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Wayne in Utah
August 26th, 2009
11:10 pm
RHR
Hilarious! Thanks for the link!
SRF
August 26th, 2009
11:10 pm
You guys know that we will trade Norton to the Phillies and he will suddenly get hot and will be the NLCS MVP…
Paul Lentz
August 26th, 2009
11:11 pm
brian……..I agree with your 11:02pm posting. Some people on here feel that it is “unpatriotic” to question our leaders (unless they go against the “fair and balanced” mantra…….what a freaking joke).
I didnt mention Ozzie Guillen’s name because the White Sox arent going to let him go. Neither are the Marlins going to let Freddie Gonzalez.
I suggested Bobby Valentine because he knows how to make his presence know in a locker room. He wont allow his players to have a BS performance like the Braves did tonight without trying to light a fire in their A$$ES.
Bobby Cox does not deserve a shot at managing the Braves next year, just like John Smotz and Tom Glavine did not deserve a spot in the Braves rotation this year. Bobby is too old and too set in his ways to manage. It’s disheartening to see the Braves play like this and give away games like they did last night in the 12 inning game.
larry30
August 26th, 2009
11:11 pm
That’s because the games in April and May count. Maybe next year they will play with as much urgency in April as they do in July. The article about Chipper was very disturbing today. It seemed to me by his comments after the Thursday night game in L.A. when Soriano gave up the game ending homer that he was ready to mail it in for the rest of the season, then the team went on a streak while he was injured and on the bench. Would he consider a trade to an American League team where he could finish his career as a DH? He never looks like he is having any fun and smiles seem to disappear he comes to the dugout, although their dugout looks dead most of the time anyway.
Bobby Cox
August 26th, 2009
11:12 pm
I could while away the hours.
Conferrin’ with the flowers.
Consultin’ with the rain…
Soph
August 26th, 2009
11:12 pm
LMAO – RHR, I have tears in my eyes.
“The whole club was lookin at her”
Mixxo
August 26th, 2009
11:12 pm
RHR -
Thanks! I needed that after tonight’s game. Makes me wanna get my own freak on.
Funny stuff!
Larry Orange
August 26th, 2009
11:13 pm
If you have to have a retread for a new manager , how about Davey Johnson. Used to play second base here. And he won everywhere he went.
Kurdt Kobain
August 26th, 2009
11:14 pm
What has Valentine ever accomplished? That would just be a big step backwards, bringing that guy in.
Not to mention, uh… he coached the METS! Why don’t we just bring in Mike Piazza to coach?
Wayne in Utah
August 26th, 2009
11:14 pm
Dunce
Were you born an idiot, or did it take years to refine your idiocy?
Kurdt Kobain
August 26th, 2009
11:15 pm
No Davey Johnson either. He just killed the USA in the WBC this year.
Atlanta Braves Ticket Office
August 26th, 2009
11:15 pm
You’re in luck: we have an opening!!!
Thousands of them, in fact!!!
But we don’t have quite that many Greg Norton bobbleheads…
Would you settle for a few of Gorkys Hernandez?
brent a.
August 26th, 2009
11:15 pm
Don’t blame Fred Hickman. It’s just not in his nature to be forced into “homerism”.
Put him back on a real sports show, and he’ll probably be good again.
IMO, Bobby Cox retirement party coming soon.
Wayne in Utah
August 26th, 2009
11:16 pm
Bobby must go. How could he allow his players to play so poorly tonight? Bad, bad Bobby!
brent a.
August 26th, 2009
11:16 pm
Wayne, When did you get so mean?
cr0n
August 26th, 2009
11:17 pm
Braves season is over. Inconsistent, no hitting, it’s over…………………………….I bet all of you “take it for granted” fans miss those divisions wins we had year after year. I’m ready for football!!!!!
StingerSplash
August 26th, 2009
11:17 pm
Bobby Valentine? The same yutz who donned a pair of Groucho glasses to sneak back into the dugout after he’d gotten run from the game? Nice way to respect the game, BV. Hope he continues to chase down his sashimi with a fine sake for a long time.
Wayne in Utah
August 26th, 2009
11:17 pm
When Bobby decides to hang them up (and personally, I hope it happens when HE is ready), I suspect the new manager will come from within the organization.
CaliChopper
August 26th, 2009
11:18 pm
How many days till opening day? jeez starting to feel like a cubs fan
brian
August 26th, 2009
11:18 pm
sorry paul – I must have been banging my head against the wall and missed that one
Kurdt Kobain
August 26th, 2009
11:19 pm
Wayne, yep.
Terry Pendleton
August 26th, 2009
11:19 pm
I humbly accept.
