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GregNorton
September 16th, 2009
9:14 pm
Come on guys, I only need 10 hits in my next 11 at bats to bring my average to .250! Besides, Bobby likes me just the way I am. Can I now get my uniforms, bats, gloves, locker and cup back now?
Preston (Braves really wasted their 1st round pick on me - 1972) Hanna...
September 16th, 2009
9:14 pm
If the Braves get this one in tonight…Lowe needs to pick himself up and burn up some innings…hopefully more effective than usual. Out of 30 starts…The $15 million dollar man has only pitched 8 innings…twice! Yikes. Lotta money for 177 innings…averaging just under 6 innings per start. Mr. Lowe…needs to step it up these last few starts. 14 wins is nice…but he gets a helluva lot more run support than J.J. and Javy ever see! Lowe gets 5.12 runs per start…and with that much run support…Lowe could be going for win number 20 tonight…instead of win number 15…
Just some thoughts…and yes I was a officially ruled a bust…yet my career ERA is about the same as Lowe’s this year…4.61 mine to 4.47 for old Derek…and I never made 1/4 the money he made this year as I did in 8 seasons…
Soph
September 16th, 2009
9:14 pm
Ugh, Lowe messing with his fingers again.
McFann :Ô:
September 16th, 2009
9:16 pm
Ms. Rogers some kind of creepy, green flying insect just landed on my screen. perhaps in an attempt to blog. See how popular you guys are?
Mixxo
September 16th, 2009
9:16 pm
HoCo Loco –
I’ll give ‘em 5 more minutes to get the game on…..then I’m calling somebody!
McFann :Ô:
September 16th, 2009
9:16 pm
Ugh…does Joe hafta put such emphasis on it–”Brian McCann in the cleanup spot”…
creepy, green flying insect
September 16th, 2009
9:17 pm
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZ….. I’m heading down to chill on Bobby’s belly– bye bloggers. BZZZZZzzzzzz
A-ville Ranger
September 16th, 2009
9:18 pm
I word on that 98 WS team.I’d been farting around reviewing some of those 90s teams.Looking at season stats for starting pitching. I came to wonder if there had ever been a better group than that one.
I did some Google searching and found several experts who listed them as the #1 group in history.The same site had 3 of those 90s teams in the top 10…ALL TIME. I’m left wobdering how any team could have swept them.
Another thing,The often repeated idea that Mad Dog and Glavine under performed in post season during that period.In 98 they shared the record for most consecutive post season starts of pitching at least 7 innings, while giving up 2 or fewer…how did they not win more titles ?
HoCo Loco
September 16th, 2009
9:19 pm
Mixxo I’ve been tempted to call in and make a purchase
Claudell (still looking for that white line...found it most of the time!) Washington
September 16th, 2009
9:20 pm
I would let Matty (ice) Diaz play. Bobby your killing me…Oh, well…time to break out ‘whitey’…
creepy, green flying insect now hiding inside Norton's batting glove
September 16th, 2009
9:21 pm
They’ll never find me in here!
TnBrian
September 16th, 2009
9:25 pm
Quite the “cleanup hitter”, that Mac.
McFann :Ô:
September 16th, 2009
9:25 pm
Hey! Earth to McCann! The guy throws nothing but balls! WHY ARE YOU FREAKING SWINGING AT EVERYTHING??
DANGIT!!!
A-ville Ranger
September 16th, 2009
9:26 pm
Oh, the record Mad Dog and Glavine shared was, 8 straight post season games of going at least 7 innings while giving up 2 or fewer earned runs.
McCann
September 16th, 2009
9:29 pm
Oh hey earth, just slugging it out you know. Maybe I can get Frenchy to teach me some hitting tricks in the off season. Heh. Heh. Heh.
Mixxo
September 16th, 2009
9:29 pm
HoCo Loco –
Tried calling Cox, absolutely NO help whatsoever with their automated deal. Guess I have to watch the Red Sox. Can’t find a radio feed either for some reason.
