4:03 pm August 30, 2009, by David O'Brien
NO MORE BOBBY
August 31st, 200912:16 pm
If we miss the wild card by one game, which screw up stands out as “the one” that got away?
To me the blown game by Gonzo in Washington after we were riding high sweeping the Phillies. Still makes me cringe thinking about how wild he was and Bobby just sat there watching.
Lew- Many of those people who got taken ignored one of the oldest rules in the book. If it seems like it’s too good to be true, it probably is. He was returning 12% in a 5% market. Nobody is that smart. Well maybe Paul Lentz is, but I’m just talking about us mere mortals.
August 31st, 200912:17 pm
and down the stretch they go= where just the stretch
jones too old cox too old wren too stupid
get rid of the old +++++ and let’s go back to winning.
August 31st, 200912:21 pm
Prado could’ve made that catch by Chipper, but his arm might have been snapped in two by the runner. Just from what I saw, if Chipper thought Prado should’ve made that play then he really has ‘huntin on the mind’ and isn’t focused on baseball.
August 31st, 200912:24 pm
My guess is this is the only Braves that will be playing in October……
Anders if anyone is guaranteeing you a rate of return greater than the market average then it is a SCAM. Simple as that.
August 31st, 200912:27 pm
I wonder what the topic of today’s blog will be. Maybe DOB would like to throw Yuni in a slump today?
August 31st, 200912:28 pm
“Did any of you guys hear that flushing sound last night? That was the Braves’ post season chances going down the toilet. That makes two series in a row where we have beat you. We have definately seperated the men from the boys in the NL East.”
OMG you mean a phillies team at full strength beating a lesser braves team not at full strength by 1 run has finally ended all playoff hopes we have. You know what, I gotta say you phillies fans keep showing me how knowledgeable you are of the game. Especially if you seem to think that right now at our present state the braves even posed a serious threat to you. I don’t know, seems to me you would be more worried about what the Cards, Dodgers, Rockies or Giants are doing.
August 31st, 200912:31 pm
jake: you’re dillusional. You have no chance of making the post season. Unless you real off a couple weeks of undefeated baseball and the rockies and giants pull off a major choke job.
There was some priceless stuff on the blog last night. I wonder who is going to change their name to “You are all Chop Chop apologists”.
August 31st, 200912:32 pm
Well maybe Paul Lentz is, but I’m just talking about us mere mortals.
If I could just touch the hem of his khaki shorts, then maybe some of his greatness could rub off on me.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 31st, 200912:35 pm
We’re 3 1/2 games out of a play-off spot…Its still not the end of the world…
We’ll be alright…
That McCann double play last night was another killer last night
If we miss the wild card by one game, which screw up stands out as “the one” that got away?
how about the 3rd game of the season where the braves bullpen imploded and walked in like 4 runs vs the philles? if we miss by one game, that one i will think about…so early in the season, too…they all count….
August 31st, 200912:36 pm
….Easy to make this statement after you’ve signed a 3 year contract. – Mid Town Joe
Or after you’ve finally won your batting title. I mean, what else is there……right?
Man oh man.
BMac is not a cleanup hitter. Everybody but Blobby Clux knows that! Daslied, I hope you’re right about Timmer and the Broke D list thig. We need his maturity if nuthin’ else in this thingie!
Rock On......the denizen formerly known as Dadgum
August 31st, 200912:38 pm
Lew…. I guess enough answers on your Hudson roster spot but another thought remains.
If memory serves me, rosters go to 30 for the post-season. Should the Braves sneak in will Hudson be put on the 30-man? Cox said he is a starter only which would mean 2 of our starters would be left off a 3-4 starter playoff rotation. I say Hudson would have to be lights out in Sept. to be added to a playoff roster or be sent to the pen with KK if added. Obviously gotta make the playoffs first.
August 31st, 200912:39 pm
with apologies to Braveheart, only real men wear khaki. No khakiness in Dentz, only props-envy.
