3:29 pm September 18, 2009, by David O'Brien
September 19th, 20091:30 am
Tomahawkin – you were the first to sign in
Soph – who’s slow now?
September 19th, 20091:31 am
I was almost twelve in ‘91. I shed a tear or two when the Braves lost to the Twins. The last time I got really mad at a Braves team was 2002. That was the NLDS where Glavine got blitzed by the Giants. After that, I backed off. I realized that this team just wasn’t as good as it used to be. I probably should have known that earlier, but I wanted to have some hope.
Anyway, I couldn’t care less about this team making the postseason. This team doesn’t pique my interest. It doesn’t intrigue me. Maybe it’s just a matter of me growing up or something, but I need more than a tease to ignite my fanhood’s heart light.
(I liked typing that.)
In fact, I think I’m going to need the Braves to be bad for a while before I can really get worked up over seeing them have a winning season. When I say “bad for a while,” I mean five or six losing seasons in a row. Maybe ten. Yeah, ten.
September 19th, 20091:32 am
Here’s The link
D.O.B. is Living Large!
September 19th, 20091:33 am
Oh, I know I’m slow. I don’t deny it.
That sets the Braves up for a dramatic 2020 comeback
September 19th, 20091:34 am
I didn’t know that I was the First One…WOW
Did I post “First” like so many do on this blog…?
September 19th, 20091:36 am
No it was just like “Tomahawkin representing”
Awww, look at everyone. It is weird seeing faces with names now.
September 19th, 20091:39 am
Isn’t it? The people you picture as young are old, ugly are attractive, male are female, etc.
September 19th, 20091:40 am
I do remember that, lol Its been months since I posted that I might need to throw some of my joking lingo phrases on there (Bank On It, Hoe Sit Down, etc)
September 19th, 20091:41 am
Enter your comments here
Kind of like when we saw DOB up there for the first time. We all had different mental images of him, then all of a sudden, there he was. What some of us pictured, and for others, far from it.
September 19th, 20091:42 am
That IS unbelievable!
September 19th, 20091:43 am
Yeah because you have a mental image in your head and it’s usually not even close to the actual thing.
T’Hawkin – my personal fav is ho’ sit down.
Alright, as fun as it’s been creeping with you guys (and at the risk of having 3 consecutive comments), I need to get to bed.
Goodnight everyone…I’ll be ready for some football/baseball tomorrow
September 19th, 20091:44 am
I’m gonna have to start a post on there explaining what a BF is and Have instances during the season that resulted in me having a BF
September 19th, 20091:45 am
You have a BF Tomahawkin?
September 19th, 20091:46 am
Yeah he had multiple BF’s last month.
That doesn’t sound right, huh?
“As for Esco: Folks, let’s face it, Cox and other managers and coaches in other sports view old guys with bad wheels differently than in-their-prime dudes, and expect the latter to run out ground balls like that, etc. And really, that’s not too much to ask. Gotta do it, man”
this is crap…Bobby only makes examples out of Yunel and everyone here knows it. How many grounders have we seen Chipper or Anderson not run out? He’s never pulled Anderson on any of his lazy routes to fly balls in LF. Bobby’s act is getting old. He’s too loyal to some and never trust others. I can pretty much guarantee that one of Yunel or Bobby wont be around next season and Im pretty sure we can guess what will happen.
Bobby is still batting Laroche 7th/8th?? also. Guys this man is done as a manager. We get to see all of Soriano/Gonzo/Moylan in games where we are leading by 4 or 5 runs, but when the game is on the line and its close we get Logan/Acosta/Nunez/Medlen? I am officially done as a Bobby Cox supporter. Please Wren do something about this.
September 19th, 20091:47 am
G’night if you’re leaving, jeffrey.
September 19th, 20091:49 am
I once told an ex-girlfriend this:
“Ho, sit down!”
She turned around, gave me an evil stare, and said this:
“Boy, you are gonna get clowned! Bank on it!”
As you can imagine, Tomahawkin brings back a lot of memories.
September 19th, 20091:50 am
lmao Chop Chop. You crack me up.
September 19th, 20091:54 am
I can’t Believe at all the people who don’t know what “Clowning” means…
Chop Chop And Soph
Thanks for getting that “Hoe Sit Down” Song In my head, The Lyrics are garbage but that song rules at a party
Just too bad that I haven’t been able to say that Phrase a lot this year because we get our asses handed to us by teams like the Phillies Sox and Bankees…
I hate losing to those teams…I did enjoy beating the crap out of the Cardinals, I hate their bandwagon fans
September 19th, 20091:55 am
Giants win ! enough said !
