Steve from OH: “The general rule I’ve seen others post here, and one that I like very much is simple–if you play for one run, that’s all you’ll get. Bunting (IIRC) increases your probability of scoring one run but generally decreases your overall RE. So doing things like bunting early in games is stupid b/c you waste precious opportunities to hang a big number of runs on your opponent.”
I like your rule, Steve.
All–Here’s a trivia question: Who was the Braves’ best sacrifice bunter in 2007? Answer in 5 minutes if no one posts it.
I’m starting to come around to keeping Hudson and moving Lowe, if we could get a big bat and solid outfielder for him.I’m fairly confident we have enough inning eating pitchers to risk the move.
I’ve gotta say I’m impressed the team hasn’t caved and started phoning in.Too bad they didn’t wake up a week earlier.
I then looked at winning percentage for 300 game winners.I believe he was first in that regard also. (Asheville)
Winning % ? You’re actually basing something on winning%? You haven’t managed to perceive how amiss that can be as shown on this years Braves team? Winning % ??? sigh
I sure hope this seven-game winning streak is enough to earn Bobby a lifetime contract and five more “In My Own Words” shows. After all, I need something to be really mad about. That would do it.
Seven down, just need to finish 14-2 & the Rockies no better than 9-6. The pitching has been great during the streak & prior with the exception of Lowe. I wouldn’t be too heart broken if KK took Lowe’s next start if his blister doesn’t respond to treatment.
It’s good to see multible guys swinging the bat well. McCann is starting to look like his old self & Prado has had two games in a row where he’s really squared some balls up. Chipper can stay on the bench for a while longer because the other guys are getting it done. Maybe a week on the bench will get him going, kind of like a mini DL stint. We all know what the guy does when he comes off of the DL.
Just curious. Do you think it was a smart move using EOF for a third straight night with a 5-run lead, the Phillies on deck this weekend and Gonzalez questionable?
Given how Cox has utilized his bullpen this season, how much thought do you think he gives to how a move he makes in one game might impact the next? Or how much thought he gives to how a move he makes in the 6th or 7th inning impacts what might happen in the 9th.
Other than the decision not to pinch-run for Anderson last night, which he may or may not have passed on because he was looking ahead to the 9th, I can’t think of many times he has actually been thinking ahead more than the next batter.
I’m trying to be optimistic but it’s all just a bit too little too late. There’s no debating the Houston game. Bobby took out a guy throwing a shut-out to go to his overworked closer and we lost. If we had won, then there might have been a reason to question the decision.
Bobby Cox cost us the game. The Reds beat us fair and square and the timing couldn’t have been worse but how many games has he screwed up otherwise?
We could have put the Marlins away and only now have we managed to get ahead of them in the standings.
I predicted months ago that they would play well in September but it’s too late. I hope I’m wrong but it’s seven in a row is not enough.
I made a careless error.The Braves did have the second best record in the NL since the break coming into tonight.The winning percentage was .606 to The Rockies .603 though.
I was doing a fever-dream walk around Penn Station the other day. This dude came up to me with some bootleg DVDs. One of the DVDs was “In My Own Words: Bobby Cox,” only it wasn’t in Bobby Cox’s own words. It was in Robert’s. When I woke up, “Hee Haw” was on my TV.
How big was getting swept by Cincy now? I knew this would happen because we have such good pitching. Get on a major roll and get just close enough to aggravate us to no end when we fall short.
If Gonzo can’t go the Braves had better put some runs up early so when Howard hits his usual 450 footer off Soriano it won’t win the game for them.
I agree with the few that posted about saving EOF instead of sending him out for the 3rd day in a row in a game that wasn’t close. He needs to be as fresh as possible if Gonzalez can’t go. Is Boone Logan even still on the team? Has he pitched in the last three weeks & I missed it?
Nolie, That’s why I looked at era compared to contemporaries on a ratio basis. The winning percentage was secondary.
The only way I could think of to compare different periods was by direct comparison to pitchers during the same years and same league.Using that metric Grove was best.If I remember correctly Walter Johnson was second.
Go do some more homework and let us know the outcome of the game on each of those dates, the circumstances in which they lost them (yeah, I’m assuming most of those comments were following losses in which they failed to execute simple tasks), and how many games out they were.
If all of those comments followed victories in which they played perfect baseball, you’ve got a point. Otherwise, you’re just confirming what those posts stated AT THAT TIME.
If when Jared from Subway was fat, people continuously commented on how fat he was, stating he had no “will to lose weight”, weren’t they correct until he actually started to lose weight?
Did anyone see Kevin Goldstein’s blurb about the biggest leaps forward in the Braves’ system? They were Ortegano and Milligan, but his report on Ortegano caught my eye. 88-92 FB, plus changeup, and average-to-plus CB. Apparently his MB teammates called him “Santana dos.”
Wren was was pretty upbeat about him on a radio interview I heard him give for MB…keep an eye on him.
What I’m saying today: Every time I think I’m out… they pull me back in.
What I’m saying after Phillies series: Every time I think they’re in… they fall back out.
Yeah that was big, but so was that third game of the year in Philly, that Nats series before the Cubs series, the Cubs series before the Rockies series meltdown and oh yeah the Houston series meltdown as well….
BTW, another solid effort from JJJ tonight, along with McCann showing some stick.
We still need the Rockies and Giants to lose a lot for it to work out for us (with the Braves continuing to win). But the scary thing, is that the Giants, Rockies and Braves ALL have pretty easy schedules the rest of the way, save one series for each team.
