12:27 pm September 16, 2009, by Carroll Rogers
"Chef" Tim Dix
September 16th, 20093:52 pm
Carroll, great piece on Ernie. You are so right, we’re extremely proud to call him ours. Baseball broadcasting royalty and you’d never know it.
September 16th, 20093:54 pm
No Chipper in the lineup posted again today:
1. McLouth CF
2. Prado 3B
3. Anderson LF
4. McCann C
5. Escobar SS
6. LaRoche 1B
7. Infante 2B
8. Church RF
9. Lowe P
September 16th, 20093:55 pm
check it out
“Seriously, if we called every team in baseball and literally gave them Derek Lowe, didn’t even request anything back, not a single team would take him.” – Brian
I agree that Lowe is not very tradable, but the hyperbole some are throwing out here is just ridiculous. Below are my list of teams that would take Derek Lowe if we didn’t request anything back:
There’s also a decent chance any other team outside of the Padres or Marlins would take him.
September 16th, 20093:57 pm
Thanks for lineup, Ms. Rogers.
Seriously, why does Anderson keep batting so high in the order with LaRoche so low? There’s absolutely no good reason for it.
Get 10.5 Million from Malik Zongo's Secret Account
September 16th, 20093:58 pm
Don’t worry about the Marlins with their lead in the win column…beating Cards again today. Still tied with the Braves in the loss column. Yea. We need to watch them…along with the Giants, Rockies and Cubs. Fun stuff.
Still have 6 games with the Phillies and 3 with the Braves…among others. Good team…especially with that payroll…less than $36million!
Maybe Fredi will come to our rescue…
Oh hey pee guy, I gotta tell ya…I’m not feelin’ the new name.
White Blood Cells
September 16th, 20093:59 pm
I’m with you Dude.
Female Journal of Medicine?
September 16th, 20094:00 pm
ARGGGGGGGGG….. I bat Garret 3rd because he’s a professional hitter! ARGGGGGGGGG….. Roachy is a great number 6 or 7 hitter….. ARGGGGGGGG!
RHR – the Michael Jackson article was HILARIOUS. Off to read the other one…Thanks.
September 16th, 20094:01 pm
Oh yeah, it kinda irritates me when GA bats third…he’s deprived BMac of some RBI this year.
September 16th, 20094:03 pm
Shutup! I’m the manager and know Garret is better suited for the 3rd spot than Roachy. ARGGGGGGGGG….. I’m campaigning for a Garret resigning because I like the way he goes about his business…. all professional-like. ARGGGGGGGGGGGG!!
September 16th, 20094:04 pm
Funny stuff –
September 16th, 20094:05 pm
Awesome, Kelly’s not playing again. We’re even facing a righty today. *sigh…*
September 16th, 20094:06 pm
Thanks for the DEADSPIN link; funniest thing I have ever read, especially the comments! Great stuff!
You are one cynical Pr!ck
September 16th, 20094:07 pm
Yeah I saw that little Phillie’s girl. That was pretty funny, as was the reactions of everyone around them
September 16th, 20094:08 pm
Sorry I misplaced my exclaimation point!
Yeah, it was sweet of the dad to not get mad. Great reaction by him.
September 16th, 20094:09 pm
Tommy Hanson is going to make this NL rookie of the year thing interesting. For most of the season, I figured J.A. Happ would have a great shot at it.
The following is in no way directed at Carroll Rogers: F J.A. Happ.
Hey, at least I’m not cursing Bobby Cox.
Tommy might be the best pitcher in this rotation. That may not be saying a lot as opposed to saying the best in baseball but I think he is.
Javy I think is the best all around athlete on the team but Tommy is the one true talent on the Braves next to Brian McCann.
And F Joe Mauer by the way. Don’t tell me he’s the best cather in the game. That’s a bunch of bulls***.
I’m feeling good today.
September 16th, 20094:10 pm
Daslied – I can’t pick which one I like more, The Jeter one or the mlb reacts to MJ’s death one. And they just put up some new ones..
September 16th, 20094:12 pm
I LOVE Jair’s quote in the MJ one lol. baseball players….its a good thing they can play baseball.
P. W. Hjort
September 16th, 20094:16 pm
RHR, the 3:32pm link is hilarious..
September 16th, 20094:17 pm
Well that’s pretty much assumed P.W. Hjort
Especially the comment about the Yanks-Jays “Roadhouse” reenactment as a tribute to Patrick Swayze!
Soph – you missed another shot-down singalong attempt last night. Thanks.
September 16th, 20094:20 pm
I guess Kelly should be in the lineup. I think he deserves more like 5 million next year.
September 16th, 20094:21 pm
I saw that jeffrey. You started 10 minutes too late. I gave up and went to bed when I saw I had two posts in a row. That’s usually a sign that everyone’s gone. Maybe, tonight?
