3:09 pm August 28, 2009, by David O'Brien
August 29th, 20092:09 pm
I won yesterday. You wimped out and went to bed. Enough said.
In my country, thats not the honorable way to win… I’m just saying….
August 29th, 20092:10 pm
Rob from SC,
You are one ungrateful “Braves fan” with your comments toward Chipper Jones, and stop trying to make yourself sound “smart” by saying “you’ve been saying this for a month or two”. Who gives a frak?
Is chipper struggling. Yes. Does he deserve criticism. Yes. Has he turned it around? Not yet. Will he? If you look at his track record…YES. How about a little fraking patience with the future HOF?
Many here tolerated Jeff F a&& for 18 months and wouldn’t dare call him out on the blog, but God forbid Chipper Jones, a man who bleeds Braves Baseball…struggles for a 3 week period?
August 29th, 20092:11 pm
George Brett is the only player in modern history to do what?…..
Braves NL ranks:
8th in runs scored
4th in batting average
5th in on base percentage
9th in slugging percentage
4th in ERA
4th in Starter’s ERA
5th in Reliever’s ERA
5th in strikeouts
16th in home runs allowed
4th in opp. batting average
4th in opp. on base percentage
3rd in opp. slugging percentage
August 29th, 20092:15 pm
I wish today’s game was a day game…
August 29th, 20092:16 pm
Had to laugh at the thought of the Braves offering anything to GA but showing him the door after ‘09. Yeah, he can still hit fine, consistantly–no, but he ain’t too bad at the plate. But, he’s atrocious in the field, is made out of glass these days, and doesn’t have that power the team needs going into the future.
Hope they don’t count on that Heyward to be their power supply either. How depressing would that be to Braves fans if they did? Can’t imagine they would though.
August 29th, 20092:18 pm
You snooze, you lose. It is what it is.
August 29th, 20092:20 pm
and the name of the album you have them in hahaha RHR
Hah! Someone actually said that to my friend and I after a game. He was cute and had a nice car, too…
August 29th, 20092:27 pm
Supes (August 29th, 2009 2:07 pm): “quite frankly sir, I don’t know if I should be scared or not! What’s with the “filing of quotes from fellow bloggers” to be used against them at a later time?”
Here’s a reprise of a comment from a couple of days ago:
. . . . .
Wayne in Utah (August 27th, 2009 12:22 pm): “Random copies and pastes ALL blog entries into another program (I assume Microsoft Word). Then he can search on keywords and bring up anything you want to know.
“Anything you ever said, is recorded for all of eternity.
“So, this is a good reason to not blog when drinking!”
Word is for sissies.
Since ST 2006, all this gets embedded in the cyber bowels of the chess computer Deep Blue.
I have instant telepathic access — as I read each comment, it’s doubly encrypted and inscribed in Deep Blue’s BIOS.
My “password” is the smell of burnt lemon, the memory of a toothache, the cube root of my SSN to five places, and the guitar intro to “Clash City Rockers”.
Back to now:
You should be no more scared than I myself am (which I admit is somewhat more than just a little). We should all be sure to really mean what we say, ’cause it’s all still out there somewhere, if you know where to look.
AJC.com archives, Google caches, Nixon’s servers, Rove’s lists, etc, etc.
August 29th, 20092:28 pm
I let you win because I was upset/depressed after yesterdays loss.
August 29th, 20092:30 pm
I agree w/ most of what you said there except the Francoeur statement…
No offense, but to any who didn’t call him out, they were either a) blind, b) stupid, c) a combination of both, or d) really in need of taking off the rose colored glasses…
And what Francoeur did the last couple years in Atlanta, struggle is an understatement!
Chipper’s #1 problem…he just use a real hitting coach that actually knows what he’s doing…
If anything is really wrong with this team, its that they need a new coaching staff…yes, I know this has been said before, but its really true…a new coaching staff that would actually implement the proper offense and play to the teams strengths, not its weaknesses.