Must be a sign.
Oh well, gues it’s “just a sign.
Mixxo
September 16th, 2009
9:29 pm
dang computer!
McFann Ô
September 16th, 2009
9:30 pm
Oh brother…
HoCo Loco
September 16th, 2009
9:31 pm
you tried f.m. 1055? they should be on there Mixxo.
Jeff Francoeur on an iphone from 2B
September 16th, 2009
9:31 pm
Maybe I can give him some catching tips too!
dogsbrekky
September 16th, 2009
9:32 pm
18 Wheels – yes I am familiar with that animal and S African wine in general as the ex missus’ family were 1/2 South African, they make some good meritage type wines… but I am stuck here cause I have been drinking…, oh well tomorrow
Jim N.
September 16th, 2009
9:32 pm
I’m frankly sick and tired of all the morans on this blog wanting to fire Bobby Cox.
McFann Ô
September 16th, 2009
9:32 pm
“Slugging” what out? You’ve got 70 freaking K’s!
5 more and it’s a new career-high…
Carroll Rogers
September 16th, 2009
9:33 pm
nice touch on the song for Francoeur by Matthew the organist. Obladi, Oblada, life goes on….
A Cardinals fan with a mullet
September 16th, 2009
9:33 pm
Yeah…GET A BRAIN MORANS!
McFann Ô
September 16th, 2009
9:34 pm
Catcher’s interference? When did this happen?
Cursed Gameday…
Paul Lentz
September 16th, 2009
9:34 pm
White Blood Cells………before the trade was made, I would agree with your 8:52pm posting. However, given the fact that Francoeur has played better with the Mets, I just dont see them low-balling Francoeur. However, unless the Mets non-tender Francoeur, he will get awarded at least $7-8 mil in arbitration. Just watch.
TnBrian
September 16th, 2009
9:35 pm
ELEVEN errors on McCann? But…he’s a…..catcher. HUH? I’m confused.
Soph
September 16th, 2009
9:36 pm
McFann -
It was a few batters ago. I think his glove was out too far and when the batter swung, the bat hit his glove. Blah.
TnBrian
September 16th, 2009
9:37 pm
Laborin’ Lowe back at it. Surpised that name hasn’t caught on with this guy.
Soph
September 16th, 2009
9:37 pm
Dammit! WTF?
McFann Ô
September 16th, 2009
9:37 pm
I hate this game…
ChurchMan
September 16th, 2009
9:37 pm
Lowe is a very frustrating, expensive #1 starter
The blister that appears on Lowe's finger whenever he pitches to the Mets
September 16th, 2009
9:38 pm
Hey guys! Remember me!? I’m making an appearance early tonight in case it starts to rain again.
McFann Ô
September 16th, 2009
9:38 pm
Soph–
Hmm. Thanks. Least it didn’t hit his finger.
A FAN
September 16th, 2009
9:38 pm
derek freakin lowe!!!!
RIP 2009 Atlanta Braves
September 16th, 2009
9:38 pm
Oh well.
McFann Ô
September 16th, 2009
9:38 pm
What the heck is his problem??
Mixxo
September 16th, 2009
9:39 pm
HoCo Loco
September 16th, 2009
9:31 pm
you tried f.m. 1055? they should be on there Mixxo.
Got it there ….thanks a lot!
Soph
September 16th, 2009
9:39 pm
This is frustrating.
McFann – yeah, the bat hit his glove knocking it off. I don’t think it caught any part of him though.
ChurchMan
September 16th, 2009
9:39 pm
.. and some people want to trade JJ and Vazquez? I say eat some money and ship em!
Paul Lentz
September 16th, 2009
9:40 pm
I just dont understand what McCann was doing on that play. He hesistated too long to throw to throw. And then he just holds the ball on the single by Wright.
One physical error (catcher’s interference)…..and 2 mental errors on 2 different throws home.
