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CB
August 27th, 2009
5:10 pm
?
Eddie Haskell
August 27th, 2009
5:10 pm
Norton’s OBP is around 338
Carroll Rogers
August 27th, 2009
5:13 pm
Also Ryan Church was in the original lineup but his back was a little sore. He said it was just sore, and not having spasms, so he expects to get back in there soon, tomorrow in Philly included.
braves4ever
August 27th, 2009
5:14 pm
Carroll, thanks,
great news on Huddy ,6 man (rest)rotation, BC up Acosta down , now if we could just get 2 more important things, a REAL bench hitter, and someone with some speed in LF . Good steps ,maybe too late.
DHD
August 27th, 2009
5:14 pm
Yep…stick a fork in us, we’re done. It’s football time.
McFann Ô
August 27th, 2009
5:14 pm
People who spend so much time bashing KK need to look at his stats…He has made NINE STARTS where he has given up 3 runs or less only to get a loss or a no-decision.
This is not counting his June 24th start, in which he was knocked out in the third after being hit by a line-drive. It is also not counting these 3 starts: April 21, 4 R, 2 ER–May 27, 4 R, 3 ER–June 2, 4 R, 3 ER, where the team made errors that led to some of those runs. He got the loss in the first two and a no-decision in the last one.
He’s given up 6 runs or more only TWICE. His main thing is that he needs to go deeper into games. But this being his first year playing in the US, he hasn’t been that bad.
McFann Ô
August 27th, 2009
5:14 pm
Thanks for the info, Ms. Rogers!
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 27th, 2009
5:14 pm
Present!
CallUpConrad
August 27th, 2009
5:15 pm
While I think that the Braves are done, I have to applaud them for this season. This team does not have the talent of Philadelphia or Florida, but they have competed. Frank Wren has done a nice job of getting this team competitive this season. They were woefully inadequate against the Phillies, Marlins and anyone else they played last season. I hope they don’t fall into “playing out the strand”. I hope they finish strong, spoil someone’s season and build toward next season. Although Garret Anderson hit better the later the season, Matt Diaz got hotter than a firecracker and Ryan Church did an admirable job filling in wherever he has been asked, there are still glaring weaknesses in the everyday lineup. While the forementioned Diaz did get hot, he just is not an everyday player. Ryan Church is a good fourth or fifth outfielder. Garret Anderson just does not have the pop in his bat to start every day. In essence, the Braves need two outfielders with some pop and/or speed. Is Martin Prado going to be what he has been since entering the starting lineup once again next season? Is this the real Chipper Jones at this point? Will Yunel Escobar progress into a more consistent power threat? Will the Braves bring back Adam LaRoche? And one final thought. The Braves are rally missing character and leaders on this team. Is Chipper Jones really a leader? I don’t see how he is. Remember the days when you had players like Dave Justice, Sid Bream, Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine and John Smoltz. I don’t mention them because they were great players, they were great leaders. This team needs a few.
Daybed Wagmoe
August 27th, 2009
5:16 pm
Any weather reports? The radar is not looking good at all for tonight’s game…
Daslied
August 27th, 2009
5:16 pm
Kevin, since “A” Johnson came back on July 23rd, the Braves are 12-6. Way to base a post in facts!
Madre Padre
August 27th, 2009
5:17 pm
We’ve been in Charger mode for almost 2 months now! go Padres!
The A Bomb
August 27th, 2009
5:19 pm
I am so relieved Acosta will be back. I’m sure there’s a ton more of pitches in that arm. Maybe even in one game!
Whew!
Shamus Thacker
August 27th, 2009
5:19 pm
Was gonna crack wise-azz about urgency, but felt no urgency to do so. Maybe later…
pete nose
August 27th, 2009
5:19 pm
The Braves are a mess and it starts with chipper jones.most of the players mull around like they could care less. there is no life left in this bunch.mighty casey has struck out.
Daslied
August 27th, 2009
5:19 pm
I like how I chastised someone for not using facts and then I got them wrong…Braves are 17-13 since he came back, 12-6 in his appearances.
Still…not exactly “falling”, or whatever Kevin said.
tralfaz
August 27th, 2009
5:21 pm
“Don’t look now but Francoeur (61) has more RBIs than Chipper (55). …”
Well, Frenchy has gotten away from TP, and Chipper is just waiting on hunting season
Shamus Thacker
August 27th, 2009
5:22 pm
What’s Ed Nortons WA (Walking Average)?
Steve from OH
August 27th, 2009
5:23 pm
Kevin–what? I don’t speak idiot.