August 29th, 20092:31 pm
It’s warm and sunny here now. Weather.com forecast says 50-percent chance of rain and thunderstorms by 9 p.m., but only about 30 percent an hour before and after that. So I’d say it looks much, much better than last night’s forecast (still find it hard to believe they got that game in).
August 29th, 20092:33 pm
Jurrjens4NLCY (August 29th, 2009 2:11 pm): “George Brett is the only player in modern history to do what?…..”
I know this one — he named his son “George Brett, Jr”.
What do I win?
Piedmont Blues (x-BFIR)
August 29th, 20092:37 pm
Chipper’s had three very good months (.900+ OPS) and two bad ones (.720-ish OPS, or, Frenchyland). I hope he rebounds in September, although that’s probably not enough to put the Braves back in the WC race.
He’s a sure HOFer, no doubt. He’s also older and more fragile. I think fans have the expectation that he can put up MVP-like numbers again, and that’s unrealistic. It’s probably wiser to believe that he’ll give you a .400 OBP, 15-20 HR, 25-30 2B, 90-100 BB, 85-90 RS.
Those are solid numbers, but they won’t carry an offense (and in this era, they’re not really good enough to be second fiddle on a good team).
I’m not saying you take him out in the back and shoot him, but it is time to stop expecting that he can be the cornerstone of the offense. The Braves need another hitter (or two) who can perform better than Chipper at this stage in his career.
August 29th, 20092:40 pm
Why do we continue pitching to Howard??? I dont get it!!
Why cant pitchers continue after a rain delay? the guys in the pen have been sitting around too. I know they havent warmed up yet, but is it really that dangerous for injuries?
August 29th, 20092:41 pm
The Braves need another hitter (or two) who can perform better than Chipper at this stage in his career.
Gonna be a tough task, but how about Heyward and a banger in LF(or first base).
August 29th, 20092:42 pm
Why would anyone be in a hurry to move Diaz out of the lead-off spot? The guy will give you a .300+ average (.500 right now…yowsa!), and like last night, with plenty of doubles. The “ideal” lead-off guy might have a lot of speed so that he can steel 2nd, but Diaz gets enough doubles that it makes that almost irrelevant…and he is more than fast enough to score from 2nd on a typical single. I like him in the lead-off spot, no one has really done any better in that spot for the Braves in a long time. When McLouth comes back, I’d leave Diaz in the lead-off spot with McLouth somewhere in the middle of the lineup.
August 29th, 20092:44 pm
Pschh, so was I. That’s a sorry excuse.
August 29th, 20092:45 pm
Piedmont Blues (August 29th, 2009 2:37 pm) –
Thanks for the forecast, Chief.
(still find it hard to believe they got that game in).
They could say it didn’t count and still play a DH tomorrow…
August 29th, 20092:48 pm
When Diaz is in, why not:
And when Church is in, why not:
Heath When McLouth comes back, I’d leave Diaz in the lead-off spot with McLouth somewhere in the middle of the lineup.
Give the kid a shot in the cleanup spot!
I wish some of our other players could go on a Diaz-like tear, too…BMac was on a good one, but it only lasted four games…
August 29th, 20092:51 pm
Steve from OH-
Ok, I’ve done my good deed for the day. Here are pictures of several Rome Braves.
August 29th, 20092:52 pm
Dear Zookey, I am most assuredly not a slob.
August 29th, 20092:59 pm
What do I win? -Random
Nothing. Because the answer is win a batting title in three different decades.
August 29th, 20093:00 pm
Over/under 4 hits for us today. Lee is going to own us. He is due for a bad start but with all our lefties we have no chance. Tomorrow starts a 10 game win streak though. Bank on it……I will go with under tonight. Only 3 hits for the boys tonight.
August 29th, 20093:03 pm
I like your lineups…
Why not indeed. But,you have to remember,Clux has Drain Bamage!
