For the past 20 years, since the start of our run, Florida has done more, with less payroll, than any team in the majors. THAT, my friends, is coaching and managing.
Blackbird, I partially disagree; their 1997 title was bought in a free agent spending spree. Their 2003 title was coaching, managing, and player development.
August 31st, 2009
8:48 pm
For the past 20 years, since the start of our run, Florida has done more, with less payroll, than any team in the majors. THAT, my friends, is coaching and managing
“For the past 20 years, since the start of our run, Florida has done more, with less payroll, than any team in the majors. THAT, my friends, is coaching and managing.”
Is it really though? I would give those drafting most of the credit. Their scouts are getting them some real good talent. Doesn’t matter the price, if you got good talent you will usually find yourself winning.
I would say that in spite of how badly he lost it in the 6th inning of his last start, Kawakami is still a pretty damn good pitcher.
But you know what? It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter if Huddy comes back and is the second coming of Christy Mathewson (he was a pitcher, right?). These guys can’t hit.
They may hit a couple of homeruns here and there and they may even beat a guy like Cliff Lee every once in a while but if you can’t put together a winning streak together with Lowe, Jurrjens, Vasquez, Hanson and Kawakami or just win consistently… you suck.
I don’t know what you mean by URGENCY, and Jake, new draftees still need coaching. How many games can we win with a lineup laced with .150 hitters, getting 1 hit in 6 innings. Tonight MAY turn out to be the exception!
once again…..nobody has been used from the bench yet…and they just said GREG ‘I GOT NAKED PICS OF COX’ NORTON is on deck….WTF!!! why??? put in ANYONE but Norton….why stop this rally now?? I don’t understand this BS…Norton EVERY game???
This goes back to an earlier post I had. Braves had their number 5 on the mound and the marlins their ace who was dealing. They scored 1 run for him. They are the ones who should have been mad that they didn’t score more for their ace. If you are the marlins this is a game you have to win, if you are the braves this is a game you could steal. Great job by KK tonight. Once again the starting pitching getting it done. I mean imagine if we had a true number 5 guy. Don’t think we would have even been in this game at this point.
Ok…CAROL…DOB…I ask this EVERY NIGHT just about…PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ask Bobby why he uses Greg Norton EVERY GAME to pinch hit when there are other more capable players on the bench? And then follow up with, how long will you keep trotting him out there? why not call up someone from gwinnett to pinch hit instead..PLEASE ask him that…PLEASE!
Einstein said, “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” Therefore, I say, Bobby Cox is insane.”
How many more times are we going to have to watch Norton hit again? I mean, dangit, does Norton have some compromising photos of Cox or something that he is threatening to release?
It is time for this man to go! Let’s face it, folks, Norton is a modern day Charlie Liebrandt…of Dan Kolb…or a HOST of other players that shouldn’t even have been in the major leagues that this idiot keeps turning to TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME when the game is on the line.
Oh, and is it just me, but hasn’t Cox usually already signed his extension by this time every year? Maybe Frank Wren is going to show him the door too. We can only hope!
With “Ice Cold”s” surgery on his wrist, and no winter ball, I think we can assume he’s off the radar for ‘10 – which means that Church might be signed. McLouth already under contract. GA will likley go someplace else – AL as a DH. So, B’s will be shopping for a GA-replacement since JH will likely not be called up until mid-season. In this regard, they might consider someone who can actually run.
Infante needs to be offered at least a 3-year deal. He’s earned it.
Thats the point i’m trying to make. He’s been a number 5 most of the year on this team not because he is bad but because our rotation is just that deep. Yet people still complain about the guy. Got to be the best number 5 pitcher in the league, better than a lot of teams 3 and 4 pitchers.
Einstein said, “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” Therefore, I say, Bobby Cox is insane.”
Einstein never said that. That is not the definition of insanity. The only person who ever said it was is a romance novelist. Guess we know what kind of books you like to read.