The Rockies play the @ Arizona (3), SD @ home (3), St. Louis @ home (3), Milwaukee @ home (3), and finish @ LA (3). Depending on how tight the AL West becomes, that final series against the Dodgers may or may not be tough. But the Dodgers currently have a 5 game lead. So in other words, if that pace continues, the Dodgers likely ease up that weekend gearing up for the playoffs, not wanting to get anybody hurt (though I would expect Torre to play his starters if the WC was on the line, out of respect for the game). But if the Rockies have played well enough to catch the Dodgers, making that series meaningful? That means they’ve kept pace with the winning, right?
The Giants play @ LA (3), @ Arizona (3), Cubs @ home (3), Arizona @ home (3), and finish @ SD (3).
The Braves play Philly @ home (3), @ NYM (3), @ Washington (3), Florida @ home (3), Washington @ home (4).
Clearly, by passing the Marlins tonight, and being only one game back of the Giants for 2nd place is a step (and a neccesary one) in the right direction to climbing the ladder. If the Braves could come out of this weekend series against Philly (while the Giants play the Dodgers in LA), ahead or tied with the Giants, then it’s on.
I think it’s crucial for the Braves to have soul possesion of 2nd place in the WC by Monday at the latest, to make a serious push.
Possible? Absolutely. Probable? Hard to say right now. It will be much easier to assess after the weekend. I’m not counting on it. But the light at the end of that tunnel is getting slightly brighter, we just might run out of track before we get to it.
DOB,
a long way to go, I know, but if the Braves make the playoffs, what do you think they do with Tommy Hanson and the increase of innings that he would have to throw? Especially since they’ve been already talking about skipping starts to minimize his innings.
Do they keep having him start regularly if they stay in the race for the wildcard?
Obviously the Braves need to win tomorrow night, but the can also help Hanson with the ROY by putting some runs up against Happ. Hopefully, Happ’s rusty coming off the oblique injury.
I think she’s new to the scene. I thought I heard Joe say later that Nate has a g/f so I don’t think he needs to be matched up. Nice try by them though.
jeffrey- she (jessie james) is from georgia, her voice/music kinda sounds like a countrier version of christina aguilera-not really my cup of tea, but she can sing
ugh…I don’t like Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears, etc. Girls who WERE pretty (but now are incredibly fake) and can only carry a tune who have little real musical knowledge and get famous based on their looks.
I know he didn’t have similar stuff, but Hanson puts me in mind of Orel Hershiser.It’s partly the facial similarity but the calm, intelligent demeanor puts me in mind of Orel every time Tommy pitches.
First time Braves have been 10 games over .500 since they were 25-15 in May 2007. Hard to believe, huh?
Any way, good vibe in the clubhouse. Too bad they couldn’t have played this loose and confident a couple weeks ago. But hey, as McCann said, they’re leaving it all on the line and hoping that, at the end of these next 16 games, it’s good enough.
McCann said this was best Braves have played over an extended period since he’s been here. He’s referring to the stretch that began just before All-Star break.
Early this season no one seemed certain if Braves catcher Brian McCann would ever see clearly again, much less be a 90-RBI man again.
He dealt with his vision problem via a mid-season switch to glasses, and McCann is pushing toward 90 RBIs after driving in four runs Thursday to help Jair Jurrjens and the streaking Braves to a 7-3 win and sweep of the New York Mets.
Jurrjens (12-10) was charged with six hits and two runs (one earned) in seven innings and the Braves extended a season-high winning streak to seven games.
“We’re playing with a carefree attitude, like there’s nothing to lose,” McCann said after the Braves moved to third in the National League wild-card standings – 4-1/2 games behind idle Colorado with only 16 games to play.
The Braves — 10 games over .500 (78-68) for the first time since May 2007 — open a three-game home series Friday against NL East leader Philadelphia. They still trail the Phillies by 7-1/2 games in the division.
“This is going to be really big for us,” Jurrjens said of the series. “I think we’re not worried about [postseason chances] now, and that’s why we’re playing more relaxed. We just need to keep playing like this and having fun.”
They got their usual strong pitching Thursday, along with several key hits and highlight-reel defensive plays from shortstop Yunel Escobar and third baseman Martin Prado, filling in for injured Chipper Jones.
Since June 28, the Braves are 9-1 in games Jones hasn’t played, a turnaround from recent seasons when they’ve struggled with the veteran out of the lineup.
The Braves fell off the postseason radar with a recent 0-5 skid capped by a sweep against Cincinnati Sept. 4-6 at Turner Field. Most observers expected the Braves to go gently into the offseason.
Instead they won five of six on the road, including a three-game sweep of the Central-leading Cardinals, then came home and swept the Mets.
The Braves know they still need help from Colorado and San Francisco ahead of them in the wild-card standings, and need to keep their hottest streak going.
“This is the best we’ve played since I’ve been here, the best over a consistent period of time,” McCann said of the Braves, whose 44-28 record since June 28 is third-best in the NL behind Philadelphia (47-26) and Colorado (44-29).
For the second night in a row, there was a two-hour rain delay before the first pitch Friday. Then Jurrjens did his thing and finally got run support worthy of his performance, as the Braves scored more than two runs while he was in for just the second time in his past 10 starts.
“That felt good for him,” manager Bobby Cox said of Jurrjens getting unusually robust offensive support. “He’s at the top of his game, every time he goes out.”
Staked to a 2-0 lead in the third on Martin Prado’s RBI double and McCann’s sacrifice fly, Jurrjens lost it in the fourth when Fernando Tatis hit a two-run single after a Daniel Murphy double and a dropped fly ball by Matt Diaz.
But the Braves took control in the fifth against Mets lefty Nelson Figueroa, getting six hits including McCann’s tie-breaking three-run, two-out homer.
McCann’s 84 RBIs include 44 two-out RBIs, third-most in the majors. He’s fifth in the majors with 165 two-out RBIs since the beginning of the 2006 season.
Since ending an 0-for-20 skid, McCann is 11-for-22 with nine RBI in six games. He’s hit .381 with four homers and 14 RBI in his past 12 games against the Mets.