September 19th, 20091:59 am
lol T’Hawkin you put a definition of bf on the wall? Haaa.
Ghost of Shane Vendrell
September 19th, 20092:01 am
The thing with Yunel, I just don’t think Cox is the right manager to relate to him. Growing up in Cuba, listening to all the propaganda, and still giving the middle finger to Castro shows an independent streak right there. Combine that with his youth, his fiery nature, and his troubles with English and it isn’t hard to see why a guy like Cox wouldn’t like him. And that’s a big sticking point with Cox, liking you. He trots Norton and Anderson out there because he likes them and they can do no wrong. Take a look at GA’s August and September lines, they are ugly. And even if you still insist on playing him you have to bat him 8th. But because Cox likes him he shoves him in the middle of the order to fail fail fail fail fail. Not only that but poor Yunel not only has to play SS but he has to play left field too. And if you want to say Garret is old and doesn’t have good wheels so it’s ok for him not to hustle on almost sure outs then ok, I can accept that. But how does that excuse his laziness in the field? Balls drop at his feet like they stay in Paris Hilton’s face. And he rarely ever backs up groudballs hit to the left side of the infield, costing runs on several occasions.
A lot of other managers, they would see Escobar’s talent and try to adapt their styles when dealing with them. Nobody is telling Bobby he has to like the guy or invite him over for Christmas dinner, just don’t let your dislike for him affect the way you treat him and I believe Bobby does this. Considering the Braves were pretty dead set on dealing Escobar last winter, even with no replacement anywhere in sight, tells me something. It tells me Bobby wants him gone and the club was willing to comply. A couple of months ago I heard the former Blue Jays GM say that the 2 toughest positions to field were a good hitting catcher and a defensive star at SS that can hit. We have BOTH of those things, yet this ballclub and it’s manager seem dead set on ridding itself of one of them.
September 19th, 20092:04 am
Yep, I had Multiple BF’s last month, It wasn’t Pretty…
Mitchell had a few of his own as well, I’m a lot more Compassionate than he is, lol (Joking)
September 19th, 20092:12 am
Wow, I forgot that D.O.B.’s Brother is in that Facebook group, I’m suprised that Boog isn’t in on the action…
September 19th, 20092:16 am
you are to young to be a cynic. seriously, i have watched three market meltdowns.
saw a ton of wealth lost in 1996 when interest rates spiked.
saw the dot com bubble burst in march of 2000. saw the 9/11 thing.
saw the market rebounnd in 2003.
saw the collaterized debt market bring, bear stearns, lehman, and merril lynch down.
hey flange, you know i called it. told braves dave it was coming.
got laughed at but i called it in 2007.
either way chop chop being a cynic is easy.
September 19th, 20092:20 am
mitchell thanks for being a good sport, it was not personal.
September 19th, 20092:23 am
bas where are you.
kinda like fred flinstone calling out the great gazoo.
gotta be at least 35 to get it.
September 19th, 20092:35 am
on a baseball note, this was better then expected.
like dave said 6 under to ten over .500.
16 games over since the end of june. with chipper hitting nothing.
yeah blame #6, great stuff guys. you will miss him, i guarantee.
over 162 it is about someone that keeps a clubhouse united. bobby has always done that.
like scoots always says we need a thug in the middle. actually we need two.
kc was brazen when he said, “yeah but we might have eight that will hit 15.”
well give me a leadoff guy and two that will hit thirty in the middle and the braves will and should take their chances.
September 19th, 20092:47 am
maybe i should take bill maher to a georgia football game.
that would be interesting. he sure would be popular.
September 19th, 20092:51 am
i agree its been better than expected and hey we were out of it by july last year. at least we made it til september coach would prolly say 2010 or bust if he was still a braves fan but he quit in june when the freight train came along
night yall go dawgs go huskies go …. vols? yuck
September 19th, 20092:57 am
Boone Logan? They used Boone Logan tonight. I thought he was in the witness protection program. But, he came in and gave Ryan Howard a well deserved plunking. Howard looked like, Why you throwin at me? (after hitting 2 home runs) Good thing he`s a docile type. It could get ugly if he got upset and did something about it.