Paul Lentz
August 26th, 2009
11:19 pm
CaliChopper …….Do you really think that Bobby Valentine would have stuck with Jeff Francoeur, Kelly Johnson, Greg Norton, and Jeff Bennett as long as Bobby Cox did? I blame Bobby Cox for our struggles in the first half of the season. The Braves are above .500 DESPITE having Bobby Cox as the manager.
Every move he stuck with in the first half of the season backfired on him. It seemed like he was hell bent on sticking with what “doesnt work”. Frank Wren’s moves saved the season. If Bobby had his way, Kelly Johnson would be our starting base man, Francoeur would still be playing right field, stinking up the place for us, and Jeff Bennett would be our 6th-7th inning guy. If Bennett didnt slam his fist into the wall after the Boston game, he would still be pitching for us.
Wayne in Utah
August 26th, 2009
11:20 pm
brent a
When the resident blog idiot decided to come back, without any reference whatsoever to his incredibly harsh and cruel comments to Mitchie-san and all our armed services members (of which I currently have one son serving, and another who has in the past).
So, until the azz hole apologizes, I will continue to push his buttons whenever it suits me, or until I get bannished.
Sorry if that sounds mean, but that’s the way it is.
Just trying to be “fair and balanced” for the blog idiot!
Larry "Chipper" Jones
August 26th, 2009
11:20 pm
My attitude is the reflection of my Leader. Bobby told me last night that we do not need to have a sense of urgency. He suggested that I take it easy until September. He has confidence in me to be the highest paid and best #3 singles hitter in MLB.
Paul Lentz
August 26th, 2009
11:21 pm
Kurdt Kobain………..Bobby Valentine would be an IMPROVEMENT over the job that Bobby Cox has done this year. Cox should have been fired after the meltdown in Colorado on the Sunday before the All-Star Break.
brian
August 26th, 2009
11:21 pm
still waiting to see the singles “Chipper”
The A Bomb
August 26th, 2009
11:22 pm
Atlanta Braves Ticket Office… We’ll go for all the Norton bobbleheads and if you can, maybe we can get some old school bobbleheads to make up the difference — the Jeff Dedmon bobblehead (1985) or the Charlie Puleo bobblehead from ‘88.
Just looking forward to filling the house tomorrow!
Wayne in Utah
August 26th, 2009
11:22 pm
Dunce,
Don’t you have an Acorn meeting to go to??
Paul Lentz
August 26th, 2009
11:22 pm
The Rockies are down 6-1 going into the bottom of the 9th, and they still have over 30,000 fans left in the ballpark.
Larry "Chipper" Jones
August 26th, 2009
11:23 pm
Brian, I had a single about 31 at bats ago. Dont you remember?
Wayne in Utah
August 26th, 2009
11:24 pm
Dunce
Why don’t you go away and go play some poker? And not come back…..
jeffrey d
August 26th, 2009
11:24 pm
I understand that the Braves aren’t playing well and their playoff chances are grim now. But what I can’t stand is the bunch of know-it-alls bragging about how right they were that the Braves suck, who have been calling the season over since the first Phillie’s series.
Steve from OH
August 26th, 2009
11:24 pm
Wayne–easy. We mock his baseball knowledge, not his political belief (except his contempt for our servicemen and women. Shame on you, Paul). Really, his baseball posts should give us more material than we can handle to mock.
Kurdt Kobain
August 26th, 2009
11:24 pm
I disagree, paul.
Steve from OH
August 26th, 2009
11:26 pm
Valentine an improvement over Cox? WTF are you smoking?
CaliChopper
August 26th, 2009
11:26 pm
Ummm Lentz, while Bobby C does alot that makes me bang my head against the wall, I’d take him hands down over Valentine any day. Oh and by the way, All those moves you say Wren did to save the second half of the season…. don’t happen without Bobby’s say so. Bobby HAS his way with the line up every day, KJ doesn’t start.
NO MORE BOBBY
August 26th, 2009
11:26 pm
Wayne – I applaud you for having the balls to continue to stand up for Bobby but at some point you need to let the past go. Your telling me because a guy wins one world series FOURTEEN YEARS ago he is allowed to stay as long as he wants and keep an entire organization from moving forward?
Kinda sounds like your putting one man before the team to me.
The A Bomb
August 26th, 2009
11:28 pm
I’d rather see Karen Valentine manage the Braves.
Steve from OH
August 26th, 2009
11:28 pm
Oh, those Mets…
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/two-more-bite-the-dust-in-queens
Atlanta Braves Ticket Office
August 26th, 2009
11:30 pm
Filling the house…?
Did I mention we’re offering HUGE DISCOUNTS in certain sections?