RHR, When I watch the Florida Marlins play I’m amazed. This is a team with a non-power catching platoon, a 2B playing 1B, a DH playing 2B, a Tremendous offensive force CF playing SS, no real 3B, a 2B playing LF, a LF playing CF and the worst oufielder of our generation playing RF. They have a great #1 starter, a fairly good #2 and 3-5 that have stunk all year. They have received good middle relief and pretty good set up men with no real closer. They have 2 Major League players on the bench. They have a Puppet as the manager. An owner that does not have the resources to be an owner. No fans, no stadium, no big TV deal.
I’ll ask you–Is Major League baseball, and ESPECIALLY the NL that BAD that this team can be 4 1/2 out of a Wild Card after 130 games?? i really can’t watch the Marlins play anymore. They are putrid and an insult to baseball sensibilities–except for ramirez and johnson. And yet this riff raff is tied with the Braves. Is baseball that bad??
August 29th, 20093:04 pm
Batting #1 15ABs, 2R, 8H, 3 2B, 3RBI, 1BB, 3 SO, .533/.563/.733/1.296
Small sample…but, no reason to take him out of that spot right now. As many times as he has been on base and as few times as he has scored just helps underline how poorly the middle of the lineup has performed of late.
Rome whooped the Savannah Gnats last night.
August 29th, 20093:05 pm
Heath, agree with you bout Diaz at leadoff..
August 29th, 20093:08 pm
Thanx for pix. but if I was that Barba kid,I’d sure as blazes change my number. He should think of his family walkin’ round in public like that!
August 29th, 20093:09 pm
Another reason I like Diaz in the lead-off spot -
Lead Off Inning 63AB, 24H, 7 2B, 2 3B, 7BB, 9K, .381/.443/.556/.999
That is PERFECT for the lead-off guy. Again, his runs scored when leading off are $hitty (0) because the people batting behing him have sucked (mostly batting at the bottom of the order). He is perfect option right now for lead-off.
Is there a more intimidating name in sports than “Gnats?” I’m cowering just thinking it…
August 29th, 20093:11 pm
Rob from SC
Did nyou like the Rube Waddell book
August 29th, 20093:12 pm
Brent Lillibridge hitting a salty .153 for the White Sox. Gosh wish we wouldn’t have lost him.
August 29th, 20093:13 pm
August 29th, 20093:15 pm
Yeah, he sounds like a crazy guy
August 29th, 20093:16 pm
What about Flowers?
August 29th, 20093:17 pm
I missed Teddy’ funeral. Damn the bad luck!
The A Bomb
August 29th, 20093:19 pm
It’s warm and sunny here now.
DOB — Is that really good news?
Cliff — get ready to carve the turkey.
I kinda like The Fighting Three-Toed Sloths. Don’t laugh, there are minor league teams with crazier names than that…
August 29th, 20093:20 pm
but if I was that Barba kid,I’d sure as blazes change my number.
I must be missing something…
August 29th, 20093:21 pm
RG, I’m assuming he saw a 9 on the end that wasn’t there…
August 29th, 20093:26 pm
Lou Vales, I wonder myself how those Marlins aren’t battling the Nats for 5th, but baseball is a based on a lot of luck. Look at the Phillies…yes, they have a ton of talent up and down, but we were talking earlier about how they never seem to have a key player go down with an injury. Utley somehow didn’t miss any time after having hip surgery, I believe, in the offseason. LUCK- LUCK- LUCK, LUCKY PHILLS.
August 29th, 20093:27 pm
OF/1B Garrett Jones hit his 15th home run in his 48th game since being called up from Class AAA Indianapolis on June 30, making him the fastest rookie to get to 15 homers in a season since Russell Branyan also did so in 48 games for Cleveland in 2000.
The guy HAS to be in the discussion for rookie of the year.
August 29th, 20093:33 pm
White Sox C prospect Tyler Flowers has been promoted from Double-A Birmingham to Triple-A Charlotte. Flowers batted .302 with 18 doubles, two triples, 13 home runs and 43 RBIs in 77 games for the Barons.
