3:29 pm September 18, 2009, by David O'Brien
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 20094:28 pm
Nova Scotia Steve,
That’s what I’m talking about – in his ribs. Howard, Werth, Ibanez rank in the top 10 in strikeouts. They can be pitched to!
Just A Fan
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried about the Perverbial Elephant in the Room
Chipper must of had one of his “talks” with Bobby.
Let’s hope he drives a couple balls tonight and it not the anti-christ.
September 18th, 20094:29 pm
They already changed the lineup — CHIPPER is back in – DOB
Crap! I really liked Captain Caveman in the 3 spot
hey, where’s Rally McTurtle?
Classic Bobby Cox team – lose the games you must win (Cincinnati and split Marlins) then win the games after the race is decided. This team is nothing more than a tease and they will be watching the games on TV in October.
September 18th, 20094:31 pm
Just A Fan,
Fan of what?
So….I like that Chipper is trying to get back in the game. But with the way that Prado/Infante are playing, why rush? Having them in the game tonight gives us a) better defense, b) better hitting based on Chipper lately, and c) a chance for Chipper to get healthier so he doesn’t reaggravate anything trying to be a hero tonight. The one advantage we get from Chipper is that he’ll probably see more pitches than Infante…but that’s really about it. Why risk it at this point?
September 18th, 20094:32 pm
RC – Exactly!
Panties in a wad
I know it probably just seems this way, but…… Are the Braves really a better team without Chipper now? Or is this just a team playing “lossey-goosey” as described in a earlier blog? And why couldnt they play that way sooner? Chokers? Too dispassionate? Cox sux?
So many questions……
September 18th, 20094:33 pm
I couldn’t agree more Lew.
I agree with walking Ryan Howard whenever possible. It would help dramatically!
September 18th, 20094:34 pm
I ESPECIALLY don’t like Chipper coming back on a night Huddy’s pitching. Vazquez, JJ, and Hanson strike guys out….Huddy needs his defense to be strong. By putting Chipper in, we have downgraded our infield D at 2 positions (Prado > Chipper at 3b, Infante > Prado at 2b).
You Know Who
September 18th, 20094:35 pm
I will ASSURE that we don’t advance to any playoffs. Why? Because huntin’ season is almost ‘ready to roll’ as we say in Texas, so can’t have any distractions from my love of Huntin’ Deer! Fishin’ is also fun and I ain’t about to tap out on my love for some silly October baseball….. been there, done it.
And Chipper playing with the Howard shift on……ok, I’ve got to let this go. Hope he has a great night.
September 18th, 20094:38 pm
Getting swept by the Reds at home is REALLY going to come back and haunt us. Unless the Braves sweep the Phillies this weekend, we’re done.
The fact that the Braves have done well without Chipper in the lineup, can the argument be made that Chipper hurts the team when he is in the lineup (given his current slump)?
Enjoy the ride, folks! It has been a few years since we had hope in September.
September 18th, 20094:39 pm
Chipper can only hurt this team right now. With the lefty on the mound, let Omar start. He must have had his feelings hurt when the offense started scoring runs without him.
The Captain Caveman thing with Diaz? Uh, that nickname was already pinned on another player by Chipper. Find a different nickname
September 18th, 20094:40 pm
Since Chipper has “inserted” himself into the lineup – the Braves lose! Bank on it. The team is playing as a team without him – don’t “fix” something that is working!!
They won’t get more than 30,000 and tomorrow will sadly on Ssturday it could be worse because people here are so focused on their college football. This will be a fun series with some really compelling pitching matchups. The Braves can’t slip anymore, but everyone here knows that already. A loss tonight and it’s over. I think the Phils will take 2 of 3 and quietly push the Braves backwards. A sweep would really help, as the Phils have no more easy series – from here it is FL, 4 in MIL, 4 with HOU and 3 with FL. You never know – I just don’t see them faltering with their confidence level and the way they play on the road. Someone mentioned the other day that the Phils had been swept just twice on the road this year (ATL and HOU) plus a 2 game road sweep at NYM and have only lost 6 of 24 series on the road this year. That’s pretty stout.
Chipper’s hemmi’s were started to swell up, and he begged Cox to put him in.
September 18th, 20094:41 pm
Can we boo that big MF Howard when he walks to the plate? Lets get off the hands and let stink butt here a nice round of boos.