September 19th, 20093:02 am
my wife is a penn state grad. so in nine hours i will be at famous pub in toocoo hills to watch the penn state temple game.
i know it sounds riveting. penn state has outscored them 142-3 in the last three years.
at one time ella guru was there. i used to walk up there at halftime.
never asked don if he had any whitesnake though.
it was a great record shop. think john cusack in high fidelity.
penn state plays nobody out of conference.
so after that i will stumble in to my favorite place 6 hours later and watch the dawgs. god love saturdays. selah.
Bob (...dig in and I am going to knock you on your ass) Gibson
September 19th, 20093:43 am
Down by 2…still in the game and you bring in Vladimir Nunez! WHY? I certainly hope you are not surprised by the results…since he has not pitched in a major league game the entire year. Joe Torre would not have made this move…nor most any other manager with a pulse.
Are you frickin’ kidding me?
Are you trying to not make the post season? Moves like this will certainly guarantee the Braves not getting there in 2009!
Thanks Bobby. You have done a fantastic job of juggling the bullpen this year. NOT HARDLY!
September 19th, 20093:58 am
is anybody still on here? missed the game tonight and am going thru the blog reading that bobby pulled escobar early in the game, decided to pitch to howard and gave up 2 HRs (again?!), and batted la roche 8th. WOW. is this true? i wont even comment til i know it’s true. dear god man.
September 19th, 20094:16 am
just found dob’s game story. sounds like a freakin’ fiasco. we’ve got 16 games left, playing the phils, down by 4 & a half in the WC, and cox pulls escobar out of the game after 2 innings? is this some perverse joke? now’s not the time for a “teachable moment!” pull esco aside and chew him out in front of the team–have chino cadahia sit on him until he repents–but forgodsakes leave your best player in the game! really. i just cant believe this one. meanwhile, cox hasnt figured out BY NOW not to pitch to howard? this stuff’s unforgivable. i just jumped off the braves bandwagon and onto robert’s bandwagon. he’s been calling cox a ‘donkey’ forever. well, okay, maybe i’m exaggerating about jumping onto any bandwagon robert’s captaining, but i will say that he picked an apt symbol for cox. stubborn as a mule, and about as useful.
September 19th, 20096:52 am
No magic in this team unfortunately. Have we had a walk off HR this year? Same ole, same ole. GA isn’t going to be here next year. Thank him for his contributions this year, congratulate him on a nice career and put him on the bench and shift Diaz over to LF the rest of the year. Not sold on Church in RF but no alternatives for this year’s squad. Shake it up a little. Not GA’s fault but he epitimizes what’s wrong with this club. SLOW, mediocre defensively and lefthanded bat. Move up Diaz to leadoff and bring Nate down, move up Roachy. Shake it up man, 14 games left. There is absolutely nothing magical about this club this year.
September 19th, 20097:41 am
I recommend not listening to DOB… He is just like every other writer who wants to stir up controversy where there isn’t any. Don’t get me wrong, he’s okay, but to keep throwing out these stats about how bad the Braves were in the beginning and then say how much better they have been but!! Too bad they sucked early or they may have been in the playoffs.
This is unrealistic thinking any only intended to stir up the heat. He is simply playing with your emotions.
Let’s look at a few things here…
1. We had the team that we had early in the season. I think Wren has done another remarkable job patching together a respectable team without spending a dime. HOWEVER, IT TOOK TIME TO DO THAT! So it took half a season to make the repairs. Despite what they guys on Star Trek seem to do on daily basis, we cannot turn back time. I think we are lucky to be where we are now believe me.
2. Teams play 162 games for a reason. You can pick just about ANY 74 game stretch for ANY TEAM where they were mediocre. The Yankees weren’t playing so well their first 74 games–does anyone remember that??? You can say, “Well if the Braves had only won 5 more games…” YOU CAN SAY THAT ABOUT ANY TEAM! They just stunk their first 74 games. I think this team is LUCKY to have been only 34-40. That’s only 6 games under .500. I think everyone should be complaining if they were 20-54, but it’s just the way it is. It is unfortunate that DOB has to interpret the stats negatively. Anyone can take any stat and massage it to look positive or negative depending on the circumstances. Big whoop, move on.
3. About the only thing you can say is: THIS TEAM HAS BEEN UNDERPERFORMING. But is that really true? Does anyone seriously think this team is a 90+ win team considering what happened early in the year? Maybe the team is now, but over our LAST 162 games, I don’t think so.