Roman Gal: #6 Think real hard!
How far are you from Naperville?
August 29th, 20093:34 pm
Saw Teheran on 3 different guns. His velocity was the same on all three. 92-93 consistently, topping at 94.
LINEUP (Church out yet again. I’m guessing the back again, but we’ll find out. Going down now.)
August 29th, 20093:36 pm
I would rather gorecki anyway against lee. Lee is brutal against lefties. Get as many righties in there as possible if u ask me.
August 29th, 20093:38 pm
Lou Vales: Yes, it is that bad. It’s worse. Guess you’ll just have to watch another sport until this one improves. (I’ll say anything at this point to end your melodramatic pontificating.)
August 29th, 20093:39 pm
Flowers has batted .277 with 2 HR 12 RBI with 31 strikeouts in 30 games at AAA. Looks like he played solid at AA not as well at AAA.
I’m surprised Infante isn’t playing center.
August 29th, 20093:40 pm
Blum, you could be right. Might just be a case of trying to get as many right-handers in there against Lee as possible.
Man injuries have been killing us for the last 5 seasons……………and our teams goes as our injuries go………… our SP have been the healthier onces………bad luck
August 29th, 20093:41 pm
Ta Da! Owe you a Blue Ribbon! Or a martini!
August 29th, 20093:42 pm
Lefties have one homer in 199 at-bats vs. Lee, hitting .226 with a .529 OPS (.248 OBP/.281 slugging)
30 – 35 minutes
August 29th, 20093:44 pm
Roche should sit, Prado play first, and Kelly plays second…
August 29th, 20093:46 pm
Thanks for those stats DOB. One homer ouch. He is dominate. Plus with the Phils he has been almost unscored upon. 5 starts 40 innings 3 ER 0 HR 24 hits. Kind of sick if you ask me.
August 29th, 20093:47 pm
Take that back, 25 – 30 minutes, depends on the traffic…
Me too. But,again I refer to my earlier postulation Crox has Drain Bamage!
August 29th, 20093:51 pm
Anybody else gonna drink during the Braves game tonight to try and make it look better?
August 29th, 20093:53 pm
Looking ahead briefly to tomorrow: Jurrjens is 3-2 with a 2.31 ERA in seven career starts, including 2-0 with a 0.92 ERA and .145 opponents’ average in three this season. Jurrjens is 2-0 with an 0.87 ERA in three starts at Philadelphia, with two runs and no homers allowed in 20-2/3 innings. Chase Utley is 4-for-19 with two home runs against him.
Wild Turkey for the Turkeys!
August 29th, 20093:54 pm
Ah, I see. You don’t particularly like Bobby. I, on the other hand, do like him.
August 29th, 20093:56 pm
DOB do you know what Ryan Howard’s numbers are against JJ?
Go up to the first Braves pitcher you see. Tell him,”Don’t let Howard get his arms extended. Pass it on!”
August 29th, 20093:57 pm
Let’s address the Phillies’ luck:
Myers got hurt. Romero was suspended for the first 50 games, pitched in about 20 games, and got hurt. Raul Ibanez had an insanely hot start, got hurt, and hasn’t been the same since. Rollins played like absolute garbage for the first three months of the season. Cole Hamels was hurt to start the campaign and has been a shell of what he was last year. Joe Blanton carried a 6.14 ERA into the month of June. Moyer had a 6.05 ERA as late as June 28th. Brad Lidge has had the worst season of his career. Hell, even Durbin and Condrey have missed time. Last, but certainly not least, eleven different guys have started a game for the Phils in 2009.
An unbiased observer would likely think that the Phils are lucky to be where they are right now with all of that bad luck, right? Injuries aren’t the only thing that can hold a team back. It’s true that the Phillies would be in huge trouble right now if three guys from this group (Utley, Howard, Victorino, Werth, Rollins,) had gone down for substantial periods of time, but with all the other bad luck the team has had this year, the Phillies wouldn’t even be in the hunt if that had happened. They’d be right down there with the Mets.
