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Brandon from Warner Robins
August 27th, 2009
10:54 pm
Hate to lose a game like that.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 27th, 2009
10:54 pm
Anyone watch KC s. SEA? Nice game, good starting effort by Davies even though its the 3rd inning. I really like the Royals, probably my second or third favorite team in baseball….
Roman Gal
August 27th, 2009
10:55 pm
I’ll have you know that this semester I’m taking a persuasion class. I’m just giving you all a heads up because by January I’ll have you all convinced Jordan Schafer has normal sized ears…
So, watch out!
Random
August 27th, 2009
10:55 pm
Steve from OH (August 27th, 2009 10:49 pm): “I’ll let him respond to the rest.”
Or not.
Doc Holiday
August 27th, 2009
10:55 pm
bravefaninok,
We are not the phillies and the phillies are not the muts.
I think have made their statement of what kind of team they are………..Sure nothing is impossible, but I think it would take at least some injuries to 2 or 3 of their key players for that to happen, say, Lee, Utley and Werth……….
Paul Lentz
August 27th, 2009
10:56 pm
AndyC……..Nerves? I am more concerned with his career 5.58 ERA in 244 career innings pitched. I could care less about what kind of story him coming back from diabetes is.
Carlyle gives up 1 homer for every 6 innings pitched. Tonight’s homer was classic Carlyle. Dude is nothing more than a mop up man…….which is exactly what he did tonight…..mop up a 9 run lead.
Brandon from Warner Robins
August 27th, 2009
10:56 pm
Warner Robins will be back. You can bank on it!
Wayne in Utah
August 27th, 2009
10:57 pm
Jurrjens
I don’t have the inclination or the drive that Random does to go back and find your exact comments, but you went a little ape shyt when Bobby pulled JV. You sounded like a little kid who dropped his ice cream cone, and pitched a fit about it.
Buddy needed work. If JV wasn’t going to go 9, then why go 8? No sense at all. He gets paid the exact same for winning, whether it’s 7-8-9 innings. Besides, at this point in the season, better to keep him fresh, especially when you had a couple of guys in the pen who have NOT been overworked.
This was the perfect game to get Buddy back into. If you can’t see that, you aren’t half as smart as I thought you were.
Just sayin’
CaliChopper
August 27th, 2009
10:57 pm
Roman Gal – but can you convince Lentz we blog with urgencey?
The A Bomb
August 27th, 2009
10:58 pm
For those of you who know ANYTHING about diabetes it’s as bad as any disease around.
People don’t live long lives — they go blind, have heart transplants, and lose limbs. Jackie Robinson died at 53. They have to check their blood sugar constantly. Until it effects you or your family you have no idea how bad it is.
Buddy Carlyle — you keep doing it.
Lentz — consider the 5 points you lost not worth a crap. Maybe spend some time studying about how bad diabetes is. Along with the rest of you who are taking pot shots at Buddy. I hope he pitches for the next 10-15 years to beat this thing.
Doc Holiday
August 27th, 2009
10:58 pm
I know you already know this, but for the record…………..If we had swept the Padres (as we should), we would be 2.5 back in the WCR………. man, I need to kill someone to get this out of my system.
Soph
August 27th, 2009
11:00 pm
Read why ESPN sucks (the first one), its a fan favorite…. And thank you
You’re welcome and I read both parts – agree wholeheartedly with you on that one.
Brandon from Warner Robins
August 27th, 2009
11:00 pm
The A Bomb excellent post. Agree 100%.
SoonerBrave
August 27th, 2009
11:01 pm
Well said A Bomb
Wayne in Utah
August 27th, 2009
11:01 pm
So Dunce, if your going to grade Carlyle on his career numbers, then no way in hell does Conrad EVER get called up, as his career numbers suck compared to Norton.
Dude, you twist the facts around to fit your story. You truly don’t know shyt about baseball, do you? Except how to go to the papers and pick out a good lineup for your fantasy team.
That’s all your doing, criticizing whatever screws up your silly azzed fantasy baseball.
Here’s hoping all your opponents get a Royal Frickin Flush on EVERY had they are dealt!
HA HA HA!
