12:27 pm September 16, 2009, by Carroll Rogers
September 17th, 20094:34 pm
N8. I responded to you because you said we are two games back of the Fish in the loss column, when we aren’t.
This time thing is strange. It 5:34 here. You’re catching up!
Marc in FL
September 17th, 20094:39 pm
jim, this year’s MVP is Javy in my opinion. Hanson lived up the hype for the portion of the season he’s pitched and JJ had a better-than-expected sophomore year, but Javy came out with a lot of question marks and has really turned into our best overall pitcher this year. Without him breaking out this year this team would be 12+ games behind the Phils.
Escobar is about the only person in our lineup with any consistency at all this year, everyone else has been a big disappointment in 09′.
Baseball has been verry verry good to me...
September 17th, 20094:42 pm
Stop worrying about next year. Or at least until we are knocked out / we knock ourselves out…of the race THIS YEAR.
The fat lady is in the bullpen…but she may just have a sore back and will not answer the bell.
BELIEVE…stranger things have happened in the past (like…can you say winning 21 out of your last 22…Colorado)
BELIEVE…(and FAITH…but not in Bobby Cox, Chipper Jones, Greg Norton, Kelly Johnson and a few others…)
Win tonight to make up that 1/2 game with Rockies and get ready for the season to continue or be over after this weekend.
September 17th, 20094:44 pm
N8, 2:45 pm (or whenever) … “Make no mistake, the Braves could win all 17 games, and STILL need 3 teams to lose at a pace that they haven’t lost at in over a month. The six games against the Reds and Padres doomed this season.”
The only rational counter-argument to this is that the Braves lost at a pace that they hadn’t since the All Star break in those games. All you can really say is that the team that finishes strongest will (probably) win it. If the Rockies or Giants finishes strong, it will not matter what the Braves do. But, predicting that the Braves, Rockies, and Giants will win/lose according to their current season’s winning/losing percentage is fatuous.
N8, 2:45 pm (or whenever) … “The Braves road is damn near impossible, and thats even if we win all 17 games remaining.”
It would be very unlikely for the Braves to make the post-season. However, it is very unlikely that a team has a 13 game win streak to start the season. Yet, it has happened. It is very unlikely that a player pitches a perfect game. Yet, it has happened. Etc.
If the Braves win the next 17 (and I do not expect that they will either), they will finish with 94 wins. With parity in the NL over the last several years, that number of wins makes it highly likely that the Braves would make the post-season. Of course, San Francisco won over 100 back in the 2 division days and did not make the post-season.
Baseball may be the only event where past performance routinely fails to predict future performance. Just got to wait and see what happens.
September 17th, 20094:46 pm
Who is the Braves team MVP? On the whole we would have to give a slight nod to McCann, but he has had periods of inconsistency, has not hit lefties very well, and has not played stellar defense. A strong case could be made for Escobar. He has played good defense, hit well in the clutch, and has kept his average consistently between 290 and 310 for most of the year. Since the trade LaRoch would be a prime candidate, but he has only been with the team for 2 months. McLuth and Prado would be in the team picture, but not among the prime candidates. Hanson, JJ, and Javy should also get consideration along with Peter Moylan who has trudged out there every other game this year and kept us in the ball game. Notably, for the first ime since 1995, Chipper is not even in the conversation. He may be back to some semblance of his former self next year, but the team needs to find a new centerpiece.
September 17th, 20094:50 pm
Sorry, I seem to have posted my last comments earlier, but it never showed up on my screen. Sorry also about the typos. (McLouth, LaRoche)
September 17th, 20095:01 pm
Wow…5 o’clock? Where has the time gone?
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
September 17th, 20095:03 pm
The Rox may have ended the wild card race last night anyway.
Rob from SC AKA - Derek Lowe sucks
September 17th, 20095:04 pm
I don’t see how we can re-sign Gonzalez. He seems brittle. I would be very concerned with another elbow injury. Plus his slider is a homerun waiting to happen. Pitch from the stretch already.
September 17th, 20095:05 pm
Jim On the whole we would have to give a slight nod to McCann, but he has had periods of inconsistency, has not hit lefties very well, and has not played stellar defense.
