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Tomy Fournier
September 18th, 2009
1:29 pm
IN YOUR VIEW…OVER 55% “MORON”..WANT MR. MORON COX BACK…WHAT A JOKE!!!THAT’S THE ANSWER CAUSE THIS TEAM HAVE TO BE WHERE IS, WITH THIS PLAYERS AND MANAGER AND WITH THIS FANS…WHAT THE HELL YOU WAITING FOR????
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
1:30 pm
Piedmont Blues, yeah, get outta here. We’re doing just fine without you, Piedmont!
Lew, I’m with you on Hudson. He’s not going to duplicate what Vazquez did this year and I’d rather keep Javy because we need that big time K pitcher in the rotation. Smoltz was our guy for years and years. But, if they want to seriously upgrade the offense and seeing how Bay/Holliday are the two main bats on the market this winter, dealing Javy might be the route to go for that.
Surely, though, they could resign LaRoche and have he and Nate for a full year which would make a difference. Marlon Byrd is also an option for Wren and maybe package KJ with a few others to get a very good reliever and let Moylan start 2010 as the closer.
Rock On......
September 18th, 2009
1:31 pm
This morning just flew by didn’t it?……again!
Lew…..seems you and I are the main ones here not ready to rubber-stamp Hudson as ready to man a spot in the rotation. Agree 100% with your post which is why I can’t see Wren mortgaging the pitching future of the Braves by dealing Vazquez and banking that Hudson will return to pre-2007 form.
Hudson may well return to a sub 4.00 ERA form from prior years but that can’t be predicted with any ounce of confidence. While nothing is certain we have seen a full year of Vazquez and my money is riding on Vazquez way before Hudson. Gotta believe Wren’s is too.
I have said many many many times that I would keep Hudson and Vazquez if we can get a bat for KK & KJ, but if push comes to shove I am letting Hudson walk. There is a possibility that we won’t be able to outbid the Rockies or Angels for him even if we wanted to. Hudson’s desire to stay in Atlanta may be fulfilled if he and Wren can work out a contract extension. Again I am not convinced the Braves will 100% pick up his option. The Braves starting 5 are, arguably, the best (OK so you say San Fran? would you trade the Braves starting 5 for San Fran’s starting 5-didn’t think so) as it is and Medlen can give an emergency start here or there. Thus, there is no pressing need for Hudson as a pitcher right now. Hudson’s value comes in the way of a gamble on the Braves part that he can be added to the staff by way of the Braves trading either Lowe or KK/KJ and acquire a big bat. I would let Hudson walk and eat a million if he is not replacing one of those two.
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
1:33 pm
In the past few years, pllenty of folks in North Georgia would’ve been thankful to have as much rain in two months as we’ve had in either of the past couple of days. Now, we’re supposed to have more of same today … and tomorrow … and rain every day for days to come.
OK, I’m headed to 10 a.m. periodontist checkup. Unfortunately, praying for rain won’t help me. We’re going to have to play this regularly scheduled appointment regardless of weather.
CB
September 18th, 2009
1:34 pm
Lew, I agree with your assessment of Hudson and KK. The wrong pitcher went to the bullpen- should have been Lowe. The game tonight worries me with Hudson pitching,wish his turn in rotation had been against the Mets.
GboroBravo
September 18th, 2009
1:34 pm
DOB,
Did you watch The Office yet? Probably one of the best openings in a loooong time or maybe I was just excited about it coming back on.
Brian
September 18th, 2009
1:35 pm
Anders:
Because compared to free agent options at 2B, Johnson is younger than every single one of them, is a better hitter than all but probably two of them (Hudson and DeRosa), and is not making that much money. There’s a lot of value in guys that hit well for their position and are relatively cheap. His 330 PAs this year haven’t been very good, but he’s got about 1500 other PAs in his career that say he’s a pretty decent hitter.
Rock On......
September 18th, 2009
1:37 pm
Brian…agreed about KJ but you can safely remove the “if” concerning moving KJ.
