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Chop Chop
September 6th, 2009
4:32 pm
The Reds had to try it, though.
Virginia Ranger
September 6th, 2009
4:32 pm
Hay if we lose 3-2 Boobie can point out the improvement.
I am not a big fan of bringing the ifield in
Outfield assist to preserve the tie plus $142,303
nolie
September 6th, 2009
4:33 pm
Brooks Conrad continues to prove why he should have been our pinch hitter off the bench all year long (MF)
Bat Masterson
September 6th, 2009
4:33 pm
Cannon arm, Nate
Supes
September 6th, 2009
4:33 pm
Nate McLouth has been “saving his arm” all season long to make that throw today!
It’s the only explanation for him not attempting throwing home for the past 2 months that he’s been a Brave.
jeffrey d
September 6th, 2009
4:33 pm
Yeah Stone Cold. If I recall, Chief Norton hit a walk off sac fly against Montezuma.
Tomahawk Mafia
September 6th, 2009
4:33 pm
Weak arm, but at least it came up big here, and in the 2008 All-Star game at Yankee Stadium.
N8
September 6th, 2009
4:33 pm
Jake, let’s hope that’s the case. As for KK? I wasn’t sold on him early, but at 6.6 million next year, I think you have to keep him. He’ll give us what we’ll get out of Vazquez or D-Lowe (with in a half run ERA wise, imo), and going to cost half as much as Vazquez and less than half of Lowe.
So, he’s gotta stay, IMO. Of course, in terms of trade value, that salary makes him more tradable and might net us more in return. Where if somebody is going to take Lowe’s salary on, they might not give up as much. Just my guess.
WOW!! A strong throw and a catcher that blocks the plate AND hangs onto the ball?? Amazing.
Chop Chop, thanks for the clarification. That actually makes it a worse contract than I originally thought.
Supes
September 6th, 2009
4:33 pm
nolie,
Brooks came a lot closer to getting a hit than Norton has in recent months of walking and striking out.
Stone Cold
September 6th, 2009
4:35 pm
jeffrey d
September 6th, 2009
4:33 pm
Yeah Stone Cold. If I recall, Chief Norton hit a walk off sac fly against Montezuma.
You sure it wasn’t a pinch walk walk off?
MFin04
September 6th, 2009
4:35 pm
“He’s 0-3 what kinda proof is that may I ask?”
He’s hit 2 balls that very well could have been homeruns. And both would have been sac flys, something Greg Norton has consistently failed to do in HUGE situations where we only needed one run. That’s the proof. Not to mention his 3-run homer earlier this year.
Spuds MacKenzie
September 6th, 2009
4:35 pm
That is the funny to me.
Chipper Jones: “Oh he sucks. Worst season on his career, he’s done. Trade him. Waive him. Release him. Fire him.”
Martin Prado: “Oh he’s amazing! Marteeeeen! So scrappy. Breakout year. Amazing. Replace Chipper with him.”
2009 Chipper= .837 OPS
2009 Prado= .794 OPS
MFin04
September 6th, 2009
4:36 pm
Can we please win this game sooner rather than later? I enjoy watching KK pitch, but…
Jake W.
September 6th, 2009
4:37 pm
“Prado is making 400,000 and Chipper is making 10-12 million? Obviously Chipper is a better player than Martin, but looking at offensive and defensive production this year and including salary…you have to laugh at Chipper’s numbers, they are just terrible in comparison. And Chipper has played the worst third base I have ever seen”
We are trying to improve our offense. How is putting Prado at third going to do that next year? The truth of the matter is that neither Chipper nor Prado should be seen as stars in our offense, they should be seen as supporting cast members especially at this stage in Chipper’s career. If we are trying to improve this offense its by addition and not rearranging at this point. We know where we need improvements.
Mitchell
September 6th, 2009
4:37 pm
I love those people who sit behind home plate.
Yeah, don’t bother to move or stand up or react to a play at the plate or anything whatsoever.
You wouldn’t want to over exert yourself.
curtis jones
September 6th, 2009
4:37 pm
Martin Prado saved Chipper at least 3 errors today.
Mitchell
September 6th, 2009
4:38 pm
Why would you swing at that!?
Soph
September 6th, 2009
4:39 pm
Why would you swing at that!?
Cuz he’s Matt effin Diaz.
