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Brandon from Warner Robins
August 28th, 2009
1:46 am
What kind of deal should Frank Wren offer LaRoche?
CaliChopper
August 28th, 2009
1:46 am
Keith – yes Infante is the utility player, fills in everywhere, he will get his playing time.
CaliChopper
August 28th, 2009
1:47 am
Brandon from Warner Robins – judging from the latest reports on Freeman, I’d say a 2 year deal
Wayne in Utah
August 28th, 2009
1:47 am
Keith
Were you the guy I kept hearing early in the game saying “Let’s go Braves!”
He was coming through the MLB Audio broadcast of WGST.
Brandon from Warner Robins
August 28th, 2009
1:48 am
I dont think LaRoche would take a two year. I would guess hes lookin for something long term, but thats just me.
Wayne in Utah
August 28th, 2009
1:48 am
Cali
I ask you a good question: If you were LaRoche, would you sign for only 2 years?
CaliChopper
August 28th, 2009
1:50 am
unless he accepts not having a no trade contract anything longer would block Freeman and I dunno if they would do that
Brandon from Warner Robins
August 28th, 2009
1:50 am
Could Freeman be moved to another position or is he strictly a 1b? I’ve never seen him play b4.
CaliChopper
August 28th, 2009
1:52 am
to possibly have 2 years of whats going on now? I might
brian
August 28th, 2009
1:54 am
he is a big, lumbering guy. Great defensively as well. I don’t think he could play LF
CaliChopper
August 28th, 2009
1:55 am
he likes it here and it would give him 2 more years with his buck commander buddy Chipper, so who knows. Hell if he could put together full seasons and not just second halfs, I’d think about signing him long term and dealing Freeman for a need
Wayne in Utah
August 28th, 2009
1:55 am
Cali and Brandon
There are no real guarantees that Freeman will be successful in the majors. We sure hope he is, but there are no guarantees. LaRoche is a fairly sure thing. If Freeman did make it and looked like the real deal, then you have a nice problem to deal with.
Even Heyward is not a lock to be a star. He might end up just being an OK player. We just don’t know until he gets here and proves himself.
Sometimes we get a bit hung up on our prospects (I am guilty of this too).
Wayne in Utah
August 28th, 2009
1:56 am
Cali
Bingo!!
Brandon from Warner Robins
August 28th, 2009
1:58 am
Interesting point Wayne. Now, on to Heyward. Are we braves fans gonna be seeing him with the big league club come September?
CaliChopper
August 28th, 2009
2:01 am
let me rephrase that, if he could put together full seasons and not just second halfs, I would sign him long term and deal Freeman for needs, not just think about it
CaliChopper
August 28th, 2009
2:02 am
Brandon – no, he’s banged up right now, think they are going to set him on the shelf till AZ fall league
CaliChopper
August 28th, 2009
2:03 am
Both he and Freeman were in Atlanta the other day to see team Dr’s
CaliChopper
August 28th, 2009
2:04 am
what do you think Wayne?
Brandon from Warner Robins
August 28th, 2009
2:05 am
Dang. Need them both to stay healthy.
I have no clue why im still up.
CaliChopper
August 28th, 2009
2:08 am
But Wren has said all along he didn’t want to bring Heyward up yet
Brandon from Warner Robins
August 28th, 2009
2:10 am
Im going to trust Frank Wren. He made the right decision with Smoltz, Galvine, and Hanson, brought in McLouth. Whatever he does, im fully behind him. a couple tweaks and additions and the Braves are going to be contenders for years to come.
CaliChopper
August 28th, 2009
2:12 am
He seems to have done more right than not and hasn’t been suckered in a trade yet
Wayne in Utah
August 28th, 2009
2:13 am
Guys, I would also try to sign LaRoche if possible. Besides, at his worst in the first half, he is as good as Kotchman was.
As for Heyward, I think if he were coming up this year, he would have been called up when McLouth went down. Just my opinion, but stranger things have happened.
(subliminal message: I must watch Glenn Beck tomorrow……)
Brandon from Warner Robins
August 28th, 2009
2:14 am
He took a lot heat on this blog from a lot people criticizing a lot his moves.
