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jeffrey d
August 28th, 2009
11:36 am
Josh Anderson was playing RF for the Royals in that highlight
Philliephanphorliphe
August 28th, 2009
11:38 am
What’s up Braves fans? Are you ready for the dose of reality this weekend?
Chris
August 28th, 2009
11:38 am
Chipper needs to Phone home! Call Larry.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 28th, 2009
11:39 am
Hey Soph,
How’d you sleep?…..I DON’T CARE HOW YOU SLEPT!
Philliephanphorliphe
August 28th, 2009
11:39 am
I am I big fat homosexual!
Brandon from Warner Robins
August 28th, 2009
11:40 am
Popcorn anyone?
dogsbrekky - here filly filly filly, take this
August 28th, 2009
11:40 am
jeff d – we used to get the cuts, you know a caning on the hands, man that hurt, but our most sadistic teacher used to whoop us on the behind with a huge cricket bat, still hate that man…
but JJrNLCY – any and all Alice Cooper lyrics are welcome
Pete
August 28th, 2009
11:42 am
Jeff R: “Wren needs to make a run at retaining LaRoche’s services. Two years and an option?”
I agree, but highly unlikely LaRoche signs for less than 4 years, + option. The Braves should probably do that deal if reasonable, and worry about Freeman later, or package him in a trade for an outfielder maybe.
Thrillhouse44
August 28th, 2009
11:42 am
Philliephan…wouldn’t that be “phat”?
I think Lew could design the WWRFD bumper stickers.
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
August 28th, 2009
11:42 am
Jurrjens
Picture this: Summer of 1974 at Keesler AFB in Biloxi, Mississippi.
Last day of our 9 month long training. We all march back. (50-60) young airmen getting ready to head out to their duty assignments. Our First Sergeant was getting ready to do a final inspection and release us for good.
Our student leader for the entire squadron, whom I went on to serve with at Travis AFB a few weeks later, had sneaked up to our barracks room, where he had positioned his two large speakers at each window of our room. He turned on, as loud as it would go, Alice Cooper’s School’s Out, then hustled down the back stairs.
You couldn’t hear yourself think, it was so loud. My buddy Kevin was what we called the “red rope” student leader. The first shirt was so ticked off, he busted Kevin and caused him to miss his flight the next morning back to Oklahoma for some leave.
Everytime I hear that song, I smile and remember that day with fondness.
Philliephanphorliphe
August 28th, 2009
11:43 am
We’re cancelling school for rain now?
No, my school caught on fire…
I remember having to walk to school in a simultaneous tornado, earthquake, and hurricane, and I still got a padellin’ for being 12 seconds late.
That never happened…:D
Shamus Thacker
August 28th, 2009
11:43 am
Folks have reasons for their political beliefs. It would really hurt if somebody like RHR stopped liking me because of mine. I have good reason for believing what I believe; others, with different beliefs, have good reasons too. Most of my friends are polar opposites to me politically. They haven’t gone through some of the things I’ve gone through, and vice versa. We all understand that, it’s cool.
My twin nephews were murdered a few years back. A wavering capital punishment proponent beforehand, it completely solidified my stance. That’s how circumstances and life experience can form a person’s thinking. Folks have personal reasons for their beliefs. I hope nobody holds mine against me…
Pete
August 28th, 2009
11:44 am
AndyC: “You guys and gals realize that if the Braves had taken care of the lowly Padres in the first two games of the series we would be sitting all alone in second place in the wildcard standings just 2.5 games out?”
Nope; would have had identical record with San Fran.
jeffrey d
August 28th, 2009
11:45 am
Wow dogsbrekky…I was kidding. I remember my kindergarten teacher would sometimes hit us with a yardstick, but after that, picturing a teacher using any kind of physical discipline seemed unheard of.
Philliephanphorliphe
August 28th, 2009
11:46 am
dogsbrekky,
Hell yeah it is
Wayne,
That’s an awesome story, a great song….
David O'Brien
August 28th, 2009
11:46 am
Spent the past hour in line at baggage services in Philly and on hold with Delta baggage services (imagine that).