August 31st, 200912:41 pm
BMac is not a cleanup hitter. Everybody but Blobby Clux knows that!
No, he’s not a cleanup hitter. But people talk like he’s a 7 or 8 Reid Gorecki hitter. Brian McCann is a middle-of-the lineup bat, and in a lineup without a true cleanup hitter, he’s doing alright. I’d rather see LaRoche at cleanup, but some of you are talking like McCann’s hitting like Greg Norton.
August 31st, 200912:42 pm
Isn’t Timmer and the Broke B a gangster rap group?
PHIL GARNER FOR NEXT BRAVES MANAGER!!!!
August 31st, 200912:43 pm
You prove my point once again, you philly fans, can’t get anything by you. My post said:
“OMG you mean a phillies team at full strength beating a lesser braves team not at full strength by 1 run has finally ended all playoff hopes we have. You know what, I gotta say you phillies fans keep showing me how knowledgeable you are of the game. Especially if you seem to think that right now at our present state the braves even posed a serious threat to you. I don’t know, seems to me you would be more worried about what the Cards, Dodgers, Rockies or Giants are doing.”
And you responded:
“jake: you’re dillusional. You have no chance of making the post season. Unless you real off a couple weeks of undefeated baseball and the rockies and giants pull off a major choke job.”
I don’t know, maybe someone else can tell me where I was being so dillusional in that post because I can’t seem to find it. Maybe you’re the dillusional one.
Robert (Chipper Is The Best)
August 31st, 200912:50 pm
Phil Garner would actually be an excellent choice as manager. He is a hardnosed tough guy who is a “player’s manager” but at the same time isn’t afraid to get in somebody’a ass whether they be a veteran or not.
Is there a possible scenario that would render Ed Norton NOT eligible for post-season? That’s the one I wanna hear!
Somebody should spike his Gatorade with roids and blow the whistle.
Brian the Brain
There’s a chance of there being a 3 or 4 team playoff for the NL wildcard. That would be wild.
August 31st, 200912:51 pm
The double by Ruiz was rightly chnged from an error to a double. You won’t find me defending GA often, but that play was no error. GA was running hard (believe it or not)and was outstretched near the wall when the ball went off the webbing. I’m surprised the Philly scorer gave him an “E” initially.
August 31st, 200912:52 pm
so…..why has Phil Garner been unemployed for so long if he has all those qualities mentioned?
August 31st, 200912:53 pm
Hey, Garner ain’t a bad idea.
August 31st, 200912:56 pm
August 31st, 2009
so…..why has Phil Garner been unemployed for so long if he has all those qualities mentioned?
Well, you’ve got me there Baba. Maybe he’s been waiting for the Braves job. lol
oh and WTF with Greg Norton’s AB with 2 outs in the 9th????
Nice move there Booby…Why not Kelly??? who may pop one out of the park…
August 31st, 200912:59 pm
Game that got away agreed is the Nationals on July 4th riding a 5 game win streak. We take a 3-0 lead and runners on 1st and 2nd no outs. Bobby elects not to play small ball with Escobar and 6-4-3 doubleplay and bullpen then implodes. Ouch.
August 31st, 20091:00 pm
I don’t think it was an error either. Maybe if you have a younger and faster body out there they get to it easily. Anderson didn’t misplay that ball he just didn’t get there.
August 31st, 20091:02 pm
If we miss the wild card by one game, which screw up stands out as “the one” that got away?….
Has to be the one at the beginning of the season vs the phils and the one vs colorado before the break. That would be a 3 game swing in both wild card and nl east.
August 31st, 20091:06 pm
I have always defended bobby cox. If you look at all my posts I think that he is a great manager but WHY o WHY is Greg Norton still getting at bats at all, and especially with the game on the line. The pitchers have a better chance of getting a hit than him. PLEASE no more G Norton. I know he was a good pinch hitter last year but he is an automatic out and has been for a year. Do you know the definition of stupidity. Doing the same thing and expecting different results.
