12:27 pm September 16, 2009, by Carroll Rogers
Tell It Like It Is
September 16th, 20096:58 pm
The 1998 Braves won the world series with a total annual salary of $45.2 million. They had such great players as Gant,Grissom and Justice in the outfield along with Maddux,Smoltz and Glavine on the mound. The 2008 Braves have a total annual salary of $96,7 million. They have an outfield of Anderson, McLouth, Diaz/Church and a pitching staff of Jurrgens,Lowe, KK and Hanson. They also have seven players who collectively earn $69 million. The salaries do not match performance. Time for a change. Let all the long time players with inflated salaries go and bring up and pay the young talent like the Marlins do. It IS What It IS.
September 16th, 20097:02 pm
Tell It Like It Is
The Braves didn’t win the World Series in 1998. They won in 1995. In 1998, the Yankees swept the Padres in the World Series.
Pepe (1 HR in 9 seasons) Frias...
I’m hooked on a feeling, I’m high on believing…(Blue Swede best version)
Get ready, cause here I come…(like the Rare Earth version better)
Hey now, if I can only hit 1 HR in 9 seasons (to be fair…only 1,346 AB’s though…) then the Braves can finish like the Rockies did a couple years ago…
BELIEVE…and dreams can come true.
(OK…sweep doubleheader tomorrow…do not think we can get it in tonight…Rockies lose tonight…we are still alive people!)
September 16th, 20097:05 pm
I remember that 1998 world series. That was awesome, almost as cool as the 95 series.
September 16th, 20097:06 pm
Tell It Like It Is – about the only thing on the Braves that was as low as $45M in 1998 were the jewels Ted Turner gave to “Hanoi Jane”
September 16th, 20097:13 pm
You are correct. That was a typo. I was there the night when Justice hit one out to beat the Indians and fulfill a promise. The 1998 Braves had a total annual salary of $59.5 million. My point remains the same.
September 16th, 20097:14 pm
Damn Rain!!! Just think if we would have swept the Reds instead of them sweeping us……..
September 16th, 20097:15 pm
ozzie McCann should not be battling clean up over LaRoche but that is Bobby in a nutshell. Mac struggles all summer and then has a few good games so you can bet Mac will bat 4th from now until Sept 30 even if he hits .140.
I wouldn’t say he’s struggled all Summer…he had a fairly rotten August–batted .228 with 5 homers, 3 doubles, 18 strikeouts, and 6 walks, though he did have 20 RBI–and started September lousy…
But he had a close-to-great May–hit .394…only had 3 homers, 3 doubles, and 11 RBI, though. He walked (11) more times than he K’d (7), the only month he’s done so besides April (7 walks, 5 K’s).
His June was pretty good–.295 with 3 homers, 8 doubles, a triple, and 13 RBI–but that’s when the K’s started to be a problem–he K’d 15 times and walked 8 times.
In July, he hit .287 with 4 homers, a season-high 13 doubles, a season-high 21 RBI, 18 K’s, and 7 walks.
But still, I do not think he should be batting cleanup…ESPECIALLY against lefties (tonight’s starter is a righty, though).
OK, cann we start this game already?
September 16th, 20097:23 pm
I mean, this is ridiculous…a rain delay while they’re on PTV? Now they won’t be showing Spotlight!
September 16th, 20097:24 pm
I was feeling kinda HUNGRY
I had a real cravin’
I went to Ayers Rock
and ate Azaria Chamberlin
signed the Dingo
Carl (1970 ROY) Morton...
September 16th, 20097:26 pm
Really enjoyed Atlanta between 1973 – 1976…4 seasons with the Braves. Once pitched a 10 hit shutout at old Atlanta Stadium on 9/17/73…(yes that was the name back then…none of this BS Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium crap anymore)…
Are the Braves going to ever pitch a complete game – shutout…with Bobby Cox calling the shots?
Bobby, ever heard “The Gambler” by Kenny Rogers? Take a clue from the best part of the song…
“You got to know when to hold em, know when to fold em,
Know when to walk away and know when to run.
You never count your money when youre sittin at the table.
Therell be time enough for countin when the dealins done.”