Yes, Delta did the seemingly impossible: Lost a bag on a direct flight from Atlanta to Philadelphia, after I checked in more than 1 hour before the flight.
Unbelievable.
Daslied
August 28th, 2009
11:46 am
Was it mentioned that Nyjer Morgan is out for the season with a broken hand? Well, he is.
jeffrey d
August 28th, 2009
11:46 am
That never happened…:D
You’re right…I made that up.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 28th, 2009
11:46 am
Oh fck!…. That was supposed to be me…. HAHA Busted!
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 28th, 2009
11:48 am
Damn, I’m embarrassed! You’d think I’d be able you remember to switched the names…..
Brandon from Warner Robins
August 28th, 2009
11:48 am
That sucks DOB.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 28th, 2009
11:49 am
You’re right…I made that up.
I know
fleming
August 28th, 2009
11:50 am
Question for the blog!
If we switched blogs right before game time and didn’t let Paul know, how many 1000s of cut and paste posts would he make before he realized he was the only one there? And will he bring the server down when he tries to repost all the garbage?
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 28th, 2009
11:51 am
The world would be a better place if Buster Olney was a mechanic or something… Check out his recent garbage, if you have the wherewithal!
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4426474
Random
August 28th, 2009
11:51 am
Philliephanphorliphe (August 28th, 2009 11:39 am): “I am I big fat etc!”
Perhaps you should change your blognomen to “Philliephanphorlipo“?
Steve from OH
August 28th, 2009
11:51 am
I have good reason for believing what I believe; others, with different beliefs, have good reasons too.
Exactly! Which is exactly why it should be left off the blog! Ain’t no one here gonna convince someone to believe differently, and well, if you’re trying to take jabs at Paul Dentz, it ain’t working. If anything, he’ll have another meltdown and he’ll seriously insult another innocent bystander like mitchie-san. I too want him to apologize to all our servicemen and women, but we know that ain’t happening (shame). Let it go, and bash him for his baseball posts–like I said before, it should give you more than enough material.
Soph
August 28th, 2009
11:52 am
JJ -
I know you really do care – deep down you do so I’ll answer that question. I slept well. The best sleep I’ve ever had.
P.S.: Stay in school.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
August 28th, 2009
11:52 am
DOB (11:46),
Had the same thing happen to me with Southwest when I returned to Denver to get married. The bag had my wedding suit. Fortunately, another SW flight originating in Raleigh came in two hours later with my bag aboard. And while we waited, the vendors at DIA got about $40 in food and drinks we would have spent somewhere else.
Philliephanphorliphe
August 28th, 2009
11:52 am
Yeah that usually happens only in Philly MR. OBrein. hey, someone used my moniker illegally! Who posts such slanderous and vile things?
Shamus Thacker
August 28th, 2009
11:55 am
DOB, I believe willieg is head of Delta’s bag management division…
Philliephanphorliphe
August 28th, 2009
11:55 am
Oh i see now it some NYC jurrjens fellow. You have been busted. Just like the Braves will be busted after this weekend.
southern hope
August 28th, 2009
11:55 am
DOB:Never (and I mean never) check your bags…you’re going for just 3 days right? You can totally put that into one suitcase….
Frankie Wren
August 28th, 2009
11:55 am
It’s actually very easy process to get LaRoche to start hitting early in the season. When he drives up to Lake Buena Vista in Spring training, Frank, John and Bobby greet him and ask where he went hunting during the allstar break. He gets into midseason mode immediately and by the time he realizes what’s really going on, he’s raking for the next 6 months. Quite easy.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 28th, 2009
11:57 am
I know you really do care – deep down you do so I’ll answer that question. I slept well. The best sleep I’ve ever had.
P.S.: Stay in school.
*Thinking to myself* *Now that my school has burnt down (I wish), this is the perfect time to made the switch, but I must never tell Soph, for leverage purposes*
Yeah so this is kinda a bad time to made the switch for me right now…
*Perfect! Soph has no chance against my reverse psychology…*
DAP
August 28th, 2009
11:57 am
petehighly unlikely LaRoche signs for less than 4 years, + option.
what makes you say this? contracts for guys not named teixiera and sabathia are down quite a bit lately.
