Sizzling rotation awaits Mets

(Staff writer Carroll Rogers is filling in for David O’Brien today.)

So if a tree falls in the woods…..and the Braves keep winning….well, heck, if you’re reading this blog, you still care.

So that’s a good thing. Even if it’s bizarre that the Mets and Phillies are coming to town this week and there’s just no way to bill it as some “huge series.”

I have to say, some of the more interesting things going on at the ballpark this homestand are off the field: Dan Akroyd singing “Take Me Out to the Ballgame” on Friday night, Matt Kuchar’s autograph session Friday, the minor league players and pitchers of the year being honored Friday, and Melanie Oudin throwing out the first pitch on Saturday night.

Oh wait, what about the purists? Well, judging from the way things have gone of late, there’s still some darn good starting pitching to be seen from the Braves. And maybe, at least, the Braves can make some teams ahead of them in the standings a little nervous, anyway. (Realistically, at 7 ½ games behind the Phillies in the East and six games behind the Rockies in the wild card with 19 games to play, there’s not much more to do.)

Maybe the Braves had best pretend this is like a Mets series of yore, like say ‘99, since we all know this team tends to play better against contenders, than say, Reds.

And hey, second-to-last homestand of the year. Better get out there while there’s still a chance. Odds are good, you’ll see a well-pitched game, starting tonight with Tommy Hanson.

Braves starters went 4-0 with a 2.32 ERA in six games on this recent trip to Houston and St. Louis. That includes Jair Jurrjens’ eight-inning masterpiece in a 1-0 win, Hanson’s eight-inning masterpiece in what should have been a 1-0 win, and Javier Vazquez kicking tail and taking names with seven shutout innings in Minute Maid to open the trip with a win and then close it with a complete-game effort at Busch Stadium.

That’d be Vazquez, Mr. National League player of the week.

   Bobby Cox has insinuated he might give Hanson a rest, maybe the next time through the order, so tonight would be a good time to take in a game if you want to see him.

   And we must mention, Jeff Francoeur will be back in the house tonight. And he’s swinging a hot bat, with three-hit games in three of his past four starts. His batting average is up to .275. Mind you, Chipper Jones’ is down to .269. Wouldn’t have seen that coming.

2010 Schedule

   The Braves just released a tentative 2010 schedule. Braves actually open the season at home on April 5 with the first of a three-game set against the Cubbies. Then they hit the road for a west coast trip, playing three games in San Francisco starting on April 9. Interleague play is mostly against the AL Central, with home series against the Royals (June 18-20) and Tigers (June 25-27) and road trips to play the Twins (June 11-13) and White Sox (June 22-24). The other matchup is the Tampa Bay Rays who come to Turner Field June 15-17. The Braves close 2010 with a three-game series at home against the Phillies (Oct. 1-3). I’ll see if our guys can get the full schedule up online at some point. 

Re-visiting the old maple bat issue

   It’s been a while since we’ve talking about that, hasn’t it? It dawned on me recently that, at least anecdotally, it seems we haven’t seen as many broken bats this year, or flying shards of maple heading into the stands or at a third baseman’s eye or something.

   I had Jimmie Lee Solomon on the phone yesterday for another story I’m working on. He’s the Executive Vice President of Baseball Operations for Major League Baseball and he works closely with baseball’s new Safety and Healthy Advisory Committee. I asked him about maple bats, given the committee’s charge to study it and decide if change is needed.

   He said they’re still studying the bats, doing analysis, taking data, but yes they see the numbers down this year too, and he thinks it’s because maple bat companies are making an effort to put out higher quality bats.

   “Bat breakage is down,” Solomon said. “I think we’re getting better quality wood, manufacturers are focusing on their drying techniques and making sure they stay uniform. I think the grain issue, making sure there’s uniform grain so you don’t get the inferior pieces of wood, and that has caused the number to drop. We want it not to be an issue at all. We’re still studying it.”

   Of course it’s in the maple bat companies’ best interests to see this issue resolved. Maybe this will be one of those deals where capitalism kind of solves its own problem? Well, I guess capitalism isn’t the right word, if we’re talking products in danger of being outlawed, but you know what I mean.

   “”They’ve been great working with us on this,” Solomon said of the maple bat producers. “They’ve addressed every issue and concern that we’ve had, and they have been vigilant in making sure we get the best quality wood so we don’t have this issue because it’s become a safety issue.”

   And finally, this extremely important nugget: Gotta love what I just heard Clint Sammons admit to on a “Know Your Braves” video. He watches Project Runway! Me too!

