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cabravesfan
September 5th, 2009
12:13 am
jeffrey d-
as you will learn in the next several weeks I am an obnoxiously proud Trojan
Vinings Jim
September 5th, 2009
12:14 am
cabravesfan – I can hear you…
RHR
September 5th, 2009
12:15 am
OK Jim you are in the clear for now but my goodness, you are going to have to learn some basic math if you expect to be taken seriously as a math tutor. I’m embarrassed for you not knowing that 14 years is less than 2 months but I won’t tell anyone if you promise to get it right from now on.
jeffrey d
September 5th, 2009
12:15 am
I’m pretty sure he meant “viola!” But walaa is pretty funny. Maybe it’ll catch on…I tried to get a “dofus” following last night but it never caught.
CAB – we’ll see YOU in the Rose Bowl!
…..we’ll have to get tickets though.
jeffrey d
September 5th, 2009
12:16 am
Wait, he’s the pee guy from the other night?
Pee guy from the other night? What’s this story??
cabravesfan
September 5th, 2009
12:17 am
jeffrey d-
sounds good…can’t wait to watch USC dole out anther beatdown in the Rose Bowl this year
Vinings Jim
September 5th, 2009
12:18 am
jeffrey d – or voila
Chop Chop
September 5th, 2009
12:19 am
Blaine Boyer enters the game and, walaa!, he gives it up.
Rockies win, 5-4.
jeffrey d
September 5th, 2009
12:20 am
No VJ, I meant viola. The small stringed instrument (this would be where the blushing face would go if I knew how)
RHR
September 5th, 2009
12:20 am
Chipper gone lose what few fans he has left when he goes on College Gameday and disses the Dawgs wearing gator garb…
Oh I don’t know about that. He can’t help that he was raised to be a gator fan…he doesn’t know any better. I ain’t mad at him.
cabravesfan
September 5th, 2009
12:20 am
gotta be up early tomorrow- heading out to the game early (who was the bright one that scheduled our home opener at 12:30??) so I am going to make my exit
Good Night All!
jeffrey d
September 5th, 2009
12:21 am
Well maybe if they gave you somebody to play in the Rose Bowl. Illinois?
Soph
September 5th, 2009
12:21 am
RHR – Chop Chop stole your word (walaa).
ChurchMan
September 5th, 2009
12:22 am
5 games back, that’ll probably do it for the Braves. Sure the Rockies could get cold but the braves have shown plenty of times they don’t have it in them to take advantage.
Soph
September 5th, 2009
12:22 am
jeffrey, someone made the post below a few nights ago -
“We can’t fall more than 4 games out. We can’t fall more than 4 games out”. What if you do? Pathetic bunch of losers!! I’m setting my alarm for 4:00 AM to take a pee and see how many of you guys are still going to be attempting to get over a freaking baseball game.
a643dp
September 5th, 2009
12:22 am
5 games back well its was fun while it lasted maybe Bobby will retire hopefully or just maybe Wren will get a kick out of kicking 3 HOFers to the curb in one year.
cabravesfan
September 5th, 2009
12:23 am
jeffrey d-
not who we wanted either…we can only crush the team they put out there to “play” us
Doc Holiday
September 5th, 2009
12:23 am
Looking at the remaining schedule, I think the braves can go 24-3 the rest of the way……..anything can happen, you know.
Vinings Jim
September 5th, 2009
12:24 am
cabravesfan – are you lying to me on purpose, or just unable to control yourself?
Soph
September 5th, 2009
12:24 am
Night cab! Have fun at the game tomorrow.
cabravesfan
September 5th, 2009
12:25 am
VJ-
Sorry! Really leaving now!
(Thanks Soph
)
Porky Lentz
September 5th, 2009
12:28 am
Abbedi Abbedi Abbedi Abbedi Abbedi that’s all MORONS.
RHR
September 5th, 2009
12:34 am
I’m not rocket surgeon but it seems like the same guy to me….
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2009/09/02/hudson-and-a-crowded-house-o-starters/comment-page-19/#comment-294758
and then I laughed at that and then next day from out of who knows where…..
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2009/09/03/goofy-helmets-and-one-last-shot-at-the-fish/comment-page-16/#comment-296600
Right?
Rick In Jackson
September 5th, 2009
12:34 am
IMO it’s pretty obvious that any playoff hopes are gone. The real question is can this team finish above .500? It’d at least be an improvment!