September 16th, 20094:22 pm
A little harsh. Happ kept the Phillies alive while their original starters collapsed – Park, Myers, Moyer. In fact, if you throw in Hamels and his subpar year, Happ really was their only good starter for a few months. You can’t discount that. Hanson deserves the Award – he is finishing strong – no one is going to hold his first start against him – let’s see what happens – both of them are solid starters and will be pitching for years to come.
Cant we do something like what colorado did 2 years ago………21 out of 22 to sneak into the playoffs?
September 16th, 20094:23 pm
Troll harder, sh!thead.
September 16th, 20094:25 pm
Keep KJ on the bench even if Francouer is pitching.
September 16th, 20094:31 pm
I’m sorry, but I thought you had him @ 3.75 million in 2010. Were you serious?, and don’t give me the corporate matrix argument.
September 16th, 20094:34 pm
Hey, if the BRAVOS keep this up, they might exceed my 86 win prognostication. If they don’t, well….lets dream a little longer shall we? And on that note, here’s hoping JOHN MALONE and LIBERTY MEDIA see the wisdom of investing another 15 mill or so in a franchise to get the key players necessary to make them bona-fide WORLD SERIES contenders. After all, if they want to bail on their professional flyer into MLB, they need some reason to raise the price in the event they want to sell in two years or so. Besides, a true winner might grow on them. They all like success, especially MALONE.
September 16th, 20094:39 pm
they are Ws contenders right now. theseason is 162 games long.
Escobar for Supreme Court
September 16th, 20094:42 pm
Do you enjoy watching the braves lose? Do you enjoying b*tching about the braves more on blogs then seeing them win? KJ at under 4 million would get you fired as a GM in any club and you would not recover…Look at Steve Phillips. This is one of the strongest line ups we have fielded all year and if it was from the start like this we would be in first. The only way it gets stronger is Heyward in RF and the Diaz/Church combo moving to LF. With what we have its as good as its getting and we should be able to beat Muts.
If the Braves pull off a September miracle (neeeeigh), I would expect BC to pitch either Lowe or Vazquez in the first game. The third pitcher would probably Hudson (unless he flops or reinjures), due to freshness. Then JJ. Then KK.
If Hanson pitches the innings to get the Braves to the playoffs, it would be a very bad decision to extend him to the many extra innings necessary to get through the playoffs (see Cole Hamels this year after pitching waaaay too many innings last year).
September 16th, 20094:46 pm
Wha-a-a? And on the subject of LIBERTY, surely MALONE owns a bank in that conglomerate of his. What’s he doing with that TARP money anyway? Everyone else can cook their books. Why can’t he lend some to a worthy franchise.
RHR – Agree that both articles are fantastic. The JJ line and Uggla thing in the first one – the whole setup was great. And the Figgins part of the other one was awesome.
I think it will be Lowe Javy JJ Hanson Hudson. I agree with you that we cant over use Hanson cause it did tear up Hamels
September 16th, 20094:50 pm
Disagree, Nobody in the league throws 4 major league pitches with the ease Hansen does right now. Ask any scout, the kid has the confidence. If you watched last nights game, he threw maybe 3 pitches @ 94. His curve and slider were soooooo good, he didn’t need a fastball. And by the way, he is starting the Sweep game Sunday.
Braves Fan since 2006
September 16th, 20094:51 pm
Playoffs? What exactly is that?
September 16th, 20094:53 pm
Nobody is excited that I’m blogging here?
September 16th, 20094:54 pm
My guess at playoff rotation would be this:
September 16th, 20094:55 pm
Pete, re your 3:00, roger that. I’d give you props, if I had any left. But I don’t, because…
I’m giving every last mother-loving one I got to the guy who wrote the article referenced in RHR’s 3:18, LOL. End of story. I’m prop-less the rest of the day. RHR, thanks, that sucker made my day.
September 16th, 20094:58 pm
Btw, my guess on the offseason is that we keep all 6 pitchers, trade KJ for a relief pitcher with a similar salary, and resign LaRoche. Assuming Hudson signs a new deal and defers some money so that he only makes $10 mil next year, and LaRoache signs for around $10 mil annually, that would put the Braves payroll at $95 million, with essentially the same team that has been one of the top 3 in the NL in the 2nd half of 2009. The one MAJOR assumption I’m making here is that Heyward is starting in RF to begin the year.
You are correct sir.
September 16th, 20094:59 pm
Still talking payroll for 2010?
Chipper the coach
September 16th, 20095:00 pm
Bobby is going to retire and the end of the year, so will I was a player. I will however be coaching with the braves MLB club.
Rob from SC
September 16th, 20095:09 pm
I meant we need luck winning at the TED
September 16th, 20095:14 pm
forecast is bad for start, so i hear. could be in for a long one.
September 16th, 20095:18 pm
Get into the Mutts pen early, Staet Kawakami.