1,306 comments Add your comment
Rafael
August 31st, 2009
8:44 pm
Cassidy is hot!
Chong
August 31st, 2009
8:45 pm
McFann, you’re welcome…and props to you for saying thanks
bravefaninok
August 31st, 2009
8:45 pm
KK is pitchin a heck of a game
Shamus Thacker
August 31st, 2009
8:45 pm
This entirely self-motivated team don’t seem too motivated at the moment..
Vinings Jim
August 31st, 2009
8:46 pm
Chipper su…good job!
Eddie Haskell
August 31st, 2009
8:46 pm
Only 75 pitches for KK thru 6.
SRF
August 31st, 2009
8:46 pm
nice job by chipper
Blackbird
August 31st, 2009
8:48 pm
For the past 20 years, since the start of our run, Florida has done more, with less payroll, than any team in the majors. THAT, my friends, is coaching and managing.
Pendleton
August 31st, 2009
8:50 pm
Look, our guys can get 9 runs every fifth game, so what if they only get none or one the other 4? The AVERAGE is still good!
Firearm
August 31st, 2009
8:50 pm
Blackbird, I partially disagree; their 1997 title was bought in a free agent spending spree. Their 2003 title was coaching, managing, and player development.
Chong
August 31st, 2009
8:51 pm
Blackbird
August 31st, 2009
8:48 pm
For the past 20 years, since the start of our run, Florida has done more, with less payroll, than any team in the majors. THAT, my friends, is coaching and managing
Or is it just a sense of URGENCY.
Rodney Derrick
August 31st, 2009
8:51 pm
Baltimore fans are even cheering for Pettitte
Blackbird
August 31st, 2009
8:52 pm
Firearm, 97 might have been bought, but let’s forget the other 18 years and talk ‘09.
Vinings Jim
August 31st, 2009
8:52 pm
Way to turn on the speed, Chipper! (RHR – I’m trying)
Jake W.
August 31st, 2009
8:53 pm
“For the past 20 years, since the start of our run, Florida has done more, with less payroll, than any team in the majors. THAT, my friends, is coaching and managing.”
Is it really though? I would give those drafting most of the credit. Their scouts are getting them some real good talent. Doesn’t matter the price, if you got good talent you will usually find yourself winning.
RHR
August 31st, 2009
8:53 pm
BALLGAME!
Vinings Jim
August 31st, 2009
8:53 pm
OMAR!!!!!!
Rob from SC
August 31st, 2009
8:53 pm
how did that happen
tampabrave
August 31st, 2009
8:53 pm
YEAAAAAA OMAR!!!
Pendleton
August 31st, 2009
8:54 pm
Somebody bring me a cheeseburger!!
McFann :Ô:
August 31st, 2009
8:54 pm
Whoo-hoo!! Waytago, Omar!!
Let’s go, ssoR!!
Mitchell
August 31st, 2009
8:54 pm
I would say that in spite of how badly he lost it in the 6th inning of his last start, Kawakami is still a pretty damn good pitcher.
But you know what? It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter if Huddy comes back and is the second coming of Christy Mathewson (he was a pitcher, right?). These guys can’t hit.
They may hit a couple of homeruns here and there and they may even beat a guy like Cliff Lee every once in a while but if you can’t put together a winning streak together with Lowe, Jurrjens, Vasquez, Hanson and Kawakami or just win consistently… you suck.
Not you Omar.
FEAR
August 31st, 2009
8:54 pm
YOU GOTTA BE $HITTING ME!
Blackbird
August 31st, 2009
8:54 pm
Holy mother of God!
BIOMASS
August 31st, 2009
8:54 pm
Nice of Bobbie to play Omar tonight.
ChurchMan
August 31st, 2009
8:54 pm
get KK out before he has a meltdown inning
Chong
August 31st, 2009
8:55 pm
Where are the whiny losers who gave up on the Braves now? Probably back in grannies basement sucking their thumbs.