RHR
September 5th, 2009
12:35 am
Night cab – good luck with The University of Phoenix Online
jeffrey d
September 5th, 2009
12:37 am
Rick we’re not talking about baseball anymore.
Doc Holiday
September 5th, 2009
12:37 am
This team wont do it next season either if:
1. Cox remains our manager.
2. Chipper remains our everyday 3B and 3rd hitter.
3. Mc remains our cleanup hitter.
4. Our CF remains an adventure
5. Our RF remains an adventure
6. Our Lf remains an adventure.
7. Norton remains on the team.
Everything else is in place.
Next season:
LF DIAZ
SS YUNEL
2B PRADO
1B LAROCHE
3B CHIPPER
C MC
RF NATE
CF SCHAFER
BENCH: CHURCH + OMAR + ROSS + CONRAD + KJ
No need to add anything. we can add a slugger by trading KK + CHURCH + KJ———-THAT COULD GET US A SLUGGER
Chipper has become a problem, so Id try Prado at 3b and Conrad or Infante as everyday 2B.
jeffrey d
September 5th, 2009
12:37 am
Night cab – good luck with The University of Phoenix Online
double props
Yunel's Frosted Tips
September 5th, 2009
12:38 am
It’s obvious DOB rather talk about music nobody’s ever heard of and barbeque that nobody’s ever ate than the sorry ass Braves. Let’s say goodnight with a former New York City Cop with his first American Top 40 hit from 1977, Eddie Money with Two Tickets to Paradise….
Got a surprise especially for you,
Something that both of us have always wanted to do.
We’ve waited so long, waited so long.
We’ve waited so long, waited so long.
I’m gonna take you on a trip so far from here,
I’ve got two tickets in my pocket, now baby, we’re gonna disappear.
We’ve waited so long, waited so long.
We’ve waited so long, waited so long.
I’ve got two tickets to paradise,
Won’t you pack your bags, we’ll leave tonight,
I’ve got two tickets to paradise,
I’ve got two tickets to paradise.
oh-oh-uh-oh-uh-oh-uh-oh-uh-oh-uh-oh
oh-oh-uh-oh-uh-oh-uh-oh-uh-oh-uh-oh
I’m gonna take you on a trip so far from here,
I’ve got two tickets in my pocket, now baby, we’re gonna disappear.
We’ve waited so long, waited so long.
We’ve waited so long, waited so long.
I’ve got two tickets to paradise,
Won’t you pack your bags, we’ll leave tonight,
I’ve got two tickets to paradise,
I’ve got two tickets to paradise.
RHR
September 5th, 2009
12:39 am
Soph – anyone can use my word. As long as they pay me 25 cents per use. I will set up a paypal account for the royalties payments.
Doc Holiday
September 5th, 2009
12:39 am
jeffrey d,
We can talk baseball alright, not 2009 baseball though.
jeffrey d
September 5th, 2009
12:49 am
RHR – how’s it your word? Some angry fan said it.
Doc Holiday
September 5th, 2009
12:53 am
Trying to be positive:
AT LEAST WE LASTED 5 MONTHS THIS SEASON.
Being realistic:
DEEP DOWN (AND NOT SO DEEP) WE ALL KNEW HOW THING WERE GOING TO END WHEN THERE STILL WERE 5 MONTHS TO PLAY.
A-ville Ranger
September 5th, 2009
12:59 am
Well they held out till Dawgs football at least.
Bobby, please retire.
Soph
September 5th, 2009
1:01 am
I guess she’ll have to give royalties to the angry fan from the 25 cents she gets. Hmmm, I would say half? 12.5 cents.
jeffrey d
September 5th, 2009
1:04 am
That makes it pretty inconvenient. I’m gonna have to say it twice at a time so I don’t have to deal with that half penny mess.
ccrider
September 5th, 2009
1:11 am
Doc Holiday: I agree on your 12:37 post. But, the Lineup you posted will not come close to getting the job done. The Braves management is not playing for next year, but the year after. 2011 will bring a lineup containing Schafer, Prado, Heyward, A big, preferably, righthanded middle of the order Bat, Freeman, Escobar, McCann and hopefully a decent replacement for Chipper.
We have all seen this year that Chipper Is hitting the wall ( and not much else). His defense has been the worse ever, his power and average is way down. The OBP has been fine, but as pitchers realize he is no longer a middle of the order threat, that will go down too. I only hope that after this season he keeps his promise, when he said he would know when it’s time to retire. That time has come. But, I am sure he will play in 2010 just to try and prove this season was a fluke: but it won’t be and when ihe plays as badly as he did this season I hope he retires with grace and doesn’t hang around, dragging the team down and just collecting a big paycheck. If he does that I will have lost all respect for him.