A Braves fan may hate the Phils, but that team deserves a lot of respect for its perseverance.
Shamus Thacker (August 29th, 2009 3:09 pm): “Is there a more intimidating name in sports than “Gnats?” I’m cowering just thinking it…”
That’s the Savannah Sand Gnats — a Mets affiliate. I’ve been to a couple of their games this year and last.
Intimidating? You be the judge:
“Sand gnats as we call them, are members of the family Ceratopogonidae or “biting midge” family. The sand gnat seems to be at its worst when the fishing is at its best! It hatches out in mass numbers when the temperature and season are just right for outdoor activity. . . . Eggs are laid in marsh mud, decaying plant material, and even standing water. Female gnats bite humans and other animals to extract a blood meal that is necessary for the successful development of their eggs.
“So why does it hurt like mad when a gnat takes a meal from your arm or, even worse, your scalp? The secret is in the mouth parts. Sand gnats don’t just puncture your skin like mosquitoes do. Instead they rip it open using sharp cutting teeth located on the mandible. After inserting two sharp, sword-like blades into the skin as anchors, the sand gnat uses the cutting teeth to rip up the skin and get the blood flowing. As if that weren’t enough, the gnat then squirts a chemical into the open wound to inhibit blood clotting. The tiny pool of blood that forms is then sucked up through a straw-like structure called the proboscis. Some human victims have allergic reactions to the chemical and must endure itchy red spots or even swollen welts.”
Sounds like Mets to me.
August 29th, 20094:08 pm
I like Naperville. It’s a happy little surburb, so lively.
August 29th, 20094:11 pm
Anybody watching this golf show I am putting on. I am the man.
August 29th, 20094:12 pm
Now, try this. In any given situation in the game tonite ask yourself,what would I (meaning you) do if I were managing. Got it,Okeh. Now see if Clox don’t do a 180!
Then as a recovering attorney,I can say ,”prosecution rests”!
August 29th, 20094:14 pm
Well, when it comes right down to it, this is the type of game we’re paying D. Lowe 15 million to pitch. Somehow he’s gotta figure out a way to shut down the Phils and outpitch Cliff Lee. Here’s a suggestion: DON’T FRIGGIN’ PITCH TO RYAN HOWARD!!!!
August 29th, 20094:16 pm
Anyway we could trade Chipper and prospects for Howard? What ya think DOB?
Luck is for rabbits. Them ole boys play ball. And BTW Lou,so do da Fish!
August 29th, 20094:19 pm
I hate seeing Gorecki in the lineup. He looks completely overmatched on most of his at bats. Oh well, guess you could also say that about Chipper during the past 3 weeks or so. Maybe they both will surprise me and have big games tonight.
August 29th, 20094:23 pm
Amen! BUT! Whadduya wanna bet,belt hight outside part of the plate. Their mind set seems to be ,”Naw he couldn’t do that agin!” Meanwhile,POW–ZOOM,right to the moon Alice! To quote Chester A. Riley,”What a revoltin’ deveopment this is!”
August 29th, 20094:26 pm
Why in the heck is Infante not in the line up with Lee on the mound??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
In defense of Gorecki,I have one word. NORTON!
August 29th, 20094:27 pm
Relievers: we’ve had our share of decent relievers get hurt too (Carlyle and Campillo), you just forgot about those routine injuries because the Braves had all sorts of other stuff happen.
Lidge: the fact that they got one luck-driven masterpiece out of him last year is the luck. They traded for Lidge at a low price because he was a roughed-up closer that Houston wanted nothing to do with. He is what he is: not that great.
Be fair minded on Rollins and Ibanez. If Rollins’ initial poor performance is bad luck then Ibanez’s torrid stretch is certainly good luck, correct?
When you rely on Blanton and Moyer you’re bound to have some rotation struggles. The only good luck there is that Blanton has pitched as well as he has. Oh, and the fact that Cleveland was willing to be fleeced for Cliff Lee is also a little help.