What part of California you live in?
CaliChopper
August 28th, 2009
2:16 am
So Cal, bout 25-30 miles outside of LA
CaliChopper
August 28th, 2009
2:17 am
Wayne – since we still had control of Kotch for a few more years, I’d have to agree or that trade might be a waste
Brandon from Warner Robins
August 28th, 2009
2:18 am
I was readin bout the fires out there. terrible.
CaliChopper
August 28th, 2009
2:21 am
every year a couple times a year. Glad we are between reg season and winterball here. fires have air quality so screwed up right now no youth sports allowed in our city
CaliChopper
August 28th, 2009
2:23 am
Glad my boy stuck with baseball, if he did football right now it would suck, was 105 here with air you can’t breath
Brandon from Warner Robins
August 28th, 2009
2:31 am
cant imagine that. im outta sports for a couple weeks. banged up knee
CaliChopper
August 28th, 2009
2:41 am
ouch. knee isn’t something to mess with.
CaliChopper
August 28th, 2009
2:44 am
Brandon – you have a good night, I’m outa here till tomorrow
Ronald Millsaps
August 28th, 2009
2:52 am
No way do you send Omar Infante down; his versatility is way too valuable.
This team really is very good, just needs to play like it can.
The rosters are about to expand to 40; I’d like to see Gregor Blanco in left for late-inning defense.
Matt Diaz at leadoff intrigues me. He really has a God-given talent to hit and has worked hard to develop it. He also runs full-throttle and is a good base-runner. Here’s a guy who went the old-school route and remembered that having a strong, successful season entails having a strong offseason, and he did lose some weight in the offseason. He hits a lot of doubles, which is valuable because doing so puts him in scoring position already, although he’s not a bad base-stealer as it is.
Maybe we should go… Matt Diaz–Martin Prado–Nate McLouth–Chipper Jones–Brian McCann–Yunel Escobar–Adam LaRoche–Garret Anderson.
I like our chances heading into Philadelphia. Tonight was clearly one of the better wins of the year.
nolie
August 28th, 2009
2:57 am
but Faux is very right winged, and I hate that… (JJ)
why call it faux? It means fake of course, but is pronounced like foe not fox. I’m missing something I guess
nolie
August 28th, 2009
3:01 am
Re-Sign LaRoche. He’s a ballplayer. (Brandon)
well after the allstar game anyway. he would likely drive this board crazy in the first half of the year.
nolie
August 28th, 2009
3:05 am
Are we braves fans gonna be seeing him with the big league club come September? (Brandon)
Not likely. Wren has said several times that they are not planning to, that he is going to the AFL
Ronald Millsaps
August 28th, 2009
3:06 am
I like Frank Wren and most of his moves, but not re-signing John Smoltz was a mistake.
nolie
August 28th, 2009
3:07 am
Besides, at his worst in the first half, he is as good as Kotchman was. (Wayne)
nah, not really Wayne. So far in his career he has pretty much sucked early. More power that CK maybe but worse in every other way.
Ronald Millsaps
August 28th, 2009
3:14 am
Perhaps Wren can sign Smoltz after the season and use him out of the bullpen again next season. That move would be nice.
Wren owes it to his constituents to pursue such a move.
Another lineup idea: Diaz-Prado-Chipper-LaRoche-McCann-McLouth-Escobar-Anderson. If you’ll notice, this lineup actually has two mini-lineups built into it: Diaz-Prado is a one-two punch, and McLouth-Escobar is another.
Ronald Millsaps
August 28th, 2009
3:24 am
“nolie”–”nah” to your entire post.
LaRoche did match, if not exceed, Kotchman in the first half. The power differential compensated for the lack of average. Besides, he was a good first-half player in Atlanta, lest you forget.