4. Does anyone seriously think this team would have put up a decent fight against any of the projected play off teams? Hah! I could see them going 0-3 in the first round very easily. The team just has too many holes in the line up—great pitching but very inconsistent offense. Get some great pitching from great teams (since it’s unlikely the Bravos are going to see any 4th or 5th starters) and they are going down. So what is the point of even making the playoffs??? I’m not particularly excited about going to war knowing I’m going to die within seconds of appearing on the battlefield! No thanks. I’d rather wait until next year. Come on: You’ve seen how they have been killed by the Phillies!
Not saying we can’t complain about the season, not saying any whining is underserved, not saying Bobby Cox has done a great job so shut up… Not saying anything of the kind. Just saying we shouldn’t be so depressed that this is another lost season. Let’s look at the bright side.
1. We have one of the best management teams in all of baseball. Yeah, Wren really messed up during the off season but then he also shined remarkably. I’ve always believed that it’s not the road you take but where you end up. So I firmly believe that Wren WILL address the teams needs. You can’t say that about a lot of teams. I’ve been watching the Utah Jazz for 25+ years and they have always been good but the darn ownership has NEVER done what it takes to move up that extra step to get them over the top. It is very frustrating–especially since it has been over a quarter century! At least the Braves have “been there done that”.
2. 2010 is going to be a very interesting year because this team has been playing very good baseball during the second half and it is likely to carry over to next year. But again 34-40 is not that bad. It is only 6 games under .500. Come on!!! Let’s get real here. If the team even does slight better than .500 I’ll be happy. Why? Because this team ALWAYS addresses its needs and builds on past success. It is not surprising that they do better in the second half of EVERY YEAR. It is be design, not luck, not “will to win”, but because they know HOW to win through key trades and bringing up talent from the minors to fill holes. That’s fundamental baseball my friends.
3. The Bravos have a very bright future!! I believe Jason Heyward is coming up to play in the big time as of spring training and he is going to stay. All of the stuff you read about his minor league experience says, “He has all the tools and there isn’t anything we can teach him.” His own manager at Myrtle Beach said this very thing before he tore it up in Mississippi, batting .400 most of the season until an injury slowed him down. But man, he still batted .352! We all know that AA and AAA is pretty much the same so it wouldn’t be surprising to see him playing in Atlanta all year next year. NO, HE IS NOT ANYTHING LIKE FRANCOEUR so forget that comparison. He is ready. Period. So there is your big bat in RF that this team needs. WE could even see Jordan Schafer coming back by about June after he proves that he is worthy at Gwinnett. That would be icing on the cake.
4. We are likely to bring back Adam LaRoche, Martin Prado was hitting great before the little head problem but that’s likely to be behind him after a long winter, Matt Diaz has started hitting well again (he needs consistent ABs to do this!!! So it was fortunate for him that Schafer didn’t make it—the man can hit people!), Yunel Escobar really blossomed and seems to be getting better every year, we will have Nate McLouth for a full year, and the best part is that it’s likely we will not have Kelly Johnson, Garret Anderson, or Greg Norton back on the team! How much more offense does this team really need? Maybe a big bat in LF? I can see it happening very easily.
5. Chipper is likely to come back from a poor hitting season. I say “likely” because we all just don’t know for certain, but I believe he has the fortitude to come back strong if he has it in himself. I just find it hard to believe that a guy can go down so quickly after having the highest batting average of his career. I think it is simply two things: he hasn’t had so many ABs in a long time so he usually gets regular long rest after his frequent injuries, and secondly, he has been using too big of a bat! He is getting older and needs to make adjustments. Given a long winter to work out the problems and I think he can come back strong. This team fortunately won’t need him to be the key guy any more but anything more than what he did this year will be another big benefit to the team.
6. Lastly, let’s not forget the pitching. Ah yes, the PITCHING! Anyone notice that not only have they been good but they have been spectacular the second half and they only seem to be getting better with maturity. I won’t get into much here because this is a HUGE strength that doesn’t need much analysis. I think it’s a given that all of the baseball gurus will pick the Braves as having the best staff in baseball over the winter. You wait and see. To think that $15 million Lowe is actually the weakest link. That is saying a lot.
So don’t look so glum! Don’t listen to DOB!!! This team will be in the playoff hunt as of day 1 next year. TRUST ME…
LOOK TO 2010 PEOPLE! GO BRAVES!!!