TnBrian
August 31st, 2009
8:55 pm
All that working KK made Johnson do in his last at bat caught up with him.
groundfog
August 31st, 2009
8:55 pm
Norton on deck!!!!
McFann :Ô:
August 31st, 2009
8:55 pm
Chong–
Props to you for answering me and for giving me props!
RHR
August 31st, 2009
8:55 pm
I can see why Bobby wanted Gorecki in CF instead of Omar. Oh wait…
Vinings Jim
August 31st, 2009
8:56 pm
Rossy!
tampabrave
August 31st, 2009
8:56 pm
how bout them 2 out bravos
Canadaian braves fan
August 31st, 2009
8:56 pm
keep bitching folks, its working
McFann :Ô:
August 31st, 2009
8:56 pm
Atta way, ssoR!!
TnBrian
August 31st, 2009
8:56 pm
MAN, and KK deserves this win.
Rob from SC
August 31st, 2009
8:56 pm
why can’t we beat the crap pitchers?
Firearm
August 31st, 2009
8:57 pm
Great job, Kenshin. Hopefully the Braves can hold onto the lead for you.
Blackbird
August 31st, 2009
8:57 pm
I don’t know what you mean by URGENCY, and Jake, new draftees still need coaching. How many games can we win with a lineup laced with .150 hitters, getting 1 hit in 6 innings. Tonight MAY turn out to be the exception!
jackets77
August 31st, 2009
8:58 pm
once again…..nobody has been used from the bench yet…and they just said GREG ‘I GOT NAKED PICS OF COX’ NORTON is on deck….WTF!!! why??? put in ANYONE but Norton….why stop this rally now?? I don’t understand this BS…Norton EVERY game???
Soph
August 31st, 2009
8:58 pm
Chipper!
Esco!
Omar!
Rossy!
Yayyyyy! Scoring runs is fun.
Rafael
August 31st, 2009
8:59 pm
Seriously, Norton? KK is better off hitting.
jackets77
August 31st, 2009
8:59 pm
why not use KJ here?????WTF!!
cabravesfan
August 31st, 2009
8:59 pm
Looks like I am a good luck charm- I get home, the no hitter gets broken up and the Braves take the lead…coincidence? I think not
Blackbird
August 31st, 2009
8:59 pm
’scuse me, Norton’s up, I should have said .138, not .150!
Cheese
August 31st, 2009
9:00 pm
We’ll KK has done it again, put up against the best the marlins have to offer gives up 1run on 6 hits thru 6 innings damn amazing the difference
Rodney Derrick
August 31st, 2009
9:00 pm
We can always hope with Norton, but the positive thing is the odds favor Diaz leading off the eighth
jackets77
August 31st, 2009
9:00 pm
HELL…keep KK in the game just to hit….
bigdave
August 31st, 2009
9:00 pm
sucks.
groundfog
August 31st, 2009
9:00 pm
ugh Norton!
SRF
August 31st, 2009
9:00 pm
NORTON !!!!
bravefaninok
August 31st, 2009
9:00 pm
Somebody needs to tell chipper just stop trying to hit for power……bring back the singles hitter he was last year
Rafael
August 31st, 2009
9:01 pm
That’s a typical Norton at bat. It’s either a walk or a strike out. Did we expect a different result?
Cheese
August 31st, 2009
9:01 pm
We’ll Norton gives us his usual strikeout I would say better luck next time but I sincerely hope their isn’t a next time
Bravesfan1984
August 31st, 2009
9:01 pm
how much longer do we have to continue watching the so-called PH specialist????????
Blackbird
August 31st, 2009
9:01 pm
OK, he was hitting .138 BEFORE striking out.
Chong
August 31st, 2009
9:01 pm
bigdave…your 9:00 post…TMI
BIOMASS
August 31st, 2009
9:01 pm
Bobby loves guys like Norton. These inept journeymen remind him of himself.
