Barbara Walters- Is it true that you feel uncomfortable as the team leader
Chipper—- so wait your names Bar–Bra let me give you a hell ya on that!
BW—- Its Barbara Mr. Jones
CJ—- I love your 1st name but your last name Bra I wish
God never made them too hard to remove
BW—Larry my 1st name is Barbara last name Walters
CJ—Walters a good name my favorite movie character is Walter Sobchak
BW–let me interrupt u again could you just answer the question Mr. Jones
CJ— leadership? I lead in the bedroom
and in the deer stand thats where lead missy
BW–Ok next question… 16 errors?… Why?
CJ–Ill tell you why Bar, its that crazy denis Rodman wannabe
At SS he makes me nervous cussing in 6 languages always
Whistling me aint no dog you dont whistle at #10 ya hear me Bra?
BW-So what happened with the marriage in ‘95
CJ–Oh hell NO!! Bra im the leader in this interview and I aint answering
any questions……You really wanna know?
BW–Yes Mr Jones and the HOF voters want to know too
CJ–Well heck Bra thats all you had to say……Here is how it went
down, I was hungry and so i went to Hooters to get some food it all
started because I didnt pull out I didnt pull out of that TO GO parking
spot fast enough. See the waitress came to the car and its was cold
in October so i told her to get in she did and all I had was a $100 bill.
I was a rookie I wasnt rich like all these little punks these days I
needed change. She told me she couldnt make change and that the
restaurant was low on change as well. I told her that i had change in
my hotel room and it was a couple blocks away.She smiled and so we
left and I pulled up to the hotel I got out of the car to run up stairs she
wanted to come with because she had to P. Flip P upside down its
means b the F careful I wasnt. Anyway She came to the room and Maddog
came barging in. He was all talkin $hit and he bet me the wings I didnt
know how many outs were in an inning so i bet. Maddog told me before
i answered I needed to do a shot and I agreed. I took the shot and yelled
out 3. Maddog laughed and took the food and the girl and scream 6
beyach. Right before he slammed the door he said enjoy the nap and 5
minutes later I passed out. They dont call him the Professor for nothin.
I woke up the next day the hooters girl was laying next to me with a
Hitler mustache drawn on with marker and a Carlos Baerga jersey. The
worst part was I looked down and she was handcuffed to my ankel. Do
you know how hard it is to maneuver with someone handcuffed to you
ankle it sucks. Next thing she wakes up and starts screaming and
throwing stuff at me the whole time my ankle is handcuffed to her left
wrist. The next thing is security is knockin on the door and demands
that i answer so I tell the girl I will give her $1000 to be quiet and let me
answer the door while she hides behind my leg behind the door. Bra I
am standing there talking to this man like nothings wrong and he says
to me that i need to keep it down and then asks me whats on my face.
I acted like nothing was wrong and shut the door. I then looked in the
mirror and on my forehead read “the rubber broke” and maddux signed
his name underneath on my forehead. 9 months later bam guess what
and that hootergirl still says she never met maddog. I dont know what
happed……
BW– Well I think we better get on to the next subject Garrett
Anderson where is Garrett?
CJ— He aint here they dont call he loaf for nothin Bar.
BW–Head Fickman and Ron Grant were to be here would be here
to help me out.
Laser Baker–Well that Lie chipper just told went 464 feet
Boog– What brave listens to Richard Pryors “Baby you gonna believe
me or your lying eyes?”
Bobby Cox–That story chipper told had great poise well planned out
it just wasnt true and thats all your looking for in a lie…. chip gonna
be a HOFer.
OJ—Everbody…. story sounds legit, this country was built on framed men
BW–Goodnight America
there’s a thread that runs through this team. from jeff francoeur to kelly johnson and now to greg norton. i dont think i’m exaggerating when i say that we’d be several games up in the wild card if cox hadnt been so stubborn this year. fine. we all know that. what’s scary is that we may well have 2 more years of this same intractable wrong-headedness to deal with.
Ill tell you why Bar, its that crazy denis Rodman wannabe
At SS he makes me nervous cussing in 6 languages always
Whistling me aint no dog you dont whistle at #10 ya hear me Bra?
Man, It’s time for Cox to move on. He’s been great for the Braves, but a new voice is needed.
There’s no way that Norton should still be pinch hitting every night.
When the team sent K’fer down, and moved Prado in as the everyday 2nd bagger, I thought there would be a no non-sense approach to winning this year, but Cox is still making unpopular decisions.
Kurdt Kobain – I feel bad for the center field guy we got from the Pirates this summer. His first chance at a playoff race, and he’s hurt. Gotta be eating him up.
First, are you really a Braves fan if you just know him as the center field guy we got from the Pirates? Second, feel sorry for him? The team is who you should feel sorry for. We thought he was the answer in CF but so far in my opinion he is soft and hasn’t played like when in Pittsburgh.
It appears obvious that Chipper Jones need some rest. His hitting slump and poor fielding at such a critical time in the season has placed this team at a lost. Joe Morgan made a comment that we may be witnessing the end of his career.
That was a nice interview with the still aging Baba Walters. However, the Chipper character should have turned the tough questions on her. Like, WHY? Are you STILL on TV despite Your many flings over the years. And who`s secrets are you still holding out on. I`d like to see that old b…. for once have to squirm on a loaded question headed her way.