Tomahawkya
September 18th, 2009
1:37 pm
I don’t know if this has been posted or not for comment. It’s Chipper reiterating the prospects of retirement at the end of 2010, but he also elaborates some more on ‘why’. Which to me sounds like he’s already wishing to be elsewhere if you read between the lines.
http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/article/2009-09-17/slumping-chipper-jones-may-retire-after-2010
A telling stat that he’s reached 500 at bats only once in the last six seasons. We consistently lose in prior losing years since 05′ when he doesn’t play. Over that stretch he’s missed a total of 133 games not counting the remainder of this season. Now we’re on fire when he doesn’t play. Verdict, not someone to anchor your line-up around – expendable.
richbrave
September 18th, 2009
1:38 pm
Well ANDERS we’re still in it this season. If we lose as many as two to anybody in a series from here on out we’ll be on life support the rest of the way. 12-4 sounds a lot easier than 19-4 though. Next year should really be a dogfight with your METS healthy, and the PHILLIES as top dogs again. IF we expand the payroll 10-20 percent and get an elite right-handed bat for the four hole, we should be in the mix, barring injuries of course. It is an improvement to see LOS BRAVOS winning and not counting on CHIP JONES to return to his former glories. But I’m certainly counting on your club being a worthy adversary next year.
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
1:39 pm
Just out of curiosity…
Anders
September 18th, 2009
1:39 pm
Brian,
Sorry but Johnson has become a throw away. No one is giving the Braves much for him. Sure, teams will take a flyer on him but they’re not going to pay in advance for a guy who can’t even get on the field with his present team who is starved what his best asset is, offense. I mean, can’t you see what that says about him? Certainly other GM’s will.
cabravesfan
September 18th, 2009
1:41 pm
Good morning blog
Sorry to hear that it is still raining out there…it’s sunny and gorgeous here- blue skys aplenty 
Bad Matchup
September 18th, 2009
1:43 pm
Huddy Vs the Philly lineup? He doesn’t have his command yet. I see 4 1/3 innings with 6 earned runs. Hope the bats can jump all over J.A. Final 8 – 4 Philly tonight. Start a new streat tomorrow.
Willy Wally
September 18th, 2009
1:43 pm
Ugabrave, much of the Cox criticism is unwarranted. However, it’s not really a good excuse to just say he was stuck with Frenchy, KJ & Schafer. You can’t say Frenchy killed the team, but absolve Cox from fault for allowing Frenchy to destroy the team. Frenchy was just a weapon. Cox was the one pulling the trigger on the Frenchy weapon. He had a better option in Diaz on the bench, but never used him. With KJ, he had options in Infante and Prado, but waited until half a season was gone, and they had a 34-40 record. They are 43-28 since he woke up and realized KJ had to sit. In Schafer, he didn’t really have any other option. He really hasn’t done a great job with this team.
monty
September 18th, 2009
1:44 pm
FW looked like a genuise last year signing Chipper to that extension(won batting title) now he has egg on his face. Just shows you you can’t be sentiment driven in sports. I,like many, wanted Chipper to finish his career here in ATL but he should have been offered some type of contract that was more production based, if you continue to do this then we’ll do this, with receding expectations for age and drop off in performance on a year to year basis. Hopefully Chipper will come back next year after working on quickness in the off season and not just pure strength training. I think many of Chippers errors were due to his poor hitting. How many times have you heard announcers say after a guy makes a great play in the field who has been struggling at the plate that “even though he’s in a slump he doesn’t carry it with him onto the field.”? I think Chipper did. Maybe Chipper can go see the Texas hitting coach like Andruw did.
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
1:46 pm
cabravesfan – this is fun trying to figure out which ones are the new posts and which ones I’ve already read – not to imply that there is any repetition of similar comments on the blog
Rock On......
September 18th, 2009
1:47 pm
ANDERS…..KJ just has the same disease as Francouer had and the cure is a change of scenery – or hitting coach. Regardless, I think KJ makes a great trade combo with KK to acquire that big RH bat in LF. Oh…I have mentioned that before, sorry.
cabravesfan
September 18th, 2009
1:48 pm
VJ-
at least this way I already know which comments I don’t have to read in the future
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried
September 18th, 2009
1:49 pm
So basically Jurrjens said in his post game interview that the boys buckled under the pressure of being in a post season race…and lost ballgames they should have won because of it.
Now that they thought they were out of it…they started playing loose and having fun…So now that we’re clawing our way back into it…Does that mean we fold under the pressure again?
I’ve noticed ESPN, MLB.com, Foxsports all wrote Atlanta off after the Cincy series…So did I…and so did most on this blog and some writers for AJC.