September 19th, 20097:54 am
Can’t afford another loss to the PHILLIES. That necessitates a sweep somewhere else. And against the NATS and PHISH that’s a tall order for the BRAVES. Sides, we got to sweep the NATS once already. So the formula to 90 wins is to win the next two from the PHILLIES, two of three from the METS, six of seven from the NATS, and two of three from the MARLINS. We owe the FISH, and should land at least three big ones and sweep the series.
September 19th, 20097:57 am
Some guys mentioned this last night, but why are the Braves pitching to Howard? He owns them. Take the bat out of his hands and walk him. Geez.
September 19th, 20098:00 am
Killed by the PHILLIES. In 2008 sure, 14 for the PHILLIES-4 for the BRAVES, but we already have nine wins this year and are looking for two more. I’m not defending DOB, but it sounds like you think he’s running some scam on us. I just don’t subscribe to your conspiracy theory.
September 19th, 20098:01 am
One other thing…
As bad as the Braves were in 2008, you should all be extremely grateful to Frank Wren for making this season possible. I thought maybe they would really stink this year because the team needed way too many fixes to even think about winning 85 games. But he made a large number of trades, probably way more than any team in the last 12 months, and look where we are…
It’s pretty clear that this team does not need that much fixing this off season. Maybe keep Adam LaRoche, figure out what to do with 6 starters–maybe not sign Tim Hudson or trade Javier Vasquez, figure out who is going to be the closer, do the annual reshuffling of the bullpen, and get a big bat for LF. That’s really nothing compared to what this team was up against last year after the WS. This team has been in reconstruction since that time all the way up to trading for LaRoche a few weeks ago.
We may not even need a big bat in LF if Heyward starts in RF and hits like we think he can (even a first year average year from him would be infinitely better than G Anderson or R Church) and Matt Diaz starts in LF (I think his 2008 season was an aberration). Heyward, McLouth, and Diaz… What’s wrong with that? Look what we had coming out of spring training!!
This team does not seem to have any glaring weaknesses and any trades will simply make this team even better. This team, right now, can win 88-90 games. A big bat in LF–someone who can hit 35-40 homers (which is a lot better than 12 from Anderson) would put this team into the 90+ win category given that we don’t let our bullpen crash and burn this off season and Chipper Jones can come back to some respectable level.
September 19th, 20098:05 am
When do we get the new pitching coach. ROGER McDOWELL is horrible. Look at the way the BRAVES staff has performed this year compared to last. Fire the bum. Bring back LEO. JUST KIDDING. Wanted to wake up the late night haters. O.K. back to sleep, lizards.
September 19th, 20098:09 am
Big bag in LF-someone who can hit 35-40 homers
That would be two in all of baseball, Bay and Dunn.
That’s not going to happen next year. We do need to get some pop somewhere. I’d be happy with 20-25.
September 19th, 20098:11 am
Big bat in LF, sorry
September 19th, 20098:13 am
20-25 homers is nice but we can get those 35-40 with McLouth, Heyward (if he hits like we think he can 20 would be nice in his first year), and Diaz or some other big bat in LF.
Look between the lines people, look between the lines… Let’s work together on our posts not against each other. We are all Braves fans…
September 19th, 20098:15 am
Someway, somehow you will need a RH hitter with some punch in 2010. I don’t how you get that without dealing Javy. Hate to see it, he’s been great but there are no trade chips on this team other than Javy and Escobar.
The post-season starts today for the Braves
September 19th, 20098:31 am
I was extremely fortunate to have missed the entire game last night, and only know the outcome from reading these blogs. Congrats to the Phillies for SPANKING our boys. They have proven that it doesn’t take managers to win games.
September 19th, 20098:32 am
Nice posts last night ugabrave.
September 19th, 20098:34 am
You guys can join me and Barbara at our place tonight and watch the Dawgs and not the Braves. (byob)
September 19th, 20098:36 am
I’m still having problems equating DOB’s opening premise question?
September 19th, 20098:38 am
It all comes down to what the definition of “it” is?
September 19th, 20098:45 am
2010 is promising and hopeful but the reality is we are still looking up at the Phils. Hamels should be better, Happ is a pitcher and fat Blanton is a much better pitcher than he gets credit for. They are tough. Jayson Werth is so under the radar with that offense and having a terrific year. Don’t be surprised if the Phils repeat this year folks. We have terrific pitching but FW will need to get some punch next year that will require more than Heyward.
closet Phillies fan
September 19th, 20098:47 am
Werth can flat out play!
September 19th, 20098:52 am
Oh yeah, forgot about reigning CY in Lee. Now I am depressed, these guys are good and will continue to be.