I’ll ask my same quesiton I ask atleast 2-3 times a week…since DOB or Carol or Schultz or Bradley or anyone from the AJC won’t ask Cox this question…why they don’t, i have no clue…maybe Nort’s got pictures of them also….
WHY WAS GREG NORTON BATTING IN A LATE INNING KEY SITUATION FOR THIS TEAM ONCE AGAIN?????? WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN, NIGHT AFTER NIGHT AFTER NIGHT???
I have not seen Cox answer a question about Norton’s sorry ass yet..
The Braves are altering their pitching rotation this week so they can protect Greg Norton’s spot on the roster.
The story on the AJC web site says Hudson’s start is being pushed back to Tuesday so the Braves don’t have to drop a position player from the roster.
That means 5 days off for the Braves’ 4 front line starters before their next turn in the rotation, while throwing Kawakami and Hudson on back-to-back nights against the Marlins, which will likely require a heavy workload from the bullpen.
There is no rational explanation for Norton’s continued stay with the team. It’s obvious to everyone, except the possibly senile manager, that he is totally unproductive as a pinch-hitter, WHICH IS THE ONLY THING HE CAN DO ON A TEAM THAT IS VERY THIN ON THE BENCH BECAUSE OF INJURIES.
When the best you can hope for from your No. 1 pinch-hitter is a walk, it’s time to replace him. Long past time.
The Braves are starting a critical series against a key rival, and for the first 2 nights, it’ll be a 5-inning No. 5 starter and a guy who hasn’t pitched in a major league game in well over a year.
All so Greg Norton can continue his march to cracking the .100 BA barrier.
Good way to instill confidence in the team and its fans.
Anyone else on here wonder what Kelly Johnson is thinking sitting on the bench while Norton flails helplessly at pitches he’s got no chance of hitting?
Or what some of the other players really think while Norton gets overmatched again in a key situation?
As someone pointed out, Mcs numbers are not numbers of a cleanup hitter, not even in AAA. — Doc Holiday
Doc, is this based on any research or anything, or just something you felt like saying?
After reading your comment, I checked Stats, Inc and got the updated figures for cleanup hitters in the NL. The collective team average for the position is a .277 average with 23 homers, 88 RBI and a .478 slugging percentage.
Braves cleanup hitters have a collective (though mostly McCann) average of .280 with 23 homers, 88 RBI (yes, the exact league average in homers and RBI) and a .486 slugging percentage.
Five teams have 18 or fewer total homers from the cleanup position: Dodgers (11), Mets (11), Marlins (14), Astros (17) and Pirates (18).
Seven teams have 83 or fewer RBIs from the cleanup spot: Pirates (64), Giants (79), Padres (80), Rockies (81), Mets (82), D’backs (82) and Astros (83).
Hopefully that helps you in future discussions on the subject.
C’mon people…get a grip! Just be grateful that we are only 3 back in the loss (thank you Edgar Renteria…and with the Rockies & Giants off on Monday…maybe we can get back that 1/2 game back…)…gotta have faith!!!
32 games left…still think 90 is the number to hit for WC. So…how does 22-10 sound? Realistic? Only if offense steps it up and gives the starting pitching some help. J.J. has been unreal this year and what does he have to show for it…9 losses! The guy…with decent offensive support would be on pace for 20 wins…and still has a chance for 14-15 W’s…he pitches so deep into games he… usually gets a decision…(and only 23 years old…can really build the future staff around Hanson and J.J.)
While we have the Marlins this week…the Rockies are hosting the Mets for three…need the Mets to do some damage…which maybe asking for too much I am afraid…so WE NEED TO GO 3-1…at the very least…and the Giants are at Philly…so Phillies need to roll just like they have been…
3 games is not insurmountable…FAITH…(and Chipper coming to the party…now would be a good as time as any to prove to the masses that you are not finished…can you hear me Steve Phillips? CANNOT stand to listen to ESPN…that Sunday night crew basically sux…)
DOB, strong point about Mac being league average, at the cleanup position.
But here’s the thing. With the rest of our lineup being what it is, the Braves need more than league average out of that spot.
Out of curiosity, what is Chipper compared to league average in the 3-hole (actually, I can look at Stats Inc as well, is it easy to find – never been to that site)?.
I notice, other than the Dodgers, there isn’t a single team that is already in “playoff position” with worse numbers from cleanup. The Marlins are pretty much in our boat offensively.
To me, the problem with league average is that it also factors in the teams with really lousy production. I’d be more curious to see what the elite offensive teams (or what most consider to be elite) “average” from the 3, 4 and 5 spots in the order.
Not trying to argue with you (sometimes I do, but not on this subject). My problem isn’t neccesarily with Mac and Chipper, it’s the rest of the cast. I think Mac is a perfect #5 hitter, and Chipper might be more suited to move as well. Of course this would require two things to happen. Somebody else on the roster stepping up (Yunel?) and becoming “the man”, and Bobby being willing to move his guys around a bit.
I think it’s safe to say that if a teams rotation had “league average” production, it would be….well….average. Our lineup seems to be stacked with guys that are average in terms of 2009 production.
In order for this lineup to take the next step and help the stellar pitching out from time to time, somebody has to step up and be above league average. Don’t you think?
Ironically, Mac is above league average (I would assume) in terms of production from the catcher position. But then again, I’ll also assume that not to many teams have their catcher batting cleanup.