Now suddenly (after a 7 game winning streak) people are talking about Atlanta again. I think there’s more pressure on them now then ever…It’ll be interesting to see how they respond…tonight’s a big one as they all are now…I’m a little concerned about Huddy tonight against the Phillies but who’s knows what’s going to happen.
But we need to keep this streak going for at least a couple more games…if we could win the next two games it would be huge! Hopefully Colorado loses a game or two…
Ginger Vitus
September 18th, 2009
1:50 pm
If Ozzie Guillen were a periodontist, all root canals would be done without novacaine. Show some fire!
Random
September 18th, 2009
1:50 pm
Richard Nieh (September 18th, 2009 7:24 am): “Call me old fashion; I still think W-L record is one of the most important stats for the pitcher.”
Not old-fashioned — just stupid. Or incapable of reason. Or lazy, sloppy-thinking — something. ‘Cause right after you say taht the W-L record is so important, you immediately start bringing in additional information/statistics to supplement and explain that W-L record. (”If a pitcher keeps losing games 2-3, 1-2″; “If the same pitcher loses his composure and starts to lose game by giving up 4 runs”) Get it? You’ve gone well beyond the simple W-L record in order to generate your “insights” and derive your conclusions from other data.
“It does not only show his performance, which is normally hold true that if a pitcher wants to win, he needs to pitch better, but also show how the game was played.”
No, it show’s the team’s performance when he pitched, not necessarily the pitcher’s performance, and certainly not the pitcher’s performance alone.
And a W-L record certainly does NOT “show how the game was played.” (You may be thinking of some other statistic or something else entirely — like a line score or a boxscore or something.)
“When we judge a pitcher, we have to judge his performance to win games rather than judging how good his stuff is.”
Or insane. Maybe you’re insane?
“If a pitcher keeps losing games 2-3, 1-2, it means he can win those games, it is just some momentary lapse cost him those games and we all know that the kind of record won’t last forever if he keeps his standards up.”
“it means he can win those games” — how? Should he have hit better with runners in scoring position? Should he have decided to homer rather than strike out?
What if the runs were unearned? What if they were “earned” as a result of poor defense and poorer official scoring? None of that matters — it still goes on the debit side of his W-L ledger.
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Let’s tinker with that statement of yours to make it more sensible:
“If a pitcher keeps losing games 2-3, 1-2, it means [his team probably should have won] those games, it is just some momentary [team] lapse cost him those games and we all know that the kind of record [probably] won’t last forever if he keeps his standards up [and his team starts playing better].”
That’s a little bit better — still, try selling it to Bert Blyleven.
“Javier Vazquez is having his career year despite his 13-9 record”
Thanks for undermining your own thesis — less work for me.
“The fact is that the most important thing in any professional competition is to win games, what is the better stats to see the W-L record?”
This is all correct at the team level, but not at the individual level. A W-L record is the best metric for the performance of a team, but it is insufficient to measure the performance of any single individual on that team.
If you don’t get that, you just don’t get team sports.
At all.
AndyC
September 18th, 2009
1:51 pm
It will be interesting to see if the Braves begin to play tight again now that they have somewhat played themselves back into the playoff race. Big series against the Phils means more pressure. I don’t know what’s going to happen but it is nice to have meaningful games this late in the season. Haven’t had that in a few years.
McFann ;Ô;
September 18th, 2009
1:52 pm
cabravesfan at least this way I already know which comments I don’t have to read in the future
But yeah…it’s like, OK, let’s move on to normal time, now. Hopefully this time when Chief puts up a new Blog this nonsense will stop…
Bob Horner
September 18th, 2009
1:52 pm
Dude, why is trading Vazquez even a topic? He is better than Tim Hudson. Why in the world would you keep Huddy over Vazquez? Hudson has been above average for the Braves since we acquired him, but has won 16 games once and 14 games once. His option is for $12M. We have Javy signed for next year. Trading him would be foolish. If you’re going to trade a pitcher, I would trade Hudson (or Kawakami, but nobody would take his $7M). Vazquez has been dominant his whole career – but has played for sub-par teams, and then went to the AL where his ERA was inflated. He’s at the top of his game at this point in his career, and can reach back and record the big strikeout when he needs to (unlike Huddy). That being said, no way in heck Huddy is worth more $$$ than Javy.
Trading him would be a stupid move!