“He’s one of the guys everybody loves in this clubhouse,” said Jurrjens, who improved to 5-1 with a 2.62 ERA in seven starts against the Mets, including 3-0 with a 1.69 ERA in four this season. [McCann] plays hard every day — even when he’s banged up, he tries to give 100 percent. Everybody looks up to him.”
Good night, all! Should finally be around most of the day tomorrow. And, cabravesfan is working from home, so we might see more of her (except when she is out running errands for me ).
By the way, Chipper said after game that he felt a lot better swinging today than yesterday, and he might be in there tomorrow. But no guarantees or anything.
McCann’s fifth four-RBI game of the season…. McLouth has hit .413 with three homers and nine RBI in his past 12 games…. That’s seven consecutive quality starts for Jurrjens… Anderson needs 13 hits to reach 2,500….
A-Ville: Thanks. I appreciate that.
OK, I’m outta here. Surprised to be leaving so early, to tell you the truth. Considering we had a 2-hour delay before the first pitch, fortunate to be headed out of here at 1 a.m. — and not walking in rain to my car.
Steve Phillips on ESPN “If the Braves go 12-4 in their lost 16 they will make the playoffs.” Bold statement by Mr. Phillips………Need 2 of 3 this weekend to stay in the chase????
Oh, and Caleb: Yes, if Braves keep this streak up, I think Hanson will keep making his regular starts. But if they lose a series or lose a couple of games in a three- or four-game stretch, I think we’ll probably see him have a turn skipped.
But they’re not going to mess with things right now, not while this is going on. Besides, Lowe might have to miss a turn, or at least be pushed back.
Fluid situation, but it’s not as if Hanson is pushing 200 innings or anything. They could always just elect to limit him to 6-7 innings instead of skipping a turn.
I may have to pull rank…Chipper sits till we lose another game! Don’t worry…I’ll let Bobby know. OK.
Reality (ugh, more than likely)…have to win 2 out of 3 against the Phillies this weekend. OK.
Monday morning, 9/21…take this to the bank! OK.
Dodgers win 2 out of 3…vs. Giants
Braves win 2 out of 3…vs. Phillies
Rockies win 1 out of 3…vs. Diamondbacks
Reds win 2 out of 4…vs. Marlins
Cubs…who cares!
Wild Care Standings as of Tuesday…game-time…9/22/2009…because we will win again Monday night vs. Mets and Giants will lose vs. Arizona…so here we go…all with same number of games left now…12. OK.
Since all four teams have the same number of games remaining…no worries about that 1/2 game stuff…barring a rain-out. 12 GAMES FOR ALL…OK.
Braves need to go 4 better than the Rockies to have avoid the one game playoff with the Rockies. Win 3 games better than Colorado…and we have a one game playoff…anything other than this…and we can start pulling for the Falcons. Braves baseball would be done for 2009. And then let the speculation begin regarding all the possible scenarios (changes) for 2010. OK.
I want to get there now. Not next year. I am peculiar that way. So what. OK.
It starts Friday night with the Phillies. What we have done prior to that (7 game winning streak) does not matter come first pitch!!! OK.
On the 3rd season. Amazing.
I remember you all discussing it a ways back, and finally taking the time to watch. Would love to rehash with you about it sometime if you’re interested.
Braves now lead the Rockies by 1 run…in that all important runs scored vs. runs allowed. 1 run. Now, let’s get that 1 game by Sunday night…10/4…good buddy!
Johnny I love the way you think and I sure as hell hope you are right my friend. That would be best possible outcomes I believe. I think tomorrow would be a must win though. Happ is coming back and hopefully is a little rusty get on him early and often.
HocoJo my apologies. I went to Houston County and our cheering section at sporting events was known as the “Hoco Loco’s” I’ll go back to my oringal name. Brandon from Warner Robins.
Enter your comments hereust curious. Do you think it was a smart move using EOF for a third straight night with a 5-run lead, the Phillies on deck this weekend and Gonzalez questionable? (Mr Baseball)
not especially. I’m not saying that Cox-like every other manager in the game-makes his share of mistakes, usually through overuse of one sort or another. But to make a statement on the level that you did in that post is simply ridiculous, and i sometimes have little patients with such negative overkill. The guy knows baseball, and whether or not y’all want to believe it he has a reason for what he does. We may not always agree with him, and that is certainly our right, but to flat out state he is a moron who can’t think an inning ot two ahead is simply idiotic and makes you sound like a boob …which you probably aren’t.
uga- he didn’t have to play kj could have went with prado, which he did way later, didn’t have to play francouer, but he still did. that is why people are mad at him. those kinds of things pissed people off and now just get mad at him for anything. he is good don’t get me wrong. but has made some very unusual moves throughout the year. NO denying that.
im out man take your bobby blinders off. he has opened himself to this criticism of the people. like the guy or not he has won a ton of games, but this year there have been decisions that can be questioned. people have gone too far but that’s the nature of the job. if you don’t win people get mad. you get paid to make playoffs, if you don’t you are not getting the job done. whether its his fault or not he is the one calling the shots. night man.
Never been much a Steve Phillips fan…not sure why, maybe because he was a Met, but he seems to be the only one on the Eastern Sports Network that ever has anything even mildly positive to say about the Braves. I just wish he was a better predictor. Back when we got that Tex guy on his way through town to New York, Phillips pegged us as the favorite to win the East…at the beginning of the season he was saying we would be in the hunt…just a week or two ago, on an ESPN Sunday broadcast, he was the designated Braves guy having to deal with the two egotistical ‘pr***s’ in the booth that spent the entire night talking about whoever we were playing – certainly not us. Now he’s reminding people that we’re still here…too bad, I had hoped we could absolutely come out of nowhere over the next two weeks and become the story of the season…now we’ve got the ‘kiss of death’ from Phillips to overcome. Let’s just hope we can keep winning and see what happens. It should be fun.
