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Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
8:45 pm
Ok, lets break this last post down from you Marc, 1st you said:
“What the hell are you talking about? Diaz runs harder down the line than anyone on this team, what are you smoking?”
I could have swore I said that but silly me, over estimating some of our bloggers reading skills. Next statement:
“And I’m not going to complain on the blog everytime someone jogs down the line – my fingers would fall off in a week’s time. ”
Yet you feel the need to do it for Esco, I wonder why? What makes him different Marc if so many others do it? Next Part:
“My statement is that Escobar was wrong to not hussle, not that he’s the only one on the team that doesn’t hussle. Bobby picks on Esco more than anyone, that doesn’t make their lack of hussle any more acceptable, and doesn’t make Esco’s lack of hussle anymore acceptable. His injury can’t be that bad cause he floors it just fine when he wants to.”
Sounds a little hypocrytical to me Marc and i’m glad you from your tv screen at home could tell me how hurt the guy is or anyone else on this team. You say you would say it when anyone else does it in one post then you say in the next post you are not going to type everytime someone does it. Yeah, you make a lot of since to me. Don’t get mad because I called you on your crap.
Mr. Enigma
September 18th, 2009
8:45 pm
nycbravesfan
Joe Maddon benched B.J. Upton twice in September last year for not hustling. Upton pulled his head out of his butt and realized he needed to step up. And the Rays still won the AL Pennant.
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
8:47 pm
RHR Every single pitcher misses their spot every single time, don’t you get it?
Ugh…not EVERY time.
But THAT time…
You takin’ a stab at me?
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
8:47 pm
Howard has homered in 3 of his past 5 ABs at the Ted…
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
8:48 pm
Danga,
Avoiding redundancy is not one of the things you are good at avoiding.
Sorry, had to do that.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
8:48 pm
No way McFann! I’m taking a stab at everyone pitching to Howard. Stop it already!
Braves Paisan
September 18th, 2009
8:49 pm
nycbravesfan, I agree that you don’t pull a key player in an important. He is embarassed, but you lose his skills. Call him into the office, dress him down, fine him … but why hurt the rest of the team? It seems self-defeating.
I was at that game when, early in his career, Andruw Jones didn’t move on a deep liner in the gap. Bobby replaced him immediately, and it worked –Jones played great, hustling center field for us for the rest of his stay here. Some OTHER approach is needed with Escobar.
(By the way, I was born in Greenpoint. Yo’, Brooklyn!)
RHR
September 18th, 2009
8:50 pm
Cox needs to be held more accountable… i would love for someone to grill him about that decision in the post game.. i mean seriously.. 3 wks in the season and your still trying to teach lessons…
But only to one guy…everyone else can learn lessons on their own.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
8:51 pm
And its hispanic heritage night at the ted too….
Timbo
September 18th, 2009
8:51 pm
Hopefully this is the last year for Cox. He runs this team as if it were a little league team; which is fine if you’re winning; otherwise it makes for a completely boring team. Anyone that doesn’t have a plain white bread type personality will clash with him . . .
fastasballs
September 18th, 2009
8:52 pm
I’m still amazed Cox benched Escobar at this point in the season. Why hurt the team? Shaking my head…………………
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
8:52 pm
And for the record I don’t have anything against the message Bobby is trying to send Esco, just call me a fool for wanting him to send that message to ALL our players and not just some. Would I have rather he did something else to get the message thru to him, yes. But I don’t hate the message just wished it was more equally distributed.
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
8:53 pm
Bobby Cox is a F***ing idiot.
Who runs hard on a ball hit to the second baseman? I don’t recall Chipper doing it lately.
Do we want guys pulling hamstrings on meaningless plays?
nycbravesfan
September 18th, 2009
8:53 pm
Mr. Enigma, What has Joe Madden done this year?
If Joe Madden jumps off the bridge, Bobby Cox should…
right on, i live in astoria, chilly up here now!
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
8:54 pm
Why is Chipper even hitting?