August 31st, 20091:12 pm
with apologies to Braveheart, only real men wear khaki. No khakiness in Dentz, only props-envy. ncscoots
August 31st, 20091:14 pm
NS-Steve: oh and WTF with Greg Norton’s AB with 2 outs in the 9th????”"
Steve, I’m not gonna be quite so specific. WTF with Greg Norton’s AB in ANY game!? His performance, this year, is as bad as any I’ve ever seen. YET, in crucial spots, he’s STILL being used. You’re right! WTF!!??
August 31st, 20091:17 pm
Vazquez is a much better hitter at this point than Norton.
August 31st, 20091:19 pm
A sack of diapers is a much better hitter at this point than Norton.
August 31st, 20091:20 pm
Prado should have caught the ball!! Prado was not positioned properly to catch the ball.
Anderson should have caught the fly ball – any other left fielder catches that.
August 31st, 20091:24 pm
I stand corrected jeffrey d. LOL
August 31st, 20091:29 pm
Norton is like Helen Keller on acid.
“Anderson should have caught the fly ball – any other left fielder catches that.”
Well thats where you would be wrong. Anderson isn’t any other left fielder, not at this stage in his career.
August 31st, 20091:31 pm
Why, if everyone was so excited that Atlanta was 3.5 out on Sunday morning, is everyone now pissed that Atlanta is 3.5 out on Monday morning? Of course, I guess we were 3.5 on Saturday morning and people were pissed. So, then, tomorrow morning if we’re 3.5 out people will be excited again?
August 31st, 20091:32 pm
Bobby said “he hit some balls hard”
notice he didn’t say whose balls though.
I’ll get excited if we can win a first game of a series…..again.
August 31st, 20091:36 pm
That was not a routine play for Anderson- that’s why it was a double.
August 31st, 20091:39 pm
3.5 games is really closer to 5 or 6 than it is to 3.5. You have two teams in front of you. The likelihood that they both fall on their faces 4 games in a row is absurd Also, they play each other 3 more times, which means there is a combo of 3 games that the Braves can’t gain on both the leaders.
August 31st, 20091:43 pm
They don’t need to lose on the same day, or 4 games in succession.
August 31st, 20091:44 pm
That’s some odd logic, MFin. One team ahead, two teams ahead – there’s only one standard to reach. They’ve got to gain 1 game for every 9 played – not that difficult in theory. Can they do it? Don’t know. Is it possible? Absolutely. Nobody here though SF would sweep the Rockies, either.
August 31st, 20091:45 pm
3.5 games is really closer to 5 or 6 than it is to 3.5.
what? no, tied for third 3.5 games back is tied for third 3.5 games back.
18 Wheels of Love
OK let me be the first to say that tonight’s series with the Marlins is the biggest series yet…must sweep or take 2 out of 3!
How many times have you heard that statement about our upcoming series? Seems like every new series we say that.
August 31st, 20091:46 pm
RemoW, I honestly couldn’t tell. I knew it was going to be a close play and I was just watching the ump waiting for the all when I saw the ball go sailing by. I wasn’t even looking at Prado…then afterward when they said it was Prado I was like WTF was Roachy? In any case, I don’t think the guy woulda been out even if Prado had caught the ball, the runner was ON him when Chipper made the throw.
August 31st, 20091:51 pm
I dare someone to facebook friend Lentz.
Does Pendleton actually get paid for what he “does”? Seems like the only thing he is actually trying to accomplish is to develop a bigger gut than Cox. A “hitting coach” should be working to improve “hitting”. Ergo, he SUCKS at his job.
August 31st, 20091:54 pm
Its a 4 gamer with the Marlins
August 31st, 20091:55 pm
How many of these vents were written by the denizens?
Hampton hurt again? Maybe the Astros should give Cash for Clunkers a call.
For sale: One Louisville Slugger bat, rarely used, no scuff marks. Contact Greg Norton.