Jeff R
August 27th, 2009
5:24 pm
Good that Francouer is enjoying a career revival in NYC. But he wasn’t doing it in Atlanta. Moving Francouer for Church was still the right move.
Brightside
August 27th, 2009
5:24 pm
Did Ed Norton’s daddy used to play on the Honeymooners?
wjones
August 27th, 2009
5:25 pm
“Don’t look now but Francoeur (61) has more RBIs than Chipper (55). …”
Well, Frenchy has gotten away from TP, and Chipper is just waiting on hunting season
Frenchy also has been hitting behind David Wright, who gets walked so Frenchy can be pitched to. Meanwhile Chipper, even in the midst of his slump, gets walked so all-star McCann can be pitched to. McCann has more RBIs than Frenchy.
Bat Masterson
August 27th, 2009
5:25 pm
Steve from OH
August 27th, 2009
5:23 pm
Kevin–what? I don’t speak idiot.
Some might consider that subjective.
Daslied
August 27th, 2009
5:25 pm
Shamus – 21% of plate appearances. Pretty dang good, actually.
Cheese
August 27th, 2009
5:26 pm
Well we aren’t going to the playoffs
Jeff R
August 27th, 2009
5:26 pm
Chipper’s worn out. Not used to playing so many games. I doubt Cox will sit him down, not as long as the Braves are mathematically in the race.
Steve from OH
August 27th, 2009
5:27 pm
Touche.
Shamus Thacker
August 27th, 2009
5:27 pm
If teams would pitch quail to Chipper he’d bat .600 Heard those curvequails are murder though.. Not to mention split-finger fastquails…
CrimeDog
August 27th, 2009
5:28 pm
You can tell how urgencyless the Braves are. They know rain is coming but they refuse to start the game early. Bunch of cowards…
NO MORE BOBBY
August 27th, 2009
5:29 pm
GOOD NEWS – There is still a month of baseball left this season.
BAD NEWS – We have to watch the Braves play it.
Steve from OH
August 27th, 2009
5:29 pm
21% of plate appearances. Pretty dang good, actually
He’s a professional hitter, folks. Just look at his discipline. You know he’s well trained.
Ebenezer Snerdberg
August 27th, 2009
5:29 pm
ALLRIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Timmer to pitch agin da fish Monday. Kamakazi on a siding. Acosta sent packin’(released was too much to hope for). Here at Area 51 South it’ rainin’ cats n dogs! Hope it clears I will enjoy tonite with word of these changes. Hope Blobbie give Lawry Wain a sit to start. Mebbe P/H. What does it take to get shut of Norton?!?
Shamus Thacker
August 27th, 2009
5:30 pm
Y’all should give Chipper a break. Hell, maybe he’s just drunk or hung-over like The Babe…
Bat Masterson
August 27th, 2009
5:30 pm
nodding
ncgary
August 27th, 2009
5:31 pm
anyone seen distrtict 9yet? not much sense in talking baseball braves quit playing it
McFann Ô
August 27th, 2009
5:31 pm
wjones Meanwhile Chipper, even in the midst of his slump, gets walked so all-star McCann can be pitched to.
Yeah…that’s rather degrading. Shows how little managers around the league seem to know about him ([cough cough] Hurdle! [cough cough] Manuel! [cough cough]…) I mean, yeah, Chipper’s a dang good hitter if there ever was one, but…
Hey, I went on a stat-finding mission the other day to find out what BMac’s numbers are when Chipper is (officially) intentionally walked in front of him. If my findings are accurate, here’s what he has done:
3-5 (.600) with 1 2B, 1 HR, 5 RBI, 1 BB (intentional), 1 SO, and 1 SF.
NO MORE BOBBY
August 27th, 2009
5:33 pm
That lineup sucks! The players don’t but batting order does. Not sure why everyone on here knows Roach should bat cleanup but Bobby. Or at least go with what worked so well against the Dodgers.
Im convinced Cox has lost his old mind.
faninva
August 27th, 2009
5:35 pm
McFann -
good post on KK. Plus, he’s gone head to head with a lot of opposing staff aces and has won…
Jeff R
August 27th, 2009
5:36 pm
Braves have had a good season, so far. They’re on track to win 85 or so games. Better than the 72 they won last season. Jurrjens and Hanson are emerging as studs. McLouth and Prado (if he gets over his headaches) really improved the lineup. So did LaRoche, who should be resigned.
All in all, Soriano, Gonzo and Moylan have pitched well. Medlen is going to get better.
Vazquez has performed beyond expectation. Lowe has pretty much met expectations. Chipper may actually play 140 + games.