   I’m doubting he was quite as concerned as me that the great-looking Logan didn’t get eliminated last week, but hey, he probably enjoys watching Heidi Klum, and anyway, I love that he can admit to enjoying the show.

More from the ballpark in a while.

671 comments Add your comment

CB

September 15th, 2009
1:32 pm

chin music

September 15th, 2009
1:34 pm

hopefully the rain holds off tonight and we can see new frenchy looking like old frenchy against the new dealer.

McFann :Ô:

September 15th, 2009
1:37 pm

Thanks for the new Blog, Ms. Rogers.

bravesgrl4life

Mine is a Sunday Red–decided to go with that one because the “dirtiness” wouldn’t really show up. Since I wear it everyday, it wouldn’t take long to long to start showing. (My white hat can attest to that.) :P

McFann :Ô:

September 15th, 2009
1:39 pm

BTW, I just found out: The Braves will play the Twins in Minnesota next year.

Oh “yippee”…I can’t wait. :roll:

McFann :Ô:

September 15th, 2009
1:40 pm

Shoot…messed up the italics…

RC

September 15th, 2009
1:42 pm

While 7.5 behind the Phillies and 5 behind the Rockies, it’s much more informative to talk about how the Braves compare to other teams in the loss column. Because while you can always win your next game, you can’t un-lose a game. And since every team will play at least 162 (unless they clinch without it)….

Braves have:

8 losses more than Philly
5 losses more than Colorado
2 losses more than San Francisco
0 losses more than Florida

So really, over the next couple of weeks the Braves just have to lose 5 less than Colorado and 2 less than San Francisco to force some sort of playoff. Given, it’s no guarantee that Colorado loses 5 games by the end of the season, but at least there is still a chance!

bravesgrl4life

September 15th, 2009
1:43 pm

McFann – you’ve got a point there, kiddo. Of course, since I work 5 out of 7 days, I wouldn’t be able to wear it EVERY day, but I’m thinking red ’cause it’s one of my favorite colors.

Is it a big deal that the Braves are playing the Twins in MN next year?

N8

September 15th, 2009
1:50 pm

“Is it a big deal that the Braves are playing the Twins in MN next year?”

It is to me. That’s the closest they’ll come to me. My wifes dad lives in Colorado, and other than this year, the last few years the Braves have been there have been during the school year. Might actually get to take my boys to a Braves game before they’re old enough to pay for the trip. LOL!

bulldog bubba

September 15th, 2009
1:52 pm

Did the Braves add anymore of the AAA team now that their season is over.We might could use a couple of extra infielders to give Chipper and Escobar a longer break.

Tomahawkya

September 15th, 2009
1:54 pm

Anyone know if Chipper is going to play?

Don’t want to jinx, but a sweep would give me a little more confidence. When you start talking in terms of having a hot team (8 straight something they haven’t been able to string together all year) in shouting distance, maybe the teams in front start feeling some pressure.

bravesgrl4life

September 15th, 2009
1:55 pm

Cool, N8. Just wondering why it’s a big deal for McFann.

Daslied

September 15th, 2009
1:57 pm

I’m guessing the Mauer/McCann “battle” is what please McFann?

Daslied

September 15th, 2009
1:57 pm

Crap – “pleases”.

Tomahawkya

September 15th, 2009
2:00 pm

My In-laws live in Winona, MN. My father In-law is a big Twins fan. We were talking about going up to see the new stadium and taking him to a game next year. Might have to try a finagle the Braves series. Good to know!

The Abs Man

September 15th, 2009
2:02 pm

All this other stuff secondary.
Bottom-line fact: If BrainDead Bobby stays (2010) Braves get nada.

His mistakes—all on him—throughout the season (far exceeding his productive tactical moves late in games) have cost the Braves severely.
If BrainDead stays, Braves go nowhere.
Media may like him personally. Perhaps he’s a sweet ol’ man with admirable old-school baseball values.
But a positive mover and shaker as game-technician, he’s a 99-Cents item in the bottom of the basket.

Tomahawkya

September 15th, 2009
2:06 pm

Yeah…I’m ready for a change of direction/attitude too. But it is what it is now. Might as well enjoy what Braves baseball we have left (which might be the last we see of ol’ Bobby) while there’s still a faint possibility of sneaking in.

pryguy

September 15th, 2009
2:09 pm

Thanks for the blog CR. Good stuff as always… a 2 of 3 against the Mets and a sweep of Philly could make it more interesting, eh? Not giving up all hope just yet…

bruce

September 15th, 2009
2:09 pm

How about raise the mound and go with aluminum bats?