Yeah, this year he’s been more inconsistent then he’s ever been…his defense started out much improved, but, especially since the All-Star Break, it’s fallen off. Last night he seemed to miss a lot of balls–wasn’t wearing his specs, though.
No idea what’s with him not hitting lefties.
I would consider Vazquez our MVP.
Random time stamps — what a concept. Brings a whole new sense of discontinuity to this thing. I know I am actually posting this at 1:07 Eastern. Wonder what it’ll say.
September 17th, 20095:11 pm
OK, so that last post of mine shot up near the top of the page. Oy…
September 17th, 20095:16 pm
“I think this is the second time this year that Gonzo has answered the call when he was not right … and blown the game. The last time, Gonzo ceased to be the “co-closer.” I agree with you that Gonzo is in Cox’s dog-house.”
Yeah, because no one else has taken the ball on this team when they clearly didn’t have it or weren’t “right”. I don’t know many relievers who get back over the phone and say Bobby hey i’m warming up and it doesn’t look good. Their manager calls on them and they go out there. Same thing with Medlen in Miami. It’s funny, Hanson who I know is young and a future Ace seems to be getting stronger as the season goes on but they are protecting his arm, yet the relievers who are clearly the tired ones are getting ran out there day in day out and doing what their manager asks and somehow this is their fault that they don’t have much left. I don’t get how this could be pissing bobby off, if anything it should be pissing the relievers who are called seemingly everyday when there are clearly other fresh arms in that pen.
September 17th, 20095:20 pm
September 17th, 2009
I would have to concur that Javy would be the MVP(itcher). If we were to make the playoffs, he would be my choice to start game 1, because he would be most likely to go 7+ innings and be able to come back strong for game 4 (if necessary) or game 5. Moylan will have over 80 appearances by the end of the year and his ability to keep us in as many games as he has may account for about as many team wins as any of the starters.
(I hope this re-post lands in the real sequence)
September 17th, 20095:25 pm
Piedmont Blues As they say McFann, it’s 5 o’clock somewhere …
That is true…
Rob from SC–
Oh yeah, they’re totally fixable. And I do believe he will work hard to fix them…
(What’s that? Paul Lentz says BMac will only get worse behind the plate? Oh well, never mind, then… )
September 17th, 20095:29 pm
Lew (September 17th, 2009 1:32 pm): “Yes, we realize they will never trade Kawakami, right?”
Kawakami will not be traded.
September 17th, 20095:31 pm
Why not. who cares about other Japanese players down the road. We need the best team possible next year
September 17th, 20095:32 pm
Is Kawakami hurting? His velocity seemed down last night and he was getting hit pretty hard. I know Bobby doesn’t want to clutter his duggout with a lot of callups, but Blanco could be useful for late inning pinch running assignments. Ross is faster than McCann and Bobby did not want to chance a pitcher getting hurt running the bases, but he is harldy “Lightning” Boldt. It is questionable if he could have scored from second on a hit to either CF or (especially) RF. If Lowe is unable to go in his next start (or needs to come out after one or two innings) and KK is hurting than it might be useful to have JoJo available for a situation like might have occurred last night if the game had gone into extra innings. The B & B boys (Buddy and Boone) are supposedly residing somewhere down there in the pen, but they seem to be waring a cloak of invisibility. At least with Jo Jo it would be very hard to render him invisible.
September 17th, 20095:33 pm
the first thing McCann needs to do is to get his eyes fixed
September 17th, 20095:40 pm
Tell It Like It Is (September 17th, 2009 9:51 am): “Of the seven guys on the Braves making in excess of $5 million, only Vazquez,Chipper and KK are worth the money from an entertainment perspective.”
What is the basis of this assertion?
September 17th, 20095:45 pm
I hate AT&T.
September 17th, 20096:02 pm
Is there something wrong with the blog time?
pryguy Is there something wrong with the blog time?
September 17th, 20096:06 pm
OH NO!! What is going on here! My day is so thrown off now.
September 17th, 20096:21 pm
David, why are you the only one to have someone like Carrol Rogers write for you? I never see Jeff Schultz or Mark Bradley have a fill in. What makes you so special?