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JTcobb
September 18th, 2009
3:49 am
Steve from OH: “The general rule I’ve seen others post here, and one that I like very much is simple–if you play for one run, that’s all you’ll get. Bunting (IIRC) increases your probability of scoring one run but generally decreases your overall RE. So doing things like bunting early in games is stupid b/c you waste precious opportunities to hang a big number of runs on your opponent.”
I like your rule, Steve.
All–Here’s a trivia question: Who was the Braves’ best sacrifice bunter in 2007? Answer in 5 minutes if no one posts it.
Soph
September 18th, 2009
3:51 am
Eh, gotta be at work in 4 hours anyway, jeffrey. Might as well celebrate for the next few hours.
A-ville Ranger
September 18th, 2009
3:51 am
I’m starting to come around to keeping Hudson and moving Lowe, if we could get a big bat and solid outfielder for him.I’m fairly confident we have enough inning eating pitchers to risk the move.
I’ve gotta say I’m impressed the team hasn’t caved and started phoning in.Too bad they didn’t wake up a week earlier.
Soph
September 18th, 2009
3:51 am
Besides, you’re the one with the 10:00 pm bedtime!
nolie
September 18th, 2009
3:52 am
I then looked at winning percentage for 300 game winners.I believe he was first in that regard also. (Asheville)
Winning % ? You’re actually basing something on winning%? You haven’t managed to perceive how amiss that can be as shown on this years Braves team? Winning % ??? sigh
Chop Chop
September 18th, 2009
3:52 am
I sure hope this seven-game winning streak is enough to earn Bobby a lifetime contract and five more “In My Own Words” shows. After all, I need something to be really mad about. That would do it.
bravefaninok
September 18th, 2009
3:53 am
HoCo Loco
JJ pitched 7 strong 1 er…swept em ,Bmac 3 r homer,every Starter had a hit even JJ
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
3:53 am
That was just once. Had to be up extra early this morning.
fastasballs
September 18th, 2009
3:54 am
Seven down, just need to finish 14-2 & the Rockies no better than 9-6. The pitching has been great during the streak & prior with the exception of Lowe. I wouldn’t be too heart broken if KK took Lowe’s next start if his blister doesn’t respond to treatment.
It’s good to see multible guys swinging the bat well. McCann is starting to look like his old self & Prado has had two games in a row where he’s really squared some balls up. Chipper can stay on the bench for a while longer because the other guys are getting it done. Maybe a week on the bench will get him going, kind of like a mini DL stint. We all know what the guy does when he comes off of the DL.
HoCo Loco
September 18th, 2009
3:55 am
Bravefaninok thanks for the info.
Stranger Things Have Happened.
Soph
September 18th, 2009
3:55 am
Well, I hit snooze one too many times this morning. I was late. Traffic and weather didn’t help any either.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
3:56 am
I was late as well. 316 was turrrrrrrrrible
I think 5 Bobby Cox IMOWs is a little too much. Maybe just a trilogy. An epic trilogy
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
3:57 am
We should probably throw in a couple new Bobby Dews IMOWs as well. Can’t get enough of him
Soph
September 18th, 2009
3:57 am
Ugh, I highly dislike 316.
Or, Spotlight – Bobby Cox.
JTcobb
September 18th, 2009
3:58 am
In 2007, John Smoltz was 13 of 13 in sacrifice bunt attempts.
http://www.actasports.com/sow.php?id=163
mr baseball
September 18th, 2009
3:58 am
Nolie:
Just curious. Do you think it was a smart move using EOF for a third straight night with a 5-run lead, the Phillies on deck this weekend and Gonzalez questionable?
Given how Cox has utilized his bullpen this season, how much thought do you think he gives to how a move he makes in one game might impact the next? Or how much thought he gives to how a move he makes in the 6th or 7th inning impacts what might happen in the 9th.
Other than the decision not to pinch-run for Anderson last night, which he may or may not have passed on because he was looking ahead to the 9th, I can’t think of many times he has actually been thinking ahead more than the next batter.
Mitchell
September 18th, 2009
3:58 am
Not “people” Jeff… me, fellow blogger Mitchell.
I’m trying to be optimistic but it’s all just a bit too little too late. There’s no debating the Houston game. Bobby took out a guy throwing a shut-out to go to his overworked closer and we lost. If we had won, then there might have been a reason to question the decision.
Bobby Cox cost us the game. The Reds beat us fair and square and the timing couldn’t have been worse but how many games has he screwed up otherwise?
We could have put the Marlins away and only now have we managed to get ahead of them in the standings.
I predicted months ago that they would play well in September but it’s too late. I hope I’m wrong but it’s seven in a row is not enough.
A-ville Ranger
September 18th, 2009
3:59 am
I made a careless error.The Braves did have the second best record in the NL since the break coming into tonight.The winning percentage was .606 to The Rockies .603 though.
Chop Chop
September 18th, 2009
4:02 am
I was doing a fever-dream walk around Penn Station the other day. This dude came up to me with some bootleg DVDs. One of the DVDs was “In My Own Words: Bobby Cox,” only it wasn’t in Bobby Cox’s own words. It was in Robert’s. When I woke up, “Hee Haw” was on my TV.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
4:02 am
Bobby sent in Soriano, not Mahoney
TnBrian
September 18th, 2009
4:03 am
How big was getting swept by Cincy now? I knew this would happen because we have such good pitching. Get on a major roll and get just close enough to aggravate us to no end when we fall short.
fastasballs
September 18th, 2009
4:03 am
If Gonzo can’t go the Braves had better put some runs up early so when Howard hits his usual 450 footer off Soriano it won’t win the game for them.