Tomahawkya

September 15th, 2009
2:12 pm

Hey…whatever it takes :)

Anders

September 15th, 2009
2:15 pm

So Anders is glad they got Francoeur, loathes for Hudson, and is pining for McCann? Sounds like he really is a Braves fan. Come on, bud, just buy a hat with an “A” on it already. (Thrillhouse from the last blog)

“loathes for Hudson”? How about buying a dictionary! {:

BTW- You skipped LaRoche.

Anders

September 15th, 2009
2:17 pm

Hey Carroll – Any truth to the rumor that Frenchy is gonna see if he can help Chipper with “his” swing while he’s in town? He-he.

rammerjammer

September 15th, 2009
2:23 pm

Anders, you’re a numbletard but your 2:17 was hilarious.

McFann :Ô:

September 15th, 2009
2:27 pm

bravesgrl4life

Yeah, the red ones are good…they don’t look as orange in person!

Is it a big deal that the Braves are playing the Twins in MN next year?

Yeah, yuck! It’ll be like, 3 days of hearing, “AL MVP Joe Mauer this…AL MVP Joe Mauer that…” Belck! :roll: It’s bad enough when they play the Cardinals with Big Albert…

Daslied I’m guessing the Mauer/McCann “battle” is what [pleases] McFann?

“Pleases?” Hardly…

TnBrian

September 15th, 2009
2:29 pm

Send Kawakami and KJ to Texas this offseason for Cruz.

pinkygonzales

September 15th, 2009
2:30 pm

Fellow braves fan,

I have started a new sports blog covering all sports called a casual fan… acasualfan.com

i’m just starting out, so I will be eternally grateful to anyone who takes a look.

again, acasualfan.com.

thanks a lot.

DAP

September 15th, 2009
2:30 pm

Send Kawakami and KJ to Texas this offseason for Cruz.

are you kidding me?

Couch Tater

September 15th, 2009
2:32 pm

Might actually get to take my boys to a Braves game before they’re old enough to pay for the trip

That’s great N8, then the little N8’s can talk about seeing our Hall of Fame manager for the rest of your life. heh, heh…

Brian

September 15th, 2009
2:33 pm

TNBrian, that would be extraordinarily nice, but (probably for the same reason) Texas most certainly would not do that, lol. Young, power hitting outfielder not making much money for a 30-something 4th starter and a second baseman they don’t need? (Ever heard of Ian Kinsler?)

Bill

September 15th, 2009
2:40 pm

Well lets see what team shows up for this series. The team that got swept by Cinn or the team that just beat up on the Cards. Would love to see Heyward called up to finish out the season but understand the money issues (down the road) so it will not happen. If I was GM I would do it just to make sure he is ready for this level. Hopefully Cox will retire so we can get some new blood at the top. If not, then expect another boring-could-have-been year in 2010. At times this season, this team is just as solid as any team in the West and is capable of shutting down Philly during a good series. The last couple of years we did not really have the players but this year we did but thanks to Cox we will end up about 5-7 games out of the running. No doubt in my mind that poor managing cost us at least 10 games, especially early in the season.

Daslied

September 15th, 2009
2:42 pm

I’m not totally sold on Cruz. First thing, he’s 29, so he’s not that young. As a RH hitter, his OPS is .240 LOWER against lefties (.964 vs .724). Weird! His OPS away from Arlington, while still good at .816, is .155 lower. His OPS in the cleanup position isn’t much better than McCann’s, though in less PA (124 total).

He might be fine, but we can afford a mediocre KK more than we can afford a mediocre “slugger/answer to our problems”.

bravesgrl4life

September 15th, 2009
2:42 pm

McFann, didn’t think about that one, but you are right.

Daslied

September 15th, 2009
2:43 pm

Also, Nelson’s defense ain’t so hot. Lose a Loaf, gain a Loaf. :)

McFann :Ô:

September 15th, 2009
2:47 pm

bravesgrl4life

Oh yeah, I bet it’s gonna be bad. At least they’ll be one the road, though–that way there’s less of a chance that they’ll be on PTV with Chip…I cann just hear him gushing over Joseph…yuck!

Daslied

September 15th, 2009
2:49 pm

Whoa – I take it back about Cruz’ defense. It’s pretty good, actually.

P. W. Hjort

September 15th, 2009
2:51 pm

Carrol, I love this line: So if a tree falls in the woods…..and the Braves keep winning….well, heck, if you’re reading this blog, you still care.