Brandon from Warner Robins
August 28th, 2009
11:58 am
Shamus Thacker – I thought Homer held that position.
flange1
August 28th, 2009
11:58 am
Jurrjens4NLCY ,
Was was the Buster Olney article so bad? It did not offend me at all! What did I miss?
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 28th, 2009
11:58 am
Oh i see now it some NYC jurrjens fellow. You have been busted. Just like the Braves will be busted after this weekend.
Really?? Thats your comeback, ALL this potential! And you blow it….
fleming
August 28th, 2009
11:59 am
Frankie Wren – Frank, John and Bobby greet him and ask where he went hunting during the allstar break.
That only works if we can send him somewhere July hot to hunt right before the season.
jeffrey d
August 28th, 2009
12:00 pm
DOB, I believe willieg is head of Delta’s bag management division…
Can you imagine? I’ve always imagined willieg as this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t_wxeN3xJk&feature=player_embedded
Brandon from Warner Robins
August 28th, 2009
12:01 pm
jeffrey d thats hilarious.
DAP
August 28th, 2009
12:01 pm
so, following up a previous post…would anyone be willing to take a chance on conor jackson for next season?
also, mike cameron, braden looper, craig counsell and jason kendall have cleared waivers. do the braves have any use for looper or cameron?
you
August 28th, 2009
12:02 pm
Enter your comments here
dogsbrekky - here filly filly filly, take this
August 28th, 2009
12:03 pm
DAp – Cameron yes, Looper no, well not unless we want to destroy our hr against stat
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
August 28th, 2009
12:03 pm
DAP
Maybe Cameron, but probably not with McLouth coming back.
RHR
August 28th, 2009
12:05 pm
Shamus – didn’t say I would stop liking you, just that I would (privately) have a different view of someone if everyone ran around shouting their political beliefs. Like I said, I would prefer not to know.
BravesFAN885
August 28th, 2009
12:06 pm
that’s why you gotta carry everything on these days, dob
N8
August 28th, 2009
12:07 pm
DOB,I’ve seen this video used a couple of times with different subtitles, but with all the Favre stuff going on, I think this is the best one. Check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VfHnCwLp14
Anders
August 28th, 2009
12:10 pm
What’s up Braves fans? Well, you folks ready to watch a game in front of an actual crowd tonight? Should be crazy. Pedro vs. Hanson. Classic spring/winter match up.
The Braves lineup should be able to handle Pedro. It’ll be interesting to see how Hanson does. That’s a tough Phillies line up.
Speaking of “crowds” – there wasn’t 1,000 people at the Mets/Marlins game yesterday. Granted it was a day game – but come on. Selig keeps talking big but there are some markets that are just a waste of time. Starting with Miami.
Pete
August 28th, 2009
12:10 pm
DAP: “what makes you say this? contracts for guys not named teixiera and sabathia are down quite a bit lately.”
Very true DAP but then you have Furcal, Milton Bradley, and Casey Blake all signing for 3 years and I think LaRoche is a step above those 3. Also his 1st time as FA I believe, and I doubt he will take less than 4.
Note many of those signing 1-2 year deals are much older than LaRoche; seems as if the average age for FA (except the 2 you mentioned) last year was unusually high?
N8
August 28th, 2009
12:10 pm
Jurrjens4NLCY, what was so “garbagey” about Olney’s article? Am I missing something?
Nova Scotia Steve
August 28th, 2009
12:11 pm
DOB…that’s sucks man…
Did you just check one bag???
Philliephanphorliphe
August 28th, 2009
12:12 pm
We will not collapse like thouse lousy mets did a couple years ago. Our pitching is much improved, and well everyone knows about our little offense we have up here.
TommyP
August 28th, 2009
12:13 pm
Something tells me N8 posted a Hitler video. Those things are hilarious. I loved the one talking about Auburn’s new football coach.
Chong
August 28th, 2009
12:14 pm
Wayne in Utah
August 28th, 2009
10:23 am
Does RHR have a thingy for Pedro?
Only if Pedro is a very, very lucky man!