DOB, not that you couldn’t figure this out by my last post (call me bored tonight), but you stated:
“Five teams have 18 or fewer total homers from the cleanup position: Dodgers (11), Mets (11), Marlins (14), Astros (17) and Pirates (18)…..Seven teams have 83 or fewer RBIs from the cleanup spot: Pirates (64), Giants (79), Padres (80), Rockies (81), Mets (82), D’backs (82) and Astros (83).”
You do realize that you’re adding the Pirates (yikes) in there, along with two teams with massive pitchers parks (Mets and Padres), along with the Giants (one of the weaker offenses in baseball), into the mix, right?
I’d say that’s not really good company to be keeping when stating that the Braves are better than those teams in the category.
He’d be a better guy off the bench than Norton is (plus he can play infield … other than pinch hitting, Norton is pretty much useless and right now he’s not even pinch hitting)
probably won’t happen, but it’s nice to think about
…Bobby keeps looking for the past big at bats that Norton provided…but notta’…he has not delievred this year…thus far and how many more chances do you give this guy? Bobby…can be guilty to being loyal to a fault. Walking a very thin line now…
Now what…Tuesday, SEPTEMBER 1st…will bring some relief…but my gut says that something may happen later today…some sort of roster move…pick-up…deletion…we can only hope that this team continues to improve its roster…A/K/A…our bench…today would not be soon enough!!!
We love Greg because he doesnt hit us when we look bad. He doesnt hit us when we look good. Even when we are fat and lay right down the middle Greg never hits us. In fact Greg is the kindest of all the MLB players. From all the Rawlings official MLB baseballs: God Bless Greg Norton and God bless Bobby Cox.
Our current pitchers are terrific and Roger McD has done a fine job. Put it into perspective. The big three had Andruw and his defense was generally credited with saving one run a game, plus they had a good glove at third with Castillo or young Chipper. Now Loaf and older Chipper cost an average of one run a game. This has to wear on the pitchers and even adjust their strategy.
Was reading the Braves yearbook this AM. All the players responded to a series of questions, including What is your dream vacation. Most of the answers were what you might expect, except Chipper’s. Chipper said his dream vacation is retirement.
Look guys, I wish you would leave Mr. Norton alone. He works so hard to stay in shape, knowing that Mr. Cox will call on him in the big moment. And all he gets is grief and accusations of illegal activity. I know for a fact that Mr. Norton is not using a private investigator in Atlanta to blackmail Mr. Cox. I know because when I called around for Mr. Norton, he was upset at the high fees they were asking. Mr. Norton is a good man and I do whatever he asks of me. I keep his yard clean and tidy, and I keep those monthly envelopes from Mr. Cox in the secret safe like he asks me to.
Whoa! Hehe. Hey, that’s pretty funny there! Hey guys, just ignore my gardener ok. Look, he means well, but he’s..uuhh……simple. He really doesn’t understand adult things, so, let’s just play bell eh? Woops…gotta go hoist some weights…stay in shape!
Greg Norton coming to bat in the 9th with two out is bigger than the Shoeless Joe Jackson story. There needs to be an investigation. Follow the money trail.
Two losses to the FILTHIES don’t grate on my nerves nearly as much as two to the FRIERS. It looks like 86 wins this season, and a big bat corner outfielder for GARRETT in the off-season.
One thing that I do not understand is why the Braves continue to use Greg Norton as a pinch hitter. What is he bating? 110? He has not had a clutch hit all year and he is just about an automatic out everytime he steps into the batters box.
Somewhere out there there has to be a clutch hitter that can deliver occasionally.
So, I get to work and check the recap, and see that Norton pinch hit to end the game. You know……..at first glance, you figure, wtf…there was one out to go…..big deal. But, the more you think about it…..hitting Kelly Johnson or Infante makes more sense because a) Norton is not a power hitter so there’s little chance he ties it up.. b) Even if he does get a hit, you have to pinch run one of those guys for him anyway and c) he just sucks..period. So, you hate to see Bobby Cox just give up on the game like that…..you never know what can happen with one out to go…..a bloop and a blast right? Sending Norton up there effectively ended the game when there were much better options on the bench.
Yes, could very well be time to move Chipper to the #5 or #6 slot on either side of LaRoche. The fact that Norton is still trotted out there ad nauseum is proof that probably won’t happen. What would I do? Glad you asked. Put Prado as the #3 and Escobar at #2 or simply switch Escobar and Jones.
The Braves have no room for error but they are sending KK and Hudson to pitch back to back. That should be real interesting. Better score a ton of runs. Cue the bullpen. It will be a long night.
One thing for sure we will see different pinch hitters due to the callups arriving. Won’t guarantee success but it should guarantee we won’t be seeing Frank Norton any more for quite awhile.
lwbenson…..spot on dude, exactly why I have been clamoring for Heyward to be called up despite the arb-issue down the road. You grab the chance to make the playoffs by the throat. We have no margin for bad roster decisions and this playoff chase may very well come down to games that can be won by a heroic blast or the threat of anyway.
Why waste an opportunity to put one of your young studs to the test in Sept. No guarantees of course that he will come through but would you rather see Heyward or Norton/KJ at the plate in a crucial situation. Of the 3,000 posts here the only ones wanting Norton/KJ would be their moms.
2,146 comments Add your comment
Chop Chop
August 31st, 2009
12:46 am
Hey, free publicity, right?