Brian McCann is not helping Derek Lowe any. Yet many of you want to see McCann remain a catcher.
JolliesOff
September 16th, 2009
9:40 pm
How many times in his damn career is this guy gonna get charged with catchers interference? Enough is enough, careless idiot.
The blister that appears on Lowe's finger whenever he pitches to the Mets
September 16th, 2009
9:40 pm
See ya next inning!
Rob from SC - AKA Derek Lowe Sucks
September 16th, 2009
9:40 pm
Lowe
Stop trying to blame you hands/fingers. Your giving up runs because you suck
Chris
September 16th, 2009
9:40 pm
Leave it to the ace to blow the winning streak. Who is Thole? A name to remember perhaps.
Mr. Enigma
September 16th, 2009
9:40 pm
I thought Derek Lowe was one of those guys that was supposed to be durable all year? He’s been a pile of crap since June.
brent a.
September 16th, 2009
9:41 pm
Thought this would be as good a time as any to post this article . . .
http://mvn.com/aroundthemajors/2009/08/derek-lowes-contract-is-just-fine.html
Ambrose
September 16th, 2009
9:41 pm
So ah’ wuz listenin’ t’de rain delay show on de transista’ while dey wuz takin’ calls. Dese people are some uh de dumbest fans ah’ gots’ eva’ heard; yet I’ve neva’ heard o’ met one in real life.
Broncs
September 16th, 2009
9:42 pm
Yes. So happy we have crappy, horribly overpaid, time to retire Lowe on the mound with the better pitcher Kawakami in the bullpen.
6-4-3
September 16th, 2009
9:42 pm
Lowe is pitching like a very expensive 5th starter, or middle reliever, at best.
kirkinga
September 16th, 2009
9:42 pm
I’d like to see them skip Lowe’s next start and let Kawakami pitch.
fastasballs
September 16th, 2009
9:43 pm
I’m hoping Kawakami is going to get warmed up shortly. This looks like the same game we watched a month ago.
Soph
September 16th, 2009
9:43 pm
Brian McCann is not helping Derek Lowe any. Yet many of you want to see McCann remain a catcher.
Lowe’s not helping himself any either. He got smoked that inning – and walking Castillo after he had two strikes on him? Not helping yourself.
Brian McCann's glasses
September 16th, 2009
9:43 pm
Hey “fans” lay off how about it? He’s only human. Plus, I like this gig better than being Drew Caray’s glasses. Barkers Beauties ain’t got nothing on baseball groupies.
McFann Ô
September 16th, 2009
9:44 pm
Soph–
OK, I gotcha…thanks.
My pride hurts…
Carroll Rogers
September 16th, 2009
9:44 pm
Medlen is up in the bullpen
Ambrose
September 16th, 2009
9:44 pm
Anyone tired uh Joe Simpson’s constant barrage uh spin, apologizin’ and ’suse-makin’ fo’ Martin Prado? It’s becomin’ likes wid Francoeur all ova’ again. “Oh Prado be tired, had ‘headaches and neva’ played some full season and dat be why he be battin’ .203 dis past month”….oh boo hoo!
Mixxo
September 16th, 2009
9:44 pm
Paul Lentz — ” …Yet many of you want to see McCann remain a catcher.”
I KNOW you’re not talking about me. He can go…and take Lowe with him for all I care.
He’s a nice guy.
Horrible catcher though.
Kelly's Johnson
September 16th, 2009
9:45 pm
Sorry..been away for a few days…Paul ??…Are you suggesting the Braves should play McCann somewhere other than catcher ??….Just curious….
Tommy (another 1st round bust...but blame Texas, not Atlanta) Boggs...
September 16th, 2009
9:45 pm
Think Mr. Lowe must be on something…
Looks totally lost…and it is start number 31…not start number 1…
Injury?…who cares…just win baby!
And Ryan Church…they teach hitting the cut-off man in Little League!