Anders
September 18th, 2009
1:54 pm
Rock On – What type of bat do you think the Braves will get for a starting pitcher they over paid and now have relegated to the bullpen and a second baseman they won’t let play at all?
The Braves would do well just to unload Kawakami’s contract for nothing and free that money up.
cabravesfan
September 18th, 2009
1:55 pm
McFann-
well technically it is posting correctly- it’s just not readjusting the ones that were posted in the “future”
Anders
September 18th, 2009
1:56 pm
Have you guys considered that Vasquez is clearly going to want to talk contract extension after this season? This could get sticky.
Brian
September 18th, 2009
1:57 pm
Bob Horner…the argument for trading Vazquez is not because Hudson, Kawakami, or Lowe are more valuable. Quite the opposite. Trading Vazquez is an option because he gives you the best return. Nobody’s saying “trade Vazquez, he stinks!” It’s “trade Vazquez and we might be able to get a power bat.”
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
1:57 pm
cabravesfan – don’t give away the secret – it’s fun being among the few who know…
Rock On......
September 18th, 2009
1:58 pm
AndyC….It will be interesting to see how Hudson holds up against the Phils. It won’t sadden me to see this one rained out. Gotta question the Braves starting Hudson no doubt.
cabravesfan
September 18th, 2009
2:01 pm
VJ-
I don’t think we have to worry- I doubt some would notice even if we spelled it out in ALL CAPS
CB
September 18th, 2009
2:02 pm
Anders, KK was relegated to the bullpen because with Hudson’s return we had 6 starters- not for lack of performance. I think a lot of teams will be interested if he becomes available.
DAP
September 18th, 2009
2:03 pm
bob horner while the point of your post (dont trade vazquez) was right on, your reasoning was terrible. assertions like vazquez being dominant his whole career and that huddy cant get strikeouts and that nobody would take kawakami’s contract are just false.
andersThe Braves would do well just to unload Kawakami’s contract for nothing and free that money up.
thats all it will take, really.
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
2:04 pm
Just waiting for 2:14 to arrive to see if Sonny and Cher start singing “I Got You Babe”
richbrave
September 18th, 2009
2:04 pm
ROCK ON:
Sorry buddy, but I’m inclined to agree with ANDERS on this one. KJ would benefit from a change of scenery IMO, but after playing himself out of the daily line-up, the BRAVES won’t get much for him. I really can’t see KK and KJ interesting GM’s in sending us some power right-handed hitter who’s under contract. We have FA MATT HOLLIDAY available this off-season, and I really think that’s the way to go.
Brad in MT
September 18th, 2009
2:04 pm
Good Morning all…it sure is nice to see the Braves playing this way, its been a long time. As far as the season goes I think that after the fact we will all look back and see this as a stepping stone to future success, regardless of if we are able to overcome the Rockies or Giants or not…
richbrave
September 18th, 2009
2:08 pm
1990. De ja vois all over again.
Rock On......
September 18th, 2009
2:09 pm
Anders….sorry about the all-caps on your name earlier. Well I think a lot of GM’s would look at a KK/KJ combo and KK could well be a #3 starter for some teams and at 7 million that is reasonable. Throw in KJ with the right team and I think we can get a bat back that will plug a hole for us. Too many variables as to what team/players to hash it all out here but suffice it to say we don’t need a Pujol’s-type bat in the trade. I will assume we sign LaRoche and start Heyward so a solid bat(not world-beater) in the 3-4 hole should do the trick. Again a lot of other variables come into play like other players not sucking in 2010.
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
2:10 pm
cabravesfan – strange laundry coincidence – I think you’re stalking me today…
fastasballs
September 18th, 2009
2:11 pm
It’s just nice to play some meaningful games this late in the season. I know it’s a really long shot for the Braves to make the playoffs, but the odds seem to geta little better each day of that happening.
I think they have to finish 14-2 to at least force a playoff. The Rockies only have 15 left so they would need to finish no better than 9-6. I just don’t see them letting up. Just think the other day the Braves probably needed a 21-2 finish to make it happen so there is a chance after knocking out 1/3 of those wins out while losing none.
As far as KJ what trade value does the guy have? He sits on the bench for an offensively challenged team so his perceived value is little. I’m sure teams would take him, but I doubt they are giving anything decent up for him.
Daslied
September 18th, 2009
2:11 pm
Anders, normally your Mets comments and subtle jabs at everything Atlanta don’t bother me. But invoking Meat Loaf…that’s just going too far, man.