As I mentioned, I’ve been working on “making the intangibles tangible”, so to speak, trying to quantify all that clutchy/scrappy/gutty/urgent stuff that people so like in not-much-talent-but-I-try-real-hard players. After much work, and bow-downs from McCracken and James, plus an offer from Epstein to consult (turned it down; this stuff belongs to the masses), here are the sabermetric measures developed:
ClutchA – Adjusted Clutch, or “clutchiness” – per-game average clutch, adjusted relative to the player’s daily biometrics and contents of the pre-game buffet
GORP – Guts Over Replacement Player – Self-explanatory.
UI – Urgency Index – composite point total of game moments played with a “sense of urgency”, indexed against game effort given. Indexes above 110% are good.
And, finally, GRIT+ – or, “scrappiness” quotient. Raw numbers are adjusted against the league average or David Eckstein’s, whichever is greater.
There you have it. Now when you have some favorite player with infield-fly power, brick-wall hands, and refrigerator speed, you’ll have some statistical evidence to fall back on when you say, “Yeah, but he’s a winner.” LOL
September 18th, 20094:42 pm
Good blog Bob Villa, I mean DOB.
I was liking the line up with Diaz in the 3 hole & Escobar in 5 hole, but now with Chipper back in he will be clogging up the middle of the order. I feel dirty in saying this, but I wish Chipper just stayed on the bench for a few more games.
September 18th, 20094:43 pm
Bobby said I can sit where Chipper did! Oh Boy!
nothing against Chipper but WE HAVE BEEN WINNING WITHOUT HIM…….first sweep of any team in along time. Good grief, Cox simply can’t stand success. I am just shaking my head in disbelief. IF Chipper had been hitting like he used to hit, that would be different…..but he ain’t hittin’ worth crap.
September 18th, 20094:44 pm
Lets give Chipper and his recent .133 average the benefit of the doubt…LET THE HALL OF FAMER PLAY!
September 18th, 20094:45 pm
They won’t get more than 30,000 and sadly on Ssturday it could be worse because people here are so focused on their college football. This will be a fun series with some really compelling pitching matchups. The Braves can’t slip anymore, but everyone here knows that already. I think the Phils will take 2 of 3 and quietly push the Braves backwards. A sweep would really help, and the Phils have no more easy series – from here it is 3 at FL, 4 in MIL, 4 with HOU and 3 with FL. You never know – I just don’t see the Phils faltering with their confidence level and the way they play on the road. Someone mentioned the other day that the Phils had been swept just twice on the road this year (ATL and HOU) plus a 2 game road sweep at NYM and have only lost 6 of 22 series on the road this year. That’s pretty stout. Too many variables for the Braves to overcome in both races. Good progress though.
Chipper is 1-3 against Happ. Single, Groundout and Flyout.
I love the Braves . . . that said, they are done for this year
Keep Chipper on the bench till they lose a game, last thing they need is to see him go up there in the 1st inning, strikeout looking really bad because he’s not healty or is still “tired” and they all follow his funk to a Zero run 3 hit game.
Don’t forget about BPLY (Ballplayer). This is a bianary statistic that is either true or false, as in, “I’ll tell you this right now, Garret Anderson is just a BALLPLAYER.”
captain Caveman- don’t know about the chipper reference…what player did he give the nickname to? All i know is that i’ve heard it in reference to Diaz from many, including Joe and Boog.
September 18th, 20094:46 pm
Hey Scoots…Could tackle professional next? Not exactly the same as scrappy or urgency but also hard to define.
September 18th, 20094:47 pm
I was really liking the lineup for tonight…till Chipper decided he wanted a piece of the action. I guess I just don’t understand the reasoning behind messing with something that’s been working for the last 7 games. We need to win (ie SWEEP) the Phils. I don’t know if that’s possible with CJ playing tonight. *Sigh*
September 18th, 20094:48 pm
Lets not start the Chipper hate just yet. He does seem to play better when given a few days off and with such a gifted hitter, you almost have to have faith that he’ll break out sometime.
I’m worried about the elephant in the room
There is a high correlation between BPLY (Ballplayer) and PRHT (Professional Hitter).
September 18th, 20094:49 pm
“I’m worried about the elephant in the room”
Don’t worry, the elephant relieved himself before we let him inside.
September 18th, 20094:51 pm
Did anyone else enjoy the “top 25″ plays last night on Sportsouth as much as I did during the rain delay? Brought back a LOT of memories…..especially Rick Camp’s home run on July 4th.
