1:55 pm August 27, 2009, by Carroll Rogers
Brandon from Warner Robins
August 27th, 20094:10 pm
Tim Hudson returns monday vs Marlins.
August 27th, 20094:12 pm
Huddy’s gonna get lit up. He’s NOT ready.
Chipper 3rd & Mc cleanup………..got to love it………..they are just killing the ball.
The Braves are 10th in the majors in runs scored since LaRoche came along (Aug. 1st). They are 5th in the National League. Only those who have a personal hatred of Bobby Cox would think there is something significantly wrong with the way he’s made his lineup since LaRoche joined the team. Only those whose hatred of Cox overshadows their knowledge of the game.
August 27th, 20094:13 pm
ERA doesn’t tell the whole story. Here is a good example from Rob Neyer:
The A Bomb
Count — nothing better than Braves baseball followed by 20 episodes of Andy Griffith.
Bring it back!
Tulo with a seeing eye ric flair……tie game.
The baseball gods love the Rox.
The season is lost. Might as well let Hudson get some games in to see if he still has it.
August 27th, 20094:14 pm
I’m enjoying the “props” discussions from ncscoots and RHR, et al. Even laughed out loud a couple of times. Props!
Atlanta chance of rain is 60% from 7PM till 12AM (70% at 9 though).
Their “sense of urgency” (lol, why did it all of a sudden become urgent? If they took the padres more seriously the outcome might have been different) might have to wait until tomorrow
August 27th, 20094:15 pm
“Does Chipper make outs 72 percent of the time he comes to the plate as Francoeur did? Who cares about RBI? You shouldn’t!”
Well, when one guy batted 6th, 7th or 8th in the game, and another guy is LOCKED IN to the 3-hole, I think RBI do come into play.
Perhaps Chipper makes outs less often than Francoeur does. But for starters, he should. He’s being paid much more, he’s the leader of his respective team, and his manager has deemed him the best hitter on his team by batting him 3rd.
So while Chipper probably makes outs less often than Jeff does (or did in a Braves uniform), Chipper has arguably faild just as often in “clutch” situations, and situations that MOST 3-hole hitters are asked to come through.
The fact that Chipper is in the 3-hole and has only 55 RBI should be alarming to ANY Braves fan. Like I’ve said recently. As long as a 37 year old Chipper Jones is relied upon to carry this offense, we will struggle to be consitently good.
Regardless of whether you think RBI are a be all, end all stat for hitters (I don’t, btw), you can’t ignore the fact that 55 RBI in 111 games (126 team games), from your #3 hitter, is pretty pathetic, and is front and center to our offensive issues, imo.
Find me another contender that has a player that has played in 111 games (or more), that has 55 or less RBI, and I’ll stop saying it matters.
The bottom line is that Jeff was blamed for our offensive struggles early in the year (and the past couple of years). If we’re being fair to Jeff, Chipper deserves just as much blame for this season, if you ask me.
I don’t think there is anything significantly wrong with the way Cox has handled the lineup. But as Steve from OH said, why GA higher than LaRoche?
Since the season is lost, why not bring Glavine back to pitch the last home game of the season? That way he can retire as a Brave and walk off the field one last time in Atlanta.
Kelly sucks too.
They guy tears it up for a week in April, sucks for two months, gets injured, comes back, gets two big homeruns and then goes right back to sucking.
If we found out a way to make the playoffs I would have no doubt that he’d let a ball go through his legs with two outs in the 9th.
August 27th, 20094:16 pm
I wonder if Chipper is regretting the remarks he made presumably towards KJ and Frenchy about gettting rid of the “easy outs.”
Braves “sense of urgency” = a trip to the can after a big dinner.
August 27th, 20094:17 pm
So Bowman says Hudson is taking KK’s spot. (Braves website)
the braves are done, period, and it’s the SAME problem that’s done them in that they have suffered for years…THESE BRAVES CANNOT HIT AND SCORE RUNS….i disagree, games like last night happen, it’s the game monday nite that signalled the official end of the season…had to score a run in the bottom of the 9th to keep it alive?? come on…just look at the games from the past week or two…they usually score all of their runs in just one inning, and that’s it for the night…until they get some bats that can put it in play, they’re not going back to the playoffs…..and two questions, 1) WHAT WAS THAT PATHETIC bunt attempt by Diaz Monday night?, and 2) is it just me, or does G. Anderson just look like he could really care less about having to walk up to the plate to strike out??????