2011 will also find Mike Minor and Julio Tehren either in the rotation or knocking on the door. Craig Kimbrell will be the closer and hopefully we will have found a trade partner for Derek Lowe.
I think the future is bright just not in 2010
Mitch C
September 5th, 2009
1:22 am
This team is done for 2009. Each night seems to bring a loss worse than the last one. The Braves remind me of a horse that looks like it is going to win, and then as it is coming into the home stretch of the race, it is passed by all the other horses who want it more.
We have had some absolutely inexcusable losses the last two weeks.
The Braves will probably finish in third place in the East, with a win total in the mid 80s, maybe similar to 2007.
I really hope that Bobby retires after this year. I was on his side until now. With all the upgrades this team made, there is no reason we shouldnt have won the wild card. This team needs personnel changes in the off season, and new blood in the manager’s office. Keep Bobby in the front office in some advisory capacity, and try Pendelton as the manager next season.
Mitch
uga-brave
September 5th, 2009
1:32 am
greetings and salutations from oklahoma.
just got back eskimos joe’s
plenty of dawgs fans out here.
nice to see the braves did not respond. well it is college football time.
we are 5 1/2 point underdogs.
well like i said earlier hell is coming with us.
uga-brave
September 5th, 2009
1:40 am
wow, nice to see our heap have another great game. note to heap, 20 minutes on the treadmill and off to denny’s for the grand slam breakfast does not constitute a training program.
the dude is fat. he is killing the team in the four hole.
uga-brave
September 5th, 2009
1:49 am
blount from oregon could play for me any day. he dropped that angry guy with one punch.
Mario Mendoza
September 5th, 2009
1:54 am
I dunno what’s more disgusting, Chino Cadahia’s gut, or this 3 game losing streak.
seems like we’re done yo!
NO MORE BOBBY
September 5th, 2009
1:55 am
Bobby gets ejected because its all he has left to offer.
Sad ending to a good career. He should have walked away two years ago.
NO MORE BOBBY
September 5th, 2009
1:59 am
For everyone asking Bobby to retire….
You really think he would do that? This is the same old man who refuses to admit he’s been wrong keeping Norton on the roster. It is up to Wren to remove Cox.
I have a good feeling that its finally going to happen. Right Wren?
uga-brave
September 5th, 2009
2:03 am
scottsdale last year, sparky ran out running with the devil. arizonia state saw knowson stand out on the 40 yardline.
knowshon just stood out there.
win or lose at least we play people. gotta hunch that jeff owens, and geno atkins might control the interior.
they might win, heck if they dont boone pickens will have a stroke.
uga-brave
September 5th, 2009
2:17 am
yeah all the mensa members are ganging up bobby cox.
ever thought that we dont have talent?
rank our everday vs. the cardinals or the phillies.
the phillies have five plus palayers that are better.
rollins, utley, werth, howard, and ibanez. the card’s
holliday, pulols, their entire outfield.
carpenter, wainright, pinero, and frainklin.
jeffrey d
September 5th, 2009
2:49 am
the dude is fat. he is killing the team in the four hole.
Yes, because cleanup hitters are known for being in incredible shape.
Jerald Holcombe
September 5th, 2009
3:00 am
Most of you guys have one big problem. You refuse to see the light. I told everyone a couple months ago that this team was a .500 team. Now, a couple months later, what are we? Errr, let me see…a .500 team? We have a good starting rotation, not great, just good. What separates them from the staffs of old? Those pitchers sank their teeth into you and didn’t let go, whereas these pitchers wither too quickly. Bullpen blows, but that isn’t their fault. Bobby Cox has been killing bullpens since we lost those great starting pitchers that use to go 8-9 innings practically every game. And as long as Cox is here, we will continue to have sh!t bullpens. Offensively, we have a better offensive team than those of the championship years. So what is the difference and why don’t these guys win? Well, those guys from years past played defensive for one. Those guys also maximized output by driving in runs when they had to chance to. Those guys were never 3rd in the league in hitting into DPs. Those guys had a killer instinct. These guys? Well, these guys have none of that. These guys won’t ever be like those guys of old. I see some of you posting the lineups that you’d like to see next year. Why? Do you want another .500 team? That’s what you are gonna have with this core of players. All is not lost though, because we do have Hanson and Jurjjens. Those two are further along than Glavine and Smoltz were in the late 80s before those great rotations took shape. We need a Pendleton at 3rd base, not a Chipper who we can’t count on. Escobar is a keeper, as well as Prado. LaRoach is Sid Bream when you come right down to it. McCann is also a keeper, but not as a cleanup hitter. I like Diaz. McClouth strikes out too much to be a leadoff hitter. Loaf is a hitter, but he’s an old hitter. Get him outta here. Our bench? What bench? Worst bench in the game. What ever happened to playing earn a position? With Bobby, he’ll just make excuses for his sh!tty players and keep on playing them, while others that earn the right to play continue to toil away in the minors. I would like to be more positive about the team, but until Bobby is gone, there is no hope, unless we can get another great rotation and Bobby won’t have to manage. He can just sit there and pick his nose to his heart’s content and go into the HOF for God’s knows what. When that day comes, I think I’ll probably become physically ill.