Great blog, as always.

bravesgrl4life

September 15th, 2009
2:56 pm

CR – some of us do still care. We’ll be caring on the very last day when the boys are cleaning out the lockers, be it after the WS or after regular season’s last game. That, my friend, is love for the Braves. Those who have bailed should be ashamed to call themselves fans. Hey, at least we haven’t gone through as long a drought as a certain Windy City team, right? And look at their fans – they b*tch and moan, but they hang in there with them. (My sis-in-law lives in Chicago and is a Cubs fan, so I know).

nycbravesfan

September 15th, 2009
3:01 pm

RC
September 15th, 2009
1:42 pm

good post! lose all this wishy-washy opinionated bullcrapola that CR propels onto the blog. fact is, braves aint out of it till the fat lady sings meaning magic number becomes magical and erases the braves. Is it going to happen? doubt it!. However, when I bring up the blog i don’t wanna read about autograph sessions, ghost busters, and definitely not project runway! Sorry i tried to make is constructive!

Rob from SC

September 15th, 2009
3:10 pm

Brian Jordan said Heyward would be called up after the playoffs. I guess he doesn’t know anything

Jeff R

September 15th, 2009
3:13 pm

Francouer is hitting better with the Mets – good for him; I mean that sincerely. But he wasn’t hitting in Atlanta, and for a lot of reasons, and I doubt he would do so.

I wish I could be at Turner Field tonight to watch Hanson hurl. Note to Bobby: let Hanson pitch the ninth if he’s shutting out the Mets and the score is close.

Jeff R

September 15th, 2009
3:16 pm

I see that Hampton is out in 2010 because of shoulder surgery. Maybe Mike should hang ‘em up?

Thanagar

September 15th, 2009
3:17 pm

Cox has “insinuated” that he might sit one of his three best pitchers even though the Braves are still mathematically alive? Sounds like he’s given up. How did he word this insinuation anyway?

bravesgrl4life

September 15th, 2009
3:21 pm

Jeff R – I think you are right, my friend. He’s missed most of what now? 4 seasons? If he hasn’t seen the light, he must need stronger contacts.

Rob from SC

September 15th, 2009
3:22 pm

The Braves should call up Brandon Jones and Luis Valdez. B. Jones had a pretty good second half

Rodney Derrick

September 15th, 2009
3:22 pm

Welcome back again Carroll. Your football team is now .500, and all the grad students had their big camp out this past weekend. My interest in this Braves season is down as prime issue now is next year. So, in honor of the 150th anniversary of the publication of Darwin’s “The Origin of Species” and hopefully the opportunity to see the new film about him with Paul Bettany and Jennifer Connelly, I have scheduled a week of scuba diving in the Galapagos in November and a week of diving in the Bahamas in October to get in shape for the advanced diving in the Gs. Have fun, denizens!

AustinBrave

September 15th, 2009
3:29 pm

I think we need two power hitters next year. How about Aaron Hill and Adrian Gonzales. What do ya’ll think it would take? What a line up that would be.

McFann :Ô:

September 15th, 2009
3:32 pm

bravesgrl4life If he hasn’t seen the light, he must need stronger contacts.

Which reminds me–this has nothing to do with Hampton–I had a dream last night where BMac decided to go ahead and have his eye surgery now…let me just say the dream didn’t end very good…

Yeah, it starts…the off-season is coming, after all. 8O

fastasballs

September 15th, 2009
3:41 pm

Hanson may or may not be skipped next time around. I’d be willing to bet that if the Braves go 4-1 or 5-0 in their next five games he will make his start.

If the Braves can’t gain 2-3 games in the standings over the next five I’d be all for Hanson & JJ being shut down for the rest of the season.

Huddy's Ligament

September 15th, 2009
3:46 pm

This one’s on Booby.
Braves had/have enough starting pitching to make the post-season and make some waves once there.
True, this team needs one more bat, but as constructed is a playoff caliber team. Aren’t we as good as the Rockies who jettisoned one of their best bats (Holliday)? Surely.
I will not blame the whole deal about not being able to beat inferior teams on Booby, but I do blame the pitching substitutions on him, which have cost us at least 10 games.
Wearing out the bullpen and bringing in set-up men and closers in blowout games IS his fault – and the results (Moylan excluded), speak for themselves.
Keeping Frenchy, KJ and Schaefer in the lineup until they were no longer available is his fault, too.
I’d say his poor in-game decisions cost the team at least 10 wins if not more.
Letting Lowe stay in to get shelled; putting Medlen in three days in row; pulling Hanson when he was pitching a shutout – that’s three games right there off the top of my head.
Oh yeah, and I almost forgot Norton!

abwright

September 15th, 2009
3:46 pm

RC, 1:42 pm … “While 7.5 behind the Phillies ….
Braves have:
8 losses more than Philly
5 losses more than Colorado
…, but at least there is still a chance!