Jake W.
August 31st, 2009
9:02 pm
This goes back to an earlier post I had. Braves had their number 5 on the mound and the marlins their ace who was dealing. They scored 1 run for him. They are the ones who should have been mad that they didn’t score more for their ace. If you are the marlins this is a game you have to win, if you are the braves this is a game you could steal. Great job by KK tonight. Once again the starting pitching getting it done. I mean imagine if we had a true number 5 guy. Don’t think we would have even been in this game at this point.
jackets77
August 31st, 2009
9:02 pm
Ok…CAROL…DOB…I ask this EVERY NIGHT just about…PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ask Bobby why he uses Greg Norton EVERY GAME to pinch hit when there are other more capable players on the bench? And then follow up with, how long will you keep trotting him out there? why not call up someone from gwinnett to pinch hit instead..PLEASE ask him that…PLEASE!
Vinings Jim
August 31st, 2009
9:02 pm
cabravesfan – what was it you told me earlier about dreaming?
groundfog
August 31st, 2009
9:02 pm
Norton is saving it for a game winning situation-relax
ChurchMan
August 31st, 2009
9:03 pm
I’m still positive that even with the callups, Norton will still be getting more opportunities than any of them.
tampabrave
August 31st, 2009
9:03 pm
Where was that yesterday…
RHR
August 31st, 2009
9:03 pm
Go ‘head Loaf
Soph
August 31st, 2009
9:03 pm
Make up catch by Loafy!
Jake W.
August 31st, 2009
9:03 pm
GA brought his glove tonight.
R Rob
August 31st, 2009
9:03 pm
Nawton does it again.Nose picker thinks, we need to end this inning now! “Norton, grab a bat!”
groundfog
August 31st, 2009
9:03 pm
Garret “tippy toes” Anderson
MurphyRules
August 31st, 2009
9:03 pm
Who is THAT playing left field?
keylargo
August 31st, 2009
9:03 pm
Hooray GA!
Chong
August 31st, 2009
9:03 pm
Loaf bringing the A game tonight
Rodney Derrick
August 31st, 2009
9:04 pm
Two great ones by Turbo tonight. You have to believe. Has to make ESPN and MLB Plays
SRF
August 31st, 2009
9:04 pm
Seriously – Norton should just find the biggest bat that is legal and should just hold it out over the
plate and hope a pitcher hits it.
bravefaninok
August 31st, 2009
9:05 pm
Jake W.
KK (the no.5 pitcher for the braves)has beaten alot of no1 pitchers this year..
he would be a no.2 or 3 on most teams….
groundfog
August 31st, 2009
9:06 pm
groundballs Moylan geez
Virginia Ranger
August 31st, 2009
9:06 pm
Well Norton will not bat again this month, ergo he should be getting a hit in the nest 30 at bats or days which ever comes first.
RCinATL
August 31st, 2009
9:06 pm
Einstein said, “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” Therefore, I say, Bobby Cox is insane.”
How many more times are we going to have to watch Norton hit again? I mean, dangit, does Norton have some compromising photos of Cox or something that he is threatening to release?
It is time for this man to go! Let’s face it, folks, Norton is a modern day Charlie Liebrandt…of Dan Kolb…or a HOST of other players that shouldn’t even have been in the major leagues that this idiot keeps turning to TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME when the game is on the line.
Oh, and is it just me, but hasn’t Cox usually already signed his extension by this time every year? Maybe Frank Wren is going to show him the door too. We can only hope!
groundfog
August 31st, 2009
9:07 pm
Norton-Mr. September
cabravesfan
August 31st, 2009
9:07 pm
VJ-
hey, if it’s working…
RHR
August 31st, 2009
9:07 pm
why can’t we beat the crap pitchers?
Wait…you don’t think Johnson is a crap pitcher? I’m shocked.