uga-brave
September 5th, 2009
3:01 am
yeah jefrrey d,
that .220 avearage since july in the for hole is awesome.
Ronald Millsaps
September 5th, 2009
3:06 am
This team’s overall approach is not good. As mentioned before, the gameday experience at Turner Field, which usually is either irreverent or irrelevant, symbolizes the overall commitment to winning that this franchise has.
Let’s start with ownership: I don’t patronize AOL because I don’t like its direction or its products. It threatens to do to the Braves what it did to TBS.
Frank Wren is a fine GM, but he didn’t drop the ball by not pursuing John Smoltz recently. No, he caught the ball and spiked it willfully.
Bobby apparently subscribes to this humanistic theory that you have to be positive. I caught a bit of his postgame interview tonight, and he spoke about how the team didn’t have any “luck” and that McCann’s two lined shots went right at people. Folks, Bronson Arroyo has his way with this team, and the fact that he continues to do so time and time again tells me that we’re not analyzing his approach well enough and preparing well enough. We’re not going to get anywhere if we’re waiting for luck or complaining about two would-be hits in a nine-inning game going right at a defender. It’d be nice to hear Bobby show more frustration and an angry voice tone instead of what appears to be a vote in favor of the aforementioned “be positive” theory. (You can speak positively all you want, but doing so absolutely won’t help you one iota.)
I missed most of the game but did see the inning where Derek Lowe singled, which was followed by a single by Matt Diaz. Whether you believe me or not, I thought, “We’ll mess it up someway!” Sure enough, Derek Lowe got picked off after taking a ridiculously-excessive lead.
This team simply does not execute well enough and makes too many mistakes like the aforementioned non-cerebral move Lowe made. Chipper dropped a ball the other night that he should’ve had; Diaz doesn’t get his glove down in right field; Bobby doesn’t attempt a double-steal after Yunel Escobar ties the game with a homer–even though we had the Marlins on the ropes and even though this team desperately needs to try to avoid double-plays. Back to Escobar, he’s a great talent, but he hasn’t shown a matching maturity level or proven to be reliable enough not to pout if he gets frustrated.
I’m tired of all the excuses, too. A lot of broadcasters and even players like to single-out bad calls. Well, guess what? David Wright at least came out after all his teammates got injured and called for his team to play together with no excuses, an approach I strongly admire.
Not only am I not seeing this type of unity and responsibility in Atlanta, but I’m not seeing a cerebral approach (as in some of the errors I described), and I’m not seeing a commitment to the development of the God-given talent all players have. I’m seeing a lot of passivity and positivity, and I’m positive that we’re getting passed in the standings.
By the way, I don’t care WHO listens to WHAT on his blamed wireless phone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TNJeff
September 5th, 2009
3:28 am
Didn’t see the game – didn’t have to & here’s what I know: Cox is an idiot. Cox is an embarrassment. Cox is deserving of being shown the door (that would be his BEST “Good luck” spot to stand to bring a Braves win.
Question that AJC should ask if had the guts: Who is the biggest disappointment for the season – Chipper Jones or Derek Lowe. My vote is still for Lowe despite his inflated numbers. The guy can’t pitch a shutout or even come close. Wow, great to have the playoff veteran on a team going nowhere! Lowe should go to the bullpen & KK stay in the starting rotation. Chipper is making a strong, late bid for biggest disappointment & calls for his retirement.
TNJeff
September 5th, 2009
3:36 am
OK – now I have looked at tonight’s stats. Ummmmm… how many errors is Chipper gonna make before the seasons over? Seems like he’s had a season’s worth just within the last 2 weeks. With that said, Chipper is making a STRONG push for biggest disappointment title.
