Just funny how Chipper comes up “clutch” by hitting a cue ball that came to a dead stop 200 feet from home plate … and McCann “chokes” By almost lodging a line drive in Utley’s abdomen.
Gotta love baseball.
Ugly inning. Never been so disappointed to only score 1 run.
I could care less whether McCann hit the ball hard that inning. When your offense collectively SUCKS A$$ for the first 7 innings of a game……..then hoping that your hard hit balls wont be hit right at someone is your only “strategy”, which kind of sucks.
Right now Garret’s stats should show 50 RBI and 50 runs allowed in LF. Let’s see if he can get ahead.
That cannot be! In his epic blog novel I am always correct in my postings by Paul Lentz, the master teaches us that defense is not as important as offense. That bad defense is not relevant if you have a good hitter. He also teaches us that on-base percentage and slugging percentage are not important. We must worship batting average and RBI, for they are the way to Density.
Have you SEEN the Braves try to bunt this season? They suck. Hard. Talk about a waste of an at-bat.
Even if his bunt accomplishes nothing, 1 out is better than 2. And there’s a good chance they won’t be expecting it and he may get a base hit out of it.
“No reason to be mad at anyone there. Mac hit it hard and the runners did what they were supposed to. Tough luck”
Couldn’t be more true. Mac trying to hang in there against a tough lefty and he hits Utley with the ball, Utley didn’t make some outstanding play. They were going to get a DP regardless as hard as it was hit with Mac’s speed.
DOB or anybody.Has there been any mention of catching giving McCann sore/slow/injured hands or wrists ? When he was a great hitter (still good but certainly not great) his hands were the biggest reason in my opinion.
On that dp, he would have had a double at his best.His hands and wrists look both slower and weaker to me.
ChurchMan mac hasn’t looked good in this series, not at all. He should be happy when they play florida
Ugh…why? He’s hit .207 against the Marlins this year with two homers and eight RBI. If not for July 30th and August 23rd, he’d have no hits, no RBI against them…
He’s never hit the Marlins very well from what I remember. But hey, he also used to hit the Fillies, so what am I talking about?
RHRI would have died if that had been a triple play.
Jake, I definitely think that Wren has options going into next season. Between basically having Hudson and Vazquez under contract and Heyward on the way, possibly Schafer, there should be some chips to make the team more balanced next year.
As for the pitchers to have used? If you take out Charlie Morton’s 1 IP/10ER performace a couple of weeks ago, the Pirates have gone 5-7 in his other 12 starts, while he has posted a 3.62 ERA in those starts (overall ERA is 5.00 with that gawd awful start on August 14th).
Wren had options to “fill” the 5th spot of the rotation and cross his fingers for a .500 record from that spot while adding more offense to the lineup.
But I think it’s safe to say we understand where each other is coming from.
Superhoo,
Thanks for that.
Maybe, though, all a major league hitter can do is a put a good swing on it and hit it hard. And what happens, happens.
Guess McCann should’ve aimed for a hole. Not sure what he was thinking.
No reason to be mad at anyone there. Mac hit it hard and the runners did what they were supposed to. Tough luck.
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I dont agree……………Mc has been a total clown …………. ZERO consistency…………you just cant count on him………..wonder WTH is he doing at the cleanup spot.
Im calling this one on COX………….you have to tie the game………….we had the chance to put the winning run at 2b……….all we had to do was bunt the ball. Of course, since we had our GREAT CLEANUP HITTER coming up, you just dont bunt the ball……..right? WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if Brian is not hitting as a cleanup hitter, you dont treat him like one……….you bunt the freaking ball and then your tying run is at 3b…………….I hate COX as much as John Miller!!!!!!!!!!!
2 men on and no outs, and people on here want McCann to bunt?? This is the spot we want him to hit in and he hit the ball hard. He hits that in the gap, everyone is praising McCann. Instead, hindsight is 20/20 and Cox is an idiot for not bunting his clean up hitter in the spot we want him to be in. Some of you are simply irrational.
Heath,
If the infield was in it was a two-hopper right at Utley. Prado would’ve likely been out.