Doc Holiday
August 27th, 2009
11:02 pm
So if we are skipping KK on the rotation, that means he can come from the pen from sunday on, that makes our pen so solid, not to mention buddys presence, IMO is an upgrade. KK and Medlen can eat up so many innings I dont think Cox should hesitate ever again (this season) to take any starter early in the game if its clearly not his night (like Lowes and Javys recent outings)
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 27th, 2009
11:03 pm
Wayne,
I understand this was the perfect game for Buddy to get back into….
But, Vasquez should have finished the game, it is not like he threw 120 pitches when he left, he threw 88. A shutout is a nice thing for him to have, especially because he should be a 17 – 19 game winner right now.
I assume you watch the Daily Show/CNN/Fox/MSNBC, you know, “Just Sayin’?”
AndyC
August 27th, 2009
11:03 pm
Paul Dentz
Last year Carlyle had a 3.59 ERA 1.24 WHIP and a .228 BAA. You not caring about him coming back from diabetes is more proof that you suck.
Roman Gal
August 27th, 2009
11:03 pm
but can you convince Lentz we blog with urgencey?
I prefer not to converse with him.
CaliChopper
August 27th, 2009
11:04 pm
Doc Holiday – saw in a CR post, Bobby says KK won’t throw from the pen
Wayne in Utah
August 27th, 2009
11:04 pm
Thanks A-Bomb! Well said! Dunce is a donk. He has absolutely no empathy for anybody, a heartless SOB. He rips the military like they are nothing. Then is flippant about Buddy’s situation. He truly is a dipshyt in the worst possible way!
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 27th, 2009
11:04 pm
A bomb is right, my Grandma might pass because of it. My aunt and other grandma has it too.
Wayne in Utah
August 27th, 2009
11:05 pm
RG
Tiny little ears, that kid Schafer!
Doc Holiday
August 27th, 2009
11:06 pm
CaliChopper,
thanks for the info, appreciate it. Its a shame. Then whats the plan? that makes our pen 1 guy thinner.
Steve from OH
August 27th, 2009
11:06 pm
I prefer not to converse with him.
Mmmhmmm…
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 27th, 2009
11:06 pm
You’re welcome and I read both parts – agree wholeheartedly with you on that one.
Its amazing how stupid they are…
Shamus Thacker
August 27th, 2009
11:06 pm
Schafer doesn’t have big ears, just a tiny head…
CaliChopper
August 27th, 2009
11:06 pm
Wayne in Utah – yahtze… bingo… bullseye… awww you’re just plain right again
SoonerBrave
August 27th, 2009
11:07 pm
Exactly Wayne! Does anyone know why he’s still allowed on here after DOB banned him?
Wayne in Utah
August 27th, 2009
11:08 pm
Jurrjens
How can you say on the one hand it was the perfect game for Buddy to get into, then continue to cry about JV not getting a shot at a shutout.
Shutouts were important in the 70’s. Not today. You can’t have it both ways.
CaliChopper
August 27th, 2009
11:08 pm
Nah, they just have Medlens head with Schafers ears
Ebenezer Snerdberg
August 27th, 2009
11:08 pm
Okay,
We won and ya’ll want to cut each other! Anyway to answer a question back a ways. Vaz was taken out because Blobby has Drain Bamage! I ‘ve never been a Crox fan. He let Javy,arguably the best bunter in the league swing insead of sac bunt. No killer instinct. And,you know how he is about putting guys right back in it. Then again,I remember Claude King too. I agree with Mitch on one point. Diabetes should never enter in anymore. And he’s never been that great,but he beats Hell outta A-COST-us! Lawry Wain may be gettin’ his strole back. Mitch,calm down. You remind me of me—-40 years ago. You have all the makings of an angry young man. Take a chill pill,just don’t lose the spark.
EOR(End Of Rant)
CaliChopper
August 27th, 2009
11:09 pm
Doc Holiday – my guess… some sort of modified 6 man rotation
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 27th, 2009
11:10 pm
Wayne,
Here is my final statement: Although is was the “perfect” time for Buddy to come in, Javy was on a roll and should have finished the game…
Doc Holiday
August 27th, 2009
11:10 pm
CaliChopper,
Sounds good………like skipping 1 guy here and there?