What is that doing for us? He can’t hit s***.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
8:54 pm
Totally agree, Jake.
nycbravesfan
September 18th, 2009
8:56 pm
y would you even compare bobby cox to joe madden, Cox is a much better manager..
I have been a long time supporter of Cox, but there is no denying that he has made more than his share of horrible, horrible decisions.. like pitching to Howard with two outs…the list goes on forever my friend
A FAN
September 18th, 2009
8:57 pm
just pathetic plan and simple!
Kelly's Johnson
September 18th, 2009
8:57 pm
There is a VERY good reason why Cox does NOT have as much “patience” with Esco….as he does with the other players on the team… IF…you don’t know why that is….either you haven’t been watching Esco’s play this year…OR…you don’t know much about baseball….Personally, I hope Esco grows up and learns how to play the game…At the moment…I’m not at all sure this will ever happen…we shall see.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
8:57 pm
Will he pitch to Howard?
I vote YES.
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
8:57 pm
Wish someone could bench Bobby after he continuously makes bone headed decisons. I mean, the objective is to win, right? So, Yunel not hustling wasn’t a winning attitude, well, than neither is burying your pen arms in the ground and batting CJ 3rd and LaRoche 7th and 8th in the lineup.
brian
September 18th, 2009
8:58 pm
How do you not hustle with the Braves riding a 7 game winning streak to get back to the fringe of the playoffs?
nycbravesfan
September 18th, 2009
8:58 pm
and your appropriately names kelly johnson..
Jimmy Joe
September 18th, 2009
8:58 pm
Trading Escobar would be stupid, but the package of prospects would be immense.
Roman Gal
September 18th, 2009
8:59 pm
I can’t believe what the Phillies gave up for Lee and Francisco…
RHR
September 18th, 2009
8:59 pm
Yeah too bad Yunel doesn’t get the patience Frenchy and Kelly got, huh? Oh well. Thems the breaks.
McFann :Ô:
September 18th, 2009
8:59 pm
OUT!!!
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
9:00 pm
Good night, all. On a church league softball team I understood that you run all out on every play, because every year or two a fielder makes a mistake. In 1969, Gil Hodges walked out halfway to left field and pulled his best hitter, Cleon Jones, for failing to hustle after a fly ball. Bobby has tried to get that message across to Yunel all year. Maybe it’s okay to not hustle because we like to shift blame to Chipper, or because we hate Bobby, but that is not the way I learned baseball.
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
9:01 pm
RHR – sucking and not hustling are totally different!
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
9:01 pm
Braves Paisan
September 18th, 2009
8:49 pm
nycbravesfan, I agree that you don’t pull a key player in an important. He is embarassed, but you lose his skills. Call him into the office, dress him down, fine him … but why hurt the rest of the team? It seems self-defeating.
I was at that game when, early in his career, Andruw Jones didn’t move on a deep liner in the gap. Bobby replaced him immediately, and it worked –Jones played great, hustling center field for us for the rest of his stay here.
That is absolutely false. Bobby pulled him out of a game in like 1997 for dropping a ball or doing a basket catch, basically not hustling in the outfield.
His last three years here he never even ran out a ball hit to third. Bobby did s*** about it.
How do you take Yunel out of the f***ing game? This is bull***.
nolie
September 18th, 2009
9:02 pm
WHy aiN’t KeLLy pLayINg? We ain’T GoNNa wiN nO gaMes wiTh a dOg Like Prado playing. FiRE bOOby bOOger, fRee kEllY. BAllGaME!!!
Kelly's Johnson
September 18th, 2009
9:02 pm
I think we can all agree that Esco has “earned” his “no patience” tag from Cox…(assuming we’re being serious here…which, of course, may be assuming too much)
lexbrave
September 18th, 2009
9:03 pm
not that im complaining, but if anyone needs to be benched its franscisco for trying to steal 3rd after hitting a lead off double.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
9:03 pm
LMAO idiots.