August 27th, 20094:18 pm
I don’t know if this has been mentioned, but Acosta has been optioned to AAA and Buddy Carlyle has been recalled. Tim Hudson will start in place of Kawakami on Monday. I don’t know any plans going forward or the corresponding roster move(s).
“You folks really think batting LaRoche higher than Anderson or vice versa would make any difference? Study up, folks.” Shaun
I know this much as a fan. I want the guys swinging the good stick, getting more AB’s each game, and the guys that are struggling to get less AB’s during the game.
Common sense prevails and states that the only way to guarantee that somebody gets the most AB’s they can in a game is to be higher in the order, and on the flip-side, if you want to limit the “damage” a struggling hitter can do, you drop them in the order.
Not sure what is so hard to understand about that.
been saying since 96, this team is not built on blue collar guys. Just a bunch of good athletes and no common bond, no excitement. It’s all comes down to this lay back style of management.IT’S FREAKING TIME TO MOVE THIS MANAGEMENT TEAM OUT…NOW. BREWERS DID IT LAST YR.
August 27th, 20094:19 pm
Just let Kakawaki pitch big games against aces and he’ll be fine.
Braves Grrrrrrrrl ……………. Thanks for the props you gave me in your 4:14 posting. “I” have tried REPEATEDLY to tell these MORONS about the “sense” of URGENCY we need to have. Some of you people who are saying “well its just one game” are MORONS and if you get real mad about it and get some URGENCY then the “BRAVES” will win every game. That’s just all there is to it.
I couldn’t think of anything intelligent enough to earn “props”,so I guess I am such a failure.
Steve from OH
“Tim Hudson will make his regular season debut for the Braves on Monday against the Marlins.
The Braves have decided to have Hudson skip his last Minor League rehab start, which was scheduled for Friday.
Hudson, who is coming back from Tommy John surgery on his elbow, will replace Kenshin Kawakami in the Braves rotation. The Braves have not indicated how Kawakami will be used upon Hudson’s return.”
I wonder what Paul Lentz thinks of this?
Hudson: 7-2, 2.63 career against the Marlins.
August 27th, 20094:22 pm
And props right backatcha, Braves Grrrl! Yessir, props are a wonderful thing.
Count de Monet
August 27th, 20094:23 pm
To those of you who have no problem with the way Cox makes up his lineup, have you forgotten when he ran Frenchy, Kelly Bleeping Johnson and Schaefer out there night after night?
Could it be this team is in dire straits now before Cox blew it in the first half of the season?
Frank Wren kicking ass first and taking names later today, huh?
KK in the bullpen will be an …. interesting experiment.
August 27th, 20094:24 pm
Steve from OH,please don’t ask him.
August 27th, 20094:25 pm
And I probably have failed to mention this, but the exquisite use of quotes and caps by RHR is just, well, exquisite. Just makes everything so clear and understandable.
August 27th, 20094:26 pm
No rest for Chipper? Think maybe he’s in the dog house a little bit for his “I’m tired” remarks in the press and is making up for it or being penciled in for reason?
Carlyle is back. Can Bennett be far behind?
RHR……..big-time “props” for that posting!
August 27th, 20094:27 pm
Just looking for a ride from the Braves long enough to drop me off a few days from football season. Looks like I’m gonna make it.
We’ll check back in April to see if they have a major league lineup to go with a very good starting pitching staff.
I love it when you call me Big Proppa.
August 27th, 20094:29 pm
Doc H. Chipper 3rd & Mc cleanup………..got to love it………..they are just killing the ball.
Hey, BMac is 7 for his last 13 with 2 homers and 9 RBI, and 13 for his last 36 with 5 homers and 15 RBI.
couldn’t think of anything intelligent enough to earn “props”,so I guess I am such a failure.