BTW – Kawakami is not overpaid. If that’s your mindset, why not just dump Santana to get out from that contract?
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
2:11 pm
counting down (or is it up?) to 2:14…
Piedmont Blues
September 18th, 2009
2:11 pm
Been away from the blog for the most part over the past week and the Braves have gone on a run. So I’m going to give ‘em props and limit my lurking. Have fun, folks, and take care of bidness, guys.
Not that I’m superstitious or anything.
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
2:12 pm
I wonder how many people think the blog is totally not working?
cabravesfan
September 18th, 2009
2:12 pm
VJ-
I believe it’s the other way around…
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
2:14 pm
trying to break on through to the other side…
Lew
September 18th, 2009
2:14 pm
Bob Horner-Because many people believe (not me, mind you) that Hudson will return to “Ace” status immediately on beginning Spring Training next year. They fail to take into account that at the moment, Javy Vazquez is an undeniable #1 pitcher and Hudson a decent #4-5 starter and apparently don’t seem to realize that replacing a #1 pitcher with a lower rotation pitcher is seriously downgrading your rotation. There’s just no two ways about it.
As for people not willing to take on Kawakami’s $7 mil? Seriously? Dude has had an ERA of 3.50 since April and given up 3 or less runs in 18 of 21 starts since May 1. I don’t think they would have any problem whatsoever getting someone to eat his salary. No problem at all.
They also beiieve that if we let Hudson walk we get nothing in return (except $11 million in salary) and that trading Vazquez (who has a no trade clause for all West Coast teams) will net us all of our outfield dreams and save the same amount of $$$$$ that letting Huddy walk will bring us.
Anders- It doesn’t matter what kind of bat you would get for Lowe (he won’t be traded) or Kawakami. It would primarily be a salary dump. We could then go the Free Agent route (I wouldn’t) or allow us to make an additional trade (we actually have a farm system with prospects other teams value-unlike the Mets) and have the cash to pay that player.
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
2:14 pm
almost made it…
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
2:15 pm
Yesssss!!!!!!!!!!
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
2:15 pm
How can 53% of people say they want Bobby Cox to return as manager next year?
WTF. I thought that was the one thing we all agreed on. They’re going to base the decision solely on that one pole question now. Look what you did.
But seriously… let’s get serious for a moment folks… I find that surprising.
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
2:15 pm
cabravesfan – if that’s what you want to believe
cabravesfan
September 18th, 2009
2:15 pm
Does this mean the blog is fixed?
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
2:16 pm
It’s been fixed for several hours – it just finally caught up
CB
September 18th, 2009
2:17 pm
cabravesfan, this is not a blog, the twilight zone.
Thrillhouse44
September 18th, 2009
2:17 pm
Mitchell, who do you want to manage the Braves?
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
2:18 pm
cabravesfan – nothing to add, I’ve just become addicted to posting every minute or two…
your fault for getting me addicted
cabravesfan
September 18th, 2009
2:19 pm
VJ-
I’d stick my tongue out at you but for some reason the emoticon on the blog turns it into a smiley face…
cabravesfan
September 18th, 2009
2:20 pm
VJ-
I will not allow you to suck me into your addiction…I WILL NOT!!
Hillbilly
September 18th, 2009
2:20 pm
Just waiting for 2:14 to arrive to see if Sonny and Cher start singing “I Got You Babe”—-Vinings Jim
“Rise and shine campers. And put your booties on because it’s coooooold outside.”
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
2:20 pm
CAB – I hear Backstreet Boy Matt Barkley won’t be starting….is USC gonna be okay?
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
2:21 pm
cabravesfan – you should know better than telling me you want to stick your tongue anywhere…
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
2:22 pm
Mitchell – a majority of the people who voted in that poll probably don’t come to the blog. We just get the loonies over here.
cabravesfan
September 18th, 2009
2:22 pm
Jeffrey D-
Aaron Corp is would be a started on a lot of other teams…including USC if he hadn’t gotten hurt
VJ-
ummm, no comment
McFann ;Ô;
September 18th, 2009
2:22 pm
cabravesfan well technically it is posting correctly- it’s just not readjusting the ones that were posted in the “future”
This is true…
Haha, but I think it is fixed, now! Boo-yah! Just in time for my departure…
Later!
cabravesfan
September 18th, 2009
2:24 pm
We just get the loonies over here.
so sad, yet so true…
CB
September 18th, 2009
2:24 pm
VJ,your posting every minute or two reminds me of another blogger who is near and dear to our heart.