TNJeff
September 5th, 2009
3:39 am
Oh, and not surprising – Lowe gave up 3 runs. He’s the ace in the bullpen coming up big in big games. And to top it off, Lowe helped take the Braves out of a possible scoring opportunity late by getting picked off second. Nice touch. He fits right in with this bunch of misfits who don’t know a thing about fundamentals.
jed
September 5th, 2009
3:39 am
i saw that boise/oregon game last night. blount flipped out for certain, but that guy from boise DESERVED it. taunting the guy after winning and then expecting just to get away with it? i cant recommend it, but i’ll admit i laughed my azz off when blount dropped him mid-smirk!
jed
September 5th, 2009
3:42 am
as for any wisdom from here about tonight’s game and the state of the team, there’s none to be found. i taped it and zipped thru it in its utterly uninspiring entirety. uggg.
TNJeff
September 5th, 2009
3:46 am
Wren made the tough & controversial calls to let both Smoltz and Glavine go. NOW will he do the Right thing & show Cox the door?
Kevin
September 5th, 2009
3:47 am
well its over if we can not beat a bad Reds team n a lousy Pitcher we done…Its over u want see bad wait till smoltz comes to town n had No-Hits the braves here at The Ted 11-0 over Bobby cox n the three stooges!
Kevin
September 5th, 2009
3:52 am
hey remember chipper cost a 2 games on last of season if yall remember in 2000 vs st.louis u remember Mr i a god he struck out leave people on errors lost n sunday last game cost wohlers a win when he over threw 1st base n poof St louis wins n his wondefull fieldin carry over in wild card as we got swept 3-0 and deserve the small crowd of 43,000 for Game3….Bobby cox lost it like he do now if he quit pickin his nose are balls we be okay!
Ronald Millsaps
September 5th, 2009
4:04 am
Kevin–WHAT?????
Ronald Millsaps
September 5th, 2009
4:16 am
Looks like AOL/Time Warner’s goal is to destroy the Braves the way it destroyed TBS.
Bobby was too upbeat after the game. All this “be positive” rhetoric is absolutely nothing more than humanistic propaganda.
No, we didn’t have any luck tonight. Yes, we hit some hard shots right at people. Well, you don’t win games on luck but instead by working to develop your God-given talent and combining it with preparation and execution. I see mostly passivity and positivity on this team, and I’m positive that we’re getting passed in the standings.
Take a look at David Wright, who said after all the injuries to his best teammates that he wanted everyone to play their best and not make excuses. We could stand to re-learn that lesson.
Bobby needs to drop this American League style and simply be more aggressive and go with the hot hand also. In a crucial game, stick with a hot pitcher, and rest him the following night. Also, we should’ve tried a double-steal in the third game against Florida (right after Yunel Escobar’s homer), as double-plays are killing this team, yet we don’t do much to try to avoid them, including not sending Nate McLouth in the ninth tonight!!!!
This team needs to mature and play more professionally. Chipper’s defense, Garret’s, Matt’s, McCann’s, etc. is occasionally inexcusable and not the kind of thing that’s going to get you into the playoffs, and it’d be nice if Derek Lowe wouldn’t take a ridiculous lead and if Escobar would prove to the team that he’s unlikely to pout if he doesn’t get his way.
There still is a chance to make the playoffs, but this cavalier approach needs to make way for a LeBron James-like approach.
By the way, I don’t care WHO listens to WHAT on his wireless phone!!!!!!!!!
Ronald Millsaps
September 5th, 2009
4:19 am
Looks like AOL/Time Warner wants to do to the Braves what it did to TBS.
Boog
September 5th, 2009
6:37 am
the curse of the tomahawk chop is alive and well
130on2
September 5th, 2009
6:38 am
Bobby Cox is not getting old and losing it. He is the same as he has always been. He is good at maintaining order and chemistry at a high level. This results in relative consistent results year in and year out. You don’t see his team win the division one year and finish 4th the next, then win again the next year or so. Many teams do this. When a player becomes a ‘cancer’ in the clubhouse, he is gone. I don’t think you will ever see Manny on a Bobby Cox team.