I’m assuming that CR is “throwing in the towel” in the blog as a reverse jinx to ensure that the Braves go on a 20 game win streak (4 down, 16 to go).

Braves have a chance to set the Phils with three more losses this week. And, Braves can root for Florida to set the Phils with six more losses in their head to head games.

Even though it is a daunting and extremely improbable task, it is not (yet) completely hopeless. If Monday rolls around and the Braves have gone on an 0-6 tear, then, the towel can be hurled. But, I would at least wait til after the Phillies series to concede the season.

TnBrian

September 15th, 2009
3:48 pm

Some can say forget about what I say, but I say forget about Adrian Gonzalez. First of all, SD would more than likely want one of Hanson/Heyward/Freeman, maybe two of those guys, plus more. He’s cheap,cheap,cheap for a slugger who plays very good D at 1st. Oh, and SD has a GM named Towers– remember him? A rebuilding team like SD will want prospects, and a lot of them for their best player.

Not only is Cruz much more of a possibility, but I can’t imagine he’d take one of the untouchables to get. Vazquez alone and maybe a lower prospect might do it. Kawa. and KJ was a stretch, I agree, but don’t underestimate KK’s value seeing as there don’t appear to be many FA pitcher’s this offseason and with good run support, KK could be a 15 game winner. I’m just sayin…

Train Wreck Bystander

September 15th, 2009
3:49 pm

Still hanging in there, but if the Braves don’t go 5-1 or 6-0 this week, I’ll officially give it up for the year.

BTW, 2 “y”s in Aykroyd.

bravesgrl4life

September 15th, 2009
3:52 pm

Well said, abwright.

McFann, lets hope your dream doesn’t come true. Now, if you were to dream that he has the surgery, it goes excellently. Then, B-Mac comes back next year and has a .400 BA and thows out every attempted steal. Now, that would be a good dream :)

Anders

September 15th, 2009
3:52 pm

I wish I could be at Turner Field tonight to watch Hanson hurl. (JeffR)

Me too. Of course I don’t think we’re using “hurl” in the same context. {:

RC

September 15th, 2009
4:00 pm

“Still hanging in there, but if the Braves don’t go 5-1 or 6-0 this week, I’ll officially give it up for the year.”

Comeon, everyone can give it a couple more weeks! It’s not like you get bonus points for giving up before it’s official, right?

McFann :Ô:

September 15th, 2009
4:06 pm

bravesgrl4life lets hope your dream doesn’t come true.

Oh, I am, I am! Believe me…

Now, if you were to dream that he has the surgery, it goes excellently. Then, B-Mac comes back next year and has a .400 BA and thows out every attempted steal. Now, that would be a good dream

Sure would be! If I could control my dreams like Heath, I definitely play that one every night! :)

You all are Cox apologists

September 15th, 2009
4:07 pm

Braves: 19 games left Rockies: 17 games left

13 against the Mets and Nationals, two of the worst teams in baseball

6 games left against the Phillies and Marlins. If we go 14-5 and the Rockies go 6-11, we’re in, assuming we jump the Marlins and Giants also.

The Braves are still “mathematically” in contention, however, I wonder what IDIOTIC MOVE COX WILL MAKE to undermine their chances AGAIN.

For christ sakes Cox, have the guys PLAY WITH FIRE AND PASSION the rest of the season. GEEEEEEESH!

Kelly Johnson Fan Club

September 15th, 2009
4:15 pm

I think we need two power hitters next year. How about Aaron Hill and Adrian Gonzales. What do ya’ll think it would take? What a line up that would be.

Adrian Gonzalez probably won’t be traded and would command a huge return if he were to be. Though I’d love to have him, I don’t see it. Aaron Hill, on the other hand, is overrated. He has a career .767 OPS and horrible walk rate whereas Kelly Johnson has a .778 career OPS and Prado has a .782 OPS. He’s got career year written all over him.

I do think the Braves need a bat. Maybe two. But Heyward is probably one of them. I’d go with Chipper at 1st, KJ at 2nd, Escobar at SS, Prado at 3rd, McCann at C, McLouth in Center, Heyward in Right, and try to sign Holliday to play Left.

timthebrave

September 15th, 2009
4:18 pm

I have tickets for tonight. Does it look like they are going to play some ball tonight?

BT

September 15th, 2009
4:19 pm

Shocker: Mike Hampton out for 2010 after surgery.

Kelly Johnson Fan Club

September 15th, 2009
4:22 pm

timthebrave -
I think they’ll be able to get the game in.

ncscoots

September 15th, 2009
4:24 pm

It’s not like you get bonus points for giving up before it’s official, right?

