am I the only one that can’t find the group on FB? What the hell?
Tomahawkin
September 19th, 2009
1:29 am
Jeffrey D
You have a link to that group…?
need to put my old Facebook Picture where I’m dressed up as Tiger Woods at a Holloween party and I’m drunk as Shyt, It’s something I’ve been meaning to do for a while but have been too lazy to do so
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
1:30 am
Tomahawkin – you were the first to sign in
Soph – who’s slow now?
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=53472692450
Chop Chop
September 19th, 2009
1:31 am
I was almost twelve in ‘91. I shed a tear or two when the Braves lost to the Twins. The last time I got really mad at a Braves team was 2002. That was the NLDS where Glavine got blitzed by the Giants. After that, I backed off. I realized that this team just wasn’t as good as it used to be. I probably should have known that earlier, but I wanted to have some hope.
Anyway, I couldn’t care less about this team making the postseason. This team doesn’t pique my interest. It doesn’t intrigue me. Maybe it’s just a matter of me growing up or something, but I need more than a tease to ignite my fanhood’s heart light.
(I liked typing that.)
In fact, I think I’m going to need the Braves to be bad for a while before I can really get worked up over seeing them have a winning season. When I say “bad for a while,” I mean five or six losing seasons in a row. Maybe ten. Yeah, ten.
Tomahawkin
September 19th, 2009
1:32 am
Soph
Here’s The link
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=53472692450
D.O.B. is Living Large!
Soph
September 19th, 2009
1:33 am
Oh, I know I’m slow. I don’t deny it.
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
1:33 am
That sets the Braves up for a dramatic 2020 comeback
Tomahawkin
September 19th, 2009
1:34 am
Jeffrey D
I didn’t know that I was the First One…WOW
Did I post “First” like so many do on this blog…?
(Joking)
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
1:36 am
No it was just like “Tomahawkin representing”
Soph
September 19th, 2009
1:36 am
Awww, look at everyone. It is weird seeing faces with names now.
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
1:39 am
Isn’t it? The people you picture as young are old, ugly are attractive, male are female, etc.
Tomahawkin
September 19th, 2009
1:40 am
Jeffrey D
I do remember that, lol Its been months since I posted that I might need to throw some of my joking lingo phrases on there (Bank On It, Hoe Sit Down, etc)
unbelievable
September 19th, 2009
1:41 am
Enter your comments here
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
1:41 am
Kind of like when we saw DOB up there for the first time. We all had different mental images of him, then all of a sudden, there he was. What some of us pictured, and for others, far from it.
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
1:42 am
Enter your comments here
That IS unbelievable!
Soph
September 19th, 2009
1:43 am
Yeah because you have a mental image in your head and it’s usually not even close to the actual thing.
T’Hawkin – my personal fav is ho’ sit down.
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
1:43 am
Alright, as fun as it’s been creeping with you guys (and at the risk of having 3 consecutive comments), I need to get to bed.
Goodnight everyone…I’ll be ready for some football/baseball tomorrow
Tomahawkin
September 19th, 2009
1:44 am
I’m gonna have to start a post on there explaining what a BF is and Have instances during the season that resulted in me having a BF
jeffrey d
September 19th, 2009
1:45 am
You have a BF Tomahawkin?
Soph
September 19th, 2009
1:46 am
Yeah he had multiple BF’s last month.
That doesn’t sound right, huh?
unbelievable
September 19th, 2009
1:46 am
“As for Esco: Folks, let’s face it, Cox and other managers and coaches in other sports view old guys with bad wheels differently than in-their-prime dudes, and expect the latter to run out ground balls like that, etc. And really, that’s not too much to ask. Gotta do it, man”
this is crap…Bobby only makes examples out of Yunel and everyone here knows it. How many grounders have we seen Chipper or Anderson not run out? He’s never pulled Anderson on any of his lazy routes to fly balls in LF. Bobby’s act is getting old. He’s too loyal to some and never trust others. I can pretty much guarantee that one of Yunel or Bobby wont be around next season and Im pretty sure we can guess what will happen.
Bobby is still batting Laroche 7th/8th?? also. Guys this man is done as a manager. We get to see all of Soriano/Gonzo/Moylan in games where we are leading by 4 or 5 runs, but when the game is on the line and its close we get Logan/Acosta/Nunez/Medlen? I am officially done as a Bobby Cox supporter. Please Wren do something about this.
Soph
September 19th, 2009
1:47 am
G’night if you’re leaving, jeffrey.
Chop Chop
September 19th, 2009
1:49 am
I once told an ex-girlfriend this:
“Ho, sit down!”
She turned around, gave me an evil stare, and said this:
“Boy, you are gonna get clowned! Bank on it!”
As you can imagine, Tomahawkin brings back a lot of memories.
Soph
September 19th, 2009
1:50 am
lmao Chop Chop. You crack me up.