September 19th, 20099:03 am
It’s amazing how some of you will defend Esco to the death. The kid has all the talent in the world, but he is a moron. It’s really that simple. I don’t blame Bobby one bit for pulling his lazy azz out of that game. And don’t compare him to Chipper and GA. Like it or not, veterans are going to get more passes than young guys.
September 19th, 20099:08 am
How bad did Esco dog it down the line? I missed thie game?
September 19th, 20099:12 am
Escobar has talent and I agree he is a onion head sometimes. What happen to him? I remember when he came up in 07 he had a lot of baseball savvy and looked like our best baserunner with instincts. Still a great fielder and incredible arm. He’s a good hitter and they have him where he should be batting. He’s a 6th hole guy and can be productive. I don’t know about Bobby pulling him out last night but he did dog it on the groundball. Pull him or take him aside and chew him a new one, not sure what the call should have been. I do know Bobby’s magic worked again with Infante grounding into a 6-4-3 afterwards.
On the positive, good to see Prado hitting again. I like him and feel like he will start next year at provide consistency at the 2 hole.
September 19th, 20099:17 am
Huddy looked pretty good outside of the two bombs to Howard. I can’t see how you don’t pay the option to bring him back. Javy’s been great again, but look at career W/L percentage between these guys and I think Braves brass decide on Huddy. He’s unspectatcular but a winner. Dealing Javy will bring a welcome bat next year, has to happen.
Braves Porterhouse Round
September 19th, 20099:42 am
stick a fork in me………..
September 19th, 20099:53 am
You know that commercial I did for Subway, where I smack the ball at the organist? I was thinking of the Braves when we shot that spot!
September 19th, 200910:14 am
Jake W. I’ve seen Mac dog it a number of times this season and its usually after he gets frustrated after popping up the ball.
Popups are different than ground outs. And BMac did turn what looked like a popup into a triple earlier this year (June 6th). And he almost beat out a bunt the other day against Feliciano…he was busting it down the line.
But that’s not to say there haven’t been a few occasions where he’s just kinda jogged to first on routine ground outs or popups.
September 19th, 200910:19 am
About Escobar — I’m thinking 1981, Ozzie Smith, Garry Templeton.
It does appear that we need the big bopper that some are calling for. I know his defensive weakness, but Adam Dunn would fit in the lineup well. Escobar was dogging it,but I wish that could have been handled differently. Maybe hurt his billfold with a fine, he can be a great player if he wants to be. I know I am getting older, but some of the in-game bloggers are becoming unreal. The blog is an amazing thing, it is so easy to curse others and make ourselves feel better by raging at a player or a stranger on the internet. You who do this cannot understand what you make yourself look like to others or you would stop. Well, maybe not.
September 19th, 200910:24 am
How do we know he wasn’t busting it then? He’s kinda slow.
Mid Town Joe
September 19th, 200910:26 am
I think the Gators will hang at least 50 points on the Volunteers today.
Florida has a middle linebacker who is 6′6″, 290 lbs. (he’s only a junior, too). Get use to watching them win. Tebow’s back-up is very good, also.
September 19th, 200910:27 am
Random, how do you mean?
September 19th, 200910:29 am
Callin’ any and all takers for Chipper Jones?
jeffrey d How do we know he wasn’t busting it then? He’s kinda slow.
Haha, that is true…
September 19th, 200910:30 am
I think it’s about the swap of players.
September 19th, 200910:31 am
PLAYOFFS??? PPLAYOFFS??? YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT PLAYOFFS??? Get real DOB. What fantasyland are you living in?
September 19th, 200910:33 am
Was just reading an article from Yahoo! about Hanson, and get this thing from McDowell:
Pitching coach Roger McDowell said it’s “absolutely” too early to start comparing Hanson to some of Atlanta’s pitching greats.
“He’s got a hundred innings in the big leagues,” McDowell said. “When Chuck James was here and he had a hundred innings in the big leagues, it was the Glavine comparison. And Chuck James isn’t pitching anymore.”
September 19th, 200910:34 am
We’ll take Chipper for a player to be named later.
September 19th, 200910:36 am
Roger McDowell = confidence booster
September 19th, 200910:38 am
As long as we have stubborn old Bobby “We’re gonna pitch to Ryan Howard again” Cox as manager, we have not a chance in hell!