But, its debatable whether Manuel wouldve played the infield in anyway — and risk the Braves taking the lead on a little bloop.
The REAL underlying problem isn’t what Mac was going to do in the cleanup spot in that situation, but simply that fact that Mac is IN the cleanup spot, with the way he’s been hitting.
my point is, there are many batters who hit balls hard. and have .200 averages to show for it. I just don’t usually praise “almosts” as far as hitting goes. it’s either there or not.
Hasn’t McCann been hitting the ball well as of late? Hasn’t he been one of our best hitters over the past 2-3 years? Isn’t he one of the hitters we want in that spot? Don’t be so critical when we had one of the best hitters on our club hitting in that spot. Instead, because he is hitting 4, you find fault somehow with where Bobby placed him in the lineup. Not surprising you would have something of the such to say, anyway.
Thanks for the info McFann. There were people on here saying he should’ve bunted but I think you gotta let your cleanup hitter swing. Bad luck happens, what can you do?
ChiliDog…Whatever you are doing after the game tonight..I want in…My type of dude…Waffle house..Saddlescores…My treat…Know a great after hours theatre that caters to us..
Doc,
It wasn’t terrible. You’re right. It wasn’t great either though and there is no explanation as to why he was playing that far behind the bag to begin with – which forced him to have to make the bare-handed, hard-charging attempt.
Those of you criticizing Bobby for now having McCann bunt simply arent thinking straight. McCann has doubles/home run power. You dont “waste” his bat by having him bunt. Just not wise to do that.
Using Soriano right now was the right move by Bobby. Soriano is fresh, has great stuff. It is absolutely imperative that the Phillies do not score this inning.
sooo…when do u think Bobby’s putting in Norton? in the 8th or 9th spot in this inning? Just wondering…I think he’s gonna wait til the 9th spot incase there are ppl on base to make us all even angrier
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Steve from OH
August 30th, 2009
10:17 pm
Prado’s made two bad baserunning plays this inning. Not good at all.
Not good indeed…
The Bird and Indian
August 30th, 2009
10:17 pm
No reason to be mad at anyone there. Mac hit it hard and the runners did what they were supposed to. Tough luck.
jeffrey d
August 30th, 2009
10:17 pm
Nice little shuffle by Garret
curtis jones
August 30th, 2009
10:17 pm
A bunt by McCann would be totally against Bobby’s goal of finishing .500.
Right now Garret’s stats should show 50 RBI and 50 runs allowed in LF. Let’s see if he can get ahead.
Heath
August 30th, 2009
10:17 pm
Doc -
Agreed. Gotta bunt there. Just like Charlie should have made Blanton keep his bat on his shoulder when the bases were loaded and no outs.
MiaBchBravesFan
August 30th, 2009
10:17 pm
At least Anderson sees pitches
VENEZUELA
August 30th, 2009
10:17 pm
Hate this TEAM! Chipper and MAC have done nothinggggggggg
ChurchMan
August 30th, 2009
10:17 pm
so for the 9th: Escobar and LaRoche, not bad
but …
Gorecki?, and Norton? to follow
chilidog75
August 30th, 2009
10:17 pm
Interested,
You might be right. But I would imagine that’s the first time in pro ball that Prado has seen a shortstop do that.
Gov Clinton Tyree
August 30th, 2009
10:18 pm
Nads
PWHjort
August 30th, 2009
10:18 pm
If McCann had bunted…………………………………..
How slow is GA?
August 30th, 2009
10:18 pm
Really slow.
Tiger Woods
August 30th, 2009
10:18 pm
Lucky mather phackers.
SRF
August 30th, 2009
10:18 pm
really ? it that the best they have got ?
The_Superhoo
August 30th, 2009
10:18 pm
Couldnt take advantage. We’ve got Roach up next inning, but this just feels like a loss. Nothing going wrong for the Phillies D.
Soph
August 30th, 2009
10:18 pm
That was frustrating as hell.
Hugh Jazz
August 30th, 2009
10:18 pm
Incompetence at its finest folks.
braveman
August 30th, 2009
10:19 pm
wow. and people on this board wonder why GA gets bashed so much…
dude doesnt hustle….EVER.