Ronald Millsaps
August 28th, 2009
3:28 am
“nolie” generally is lewd with a sniveling tone and unsubstantiated comments.
nolie
August 28th, 2009
3:34 am
esides, he was a good first-half player in Atlanta, lest you forget. (Ronald)
I think it is you who has forgotten bud. Better go check those splits . In 2005 he was some better in the first half, not so in other years nor in any year since he lefty.. And the power differential does not make up for the low BA and OBP.and that’s not even counting the difference in the defense Casey being better. Now don’t forget to check, cause you sure forgot his performance.
nolie
August 28th, 2009
3:36 am
nolie” generally is lewd with a sniveling tone and unsubstantiated comments. (Ronald)
dude do you have any idea in the world what lewd means? and snivelling.? and unsubstantiated. You have NEVER seen me make an unsubstantiated comment about anything factual. Whoever just posted this just made a fool of themselves.
Ronald Millsaps
August 28th, 2009
3:42 am
“nolie”–You overlook the fact that LaRoche platooned a lot when here and that he played his best ball when given the chance to play every day in 2006. You can’t judge everything by flat statistics but instead have to consider all factors.
Ronald Millsaps
August 28th, 2009
3:44 am
“nolie”–Re: your 3:36 a.m. post–Not really.
Go, Braves! Go, Falcons!
nolie
August 28th, 2009
3:45 am
(RONNIE)
hey dude did you remember to check those splits? Don’t want you to think I made an unsubstantiated statement about his first half/second half performances. Just want to remind you since you seen prone to forgetting things, not to mention using words that you don’t know the meaning of. How ’bout a response on those splits sweetie?
nolie
August 28th, 2009
3:55 am
Re: your 3:36 a.m. post–Not really. (Ronnie)
yeah dude, really. Show me the splits you claimed sweetie. ain’t there are they?. lewd involves lust or lechery. Wanna show me one of those? Snivelling? If there is anything my posts aren’t it’s that. Seems like you’re the one who likes to make unsubstantiated statements lil’ bubba. That’s ok, we all already knew that anyway.
nolie
August 28th, 2009
4:03 am
dayum now the board is acting up, and just when I got me a foolish little mousie I can have fun playing with.
Oh, was that a sniveling remark? Dang it !
night my lil’ sweetie Ronnie . hope you don’t have too much of a hangover.
Wayne in Utah
August 28th, 2009
4:05 am
Ronald/Shamus/nolie
Sorry if I have offended any of you, my friends today with some of my political slant.
Normally, I would not do such, but I am kinda pushing the envelope. Seeing exactly what will be allowed. The allowance of the Dunce has ticked me off, and gotten me so disenheartened by blog management, that I don’t think they have the kahuna’s to block anybody, really.
Starting next week, I will have very minimal time for the blog anyway. My guess is I will be able to say just about anything I want between now and then.
If you have the time, watch or Tivo Glenn Beck tomorrow. You gotta get past the persona, and then ask yourself if Fox would allow him to report what he does, without doing some due diligence.
Go Braves!
Shamus Thacker
August 28th, 2009
4:09 am
“”What kind of deal should Frank Wren offer LaRoche?”"
The kind of deal with reverse incentives for the Braves if he sucks as usual the first half. I know that type deal doesn’t exist, but it wouldn’t be a bad idea for players who sleepwalk till the All-Star break. Can’t stand Tex for that very reason. I know his numbers are terrific by season’s end, but on a less powerful team his lack of early production can help dig an insurmountable hole. He helped knock us out of realistic contention last year with his early-season play, or lack thereof..
Joe D. loves Marilyn
August 28th, 2009
4:09 am
Possible…Smoltz vs. Braves (Hanson???)…Sunday September 13??? ( @ St. Louis )…same day FALCONS playing the Dolphins in the Georgia Dome…first home / regular season game of 2009…which will be more important???
But hey…Still in it…only 4 back in the WC…with 35 games left…
Just need to pick up one game a week…and hopefully and we win the WC!!!
Think that the magic number for WC is 90 or 91 wins…not the 88 – 89 that most feel is the number…
(maybe Mary Jo is giving Teddy a ride now…doubt it…he has lots of explain’ to do…so purgatory it is for this druken / womanizer / manslaughter(er)…hell will be a long time resident for another…male Kennedy!!!)