Myers: every team has a starter go down from time to time. It happens all the time.
None of this is debilitating bad luck. Rather, if these are the problems a team incurs, that team is likely to be pretty happy. It turns out they’ve had a pretty good fortuned last couple of years.
The Braves fortune: not good. Hudson, Chipper, McCann, Lowe, GA (spring training, slow start on account of that), Schafer wrist – tried to fix with McClout = hurt, Church, Johnson – tried to fix with Prado = hurt. The only great luck: Diaz and Prado.
August 29th, 20094:28 pm
“An unbiased observer would likely think that the Phils are lucky to be where they are right now with all of that bad luck, right? Injuries aren’t the only thing that can hold a team back.”
Or an unbiased observer would say that while injuries aren’t the only thing that can hold you back, when they happen they are more definite in deciding a teams fate. I mean, its not being biased, the phillies have been incredibly lucky with not having to deal with any major or nagging injuries to their team. Its not bad luck that Romero got suspended for using something he’s not supposed to. Thats part of the game right now. And Jimmy Rollins struggling is not bad luck because as you see him still being healthy gave him the chance to turn it around. Chippers struggling right now but given his history there is a chance he could still turn it around. Can’t turn it around on the dl no matter which way you cut it. Sure Myers went down but he wasn’t exactly pitching well and look at what J.A Happ has done, its way better than what Myers was giving them.
Whats the total number of games that Ibanez and Hamels missed due to injury? No one ever said they didn’t have any injuries, they just said they have not been major or nagging. There is a difference in going on the DL for a stint and never knowing when your players will be back like the mets or having season ending surgeries like so many braves players had last year. A team can sustain or survive the shorter stints. I mean the mets of 2009 didn’t really start to really fall out of the race till after the all-star break like the braves did last year. The injuries begin to take its toll when those non every day players or those spot starters have to be out there consistently and the league gets the book on them. The phillies are a good team, thats not to be debated but when it comes down to it they have been very lucky, blessed or whatever you want to call it not to have to deal with any siginifacnt loss to their team.
One of these days Alice.
August 29th, 20094:33 pm
Oh my gosh…that lineup…
[Holding back all comments with all of her might…]
The Phillies just have better hitters. Why is there a debate? It isnt even close.
August 29th, 20094:35 pm
The Phillies have a meaner manager.
DOB Lefties have one homer in 199 at-bats vs. Lee, hitting .226 with a .529 OPS (.248 OBP/.281 slugging)
Brilliant…(rolling eyes agitatedly)…
Anyway we could trade Chipper and prospects for Howard? What ya think
I don’t think they would take Chipper and the AA roster.
August 29th, 20094:37 pm
You know FOX is going for ratings when I am sentenced to watch Cubs vs. Mets as the “Game of the Week”.
“The Phillies just have better hitters. Why is there a debate? It isnt even close.”
I just want to know who said they didn’t? Did someone look at our vaunted lineup today and say that it could bludgeon Cliff Lee. If anything people have been saying how bad this braves offense has been for most of the year. But hey, thanks for pointing out the obvious.
They have a better 1st baseman, 2nd baseman, shortstop, left, center & right. We have a better catcher & 3rd baseman. That is the difference of the 2 teams. Pitching is pretty equal except for closer.
August 29th, 20094:38 pm
I’m not at all surprised Gorecki is in LF instead of Infante, and neither should any of you be. Bobby probably realizes this may be one of the last few times the kid tastes the majors for awhile since he’ll likely be sent down when McLouth comes off the DL Monday. Right/wrong?
Anyways, Bobby is notorious for this, win or lose be damned. “Go get ‘em Grecki!! ARRGGGGG!! You can do it sport!!” Ok, that’s probably a little dramatic, but Cox has a knack for getting under fans skin, so…
August 29th, 20094:39 pm
You welcome Jake that is what I am here for son.
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