Paul Lentz
August 27th, 2009
11:10 pm
The A Bomb……….I’m sure that Buddy Carlyle is a nice guy. However, as I said before, this is not the “Make a Wish Foundation”. This is professional sports. I want to see the Braves put the guys out there who will give us our best chance to win.
5.58 career ERA with 40 homers given up in 244 career innings is not something that makes me feel good. I want to see results, not give a “welfare” spot on the team to some guy just because the fans “sympathize” with him.
Shamus Thacker
August 27th, 2009
11:10 pm
Wayne in Utah: I don’t have the inclination or the drive that Random does to go back and find your exact comments”"
It’s called obsessive compulsion Wayne… lol
Roman Gal
August 27th, 2009
11:11 pm
Tiny little ears, that kid Schafer! Wayne
I wouldn’t go that far…
CaliChopper
August 27th, 2009
11:11 pm
Doc Holiday – thats what I’m thinking, could be wrong but it makes sense
Wayne in Utah
August 27th, 2009
11:12 pm
SoonerBrave
To be perfectly honest, I think he is allowed to stay because the folks that run the blog don’t want to be bothered with trying to keep him off. Also, maybe they like his hits. I have lost a lot of respect for DOB because of it.
I really don’t give a damn either if they kick me off. Since he is allowed to stay, if I am in a bad mood, I will say whatever the heck I want, politics, religion, whatever; because I don’t think anybody at the AJC has the guts to kick people off.
Steve from OH
August 27th, 2009
11:13 pm
I wouldn’t go that far…
Aha! I knew it!That was awfully nice of you!Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 27th, 2009
11:13 pm
Mark Bowman said Kenshin was going to be used as a reliever and not a starter, so no 6 man rotation, which, Imo, is good
Doc Holiday
August 27th, 2009
11:14 pm
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com},
Is he coming from the pen or not?
Shamus Thacker
August 27th, 2009
11:14 pm
That’s a low blow to KK.
Paul Lentz
August 27th, 2009
11:14 pm
AndyC……….Again, someone’s sob story doesnt do it for me. I want to see the Braves win. If Buddy can help us win, then fine, I’ll support him. But dude is a gopher machine. He thinks that “chicks dig the long ball………..when you serve them up on a platter so the opposing team can hit them”.
Roman Gal
August 27th, 2009
11:14 pm
Steve-
It’s true. I read what other people say about him. I’ve gathered that he’s long-winded and redundant. Plus, if I can tell a post is going to be overly negative I usually skip it, as well. I love baseball and sometimes reading here can just flat out make me mad about things. There’s no need in reading what I know won’t be good.
jeffrey d
August 27th, 2009
11:15 pm
I hear Schafer has to request special Q-Tips because the regular ones are too big and won’t fit in his small ears.
Wayne in Utah
August 27th, 2009
11:15 pm
I’m sure that Buddy Carlyle is a nice guy. However, as I said before, this is not the “Make a Wish Foundation”. This is professional sports. I want to see the Braves put the guys out there who will give us our best chance to win.—–Paul Dunce
Or translated, whoever can get me my fantasy points.
Once again, Dunce proves he doesn’t know much about baseball. Only stats.
Brandon from Warner Robins
August 27th, 2009
11:15 pm
How bout a little Stranglehold?
Steve from OH
August 27th, 2009
11:16 pm
Amen to that, RG!
bravefaninok
August 27th, 2009
11:16 pm
Doc, My post wasn’t comparing ATL to philly or philly to the mets,
Was meant to be more of a reminder,Anything can happen (it actually has)
I am a braves fan win or lose.
Roman Gal
August 27th, 2009
11:16 pm
That was awfully nice of you! Steve
Hey, I said I’d have you all convinced that he had normal-sized ears…not teeny tiny ones.
Steve from OH
August 27th, 2009
11:17 pm
Once again, Dunce proves he doesn’t know much about baseball. Only stats.
No, he doesn’t know much about those, either. He likes batting average and RBI, and still hasn’t told me his problems with UZR or any of the fangraphs player valuation stats.