Soph
August 31st, 2009
12:47 am
Chop Chop, I got your back.
jeffrey d
August 31st, 2009
12:47 am
Soph – somebody’s posting under his blog under the name “Sophi.” He (understandably) thinks it’s you.
Chop Chop
August 31st, 2009
12:47 am
You’re confoozing me, kid! What are you talking about?
Are you telling me that thats NOT you on my blog??
Find a flaw!
jed
August 31st, 2009
12:47 am
Enter your comments here
Jurrjens4NLCY's Anti Chop Chop Campaign!
August 31st, 2009
12:49 am
Did you know Chop Chop has never won a game???
And did you know that Chop Chop stood idly by as the Black Plague ravaged Europe???
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 31st, 2009
12:50 am
Busted again!
Soph
August 31st, 2009
12:50 am
Props to Chop Chop for handling the criticism of his coaching skills with dignity.
knife
August 31st, 2009
12:50 am
stick me in Chop Chop’s heart!
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 31st, 2009
12:51 am
Soph,
That was me, defending Chop Chop…
Chop Chop
August 31st, 2009
12:51 am
I’m not handling it with dignity.
I’m just compiling a black list.
Soph
August 31st, 2009
12:51 am
A. I don’t know what proposal you’re talking about so repost it please.
B. There’s a “sophi” on your blog and you automatically assume it’s me?
Soph
August 31st, 2009
12:52 am
I’m just compiling a black list.
Just remember Chop Chop, I had your back. We’re likethis.
jeffrey d
August 31st, 2009
12:52 am
B. There’s a “sophi” on your blog and you automatically assume it’s me?
I would
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 31st, 2009
12:54 am
Soph,
Yes I think its you! Your my DOBFF…
Jurrjens, Jordan Schafer, Bradon Hicks, Jo Jo (just to get him off the team) for Carlos Quintin, Chris Getz, Josh Fields and Dayan Viciedo…
.44 Magnum
August 31st, 2009
12:55 am
Put me against Chop Chop’s head and pull the trigger!
Dick Cheney
August 31st, 2009
12:55 am
Stick me in Colon Powell.
knife
August 31st, 2009
12:55 am
Spoon,
Lets trade places.
Soph
August 31st, 2009
12:56 am
DOBFF?
I have no comment on that trade proposal. None whatsoever.
Loaf on blackberry laying restlessly in bed thinking about life
August 31st, 2009
12:56 am
Damn. LA was nice. They are the 2nd best team in baseball. They didn’t make fun of me. I need to go to Brett Favre’s decision making class.
knife
August 31st, 2009
12:57 am
No wait, I wanna trade places with Dick Cheney!
spoon
August 31st, 2009
12:57 am
Wait your turn.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 31st, 2009
12:57 am
DOBFF?
DOB + BFF = DOBFF
Bobby Cox
August 31st, 2009
12:58 am
Stick me in a retirement home.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 31st, 2009
12:59 am
I tell ya! This role playing is hard! I almost responded in my cover…
Soph
August 31st, 2009
12:59 am
So…is Chop Chop still manager? Cuz I have a nickname for him if he is. Chop squared. Chop^2.
knife
August 31st, 2009
12:59 am
Spoon,
I say we show Chop Chop the bad kind of DP!
Giggidy!
Soph
August 31st, 2009
12:59 am
DOBFF…I like it.
spork
August 31st, 2009
1:01 am
Stick me in Braves baseball blogs.
The Bird and Indian
August 31st, 2009
1:02 am
Yes! the second Loaf poster is back! He/She was always the best.
The Bird and Indian
August 31st, 2009
1:02 am
Ouch. It’s a school night. Night all.
knife
August 31st, 2009
1:03 am
Stick me in my fantastic File Migon that I have leftovers from!
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 31st, 2009
1:03 am
I like it too!
Barbara Walters, The Chipper and Loaf interview
August 31st, 2009
1:03 am
Barbara Walters- Is it true that you feel uncomfortable as the team leader
Chipper—- so wait your names Bar–Bra let me give you a hell ya on that!
BW—- Its Barbara Mr. Jones
CJ—- I love your 1st name but your last name Bra I wish
God never made them too hard to remove
BW—Larry my 1st name is Barbara last name Walters
CJ—Walters a good name my favorite movie character is Walter Sobchak
BW–let me interrupt u again could you just answer the question Mr. Jones
CJ— leadership? I lead in the bedroom
and in the deer stand thats where lead missy
BW–Ok next question… 16 errors?… Why?
CJ–Ill tell you why Bar, its that crazy denis Rodman wannabe
At SS he makes me nervous cussing in 6 languages always
Whistling me aint no dog you dont whistle at #10 ya hear me Bra?
BW-So what happened with the marriage in ‘95
CJ–Oh hell NO!! Bra im the leader in this interview and I aint answering
any questions……You really wanna know?
BW–Yes Mr Jones and the HOF voters want to know too
CJ–Well heck Bra thats all you had to say……Here is how it went
down, I was hungry and so i went to Hooters to get some food it all
started because I didnt pull out I didnt pull out of that TO GO parking
spot fast enough. See the waitress came to the car and its was cold
in October so i told her to get in she did and all I had was a $100 bill.