However, he is the one game/short series worst manager I have ever seen. For example, Norton should not bat again, at least this year. Those of you now clamoring for Johnson should realize he is currently 0-21 since his 4 or 5 game hitting streak. We have gone a year for one 4 or 5 game hitting streak and people and Cox still like him?????. We now have Brooks Conrad and he still uses Norton and Johnson!! Please!!!! I don’t know exactly what Chipper has been doing to get out of his slump but historically his dad is the only one who can help him. His dad should be travelling with the team. Maybe he could get something done. (I really don’t expect TP to do anything).
Cox has never been able to manage the bullpen. That statement is not nearly strong enough, but I will leave it as is. Also, when we get good bullpen personel, we let them get away by not resigning them. That is assuming Cox hasn’t ruined their arm by over using them.
I have supported Cox throught the years, but I am now changing my mind. He no longer has Smoltz, Glavine and Maddox to offset his game day ‘decisions’. We have to have a manager that can handle all aspects of the job.
Braveheart
September 5th, 2009
7:12 am
I love how Bobby Cox is supposedly an idiot because he was supposed to use Carlyle, Nunez or Logan instead of trusting Soriano, Gonzalez, Moylan, O’Flaherty and Medlen in a tight game. I also love how Bobby Cox is supposedly an idiot because he doesn’t use Brooks Conrad instead of Norton or KJ. Hey, look, Norton sucks, but chrissakes, what friggin’ manager wants to spend the entire winter asking himself why he blew his chances for the postseason by trusting the likes of Conrad, Nunez, Carlyle, Logan in a tight game during a run to the postseason instead of the likes of Soriano, Gonzalez, Moylan, O’Flaherty, Medlen, Norton and KJ? Not many managers are gonna use the infantrymen over the special ops guys in high leverage situations
Ebenezer Snerdberg
September 5th, 2009
7:22 am
Braveheart;
When asked,Cox will say,”We blew it…What?
Mitch C
September 5th, 2009
7:24 am
As I read the articles written on the AJC about the Braves, their season, and Mr Robert Joesph Cox, the following dawned on me.
Why are the writers in Atlanta so kind to Bobby, and to the Braves, when he clearly isnt the right person to manage the team anymore? Had this been New York, or Philadelphia, the newspapers and TV would have been calling for his resignation or firing. Instead, everyone, including the writers at the AJC, seem to be saying “Aww shucks another disappointing season, maybe next year we’ll..”.
Make no mistake, I’ve always liked Bobby as a manager, and as a person. He accomplished a great feat with getting this team to the playoffs fourteen years in a row. Then, we began to slip a bit. That was to be expected. However, this was the one year that the Braves made significant personnel upgrades in the offseason. Lowe and Vazquez have been very good additions, and should continue to help us, whoever the manager is next year. It just seems that, except for that one good run for a few weeks, this team has found ways to lose this year. This is a team that definitely should have won thw wild card. Now, unless a miracle happens in the next four weeks, that wont be happening.
Bobby belongs in the Hall of Fame, for his past accomplishments, and for guiding this team to greatness for so long. That, however, was in the past. The Braves of the last few years have been, save for last year’s disaster, a frustrating, mediocre team. If we cant get to the playoffs with the upgrades we made this year, it would seem to me it would be time to do something different with the manager, and probably to make other personnel changes.
Mitch
Ebenezer Snerdberg
September 5th, 2009
7:24 am
Good Mawnin’ fellow sufferers.
And to kick it off that great new single by Olivia Newton-John!
PLEASE,MISTER(WREN)PLEASE,WON’T YOU FIRE BOBBY COX?
Ebenezer Snerdberg
September 5th, 2009
7:26 am
mitch:
Bobby belongs in the ‘Hall Of Shame’ for hangin’ ’round when he’s gone round the cawnah!
Bob
September 5th, 2009
7:31 am
Here are a few thoughts:
1. season is over. the team just cannot seem to win the ‘big one’.
2. cox ejections. how many of the games when cox was ejected has the team won? 150 ejections. i suspect the team has lost 120 ejections. what is his point? i would rather have a manager who saves the ejections for a real reason.
3. third base. the organization has a replacement for chipper. it is mac. remember how torre moved from catcher to third in order to prolong his career.
4. speed. the team needs speed. it is pitiful that the team lacks it.
5. coaching. the bobby cox squad has to go. too much loyalty and not enough performance.
well, let’s wait to see what happens at the owners meetings in december.
130on2
September 5th, 2009
7:37 am
Bravehart – “Special ops”?? Mabe so. I guess it depends on your definition of ‘Special ops’.
Braveheart Huh?
September 5th, 2009
7:53 am
Just read Braveheart’s post.
I gotta say that is one of the most idiotic posts I have ever read defending Cox.