Correct-a-mundo. But do you know how long it’s been since that was a prevailing sentiment in this forum? Couple of years, at least. We’ve been overridden with those who feel a few rants about what’s wrong shows off their “knowledge”, because they’ve totally forgotten the smell of the grass and the taste of the beer. Sad for them, and worse for the rest of us, who have had to endure their jerkish-nutbag numbletard selves.

Good riddance to them, and page hits be damned. Run the table, Braves, and spit on them when you go by, I say.

Steve from OH

September 15th, 2009
4:26 pm

Nelson Cruz…is an enigma to me. For one thing, his stats are great. .390(ish) wOBA, good defense, peripherals are solid…but his career splits just scare me. He doesn’t hit lefties well at all, which doesn’t worry me too much, but his splits away from Texas concern me. I’d be thrilled to have him, but I’d be very judicious about what I offered for him.

And it’s weird that his batting average and OBP are so low away from Texas…which, theoretically, shouldn’t effect those particular stats (his SLG is down to .433 too, fwiw). Like I said, confusing. Only a sample of 540 PA though, so could simply be due to dumb luck and sampling variation. If I had to guess, that’s what I’d probably say. Still, like I said, he’d be a great addition, but I’m not sure if I’d trade JV and a prospect to get him. Plus, he’s already at 29, probably right around his peak age-wise, so he’s not going to improve appreciably in theory.

timthebrave

September 15th, 2009
4:28 pm

Me and the braves need to both turn our luck around. I started season 5-0 and have gone 1-6 since. That is my inconsistent luck mixed with inconsistent play = .500 baseball. It wasn’t over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor…..Go Braves. 20 GAME winning streak

Facts Please

September 15th, 2009
4:28 pm

You know, I stopped caring about the Braves two years ago. I realized then that Bobby Cox as long as he manages will never again do right by this team. Why, because hes a players manager instead of a team manager. This hurts the team. All these players who went through terrible slumps and he sits on the bench letting our starter work their hearts out for nothing.

Now this offseason I see the braves trading Vazquez because hes the best. Yes he pitched well this year, because he was happy, he was comfortable. A rotation of Hudson, Jurrjens, Vazques, Hanson and KK next year would be killer. Yes I said KK because Lowe is all hype and not worth the money. Is is as much a ace as I am. This however wont happen because Wren will let Hudsons option go, trade Vazquez and we will once again end up with two good pitchers and three ok pitchers. Its never a lets keep whats good and fix whats broken.

Now until they release the rest of the 90’s and that would be Cox and Chipper and get Freddy Gonzalez to run this club, I will not spend another penny. I am tired of the over the age players who wont let it go. Ok I just bet we resign Smoltz and Glavine next year to complement Hanson and Jurrjens. Thats if they dont trade him too. Im just sick of the bull that the braves have had to indure. Im sorry but if keeping one of the best starting rotations in tact and adding a couple of real hitters is to much for them, well then its to much to expect me to endure the traffic, heat and rude fans and vendors to attend the games. Not to mention that 7.50 hotdog price and 6.50 for a coke.

Im outa here.

Steve from OH

September 15th, 2009
4:28 pm

Ah, and then I see it…a .250 BABIP away from Texas. Probably not a lot of substance to a home/away split of that magnitude. A .260 BABIP against lefties, but this is less indicative of luck as it could just be a further indicator of an inability to hit lefties. But I digress…

Anders

September 15th, 2009
4:29 pm

Sorry Kelly Johnson Fan Club – Holiday ain’t leaving the Redbird’s after this season. Even to play for St. Bobby. Where would you rather hit? With Pujols or a rapidly aging Chipper?

Plus, baseball rules in St. Louis – not so much in Atlanta.

Random

September 15th, 2009
4:29 pm

rammerjammer (September 15th, 2009 10:41 am): “What about Kawakami as closer? His first inning stats illustrate what we all know…he starts out well but is gassed by the fifth.”

Nope.

At least, I don’t know that.

In fact, I did a pretty indepth analysis of his Apr and May performances a couple of months ago and found that he pitched better the second time through a line-up than the first time through. And I think that we all can agree that he’s gotten better since Apr/May.

(That was just an observation, and not meant to be construed as an attempted refutation of your main thesis.)

Plus, his stamina has been incresing — he averaged nearly six and a third IPs over his six August starts.

“Channel his mental toughness into the 8th/9th inning and you just might have your guy.”

Imo, Kawakami’s got too many quality pitches to be confined to the bullpen and limited to maybe 80 innings a season. He’s got starter stuff. (I’d rather see Lowe as closer.)

“His late and close stats, albeit a very small sample, back that up.”