I was a rookie I wasnt rich like all these little punks these days I
needed change. She told me she couldnt make change and that the
restaurant was low on change as well. I told her that i had change in
my hotel room and it was a couple blocks away.She smiled and so we
left and I pulled up to the hotel I got out of the car to run up stairs she
wanted to come with because she had to P. Flip P upside down its
means b the F careful I wasnt. Anyway She came to the room and Maddog
came barging in. He was all talkin $hit and he bet me the wings I didnt
know how many outs were in an inning so i bet. Maddog told me before
i answered I needed to do a shot and I agreed. I took the shot and yelled
out 3. Maddog laughed and took the food and the girl and scream 6
beyach. Right before he slammed the door he said enjoy the nap and 5
minutes later I passed out. They dont call him the Professor for nothin.
I woke up the next day the hooters girl was laying next to me with a
Hitler mustache drawn on with marker and a Carlos Baerga jersey. The
worst part was I looked down and she was handcuffed to my ankel. Do
you know how hard it is to maneuver with someone handcuffed to you
ankle it sucks. Next thing she wakes up and starts screaming and
throwing stuff at me the whole time my ankle is handcuffed to her left
wrist. The next thing is security is knockin on the door and demands
that i answer so I tell the girl I will give her $1000 to be quiet and let me
answer the door while she hides behind my leg behind the door. Bra I
am standing there talking to this man like nothings wrong and he says
to me that i need to keep it down and then asks me whats on my face.
I acted like nothing was wrong and shut the door. I then looked in the
mirror and on my forehead read “the rubber broke” and maddux signed
his name underneath on my forehead. 9 months later bam guess what
and that hootergirl still says she never met maddog. I dont know what
happed……
BW– Well I think we better get on to the next subject Garrett
Anderson where is Garrett?
CJ— He aint here they dont call he loaf for nothin Bar.
BW–Head Fickman and Ron Grant were to be here would be here
to help me out.
Laser Baker–Well that Lie chipper just told went 464 feet
Boog– What brave listens to Richard Pryors “Baby you gonna believe
me or your lying eyes?”
Bobby Cox–That story chipper told had great poise well planned out
it just wasnt true and thats all your looking for in a lie…. chip gonna
be a HOFer.
OJ—Everbody…. story sounds legit, this country was built on framed men
BW–Goodnight America
Dining Utencil/Deadly Weapon
August 31st, 2009
1:05 am
Stick me in my new post: http://knoble.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/08/so_where_are_we_now.html
Shameless plug…
jed
August 31st, 2009
1:06 am
there’s a thread that runs through this team. from jeff francoeur to kelly johnson and now to greg norton. i dont think i’m exaggerating when i say that we’d be several games up in the wild card if cox hadnt been so stubborn this year. fine. we all know that. what’s scary is that we may well have 2 more years of this same intractable wrong-headedness to deal with.
Dining Utencil/Deadly Weapon
August 31st, 2009
1:06 am
Ill tell you why Bar, its that crazy denis Rodman wannabe
At SS he makes me nervous cussing in 6 languages always
Whistling me aint no dog you dont whistle at #10 ya hear me Bra?
LOL!
Soph
August 31st, 2009
1:08 am
Wow…
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 31st, 2009
1:09 am
Ha! That was funny…
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 31st, 2009
1:10 am
Tomorrow, Imma do a “Behind blue eyes” parody for Yall
Super StatMan
August 31st, 2009
1:10 am
Now this explains it… Norton and Cox…A love story.
Box score from 7-25-80… Phillies 5, Braves 4.
Atlanta Braves ab r h rbi
Hubbard 2b 5 1 2 0
Murphy cf 4 0 1 0
Chambliss 1b 5 0 1 0
Matthews rf 5 1 1 1
Horner 3b 2 2 1 2
Burroughs lf 4 0 1 0
Benedict c 2 0 0 0
Gomez ss 3 0 1 1
McWilliams p 2 0 0 0
GNorton ph 1 0 0 0 – (K)
Garber p 0 0 0 0
Totals 4 8 4
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 31st, 2009
1:11 am
By the by,
Do yall know how badly Cubs fans want Pinella’s head??
Soph
August 31st, 2009
1:12 am
By the by,
[throws sharp object at JJ]
jeffrey d
August 31st, 2009
1:12 am
Limp Bizkit or the Who?
jeffrey d
August 31st, 2009
1:14 am
This jester asks who says “by the by”?
NO MORE BOBBY
August 31st, 2009
1:14 am
I don’t think Chipper’s offense is worth all the errors and injuries anymore.
Could he be AL bound this off season? Might be time because he is playing more like a Larry than a Chipper this year.
Soph
August 31st, 2009
1:16 am
This jester asks who says “by the by”?
Thank you jeffrey! He won’t stop saying it.
JayDubu
August 31st, 2009
1:16 am
Man, It’s time for Cox to move on. He’s been great for the Braves, but a new voice is needed.
There’s no way that Norton should still be pinch hitting every night.
When the team sent K’fer down, and moved Prado in as the everyday 2nd bagger, I thought there would be a no non-sense approach to winning this year, but Cox is still making unpopular decisions.
NO MORE BOBBY
August 31st, 2009
1:16 am
Phil Garner. Why has that name not come up in new manager talks on here? He could be a great fit with this team.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 31st, 2009
1:17 am
Limp Bizkit or the Who?
STFU!
This jester asks who says “by the by”?
Someone who wants to piss off Soph…
jeffrey d
August 31st, 2009
1:18 am
So is the Chop Chop era over? That was fun for about an hour.