September 17th, 20096:22 pm
I am just messing with you, David.
September 17th, 20096:32 pm
This is so totally annoying…
have we heard anything about McCann’s Eye condition?
September 17th, 20096:36 pm
Ugh…my post appeared on the last page.
nycbravesfan have we heard anything about McCann’s Eye condition?
September 17th, 20096:47 pm
What happened to my 5:14 pm post?
September 17th, 20096:50 pm
Matthew the organist. plays Obladi, Oblada, life goes on…. during Frenchy’s at bats…
This is frickin hilarious, Keith Hernandez and Ron Darling sounded a little annoyed with the organist, as they made a few remarks… now i know why? great stuff..
September 17th, 20096:55 pm
Dammit. Ok, blog – you win! Make it stop now!
Ernie (A great day to play 2...) Banks
September 17th, 20096:57 pm
Rockies have not won anything…yet. They have 15 games left. They could go 7 – 8 or 8 – 7…something like that. Which opens the door for a team that is verry, verry hot the last two weeks. I vote for the Braves to be that team. Cubs, Marlins and Giants will fold. My decision with that. So that leaves the Braves as the team most likely to sizzle down the stretch.
17 games left. What is the number we need to hit? 89,90,91,92,93? I say it needs to be 91. Red Sox will more than likely be over 96 +. (Damn Yankees…). Also, team with the highest run differential will more than likely be the WC winner. Look at AL East. Red Sox already at +127 (and they have 18 games left!)…Can the Braves pass the Rockies with this number? If they do…will they still have an outside chance of getting in! Why the hell not!!! Good stuff watching this race…
BELIEVE, PRAY AND BELIEVE
September 17th, 20096:59 pm
Soph Ok, blog – you win! Make it stop now!
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September 18th, 200911:13 am
So we’ve gone back in time and it’s Thursday again? What is this? A Tarantino movie?
September 18th, 20098:09 pm
Oh great, yank our great defensive SS for the worst guy on the team for that spot.
September 18th, 200910:04 pm
Best reason the Braves management don’t expect to be in the playoffs —
They pitch to Howard.
September 20th, 20099:15 am
Enter your comments here Is Bobby Cox an idiot? Once again he brings Soriano into the game in a non save situation and Soriano gets drilled. Now he’s worthless for tonight. The BS about keeping the pitchers in a routine is stupid. It’s pretty well documented that Soriano has a tired arm. Cox has to go before his senility gets worse.
September 20th, 20095:02 pm
September 20th, 200910:52 pm
Interesting weekend, and not in a good way, either. Atlanta should’ve won two of three–at least, and the game they won they nearly lost.
I’m not giving up, and I’m not looking to make excuses for anyone. This team still can make the playoffs; it has a winnable schedule down the stretch, and the Rockies have some difficult teams to face, including the Padres and Dodgers, not to mention the Cardinals–and the Brewers, who have some serious bombers and who can take a few pitches deep in that ballpark, humidor or not.
Yunel Escobar needs to play like a professional. He has rare talent and a rare attitude, with the latter not being good.
On a different note, if anyone who watched the Florida-Oklahoma game and/or yesterday’s Florida game thinks Tim Tebow’s the greatest player in college-football history, that individual officially knows nothing about football. Tebow is overrated–hugely overrated, and for that matter, so is Urban Meyer, though both have many strong points. Tebow isn’t even the best quarterback to come out of Florida in recent memory; Danny Wuerffel has him beaten by a mile, and Shane Matthews has him beaten by half a mile.
The Falcons won today, but they got outplayed.
Ray Lewis is the greatest defensive player in history, period. He also is the greatest leader in football history.
September 21st, 200910:29 am
“Cox has to go before his senility gets worse.”
Bobby Cox is NOT senile. Senile means that a person has lost mental faculties due to brain damage from aging. Cox, on the other hand, had zero mental faculties to lose from birth. It’s a miracle that he can pick his nose, soil his diaper, and breath , all at the same time
September 23rd, 20099:08 pm
Classic. Chipper injures back while tossing the bat to the dugout after a walk.
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