Roman Gal
September 18th, 2009
9:03 pm
[sigh]
bravesgrl4life
September 18th, 2009
9:03 pm
Would a walk have hurt us there????
bravesgirlnc
September 18th, 2009
9:03 pm
Why are they pitching to him???
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
9:04 pm
Oh, well, I guess they can keep trying to pitch to him.
Huddy gave up THREE homers in one game against Howard a few years ago.
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
9:04 pm
WTF
Bobby needs to be fired. NOW!
F it. I’m done.
RHR
September 18th, 2009
9:04 pm
How bout benching Huddy and Heap for pitching to howard?
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
9:04 pm
Maybe we should just give them an automatic run every time Howard comes to bat – cut down on the torment.
Tomahawk Choppers
September 18th, 2009
9:04 pm
Letting him do it to us again. Two great fastballs inside and another high slider. Why not go back inside again? Unbelieveable
cricket
September 18th, 2009
9:04 pm
I know everyone hates that quote about insanity, but…
Efrim
September 18th, 2009
9:04 pm
Haven’t been around for a while, hope all is well with everyone on the ole blog. Some streak the Braves are on, hopefully they’ll continue it tonight. Sucks to see Esco pulled….I hope they have abandoned any notion of dealing him, because he is one of the top 5 most valuable players in the organization.
AndyC
September 18th, 2009
9:05 pm
Note to Bobby.
DON’T PITCH TO HOWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Danga
September 18th, 2009
9:05 pm
Bye Mitchell.
Witch Doctor Soriano
September 18th, 2009
9:05 pm
How many more balls is Hudson going to leave up in the zone?
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
9:05 pm
Those Philly players are just laughing thier ass off at Hudson and Mac.
SouthernBelleBrave
September 18th, 2009
9:05 pm
So stupid to keep pitching to that MF Howard!!!! They will never learn.
lexbrave
September 18th, 2009
9:05 pm
you have got to be kidding me…the bases were freaking clear and they still pitched to howard…obviously the braves are thinking, i don’t know what the heck they’re thinking.
iowabrave
September 18th, 2009
9:06 pm
Someone please ask Mr. Cox why he chooses to pitch to Howard. How many times does he have to do this to us?
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
9:06 pm
Told ya….he’s not done yet either. Keep on groovin’ ‘em to him Huddy.
We don’t need this game huh?
RHR
September 18th, 2009
9:06 pm
Jim – ever read Frenchy’s comments in the paper when he sucked? When he got sent down? Complete disrespect for the team and the manager…and yet…who backed down and let him come back after 2 days? Way to show ‘em who is boss…
YE19
September 18th, 2009
9:06 pm
Efrim,
WRT Esco… Amen to that. Amen.
Kelly's Johnson
September 18th, 2009
9:07 pm
Actually…Druw was pulled DURING the inning….for not making much of an attempt on a looping fly ball to short center….just kinda loafed in and let it fall….it was pretty obvious he did it on purpose..
Roman Gal
September 18th, 2009
9:07 pm
Hmm…ok. I knew 2 homeruns sounded a little light.
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
9:07 pm
“There is a VERY good reason why Cox does NOT have as much “patience” with Esco….as he does with the other players on the team… IF…you don’t know why that is….either you haven’t been watching Esco’s play this year…OR…you don’t know much about baseball….Personally, I hope Esco grows up and learns how to play the game…At the moment…I’m not at all sure this will ever happen…we shall see.”
Maybe its you who doesn’t watch the game enough or know much about it because if you did you would realize that just yesterday JOE SIMPSON said officials from other teams and he acknowledged himself how much Escobar had grown up and matured. You know, someone who actually sees what the guy is like day in day out. Does that mean the guy will be perfect from here on out, No. Name me someone who is. Some of you people need to get off your high horses. So quick to judge from a far. But then again with a name like Kelly’s Johnson that should tell me all I need to know about you and the way you think.
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
9:07 pm
Bye Danga.
Your name is dumb.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
9:08 pm
RYAN HOWARD HAS HIT 4 HRS IN HIS LAST 6 ABS AT TURNER FIELD!!!