Work the starters smarter Bobby…do not always go by that damn pitch count…have a gut feeling every once in a while…(and no…not when to play Kelly Johnson or to use that PH specialist…Greg Norton…)
“Said, if youre gonna play the game, boy, ya gotta learn to play it right.”
These Braves are not done Bobby…let em’ play…and you too…can get back to the post season?
Tell It Like It Is-Are you still ranting about the salary structure? Gas used to be .25 a gallon and a Snickers Bar used to be a nickel. They’re not anymore. A cup of coffee won’t be a dime again and most teams will not have $39- $59 million salaries again, either. Since you won’t get the players to agree to salary caps and as long as baseball is making $$$$ in the billions of dollars each year, I don’t see it happening. The only recourse is to quit watching baseball or become a Pirates” fan.
September 16th, 20097:30 pm
detroitchris: That super-group of sorts sounds like it could be incredible. That’s first I’ve heard of it, that article you linked to. I’ll be interested to see first reports of what it sounds like, how good it is.
By the way, you got Nas’ untitled CD, didn’t you? The most recent one, that was going to have the controversial title before he changed it? Man, the more I play that, the more I think it’s the best album from the genre in many years. Love that CD.
On a different music bent, someone sent me the new Drivin N Cryin CD that’s coming out in a couple weeks. Just got it in mail, so haven’t played it yet. Anybody heard it yet?
September 16th, 20097:35 pm
Bowman just told me he saw a tweet that Hal McCoy did threw out the first pitch tonight as part of the festivites in his honor in Cincy tonight. he bounced it, but hey, he’s legally blind, what do you expect. And apparently Aaron Boone, who was in town with the Astros, is the one who caught him. That’s so awesome. Because Boone, a former Red, is the one who sat Hal down in a chair in the clubhouse one day and talked Hal out of retiring, something Hal had considered when his eyes failed. Now it’s a shame he’s basically forced into retirement now. Oh, keep reading folks, please!
The fact of the matter is, is that the Braves will be in the playoffs next year. Our starting pitchers are only going to give up 162 earned runs, with 162 complete games. We will never have to go the bullpen so that we can make bloggers happy. It will be amazing!!!! So just throw everything out the window and lets pitch our way to the world series!!!! 2010 World Series Champs= ATLANTA BRAVES
18 Wheels of Love
September 16th, 20097:36 pm
Hard to beat early Drivin’ n’ Cryin. Mystery Road and Whispers Tame the Lion were part of my early foray into ‘alternative music’….and of course REM.
All I know is I am jazzed for the new Alice in Chains coming out in a few weeks. Downloaded the new single today and it sounds pretty damn good.
tarp is back on. We’re moving in the wrong direction.
September 16th, 20097:38 pm
Put it on HBO, my favorite movie is on!
September 16th, 20097:41 pm
and that movie is 18 Wheels ??
September 16th, 20097:42 pm
looks like a big opening behind the weather in atlanta right now, maybe this weather wll be out soon and we can get this game in.
Can we start the game… otherwise I have to watch this sad ass sheet on SNY
September 16th, 20097:43 pm
My favorite movie is “The Great Escape”,
almost “Fight Club”
The Secret Life of Bees
September 16th, 20097:45 pm
It’s cool to have directv and watch the game uninterrupted. I can see them roll the tarp on and off the field and I don’t have to watch commercials. If only they would do a scan of the crowd during normal commercials.
September 16th, 20097:47 pm
I can’t believe it the Red Sox are on ESPN tonight. No one likes them it makes no sense!?!?!?!?!
September 16th, 20097:48 pm
still watching a tarp here on Peachtree, looks like a ghost town. Is this a Marlins game?
I don’t see what’s the big deal about these FJM fellows — they’re just a rip-off of Random’s style, with some swear words tossed in.
I get enough of Random here. Too much.
September 16th, 20097:50 pm
Yeah, I mean, start the game! Sheesh…they’re on PTV, for cryin’ out loud! It’s not like they cann show Spotlight…
September 16th, 20097:53 pm
LaRoche would have made the play that Kotchman just had and didn’t make. Frank Wren = Genius.