Selah…
Shamus Thacker
August 28th, 2009
4:16 am
Shoot Wayne, you didn’t offend me. I’m as conservative as they come. My TV stays on Fox News unless Braves are playing. Like you, as a young guy I was a bleeding-heart liberal, but life experience and the direction of our country changed my heading for good… Hang tough dude, don’t be swayed by cardiac bleeders of the liberal cause…
Shamus Thacker
August 28th, 2009
4:58 am
Y’all were talking bout Wren earlier. The guy has done a remarkable job with the pitching staff. I wouldn’t swap him for any other GM out there. Much of the rest of our team is a mess, but it’s not his fault. JS left him with not much more than egg sacs to work with. I’m just beginning to realize how below-par our outfield has become. I’m not even all that crazy about McLouth, and hell, the others can’t play defense. Diaz has improved some defensively, but he’s still a liability out there. I love the way he hits, but he’s not an everyday Major League outfielder. Loaf in the outfield is, well, Loaf.. I’m certain I’ll be told how wrong I am, but ain’t that what a blog is for, open discussion and debate? As far as the infield goes, Chipper is in obvious decline and Prado is a utility guy who’s played over his head for a good chunk of the season. I don’t believe you can realistically pencil him in as an everyday season-long starter. He’d be back in a utility role by July. LaRoche has been great for us the second half, but we can’t expect he’ll be anything but a source of frustration till July of next year. He’s a notoriously slow starter, just like Tex. The thing is, we don’t have the supporting cast that Tex has in NY. We need wins from day-one, not a couple months of floundering before turning it on. We just can’t afford to begin another season in that mode…
I’m rambling
Take care all…
nolie
August 28th, 2009
5:07 am
(WAYNE)
no problemo. I was a flaming liberal as a youth too, but unlike you and Shamus I have not turned to the right. I am more of a moderate independent now. Liberal on some things and somewhat conservative on others. To paraphrase Churchill
a young man who isn’t a liberal has no heart, an old man who isn’t conservative has no brain.
Most of us drift that way to one degree or another as we age. Illegitimi non carborundum
nolie
August 28th, 2009
5:16 am
Prado is a utility guy who’s played over his head for a good chunk of the season. I don’t believe you can realistically pencil him in as an everyday season-long starter (Shamus)
ok I’m gonna tell you how wrong you are about this part.
He has perhaps played a bit above his head so far, , but there is no reason in the world to think he can’t hit .775 OPS, which is not all that bad as a second baseman. and he was a pretty good defender in the minors and has gotten back closer to that as he has played more.
He’s not a star, but I do not see anybody who is gonna push him out of the starting job, nor do I see any reason that he can’t do it adequately. Kelly has more potential, but he just has not developed it for longer than a month or so at a time.
We’ll see.
Random
August 28th, 2009
5:44 am
RHR (August 27th, 2009 12:20 pm): “Tell me how you search the blog for specific posts from people? I want to find something but I don’t want to read thru all these pages to find it.”
I use Google Advanced Search (G.A.S), where you can specify the site or domain within which to search for a word, name or phrase. (In the following examples, I’m omitting th first 7 characters of the IP addresses, so that the blog doesn’t think I’m including multiple links and block me.)
The IP address for this particular page of comments is . . . blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2009/08/27/is-this-it/comment-page-7/#comments. You should be able to see it in the address pane at the top of the page. You can copy and paste it from there to another browser page or tab, or simply edit it where it is.
Trim the tail off this page’s IP address, and you will get the domain for ALL comment pages for this particular blog posting of CR’s: . . . blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2009/08/27/is-this-it/. Specify this IP address in G.A.S., and it will search all comments pages for this blog posting.
(Here is the Google results page for a search of all occurrences of “RHR” in this blog’s comment pages.)
You can further trim (and tailor) the IP address to have G.A.S. search all blog postings for a particular month (say, Jun 09 — . . . blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2009/06/) or year (. . . blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2009/).
(You may search similarly in previous years, and early this year, but the IP address template is different for back then. Remember when the blog changed drastically and painfully during ST this year?)
Hope this helps — lemme know if it don’t.