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 28th, 2009
12:15 pm
N8, thats hilarious!
DOB's Luggage on a flight to the caribbean
August 28th, 2009
12:15 pm
What? I hate Philly, boss. I begged you to send Carroll instead but noooooo you and your hoagies and record stores.
bravesgrl4life
August 28th, 2009
12:15 pm
DOB, Delta did that to me and hubby one time on a direct flight to Flint, MI. Our bag didn’t even make it on the plane. When it didn’t show up on the belt, we called and found out that it was still sitting in Atlanta. Were told it would be put on the next flight up and that it would be delivered to my in-laws’ apartment down in Marysville. Well, that next flight must have been about 8 hours later since the bag showed up some time in the middle of the night. Good luck with getting yours. At least Delta has more flights going to Philly than to Flint.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 28th, 2009
12:16 pm
Another big series with Philly – ho hum – these days it seems.
But alas we’re only 4 1/2 games back with Colorado/SanFran goin at it this weekend as well.
I think we knock Pedro around for 5 or 6 runs tonight…he’s due for a rough up and so is Cliff Lee…guys’ gotta lose sometime…
We have good pitching lined up for this series again…It will be interesting to see how Hanson reacts to facing Philly in a hostile environment.
DOB's Luggage on a flight to the caribbean
August 28th, 2009
12:16 pm
So I took matters into my own handles.
faninva
August 28th, 2009
12:17 pm
catching up on blog reading from last night after loggin’ off. yikes – what a turnaround the blog took last night. Tone went from jovial and fun to just plain nasty – it’s amazing what one idiot can do to this board.
DOB's Luggage on a flight to the caribbean
August 28th, 2009
12:17 pm
And did you see the weather in Philly for this weekend? You’ll be dreaming of my dry underwear and hairspray during those long rain delays. Heh. Heh. Heh.
bravesgrl4life
August 28th, 2009
12:17 pm
Question: who left the window open and let the Filthy mosquito in???
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
August 28th, 2009
12:18 pm
RHR
The blog is a different animal. The majority of my friends in the real world, know how I feel about a myriad of things. I don’t disrespect their beliefs, nor do they disrespect mine. I can tell a good friend to get his head out of his azz, and he is not offended.
On a blog, it is a different animal. Our relationships are so limited, which makes it so much easier to hurt feelings or have our feelings hurt. The anonymity of the blog also allows us to be “bullies” and not have to pay the price of being such.
I am still very dissappointed in the lack of control of the blog. I let my frustrations come between me and some of my “friends” on the blog, for that I am truly sorry. I was trying to make a point, and in some small way, I guess I have.
I would like to apologize to all those who have been offended by me trying to make this point on the blog. In the end, it really doesn’t matter. I think it’s like spitting into a river. Nothing really changed. Nothing was changed, and only I looked silly.
As I have told others, my ability to blog is going to be severly curtailed after this weekend. I will check back in on my friends and for sure, I will still listen to all the games I possibly can.
Again folks, please accept my sincere apology if I have offended you. I am not changing my beliefs, and I still think there are some things going on that I would love to talk with you folks about, but I understand you really don’t want to hear it. I’m OK with that.
Have a great weekend!
Anders
August 28th, 2009
12:18 pm
I always said Ben Stiller could play DOB in “The DOB Story”. Now DOB has the whole lost bag thing going that Stiller had in “Meet The Parents”.
A weekend in Philly with no luggage. Borrowing clothes from Bowman, chewing nicorette gum because his favorite cigars are lost – ok you get the idea.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 28th, 2009
12:18 pm
We will not collapse like thouse lousy mets did a couple years ago. Our pitching is much improved, and well everyone knows about our little offense we have up here
You know I’m a Braves fan…right?
Also, a little spell check doesn’t hurt anyone…
Anders
August 28th, 2009
12:19 pm
DOB’s luggage – Those are great posts. I’ll step aside.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 28th, 2009
12:20 pm
“The DOB Story” – Really???
LOL
DOB's Luggage on a flight to the caribbean
August 28th, 2009
12:20 pm
It’s all good, Wayne. Have a good weekend! I know I will.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 28th, 2009
12:20 pm
Anders,
DOB in Bowman’s clothes? I love it!