Mr. Enigma
September 18th, 2009
9:08 pm
RHR
Francoeur was called back up so quick because both Matt Diaz and Mark Kotsay got injured in a game in Milwaukee and they were short on outfielders. Players aren’t allowed to be called back up for 10 days unless they’re replacing someone who is injured.
bravefaninok
September 18th, 2009
9:08 pm
I think Huddy better just walk Howard no matter what.
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
9:08 pm
Yeah, we had a comeback win against the Mets, but these are the Phillies.
Whole different ballgame.
braves70
September 18th, 2009
9:08 pm
Someone please bench Cox for continnuing to pitch to Howard. Same old Cox. We’ll do it my way until it works.
Efrim
September 18th, 2009
9:09 pm
Enter your comments hereI can’t believe what the Phillies gave up for Lee and Francisco…
Roman Gal, I remember some folks saying that it was a good trade for both teams, but I am still trying to understand how the Indians did well there. The Phillies managed to keep 5 of their best 6 prospects(including Happ in there). I understand that the Phillies had a deep system, but don’t you have to get at least one of the big outfielders or Happ or Drabek there? Heck, how about Travis D’Arnaud instead of Lou Marson? Most things I have read about the two have said D’Arnaud has the higher ceiling. Plus, Carlos Santana is real close. The Lee trade was probably for salary reasons, but I still expected a better haul. Kind of discourages me about the Braves ability to get a big prospect package for Vazquez, if they choose to put him out there. 1.5 years of Lee > 1 year of Vazquez, in my opinion. But who knows.
McFann Ô
September 18th, 2009
9:09 pm
RHR I’m taking a stab at everyone pitching to Howard. Stop it already!
Sorry…
TnBrian Those Philly players are just laughing their [butts] off at Hudson and Mac.
Watch it, buddy. If BMac wouldn’t have caught that guy stealing this would be a 4-1 game…
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
9:09 pm
RYAN HOWARD HAS HIT 4 HRS IN HIS LAST 6 ABS AT TURNER FIELD!!!
brent a.
September 18th, 2009
9:10 pm
During Phillies games, we should just sticky a few comments about pitching to Howard at the top of the blog.
It’s silly. I had stepped away and didn’t get to hear whatever veiled shots Don Sutton MAY HAVE taken at Bobby after this dinger.
What a joke.
lexbrave
September 18th, 2009
9:10 pm
remember back when bonds was juicing and he was hitting every other pitch out of the park and one manager walked him with the bases loaded to bring in a run just to save giving up 4? now that guy was a smart manager. it takes a lot less intelligence to put a guy on with the bases loaded and make someone else beat you.
McFann Ô
September 18th, 2009
9:10 pm
Yay, BMac!
lexbrave
September 18th, 2009
9:10 pm
bases empty i meant to type
RHR
September 18th, 2009
9:10 pm
Oh is that why Mr. Enigma? Color me unconvinced.
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
9:11 pm
See ya’ll tomorrow…..Philly’s got this one in the bag.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
9:12 pm
C’ mon Braves!!!
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks and Bobby Cox has it out for Escobar
September 18th, 2009
9:12 pm
would have been nice to have Esco up there
Tomahawkin
September 18th, 2009
9:12 pm
What a BS call! Come on Blue!
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
9:12 pm
C’mon Infante!!!
bravesgrl4life
September 18th, 2009
9:13 pm
Okay, we just got fubarred there. No way he was out.
McFann Ô
September 18th, 2009
9:13 pm
SAFE, DANGIT!!!
Scott
September 18th, 2009
9:13 pm
Sure would’ve been nice to have Escobar instead of cruddy Infante up there.
Braves Paisan
September 18th, 2009
9:13 pm
Mitchell, I don’t remember the game you cite with the basket catch, but I have to say that in CF, Andruw played as hard (and as well if not better) than any centerfielder I ever saw in fifty years watching the game. Man, one year he almost broke 500 put-outs — and if I remember my idol Mickey Mantle never broke 400, and even Willie didn’t get close to 500 (I just checked — 448 was his high) during a period with fewer strikeouts. Andruw did the job in CF.