PS: Whaddaya mean, “Douchey”? Yet another demeaning nickname?
Random
August 28th, 2009
5:46 am
RHR –Except that we’re now on page 18. This was my 3rd attempt to post this comment: . . . blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2009/08/27/is-this-it/comment-page-18/#comment-283655
bravesfanforever
August 28th, 2009
6:45 am
For those of you who think Chipper needs time off…
He doesn’t need any time off. He started sliding during that historic season last year about half way through.Not sure if it was because Tex left or a combination of that and just not being able to hit .400 for a full season–especially for brittle Chipper.
I think he is simply feeling his age and needs to start making adjustments. After all, he is hitting fine right handed. His BA is down on that side but not the power. Since this is his natural side it only makes sense he is simply losing strength and bat speed when batting from the weaker side–the left. Traditionally he has hit better from this side, but that’s only because his natural gifts worked better lefthanded but that never meant he was actually physically STRONGER from the left side.
Who knows it could be his shoulder as well, but I’m inclined to think that this is a result of getting “old”. I don’t think he is done however. I think he simply needs to make adjustments. Go to a lighter bat. Change his stance. Build greater upper body strength. I mean, it doesn’t look like his physical appearance is much different than it was 5 years ago.
He just can’t go on natural gifts any more and he needs to start beefing himself up and making changes. There is no doubt in my mind about this.
If you are going to blame anyone for this season, Chipper should get a pretty large share of the disappointment. I’m not that disappointed since I never expected the team to make the playoffs, but I’ve maintained that this team depends on his performance more than anyone else.
He isn’t horrible by any means, don’t get me wrong, but I’ve said that he needs to hit at least .320 – .340 and hit 20+ homers. Maybe it was unrealistic to expect this, but isn’t that the point? He needed to hit very well for the team to compete. He only has 55 RBIs. That’s not nearly enough and reflects the season he and the Braves have had.
But if the team is going to compete next year, the team needs another big bat in the middle. This team CANNOT depend on him any more. He can contribute but if you want to win, someone else has to take the lead in a big way.
Tell It Like It Is
August 28th, 2009
7:22 am
This is from Jeff Shultz’s blog. Numbers do not lie. It IS what It IS.
First, here’s how it looks in the N.L. East:
Team W L Pct. GB
Philadelphia 73 52 .584 –
Atlanta 67 60 .528 7
Florida 67 60 .528 7
And here’s how it looks in the N.L. wild card picture
Team W L Pct. GB
Colorado 72 56 .563 –
San Francisco 69 58 .543 2.5
Atlanta 67 60 .528 4.5
Florida 67 60 .528 4.5
And here are all the bottom lines:
♦ EAST: If the Phillies continue to play at a .584 pace, they’ll go 22-15 in their last 37 games and finish 95-67. The Braves would have to go 28-7 (.800) just to tie.
♦ EAST: If the Phillies play at just above a .500 clip, 19-18, the rest of the way, they’ll finish 92-70. The Braves would have to go 25-10 (.714) to catch them.
(For the record, Philadelphia was 39-37 on July 2. It’s 34-15 since. The Phillies have been playing at a .694 clip for nearly two months.)
♦ WILD CARD: If the Rockies continue to play at a .563 pace, they’ll go 19-15 in their final 34 games and finish 91-71. The Braves would have to go 24-11(.686) to tie them.
♦ WILD CARD: If the Rockies play at a .500 clip, 17-17, the rest of the way, they’ll finish 89-73. The Braves would have to go 22-13 (.629) to catch them.
(For the record, Colorado started the season 18-28 but is 54-28 since firing manager Clint Hurdle May 28 and replacing him with Jim Tracy. The Rockies have been playing at a .659 clip for three months.)
♦ BRAVES RECAP: They were 39-43 on July 6. They are 28-17 since. That’s a .622 clip, which is less than .800, .714, .686 or .629.
OK, I’m done. Hopefully I didn’t ruin your breakfast.
What do the numbers tell you?
RHR
August 28th, 2009
7:30 am
Thanks Random!