The A Bomb
August 27th, 2009
11:17 pm
Lentz — I’m not going to dignify that with a long-winded response. I’m sure this blog is going to crucify you. I will not. I lost my father recently to this disease and he lost both legs. I am Type-2. My son is 20 and has Type-1.
For Carlyle to make it back to the majors tonight was unbelievable. Just like Jay Cutler, who many say is overrated and while I dislike him as a QB, I root for him because of what he has overcome to this point.
I’m sure if this blog had a “wish” I know what it would be.
Paul Lentz
August 27th, 2009
11:18 pm
Buddy Carlyle equals Brad Clontz equals Mark Redman equals Blaine Boyer equals Dan Kolb equals Jeff Bennett.
Doc Holiday
August 27th, 2009
11:18 pm
If there is a win that will make me a happy braves fan will be tomorrow against Pedro……..I wanna see that prepotent Narcissist bleed.
Shamus Thacker
August 27th, 2009
11:19 pm
Anybody ever check Schafer’s ears for egg sacs?
Wayne in Utah
August 27th, 2009
11:19 pm
Steve
He would love all those new stats, except his fantasy league probably doesn’t use them. He is all about the fantasy aspect.
I will give him one thing, he has managed to ignore us pretty much! I didn’t think the dipshyt had it in him. Doesn’t mean I won’t quit digging though!
Soph
August 27th, 2009
11:20 pm
The A Bomb -
I’m sorry for your loss. Very well said at 11:17.
Doc Holiday
August 27th, 2009
11:20 pm
bravefaninok,
I didnt say you were. Iam.
Anything “can” happen, but this just wont.
CaliChopper
August 27th, 2009
11:20 pm
Lentz – take Buddy’s name out of there and add your own, it fits
Supes
August 27th, 2009
11:21 pm
A-Bomb,
good job tonight, you didn’t mention the low attendance numbers. you are learning
Brandon from Warner Robins
August 27th, 2009
11:21 pm
Very well said A-Bomb @ 11:17. I’m sorry for your loss.
Steve from OH
August 27th, 2009
11:22 pm
And seriously, you gotta take shots at Buddy? Over your fantasy numbers? WTF is wrong with you, dude?
Go Buddy!
bravefaninok
August 27th, 2009
11:22 pm
Doc Holiday
HMMMMM didn’t the mighty phillies just lose 2 out of 3 to the pirates?
almost as bad as losing 2 out of 3 to the padres!
Wayne in Utah
August 27th, 2009
11:22 pm
A-Bomb
Type 2 here also…..I wouldn’t wish that on anybody, especially Type 1. I wouldn’t even wish it on such a dipshyt as Dunce!
Someday, something is going to happen to make him wish he was a bit more caring towards others, and then it’s going to be too late.
He truly is a sad little man.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 27th, 2009
11:22 pm
Doc, lemme find where I read it
Supes
August 27th, 2009
11:22 pm
Anyone here have a feeling the Braves will be feasting on Pedro Martinez tomorrow night? I just remember the last time we got to smack him around when he was a member of the NY Mets and was topping out in the mid 80’s with his fastball. Those were good times!
Soph
August 27th, 2009
11:23 pm
Gonna wait for some quotes from my boys and then I’m out. Tiiiiiired.
Paul Lentz
August 27th, 2009
11:23 pm
The A Bomb…………..Dude, I never said that Carlyle wasnt a nice guy. I said that I simply dont like him as a pitcher. Dude is BUM on the pitcher’s mound.
You guys crucify Kawakami who has an ERA of 4.08. Just because Carlyle is coming back from diabetics does not mean that he “deserves” a spot on a Major League roster. Then again, many people in this country think that just because someone is faithful to their wife….that makes them qualified to be President of the United States of America.
Carlyle’s sympathetic story does not necessarily mean that he is qualified to be a Major League pitcher. A man being faithful to his wife does not automatically earn him the right to be President either.
The A Bomb
August 27th, 2009
11:24 pm
LENTZ!
Carlyle equals none of them because of what he has to deal with. Take some time and do some REAL research.
That might require more URGENCY than the IGNORANCE you are displaying right now.