I agree with the few that posted about saving EOF instead of sending him out for the 3rd day in a row in a game that wasn’t close. He needs to be as fresh as possible if Gonzalez can’t go. Is Boone Logan even still on the team? Has he pitched in the last three weeks & I missed it?
Soph
September 18th, 2009
4:04 am
Ay-yi-yi. There’s no winning with some.
A-ville Ranger
September 18th, 2009
4:05 am
Nolie, That’s why I looked at era compared to contemporaries on a ratio basis. The winning percentage was secondary.
The only way I could think of to compare different periods was by direct comparison to pitchers during the same years and same league.Using that metric Grove was best.If I remember correctly Walter Johnson was second.
N8
September 18th, 2009
4:05 am
“Pepperidge Blogs Remembers”
And your point is…….?
Go do some more homework and let us know the outcome of the game on each of those dates, the circumstances in which they lost them (yeah, I’m assuming most of those comments were following losses in which they failed to execute simple tasks), and how many games out they were.
If all of those comments followed victories in which they played perfect baseball, you’ve got a point. Otherwise, you’re just confirming what those posts stated AT THAT TIME.
If when Jared from Subway was fat, people continuously commented on how fat he was, stating he had no “will to lose weight”, weren’t they correct until he actually started to lose weight?
Steve from OH
September 18th, 2009
4:07 am
Did anyone see Kevin Goldstein’s blurb about the biggest leaps forward in the Braves’ system? They were Ortegano and Milligan, but his report on Ortegano caught my eye. 88-92 FB, plus changeup, and average-to-plus CB. Apparently his MB teammates called him “Santana dos.”
Wren was was pretty upbeat about him on a radio interview I heard him give for MB…keep an eye on him.
HoCo Loco
September 18th, 2009
4:07 am
Big series this weekend, wouldn’t ya say?
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
4:10 am
I see Milligan’s a lefty…we could use a couple more of those
faction
September 18th, 2009
4:10 am
What I’m saying today: Every time I think I’m out… they pull me back in.
What I’m saying after Phillies series: Every time I think they’re in… they fall back out.
Steve from OH
September 18th, 2009
4:10 am
Oh, and good to see Marteen get back on track with a nice 3-4 tonight. Really pulling for him.
Night, all!
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
4:11 am
TnBrian –
Yeah that was big, but so was that third game of the year in Philly, that Nats series before the Cubs series, the Cubs series before the Rockies series meltdown and oh yeah the Houston series meltdown as well….
Sheesh!
Right now, I’m just liking this little streak.
Soph
September 18th, 2009
4:17 am
Oh, and jeffrey the link below shows you who Boog & Joe were trying to hook Nate up with earlier. I think you said you didn’t know who she was, right?
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/atl/ticketing/jessie_james.jsp
N8
September 18th, 2009
4:18 am
BTW, another solid effort from JJJ tonight, along with McCann showing some stick.
We still need the Rockies and Giants to lose a lot for it to work out for us (with the Braves continuing to win). But the scary thing, is that the Giants, Rockies and Braves ALL have pretty easy schedules the rest of the way, save one series for each team.
The Rockies play the @ Arizona (3), SD @ home (3), St. Louis @ home (3), Milwaukee @ home (3), and finish @ LA (3). Depending on how tight the AL West becomes, that final series against the Dodgers may or may not be tough. But the Dodgers currently have a 5 game lead. So in other words, if that pace continues, the Dodgers likely ease up that weekend gearing up for the playoffs, not wanting to get anybody hurt (though I would expect Torre to play his starters if the WC was on the line, out of respect for the game). But if the Rockies have played well enough to catch the Dodgers, making that series meaningful? That means they’ve kept pace with the winning, right?
The Giants play @ LA (3), @ Arizona (3), Cubs @ home (3), Arizona @ home (3), and finish @ SD (3).
The Braves play Philly @ home (3), @ NYM (3), @ Washington (3), Florida @ home (3), Washington @ home (4).
Clearly, by passing the Marlins tonight, and being only one game back of the Giants for 2nd place is a step (and a neccesary one) in the right direction to climbing the ladder. If the Braves could come out of this weekend series against Philly (while the Giants play the Dodgers in LA), ahead or tied with the Giants, then it’s on.
I think it’s crucial for the Braves to have soul possesion of 2nd place in the WC by Monday at the latest, to make a serious push.
Possible? Absolutely. Probable? Hard to say right now. It will be much easier to assess after the weekend. I’m not counting on it. But the light at the end of that tunnel is getting slightly brighter, we just might run out of track before we get to it.
Caleb
September 18th, 2009
4:18 am
DOB,
a long way to go, I know, but if the Braves make the playoffs, what do you think they do with Tommy Hanson and the increase of innings that he would have to throw? Especially since they’ve been already talking about skipping starts to minimize his innings.
Do they keep having him start regularly if they stay in the race for the wildcard?
N8
September 18th, 2009
4:19 am
Obviously meant NL West not AL West when discussing the Rockies and Dodgers in the last post.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
4:21 am
Pretty….haven’t heard of her though. But Nate should go for it.
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
4:24 am
Soph –
meh….she’s aight, but you’re hawter.
nice ‘brows though.
Caleb
September 18th, 2009
4:24 am
Obviously the Braves need to win tomorrow night, but the can also help Hanson with the ROY by putting some runs up against Happ. Hopefully, Happ’s rusty coming off the oblique injury.
Soph
September 18th, 2009
4:25 am
I think she’s new to the scene. I thought I heard Joe say later that Nate has a g/f so I don’t think he needs to be matched up. Nice try by them though.
Katie
September 18th, 2009
4:25 am
jeffrey- she (jessie james) is from georgia, her voice/music kinda sounds like a countrier version of christina aguilera-not really my cup of tea, but she can sing
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
4:26 am
Hey there’s DOB behind JJ!