Chopdawg
August 28th, 2009
7:40 am
Tell it like it is: thanx for that breakdown, that’s great work; but all the numbers tell us is that it’s generally gonna be tuff for the Braves to make the playoffs. The fact that Team A’s played at a so-and-so clip for such-and-such a time is no guarantee of how they’ll play the rest of the season. The Rockies, for instance, might play .563 baseball or they might play .500 baseball or they might play .391 baseball, like they did to start the season. Nobody knows. You might think you can make educated guesses, but too many wierd things happen in baseball, like the Rockies’ 20-8 record in September a couple of seasons ago.
SRF
August 28th, 2009
7:45 am
So what the numbers tell me – is that they have a sort of “negative” magic number.
As soon as the Braves lose 12 more games – then they are going to be eliminated.
So – with 3 against Philly and 4 against FLA – they should be down to 6 to go by this time next week.
TommyP
August 28th, 2009
7:49 am
The numbers don’t look good at all, Tell It Like It Is. But that’s why they play the games on the field. Gotta hope for a great month of baseball from us and the others to slow down some.
Shamus: You’d take Wren over ANY GM in baseball? Wow. I’m not knocking Wren but he’s certainly not the best GM in baseball.
Hopefully McLouth’s return will spark this club. We haven’t seen the best from Nate by a long shot.
Haven’t looked but I wonder who claimed Latroy Hawkins? Could it have been the Braves?
Like LSU said yesterday, thank you Braves for keeping me interested until the college football season arrives. Time for weekly Christmases on Saturdays now.
And one last thing….St.Louis did an incredible job by locking up their closer, Ryan Franklin, for probably the best bargain in sports. He must love it there (like every other player that’s ever played by the Arch).
Frankie Wren
August 28th, 2009
7:51 am
just noting,
Kotchman 8 Hrs in 450 AB’s with Braves.
LaRoche 8 Hrs in 82 AB’s
David O'Brien
August 28th, 2009
8:06 am
Isn’t it something how a team plays more than 100 games, and just when things are looking pretty hopeless for the Bravos, one day of them winning and everyone in front of them losing seems to significantly improve the outlook…
Got an 8:40 a.m. to Philly and it’s supposed to leave on time, despite some nasty weather out here. Thankfully I had Hank III’s Damn Right, Rebel Proud on the CD to get me through the drive through rain and people riding the brake pedal on I-85 coming to the airport.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKd2UPiSsWc
Flying on Friday morning is so much easier than other weekdays. So many business travelers eliminated from the equation on Friday morning, makes the lines almost non-existent….
Glad I missed the rain delay last night, since it looks like we could be in for some delays in rainy Philly throughout this three-game series. I’ve said it before, we sit through more rain delays in Philly that anywhere, including Florida (although Atlanta has quickly moved up that list in the last couple of years)….
Frankie Wren: Great stat at 7:51 a.m. on Kotch/Roche, the power comparison (or lack thereof, in Kotchman’s case). I’m sure the real Frank Wren is pleased with that one.
I know Wren and the Braves said precisely that when they got LaRoche — that he’s been a second-half player for enough years now that they believed they could count on him to be one again — but it’s pretty stunning how productive he’s been.
Later
jason
August 28th, 2009
8:29 am
Just read where Huddy will be making his first start Mon. That is good sight to see. Have Medlen ready, I only want to see Huddy go 5 and slowly stretch it out. I raed where they are considering a 6 man. That is also good. Huddy coming back from surgery. KK and Lowe seemed to be hitting a wall. An extra days rest for the rotation might not be such a bad thing. I would try to keep Huddy and KK from pitching back to back. That would allow for Medlen to work the middle innings and maintain some rest time. It also would not burn out the BP. I see Huddy, and KK goimg no more than 5-6 ip the rest of the year. Add that to what we are getting from Lowe now, and managing the BP will be of the upmost importance.
Will
August 28th, 2009
8:38 am
Don’t worry Jason Sept callups are about to happen and that will hopefully allow for Bobby to use other guys in blowout games. I really wouldn’t be surprised if Tim goes out and throws a gem on Monday. Will definitely be interesting how they manage the pitching staff if we stay in this race. If we start to fade, I think you have to shut down JJ and Hanson so as to not put too much strain on them.