September 18th, 20094:54 pm
Welp…scoots gets my first ever version of that award Lew gives out.
My award is simply called … The Kickass Award. And here is what you win – http://tinyurl.com/lnm7br
Just let me know your size, and if you aren’t sure about the size, just read the reviews.
Working on it, RC, LOL. You can’t just pull these highly complex computations out of the air, you know.
Brian the Brain
September 18th, 20094:57 pm
Off to the house…can’t wait to get home and see what DOB has to say about Chipper.
TnBrian, not hating on Chipper, but why not move him to 7th or8th in the order until that “breakout” comes? I mean there an unspoken rule about this? Why does Cox stick him the 3rd spot even when Chipper says “a walk is a moral victory”, and “I’m just tired”? Just asking…
September 18th, 20094:58 pm
RHR, that’s entirely too kind. I have to think first before accepting, though, LOL. The shirt might be altogether too cool for me.
DOB — the Braves are 4.5 back with 16 to play and TWO teams in front of them. It will take a miracle for them to get in. You make it sound like a 50-50 scenario. It ain’t gonna happen.
September 18th, 20095:00 pm
Also, love that you guys are bashing Chipper mere seconds after his name appeared on the lineup card, keep it coming, tool sheds. You know how I love the baseball gods.
KJ riding the bench again
September 18th, 20095:01 pm
Keep it up, can you predict all things future?
September 18th, 20095:02 pm
September 18th, 20095:03 pm
Just Pat –
Yes! I enjoyed the Top 25 plays last night. Much better than the usual junk they play during delays.
Scoots…That post wast great. But RHR…That link is one of the funniest things I have ever read.
DOB, to answer your question “are you in” , I never jumped off the wagon just got a extra tv with sat hookup to watch football as we ride this ever moving unstable bandwagon into the wildcard.As Lexus would say a “September to remember” (or December)
Right where he needs to be.
September 18th, 20095:06 pm
chc4 – Atlanta is 1 game behind San Fran…you make it sound like it may take a week to catch them and move into second place….it’s one game.
The Giants are also playing the Dodgers this weekend…If we take care of business we’re in second place by the end of the weekend.
Check out Woody P’s message on “Around The Horn”. It says, “Money is the root of all wealth”.
Joey, I believe what Ron Gant said about all this. He said about a week ago that Bobby doesn’t want to draw attention to his players, especially a high profile one like Jones, by benching him or dropping him in the order. I disagree with Cox by batting him 3rd, but I’ll bet he doesn’t do it because of what Gant said.
September 18th, 20095:07 pm
Crap Chip is in I previously said 6-4 Braves, that was before i knew Chip was in. 4-3 Phils tonight. Darn.
Hey…the man’s hitting .417 in the month of September.
September 18th, 20095:08 pm
D*mn…. Chipper’s back in the lineup. Prado has been playing a great 3B and we certainly have not missed Chipper’s bat during these last few games.
I have been “with” the Braves since 1982 and enjoyed the “thrill of victory and the agony of defeat” and have never, ever given up on them……even if it’s only been to say “wait ’til next year” when they’ve been eliminated.
Yeah, comming off the bench mostly.
Tiger Woods – so you think that with Omar Infante, the cornerstone of this lineup, the Braves will score 2 more runs than if Chipper was in instead of him?
NC Braves Fan
September 18th, 20095:09 pm
Should be a fun weekend of baseball! Seeing how the Braves are playing now makes me think about all those games that McLouth, Yunel and to a lesser extent Prado missed … and of course Chipper struggling so much the past couple of months.
What might have been …
September 18th, 20095:10 pm
It’s no fun being I Hater. I AM IN. Go Braves!!!
He dosn’t hit right-handed pitching. Weired, wouldn’t you say?
Oh, yeah…..and have taken TONS of teasing over my “never say die” attitude, too.
September 18th, 20095:11 pm
Good point WBC. If you get a hit coming off the bench then that means the hit doesn’t count.
It’s not his fault he’s coming off the bench.
jeffrey d – Chipper is hitting 3rd. Omar is hitting 8th. With Chipper in the lineup, we have a hole in the middle of the order and now two of our better hitters right now are hitting 7th and 8th. We’re also worse defensively with Chipper in and Prado at 2B, and that’s a big deal with Huddy on the mound.
I’ve gone so far as to nickname him F7 or 4-3.