….I think
Soph
September 18th, 2009
4:27 am
Oh, Mixxo – you lost me the other day when you said “Go Yankees”.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
4:29 am
ugh…I don’t like Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears, etc. Girls who WERE pretty (but now are incredibly fake) and can only carry a tune who have little real musical knowledge and get famous based on their looks.
Soph
September 18th, 2009
4:29 am
Katie – I mistook her for Christina Aguilera when I first heard her song on the radio. They have similar voices.
A-ville Ranger
September 18th, 2009
4:34 am
I know he didn’t have similar stuff, but Hanson puts me in mind of Orel Hershiser.It’s partly the facial similarity but the calm, intelligent demeanor puts me in mind of Orel every time Tommy pitches.
JTcobb
September 18th, 2009
4:36 am
Here’s Jessie ….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBZSK0gVClM
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
4:37 am
First time Braves have been 10 games over .500 since they were 25-15 in May 2007. Hard to believe, huh?
Any way, good vibe in the clubhouse. Too bad they couldn’t have played this loose and confident a couple weeks ago. But hey, as McCann said, they’re leaving it all on the line and hoping that, at the end of these next 16 games, it’s good enough.
McCann said this was best Braves have played over an extended period since he’s been here. He’s referring to the stretch that began just before All-Star break.
By David O’Brien
dobrien@ajc.com
Early this season no one seemed certain if Braves catcher Brian McCann would ever see clearly again, much less be a 90-RBI man again.
He dealt with his vision problem via a mid-season switch to glasses, and McCann is pushing toward 90 RBIs after driving in four runs Thursday to help Jair Jurrjens and the streaking Braves to a 7-3 win and sweep of the New York Mets.
Jurrjens (12-10) was charged with six hits and two runs (one earned) in seven innings and the Braves extended a season-high winning streak to seven games.
“We’re playing with a carefree attitude, like there’s nothing to lose,” McCann said after the Braves moved to third in the National League wild-card standings – 4-1/2 games behind idle Colorado with only 16 games to play.
The Braves — 10 games over .500 (78-68) for the first time since May 2007 — open a three-game home series Friday against NL East leader Philadelphia. They still trail the Phillies by 7-1/2 games in the division.
“This is going to be really big for us,” Jurrjens said of the series. “I think we’re not worried about [postseason chances] now, and that’s why we’re playing more relaxed. We just need to keep playing like this and having fun.”
They got their usual strong pitching Thursday, along with several key hits and highlight-reel defensive plays from shortstop Yunel Escobar and third baseman Martin Prado, filling in for injured Chipper Jones.
Since June 28, the Braves are 9-1 in games Jones hasn’t played, a turnaround from recent seasons when they’ve struggled with the veteran out of the lineup.
The Braves fell off the postseason radar with a recent 0-5 skid capped by a sweep against Cincinnati Sept. 4-6 at Turner Field. Most observers expected the Braves to go gently into the offseason.
Instead they won five of six on the road, including a three-game sweep of the Central-leading Cardinals, then came home and swept the Mets.
The Braves know they still need help from Colorado and San Francisco ahead of them in the wild-card standings, and need to keep their hottest streak going.
“This is the best we’ve played since I’ve been here, the best over a consistent period of time,” McCann said of the Braves, whose 44-28 record since June 28 is third-best in the NL behind Philadelphia (47-26) and Colorado (44-29).
For the second night in a row, there was a two-hour rain delay before the first pitch Friday. Then Jurrjens did his thing and finally got run support worthy of his performance, as the Braves scored more than two runs while he was in for just the second time in his past 10 starts.
“That felt good for him,” manager Bobby Cox said of Jurrjens getting unusually robust offensive support. “He’s at the top of his game, every time he goes out.”
Staked to a 2-0 lead in the third on Martin Prado’s RBI double and McCann’s sacrifice fly, Jurrjens lost it in the fourth when Fernando Tatis hit a two-run single after a Daniel Murphy double and a dropped fly ball by Matt Diaz.
But the Braves took control in the fifth against Mets lefty Nelson Figueroa, getting six hits including McCann’s tie-breaking three-run, two-out homer.
McCann’s 84 RBIs include 44 two-out RBIs, third-most in the majors. He’s fifth in the majors with 165 two-out RBIs since the beginning of the 2006 season.
Since ending an 0-for-20 skid, McCann is 11-for-22 with nine RBI in six games. He’s hit .381 with four homers and 14 RBI in his past 12 games against the Mets.
“He’s one of the guys everybody loves in this clubhouse,” said Jurrjens, who improved to 5-1 with a 2.62 ERA in seven starts against the Mets, including 3-0 with a 1.69 ERA in four this season. [McCann] plays hard every day — even when he’s banged up, he tries to give 100 percent. Everybody looks up to him.”
Soph
September 18th, 2009
4:40 am
“He’s one of the guys everybody loves in this clubhouse,” said Jurrjens
McFann’s gonna love that quote.
Vinings Jim
September 18th, 2009
4:43 am
Good night, all! Should finally be around most of the day tomorrow. And, cabravesfan is working from home, so we might see more of her (except when she is out running errands for me
).
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
4:45 am
By the way, Chipper said after game that he felt a lot better swinging today than yesterday, and he might be in there tomorrow. But no guarantees or anything.
Katie
September 18th, 2009
4:49 am
DOB- thanks for the quotes and info. Who doesn’t love Mac?
Soph
September 18th, 2009
4:50 am
Who doesn’t love Mac?
Mixxo doesn’t.