Steve from OH
September 6th, 2009
4:39 pm
Prado’s salary is the prime reason he should be the 2B next year over Kelly, not the 3B next year over Chipper.
nolie
September 6th, 2009
4:39 pm
Brooks Conrad continues to prove why he should have been our pinch hitter off the bench all year long (Stop)
you do know that is against the rules right? so why bother suggesting it?
Virginia Ranger
September 6th, 2009
4:39 pm
Does Gorecki stay in to play first, or does Matty come in to play first, or does the cripple come in and play third and Marteeeeen plays first? S**t I’d a left Adam in and made sure Hubbs gave him good directions on which way around the bases
MFin04
September 6th, 2009
4:40 pm
Questioning Matt Diaz is like questioning Bobby Cox…it is useless….but sometimes they give you pleasant surprises…Matt more than Bobby.
C-Note
September 6th, 2009
4:40 pm
triple posting crown = $15,000
Firearm
September 6th, 2009
4:40 pm
Come on Braves, sayonara run’s at first with 1 out, give Kenshin a win here!
curtis jones
September 6th, 2009
4:41 pm
We better win it here. If Owings gets to bat, we’re toast.
MFin04
September 6th, 2009
4:42 pm
Yeh, Braves better not have to pitch to Micah…
MFin04
September 6th, 2009
4:43 pm
Nice job Matty D!
Steve from OH
September 6th, 2009
4:44 pm
I hope Cox pinch-hits Norton for Conrad here.
Chop Chop
September 6th, 2009
4:44 pm
Micah Owings is impressive, isn’t he?
MiaBchBravesFan
September 6th, 2009
4:44 pm
The gNats beat the phish, 5-4.
MFin04
September 6th, 2009
4:45 pm
I was going to say the same thing Steve
Stone Cold
September 6th, 2009
4:45 pm
Norton is so good he can pinch hit for himself
Chop Chop
September 6th, 2009
4:46 pm
At least Norton wouldn’t have made contact.
RHR
September 6th, 2009
4:47 pm
Fire Brooks Conrad!
Tomahawk Mafia
September 6th, 2009
4:47 pm
Wow, it’s like the Braves go out of their way to be unproductive with runners on base.
Steve from OH
September 6th, 2009
4:47 pm
Stupid ole Donker shoulda used Norton, I’m tellin y’all. I know this because my hindsight is always 20-20.
njbraves
September 6th, 2009
4:47 pm
Spuds….That’s how it works around here. This blog has a soft spot in it’s collective heart for guys like Prado and Conrad. It’s dumb, but it’s true.
Kelly Johnson Fan Club
September 6th, 2009
4:47 pm
Prado’s salary is the prime reason he should be the 2B next year over Kelly, not the 3B next year over Chipper.
And the discrepancy between Chipper and Prado’s defense at 3B is the reason Chipper should play 1B and Prado 3B next year.
Virginia Ranger
September 6th, 2009
4:49 pm
Its casue Marteeen and Brooks are more like me and youo. Slobs just trying real hard to do a good job and maybe win a ball game. Not guys making bou coup millions and not really giving a crap if they win or lose
Chop Chop
September 6th, 2009
4:49 pm
That is some…not good hitting.
RHR
September 6th, 2009
4:49 pm
Did Corky just throw up a whatever sign?
Soph
September 6th, 2009
4:50 pm
*sigh*
*even bigger sigh*
MFin04
September 6th, 2009
4:50 pm
Not good…
Tomahawk Mafia
September 6th, 2009
4:51 pm
Infante is showing why he is a nice utility player rather than a productive starting player
the anti-clutch
September 6th, 2009
4:51 pm
Braves arer not a playoff team because they are awful in the clutch. Norton haters-how clutch was your hero Conrad there?
Rob from SC
September 6th, 2009
4:52 pm
As much as I like Vazquez, it is hard to overlook the tank job he has done in the most important games of the season. Maybe he is not a big game pitcher.
Stone Cold
September 6th, 2009
4:52 pm
Norton was using a sun dial to figure out when he last got a hit.