Overall, a big step forward.
Thomas
August 27th, 2009
5:36 pm
Face reality, The braves have pitching that is a little above average. What they lack is Power in the lineup and they are at least two players shy of that task. The leading power hitter has 17 home runs. The Phillies have 4 players with 25+ round trippers. Maybe this time next year they will be in contention but as for this season, IT’S OVER!
Shamus Thacker
August 27th, 2009
5:36 pm
Daslied, that’s right around the Walking Mendoza Line; for Ed Norton that’s GREAT!
Allen
August 27th, 2009
5:36 pm
The season was lost in June. A great July and August can get us over .500 but we’ll end up short of the playoffs by just the handful of games we let get away through too many LOB or walkoff losses thanks to those 3 or so weeks in June
pete nose
August 27th, 2009
5:37 pm
Hey–the braves are done.cut the oven off.
Ebenezer Snerdberg
August 27th, 2009
5:37 pm
Red pinstripes! Wonder if they’ll be a #17 named Channel? boy did the commissioner get P/O’d at Teddy fer that’un!
Shamus Thacker
August 27th, 2009
5:38 pm
Haven’t read the Huddy piece yet. How’s it gonna affect the roation?
Ebenezer Snerdberg
August 27th, 2009
5:39 pm
Seems ever time I total LOB on my cards,I have to take off my shoes!
Steve from OH
August 27th, 2009
5:39 pm
Face reality, The braves have pitching that is a little above average.
This brings us to fundamental problem #1 of the blog–the inability to properly establish what exactly “league average” is, and then use that standard to evaluate our performance as above or below that.
Seriously dude? A little above average? Our pitching is the best in the league.
The A Bomb
August 27th, 2009
5:39 pm
Andy Messersmith — No. “Channel” 17!
Jeff R
August 27th, 2009
5:39 pm
Braves need to move Kawakami if they want Hudson in their ‘10 plans.
Maxwell Smart
August 27th, 2009
5:40 pm
Who is pitching tonight?
turkey
August 27th, 2009
5:40 pm
Time to start thinking about next year and what needs to be done. Thank God football is here.
faninva
August 27th, 2009
5:40 pm
Instead of “Is this it” for the blog title, maybe it should have been -
“This is it” – meaning win tonight or it’s over…plus, a pretty cool song -
You think that maybe it’ over
Only if you want it to be
Are you gonna wait for your sign – your miracle?
Stand up and fight
This is it!
Chop Chop
August 27th, 2009
5:42 pm
Shamus,
Huddy’s appearance in the rotation clinches a World Series berth.
Ebenezer Snerdberg
August 27th, 2009
5:42 pm
Hey 86,
Vasquez!
Steve from OH
August 27th, 2009
5:43 pm
Huddy’s appearance in the rotation clinches a World Series berth
See, now this guy really gets it. Props to that guy!
Maxwell Smart
August 27th, 2009
5:44 pm
Hey, I have some buddies in the moving business. Can we get them to help move Kawakami? Will he being moving uptown, or downtown?
jeffrey d
August 27th, 2009
5:44 pm
Steve – you’re forgetting that we had a bad pitching game yesterday, so that’s pretty much the standard when evaluating the entire season.
But on the plus side, while our staff is on pace to allow 15 runs per game for the rest of the season, McCann’s on pace for a .600 average and is good for a homer a game. And he should drive in about 120 the rest of the way.
Maxwell Smart
August 27th, 2009
5:45 pm
Ebenezer
Thanks Chief!
Jeff R
August 27th, 2009
5:45 pm
Braves pitching is well above average, based on Hanson and Jurrjens alone.
Maxwell Smart
August 27th, 2009
5:46 pm
I am new to this blog. Is everybody always this negative, and not so SMART?
Jeff R
August 27th, 2009
5:46 pm
I think he’ll be moving back to Japan – with any luck.
jeffrey d
August 27th, 2009
5:46 pm
I think Huddy’s appearance in the rotation clinches a dynasty.
That and calling up Brooks Conrad.
Shamus Thacker
August 27th, 2009
5:46 pm
Jeff R: Lowe has pretty much met expectations.”"
Musta been some mighty low expectations…
Nova Scotia Steve
August 27th, 2009
5:46 pm
3-2 Dodgers…Let’s hope they can hold on!
JBoog1285
August 27th, 2009
5:47 pm
Maxwell – You would be 100 percent correct in that assumption … uneducated party poopers, prettymuch sums it up
jeffrey d
August 27th, 2009
5:47 pm
I am new to this blog. Is everybody always this negative, and not so SMART?