Efrim
September 5th, 2009
7:56 am
Yunel hurt? Again? We have a few players, our best ones, that really have a problem staying on the field. Not good.
Firetheoldfool
September 5th, 2009
8:01 am
Braveheart
September 5th, 2009
7:12 am
Hey are you nuts? Enough said.
Ebenezer Snerdberg
September 5th, 2009
8:02 am
Mitch:
In Atlanta,sad to say we no longer have a ‘newspaper’ When The Journal and The Constitution merged in ‘02,I think it was all journalism in this ‘city’ went to Hell in a handbasket! The clowns we have there now put up wire articles,talk about their music,or dream for the day they can get to a ‘real’ fishwraper,like in the Big Apple or Chi-town. Want the McCoy,sad to say these days,pick up a damnyankee rag. Onliest way to go!
Braveheart
September 5th, 2009
8:08 am
Why because I’m not some goober retard who would use Conrad, Nunez, Carlyle and Logan in a tight game when my team is fighting for the postseason?
Jeff R
September 5th, 2009
8:10 am
What did Dandy Don Meredith used to sing when a team had gotten to the point where a game was lost: “Turn out the lights, the party’s over…”
Sad to say, the party’s over for the Bravos. Can’t keep losing like they’ve been losing. They’re not going to back into post season.
Let the off-season chatter begin. Oh, and turn off those lights.
Braveheart
September 5th, 2009
8:16 am
Yeah, those frequent beheadings of managers have just worked out so swell in Philly and NYC. The longest sustained run of success either city has had is when they’ve run out two Cox like managers, Torre and Manuel, year after year, instead of hiring and firing managers at a moment’s notice for minimal short term gain, and long term detriment.
130on2
September 5th, 2009
8:19 am
Bravehart – “Goober retard” huh?? I’ll bet I can guess your political affiliation. Same ‘enlightened’ logic. By the way, dont you know ‘retard’ is not now PC??
curtis jones
September 5th, 2009
8:20 am
Let’s be honest, with the # 3 and # 4 hitters on pace to finish with 75-80 RBI, the Braves are about where they should be. We’ve got a couple of # 6 hitters batting in the 3 & 4 spots. And we don’t have any real 3 & 4 guys to replace them. It’s a slow, singles-hitting team.
And Kenshin Kawakami is now the highest-paid mop-up man in the history of baseball, while Derek “FlopSweat” Lowe is the most overpaid “ace.”
Ebenezer Snerdberg
September 5th, 2009
8:20 am
Then again, Dandy Don holds the record for most fumbles in a game. 14 I think it was. I could be wrong .Probably am,but it was a bunch. I luv the guy anyway, Feetball ain’t the same W/O Dandy,Howard and Frank!
My fav was when Howard Cowbell would rattle off a scad of stats about some player and Don would come back,”UH…yeah Howard!”
Braveheart Huh?
September 5th, 2009
8:20 am
Braveheart
September 5th, 2009
8:16 am
“Yeah, those frequent beheadings of managers have just worked out so swell in Philly and NYC. The longest sustained run of success either city has had is when they’ve run out two Cox like managers, Torre and Manuel, year after year, instead of hiring and firing managers at a moment’s notice for minimal short term gain, and long term detriment.”
So your logic is that if there is finally one managerial change after almost 2 decades that it is a “frequent beheading?”
Braveheart, your logic defies logic.
njbraves
September 5th, 2009
8:22 am
Doc Holiday…your 12:37am post has to be the dumbest thing I’ve seen in a a while. You honestly believe this team is going to go into next season with Prado as our 3 hitter??? NEWSFLASH…Chipper is still better than Prado. NEWSFLASH #2..Now that pitchers now how to pitch Martin, he sin’t everyone’s savior anymore, he’s just a mediocre ballplayer.
Ebenezer Snerdberg
September 5th, 2009
8:22 am
Oh,yeah,I fergot! ‘ Member the night Howard was drunker than a bicycle? Hotdamn,that was funny!
Braveheart
September 5th, 2009
8:22 am
You’ve been sued or criminal charges have been brought against you. To hear some of you, you’d choose the law firm of Conrad, Logan, Nunez and Carlyle over the firm of Soriano, Gonzalez, Moylan, O’Flaherty, Medlen, Johnson and Norton. With your money and life on the line, you ain’t trusting the scrubby law firm just like a manager ain’t trusting his scrubby group of relievers and pinch hitters
Ebenezer Snerdberg
September 5th, 2009
8:24 am
NYC,Okeh! Philly,MMMMMMMM,let me check those standin’s agin!