Bat Masterson
September 6th, 2009
4:52 pm
Mike Schmidt G BA OBP SLG OPS
37 yrs 147 .293 .388 .548 .936
38 yrs 108 .249 .337 .405 .742
39 yrs 42 .203 .297 .372 .668 retires during the season
Steve from OH
September 6th, 2009
4:52 pm
And the discrepancy between Chipper and Prado’s defense at 3B is the reason Chipper should play 1B and Prado 3B next year
A) I don’t think Chipper’s defense this year has been representative of his defensive ability
B) 1B would be very hard on Chipper’s knees
C) The discrepancy between their offensive levels as I perceive them over a full season is bigger than the current value. I don’t think Prado is any more than a .775 OPS hitter over 600 PA, whereas Chipper is at least an .850 OPS hitter, with the ability to be a .900 OPS hitter. We need offense, and, like Jake said, rearranging our current offensive pieces will do nothing for us. We’ve gotta stick with our best offensive pieces and build around them. Chipper is a better piece than Prado, no question.
Roman Gal
September 6th, 2009
4:52 pm
Stupid ole Donker shoulda used Norton, I’m tellin y’all. I know this because my hindsight is always 20-20. Steve from OH
Be careful what you wish for.
MFin04
September 6th, 2009
4:52 pm
Norton’s going to try and lose games with his glove, this should be interesting.
Rob from SC
September 6th, 2009
4:52 pm
Kelly Johnson Fan Club
September 6th, 2009
4:47 pm
Prado’s salary is the prime reason he should be the 2B next year over Kelly, not the 3B next year over Chipper.
And the discrepancy between Chipper and Prado’s defense at 3B is the reason Chipper should play 1B and Prado 3B next year.
One of Yunel Escobar’s would kill Chipper
Soph
September 6th, 2009
4:53 pm
Oh my. Norton at first?
[looks at bloggers]
Stone Cold
September 6th, 2009
4:53 pm
Braves arer not a playoff team because they are awful in the clutch
Not true…McClouth and Loaf did just fine in their clutch earlier
curtis jones
September 6th, 2009
4:53 pm
At last. Nort gets a chance to flash that leather.
nolie
September 6th, 2009
4:53 pm
Conrad popped out to SS? WTF. I thought that would be a lock. I think some of youse guys are lying to me about what a great player he is. I’m starting to have my doubts.
MFin04
September 6th, 2009
4:54 pm
Chipper’s defense is probably indicative of the fact that he is getting older and is going to have a defensive decline similar to Loaf in Left.
jeffrey d
September 6th, 2009
4:54 pm
I’m surprised Norton remembers where first base is.
Steve from OH
September 6th, 2009
4:55 pm
I’d love to have the resources to keep Kelly and Prado just in case but I don’t think that we do without payroll expansion from Liberty…which is why we’re probably gonna have to put our eggs in Prado’s basket at 2B, for better or for worse.
Rob from SC
September 6th, 2009
4:55 pm
We don’t need to worry about the rotation. Frank Wren will trade either Vazquez, Kawakami, or Lowe.
jeffrey d
September 6th, 2009
4:55 pm
Roachey would’ve gotten him.
Virginia Ranger
September 6th, 2009
4:55 pm
Even if we win this, we can’t be proud of our performance
RHR
September 6th, 2009
4:56 pm
Wait? Brooksie didn’t win the game?! I banked on it and changed the channel.
nolie
September 6th, 2009
4:56 pm
Brooks came a lot closer to getting a hit than Norton has in recent months of walking and striking out. (Supes)
close only counts in horseshoes hand grenades and hydrogen bombs my friend.
Rob from SC
September 6th, 2009
4:56 pm
I thought he got that one
Chop Chop
September 6th, 2009
4:56 pm
Damn. I wanted that one out of the park. Oh, well.
MFin04
September 6th, 2009
4:56 pm
The wind must be blowing in today, lots of balls dying in the outfield at the fences…
Rob from SC
September 6th, 2009
4:57 pm
Lazy ass Gorecki
RHR
September 6th, 2009
4:57 pm
Chipper woulda had him!
TnBrian
September 6th, 2009
4:58 pm
WOW, we might be looking at a sweep at the hands of the Reds…can’t believe I just wrote that.
MFin04
September 6th, 2009
4:58 pm
Reid fell asleep on that play. Of course, Loaf wouldn’t have gotten to the ball quick enough to throw him out….so it’s a wash
jeffrey d
September 6th, 2009
4:58 pm
I think it’s more of him being a rookie than lazy.