Tomahawkin
September 19th, 2009
1:54 am
I can’t Believe at all the people who don’t know what “Clowning” means…
Chop Chop And Soph
Thanks for getting that “Hoe Sit Down” Song In my head, The Lyrics are garbage but that song rules at a party
Just too bad that I haven’t been able to say that Phrase a lot this year because we get our asses handed to us by teams like the Phillies Sox and Bankees…
I hate losing to those teams…I did enjoy beating the crap out of the Cardinals, I hate their bandwagon fans
Dumbfound
September 19th, 2009
1:55 am
Giants win ! enough said !
Soph
September 19th, 2009
1:59 am
lol T’Hawkin you put a definition of bf on the wall? Haaa.
Ghost of Shane Vendrell
September 19th, 2009
2:01 am
The thing with Yunel, I just don’t think Cox is the right manager to relate to him. Growing up in Cuba, listening to all the propaganda, and still giving the middle finger to Castro shows an independent streak right there. Combine that with his youth, his fiery nature, and his troubles with English and it isn’t hard to see why a guy like Cox wouldn’t like him. And that’s a big sticking point with Cox, liking you. He trots Norton and Anderson out there because he likes them and they can do no wrong. Take a look at GA’s August and September lines, they are ugly. And even if you still insist on playing him you have to bat him 8th. But because Cox likes him he shoves him in the middle of the order to fail fail fail fail fail. Not only that but poor Yunel not only has to play SS but he has to play left field too. And if you want to say Garret is old and doesn’t have good wheels so it’s ok for him not to hustle on almost sure outs then ok, I can accept that. But how does that excuse his laziness in the field? Balls drop at his feet like they stay in Paris Hilton’s face. And he rarely ever backs up groudballs hit to the left side of the infield, costing runs on several occasions.
A lot of other managers, they would see Escobar’s talent and try to adapt their styles when dealing with them. Nobody is telling Bobby he has to like the guy or invite him over for Christmas dinner, just don’t let your dislike for him affect the way you treat him and I believe Bobby does this. Considering the Braves were pretty dead set on dealing Escobar last winter, even with no replacement anywhere in sight, tells me something. It tells me Bobby wants him gone and the club was willing to comply. A couple of months ago I heard the former Blue Jays GM say that the 2 toughest positions to field were a good hitting catcher and a defensive star at SS that can hit. We have BOTH of those things, yet this ballclub and it’s manager seem dead set on ridding itself of one of them.
Tomahawkin
September 19th, 2009
2:04 am
Yep, I had Multiple BF’s last month, It wasn’t Pretty…
Mitchell had a few of his own as well, I’m a lot more Compassionate than he is, lol (Joking)
Tomahawkin
September 19th, 2009
2:12 am
Wow, I forgot that D.O.B.’s Brother is in that Facebook group, I’m suprised that Boog isn’t in on the action…
uga-brave
September 19th, 2009
2:16 am
chop chop,
you are to young to be a cynic. seriously, i have watched three market meltdowns.
saw a ton of wealth lost in 1996 when interest rates spiked.
saw the dot com bubble burst in march of 2000. saw the 9/11 thing.
saw the market rebounnd in 2003.
saw the collaterized debt market bring, bear stearns, lehman, and merril lynch down.
hey flange, you know i called it. told braves dave it was coming.
got laughed at but i called it in 2007.
either way chop chop being a cynic is easy.
uga-brave
September 19th, 2009
2:20 am
mitchell thanks for being a good sport, it was not personal.
uga-brave
September 19th, 2009
2:23 am
bas where are you.
bas where are you.
kinda like fred flinstone calling out the great gazoo.
gotta be at least 35 to get it.
uga-brave
September 19th, 2009
2:35 am
on a baseball note, this was better then expected.
like dave said 6 under to ten over .500.
16 games over since the end of june. with chipper hitting nothing.
yeah blame #6, great stuff guys. you will miss him, i guarantee.
over 162 it is about someone that keeps a clubhouse united. bobby has always done that.
like scoots always says we need a thug in the middle. actually we need two.
kc was brazen when he said, “yeah but we might have eight that will hit 15.”
well give me a leadoff guy and two that will hit thirty in the middle and the braves will and should take their chances.
uga-brave
September 19th, 2009
2:47 am
maybe i should take bill maher to a georgia football game.
that would be interesting. he sure would be popular.
RHR
September 19th, 2009
2:51 am
i agree its been better than expected and hey we were out of it by july last year. at least we made it til september coach would prolly say 2010 or bust if he was still a braves fan but he quit in june when the freight train came along
night yall go dawgs go huskies go …. vols? yuck
Sadtoseeitthisway
September 19th, 2009
2:57 am
Boone Logan? They used Boone Logan tonight. I thought he was in the witness protection program. But, he came in and gave Ryan Howard a well deserved plunking. Howard looked like, Why you throwin at me? (after hitting 2 home runs) Good thing he`s a docile type. It could get ugly if he got upset and did something about it.