I’m watching the Harwell tribute now. I have the Royals feed on Extra Innings but they stayed with the game to show it.
September 16th, 20097:54 pm
September 16th, 2009
A little harsh. Happ kept the Phillies alive while their original starters collapsed – Park, Myers, Moyer. In fact, if you throw in Hamels and his subpar year, Happ really was their only good starter for a few months. You can’t discount that. Hanson deserves the Award – he is finishing strong – no one is going to hold his first start against him – let’s see what happens – both of them are solid starters and will be pitching for years to come.
Somebody named dcp was expecting me to be impartial and fair minded in my view of who should win the Rookie of the Year award.
Not gonna happen.
September 16th, 20097:55 pm
Do I have time to drive from Brunswick to make the game? I believe I could call balls and strikes right behind the plate and everyone could hear my calls.
September 16th, 20097:59 pm
Something to pass the time if you need it. Kind of fun to do really. Test your knowledge. Carroll, I’m sure you don’t have much to do you can play some games!!! lol just kidding.
September 16th, 20098:03 pm
Kotchman base hit!!! Steve Phillips “It’s been a tough run for Kotchman since coming over from the Braves.” He has a .196 average since going to the Red Sox that’s not too bad…….
Almost 92, in the third inning, Ernie Harwell strode briskly to the pitcher’s mound and looked and sounded incredible. He spoke strongly and without a script, beginning with the thought that he did not want to delay the game. Ernie has clearly taken good care of his physical fitness to look so good at his age and with incurable cancer. He told Tiger fans and citizens of Michigan that they were the greatest. Where are you, Tom Selleck and John Smoltz, two of the biggest Tiger fans?
September 16th, 20098:11 pm
Asked thoughts about Tommy Hanson, Jeff Francoeur said, “He’ll look good in (Yankee) pinstripes in six years.”
September 16th, 20098:12 pm
September 16th, 2009
SNY here are interviewing JJ, great to see some attention for our Bravos in the big apple…
Thats because there are no muts fans healthy enough to answer questions on an interview.
September 16th, 20098:14 pm
HoCo Loco –
Ya know what?
He’s right too.
SNY here are interviewing JJ, great to see some attention for our Bravos in the big apple…
Thats because there are no muts players healthy enough to answer questions on an interview.
September 16th, 20098:20 pm
Are they goning to play? If so, I’m headed down to the Ted.
September 16th, 20098:22 pm
Are they goning to play?
September 16th, 20098:23 pm
No, he would look ugly in pinstripes. Really ugly.
HoCo, did Francoeur really say that?
September 16th, 20098:29 pm
Doc – is there an echo in here
god now I am watching re-runs of Top Chef but with Padma rather than that hot lil Katie-Lee
September 16th, 20098:32 pm
Hey Shamus, that is great news! I’ve been wondering how it was going for you. Glad you’re both back.
Jeff Francoeur said, “He’ll look good in (Yankee) pinstripes in six years.”
God I can’t wait until Francoeur gets to feel the wrath of the NY media next season when he flops on his face. He thinks it’s so great up there because the Mets sucked when he arrived & their season was long over so there was zero pressure on him to perform. There were no expectations of him then, but next season when he’s hauling in 4-5 million after arbitration the media & fans won’t be forgiving. It will be even worse if the Mets are dumb enough to give him an extended contract this offseason.
In six years he could be celebrating his 3rd or 4th year out of baseball.
September 16th, 20098:33 pm
TnBrian got the quote from Bowman on twitter. So, I guess so.
September 16th, 20098:35 pm
TnBrian did Francoeur really say that?
According to Bowmen.
I know I was kind of disgusted…
What’s the news from Shamus?
September 16th, 20098:36 pm
Fo the record, I didn’t see the quote on Twitter…it’s also in the comments in his latest blog.
September 16th, 20098:37 pm
The 1st message was mistyped, in case you didnt notice.
September 16th, 20098:38 pm
Frenchie’s hitting .308 as a Mutt.
September 16th, 20098:39 pm
we gonna play tonight?
September 16th, 20098:40 pm
McFann – he commented on the last page about his friend.