No way, Ray! CB, you are the epitome of props, my man. Propping you is implicit, maybe, but always there. Props to CB!
August 27th, 20094:30 pm
That being said, I do like him in the fifth spot better…
forget the curveball, Ricky
August 27th, 20094:31 pm
working our way back to .500
way to go team!!
Frenchy said,”the Braves still have an easy out in their lineup.”
August 27th, 20094:32 pm
thanks scoots,I am so happy!
Whoever posted that Heyward and Freeman would not be called up, I hope you are wrong, but the signs point to you being right. Before Wren visited Mississippi Heyward was letting his bat do the talking telling Wren that he was ready for the big leagues or at least a September call up, he was hitting around .420. Since Wren left he is hitting around .220. Wren must have told him he would not be with team until the spring.
August 27th, 20094:33 pm
Good news on Buddy C. Hope he can come back strong. Props to him for the hard work.
Negative props to Acosta. Too much arm and too little head.
And Steve from Oh, if it were me, I would want the lineup to go LaRoche, Infante, GA, pitcher, but thats just me…
August 27th, 20094:35 pm
flange–yeah, I’d bat GA 8th too, but I know that 7th is as far as I can reasonably hope for.
Mid Town Joe
August 27th, 20094:36 pm
Looking forward to the 11 PM remarks on how tired Chipper looks, and how we gave up 5 runs after the 7th inning.
Myers could become the Fillies closer when he comes back?? Oooo! Do it, guys! Do it!
Although I did like him a lot as a starter…he was up there with Ian Snell, Jason Bergmann, and Mike Pelfrey.
August 27th, 20094:37 pm
jeff bennett got released.
Buddy Carlyle recalled? Good for him!! I hope he does well!
Too much arm and too little head…you talking about our favorite blogger again?
August 27th, 20094:38 pm
Good move starting Hudson on Monday. They’ve got to see what he’s got. They have a decision this off season on whether to pick up that option.
August 27th, 20094:39 pm
You rooting for the Philthies now? I’m pulling for them to keep trotting Lidge out there in save situations.
August 27th, 20094:40 pm
2 words for those wondering why the Braves stink. ( Pendleton, and Cox )
props to Chong at 4:37, LOL. That’s as accurate a description of the obnoxious little numbletard as I’ve seen, LOL.
August 27th, 20094:41 pm
quick – let’s all enjoy the blog before Mr. Urgency gets here….
August 27th, 20094:42 pm
Asset allocation in a tight economy is important,, so even though the packaging is inferior at the .99 store, the sense of urgency product itself, is first rate. This will leave you with the money to buy a big fatty to smoke, to take the edge off. I know we all agree a sense of urgency is important, still if its spent too soon, well, someone is going to be unsatisfied.
Brew Crew losing again!
August 27th, 20094:43 pm
The infield next year looks set if we sign LAroche. McCann, Roachy, Prado,Yunel. The big question mark now is Chipper. Platoon I suppose of Church and Diaz in RF, McClouth in LF or CF depending on if we sign a Big BAt and where does he play? If we can no longer count on Chipper hitting .300 with 20 HR’s and 90 rbi then we may need 2 big boppers instead of just 1. Maybe Diaz can get CHurch into his PX 90 offseason workout for his back. I don’t know who is available but looks like we may need a 40 HR guy in left!
Escobar for Supreme Court
August 27th, 20094:44 pm
It wont matter how good Hudson does in his return if we cant score runs to back him up. All of our pitchers could have at least 15 wins if the offense was constant.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
Calipari hasn’t been caught, but the teams he coached had to vacate Final Fours. And in both cases, he was one step ahead of the law. I’m guessing there are a few uncomfortable people in Lexington.
August 27th, 20094:45 pm
Hey, I got props! Thanks, ncscoots. Nice to know someone gets my twisted sense of humor (even if it does fit in this case).
I would like to see universal urgency with a low-cost public urgency option to ensure competition with private urgency.
monty- Im guessing our outfield is going to look something like this LF-Diaz Church Platoon CF- Schafer and or McLouth prolly McLouth though. RF- Heyward or a free agent pick up.
Bases juiced for LA….Loney up……2 outs.