A-ville Ranger
September 18th, 2009
4:50 am
DOB, I’ll only post this once.You may be the best beat writer in the country.You never phone it in.Keep up the good work.
uga-brave
September 18th, 2009
4:51 am
so all of the sudden the braves win?
blow out cox all you morons. tired of all the fire bobby posts.
guess what ALL YOU IDIOTS THAT WANT BOBBY FIRED PROBABLY HAVE ZERO JOBS.
that was harsh.
one out of 12 idiots on here have no work.
Katie
September 18th, 2009
4:51 am
Soph- well he doesn’t count, since he also wanted to become a Yankees fan
uga-brave
September 18th, 2009
4:52 am
DOB,
did you see big fan yet?
Soph
September 18th, 2009
4:53 am
lol Katie. Sorry Mixxo, you don’t count anymore.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
4:54 am
So many idiots on here, and Mixxo is the one who doesn’t count?
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
4:54 am
uga-brave: haven’t had a chance yet, but I plan to either Sunday or on the road trip. You see it yet?
HoCoJo
September 18th, 2009
4:56 am
Here comes the sun……….
Soph
September 18th, 2009
4:56 am
The idiots never counted. Mixxo lost his count when he declared himself a Yankee fan. I’m still cringing…
Yunel's Frosted Tips
September 18th, 2009
4:56 am
I hope Chipper’s not in there tomorrow, don’t screw with the Mojo, hoe….
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
4:58 am
McCann’s fifth four-RBI game of the season…. McLouth has hit .413 with three homers and nine RBI in his past 12 games…. That’s seven consecutive quality starts for Jurrjens… Anderson needs 13 hits to reach 2,500….
A-Ville: Thanks. I appreciate that.
OK, I’m outta here. Surprised to be leaving so early, to tell you the truth. Considering we had a 2-hour delay before the first pitch, fortunate to be headed out of here at 1 a.m. — and not walking in rain to my car.
Tiger Woods
September 18th, 2009
4:59 am
Steve Phillips on ESPN “If the Braves go 12-4 in their lost 16 they will make the playoffs.” Bold statement by Mr. Phillips………Need 2 of 3 this weekend to stay in the chase????
Soph
September 18th, 2009
4:59 am
Yeah, I was kinda surprised to see it was only 11:30-45ish when the game ended. Went by pretty quick.
HoCoJo
September 18th, 2009
4:59 am
HoCo Loco has HoCoJo envy.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
4:59 am
Well I still like Mixxo
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
5:00 am
Steve Phillips on ESPN “If the Braves go 12-4 in their lost 16 they will make the playoffs.” Bold statement by Mr. Phillips
I don’t think we can lose more than 2 if we even want to think about the playoffs. Don’t talk to me about playoffs.
Soph
September 18th, 2009
5:01 am
I didn’t say that I didn’t like him anymore. He’s still my bud but he’s on my list now.
HoCoJo
September 18th, 2009
5:01 am
Guess what got 5-6 inches today?
My yard. Under flash flood warning til 6 AM.
David O'Brien
September 18th, 2009
5:03 am
Oh, and Caleb: Yes, if Braves keep this streak up, I think Hanson will keep making his regular starts. But if they lose a series or lose a couple of games in a three- or four-game stretch, I think we’ll probably see him have a turn skipped.
But they’re not going to mess with things right now, not while this is going on. Besides, Lowe might have to miss a turn, or at least be pushed back.
Fluid situation, but it’s not as if Hanson is pushing 200 innings or anything. They could always just elect to limit him to 6-7 innings instead of skipping a turn.
uga-brave
September 18th, 2009
5:03 am
your boy patterson was really good.
outside the box for him. phillip seymour kinda role.
plus the tara is always a good place to see a film.
i enjoyed it, it might not be for everyone.
Soph
September 18th, 2009
5:03 am
I think Gwinnett was under a flash flood watch or warning too. Or, it might’ve been yesterday.
Tiger Woods
September 18th, 2009
5:04 am
GO D-BACKS!!!!!
Barney Frank
September 18th, 2009
5:06 am
Who needs teeth?
Soph
September 18th, 2009
5:07 am
Ok, I’m out – I can’t hit snooze more than 3 times in the morning.
Night, all!
uga-brave
September 18th, 2009
5:08 am
wow,
bay area steve if you are around, this is some weird time stuff.
so dave knows i say lets go to the star bar. pretty sure dave and i saw pretty good rockabilly there.
jeffrey d
September 18th, 2009
5:09 am
Me too…night Soph/everyone
Johnny Schuerholz
September 18th, 2009
5:21 am
I may have to pull rank…Chipper sits till we lose another game! Don’t worry…I’ll let Bobby know. OK.
Reality (ugh, more than likely)…have to win 2 out of 3 against the Phillies this weekend. OK.
Monday morning, 9/21…take this to the bank! OK.
Dodgers win 2 out of 3…vs. Giants
Braves win 2 out of 3…vs. Phillies
Rockies win 1 out of 3…vs. Diamondbacks
Reds win 2 out of 4…vs. Marlins
Cubs…who cares!
Wild Care Standings as of Tuesday…game-time…9/22/2009…because we will win again Monday night vs. Mets and Giants will lose vs. Arizona…so here we go…all with same number of games left now…12. OK.
Rockies…….84 – 66…
Braves………81 – 69…
Giants………80 – 70…
Marlins……..80 – 70…
Since all four teams have the same number of games remaining…no worries about that 1/2 game stuff…barring a rain-out. 12 GAMES FOR ALL…OK.
Braves need to go 4 better than the Rockies to have avoid the one game playoff with the Rockies. Win 3 games better than Colorado…and we have a one game playoff…anything other than this…and we can start pulling for the Falcons. Braves baseball would be done for 2009. And then let the speculation begin regarding all the possible scenarios (changes) for 2010. OK.
I want to get there now. Not next year. I am peculiar that way. So what. OK.