McFann ;Ô;
September 18th, 2009
2:24 pm
cab I’d stick my tongue out at you but for some reason the emoticon on the blog turns it into a smiley face…
I really wish they had one that was sticking his tongue out in a “mad” way…
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
2:24 pm
Do you think he could be a starter on William & Mary?
Hillbilly
September 18th, 2009
2:26 pm
Aaron Corp is would be a started on a lot of other teams…including USC if he hadn’t gotten hurt –cabravesfan
So would 3rd stringer Mitch Mustain, but I’ll save the bitter Arkansas Razorback fan schtick for another day.
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
2:27 pm
CB – much shorter posts, however
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
2:28 pm
So would 3rd stringer Mitch Mustain, but I’ll save the bitter Arkansas Razorback fan schtick for another day.
I’m with ya Hillbilly…I really wish he would’ve stayed with Arkansas.
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
2:28 pm
jeffrey d – I’m thinking long snapper for us…
cabravesfan
September 18th, 2009
2:30 pm
Jeffrey D-
I have no doubt
Hillbilly-
I’d be more bitter about losing Damien Williams the Mitch Mustain (although I’m sure it hurts a little knowing our 3rd stringer was 8-0 at Arkansas
)
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
2:31 pm
I’m thinking long snapper for us…
Rock On......
September 18th, 2009
2:31 pm
Jake W….Rock On – What type of bat do you think the Braves will get for a starting pitcher they over paid and now have relegated to the bullpen and a second baseman they won’t let play at all?
That was not me saying that. You quoted Anders’ reply to me. It is my assertion they could get a real good bat and am totally in agreement that KK has pitched very well to date being his first year etc.
cabravesfan
September 18th, 2009
2:31 pm
VJ-
And he’d still be the best football player ever to play at W&M
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
2:35 pm
The Baseball Gods decided to convene this past Monday in Atlanta. Like the gathering thunderstorms, they wish to right some past wrongs done to this organization. They have decided to make it interesting for a team with the courage to score 5 two out runs against the reigning AL Cy Young winner, beat a great closer with 2 ninth inning runs and laugh (like Yunel did) at a missed call that would have given the Bravos 8 runs last night. The impending rain or (Baseball Gods), does not bode well this weekend for a team (Phillies) with a decimated pen and starters that throw 130 pitches per game. This all shapes up well for the home team. Our reviled Manager will be vindicated as his moves will finally work (players will do what they are asked). The men of Atlanta will finish with 92 wins while the Phillies pitching will be exposed and finish 1 win short with 91.
mexican-brave
September 18th, 2009
2:36 pm
big game for huddy tonight…it might be crucial for the braves’ decision to re-sign him or not…don’t you think?
Rock On......
September 18th, 2009
2:37 pm
These days are getting shorter….and rainy to boot. If we get this thing in does that mean we will need about 8 pitchers? Say What? real funny….I’m talking about the ones that throw the little white ball.
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
2:37 pm
What would they be getting for Vazquez that would be of more value to the team than a 200+ K pitcher that throws 200 innings and could be the #1-2 starter? If Wren can find it then go get him but I seriously doubt it.
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
2:37 pm
cabravesfan – how often did Darren Sharper lead the NFL in interceptions? And Steve Christie – set a Super Bowl record by kicking a 54-yard field goal, set a Bills record by kicking a 59-yard field goal in a regular season game, has nine game-winning field goals in overtime to his credit, an NFL record…
richbrave
September 18th, 2009
2:38 pm
WHITE BLOOD CELLS:
Wow, dude whatever you’re smokin’, I want some. That’s good shyt!
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
2:39 pm
cabravesfan
September 18th, 2009
2:24 pm
We just get the loonies over here.
so sad, yet so true…
What exactly is that supposed to mean California Braves Fan?
Rock On......
September 18th, 2009
2:39 pm
TnBrian….welcome to the Vazquez club. See Lew for membership details.
mexican-brave
September 18th, 2009
2:40 pm
is victorino playing tonight? heard he had diarrhea or something like that…hate that guy
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
2:40 pm
richbrave,
Thanx, like I’ve said, the season is 162 games not 146.