Johnny Bravo
September 18th, 2009
9:14 pm
Is anybody watching this atrocious managing by Cox? I am a diehard Braves & Bobby Cox fan, but Cox’s reluctance to walk Howard is flat out Little League B.S.. I mean come on, how many home runs is this guy gonna slap in your face before you wake up. We had no issue walking Bonds years ago. Here we have a legit shot at pulling off a Rockies type year ending streak and we are still pitching to this guy?
Granted, Hudson couldn’t have placed a nicer pitch for his ole buddy Howard up there with a frickin’ T-Ball stand.
I love Bobby Cox but it is time to hang up the spikes, baby.
McFann Ô
September 18th, 2009
9:14 pm
He was SAFE by 3 FREAKIN’ MILES!!
Why do umps hate us so much this year?
Kelly's Johnson
September 18th, 2009
9:14 pm
OK…I give up…Esco has grown up and matured greatly ….I think all the Braves players love his style of play…and really enjoy playing with him…he sets a fine example that all the other Braves should follow…
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
9:14 pm
Howard has hit five homers off Hudson in his last three starts against the Phillies
lexbrave
September 18th, 2009
9:14 pm
Wow, does that 1st base ump have money on the game or something? that’s one of the worst blown calls i’ve seen in 20+ years of watching baseball… that wasn’t even a bang bang play.
braves70
September 18th, 2009
9:15 pm
lexBrave, I am pretty sure it was Buck Showalter that walked Bonds with the bases loaded. Maybe he can atke over for Cox next year.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
9:15 pm
Warning Track Power!
Danga
September 18th, 2009
9:15 pm
Sorry Mitchell…Didn’t mean to be rude, but I think you need an anxiolytic before you watch the game sometimes. Your BP must go through the roof.
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
9:15 pm
Sorry, still here.
Jake is absolutely right. Yunel is a better player than he was last year, he’s one of the best players on this team. He’s matured from the way he was last year, he’s more mature than he was in April and even more so than the game against the Mets with the failed hit and run.
Bobby is a f***ing idiot. It’s like Chase Utley is some arthritic 45 year old at second.
That’s disrespectful to Chase Utley as far as I’m concerned.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
9:16 pm
DOB,
My stats are better…
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
9:16 pm
McFann, if McCann would make it a point to go to the mound or at least hit the ground with his glove, ANYTHING, when Howard is up then it might be 2-1 Braves.
Mr. Enigma
September 18th, 2009
9:16 pm
Infante was way safe. Not even close.
Gemini
September 18th, 2009
9:16 pm
This is why I never thought we’d get back into the wild card race, despite a 7 game winning streak. Cox simply makes bad decisions when we get into the clutch. Despite having our best offense all year, Cox puts a slumping Chipper in and benches Escobar for the most minor infraction. Way to rock the boat, Bobby.
Timbo
September 18th, 2009
9:17 pm
Bobby Cox must’ve got some bad cigars. He’s smoking something for sure. Why continue pitching to Howard if you haven’t figured out how to get him out?
Jake W.
September 18th, 2009
9:17 pm
Don’t mean to over state the obvious but once again the braves offense has gone m.i.a. Say what you will about Howard, but its 3 runs up there on the board. Didn’t the Mets do that twice last series and we swept them. This once again falls on the offense.
Marc from FL
September 18th, 2009
9:17 pm
I wish this offense would remember that we have no power and stop trying to go yard every at-bat
TBrown
September 18th, 2009
9:17 pm
FREE ESCOBAR
Arizona Brave
September 18th, 2009
9:18 pm
Why in the world do we pitch to Ryan Howard?! How many homers does he have to hit before Bobby starts walking him?
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
September 18th, 2009
9:18 pm
God hates the Braves, its clear…
lexbrave
September 18th, 2009
9:18 pm
braves70, you’re right, it was showalter..and the next hitter lined out and the diamondbacks won 8-7