MurphyRules
August 30th, 2009
10:19 pm
Just when you think you’ve seen it all, the Braves find yet another way to kill a rally.
Heath
August 30th, 2009
10:19 pm
If McCann bunts…that slooooooooow grounder by GA would have tied the game.
JayDubu
August 30th, 2009
10:19 pm
Loaf did not run hard on that play at all.
The_Superhoo
August 30th, 2009
10:19 pm
To all those calling for Mac’s bunt:
Have you SEEN the Braves try to bunt this season? They suck. Hard. Talk about a waste of an at-bat.
Brian the Brain
August 30th, 2009
10:19 pm
Ok First things First….shut em down…keep it a one run game.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 30th, 2009
10:19 pm
If the Braves don’t win…. OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!
Cheese
August 30th, 2009
10:19 pm
well pooey
Soph
August 30th, 2009
10:20 pm
Can McCann even bunt? I mean, has he ever done it?
Chopdawg
August 30th, 2009
10:20 pm
Snitker knew he had to send Diaz, because he knew the Braves were gonna get lefty-on-lefty’d.
Don’t care what the record is, vs LH & vs RH–that’s where the Braves lack of RH hitters hurts, right there
Hugh Jazz
August 30th, 2009
10:20 pm
McCann should be hitting 7th and Chipper 8th.
chilidog75
August 30th, 2009
10:20 pm
Just funny how Chipper comes up “clutch” by hitting a cue ball that came to a dead stop 200 feet from home plate … and McCann “chokes” By almost lodging a line drive in Utley’s abdomen.
Gotta love baseball.
Paul Lentz
August 30th, 2009
10:20 pm
Ugly inning. Never been so disappointed to only score 1 run.
I could care less whether McCann hit the ball hard that inning. When your offense collectively SUCKS A$$ for the first 7 innings of a game……..then hoping that your hard hit balls wont be hit right at someone is your only “strategy”, which kind of sucks.
Steve from OH
August 30th, 2009
10:20 pm
Right now Garret’s stats should show 50 RBI and 50 runs allowed in LF. Let’s see if he can get ahead.
That cannot be! In his epic blog novel I am always correct in my postings by Paul Lentz, the master teaches us that defense is not as important as offense. That bad defense is not relevant if you have a good hitter. He also teaches us that on-base percentage and slugging percentage are not important. We must worship batting average and RBI, for they are the way to Density.
MEMO TO FRANK WREN
August 30th, 2009
10:21 pm
GET AN IMPACT HITTER THIS OFFSEASON. JASON HEYWARD WILL BE A ROOKIE NEXT YEAR AND NOT “IMPACT”. CHIPPER AND MCCANN CAN’T DO IT.
IF WREN SIGNS ADAM DUNN INSTEAD OF LOAF, WE ARE IN THE PLAYOFFS.
BOTTOM LINE.
Tiger Woods
August 30th, 2009
10:21 pm
Lidge sucks at least. What u guys think Norton 2-run homer in the bottom?
SRF
August 30th, 2009
10:21 pm
worse thing will be to watch Norton strike out to end it.
chilidog75
August 30th, 2009
10:21 pm
Heath,
Unless the infield was playing in. Which it very well might have been.
Gov Clinton Tyree
August 30th, 2009
10:21 pm
Soph, what the hell are you talking about? You want your cleanup hitter to bunt in the eighth inning with two on?
Heath
August 30th, 2009
10:21 pm
Why not use Gonzo here? He is pretty good against Utley and Howard.
jeffrey d
August 30th, 2009
10:21 pm
So we’re using Soriano to face the lefties?
The_Superhoo
August 30th, 2009
10:21 pm
chilidog:
you dont get a hit by hitting one right at someone. no matter how hard you hit it.
Jalb3rt
August 30th, 2009
10:21 pm
Wow, the Braves owned Joe-the-fat-girl-Blanton tonight!!
PWHjort
August 30th, 2009
10:21 pm
Have you SEEN the Braves try to bunt this season? They suck. Hard. Talk about a waste of an at-bat.
Even if his bunt accomplishes nothing, 1 out is better than 2. And there’s a good chance they won’t be expecting it and he may get a base hit out of it.