Greg Norton at the plate to pinch hit with 2 out in the ninth. Talk about putting the “less” in hopeless.
Norton whiffs again. This has become a serial comedy.
What do Greg Norton and my grandmother have in common? They’re both old, and they don’t work much any more. But at least Granny can still make contact.
Some batters are home run or nothing. Norton is walk or nothing.
Do the math for the next series between those two though.
That 3 games series does odd things to the total.
Let’s just say the Braves are 3.5 back when SF plays Colorado….
One team goes 2-1 (Braves go 3-0 in their series) Braves are 2.5 games back, and 1.5 games back
Other team goes 2-1 (Braves go 3-0 in their series) Braves are 2.5 games back, and 1.5 games back
One team sweeps (Braves go 3-0 in their series) Braves are 3.5 games back, and .5 game back
Other team sweeps (Braves go 3-0 in their series) Braves are 3.5 games back, and .5 game back
And all those are if the Braves sweep. More than likely the Braves go 2-1.
One team goes 2-1 (Braves go 2-1 in their series) Braves are 3.5 games back, and 2.5 games back
Other team goes 2-1 (Braves go 2-1 in their series) Braves are 3.5 games back, and 2.5 games back
One team sweeps (Braves go 2-1 in their series) Braves are 4.5 games back, and 1.5 game back
Other team sweeps (Braves go 2-1 in their series) Braves are 4.5 games back, and 1.5 game back
August 31st, 20091:57 pm
Robert (August 31st, 2009 12:50 pm): “He is a hardnosed tough guy who . . . isn’t afraid to get in somebody’a ass whether they be a veteran or not.”
Are you sure that’s the image you wanted to invoke?
Rock On (August 31st, 2009 12:38 pm): “If memory serves me, rosters go to 30 for the post-season.”
I don’t know if your memory serves you or not, but playoff rosters are 25 men, not 30.
August 31st, 20091:58 pm
shamus, that’s an unfair analogy…i think on acid helen keller could accidently hit for better than a .138 average.
RHR – I don’t know if I can keep reading these vents. Some are hilarious, but some are just murderingly stupid and it gets me mad. Like “The Braves would be in first place if Hanson was called up earlier.” Yeah, okay…
I thought about it, but figured it wouldn’t be a good idea. He’d probably fill my wall with pages of crap and I’d actually have some of my friends unfriend me.
But looking at that picture, it looks like he’s in an office. And I thought he made his living playing poker?
"You all are Cox apologists"
I know a lot of you are mad about Norton. Norton’s a “great” pinch hitter and I know he’ll turn it around soon, we just have to be “patient”. I love Norton and he is a valuable asset off the bench because he’s a switch hitter.
DO YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN, IDIOT HOMERS?
You have to honestly think, what is going on inside the head of our bone-headed, idiotic manager when he puts Norton in the game? You have to play sarcastic games with yourself in order to rationalize Cox’s decision making. I thank Cox for all he’s done but it’s time for him to GO. Wren, you have shown your willingness to go against the majority. Please do it again so there is NO MORE BOBBY in 2010. Thanks.
Greg Norton: Pinch Walker Extraordinaire
August 31st, 20091:59 pm
Thus in a whole series with SF vs Colorado…you can only game 1 game on the leader, and that is if you sweep. True, it gets you closer to 2nd place in the Wild Card, but it gets the Braves, max, one game closer to the Wild Card leader, after a 3 games series, AND a Braves sweep.
That’s the logic behind “3.5 games being closer to 5 or 6″.
But what do I know? We can’t all be right 99% of the time.
August 31st, 20092:00 pm
August 31st, 20092:01 pm
I know a lot of you are mad about Norton. Norton’s a “great” pinch hitter and I know he’ll turn it around soon, we just have to be “patient”.
With the inappropriate use of quotes, does anybody else think that “You all are Cox apologists” could be Lentz? And why, for that matter, is his name in quotes?
to ‘No more Bobby’…if we miss the playoffs by one game, EVERY SINGLE GREG NORTON at bat would stand out..he has def cost us atleast a game, and probably more..