If you’re seriously new, and that’s a legitimate comment, that is hilarious.
Yes, we’re generally a negative and stupid population here.
Chop Chop
August 27th, 2009
5:47 pm
It’s a gutsy move, Steve.
The Braves’ testicular fortitude is off the charts now. Huddy’s a red-blooded American monster truck of emotion, grit, and heart.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 27th, 2009
5:48 pm
Trevor Hoffman claimed on waivers….I wonder
Shamus Thacker
August 27th, 2009
5:48 pm
Haven’t read the Huddy piece yet. How’s it gonna affect the roation SCHEDULE? Lets try dat…
Maxwell Smart
August 27th, 2009
5:48 pm
I saw Brooks Conrad play in Gwinnett, and he ain’t that good folks?? We need somebody like Manny Ramirez. Is he available?
The only way he can play a good second, is if he plays it on the geetar.
Brightside
August 27th, 2009
5:48 pm
jeffrey d I’m glad someone thinks we ought to call up Conrad.
Steve from OH
August 27th, 2009
5:49 pm
Braves pitching leads the majors in FIP, 4th in ERA, 1st in HR/9, 6th in K/9, 8th in BB/9 (thank you, Jeff Bennett), 5th in WHIP, 5th in BA against, all with very average BABIP and LOB%. Our staff is pretty doggone good.
jeffrey d
August 27th, 2009
5:50 pm
oye….
Steve from OH
August 27th, 2009
5:50 pm
But testicular fortitude doesn’t promote a sense of urgency, Chop Chop. In fact, it has the opposite effect.
Come back, KK….
Jeff R
August 27th, 2009
5:50 pm
Shamus Thacker… I think ol Lowe’s numbers are about on par for his career averages. We didn’t think that the Braves were signing another Santana last winter, did we?
Next year, if Lowe’s around, I think he’s the #4 starter behind Jurrjens, Hanson and Vazquez.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 27th, 2009
5:50 pm
Actually now that I look at the numbers…its not good.
Has Atlanta put anyone out of the waiver wire???
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 27th, 2009
5:51 pm
Braves season went down as soon as the bullpen gave up those 8 runs
Maxwell Smart
August 27th, 2009
5:52 pm
thank you jeffrey d and Jboog1285.
That clears up a lot for me! Actually, there are a few who are pretty funny, and some others who seem to be OK. But then again, there are a few that I wouldn’t invite over for the pool party.
BravesfaninWis
August 27th, 2009
5:52 pm
Now I know I could care less about the Braves season.. I am excited about the fact that Tim Hudson will start next Monday for the Braves, not because we are in playoff contention, but to see if he has anything left. I already know we are done as far as the playoffs go, the Braves are not a good enough team to deal with what it will take to make it.
Now we will see if the Braves will exercise Hudson’s contract next year and allow Vazquez to leave in FA, or try to bring Javy back and allow Hudson to walk. I personally wish we could keep Hudson and Vazquez and let Lowe or Kawakami go, but that will cost to much. Wishful thinking I know, but hopefully we will have a new manager and pitching coach next year to hopefully bring this team and pitching staff back to where it once was..
Steve from OH
August 27th, 2009
5:53 pm
I think ol Lowe’s numbers are about on par for his career averages.
More or less. His FIP is right on par with his previous three seasons, and he’s been victimized by a very high BABIP. His K rate concerns me a bit, but he still gets a lot of grounders and doesn’t walk many, so he should be a sub-4 ERA pitcher moving forward.
BravesfaninWis
August 27th, 2009
5:54 pm
NO MORE BOBBY
August 27th, 2009
5:29 pm
GOOD NEWS – There is still a month of baseball left this season.
BAD NEWS – We have to watch the Braves play it.
LOL, and amen to that..
Chong
August 27th, 2009
5:55 pm
Maxwell Smart,
I have plenty of Baby Ruth bars for your pool party.
Kendawg
August 27th, 2009
5:55 pm
Not only are the Braves done, but Chipper’s done as well.
Maxwell Smart
August 27th, 2009
5:56 pm
Wisconsin guy, I think you should stick to cheese. You don’t seem to know beans about the Braves if you believe that stuff your spouting.
Jeff R
August 27th, 2009
5:56 pm
Steve from OH… I think you’re right.