September 19th, 200910:40 am
It’s hard to consistently win with Bobby Cox making poor decisions. Stop pitching to Ryan Howard, that eliminates 3-runs, and who the heck do we bring into games when down 3-1?
We gave up 3 runs in 7 innings and 6 runs in 2 innings? But like I said yesterday, this team is always due for a Bobby Cox mismanagement and a bullpen blowup, they always seem to coincide.
September 19th, 200910:42 am
Further about Escobar –
Whether to run ‘em out or not, whether to bust it down the line or not, all depends on the game siuation.
Savvy players know that. Apparently, Escobar did not last night.
September 19th, 200910:43 am
Good point DMac. DOB should title his next blog
“Braves have no shot – Read this only if you’re a loser”
That’ll bring in the views.
SiTuation, needless to say.
Are people honestly playing the woe is Yunel card? The mofo didn’t hustle on a ball he could’ve beaten out because of the bad throw. Dude dogged it like an absolute loser. And what is this defense of “he plays fiery, and that rubs Bobby the wrong way”? WTF is so friggin’ fiery about dogging it on a groundball with RISP in a game with 16 left while you’re 4 out? WTF is fiery about that? That wasn’t fiery. It was just plain sorry. Absolute horsesh!t effort.
Derek Jeter ain’t really all that better than Yunel, but when was the last time you saw Jeter give that kind of sorry sack of sh!t effort in any game, nevermind a game a that reaaaaaally mattered? Never. 14 years in the pros, 35 years old, and he’s been busting it down the line on every single ground ball from the time he was 21 years old. Let this be the last time we label Yunel’s play as fiery. Too much of this crap goes on.
And don’t waste your time calling me a Yunel hater. I’ve always been the biggest Yunel apologist. I screamed louder, harder and longer than anyone that including him in a trade for Peavy would’ve been the dumbest thing ever. I still wouldn’t get rid of him, but I’ve lost a ton of respect for him, and won’t be making anymore excuses for his behavior. Dude is a talented player, and a moody hothead, but he ain’t fiery. Got me some serious questions now about how much he really wants to win. You can’t be fiery if you keep showing that the will to win doesn’t burn in you.
September 19th, 200910:46 am
jeffrey d “Braves have no shot – Read this only if you’re a loser”…That’ll bring in the views.
Guess that means I’d be one of the people to read it!
Steve from OH
September 19th, 200910:47 am
Yep, I had Multiple BF’s last month,
You’re such a ho! Ho, sit down!
Mid Town Joe (September 19th, 2009 10:30 am): “CB
I think it’s about the swap of players.”
Yep, a straight up trade of one quality shortstop for another.
I haven’t figured out the likely candidates yet, though.
September 19th, 200910:50 am
The Braves came in with a 7 game streak, they are playing the world champs who are really hot this week. Can youse find a way to give them something? How in the world do fans turn so quickly against them? I felt bad for them after working so hard all week.
Switch over to Braves.com, get tickets, come to game tonight and tomorrow and help to cheer them on. All you’re going to do tonight is sit on the keyboard and criticize them anway. If you care so much then be there and cheer or BOO Cox, Chipper, whoever you like to boo but do something. The tickets are so cheap you got the money.
I’ll be there tonight and tomorrow since I know they need all they can get this weekend. When other teams see a half empty stadium they punish the team when they see they’re down with no fans.
Rob from SC
September 19th, 200910:53 am
Does Chipper, Anderson, LaRoche, McCann run that ball out. No they don’t but Bobby has no problem with that.
September 19th, 200910:54 am
Stop with this Yunel crap. Chipper does the same crap on offense and defense. Half-A efforts running the bases, easy ground outs when there are two outs. Matt Diaz consistently drops routine fly-balls in the outfield. Loaf Anderson can’t catch anything close to him, because he is old. An occasional out from Escobar because he doesn’t run hard to first, isn’t the end of the world, just like all the things listed above.
Esco not running to first didn’t cost us the game. Bobby Cox deciding to pitch to Ryan Howard cost us the first part of the game. Then deciding to pitch 4 players who haven’t pitched or the Braves in a long time, in a 3-1 game lost us the 2nd half of the game. Medlen/Logan/Acostus/Nunez in a game that was 3-1 at the time and Tim Hudson was at 87 pitches? And of course in the Next half of the innnig we hit a 2-run homer that would’ve tied it up. Instead it is 5-3. But heck its still a 2-run game, lets bring in another guy who hasn’t seen action for the Braves in a while, and lets bring him in in a 5-3 game. He gives up 4 and makes it 9-3. Of course the Braves score which could have made it 4-3 Braves or 5-4 Phillies however you want to look at it, but nope its 9-4 and we lose.