DAP
August 28th, 2009
12:21 pm
pete
those guys you mentioned,signed pretty early. furcal and blake signed in december, and bradley signed in early january, so that before the market really went south and guys like bobby abreu started getting offered 1 year $5mil.
i honestly dont think laroche has a chance to get more than 3 years anywhere.
Anders
August 28th, 2009
12:22 pm
Wayne- I have no idea what happened but you’ve always been a solid blogger. We all get carried away from time to time. Take the mulligan.
brian
August 28th, 2009
12:22 pm
DOB – how many times has Delta lost your bags? Didn’t they lose your bags on a West Coast trip a year or two ago?
TnBrian
August 28th, 2009
12:22 pm
See, even rival fans like Anders love DOB. Love is a strong word for someone I’ve never met, but if he gives me all the Braves I can handle, I guess I do love him. I love you Dave!
faninva
August 28th, 2009
12:23 pm
Wayne- I have no idea what happened but you’ve always been a solid blogger. We all get carried away from time to time. Take the mulligan. – Anders
Me too – btw, my previous post was not referring to you.
DOB's Luggage on a flight to the caribbean
August 28th, 2009
12:24 pm
You suck ups wouldn’t love him if you had to travel with him!
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 28th, 2009
12:24 pm
Do you guys remember “Saltlake”?
coach joe
August 28th, 2009
12:24 pm
Dave: hope you didn’t have your glove in your bag.?? :+)
Shamus Thacker
August 28th, 2009
12:24 pm
southern hope: DOB:Never (and I mean never) check your bags…you’re going for just 3 days right? You can totally put that into one suitcase….”"”
Now, how in the Hell can somebody get 500 CDs in one suitcase!?
monty
August 28th, 2009
12:25 pm
What do the Braves have to do to win the WC? JUst keep winning right? Everything will take care of it’s self. But what kind of numbers are we talking about? The Rockies are sitting right now at 72-56, they have 34 games left, if they play 2 games better than .500 the rest of the way they win 90 games. THat seems to be a sure thing barring a collapse of sorts(hey we can all wish right?) the question is will they go over 90 and if so by how much? If they go 20-14 they win 92, that would make us have to go 25-10 to tie, 26-9 to win. THat’s asking for an amazing run. If the Rockies go 19-15 then we have to go 24-11 to tie. If per chance the Rockies only went 18-16 then we would still need to go 23-12 to tie.THose 2 losses to the PAdres were killer. I believe we have the pitching to do it. Do we have the hitting and will the Rockies come back down to earth and allow us back in if we do our part?
Wayne in Utah (WWRFD)
August 28th, 2009
12:26 pm
N8
“At least we have Mamma Mia” Hilarious!
monty
August 28th, 2009
12:29 pm
Game looks iffy tonight due to rain.
Philliephanphorliphe
August 28th, 2009
12:32 pm
Hahnson is due for a rough up tonight; not pedro. Pedro is like the energizer bunny. He keeps going and going and going. Kind of like the new lithium battery advertisments. Not only does he keep going and going and going but at an accellerated ultra competitive level that the Braves are sure to experience tonight.
Ebenezer Snerdberg
August 28th, 2009
12:33 pm
“Only Women Bleed”
Alice Cooper
Shamus Thacker
August 28th, 2009
12:34 pm
Philliephanphorliphe, you just became our anti-jinx for the night. Along with egg sacs…
Ebenezer Snerdberg
August 28th, 2009
12:34 pm
So,Hansen should be Topper Harley and blow him away!
Chong
August 28th, 2009
12:35 pm
Shamus Thacker
August 28th, 2009
12:34 pm
Philliephanphorliphe, you just became our anti-jinx for the night. Along with egg sacs…
Shamus,
Philliephanphorliphe is a sac, but a different kind of sac.