Interesting. Let’s see them. What’s your source?

Steve from OH

September 15th, 2009
4:31 pm

You know, I stopped caring about the Braves two years ago.

I find it odd that you are still here if that’s true.

Yes I said KK because Lowe is all hype and not worth the money. Is is as much a ace as I am.

Facts, please.

Ebenezer Snerdberg

September 15th, 2009
4:31 pm

Did Hampton ever have a day job? He is testament to how stupid front offices can be! Who’ll be the next idiot to pay him millions to watch the game!

GboroBravo

September 15th, 2009
4:32 pm

Here is the lineup from Bowmans blog

McLouth 8

Prado 4

Diaz 9

McCann 2

Escobar 6

Anderson 7

LaRoche 3

Infante 4

Hanson 1

Ebenezer Snerdberg

September 15th, 2009
4:34 pm

C-Aruh,thanx for the new blog.
It was on the old blog,but since ths is new……

FIRE BOBBY COX!

wjones

September 15th, 2009
4:34 pm

“Sad for them, and worse for the rest of us, who have had to endure their jerkish-nutbag numbletard selves.

Good riddance to them, and page hits be damned. Run the table, Braves, and spit on them when you go by, I say.”

Well said! I especially loathe the ones who, in the middle of a game, say something along the lines of “if they blow this game I’m through with them forever”. Then a couple of days later they are back, being negative again. Don’t say it if you don’t mean it.

Ebenezer Snerdberg

September 15th, 2009
4:37 pm

GboroBravo:

Would that be Prado@ 5?

GboroBravo

September 15th, 2009
4:38 pm

Dont know just copy and pasted from his blog Ebenezer.

Random

September 15th, 2009
4:38 pm

TnBrian (September 15th, 2009 2:29 pm): “Send Kawakami and KJ to Texas this offseason for Cruz.”

Kawakami will not be traded.

;-)

EL

September 15th, 2009
4:41 pm

I’m not even sure if this game will be even played tonight

Ebenezer Snerdberg

September 15th, 2009
4:44 pm

ncscoots

September 15th, 2009
4:44 pm

Did Hampton ever have a day job?

Seven years, 1997-2004 (pre-injuries), 60% winning percentage, 111 wins, 30+ starts every year, ERA around 4 (including two horrendous years in Colorado). So, yeah, kinda.

What he is a “testament” to is the fact that pitchers are a crap shoot, no matter how good their track record, and that GMs will give a good lefty every opportunity. Guys such as you make it sound as if the guy were a bum from Day 1, and every GM who hired him were a fool. Not quite.

RC

September 15th, 2009
4:48 pm

“You know, I stopped caring about the Braves two years ago.” – Facts Please

Says the guy who took time out of his day at 4:28 on a Tuesday afternoon to log into an Atlanta Braves blog and write 3 lengthy paragraphs about all that’s wrong with the team. Geez man, how much time do you spend on the things you DO care about?

wjones

September 15th, 2009
4:52 pm

Wow! Bobby is a genius. Two second basemen! And no third baseman! He’s just daring Wright and Frenchy to hit the ball down the third base line! I betcha they will psyche themselves out trying! And won’t we be awesome on the DP tonight!

Tiger Woods

September 15th, 2009
4:53 pm

That ladies and gents is a weird line up. Bobby is getting dumber by the day.

Ebenezer Snerdberg

September 15th, 2009
4:53 pm

Okay,

Just the last two. One of the very few screw-ups Big John made! But,you are quite correct. As Don Sutton I think it was put it; left-handed,warm and breathing,got a job!

And I don’t know about other ‘guys like me’, but I’ve thought he was a bum from the gitgo. But, with Jason Marquis around,he’ll never make #1 on my JERK List!

ncscoots

September 15th, 2009
4:54 pm

I especially loathe the ones who, in the middle of a game, say something along the lines of “if they blow this game I’m through with them forever”.

My personal “favorites” were the second-inning “Ballgame!” bafoons, and the panic-stricken Cassandras who wailed and gnashed the moment the Braves fell behind or lost a lead, LOL. Pretty much why I gave up on the in-game blogs.

BossLady

September 15th, 2009
4:56 pm

I’ll be at Turner Field Saturday regardless of how this week goes. The game’s atmosphere, the mlb players, smell of grass, singing take
me out the ball game, beer, hot dogs, nachos, ah man that’s a good life.

We went to the old Atlanta stadium when the Braves lost all the time
but we like to see our favorite players. As fans we have had many, many great years of baseball that some towns have never witnesses.

GO BRAVES!!!!!!!GO BRAVES!!!!!!!