September 19th, 200910:58 am
This is unrealistic thinking any only intended to stir up the heat. He is simply playing with your emotions. — bravesfanforever
September 19th, 200911:01 am
Its Funny how people are saying that Adam Dunn would be a perfect fit for this lineup…I lusted for seeing Dunn, Abreu, Ibanez or even Nelson (Nellie) Cruz in a braves uni all last offseason and I got my Ass handed to me because I called out the F.O. for going cheap and instead invested too much into D. Lowe and KK…
September 19th, 200911:02 am
This is hilarious. Bobby gets criticized when he uses Moylan, Gonzalez, Soriano and O’Flaherty, but then also gets criticized when he uses the other 4 bums?
Diaz dropping flyballs is an ability issue, not a lack of desire. Chipper’s hitting, defense, and baserunning is a lack of ability due to injury and age issue, not a lack of desire. Anderson not getting to balls in the outfield is an ability issue, and somewhat of a lack of desire. Escobar not beating out that ground ball last night was 100% lack of effort.
How do you know Escobar not running it out to first didn’t cost them the game, especially since you mentioned that Bobby used the four scrub relievers later in the game? If Escobar beats that out, one run definitely scores. By extending the inning, maybe another one, two or three runs score. That changes the game, and how it is managed. That changes the strategy of which relievers you use. Think about how actions or inactions have consequences on further actions.
Does anyone seriously think this team would have put up a decent fight against any of the projected play off teams? — bravesfanforever (love the screen name, by the way — is that entirely sarcasm?)
Anyway, fan forever: Yes, it’s hard to imagine anyone here believing their team might put up a good fight in a short series against a playoff team like, say, the Dodgers or Cardinals. Not when the Braves’ most-recent series against those teams went so horribly and … what’s that? Oh, nevermind.
“Popups are different than ground outs. And BMac did turn what looked like a popup into a triple earlier this year (June 6th). And he almost beat out a bunt the other day against Feliciano…he was busting it down the line.”
Popups or Groundouts, you are still suppose to run them out. Jimmy Rollins was benched on the phillies for not running out a popup that ended up being dropped. Only reason I bring up Mac is because a few of his popus have actually been lost in the lights and dropped and because he wasn’t running hard he ended up on 1st. The announcers calling the game have said as much. Don’t want to rehash this but since you brought it up I felt the need to respond to at least you. I don’t hate bobby. I like the message, you run hard all the time and don’t take anything for granted. Escobar should have ran hard, period. I just have a problem when that message only seems to apply to some players and not others. I’m not talking about comparing Esco to the old dogs(Chipper and GA) and why they don’t run it out. I’m comparing him to someone of equal ilk. Mac’s a star on this team. He’s the future and i’m a big a fan of his as I am of others on this team. Simple as that, if you are going to preach it for one, preach it to the others. Bobby should know that.
Oh and I know Mac can bust it, he almost beat out a bunt and so did Esco the other night against k-Rod. I know you’re just defending your guy. He does bust it more times than not, just saying he doesn’t do it all the time. No ones perfect.
September 19th, 200911:03 am
Since you have been empowered to play with our emotions, do you think you have some free time to drop by and mow my back yard? You must be quite versatile.
September 19th, 200911:04 am
Unless I see sharp changes in the weather I have a feeling its gonna be a long night at the Ted (With all the delays and all) As a matter of fact I wouldn’t be suprised if todays game is called
September 19th, 200911:07 am
Braveheart: Well said at 11:02 a.m.
September 19th, 200911:13 am
Has a point in the Braves being successful against the Dodgers and Crads this year, Problem is and this has been said all season by the likes of Brian Jordan and Ron Gant is that they Play to the level of their opposition…Hence the fact that AAA teams like the Reds, Nats and Pirates have given the braves fits all season…
And Now It’s the Phillies again…We Owned them in the first half now they have owned us since the all-star break
I’m going out on a limb by guessing that Howard has the Most homeruns against the braves this decade, well maybe he’s up there with Pujols and Barroid Bonds…
September 19th, 200911:14 am
Anyone need a little pick me up? Enjoy the piano at the 2:39 mark.
September 19th, 200911:15 am
dave is tonights game still on or rained out? i cant seem to find out who to call. i hate to go 100 miles for nothing. thanks
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