August 31st, 20092:06 pm
I’m just glad I didn’t waste my time making a facebook fan page for Chop Chop’s short reign as greatest armchair manager alive.
August 31st, 20092:07 pm
Just checked BMac’s stats to see how many DP’s he’s grounded into this year. Wow…not only is he bucking for a new career-high in K’s, he also appears to be headed for a new career-high in GIDP.
He’s got 15 this year, career-high is 19. What’s annoying is that heading into August, he only had 10–1 in April, and 3 each in May, June, and July.
Needs to get creaking on his doubles without the “play”…I mean, when I said last night that a wanted a “double”, I meant one of the hit-variety, not the twin-killing…
August 31st, 20092:11 pm
that situation is screwy, but all your predictions are based on the assumption that the giants and rockies are still tied for first, and that the braves are still 3.5 games back. there are plenty of opportunities for both the giants AND the rockies to lose in September.
MF – great! I’ll take picking up 1 game over a 3-game span. 29 more to pick up 2.5!
August 31st, 20092:13 pm
I think I might be on this blog too much.
I was doing the Sunday crossword puzzle a couple weeks ago, and the clue was “Chop ____.” What’s the first thing that comes to my mind? Chop Chop (the answer was Chop Suey). I didn’t think too much of it until yesterday’s puzzle….the clue was “Loaf at work.”
August 31st, 20092:14 pm
so norton walks a lot, i tell you what, for the league minimum (a half mil less than what the braves pay norton) ill stand with a bat on my shoulders and walk a bunch too.. in fact, i’ll up the ante and drop down a bunt every once in a while…i haven’t swung a bat in years but i think i can leg out a bunt at least 10 times in 65 ab’s… that’s better production than they are getting out of norton.
I would’ve been a FB fan of Chop Chop
August 31st, 20092:15 pm
the clue was “Loaf at work.”
Was the answer “Best Day Ever!” ?
I suppose so…it’s just weird how outfielders seem to catch a lot of “breaks” when it comes to charging errors. Infielders get charged errors on regular hits…I once saw a catcher get charged an error for missing a foul ball…
Or, ya know, maybe I’m just jealous that the Fillies’ catcher hit two doubles…
If memory serves me, rosters go to 30 for the post-season. Should the Braves sneak in will Hudson be put on the 30-man? RockOn/Dadgum
The 30 man roster huh? Like I said Every time you open your mouth you reveal something else you DON’T know about baseball.
There’s Dumb and Dumber, but you’re the DUMBEST person on this blog.
August 31st, 20092:17 pm
McFann – but with Brian’s catcher speed, a DP is not uncommon. 15 isn’t that bad. It’s not great, but it’s not terrible.
August 31st, 20092:21 pm
True that…I mean, that one guy on the Padres has 20-something…
I guess more what bugs me is that he’s hit into a ton lately…well, five DPs in 14 games isn’t like, a billion, but considering he had only 10 through his first 94 games, it seems like a lot.
I just miss the regular doubles…good, old fashion RBI doubles.
RHR – haha, I don’t know….haven’t gotten it yet. Sunday crosswords are huge and I usually work on them during breakfast through the week or maybe some after work. It’s four letters…I’ll keep you updated.
Isn’t everyone at least a little happy that we’re playing important games heading into September????
Compared to what we’ve seen the past 3 years…(no I’m not happy with mediocrity) but I’m still excited to watch Atlanta Braves baseball while we get ready to turn the calender.
That’s a positive…We still have a chance…
August 31st, 20092:23 pm
I’ll keep you updated on the crossword puzzle. What an exciting life
August 31st, 20092:24 pm
McFann Ô (August 31st, 2009 2:07 pm): “Just checked BMac’s stats to see how many DP’s he’s grounded into this year. Wow…not only is he bucking for a new career-high in K’s, he also appears to be headed for a new career-high in GIDP.”