Dan Kolb
August 27th, 2009
5:57 pm
Apparently last night’s loss really upset my mom. She loved getting on here every night with you guys (i dont know why i think you are all weirdos), but now she says she just cant take it anymore. Would some of you be kind enough to offer my mom some encouragement so maybe she will get back on here this evening? I would appreciate it. I have to go now, my shift at rite-aid starts at 6:30.
richbrave
August 27th, 2009
5:57 pm
Yes, the way things worked out, the BRAVES are between a rock and a hard place where LOWE and VASQUEZ are concerned. But they may up the ante and keep both next year and HUDSON in a six man rotation. Not likely, but it could happen. I’m concerned about higher pay for the closers in the pen however.
pete nose
August 27th, 2009
5:57 pm
Lets all take up a collection and get chipper some glass’es like Mccann has maybe thats whats wroung with him.
Einstein
August 27th, 2009
5:58 pm
I realize that most of you on this post are smarter than me; however, please tell me why/how can Mr. .128 Norton and Mr. “I’ll cost you” Acosta still be on our roster? Do we not have anyone who is just as bad/good, but will improve with experience? I have been very patient with Bobby, but he is a f^%$ing senile idiot! Am I the only one (and I’m not a baseball expert…maybe nuclear physics) who thinks that Cox is the problem? All of you know that to solve a problem, you go after the root cause, not the symptom. Retire Bobby with honors and hire a real manager, and watch the Braves win, BIG. There is a lot of talent on this team. My buddy “The Truth” is correct when he said that Homer Simpson would have won at least four WS with the talent Bobby had. Cox= Omar Minaya. Anyway, just my opinion…peace.
wjones
August 27th, 2009
5:58 pm
As far as power goes, aren’t we second in homers since the all-star break? Outside of Norton and Infante, everyone is some kind of power threat at the plate. Well, Goricki based on minors numbers. The other ten?
Prado and Church are capable of hitting 10-15 homers with a full season.
Escobar, Diaz, Anderson, and the good Kelly all capable of 15-20 per year.
Project Ross numbers over a full season and he would be capable of 25-30.
McCann and Chipper easily capable of 20-25 per year.
LaRoche capable of 30-35.
That’s us. No 40 homer guys, just a good top-to-bottom lineup. And I didn’t even count McClouth, who’s another 20-25 guy. We need to be healthy, and maybe one upgrade or so in the lineup, either Heyward or a vet bopper placeholder.
We are not fast, but some of that is conservative coaching, I am convinced. Even medium-to-slow players can make things happen on the bases.
Maxwell Smart
August 27th, 2009
5:58 pm
Chong
My kids pulled that one a few years ago. Now, I tell them that anything found in the pool, will be served for breakfast the next morning. Haven’t had any more candy bars since then.
Brandon from Warner Robins
August 27th, 2009
5:58 pm
I dont understand why those who claim that the season is over are still here.
Thomas
August 27th, 2009
5:58 pm
The pitching staff is good but they are not great.
richbrave
August 27th, 2009
5:58 pm
DAN K:
Say hello to your boss, JOHN MALONE for me will you DANO?
Shamus Thacker
August 27th, 2009
5:59 pm
Maxwell Smart: My kids pulled that one a few years ago. Now, I tell them that anything found in the pool, will be served for breakfast the next morning. Haven’t had any more candy bars since then.”"
Sure it was candy bar?
Steve from OH
August 27th, 2009
6:00 pm
The pitching staff is good but they are not great.
Evidence, please. Define “good” and “great” and then show me why the Braves fall into the former category.
jeffrey d
August 27th, 2009
6:01 pm
That clears up a lot for me! Actually, there are a few who are pretty funny, and some others who seem to be OK. But then again, there are a few that I wouldn’t invite over for the pool party.
Wait til you meet Paul Lentz.
PWHjort
August 27th, 2009
6:01 pm
doesn’t walk many
He’s walked 50 batters this year. 5 more than he did last year. In 52 fewer innings. His K’s are down, his LD% is up, his GB/FB is down, his XBH% is up, and his IF/FB is down. The only thing he’s been as good at as he was last year at is limiting home runs. I’m very concerned.
Maxwell Smart
August 27th, 2009
6:01 pm
Albert Einstein was supposed to be smart, like me. You might want to think about a different name the next time you get on the AJC Braves blog.
wjones
August 27th, 2009
6:02 pm
“BravesfaninWis
August 27th, 2009
5:52 pm
Now I know I could care less about the Braves season.. I am excited about the fact that Tim Hudson will start next Monday for the Braves, not because we are in playoff contention, but to see if he has anything left. I already know we are done as far as the playoffs go, the Braves are not a good enough team to deal with what it will take to make it.”
Dude, didn’t you say you were done about a month ago? Why are you still here?