White Blood Cells
Should I go to the Ted or simply head straight for the Cleremont Lounge?
Jeff Francouer is not a good baseball player
September 16th, 20098:41 pm
Glad he’s doing better, Shamus!
Why cant the FoxSportsSouth or PeachtreeTV have rain delay programming like the Mets? The Mets tv people are televising their broadcasters going out to NY bars and asking drunk patron sports related trivia for cash. I’d rather see bar patrons trying to win money………..than seeing “Spotlight: Brian McCann, Bobby Cox, Bobby Dews, or John Schuerholtz” for the 1000th time.
Maybe times are tough at the Atlanta tv stations.
September 16th, 20098:42 pm
tarp is coming off, scheduled first pitch is 9:05 p.m.
September 16th, 20098:44 pm
Does Francoeur understand the degree to which he’s building enmity among the Braves fans? I just want to punch the guy. Braves patiently waited two years for him to hit, let him get away with a two-game stint in the minors and…for this.
Gov Clinton Tyree
September 16th, 20098:45 pm
Frenchie can suck my left testicle.
My Peachtree TV channel is now Coxmedia, showing some shopping crap. Hope this changes at 9:05.
September 16th, 20098:46 pm
fastasballs…..you are underestimating what Francoeur is going to get awarded in salary arbitration with the Mets. He will easily get $7-8 mil. You have to remember that Francoeur got a raise of 4 times his 2008 salary during his first year of arbitration (even though he SUCKED A$$ in 2008).
Because Francoeur “rebounded” during his time with the Mets, how hard is it to imagine that he wont at least double his 2009 salary? Arbitrators factor in a players pre-arbitration years. Plus Francoeur’s agents will point out his 2007 Gold Glove and the assists he gets in right field.
When he gets off to a slow starting while pulling down $8 mil next year…..he’ll get a taste of the NY media.
September 16th, 20098:48 pm
My cup. Where’s my cup? O’brien, are you wearing my cup again?
September 16th, 20098:49 pm
Can’t wait to see how many fans are in the stands.
September 16th, 20098:50 pm
OK, thanks! I’ll go back and look for it…
One amazingly effortless, low-cost comment.
September 16th, 20098:51 pm
It’s funny Frenchy thinks Hanson will bolt for the big dollars of the NE…..he obviously has a short memory about himself turning down 2 multi-year contract offers from the Braves. We pay to keep our talent around. Notice I said talent.
Mixxo it’ll come back on.
Doc – bugger, I have run out of red wine and it is 1st pitch in 15 minutes, but I am 10 minutes from the nearest pub/liquor store
oh the pain of what to do, plus I have no food and that store is 5 minutes the other way
God, why do I chose to live at the end of the earth….
Solution….. pizza delivery and Sam Adams………… woo hoooooooooo
September 16th, 20098:52 pm
The Mets will offer the arbitration rule of 10% below present salary (the maximum reduction in arb rulings). If he doesn’t take that before the hearing, he will be non-tendered.
That’s GREAT news! I’m so happy to hear he’s doing better!
fielder is 0-1 so far……….I’m good!
September 16th, 20098:53 pm
HoCo Loco —
lol Mcfann, sorry, I’m doing about 6 things right here or I would go back and get the link for you
September 16th, 20098:54 pm
RHR (September 16th, 2009 2:49 pm): “It is amazing how a friendly word or a kind gesture can leave a lasting impression of a person. Requires very little effort and costs nothing…”
I’m guessing you read that in a book or something.
OK guys. Who stole all my uniforms?
September 16th, 20098:55 pm
Laroche’s comment about playing with nothing to lose was a tell he didn’t intend to tell…in my opinion.In the day The Braves thrived on pressure.They.played best when the chips were on the table.This team and those of resent years are/were just the opposite.Take meaning out of the equation and they’re heros.
Francoeur is an idiot
What a fool. It’ll be fun to crush him through the next few years.
September 16th, 20098:58 pm
Hey RHR here’s a quote for you.
”You can get more with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone”
What did Frenchy say?
September 16th, 20099:00 pm
Thanks for the update on Ernie Harwell!