Hillbilly
September 18th, 2009
2:41 pm
I’d be more bitter about losing Damien Williams the Mitch Mustain (although I’m sure it hurts a little knowing our 3rd stringer was 8-0 at Arkansas ) —cabravesfan
Neither one of them would have thrived at Arkansas as long as Houston Nutt was the head coach. That’s where the bitterness stems from. Ol’ Hootie wouldn’t have let them play their game. Being in the spotlight of Darren McFadden and Felix Jones didn’t help either, but that’s understandable.
richbrave
September 18th, 2009
2:42 pm
VJ:
Everybody knows CHRISTIE’s a chump. JACK DEMPSEY wudda’ K.O.’d him!
cabravesfan
September 18th, 2009
2:42 pm
Mitchell-
just a response to a previous post
Hillbilly
September 18th, 2009
2:42 pm
or being in the shadows of McFadden and Jones…whatever.
cabravesfan
September 18th, 2009
2:44 pm
Hillbilly-
That is true- I, and I think most Trojan fans, are very grateful for it…Damien Williams has been our best receiver since the day he stepped on the field
House Of Cards
September 18th, 2009
2:45 pm
I find myself confused by the reaction of some writers, broadcasters, Braves players and coaches concerning the current 7 game win streak. People from each of the above mentioned groups have come to the same conclusion and voiced it publicly. The Braves current winning streak is likely due to the fact that the pressure is off since it’s unlikely the Braves can actually make the playoffs under any circumstance.
This conclusion is uttered with a sense that if the Braves could only play relaxed throughout the season that the outcome might have been similar to the results the Braves have had over the last week.
Wow….. that’s rocket science isn’t it?
That’s what separates most of the winners from the losers! Teams who go to the playoffs have to be successful under pressure at least part of the season or the don’t go to the playoffs!
When everyone is singing off the “there’s no pressure on us now and that’s why we’re winning” page, it’s just admitting that there is something lacking in the teams makeup. In essence, just as soon as the pressure is on, this bunch is gonna fold….. they practically said so themselves!
Hillbilly
September 18th, 2009
2:47 pm
Cabravesfan –
Forward all “Thank You” letters to Oxford, Mississippi. C/O Houston Nutt.
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
2:49 pm
House Of Cards,
“When you ain’t got nothing, You got nothing to lose” and who really cares how they get motivated, at least they’re not laying down!
House Of Cards
September 18th, 2009
2:52 pm
It’s the late season “righting of the ship” that bothers me. Hopefully, Braves management will not take it as a sign that all is working out. Hopefully they won’t go into the offseason feeling smug that the late season performance is just a bit late in coming but spells success for the Braves next season. If they do, they are just kidding themselves.
Think of Kelly Johnson’s performance the last couple of months last year. The winter was full of ” KJ is gonna have a monster year,” predictions in the off season. We see how that worked out.
This team is the team that played the entire season, NOT the team that played the 1st and 2nd week in September.
They can rattle off 7 loses as quickly as they rattled off 7 wins!
Hope no one forgets that.
MattyRoss
September 18th, 2009
2:53 pm
Hey DOB you familiar with the band Fanfarlo? They were on MBE on KCRW yesterday, I think you’d really like them. Very similar to Ra Ra Riot, maybe with a little more…something.
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
2:55 pm
House Of Cards,
I’ll repeat, the season is 162 games, not 146.
RC
September 18th, 2009
2:55 pm
Does anyone know a good website to get ballpark statistics for a given season, specifically HR by left-handers vs. HR by right-handers? Or location of HR at a certain ballpark? After going to both Tuesday and Thursdays games and seeing the HR that LaRoche and McCann each hit, I wonder if Turner Field has been more “homer-friendly” to left handed hitters than right handed hitters this year. Both LaRoche’s first HR and McCann’s last night seemed to carry well beyond where I would have expected them to, and both were much higher than most HR appear to be as well. My theory is that with the field setup a high fly ball to right field has a much better chance due to the wind direction (NE) than a ball to left field, which would need to have the wind blowing directly west to help it. I also realize there is a good chance any stats could be skewed because a) most of the Braves’ power is from the left side and b) all of the Braves’ starters are right handed.
White Blood Cells
September 18th, 2009
2:57 pm
Everybody, get behind this team and worry about next year – next year! Live for today!