130on2
September 5th, 2009
8:30 am
Bravehart – Compared to you, I have to admit Cox looks really really good. As best I can tell, if you had your way Soriano, Gonzales, Moylan, O’Flarity and Medlin would pitch every game and Norton and Johnson would do all of the hitting. You probably would win the first game, but 1-161 is not a very good record.
Braveheart
September 5th, 2009
8:35 am
Blood in the water. You fire Cox, hire some other dude, the results ain’t gonna be much different so you fire that guy after a few years, hire some other guy who doesn’t give much better results and you fire that guy after a few years, hire some other dude and the results there ain’t all that great either, so you fire him, and on and on and on. Firings beget more firings until eventually you realize you should’ve just stuck with the dude you had because the results never changed much in the short term, and long term your organization has looked like a chaotic mess. Thus, why you see teams often bringing guys like Bill Walsh, Bill Snyder, Joe Gibbs, Marv Levy back into the fold years after they left the organization because the franchise or program realizes how good they had it while that guy was there and are trying to recapture what they once lost. Even Cox himself was brought back to the Braves by Ted a generation ago for the very same reason. Alabama has had 9 different head coaches since Bear Bryant died 27 years ago. To what benefit were the firings and change for the sake of change?
HoCoJo
September 5th, 2009
8:38 am
2009 Atlanta Braves – Best Medicore Team in MLB!
Braveheart
September 5th, 2009
8:43 am
13ooon2, your post is not even worthy of a response. Demonstrate some intelligence and I’ll respond to you.
McFann O
September 5th, 2009
8:44 am
.3…4…5…this is
gettingreally hard to bear, folks…130on2
September 5th, 2009
8:49 am
Bravehart – To tell you the truth I must not have any intelligence. Otherwise, I would not be responding to you. Just go live in your little world wherever that is. I won’t be ‘bothering’ you any more.
Ebenezer Snerdberg
September 5th, 2009
8:53 am
Yogi said:
Managers are hired to be fired! Okeh,even Casey,Leo(bunch)and Tommy Lasagna(should”ve been,what a foul mouth)
My # has always been ‘8′ He is my hero. I was a catcher in my youth! I switch hit which is probably the onliest reason coach kep me ’round so long!
Braveheart
September 5th, 2009
8:54 am
Everything was gonna get better for the Dolphins when they let the old washed up fool Don Shula leave. They only went 89-70 with four trips to the playoffs in his last ten seasons, hadn’t won a Super Bowl in 23 years, had a record barely over .500 in the postseason.
5 head coaches over the next 12 seasons, a 97-95 record, with only 5 playoff berths, no Super Bowl victories, culminating in a 1-15 season in 2007.
What was gained by nudging Shula out?
HoCoJo
September 5th, 2009
9:03 am
ES a switch hitter, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
McFann O
September 5th, 2009
9:06 am
BMac is 3-4 with a homer, a double, and 4 RBI lifetime against Kip Wells.
Recipe for success!‘Nother 0-fer coming up…?DMac
September 5th, 2009
9:07 am
DOB when are you just going to say it? Bobby Cox is making idiotic managerial decisions! You dance all around it by saying that you were “surprised” at Medlen being called on to pitch. Just SAY IT… SAAAY IT!!!
Sam Jonas
September 5th, 2009
9:09 am
A former Atlantan and still Braves fan, I am now in Denver. The Rockies are great (though still root Braves, head to head) and shine in one area where the Braves have gone wrong this season. The Rox have made several deft moves in July and August, including picking up Jason Giambi off the wire. Results? Last night, Giambi delivered his second winning hit in the bottom of the 8th in one week. SECOND! Where were those moves by Shuerholz (sp?) and Wren? The Braves used to be famous for the late season addition, but this year, squat. Everybody’s building their teams, but the Braves sit tight, and wither in the stretch.
Ritchie from Scotland
September 5th, 2009
9:12 am
I will be very surprised, pleasantly obviously, if we make it to the playoffs now. We have looked pretty terrible the last couple of games and Escobar getting hurt moves that nail further into the coffin. It’s not quite nailed shut yet, but unless we can go on an immediate winning streak and something happens to the Rockies and Giants, the hammer will fall shortly.
McFann O
September 5th, 2009
9:25 am
Refresh?
McFann O
September 5th, 2009
9:25 am
Nope…guess not.