Kurdt Kobain
August 30th, 2009
10:21 pm
Prado should have gone to third on Chipper’s hit.
Jake W.
August 30th, 2009
10:21 pm
“No reason to be mad at anyone there. Mac hit it hard and the runners did what they were supposed to. Tough luck”
Couldn’t be more true. Mac trying to hang in there against a tough lefty and he hits Utley with the ball, Utley didn’t make some outstanding play. They were going to get a DP regardless as hard as it was hit with Mac’s speed.
A-ville Ranger
August 30th, 2009
10:21 pm
DOB or anybody.Has there been any mention of catching giving McCann sore/slow/injured hands or wrists ? When he was a great hitter (still good but certainly not great) his hands were the biggest reason in my opinion.
On that dp, he would have had a double at his best.His hands and wrists look both slower and weaker to me.
Steve from OH
August 30th, 2009
10:22 pm
……..then hoping that your hard hit balls wont be hit right at someone is your only “strategy”, which kind of sucks.
There are a myriad of things incorrect in this “posting.” I don’t have time…
McFann Ô
August 30th, 2009
10:22 pm
ChurchMan mac hasn’t looked good in this series, not at all. He should be happy when they play florida
Ugh…why? He’s hit .207 against the Marlins this year with two homers and eight RBI. If not for July 30th and August 23rd, he’d have no hits, no RBI against them…
He’s never hit the Marlins very well from what I remember. But hey, he also used to hit the Fillies, so what am I talking about?
RHR I would have died if that had been a triple play.
Might just as well have been.
Rob from SC
August 30th, 2009
10:22 pm
where is Gonzo
alcindor
August 30th, 2009
10:22 pm
Loaf is a great name for Anderson. Hard to appreciate on TV how half speed the guy is at all times when outside the batter’s box.
jeffrey d
August 30th, 2009
10:22 pm
I hear Frank Wren only reads the memos that are in all caps. Good job, anonymous blogger.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 30th, 2009
10:22 pm
I can’t take it anymore, I can’t watch my favorite pitcher get screwed…
Trade Jurrjens to the AL, get someone good, bring Medlen in the rotation….
I can’t believe I said that, but I think its best for everyone…
jackets77
August 30th, 2009
10:22 pm
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE GO HIDE NORTON’S BAT,HELMET, BATTING GLOVES, ETC…PLEEEAASSE…I’d rather see Soriano hit…seriously
Heath
August 30th, 2009
10:22 pm
chilidog74 -
They would have had to play at little league depth….that was really, really slow. At worse, you get Escobar up.
Mixxo
August 30th, 2009
10:22 pm
Had it set up…..Mac’s ball was a twin-killin’ any way you shake it and no he can’t bunt.
There ya have it…..8 games out after tonight.
Simple.
Soph
August 30th, 2009
10:22 pm
Soph, what the hell are you talking about? You want your cleanup hitter to bunt in the eighth inning with two on?
Gov Clinton Tyree -
No, I don’t. That was the point of my post to the people on here calling for Mac to bunt. That’s what the hell I was talking about.
jeffrey d
August 30th, 2009
10:22 pm
I’m seeing a lot of ifs and shoulds on this page.
N8
August 30th, 2009
10:22 pm
Jake, I definitely think that Wren has options going into next season. Between basically having Hudson and Vazquez under contract and Heyward on the way, possibly Schafer, there should be some chips to make the team more balanced next year.
As for the pitchers to have used? If you take out Charlie Morton’s 1 IP/10ER performace a couple of weeks ago, the Pirates have gone 5-7 in his other 12 starts, while he has posted a 3.62 ERA in those starts (overall ERA is 5.00 with that gawd awful start on August 14th).
Wren had options to “fill” the 5th spot of the rotation and cross his fingers for a .500 record from that spot while adding more offense to the lineup.
But I think it’s safe to say we understand where each other is coming from.
chilidog75
August 30th, 2009
10:23 pm
Superhoo,
Thanks for that.
Maybe, though, all a major league hitter can do is a put a good swing on it and hit it hard. And what happens, happens.