Virginia Ranger
August 31st, 2009
9:07 pm
Moylan did not have it tonight, and unbelievably Boobie yanks him. Must be the big crowds at LSS that make Boobie think straight
Jim
August 31st, 2009
9:07 pm
With “Ice Cold”s” surgery on his wrist, and no winter ball, I think we can assume he’s off the radar for ‘10 – which means that Church might be signed. McLouth already under contract. GA will likley go someplace else – AL as a DH. So, B’s will be shopping for a GA-replacement since JH will likely not be called up until mid-season. In this regard, they might consider someone who can actually run.
Infante needs to be offered at least a 3-year deal. He’s earned it.
atlwolf
August 31st, 2009
9:08 pm
Don’t worry, now Norton won’t be available to choke in the late innings.
Keeping It Real
August 31st, 2009
9:08 pm
Jake W.
Your post makes good sense. Hope the Braves can capitalize for once.
Mitchell
August 31st, 2009
9:09 pm
Come on Eric.
Don’t blow it and them blame it on the ump.
keylargo
August 31st, 2009
9:09 pm
Ok…CAROL…DOB…I ask this EVERY NIGHT just about…PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ask Bobby why he uses Greg Norton EVERY GAME Jackets77
I wish you would buy a ticket and ask BC yourself. I’m tired of hearing you whine.
The A Bomb
August 31st, 2009
9:09 pm
Obviously, we’ve found the way to unlock the Godzilla that is CY KAWAKAMI. . .
No matter who he’s facing, the interpreter just needs to tell him he’s facing either. . .
(a) the ace of their staff
(b) an all-time leader in (fill in the category)
(c) a future Hall of Famer
Then, no worries. If we do that he’ll win 25 next year. No problem.
Jake W.
August 31st, 2009
9:09 pm
bravefaninok
Thats the point i’m trying to make. He’s been a number 5 most of the year on this team not because he is bad but because our rotation is just that deep. Yet people still complain about the guy. Got to be the best number 5 pitcher in the league, better than a lot of teams 3 and 4 pitchers.
RHR
August 31st, 2009
9:09 pm
Einstein said, “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” Therefore, I say, Bobby Cox is insane.”
Einstein never said that. That is not the definition of insanity. The only person who ever said it was is a romance novelist. Guess we know what kind of books you like to read.
jeffrey d
August 31st, 2009
9:09 pm
Question – if Norton isn’t released by tomorrow, doesn’t that mean he’ll be on the postseason roster, if we make it?
RHR
August 31st, 2009
9:10 pm
I mean, that really bugs the crap out of me.
jackets77
August 31st, 2009
9:10 pm
I really hope one of our AJC writers ask Cox about Norton….I don’t see how/why that question is not been asked yet…
Choppinmama
August 31st, 2009
9:10 pm
Woo-hoo, Loaf swooped out on that one, didn’t he?
Necromancer: We may have to go with Big Mama for Carrol. Mama is getting into my territory
jeffrey d
August 31st, 2009
9:11 pm
I really hope one of our AJC writers ask Cox about Norton….I don’t see how/why that question is not been asked yet…
That is if TMZ doesn’t first get ahold of whatever risque pics of Bobby Norton has
RHR
August 31st, 2009
9:12 pm
Did I give props to KK earlier? If not, I meant to. Regardless of the outcome, KK got it done tonight.
jeffrey d
August 31st, 2009
9:12 pm
Big Mama? I thought we all decided on “Crusher” for Carroll’s nickname?
And by “we all” I mean me and someone else.
McFann :Ô:
August 31st, 2009
9:13 pm
Choppinmama We may have to go with Big Mama for Carrol. Mama is getting into my territory
Notice I never said whether or not I was for that nickname…
Soph
August 31st, 2009
9:14 pm
MattE gets hit again.
Roman Gal
August 31st, 2009
9:14 pm
Matty was just asking for it.