September 16th, 20095:19 pm
Get into the Mutts pen early, Start Kawakami.
September 16th, 20095:20 pm
The FJM Adrian Peterson and Jeter (the steroids one) articles were great as well. Not enough time in the day…
From out of Left Field
September 16th, 20095:25 pm
With the Braves pitching being so good..do you credit Roger McDowell..If so then what does that say of the transition of Mazzone to McDowell. If that is doing well..if McDowell can come from out AAA Las Vegas and replace a great pitching coach then why do some think that any manager taking over after Bobby leaves will cause the team to implode? They lost a great pitching coach and look at the staff today. Who’s to say that a new manager wouldnt make just as smooth a transition? Frank Wren still has a job to do and he isnt going to let this team fall apart just because its gotten a new manager should Bobby leave.
September 16th, 20095:29 pm
This is what this Blog has become after that reds series:
September 16th, 20095:33 pm
“You don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows”
McCann should not be battling clean up over LaRoche but that is Bobby in a nutshell. Mac struggles all summer and then has a few good games so you can bet Mac will bat 4th from now until Sept 30 even if he hits .140.
LaRoche is hotter still and his is MIA from the middle of the line up.
Bobby has got to go. I like the guy and what he has meant to the franchise is beyond measure (consider the Braves circa 1989) but he is Mr. Groundhog day if there ever was one.
He will ride his fixed style of mgt right into the ground rather than change.
Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried
September 16th, 20095:40 pm
That was pretty funny Doc…
I knew it was something along those lines or a dust ball rolling down an empty street.
which is, unfortunately, why we’ll NEVER make the playoffs as long as he is allowed to be manager.
September 16th, 20095:43 pm
I hope this isn’t one of those nights where they play two innings & then sit through a 2 hour rain delay.
September 16th, 20095:47 pm
Bet your bottom dollar that Cox would start Derek Lowe in the first playoff game.
September 16th, 20095:53 pm
Y’all moved me so much on the day of my friend’s accident that I couldn’t respond. The niceness of most of you folks is beyond words. I grasped for things to say, but nothing was worthy of what I’d received. I decided to respond on my return from the hospital. Well, I just returned.
Your prayers for Mike got the job done! The respirator was removed yesterday. He’s talking and joking, though still in lots of pain.
He’s quite a guy, and y’all are quite a bunch. Thank you all, SO much…
September 16th, 20095:58 pm
It has been pouring here in lovely almost-Vinings for an hour and a half – thunder, lightning, floods, famines, locusts… well, some of those, at least
September 16th, 20095:59 pm
September 16th, 2009
I’m on fire….Skip. Please don’t start Lowe in our first playoff tilt.
September 16th, 20096:01 pm
Shamus, you made us happy today.
September 16th, 20096:02 pm
JD – he would start Javy game 1 and Lowe game 2 and based on Lowe’s playoff experience I would do the same with JJ ready to takeover if Lowe sputters…
Steve from OH
September 16th, 20096:03 pm
jeffrey d., FJM (RIP) was (and still is) one of the best sports sites ever created. I encourage you to go to it and read every single article they’ve ever written. Linkage!: http://www.firejoemorgan.com
Random FJM article o’ the day!: http://www.firejoemorgan.com/2008/08/bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuce.html
September 16th, 20096:04 pm
Shamus – that is truly wonderful “real” news… we sometimes forget the real world as ee hash over baseball themes
September 16th, 20096:07 pm
This was my favorite FJM Deadspin quote of the day, from their relatively short goodbye (#2):
And as Steve Phillips might say: [Incomprehensible nonsense.]
September 16th, 20096:09 pm
FJM fans may also enjoy FSP. Here’s a taste.
September 16th, 20096:10 pm
Pwhjort – a mate sent me this today (apologies if everyone has seen it)… it carcked me up
September 16th, 20096:13 pm
Check this out… a nice story about a nice Philly fan… (not kidding!!)
wow… you know it is special/unusual if it makes news headlines like this.
September 16th, 20096:14 pm
Is Tommy Hanson awesome or what?
If we could somehow get into the playoffs, with the three-man staff we could roll out there, we could bat .230 and go all the way…
I see that the Tigers are honoring Ernie Harwehh tonight. He was an awful good announcer forever and a great guy too. in person. I got to talk to him many times when I was with Detroit early on. He will be missed no doubt. You know he was a Georgia boy who graduated from Emory, and don’t forget he was the only announcer ever to be traded for a player. Branch Rickey traded a player to the Atlanta Crackers to have them break his contract, he filled in for Red Barber who was sick.. Vaya con Dios Ernie!
September 16th, 20096:15 pm
Another random FJM article for yer viewing pleasure.