I think I should go to bed.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 31st, 2009
1:18 am
Ugh. I remember K’fer…
Soph
August 31st, 2009
1:18 am
Someone who wants to piss off Soph…
It’s working!
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 31st, 2009
1:19 am
It’s working!
I love you.
Bad Scooter
August 31st, 2009
1:19 am
well, the lets face it gang is out in force tonight
Soph
August 31st, 2009
1:19 am
I thoroughly enjoyed the Chop Chop era. He’s a sure HOF’er in my book. Three cheers for Chop Chop!
Soph
August 31st, 2009
1:23 am
No you don’t b/c if you did then you wouldn’t torture me like that. Some DOBFF you are.
Oh and imagine me flipping my hair back in your face while I’m saying that.
NO MORE BOBBY
August 31st, 2009
1:24 am
Kurdt Kobain – I feel bad for the center field guy we got from the Pirates this summer. His first chance at a playoff race, and he’s hurt. Gotta be eating him up.
First, are you really a Braves fan if you just know him as the center field guy we got from the Pirates? Second, feel sorry for him? The team is who you should feel sorry for. We thought he was the answer in CF but so far in my opinion he is soft and hasn’t played like when in Pittsburgh.
So that is eating me up.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 31st, 2009
1:24 am
Oh and imagine me flipping my hair back in your face while I’m saying that.
Yeah? What else are you doing?
Soph
August 31st, 2009
1:26 am
Yeah? What else are you doing?
Sticking my middle finger up at you.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 31st, 2009
1:27 am
Sticking my middle finger up at you.
Ohh, What else??
Soph
August 31st, 2009
1:30 am
Ohh, What else??
You’re crazy. I’m going to bed. Niiiiiiight.
Tell “sophi” I said hello.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 31st, 2009
1:31 am
Hello King of Prons!
Thats what I was going for…
king of pr0ns
August 31st, 2009
1:32 am
Well…are you?
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 31st, 2009
1:33 am
You’re crazy. I’m going to bed. Niiiiiiight.
Tell “sophi” I said hello.
G-Night DOBFF!
Sohpi can kiss my kiester if it means that much to you…
Dick Cheney
August 31st, 2009
1:34 am
Stick me in Soph
Dick Cheney
August 31st, 2009
1:34 am
Enter your comments here
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 31st, 2009
1:34 am
Ohh Yea!
lexluther
August 31st, 2009
1:36 am
It appears obvious that Chipper Jones need some rest. His hitting slump and poor fielding at such a critical time in the season has placed this team at a lost. Joe Morgan made a comment that we may be witnessing the end of his career.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 31st, 2009
1:37 am
Ok, I’m going to bed…
Shamus Thacker
August 31st, 2009
1:39 am
OK, I’m tastefully butt-nekkid.
Shamus Thacker
August 31st, 2009
1:42 am
Why do yankees say “buck nay-ked” and we say “butt nekkid?”
Sadtoseeitthisway
August 31st, 2009
1:45 am
That was a nice interview with the still aging Baba Walters. However, the Chipper character should have turned the tough questions on her. Like, WHY? Are you STILL on TV despite Your many flings over the years. And who`s secrets are you still holding out on. I`d like to see that old b…. for once have to squirm on a loaded question headed her way.
jackets77
August 31st, 2009
1:45 am
I’ll ask my same quesiton I ask atleast 2-3 times a week…since DOB or Carol or Schultz or Bradley or anyone from the AJC won’t ask Cox this question…why they don’t, i have no clue…maybe Nort’s got pictures of them also….
WHY WAS GREG NORTON BATTING IN A LATE INNING KEY SITUATION FOR THIS TEAM ONCE AGAIN?????? WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN, NIGHT AFTER NIGHT AFTER NIGHT???
I have not seen Cox answer a question about Norton’s sorry ass yet..
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 31st, 2009
1:48 am
Ok so 80’s equal the 00’s and 90 equals the 10’s? So we suck every other decade? I like it!
Shamus Thacker
August 31st, 2009
1:49 am
I’m surprised the umps don’t call delay of game when Norton is sent up to bat.
mr baseball
August 31st, 2009
1:56 am
The Braves are altering their pitching rotation this week so they can protect Greg Norton’s spot on the roster.
The story on the AJC web site says Hudson’s start is being pushed back to Tuesday so the Braves don’t have to drop a position player from the roster.
That means 5 days off for the Braves’ 4 front line starters before their next turn in the rotation, while throwing Kawakami and Hudson on back-to-back nights against the Marlins, which will likely require a heavy workload from the bullpen.
There is no rational explanation for Norton’s continued stay with the team. It’s obvious to everyone, except the possibly senile manager, that he is totally unproductive as a pinch-hitter, WHICH IS THE ONLY THING HE CAN DO ON A TEAM THAT IS VERY THIN ON THE BENCH BECAUSE OF INJURIES.
When the best you can hope for from your No. 1 pinch-hitter is a walk, it’s time to replace him. Long past time.
The Braves are starting a critical series against a key rival, and for the first 2 nights, it’ll be a 5-inning No. 5 starter and a guy who hasn’t pitched in a major league game in well over a year.
All so Greg Norton can continue his march to cracking the .100 BA barrier.
Good way to instill confidence in the team and its fans.
mr baseball
August 31st, 2009
2:01 am
Anyone else on here wonder what Kelly Johnson is thinking sitting on the bench while Norton flails helplessly at pitches he’s got no chance of hitting?