CaliChopper
August 27th, 2009
11:24 pm
Doc Holiday – you have Bowman saying Wren says KK moving to pen and earlier in this blog Carroll saying Bobby says no pen for KK, after Bowman posted his,me? I’d go with Carrolls story
Doc Holiday
August 27th, 2009
11:24 pm
bravefaninok,
Sure, they just are in HYBERNATION MODE, waiting for the Braves to push their own WINNING BUTTON for them to start another 5 game winning streak.
Roman Gal
August 27th, 2009
11:25 pm
I hear Schafer has to request special Q-Tips because the regular ones are too big and won’t fit in his small ears.
Let me guess, you were to one who told him where the “Everything is Smaller Here” store was, right?
(Kidding)
Wayne in Utah
August 27th, 2009
11:25 pm
Jurrjens
To answer an earlier question, I watch a lot of news, but only ONE channel. I think you know which one. I will not watch the others. When I am in a hotel lobby or breakfast area, and they have one of those other outlets on, I get out of there as quickly as possible.
Steve from OH
August 27th, 2009
11:25 pm
Oh, is this the portion of the program where we get lessons on life and morality from Paul Lentz? Hold on, I’ll pop some popcorn and be right back…
The A Bomb
August 27th, 2009
11:26 pm
No Lentz — he doesn’t deserve anything.
He just deserves his opportunity and he’s getting it now. If it doesn’t work out at least he gave it his all.
Opportunity. That’s all.
Supes
August 27th, 2009
11:26 pm
Speaking of fantasy…if you are in need of an OF/Utility slot player, Matt Diaz is waiting and available in almost all leagues out there 90% available(expect mine), where he’s been picked up and raking up points for my team.
Random
August 27th, 2009
11:26 pm
Wayne in Utah (August 27th, 2009 10:57 pm): “Jurrjens
I don’t have the inclination or the drive that Random does to go back and find your exact comments, but you went a little ape shyt when Bobby pulled JV. You sounded like a little kid who dropped his ice cream cone, and pitched a fit about it.”
Why, whatever do you mean…..?
Jurrjens4NLCY (August 27th, 2009 9:43 pm): “If Bobby takes out Vasquez, Ill be a bobby hater for a while….”
(9:54 pm): “F** BOBBY!!!”
(10:00 pm): “No, Javy should finish!”
(10:06 pm): “If Javy can go nine, let him go nine!”
(10:07 pm): “That is the stupidest thing Bobby has ever done, Javy should have stayed….”
(10:13 pm): “Jurrjens4NLCY – its 9-0, why put the extra pitches on his arm when you don’t need to?”
“Because Vasquez is having a dominant year, He’s only thrown 88 pitches, thats about 20 lower than normal, and Vasquez well need a shutout under his belt to contend for Cy Young award. If you wanna rest a pitcher, how about resting this over-used bullpen…. Makes no sense at all.”
(10:14 pm): “Vasquez needed that shutout…”
(10:18 pm): “Screw you Bobby, I’m a little ticked at you Buddy”
(10:19 pm): “Damn Bobby! I’ll never forget this!”
. . . . .
“It’s called obsessive compulsion Wayne… lol”
Or it could be called doing a favor for a friend — a couple of concepts alien to some.
. . . . .
PS: Tip o’ the hat to Doc Holiday, whose bit I stole.
Soph
August 27th, 2009
11:26 pm
Wayne -
CNN?
Roman Gal
August 27th, 2009
11:26 pm
The Schafer jokes are in no short supply tonight.
CaliChopper
August 27th, 2009
11:27 pm
Carroll Rogers
August 27th, 2009
5:06 pm
So you guys got the news on Hudson starting Monday and Kawakami being skipped a start in the rotation…First of all, I think the timing of the move speaks to the urgency of their situation and for that, I think y’all should be happy. Hudson said he told the Braves (aka Roger and Bobby) he was ready after his last start in the minors. We’ll see if he’s ready, but not sure what a difference two days make for those who say he’s not ready. He was on schedule to debut on Wednesday either way.
Bobby said yes they considered a six-man rotation and no they will not pitch Kawakami out of the bullpen. And he said yes, Kawakami will start again. But they’ve got flexibility here in five days when rosters expand.
Yes Buddy is up and Acosta is back to Gwinnett. Cox said Acosta threw a ton of pitches and they could use a fresh arm. Acosta will be back in 10 days, Cox said.