No sweat, kid.
You know who are the top six in the ML record book for hitting into the most career double plays?
Cal Ripken (Jr), Hank Aaron, Carl Yastrzemski, Dave Winfield, Eddie Murray and Jim Rice.
jeffrey d It’s four letters…I’ll keep you updated.
What letter does it begin or end with…?
August 31st, 20092:25 pm
The remaining schedule seems to favor the Rockies and Braves. Both teams have 22 games remaining against teams under .500. The schedule does not seem to favor the Giants who have the most difficult remaining schedule with 16 games against teams over .500. I still say the Rockies pull it out. The Braves have not demonstrated that they have the ability recently to win important games or to beat up on teams under .500. The break down of the schedule is below.
The Rockies have 9 games remaining against teams over .500 and 22 against teams under .500.
The Giants have 16 games remaining against teams over .500 and 15 against teams under .500.
The Braves have 10 games remaining against teams over .500 and 22 games against teams under .500.
Good to know…
August 31st, 20092:26 pm
Why don’t you go and kiss Cox since you always seem to defend him? I know a place in Midtown, maybe you should go there to be around your kind, MEN. “HOMO”.
August 31st, 20092:28 pm
McFann- It’s not extraorinarily rare to see a catcher charged with an E on a missed foul pop. I score for a minor league team in Florida and this year I credited a batter with a Sac fly to the pitcher. Never seen it before that night.
August 31st, 20092:29 pm
Norton leads the leauge in pinch hit walks. WOW! What a great accomplishment! Norton for “10th man of the year” anyone?
August 31st, 20092:31 pm
with apologies to Braveheart, only real men wear khaki. No khakiness in Dentz, only props-envy. — ncscoots
That’s setting the bar high…. Fraternities and Dockers-wearers everywhere thank you.
August 31st, 20092:33 pm
Baba It’s not extraorinarily rare to see a catcher charged with an E on a missed foul pop.
Yeah, it prob’ly isn’t…it was the first and last time for me, but I haven’t been watching baseball for half as long as a lot of people…
I score for a minor league team in Florida and this year I credited a batter with a Sac fly to the pitcher. Never seen it before that night.
That is odd…about as odd as the time Pujols got 2 RBI on one sac fly.
August 31st, 20092:34 pm
The batter hit a foull pop by the 1st base dugout. P, C, and 1B chase after the ball. The pitcher reaches over the railing to catch it. The 3rd baseman forgets to cover home and the runner on 3rd scores.
August 31st, 20092:35 pm
F.Wren….just wondering….does the National League use the DH during the playoffs or just a regular 10-man roster?
Also just wondering….Were you born an as*hole or has it just come from years of perfecting your craft?
‘Scuse me, I wasn’t done with my post when I hit “submit”.
Um…that sac-fly was funny, though…don’t remember how it happened…guy on second was really fast, I s’posed.
August 31st, 20092:36 pm
Way to be a racist and an idiot Reed. (That was redundant wasn’t it?) Don’t recall Braves or Cubs having any players born in China on their roster.
Blog this is NO time to be eating posts. I’m trying to give “You all…” his comeuppance.
McFann – no letters yet (at least I don’t think so)
August 31st, 20092:37 pm
The only thing that worries me…is anyone remember Kawakami’s last start in Florida.
Don’t worry…I just cringed too.
Haha! That’s pretty funny! Almost like the time Manny Ramirez tried to score on a popup to Escobar. He was a dead duck at the plate!
jeffrey d: The power of the blog curse is so immense, we must weight such decisions carefully and consider all ramifications. We have considered expanding our reach and, for instance, writing about the unstoppable proliferation of reality shows and how successful they continue to be.
August 31st, 20092:38 pm
Ah, OK. I had a thought as to what the word might be…
August 31st, 20092:39 pm
Was Bong Chinese? Remember when Skip would say “there’s another hit off Bong”?
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