Guess McCann should’ve aimed for a hole. Not sure what he was thinking.
Necromancer
August 30th, 2009
10:23 pm
Jon Miller looks just like a friggin’ pumpkin!
Gov Clinton Tyree
August 30th, 2009
10:23 pm
Where the fu$% was that?
Doc Holiday
August 30th, 2009
10:23 pm
The Bird and Indian
August 30th, 2009
10:17 pm
No reason to be mad at anyone there. Mac hit it hard and the runners did what they were supposed to. Tough luck.
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I dont agree……………Mc has been a total clown …………. ZERO consistency…………you just cant count on him………..wonder WTH is he doing at the cleanup spot.
Im calling this one on COX………….you have to tie the game………….we had the chance to put the winning run at 2b……….all we had to do was bunt the ball. Of course, since we had our GREAT CLEANUP HITTER coming up, you just dont bunt the ball……..right? WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if Brian is not hitting as a cleanup hitter, you dont treat him like one……….you bunt the freaking ball and then your tying run is at 3b…………….I hate COX as much as John Miller!!!!!!!!!!!
PWHjort
August 30th, 2009
10:23 pm
Well, the good news is Brad Lidge is pitching the 9th inning.
jackets77
August 30th, 2009
10:23 pm
damn…didn’t even realize….why is soriano in??? where is gonzo???
pryguy
August 30th, 2009
10:23 pm
2 men on and no outs, and people on here want McCann to bunt?? This is the spot we want him to hit in and he hit the ball hard. He hits that in the gap, everyone is praising McCann. Instead, hindsight is 20/20 and Cox is an idiot for not bunting his clean up hitter in the spot we want him to be in. Some of you are simply irrational.
Gov Clinton Tyree
August 30th, 2009
10:24 pm
Way to go, MFIKY
chilidog75
August 30th, 2009
10:24 pm
Heath,
If the infield was in it was a two-hopper right at Utley. Prado would’ve likely been out.
But, its debatable whether Manuel wouldve played the infield in anyway — and risk the Braves taking the lead on a little bloop.
RHR
August 30th, 2009
10:24 pm
MFIKY is not impressed by Ryan Howard.
The Bird and Indian
August 30th, 2009
10:24 pm
We’re going to win this game. Brad Lidge is warming up. Laroche will hit one off of him.
N8
August 30th, 2009
10:24 pm
The REAL underlying problem isn’t what Mac was going to do in the cleanup spot in that situation, but simply that fact that Mac is IN the cleanup spot, with the way he’s been hitting.
Hugh Jazz
August 30th, 2009
10:24 pm
This ump sucks. He has called everything the Phillies way just to get the crowd going.
jed
August 30th, 2009
10:24 pm
why soriano here instead of gonzales? soriano’s doing well but…odd.
RHR
August 30th, 2009
10:24 pm
Ryan Howard, however, was scared to death of MFIKY. I could tell.
Efrim
August 30th, 2009
10:25 pm
Trade Jurrjens to the AL, get someone good, bring Medlen in the rotation….
But that wouldn’t be good for the Braves, so you wouldn’t really want that to happen, would you?
chilidog75
August 30th, 2009
10:25 pm
And when its all said and done, Chipper’s throw is the biggest play of this game.
Doc Holiday
August 30th, 2009
10:25 pm
COME ON BRAVOS…………GIVES US SOMETHING TO CHEER ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Heath
August 30th, 2009
10:25 pm
jeffrey -
You see those “shoulda’s” because of Cox’s strategy.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 30th, 2009
10:25 pm
“well he does have 26″
BIG PICTURE!!
The_Superhoo
August 30th, 2009
10:25 pm
lol wtf was that throw?
Paul Lentz
August 30th, 2009
10:26 pm
Gorecki sure like showing off that accurate arm of his.
Hugh Jazz
August 30th, 2009
10:26 pm
We need 2 RH power hitters next season and LaRoche and Heyward don’t count.
McFann Ô
August 30th, 2009
10:26 pm
Soph Can McCann even bunt? I mean, has he ever done it?
Yes. He even has a couple bunt singles in his career.
A-ville Ranger–
Good Q…
Mixxo no he can’t bunt.