September 16th, 20096:17 pm
September 16th, 20096:20 pm
I love these little quotes from scouts over at BP:
“Braves left fielder Garret Anderson: “He’s had a solid career, but I can’t imagine anyone is going to give him a chance to be a regular next season. He’s reached that stage of his career where he gets exposed when he plays too much.”
•Braves right-hander Tommy Hanson: “Everyone knows this kid has great stuff but I don’t think people give him enough credit for knowing how to use it. He’s a really smart pitcher and he makes adjustments very quickly.”
Phillies reliever Brad Lidge: “If the Phillies are serious about trying to repeat as World Series champs, there is no way they can use him as the closer in the postseason. It’s too late in the season to think you’re going to straighten him out now.”
We are 4th in batting and are not going anywhere………..you think .230 would get us anywhere? I doubt it.
September 16th, 20096:23 pm
That was a really nice thing to say, Mike McDonald. Are you sure you’re not my dad writing with an alias? I appreciate it.
RHR, that’s a good point about how little time and effort it can take to be nice and how far it can go. I could stand to learn a lot from Ernie.
And speaking of special days, I also heard today is the day they’ll honor my esteemed colleague Hal McCoy in Cincinnati. I’ll have a toast to him before the week is out (or this night, depending on how bad the rain is!!!)
Not sure which way the braves are thinking as far as Javy is concerned, but I know he really likes it here and would prefer to stay. I think his value on the trade market will be sky high though.
September 16th, 20096:25 pm
We are 4th in batting and are not going anywhere
That’s disingenuous. Batting average doesn’t tell us much about anything so trying to correlate it with run scoring isn’t smart (and has been proven, btw). What would be better would be to say that we’re 8th in OPS, which is probably a better reason why we’re 7th in runs. Or that we have a slightly below-average .255(ish) team EqA, which explains our average-ish run scoring.
September 16th, 20096:27 pm
Steve from OH,
Im not saying BA tells you how good an offense is……….I was making a comment regarding Shamus tracker comment before. Nothing else.
September 16th, 20096:31 pm
What about Diaz why is he not in lineup?
Diaz BA: 10days: 313, 30days: 387, season: 320
Garrett BA: 10days: 200, 30days: 253, season: 275
Church BA: 10days: 200, 30days: 277, season: 274
must be really need left handers for this pitcher and flip flop them at lower end of lineup to deal with early relief pitcher.
1. Our starting pitching is 2nd in the NL in ERA.
2. Our team pitching is 3rd in the NL in ERA.
3. We now have one 9 inning complete game.
4. Our bullpen has 3 of the top 7 leaders in appearances.
5. Our batting average is better than all playoff contenders except Florida if you consider them a contender still.
How does that not translate to wins? BOBBY COX
I along with alot of other people checked out when Hanson was taken out of the game with 98 pitches, leading 1-0.
IF we got into the playoffs with a rotation of Vasquez, JJ, and Hanson, Bobby would screw it up anyway and find a way to make it a 5 man rotation still and get Kawakami in there.
He’d also start KJ for at least a game and can you imagine a World Series game when Greg Norton is our DH. You know that would happen.
I can’t take anymore of it.
September 16th, 20096:37 pm
No braves fans around anymore……….theyll get here before sunday, once we get back to 2.5 games by then.
I hope Bobby manages 10 more years and causes 50 loses each year. This board is so much fun when that happens.
September 16th, 20096:39 pm
Shamus–that’s awesome news! Glad to hear it!
Doc–my bad. Wasn’t really directing it at you, anyway. Just gave me a good prompt to start pontificating, LOL!
September 16th, 20096:45 pm
Well, bloggers, I have an HOA Board meeting tonight that promises to be a lively one. May not get to watch or blog tonight. GO BRAVES!
tybee island bob
September 16th, 20096:46 pm
what can you tell us carroll about the start time? I’m 15 mins. away, don’t want to head over unless or until a likley start time….thanks
61 year Braves Fan
Ernie Harwell, Bob Prince, Mel Allen, Red Barber, Russ Hodges, Ken Coleman, Byrum Saam (not sure of the spelling) . The great voices of baseball on radio. I will never forget them.
September 16th, 20096:47 pm
Over/Under on fans in the seats tonight, if they play, is 5,000. Go!
September 16th, 20096:50 pm
Just saw a huge bolt of lightning flash, just as the guys were getting ready to pull off the tarp. ….There seems to be a break in the rain, plenty of gray clouds behind left field. But they are taking the tarp off. At first I thought it was to dump the water off, but they haven’t stopped there.
September 16th, 20096:52 pm
Really glad to hear your friend is doing better
tybee island, haven’t heard a time announced. that’s a lot of pressure to put on a beat gal….ok just heard a crack of thunder. and they haven’t rolled the tarp up yet, it’s laying there in right field as they work on the infield dirt.
September 16th, 20096:55 pm
SNY here are interviewing JJ, great to see some attention for our Bravos in the big apple…
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