Jeff R
August 28th, 2009
8:39 am
LaRoche has been superior. Wren made the right move reaquiring him. At the time, I thought the deal was something of a wash. Glad that I was wrong.
Wren needs to make a run at retaining LaRoche’s services. Two years and an option?
JoeBrave
August 28th, 2009
8:41 am
Does the AJC get payoffs for preaching playoff hopes to the masses?
This team isn’t worthy of eben sniffing a playoff spot.
Baba O'Riley
August 28th, 2009
8:42 am
Where are the folks who asked what the hell Wren was doing when he traded Kotchman for “that bum” Laroche?
Baba O'Riley
August 28th, 2009
8:43 am
JeffR just manned up. It’s rare when people admit they’re wrong on a blog.
Soph
August 28th, 2009
8:43 am
Have a safe flight DOB. It’s nasty out there.
TommyP
August 28th, 2009
8:48 am
Kotchman was arguably the worst hitting 1B in baseball. Why was anyone unhappy with that deal?
I found it funny for those that were critical because of the contracts. “We would have had Kotchman for another year!,” they argued.
Yeah…another year with a punch-and-judy hitter at 1B.
What was Heyward’s injury down on the farm? I missed it.
Mid Town Joe
August 28th, 2009
8:51 am
Kicked Padre butt last night!!!!
flange1
August 28th, 2009
9:05 am
Morning All,
Nice to win a game! Now we get real baseball with the Phillies and the Marlins back to back. Hope to see last night’s Braves show up for a couple of weeks!
Wayne,
I certainly understand you being upset with the AJC for their lack of follow through with a certain blogger (you know the one that had another attack of foot in mouth disease last night). I think most of the the long term vets are a bit perplexed by the banned/ not banned thing too.
And I understand that you are trying to prove a point by playing with this blogger and pushing the envelope on the political/religious issue thing.
While I understand your decision, I think you need to rethink it.
By breaking the rules you are lowering your self to his level.
You have been on this blog for years and been a significant poster. You are one of the “elder statesmen” of the blog, don’t drag yourself down to the level of the tasteless, classless blogger who wallows in his ignorance.
You are too a good of a person for that……
Vinings JIm
August 28th, 2009
9:05 am
TommyP – re:Heyward:
http://www.talkingchop.com/2009/8/27/1004276/braves-may-shut-jason-heyward-down?ref=yahoo
AndyC
August 28th, 2009
9:06 am
You guys and gals realize that if the Braves had taken care of the lowly Padres in the first two games of the series we would be sitting all alone in second place in the wildcard standings just 2.5 games out? Oh well, last night was crucial and with everyone else losing we hold onto our playoff hopes by a thread.
"You all are Cox apologists"
August 28th, 2009
9:07 am
IT JUST SICKENS ME,
To know that we lost 2 of 3 to ONE of the worst teams in baseball. Had we taken care of business like we were supposed to, we would 2.5 games out, not 4.5. SEE, THAT’S IT, the Braves are a talented team and they are good enough to stay in the race. HERE’S THE THING, winning in any sport TAKES MORE THAN JUST TALENT. There are certain intangibles that can’t be measured with statistics such as heart, aggressiveness, ferociousness, etc… These are the things the BRAVES are serious lacking in. I’m sorry but until the BRAVES cleanse themselves of Bobby Cox, we can continue to expect failures and UNDERACHIEVING TEAMS. I love the Braves more than anyone so don’t tell me I’m not a fan just because I don’t support losing. FIRE COX TODAY!
richbrave
August 28th, 2009
9:09 am
We keep limping along. Now four out of the WC. Could have been two out with 30+ to play, but no, its the lowly PADRES. We can relax a bit. Our paternalistic manager will win it for us – somehow. WAKE UP CALL. No more patsys on the schedule. Time to grind it out. How badly do you want to play in October? It’s all on you. Right there for the taking. I would say good luck, but teams that play with a sense of urgency such as COLORADO make their own luck. So let’s see what you got LOS BRAVOS. Time to rise and shine.
corolla
August 28th, 2009
9:14 am
wazzup fellas
Ebenezer Snerdberg
August 28th, 2009
9:14 am
Now,if somebody will just ’splain to Blobby Crox to put LaRo at cleanup & BMac in the 5 hole. No that would seem to make sense. Crox could never do that. ‘Couse he could give LaRo & day off & play his love child Norton at 1st!