Yes he cann. Don’t go spouting that he can’t bunt…
Tiger Woods
August 30th, 2009
10:26 pm
I hate this game.
Doc Holiday
August 30th, 2009
10:26 pm
chilidog75,
Chippers throw was not a bad one.
MiaBchBravesFan
August 30th, 2009
10:26 pm
Everything wrong with the Braves lineup was on exhibit there during the eighth:
No power
No speed
No hitting IQ
No OF play
No 3B play/power
No balance in the lineup
‘Nuff said.
Hugh Jazz
August 30th, 2009
10:26 pm
I meant 2 power hitters, preferably RH.
N8
August 30th, 2009
10:26 pm
“We’re going to win this game. Brad Lidge is warming up. Laroche will hit one off of him.
You’re assuming that the Phils aren’t going to score anymore runs, or that LaRoche will have runners on base, aren’t you? LOL
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 30th, 2009
10:26 pm
But that wouldn’t be good for the Braves, so you wouldn’t really want that to happen, would you?
If the Braves can get someone like Hunter Pence, do it. They don’t win when Jurrjens pitches anyways!
chilidog75
August 30th, 2009
10:26 pm
This will be the third walk of a guy that is in a 6 for 50 slump.
Mitchell
August 30th, 2009
10:27 pm
Gorecki bringing it with the bat and the arm tonight.
It would be nice if Soriano could get out of this but I have a bad feeling Gorecki is going down swinging to end the game.
Heath
August 30th, 2009
10:27 pm
chilidog75 -
OK….say there is an out on GA’s ball….we still get another AB….Escobar.
Doc Holiday
August 30th, 2009
10:27 pm
How many games have we lost because GA just can field his position at least as an average LF?
MEMO TO FRANK WREN
August 30th, 2009
10:27 pm
AND IF YOU HAVE TO TRADE SCHAFER AND/OR FREEMAN TO GET THAT IMPACT HITTER, THAN DO IT!!!!!
The_Superhoo
August 30th, 2009
10:27 pm
chili,
my point is, there are many batters who hit balls hard. and have .200 averages to show for it. I just don’t usually praise “almosts” as far as hitting goes. it’s either there or not.
pryguy
August 30th, 2009
10:27 pm
N8,
Hasn’t McCann been hitting the ball well as of late? Hasn’t he been one of our best hitters over the past 2-3 years? Isn’t he one of the hitters we want in that spot? Don’t be so critical when we had one of the best hitters on our club hitting in that spot. Instead, because he is hitting 4, you find fault somehow with where Bobby placed him in the lineup. Not surprising you would have something of the such to say, anyway.
Soph
August 30th, 2009
10:27 pm
Thanks for the info McFann. There were people on here saying he should’ve bunted but I think you gotta let your cleanup hitter swing. Bad luck happens, what can you do?
Churchman
August 30th, 2009
10:28 pm
ChiliDog…Whatever you are doing after the game tonight..I want in…My type of dude…Waffle house..Saddlescores…My treat…Know a great after hours theatre that caters to us..
chilidog75
August 30th, 2009
10:28 pm
Doc,
It wasn’t terrible. You’re right. It wasn’t great either though and there is no explanation as to why he was playing that far behind the bag to begin with – which forced him to have to make the bare-handed, hard-charging attempt.
Paul Lentz
August 30th, 2009
10:28 pm
Those of you criticizing Bobby for now having McCann bunt simply arent thinking straight. McCann has doubles/home run power. You dont “waste” his bat by having him bunt. Just not wise to do that.
Using Soriano right now was the right move by Bobby. Soriano is fresh, has great stuff. It is absolutely imperative that the Phillies do not score this inning.
Doc Holiday
August 30th, 2009
10:28 pm
MiaBchBravesFan,
Thats sad, but Im with you.
jackets77
August 30th, 2009
10:28 pm
sooo…when do u think Bobby’s putting in Norton? in the 8th or 9th spot in this inning? Just wondering…I think he’s gonna wait til the 9th spot incase there are ppl on base to make us all even angrier
The_Superhoo
August 30th, 2009
10:28 pm
Good work by The Scowl.