Or what some of the other players really think while Norton gets overmatched again in a key situation?
David O'Brien
August 31st, 2009
2:13 am
As someone pointed out, Mcs numbers are not numbers of a cleanup hitter, not even in AAA. — Doc Holiday
Doc, is this based on any research or anything, or just something you felt like saying?
After reading your comment, I checked Stats, Inc and got the updated figures for cleanup hitters in the NL. The collective team average for the position is a .277 average with 23 homers, 88 RBI and a .478 slugging percentage.
Braves cleanup hitters have a collective (though mostly McCann) average of .280 with 23 homers, 88 RBI (yes, the exact league average in homers and RBI) and a .486 slugging percentage.
Five teams have 18 or fewer total homers from the cleanup position: Dodgers (11), Mets (11), Marlins (14), Astros (17) and Pirates (18).
Seven teams have 83 or fewer RBIs from the cleanup spot: Pirates (64), Giants (79), Padres (80), Rockies (81), Mets (82), D’backs (82) and Astros (83).
Hopefully that helps you in future discussions on the subject.
Joe D. loves Marilyn
August 31st, 2009
2:14 am
C’mon people…get a grip! Just be grateful that we are only 3 back in the loss (thank you Edgar Renteria…and with the Rockies & Giants off on Monday…maybe we can get back that 1/2 game back…)…gotta have faith!!!
32 games left…still think 90 is the number to hit for WC. So…how does 22-10 sound? Realistic? Only if offense steps it up and gives the starting pitching some help. J.J. has been unreal this year and what does he have to show for it…9 losses! The guy…with decent offensive support would be on pace for 20 wins…and still has a chance for 14-15 W’s…he pitches so deep into games he… usually gets a decision…(and only 23 years old…can really build the future staff around Hanson and J.J.)
While we have the Marlins this week…the Rockies are hosting the Mets for three…need the Mets to do some damage…which maybe asking for too much I am afraid…so WE NEED TO GO 3-1…at the very least…and the Giants are at Philly…so Phillies need to roll just like they have been…
3 games is not insurmountable…FAITH…(and Chipper coming to the party…now would be a good as time as any to prove to the masses that you are not finished…can you hear me Steve Phillips? CANNOT stand to listen to ESPN…that Sunday night crew basically sux…)
Selah…
N8
August 31st, 2009
2:28 am
DOB, strong point about Mac being league average, at the cleanup position.
But here’s the thing. With the rest of our lineup being what it is, the Braves need more than league average out of that spot.
Out of curiosity, what is Chipper compared to league average in the 3-hole (actually, I can look at Stats Inc as well, is it easy to find – never been to that site)?.
I notice, other than the Dodgers, there isn’t a single team that is already in “playoff position” with worse numbers from cleanup. The Marlins are pretty much in our boat offensively.
To me, the problem with league average is that it also factors in the teams with really lousy production. I’d be more curious to see what the elite offensive teams (or what most consider to be elite) “average” from the 3, 4 and 5 spots in the order.
Not trying to argue with you (sometimes I do, but not on this subject). My problem isn’t neccesarily with Mac and Chipper, it’s the rest of the cast. I think Mac is a perfect #5 hitter, and Chipper might be more suited to move as well. Of course this would require two things to happen. Somebody else on the roster stepping up (Yunel?) and becoming “the man”, and Bobby being willing to move his guys around a bit.
I think it’s safe to say that if a teams rotation had “league average” production, it would be….well….average. Our lineup seems to be stacked with guys that are average in terms of 2009 production.
In order for this lineup to take the next step and help the stellar pitching out from time to time, somebody has to step up and be above league average. Don’t you think?
Ironically, Mac is above league average (I would assume) in terms of production from the catcher position. But then again, I’ll also assume that not to many teams have their catcher batting cleanup.
N8
August 31st, 2009
2:32 am
DOB, not that you couldn’t figure this out by my last post (call me bored tonight), but you stated:
“Five teams have 18 or fewer total homers from the cleanup position: Dodgers (11), Mets (11), Marlins (14), Astros (17) and Pirates (18)…..Seven teams have 83 or fewer RBIs from the cleanup spot: Pirates (64), Giants (79), Padres (80), Rockies (81), Mets (82), D’backs (82) and Astros (83).”
You do realize that you’re adding the Pirates (yikes) in there, along with two teams with massive pitchers parks (Mets and Padres), along with the Giants (one of the weaker offenses in baseball), into the mix, right?
I’d say that’s not really good company to be keeping when stating that the Braves are better than those teams in the category.
Shamus Thacker
August 31st, 2009
2:41 am
Norton should file a union grievance for being forced to unnecessarily carry a bat when it’s his time up.
ChurchMan
August 31st, 2009
2:48 am
“Nomar Might Be On The Move”
He’d be a better guy off the bench than Norton is (plus he can play infield … other than pinch hitting, Norton is pretty much useless and right now he’s not even pinch hitting)
probably won’t happen, but it’s nice to think about
Joe D. loves Marilyn
August 31st, 2009
2:55 am
Norton…gotta go?
…Bobby keeps looking for the past big at bats that Norton provided…but notta’…he has not delievred this year…thus far and how many more chances do you give this guy? Bobby…can be guilty to being loyal to a fault. Walking a very thin line now…
Now what…Tuesday, SEPTEMBER 1st…will bring some relief…but my gut says that something may happen later today…some sort of roster move…pick-up…deletion…we can only hope that this team continues to improve its roster…A/K/A…our bench…today would not be soon enough!!!