Soph
September 16th, 2009
9:45 pm
Churchy!
Paul Lentz
September 16th, 2009
9:45 pm
Soph……….Castillo should have never been up at the plate in the 2nd. McCann’s catcher’s interference gave the Mets an extra out. All those runs are unearned.
McFann Ô
September 16th, 2009
9:46 pm
Paul–
Don’t Give Up On Mac
Paul Lentz
September 16th, 2009
9:46 pm
Inning over. Norton’s up.
fastasballs
September 16th, 2009
9:46 pm
There’s one run back
Broncs
September 16th, 2009
9:46 pm
McCann is making $15 million like Lowe and has carried us at parts of the season. I forgive him. Derek Lowe was a HUGE mistake
And to keep Lowe we have to get rid of a huge success story in 2010, Vazquez. So Lowe hurts us twice.
Derek Lowe
September 16th, 2009
9:46 pm
My blister is bothering me. This game is meaningless to me. I know that the Braves are going to pay me regardless. Remember I am the #1 pitcher for this team. Well, I get paid like the #1 pitcher. Oh yeah, Norton is batting for me. I am out!!!! Good luck Braves.
fastasballs
September 16th, 2009
9:46 pm
Norton is going deep
kirkinga
September 16th, 2009
9:47 pm
Never thought I’d say it, but “good to see Norton” at bat here!
Soph
September 16th, 2009
9:47 pm
Oh geez…
I have a feeling I’m gonna get to read some funny posts in a few minutes.
Paul Lentz
September 16th, 2009
9:47 pm
McFann Ô……….I’m not giving up on McCann “the hitter”. I’m giving up McCann “the catcher”.
JolliesOff
September 16th, 2009
9:47 pm
Anyone tired uh Joe Simpson’s constant barrage uh spin, apologizin’ and ’suse-makin’ fo’ Martin Prado? (Amb)
nope but I’m getting damn tired of your stupid posts in whatever vernacular that is supposed to be.
The blister that appears on Lowe's finger whenever he pitches to the Mets
September 16th, 2009
9:47 pm
Hey where do I sign up for direct deposit? I’m not sure I can fill in the deposit slip for my paycheck with this hand.
Mixxo
September 16th, 2009
9:48 pm
Phew! At least Lowe is outta here!
Broncs
September 16th, 2009
9:48 pm
Of course I meant that McCann ISN’T making 15 million like Lowe.
brent a.
September 16th, 2009
9:48 pm
“Atlanta Braves right-hander Derek Lowe had one of the worst innings and outings of his career last night, prompting team beat reporter David O’Brien to write the following:
Get this: After Lowe gave up a career-high eight runs in the excruciating fourth inning of the Mets’ 9-4 win last night (he was finally pulled with two outs after the ninth hit of the inning), it made it the fourth time since the 2007 All-Star break that Lowe has given up at least 10 hits and eight runs while failing to make it out of the fourth inning of a starter.
O’Brien was spot-on here regarding Lowe:
Is he a bonafide ace? No. He’s a durable guy who you can count on to make every start and give you a lot of innings, and when his sinkerball is on he can shut a team down. But last night’s game served as a bit of a reminder that there’s three years and $45 mill remaining on Lowe’s contract after this season.
And a reminder that when you’re not a strikeout pitcher, it’s tough to stop the bleeding sometimes. Particularly if you’re left in to get that elusive groundball out even as things — meaning the game — are caving around you.
True, Lowe is not a great pitcher. This should come as a shock to no one–not even Atlanta general manager Frank Wren. Wren didn’t sign Lowe to a four-year, $60 million deal to be a great pitcher, though. He signed him to be a guy who would give the Braves 200-plus average-to-decent innings over four seasons.
FanGraphs provides a great resource for assessing player value, listing what a player would receive on the open market based on his performance. Lowe, it is worth pointing out, has outperformed his actual salary the last three years. This season he’s been worth $12.5 million, which is somewhat close to his current average annual salary of $15 million.