Ebenezer Snerdberg
August 28th, 2009
9:16 am
Luck is for rabbits!
richbrave
August 28th, 2009
9:21 am
Ebenezer:
My sentiments exactly.
DAP
August 28th, 2009
9:24 am
nolie in his career, laroche has a .773OPS in the first half. kotchman for the braves this year had a .764OPS, and has a .749OPS for his entire career. so, yeah, learoche in the first half is still better than casey kotchman.
DAP
August 28th, 2009
9:26 am
wayne, ill probably be watching beck today, but please keep in mind that he isnt just a reporter. more of a commentator, and there is a big difference.
also remember no news…and i mean NONE of it, is unbiased.
DAP
August 28th, 2009
9:30 am
as far as a contract for laroche, id offer at least 2 years, maybe 3. 3rd year could be an option…and i would hope we could get adam for $8mil per.
if im wren and the braves, im not worried about freeman and when he will be ready. let that take care of itself. if freeman cant come up until he 23, it wont kill him.
i was thinking last night how different this braves team would be if we had never traded laroche in the first place…we probably never would have traded for tex.
dogsbrekky (now it's a real bollocks mess)
August 28th, 2009
9:34 am
Kelly J and potential – I look for potential in 22 yr old rookies not 4-5 year mlb guys who have not done sheet for 2 straight years and who suck so terribly on defense (when it counts). I will take Prado (who still looks a bit ill to me) over KJ any and every day. Guy is a trier and a thinker
TommyP
August 28th, 2009
9:34 am
DAP: I agree on LaRoche but 3rd year is a TEAM option, not player option.
We need to think about acquiring a Chipper replacement and a huge OF bat.
dogsbrekky (now it's a real bollocks mess)
August 28th, 2009
9:37 am
flange – if everyone clicks on the report comment part of what offends and then asks said blogger to be perma-banned then you may get some action from ajc.com or send an email to DOB with cut/paste comments that offend.
bravesgrl4life
August 28th, 2009
9:42 am
Morning, all. Hope the Braves can roll into and out of Filthy with 2-3 wins. Then on to little NY (aka Miami) for what I hope will be a fish fry.
Lew
August 28th, 2009
9:43 am
nolie-re:your 5:07 post. Sandpaper is not legitimate?
ann lewis
August 28th, 2009
9:45 am
when trading started all knew it was over. too old too stubborn, think they can wlk on water.
it is over.
Lew
August 28th, 2009
9:46 am
bravesfanforever-Or it could just be that he was in a slump and is coming out of it.
richbrave
August 28th, 2009
9:49 am
TommyP:
I think BRAVES management agrees on the huge bat. CHIPPER, I’m not so sure. But he’s locked up for three more years so a trade is possible, I’m guessing with JONES’ approval. He might want to go to the AL as a DH to finish out his career. Who knows.
Ebenezer Snerdberg
August 28th, 2009
9:50 am
bravesgrl4life:
Atlanta is Little New Jerk. Miami is Little Habanna!
jeffrey d
August 28th, 2009
9:54 am
Havana?
Ebenezer Snerdberg
August 28th, 2009
9:55 am
Churchill said,
“If you’re not Liberal when you’re 20,you got no bark. If you’re not Conservative when you’re 40,you got no brains!” Me,slightly to the left of Atilla The Hun!
Ebenezer Snerdberg
August 28th, 2009
9:58 am
jeffrey d:
Don’t smoke cigars do you? Yeah typo,Habana!
Ebenezer Snerdberg
August 28th, 2009
10:00 am
Later,I gotta take a shave!
dogsbrekky - here filly filly filly, take this
August 28th, 2009
10:01 am
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