MLB Baseballs Support and Love Greg Norton
August 31st, 2009
3:08 am
We love Greg because he doesnt hit us when we look bad. He doesnt hit us when we look good. Even when we are fat and lay right down the middle Greg never hits us. In fact Greg is the kindest of all the MLB players. From all the Rawlings official MLB baseballs: God Bless Greg Norton and God bless Bobby Cox.
Steve from OH
August 31st, 2009
6:45 am
Chop Chop………..”props” on keeping me entertained last night. Your postings certainly didnt look like a BUM was making them.
Rodney Derrick
August 31st, 2009
6:54 am
Our current pitchers are terrific and Roger McD has done a fine job. Put it into perspective. The big three had Andruw and his defense was generally credited with saving one run a game, plus they had a good glove at third with Castillo or young Chipper. Now Loaf and older Chipper cost an average of one run a game. This has to wear on the pitchers and even adjust their strategy.
RHR
August 31st, 2009
7:30 am
Steve supports Chop Chop!? HA! You would!
Mid Town Joe
August 31st, 2009
8:04 am
Was reading the Braves yearbook this AM. All the players responded to a series of questions, including What is your dream vacation. Most of the answers were what you might expect, except Chipper’s. Chipper said his dream vacation is retirement.
Greg Norton's Gardener
August 31st, 2009
8:17 am
Look guys, I wish you would leave Mr. Norton alone. He works so hard to stay in shape, knowing that Mr. Cox will call on him in the big moment. And all he gets is grief and accusations of illegal activity. I know for a fact that Mr. Norton is not using a private investigator in Atlanta to blackmail Mr. Cox. I know because when I called around for Mr. Norton, he was upset at the high fees they were asking. Mr. Norton is a good man and I do whatever he asks of me. I keep his yard clean and tidy, and I keep those monthly envelopes from Mr. Cox in the secret safe like he asks me to.
Greg Norton (For Real)
August 31st, 2009
8:22 am
Whoa! Hehe. Hey, that’s pretty funny there! Hey guys, just ignore my gardener ok. Look, he means well, but he’s..uuhh……simple. He really doesn’t understand adult things, so, let’s just play bell eh? Woops…gotta go hoist some weights…stay in shape!
Baba O'Riley
August 31st, 2009
8:28 am
Wow! The intended jokes are really lame people. Go back to bed.
Mid Town Joe
August 31st, 2009
8:35 am
Greg Norton coming to bat in the 9th with two out is bigger than the Shoeless Joe Jackson story. There needs to be an investigation. Follow the money trail.
richbrave
August 31st, 2009
8:45 am
Two losses to the FILTHIES don’t grate on my nerves nearly as much as two to the FRIERS. It looks like 86 wins this season, and a big bat corner outfielder for GARRETT in the off-season.
Langley
August 31st, 2009
8:48 am
One thing that I do not understand is why the Braves continue to use Greg Norton as a pinch hitter. What is he bating? 110? He has not had a clutch hit all year and he is just about an automatic out everytime he steps into the batters box.
Somewhere out there there has to be a clutch hitter that can deliver occasionally.
lwbenson
August 31st, 2009
8:51 am
So, I get to work and check the recap, and see that Norton pinch hit to end the game. You know……..at first glance, you figure, wtf…there was one out to go…..big deal. But, the more you think about it…..hitting Kelly Johnson or Infante makes more sense because a) Norton is not a power hitter so there’s little chance he ties it up.. b) Even if he does get a hit, you have to pinch run one of those guys for him anyway and c) he just sucks..period. So, you hate to see Bobby Cox just give up on the game like that…..you never know what can happen with one out to go…..a bloop and a blast right? Sending Norton up there effectively ended the game when there were much better options on the bench.
Mid Town Joe
August 31st, 2009
8:51 am
Does Bobby actualy call for Norton to pinch hit, or do you think Greg jumps out there on his own?
Rock On......the denizen formerly known as Dadgum
August 31st, 2009
8:52 am
Yes, could very well be time to move Chipper to the #5 or #6 slot on either side of LaRoche. The fact that Norton is still trotted out there ad nauseum is proof that probably won’t happen. What would I do? Glad you asked. Put Prado as the #3 and Escobar at #2 or simply switch Escobar and Jones.
The Braves have no room for error but they are sending KK and Hudson to pitch back to back. That should be real interesting. Better score a ton of runs. Cue the bullpen. It will be a long night.
One thing for sure we will see different pinch hitters due to the callups arriving. Won’t guarantee success but it should guarantee we won’t be seeing Frank Norton any more for quite awhile.
Rock On......the denizen formerly known as Dadgum
August 31st, 2009
9:00 am
lwbenson…..spot on dude, exactly why I have been clamoring for Heyward to be called up despite the arb-issue down the road. You grab the chance to make the playoffs by the throat. We have no margin for bad roster decisions and this playoff chase may very well come down to games that can be won by a heroic blast or the threat of anyway.
Why waste an opportunity to put one of your young studs to the test in Sept. No guarantees of course that he will come through but would you rather see Heyward or Norton/KJ at the plate in a crucial situation. Of the 3,000 posts here the only ones wanting Norton/KJ would be their moms.