I grew up in Detroit listening to Tiger Baseball with Ernie in the evening. The days before air conditioning was a norm in the home, sat out on the porch swing (trying to stay cool) listening on a transistor radio. I celebrated in the streets when the 68′ Tigers beat St. Louis (one of the most memorable series ever!).
Ernie was one of the best ever! Ernie, Skip & Pete are my all time favorites. Each provided great memories!
Thanks for the update – and for stirring up the memories! Good Times!
Francoeur is irrelevant.
By the way, he is complimenting Hanson with that statement.
Lew, good points at 7:26 p.m.
18 Wheels, I didn’t know about Alice In Chains coming out with a new one. How’d I miss that? Better question: How do you have AIC without Layne Staley? (But you said it sounds good, huh? To me, his voice was integral to the band, although having said that, Whale and Wasp was one of my favorite Alice songs, and it’s instrumental, so…. Jerry Cantrell’s still in the band, right?)
Oh, and speaking of instrumental and AIC, check out this dude. I have no idea who he is, but he’s a pretty amazing guitar player:
September 16th, 20099:01 pm
Let’s play some dang ball. Go Giants!! 4 back hopefully at the end of the night. We can do this!
September 16th, 20099:03 pm
Thank youuuu. Let’s play.
September 16th, 20099:04 pm
DOB – please let us know how the new Drivin’ n’ Cryin’ CD is. I was always partial to Honeysuckle Blue
September 16th, 20099:05 pm
Well, wouldn’t you be bitter to if you know you’ll probably be playing for a crap team for years to come like Frenchy?
I was reading a magazine earlier and it had a Heyward article in it. Chipper says this kid is much better than he was at 19/20 years old and he compared him to McGriff and thinks he’ll develope Howard type power. He, unlike Frenchy, seems to have mental toughness. Talking about regrouping after his injury and how to minimize bad stretches. Already sounds like a vet.
I think that you’re over simplifying the situation as the Braves have played well in some clutch series this year (against tough opponents). However, in theory – you are on the money. It does seem that when the pressure was on this season (i.e. sports media types announced that a Braves hot streak was forthcoming) that the team would subsequently slide for a week. Then, when it looks like they’re dead… they at least keep the playoffs conversation alive.
Just good enough to break hearts.
September 16th, 20099:07 pm
You wanna see the best guitar player in the world? His name is Andy Wood. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEc72vmCofk
September 16th, 20099:08 pm
Mixxo are you still stuck with the shopping channel? i am :/
September 16th, 20099:09 pm
Check out their Wiki page.
IMO, AIC was the band of the 90’s. I hope this next record brings them back. The new lead singer William Duvall is from Atlanta and evidently has some roots in some older punk bands. AND he sounds eerily similar to Layne Staley. The new single is tremendous and you can just feel that Cantrell influence. Jerry sand on most songs along with Layne but I imagine he carried a lot of weight and influence in the AIC sound.
Agree on Layne’s voice being integral, but Jerry did sing on a lot of tunes. Jar of Flies is up there among my best albums of all time.
No prob! I found it pretty quickly with the “find tool”. Very good news for sure!
September 16th, 20099:10 pm
The best guitar player ever would be Zac Brown when playing Devil Went Down To Georgia or Chicken Fried.
So is this Josh Thole prepping to be another thorn in my side, eh?
Go pick up a bottle of Goats Do Roam 2007. South African red….
September 16th, 20099:11 pm
I hate Cox cable, if the game is in a delay to start with good luck in getting the game back on …..
September 16th, 20099:12 pm
some kind of creepy, green flying insect just landed on my screen. perhaps in an attempt to blog. See how popular you guys are?
And my thanks to official scorekeeper and friend Jack Wilkinson who kindly came down to my row and waved away my new, um, friend.
September 16th, 20099:13 pm
AIC was the band of the 90’s
Eep. I love Alice in Chains (at least the old band line up), but best of the 90’s? Dangerous territory.
Best guitarist? There can be such a thing (i.e. only one) given the number of talented rock musicians over the past 50 years or so?
September 16th, 2009
Yeah man. This isn’t good.
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