It starts Friday night with the Phillies. What we have done prior to that (7 game winning streak) does not matter come first pitch!!! OK.
BELIEVE
OK.
NO MORE CHIPPER
September 18th, 2009
5:22 am
First time Braves have been 10 games over .500 since they were 25-15 in May 2007. Hard to believe, huh? – DOB
Not really dude if you have been watching the same team I have the past three years.
Caleb
September 18th, 2009
5:22 am
DOB,
thanks man. I always appreciate reading your responses to all our questions. Thanks for taking the time.
By the way, I know I’m a bit behind, but I’m watching The Wire now on DVD on the
Caleb
September 18th, 2009
5:23 am
On the 3rd season. Amazing.
I remember you all discussing it a ways back, and finally taking the time to watch. Would love to rehash with you about it sometime if you’re interested.
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
5:25 am
jeffrey d ==
awww shucks! Thanks mang! Yer ‘aight yerself.
I go to Cubase to lay down some tracks and…….well, no wonder my ears were burnin’
Mixxo
September 18th, 2009
5:26 am
Night ya’ll…….winning streak has me all inspired n’ stuff!
Johnny Schuerholz
September 18th, 2009
5:30 am
One other thing…
Braves now lead the Rockies by 1 run…in that all important runs scored vs. runs allowed. 1 run. Now, let’s get that 1 game by Sunday night…10/4…good buddy!
Caleb
September 18th, 2009
5:32 am
Meant to say on the 4th season of The Wire.
uga-brave
September 18th, 2009
5:36 am
i am bobby cox fan. for all you idiots that dont get it he manages the best clubhouse.
the guys love playing for him.
but then again we are surronded by mensa members.
sad day when # 6 is gone.
you idiots will miss him. you dont know how good he is.
so you morons want bobby vallentine. yeah that guy is stellar.
Tiger Woods
September 18th, 2009
5:40 am
Johnny I love the way you think and I sure as hell hope you are right my friend. That would be best possible outcomes I believe. I think tomorrow would be a must win though. Happ is coming back and hopefully is a little rusty get on him early and often.
Tiger Woods
September 18th, 2009
5:41 am
uga-brave
you are very pissed off tonight?? very bitter in everything you have to say. take a chill pill! or just take some pills…
uga-brave
September 18th, 2009
5:46 am
yo tiger,
this aint your place. tired of all the bobby hate.
uga-brave
September 18th, 2009
5:51 am
most of all you idiots that call cox out are morons.
i read your afteroon crap. put one and one together.
you morons are calling out one of the BEST MANAGERS in baseball history.
Brandon from Warner Robins
September 18th, 2009
5:52 am
HocoJo my apologies. I went to Houston County and our cheering section at sporting events was known as the “Hoco Loco’s” I’ll go back to my oringal name. Brandon from Warner Robins.
uga-brave
September 18th, 2009
6:08 am
we have to go 13-3.
if we go 13-3 we will play on monday.
Tiger Woods
September 18th, 2009
6:09 am
i do agree uga.
uga-brave
September 18th, 2009
6:20 am
what 44-28 since june 28th. yeah bobby’s fault.
he was crippled with k.j., schaffer, and francoeur.
that is a third of the lineup that nobody would of wanted.
you want to to why that we dont get into the postseason blame frenchy.
the dude killed us. there is no doubt he killed this team. nice year k.j.
nolie
September 18th, 2009
6:24 am
Enter your comments hereust curious. Do you think it was a smart move using EOF for a third straight night with a 5-run lead, the Phillies on deck this weekend and Gonzalez questionable? (Mr Baseball)
not especially. I’m not saying that Cox-like every other manager in the game-makes his share of mistakes, usually through overuse of one sort or another. But to make a statement on the level that you did in that post is simply ridiculous, and i sometimes have little patients with such negative overkill. The guy knows baseball, and whether or not y’all want to believe it he has a reason for what he does. We may not always agree with him, and that is certainly our right, but to flat out state he is a moron who can’t think an inning ot two ahead is simply idiotic and makes you sound like a boob …which you probably aren’t.
uga-brave
September 18th, 2009
6:27 am
why not 13-3. that is the number. 91 wins. that gets us in a playoff.
Tiger Woods
September 18th, 2009
6:29 am
uga- he didn’t have to play kj could have went with prado, which he did way later, didn’t have to play francouer, but he still did. that is why people are mad at him. those kinds of things pissed people off and now just get mad at him for anything. he is good don’t get me wrong. but has made some very unusual moves throughout the year. NO denying that.
Tiger Woods
September 18th, 2009
6:32 am
im out man take your bobby blinders off. he has opened himself to this criticism of the people. like the guy or not he has won a ton of games, but this year there have been decisions that can be questioned. people have gone too far but that’s the nature of the job. if you don’t win people get mad. you get paid to make playoffs, if you don’t you are not getting the job done. whether its his fault or not he is the one calling the shots. night man.
DirtyDawg
September 18th, 2009
6:32 am
Never been much a Steve Phillips fan…not sure why, maybe because he was a Met, but he seems to be the only one on the Eastern Sports Network that ever has anything even mildly positive to say about the Braves. I just wish he was a better predictor. Back when we got that Tex guy on his way through town to New York, Phillips pegged us as the favorite to win the East…at the beginning of the season he was saying we would be in the hunt…just a week or two ago, on an ESPN Sunday broadcast, he was the designated Braves guy having to deal with the two egotistical ‘pr***s’ in the booth that spent the entire night talking about whoever we were playing – certainly not us. Now he’s reminding people that we’re still here…too bad, I had hoped we could absolutely come out of nowhere over the next two weeks and become the story of the season…now we’ve got the ‘kiss of death’ from Phillips to overcome. Let’s just hope we can keep winning and see what happens. It should be fun.