Chipper back in…just great. Well, the run was good while it lasted. Let the Geezers back in to try to re-live past glory and piss it all away. Hey, RHR, if he does better that one single with no errors, I’ll kiss your butt in the town square
September 18th, 20095:13 pm
I’m seeing a lot of overreacting at the news of Chipper in the lineup.
Good to have the blog back in order.
September 18th, 20095:14 pm
I like KJ alot and thought he had turned the corner this year. But really, you’d have to admit that he really hasn’t.
September 18th, 20095:15 pm
well, at least some are writing with that much needed “sense of urgency.”
September 18th, 20095:16 pm
The team is hot, the schedule is favorable. Not sure if I’m buying, but I am enjoying as I look ahead to 2010!
September 18th, 20095:17 pm
Just like yes, the Braves CAN do it, Chipper also CAN do it…..whether or not it happens, well…. we’ll see, I guess.
I kind of perfer the “lightning in a bottle” approach KJ may give us as a pinch hitter.
September 18th, 20095:18 pm
Makes a lot of sense doesn’t it? Omar’s raking, sit him down and bring the powerhouse Larry back in.
So much for the winning streak.
Jeffrey d, yes the other Tiger is right.
September 18th, 20095:19 pm
I think I should be starting.
September 18th, 20095:21 pm
Thanks TNBrian, I get it. It’s a “Bobby Cox is a player’s manager” thing…
I got my laptop fixed and everthang!
COL will go 8 – 8
PHI will go 10 – 7
ATL will have to go 13 – 3 (or 14 – 2)
September 18th, 20095:22 pm
Chipper will homer tonight.
September 18th, 20095:23 pm
There’s no question Greg Norton get a pivitol at-bat tonight…It’s almost guarnteed.
It’s a “Bobby Cox is a player’s manager” thing…
Hence, He should be the new bench coach…
September 18th, 20095:24 pm
RE: Greg Norton
Notice I say at-bat and not “a hit”
I’m not saying KJ should be hitting cleanup and given a gigantic raise. I’d just like to see him in the lineup more than once a week. Bobby even called on Greg Norton to pinch before him the other day. Greg Norton! I thought those days were over.
September 18th, 20095:25 pm
Right, Tiger’s Wood, we are stuck with this zillionaire-player-coddling until Cox retires. I’ll bet Mrs Cox is ready for his retirement – been a lot of backhands after losses the last few years I’ll bet…
September 18th, 20095:26 pm
WBC…..can’t remember the year from the top 25 last night but we can always HOPE that he has a repeat performance of his very own back to back to back homers. It HAS happened!
Not only is JJ’s laptop fixed, but he can also foresee the future
Nova Scotia — If we go 12-4 the last 16, Colorado only needs to win 8 of 15 to clinch. They’ve been plaing .600+ balls since firing their manager 3-4 months ago. Oh and 9 of their 15 games are against San Diego, Arizona and Milwaukee. I’d say there’s about a 1% chance of that all happening. And that assumes the Giants don’t keep up.
I’m just saying all this hope is wishful thinking.
Some time back, there was a “guide to being a true fan” mentioned. I was afraid that this guide might have an appendix listing what sports you could and could not follow and still be considered a “true baseball fan.”
As the owner of said book, I feel it is my duty to tell you that there is such an appendix. Basically, it said that a real baseball fan shall not watch or follow any lame sport. It specifically mentions Curling and Cheerleading. Sorry pal….
September 18th, 20095:27 pm
Damn straight. It’s a new app…
I think I liked it better when the 12 year olds were not here.
Brave in WV
September 18th, 20095:28 pm
For all of you that say we are done and have no chance, I better not be seeing you at the Ted if we make the playoffs. Deal?
Jason Marquis and the Rockies lose to Arizona tonight!
September 18th, 20095:29 pm
Just make sure you use those powers for good, JJ. That’s a mighty powerful responsibility you have.
September 18th, 20095:30 pm
It would be a MIRACLE if the Braves pull this one OFF. I am talking about 1991 kind of season..remember the good times remember the early 90’s, Fransisco Cabrera, Fred McGriff and the king of it all Sid Bream…I get teary eyed whenever I remember Sid’s slide to the plate and Skip’s Braves win Braves win….scream…REMEMBER that folks WOW.. why not I am going to watch the games with my family at the Ted this weekend, c’mon folks they need us, lets get behind them…. WE ARE STILL ALIVE yes we are..GO BRAVES…!
September 18th, 20095:31 pm
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