AustinBrave

September 15th, 2009
4:56 pm

San Diego has already stated that they may trade Adrian Gonzales for the right pieces. Adrian for Freeman, Medlen, Schafer. I would do it in a minute. We need a slugger at least a 30 home run man with over 100 rbi’s. I don’t think Heyward will hit any more than 15 hmr’s in his first year. If we would have had this this year we would be in the playoffs.

DAP

September 15th, 2009
5:00 pm

austinbraveHow about Aaron Hill and Adrian Gonzales. What do ya’ll think it would take?

it would probably start with hanson, jurjens, mccann and escobar, which kind of eliminates the benefit of having hill and gonzalez.

wjones

September 15th, 2009
5:00 pm

“My personal “favorites” were the second-inning “Ballgame!” bafoons, and the panic-stricken Cassandras who wailed and gnashed the moment the Braves fell behind or lost a lead, LOL. Pretty much why I gave up on the in-game blogs.”

When time permits, I love to go back to the in-game blogs on games we won, espcially those where we had come-from-behind wins, to see all the “ballgame” and other negative stuff, you know, wanting Cox fired in the middle of the game and such.

Anders

September 15th, 2009
5:00 pm

I like the attitude Boss Lady! Remember to bring some insect spray for all the Phillie fans who now appear in every stadium they play at. Where were all these folks the last 100 years or so?

ncscoots

September 15th, 2009
5:02 pm

I’ve thought he was a bum from the gitgo.

So, that gitgo would include his first two years in Atlanta, 27 wins, 360 innings, that kind of bum, right, LOL? Color me homeless, but, I’d take a couple of those bums for a pitching staff just about any year. :-)

I’m no Hampton fan, but, geez louise, the guy has been pilloried here as if he were, oh, Anders or something, LOL.

Daslied

September 15th, 2009
5:03 pm

AustinBrave, I think it might take more for Gonzalez, and I don’t know if it’s worth it. He’s only costing about $10MM over the next two years total, which will make the requested return insanely high. Plus, if he’s truly available the Red Sox will likely go crazy trying to get him. I don’t think it’s in Atlanta’s best interests to get in a bidding war with Boston.

ppaddy123

September 15th, 2009
5:13 pm

I can’t see paying Lowe $16 MM to be a closer. And if Bowman’s line up is correct……please swap Diaz and Escobar in the line up……….It’s time to see what Escobar can do in the 3 hole!

Ebenezer Snerdberg

September 15th, 2009
5:13 pm

scoots:
Ever meet someone and you just din’t like his face. That’s Hampton with me. I just never have liked him. And I pull for ever wrong-arm chunker in the world…..save one! And I could care less if he’s fired before,during,after or in between games as long as they—FIRE BOBBY COX!

GO BRAVES!

ppaddy123

September 15th, 2009
5:14 pm

Is Kawakami considered a rookie?

dcp

September 15th, 2009
5:16 pm

Anders the play on the field dictates fan interest. When the Braves were winning each year you saw the same thing in road stadiums – LA, SD, SF, PHL, etc. In Philadelphia every game is a sellout. People travel because they cannot get seats at home and like to see ball games in different settings.

All – knowing the Braves have not won more than 5 in a row and the Phillies have not lost more than 4 in a row, is there really hope? Yes, it is possible, but not likely. Have to sweep NY – no 2 of 3, then sweep PH, hope PHL then loses 2 or 3 of 3 to FL, etc. It’s a lot, chasing more than just 1 team.

ppaddy123

September 15th, 2009
5:19 pm

AustinBrave…..let me see if I got you right………you’re the San Diego GM and you have the opportunity to trade the only guy in your everyday line up worth watching for…..????? I would imagine it would take at least a Tommy Hanson caliber prospect (Heyward)

dcp

September 15th, 2009
5:19 pm

ppaddy – Yes, Kawakami is considered a rookie – same way Ichiro was – a bit of a flaw in the system. Technically he could be Rookie of the Year, as was Ichiro in 2001.

ppaddy123

September 15th, 2009
5:23 pm

dcp, I thought so…….all things considered…….not a terrible rookie season

wjones

September 15th, 2009
5:29 pm

So how many “rookies” did we give significant playing to this year? Let’s see:

1. Hanson
2. Kawakami
3. Medlen
4. O’Flaherty (is he a rookie?)
5. Hernandez
6. Schafer

Is that all? Am I missing anyone?

Gerran McNurney

September 15th, 2009
5:30 pm

FIRE Boobie Cox

Nova Scotia Steve - Is Worried

September 15th, 2009
5:30 pm

That is the strangest line-up to date…no question

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