Clearly, Lowe’s value lies in the fact that he’s not likely to be below average in a season and he’s going to give the Braves 200-plus innings. That’s not as valuable to a team as what a CC Sabathia or Johan Santana will give, but a) those type of pitchers are obviously much more expensive and b) Tommy Hanson could be one of the 15 best pitchers in the National League within the next four years at millions less than the going rate for one of the 15 best.
All things considered, the Braves are in fine shape on a starting rotation front. Anyone who expected Lowe to be, or thinks he should be, a Cy Young contender simply because of his contract needs to do their research.”
http://mvn.com/aroundthemajors/2009/08/derek-lowes-contract-is-just-fine.html
Soph
September 16th, 2009
9:48 pm
At least he connected.
Paul Lentz
September 16th, 2009
9:49 pm
Glad to see the fly ball instead of double play by Norton.
Gov Clinton Tyree
September 16th, 2009
9:49 pm
Nice job Norton.
ChurchMan
September 16th, 2009
9:49 pm
well the good thing is that Norton was used early on so we dont have to see him again
fastasballs
September 16th, 2009
9:49 pm
Another 150 feet & this game would have been tied up.
Kelly's Johnson
September 16th, 2009
9:49 pm
Paul ??..So..I assume…you think McCann should be converted to 1B…for the Braves??
The Seven Words You Can Never Say On Braves Broadcast
September 16th, 2009
9:49 pm
It is time to fire Bobby Cox.
Carroll Rogers
September 16th, 2009
9:50 pm
Some photos and info about Hal McCoy night with the Reds. Pretty cool!
http://redsintern.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/09/hal_mccoy_night.html
dogsbrekky
September 16th, 2009
9:51 pm
McFann and Carroll – if it is a GREEN BUG eat it, they are tasty… just stay away from those lil black bastards
brent a.
September 16th, 2009
9:51 pm
“well the good thing is that Norton was used early on so we dont have to see him again”
What? No double-switch?
Ambrose
September 16th, 2009
9:51 pm
Need t’get da damn jolliesoff.
Soph
September 16th, 2009
9:52 pm
Soph……….Castillo should have never been up at the plate in the 2nd.
I know and I agree but the whole inning can’t be put on that in my opinion. They hit the ball hard and like I said before, walking Castillo hurt too. Stuff happens, gotta keep your cool and work your way through it. Just my opinion though.
Broncs
September 16th, 2009
9:52 pm
Hey has anyone mentioned how bad Norton is? If not, it’s worth mentioning
Roja
September 16th, 2009
9:53 pm
How often do you see a pinch hitter hitting 43 points LOWER than the pitcher he’s hitting for (and I use the term “hitting” very loosely)??
Roja
September 16th, 2009
9:54 pm
Has anyone mentioned the pictures that Norton has of Bobby with the chickens?
Carroll Rogers
September 16th, 2009
9:54 pm
Lowe had to leave with a blister on his right ring finger
sully
September 16th, 2009
9:54 pm
Paul Lentz…
2 of the 3 runs were earned…check the box scores.
dogsbrekky
September 16th, 2009
9:54 pm
I have been banned from eating carbs
of eff it, I am fighting back and
DRiNKING LOTS OF CARBS
fastasballs
September 16th, 2009
9:55 pm
Why not bring in Kawakami? Medlen isn’t going to go but 3 innings max.
Soph
September 16th, 2009
9:55 pm
Let’s go Med! Get back on track.
Roja
September 16th, 2009
9:55 pm
And I paid mlb.com $19.95 to see this???
TnBrian
September 16th, 2009
9:55 pm
I cannot defend Lowe anymore. Blister me this, blister me that… he hasn’t been what a $15m a year pitcher should be since his first few starts way back in April.
Roja
September 16th, 2009
9:56 pm
Bet you Lowe can sac bunt better with a blister than Norton can “hit”!