“Carlyle is back. Can Bennett be far behind?”
Well, since Bennett was RELEASED and IS WITH ANOTHER TEAM NOW, I’d guess that he would be VERY FAR BEHIND.
Until I read the thing about Hudson starting on August 31, I figured that they would just wait an extra day for him and McClouth so they wouldn’t have to monkey with the roster. For Hudson to get activated for his start, the Braves not only will have to move a player (probably Boone Logan) for at least a day, but will also have to knock someone off the 40 man roster. With McClouth they would just have to knock someone off the 25 man for a day, but it seems like a whole lot of movement for not much to me. UNLESS Frank has something in the works?
KK in the pen? Hmmm. It could work. His problems seem to come after the 5th, so maybe he could be lethal for an inning or two. I’m sure he’s the long man for Huddy that day anyway, not expecting him to go much more than 5.
And one more thing about the Kelly-Prado thing. In May Prado had a groin injury and also HAD AN AWFUL MONTH HITTING. KELLY OUT HIT PRADO IN MAY. In June Prado started feeling better and started hitting better, while Kelly’s bat absolutely froze up. The combination of Kelly not shaking the slump and Prado getting so hot that he couldn’t be ignored forced Bobby to start Prado, bench/DL Kelly and call up Conrad. But in May, I repeat, KELLY WAS OUTHITTING PRADO. Go to Baseball Reference and look both players for May if you don’t believe me. We can debate how much time in June Bobby should have given Kelly, particularly if he was nursing an injury, but Prado was also playing through an injury as well.
August 27th, 20094:46 pm
Wow, we are extremely short on position players but we decide to bring up, uh, Buddy Carlyle???? Just another inexplicable move by BLUNDER…I am glad that football season is only a week away.
August 27th, 20094:47 pm
It’s time to clean house! Really, I have to vacumm the den and mop the kitchen floor.
August 27th, 20094:48 pm
Well, McFann -
the devil-face hex on the Padres didn’t work yesterday…my fault. I’m open for suggestions. Maybe a voodoo doll thing?
Man! Timmy starting on Monday…
Heck no! I like Lidge a whole lot, too! But Brett Myers rocks!
When I start grouping pitchers with Ian Snell, Jason Bergmann, and Mike Pelfrey, you have to know it has something to do with that one certain split…
August 27th, 20094:49 pm
I can’t wait to get on this blog tomorrow and revell in a glorious sweep of the Breves.
August 27th, 20094:50 pm
Yeah, I think it backfired…maybe St. Jude could give the team a pick-me-up…
August 27th, 20094:51 pm
…take a sad song and make it better.
August 27th, 20094:52 pm
I know we all agree a sense of urgency is important, still if its spent too soon, well, someone is going to be unsatisfied.
Well, you got THAT right, bubba, and disurgent and unsatisfied ain’t no way to go through life. No bloggette is gonna put up with that **** on the back of the bubblegum card, LOL.
Madre Padre -
Yeah? ….and if the Dodgers lose, you guys will only be 20 games out!
August 27th, 20094:53 pm
Nova Scotia Steve
August 27th, 20094:56 pm
Who is Kawakrappy? What a wierd name.
Typical Braves: they have sent Acosta down to AAA. It’s like waiting for a guy’s 10th DUI arrest to send him to jail.
August 27th, 20094:57 pm
The Braves are a pathetic, soft, comatose team with ZERO ability to hit with runners in scoring position.
August 27th, 20094:58 pm
You realize the Braves could, if they wanted to, add 15 position players to the roster in FOUR DAYS, right? I mean, it’s not going to have that much of an impact.
August 27th, 20094:59 pm
The Kawakami signing was one of the worst free agent signings by the Braves in recent memory. A very reckless way to spend $36million!! This guy is 34 years old, and had NEVER thrown a pitch in MLB before this season! He can’t every make it past the 5th inning! They would have been better off with Glavine!
I understand that this team is extremely frustrating, but to say season over is dumb. 5 1/2 back in the WC is not that bad, considering how hot Col. has been. yeah, I know it’s a long shot, but it is possible. Maybe Huddy shows up and gives this team a lift when they seem to need it most. The Chipper bashing is embarassing. The guy has been a face of the franchise for over a decade, but as soon as he struggles everyone hates him. get a clue.