Rob from SC
September 6th, 2009
4:58 pm
Schafer still has more walks than Anderson
bigdave
September 6th, 2009
4:58 pm
” a little flat footed…”
no he didnt hustle…!!! call it like it is…
Steve from OH
September 6th, 2009
4:59 pm
Chipper’s defense is probably indicative of the fact that he is getting older and is going to have a defensive decline
I disagree. Is one year of age enough to take Chipper from a +7.5 UZR/150 to a -15.8? I don’t think so. I think it’s due to the fact that he’s just having a really bad year. He’s made a lot of errors on easy balls that I don’t think are indicative of a decline in skill…they’re just that–errors. I think he’ll rebound nicely across the board next year. Besides, 3B isn’t as important of a defensive position compared to 2B or CF or RF/LF IMO.
Rob from SC
September 6th, 2009
4:59 pm
jeffrey d
September 6th, 2009
4:58 pm
I think it’s more of him being a rookie than lazy.
that is no excuse. They go first to third in the minors as well
Mixxo
September 6th, 2009
4:59 pm
C’mon Redlegs, lets end this thing!
Lets go Balenteeny!
MFin04
September 6th, 2009
4:59 pm
No matter what, the Braves will continue to get KK loses not matter how well he pitches, lol.
TnBrian
September 6th, 2009
4:59 pm
I guess there’s nobody in our minors that are better than Gorecki. If so, the future might not be as bright as a lot of us think. That guy is BAD in all aspects of the game.
Steve from OH
September 6th, 2009
4:59 pm
Rob–really?
jeffrey d
September 6th, 2009
5:00 pm
So right now we have a lineup without: Chipper, McCann, Yunel, Loaf, and LaRoche
And with: Norton and Gorecki.
Yeah, I like our chances.
CopenhagenBravesFan
September 6th, 2009
5:00 pm
“think it’s more of him being a rookie than lazy.”
- you are not allowed to go first to third in the minors…!?
MFin04
September 6th, 2009
5:00 pm
Chipper has thrown away 3-5 games with errors this year in the 8th, 9th, extra innings.
Rob from SC
September 6th, 2009
5:00 pm
Steve from OH
I understand you are a stats guy. But you have to admit, you can’t be 100% sure Chipper is not seriously declining. He is 37 years old. In all likely hood he will never again reach those 2008 stats.
Rob from SC
September 6th, 2009
5:01 pm
Steve from OH
September 6th, 2009
4:59 pm
Rob–really?
About Schafer and Anderson?
RHR
September 6th, 2009
5:01 pm
Steve – do you have to ask? LOL
Virginia Ranger
September 6th, 2009
5:02 pm
Guess we got this set up for Owings to be a hero. Hasn’t he already hit a slam against us last year?
Rob from SC
September 6th, 2009
5:02 pm
I would take Owings right now for LF
Rob from SC
September 6th, 2009
5:03 pm
I hope he is ok, Kawakami you suck
bigdave
September 6th, 2009
5:03 pm
wow.
MFin04
September 6th, 2009
5:03 pm
Bout time we hit someone….
Virginia Ranger
September 6th, 2009
5:03 pm
Norton can’t even do that
Chop Chop
September 6th, 2009
5:03 pm
Jesus…
nolie
September 6th, 2009
5:03 pm
BaLlGamE!!!! bOOBy bOOger gaVe Up a WalK % a hIT! Dumm bUNnie! FirE bOOby, Free Freeman!!! Wher’s My remOTE? Oh YeaH, I goTTa BreaK OUt anOTHer case Of TheM. Good ThinG I Cand Buy tHEM By the Gross EveRY SPRinG. AlMOSt Out AnyWay. Damm.
C-Note
September 6th, 2009
5:03 pm
sweep
Chop Chop
September 6th, 2009
5:03 pm
Right in the ear hole. What are the fans cheering about? He hasn’t moved.
bgvt
September 6th, 2009
5:04 pm
MFin04 –
You are a sorry individual.
MFin04
September 6th, 2009
5:04 pm
That is why looking good in those helmets, and feeling good in the other helmets…is a stupid argument…
curtis jones
September 6th, 2009
5:04 pm
Good grief. How many more ways can we find to lose?
the anti-clutch
September 6th, 2009
5:05 pm
Only the Mets could fold worse than this in September-good job Braves