David O'Brien
August 28th, 2009
12:36 pm
Shamus, Southern Hope, others who apparently wear the same clothes and shoes every day on week-long trips and rotate your underwear:Thanks for the tips. But you really don’t need to tell me how to travel. Been doing it for a couple decades now for work. I’m not That Guy who tries to stuff a too-large bag into the overhead, for one thing. For another, most of our trips are 7-10 days. You don’t carry toiletries for 7-10 days, not to mention clothes for 7-10 days, in one bag that fits in an overhead.
That is, unless you take three shirts and rotate them, and wear the same shoes ever day, and don’t take workout gear, etc. Sorry, Shamus, not that guy. I’m wearing seven different shirts on a seven-day trip, and at least 3 pairs of pants. And I’m not buying toiletries in every city, and worrying about having 3 oz or less of saline, etc, etc.
Not worth it. I’ve lost ONE BAG in three years, my man. And in 15 years of covering ball, perhaps 5 bags have been delayed. Every time, they eventually show up by the end of the day. Every time.
And the wait is usually 10 minutes at baggage claim.
Sorry, but not worth it for me to be That Guy who travels for a week with a carry on. Maybe that works for you, not for me.
We pack for a week or more. Not overnight, like most business travelers.
TnBrian
August 28th, 2009
12:39 pm
Philliephan, Chipper is about to explode, unfortunately for your Phills. He hit the cover off the ball the last few nights, so watch out. That’s how the great hitters are…just when you think they’re dead—BOOM, they go on a tear.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 28th, 2009
12:40 pm
So Ebenezer Snerdberg
You still followin Jeff Francoeur’s journey with the Indianapolis Clowns???
Pete
August 28th, 2009
12:42 pm
DAP you certainly may be right; will be interesting to see how FA market unfolds this winter at the annual meetings.
Indianapolis Clowns
August 28th, 2009
12:44 pm
Dude, don’t be clowning on us.
Philliephanphorliphe
August 28th, 2009
12:44 pm
Chipper may explode, but not with the bat. Pedro is even a far greater pitcher that will counter act Chippy’s greatness.
Shamus Thacker
August 28th, 2009
12:46 pm
Remember folks, have all your egg sac remarks ready for first inning! Last night’s first inning egg sac discussion led to loadsa runs!! With egg sacs the catalyst, paired with our dynamite pitching, WE CAN’T F’n LOSE!
Anders
August 28th, 2009
12:48 pm
OK, kinda slow on here so I’ll share an Anders lost luggage story. Me and a colleague are flying down to Alabama to meet with some clients. The plan is we’ll leave the office to fly down early in the AM and play a round of golf by mid afternoon with them. We get there and both of our luggage bags are lost. All our golf gear is in the bags. We’re still in the clothes we wore to the office.We have to go to the club, buy shirts, shorts, socks, golf shoes and gloves etc. All while the guys we’re gonna play with are waiting at the first tee. About $350 each later we’re ready to go. There’s 6 of them and us two. It’s a nice Trent Jones course so it runs us about $900 for the round for the 8 of us. We’re buying. My colleague tees off with three of them and off they go. My foursome steps up to the tee box and there’s lightning and a crack of thunder. They immediately shut down the course. It stays closed for the rest of the day. They don’t refund for the golf but will give us a credit which we promptly hand over to our guests.
$1600 later and I haven’t even hit a ball. We did have a good time at the bar. Oh yeah, my bag was waiting for me at the hotel we were staying at by the time we got there that evening.
Morale of the story? Thank god for expense acounts!
Nova Scotia Steve
August 28th, 2009
12:49 pm
Los Bravos rock Pedro tonight OVER/UNDER 5.5
Soph
August 28th, 2009
12:50 pm
JJ -
You’re talking to the master of reverse psych. So, don’t even try it. I got this in the bag.
A Real Clown
August 28th, 2009
12:50 pm
What going on here? Hoooo Hooo
Nova Scotia Steve
August 28th, 2009
12:51 pm
- Egg Sac -
aaawweee Did i kill it?
yeah it’s over….:P
Shamus Thacker
August 28th, 2009
12:55 pm
DOB: I’m wearing seven different shirts on a seven-day trip, and at least 3 pairs of pants.”"
Helluva lot harder keeping Q-sauce off shirts than pants. I sympathize DOB…