August 27th, 20095:00 pm
So nice to see you again Russell!
Russell….It was $23 million….they would not have been better off with Glavine….I hate the signing too.
August 27th, 20095:01 pm
Bringing back Carlyle may be dealing from strength. I’m not sure where you’re going to find a bat in the minors to help this team very much. (Don’t say Barbaro or Conrad. Who are you going to bench if you play them?) But Buddy may be able to prevent a few runs and give Moylan, Gonzalez, and Soriano a bit of a breather.
Shaun Only those who have a personal hatred of Bobby Cox would think there is something significantly wrong with the way he’s made his lineup since LaRoche joined the team.
That’s not true…
Course, I wouldn’t say what’s wrong is “significant”…
August 27th, 20095:02 pm
It was still alot of money. I actually think it was $24million. $8million/year.
Never underestimate the will of the Braves to tease.
Remember September 12, 2007? The Braves were 74-72 and 9.5 games out. The Phillies were 76-69, 7 games out.
The Braves won 8 of their next 10 to get to 5.5 out with 6 to go. The Phillies won 9 of their next 10 to get to 1.5 out with 7 to go.
The Braves and Phils then played a series with each other. If the Braves had swept the Phils, and then swept the Stros, they would have finished in a tie for first with the Mets.
The Braves won the first game against the Phils to get to 4 games out, but then proceeded to lose 4 of their next 5 to finish 5 games out, while the Phils won 4 of their last 5 to win the division.
Never underestimate the ability and will of the Braves to tease.
It’s funny that, not more than 3 weeks ago, people were saying Acosta wasn’t that bad and he should pitch more to lighten the load on the rest of the pen. Now, those same people are complaining that he got shelled. Unreal.
August 27th, 20095:03 pm
I just like to point out Greg Norton leads the National League in Pinch Hit appearences with 75.
Are you kidding me?
August 27th, 20095:04 pm
And I’ll never forgive Smoltz and Hudson for losing to the likes of Kendrick and Lohse in the last two games of that Phillies series the last week of 2007. An unforgivable sin.
Can’t wait to read a 3 page story from paul lentz about KK and Huddy…..it’s going to be a classic.
August 27th, 20095:05 pm
I never ever said Acosta wasn’t bad – EVER -
Just thought I’d point that out – It actually never even crossed my mind -
August 27th, 20095:06 pm
I just read an article a couple of days ago in the AJC that gave stats showing the Braves are either 1st or 2nd in the league in hitting with RISP.
Another great piece of info by Nova Scotia! How a guy hitting .167 -or somthign like that lead the league in PH appearances? Terrible managing!!
So you guys got the news on Hudson starting Monday and Kawakami being skipped a start in the rotation…First of all, I think the timing of the move speaks to the urgency of their situation and for that, I think y’all should be happy. Hudson said he told the Braves (aka Roger and Bobby) he was ready after his last start in the minors. We’ll see if he’s ready, but not sure what a difference two days make for those who say he’s not ready. He was on schedule to debut on Wednesday either way.
Bobby said yes they considered a six-man rotation and no they will not pitch Kawakami out of the bullpen. And he said yes, Kawakami will start again. But they’ve got flexibility here in five days when rosters expand.
Yes Buddy is up and Acosta is back to Gwinnett. Cox said Acosta threw a ton of pitches and they could use a fresh arm. Acosta will be back in 10 days, Cox said.
August 27th, 20095:07 pm
Put puttin in A Johnson playin and we lose again since A Johnson return we been goin down as fast as bobby cox picks his nose!and Norton why do we keep a 148avg when conrad is hittin (oh wait cox brain storms).sorry hudson returns get shelled by phillie put a fork in the braves n get ready for cox ben arrested after beatin his wife soon!
August 27th, 20095:09 pm
Carroll – great information – thank you!
August 27th, 20095:10 pm
No Kawakami in the bullpen, but he is being skipped. Looks like some rest for starters is in the works.
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