The A Bomb
August 27th, 2009
11:27 pm
No Steve –
This isn’t morality. This is flat out ignorance.
Lentz — take a 20-minute break and do some research and see why Carlyle deserves PROPS for making it back. He performed in the minors.
Opportunity. That’s it.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 27th, 2009
11:27 pm
Damn, I can’t find it but I found stuff that favors the idea of a six man rotation if you want that…
I’m kinda confused…
Steve from OH
August 27th, 2009
11:28 pm
A Bomb–you don’t need to explain it to me. I know he’s and idiot.
jeffrey d
August 27th, 2009
11:28 pm
I was only making fun of Jerome.
Paul Lentz
August 27th, 2009
11:29 pm
I want to see the Braves win PERIOD. I’d rather have a team full of A-HOLES who help us win the World Series……..than have a team of SAINTS who at best play .500 ball. My reason why…….I’m NEVER going to meet these guys or hang out with them. I will never know them personally. And when it comes down to it, they could care less about the average fan. They are only concerned about themselves and their families. And to be honest, I dont blame them.
So knowing that, I root for my team to win, because I’m a fan of the team. I like a player for as long as he produces for the team. And the players will tolerate the fans as long as the fans continue to PAY TO SEE THEM PLAY. It’s as simple as that.
Too bad many of you cant see that. Many of you “actually” think that the players care about you, the fan. What a bunch of easy MARKS!
CaliChopper
August 27th, 2009
11:29 pm
well before Jurrjens4NLCY woke up from his nap and pitched a fit because Javy came out after 7
Soph
August 27th, 2009
11:29 pm
I’m kinda confused…
What else is new?
Sorry kid, it was too easy. Checkmate?
Doc Holiday
August 27th, 2009
11:29 pm
Random,
Come again……
Supes
August 27th, 2009
11:30 pm
I don’t believe KK is suited to be a relief pitcher out of the pen.
It would be a grave mistake to move him to the pen and bobby hasn’t said that he’s going. They are just skipping his turn this one time and we’ll see from there what happens. I guess a lot depends on how Tim Hudson pitches on monday.
I’m in favor of the 6 man rotation for september. Both KK and Hanson need to be protected and get extra rest. KK has pitched in a 6 man rotation all of his life until this year, and this is by far the most innings Tommy Hanson has ever thrown in his life in one year….it makes good sense.
Brandon from Warner Robins
August 27th, 2009
11:30 pm
JJ4NLCY scrolled through the blog. Good Stuff
Cheech
August 27th, 2009
11:30 pm
I guess there is life left after all for the Braves. Now we’ll have to see how they do against division rivals. There is hope.
jeffrey d
August 27th, 2009
11:30 pm
I’d rather have a team full of A-HOLES who help us win the World Series
You’re trying out for the Braves??
SoonerBrave
August 27th, 2009
11:30 pm
Wayne –
Well, I was going to say exactly what you did regarding why Dentz hasn’t been kicked off….unfortunately I your right that it has to do with the blog hits for the AJC. Very disgusting in my opinion, hope its not true…but i think it is…
Paul Lentz
August 27th, 2009
11:30 pm
The A Bomb…………I’ve seen enough of Carlyle pitch in the past, before he got Diabetes, to know that he is no more than a mop up man, at best, at the Major League level.
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 27th, 2009
11:31 pm
Random, I’m not trying to hide the fact that I wanted Vasquez to finish, and now I feel bad because you went through all that. I would have easily re state all those things if you wanted….
Brandon from Warner Robins
August 27th, 2009
11:32 pm
Jeffrey D. that was a good one.
bravefaninok
August 27th, 2009
11:32 pm
Doc Holiday
August 27th, 2009
11:24 pm
bravefaninok,
Sure, they just are in HYBERNATION MODE, waiting for the Braves to push their own WINNING BUTTON for them to start another 5 game winning streak.
You may be right(i hope not) Go Braves…
Goodnight,,
Jurrjens4NLCY {Knoble.MLBlogs.com}
August 27th, 2009
11:32 pm
What else is new?
Sorry kid, it was too easy. Checkmate?
Sure, I’m tired.