Did I mention that certain sections means all the sections?
brian
August 26th, 2009
11:30 pm
Paul – I think the Braves discussions with the Phillies would go something like this.
Are you intersted in Gonzo or Soriano?
Yes. What do you have in mind?
Domonic
Click. Dialtone
Paul Lentz
August 26th, 2009
11:30 pm
jeffrey d…………..after watching baseball for 25 years, it’s easy for me to see the writing on the wall. Havent you been paying attention to how inconsistent we have been playing? Even the Atlanta fans know that this team lack passion…….lacks heart. This team does not play with the intensity it needs.
How else do you explain what happened tonight? Talk about Jeckel and Hyde! First 5 inning, we are up 3-0. After that, the pitching and defense experiences a MELTDOWN. Are the Padres “that good” that they “forced” us to play as bad as we did? Or did the Braves feel that they “had the game in the bag” and didnt need to play with the intensity needed to finish out the Padres tonight?
So again, please tell me what happened after the 5th inning if the Braves didnt “call it a night” mentally?
Kurdt Kobain
August 26th, 2009
11:30 pm
Is losing Oliver Perez for the year a good or bad thing for the Mets?
Wayne in Utah
August 26th, 2009
11:30 pm
Steve
The fact he is allowed to remain, tells me that it doesn’t matter what I say. I have taken the position of not giving a damn about what I say anymore. The blog is not well policed anyway.
If I can make a dig or two and try to get under his skin, and somebody else gets their feelings hurt, then I am sorry. But from this point on, that is my approach.
I won’t always be this way, but if the mood strikes……
Steve from OH
August 26th, 2009
11:31 pm
Probably a good thing, Kurdt. Well, good for their W/L record. Bad for the bank account.
The A Bomb
August 26th, 2009
11:33 pm
Question — On the days dogs are allowed, are they counted in the attendance as well?
Steve from OH
August 26th, 2009
11:33 pm
Wayne–hell, you ain’t hurting my feelings whatsoever. Just take the high road. Attack him for something that he can’t defend (his lack of baseball intellect). Agree that he should’ve been gone for his remarks about our soldiers, but what’s done is done…
Kurdt Kobain
August 26th, 2009
11:34 pm
Yeah, I figured that’d be the only real negative. Paying him loooooootts of money. Boy don’t the Mets want a do-over there. Derek Lowe may be struggling lately, but at least he’s not Oliver Perez!
Paul Lentz
August 26th, 2009
11:34 pm
CaliChopper………..Do you really think that Bobby approved of Francoeur getting traded? What about Jeff Bennett getting released?
Martin Prado pretty much forced Bobby Cox to play him everyday. If Bobby were to bench Prado for Kelly, the Braves fans would explode. Even the newspapers would be forced to call Bobby on it.
Continuing to play Greg Norton is one of Bobby’s last stands as manager.
jeffrey d
August 26th, 2009
11:34 pm
Paul – what I said was I know the Braves don’t have a good chance. But I hate the people who come on here and say “the season’s over. You’re stupid if you don’t see it.”
I see it. But I don’t want these know it all, “I’ll hope for the worst so I can say AHA! I was right” types crowding up the place.
David O'Brien
August 26th, 2009
11:34 pm
Little bit of disagreement in the clubhouse over whether the Braves, in O’Flaherty’s words, might have “let up” or “lost focus” against the Padres. Chipper did not at all agree with that assessment.
Here’s the game story, with quotes, unedited:
By David O’Brien
dobrien@ajc.com
The Braves’ plans for a big homestand have fizzled, and they face the dispiriting possibility of being swept by the last-place San Diego Padres and having their postseason chances diminished.
They got hammered 12-5 by the Padres on Wednesday night before a sparse crowd at Turner Field, where they demonstrated how not to push for a playoff berth.
Brian McCann’s three-run homer in the first provided a 3-0 lead that stood through five, but it unraveled on Kenshin Kawakami (6-10) and the Braves in a ragged, six-run sixth that sent San Diego to its second win in as many nights.
“Pretty helpless feeling,” Chipper Jones said of the sixth, when the Padres got seven hits against Kawakami and Eric O’Flaherty. “You play a game hard, and you just don’t show up for one inning. It kind of snowballed from there….
“We didn’t make pitches and we didn’t make plays.”
The Braves are 2-3 on this six-game homestand. They fell back behind Florida to third in the National League East and fourth in the NL wild-card standings, eight games behind division leader Philadelphia and 5-1/2 games behind wild-card leader Colorado.
“I’m well aware of [playoff-race implications], and that’s the reason it’s disappointing that I wasn’t able to perform,” Kawakami said through a translator. He was charged with four runs and seven hits in 5-1/3 innings.
The Braves must win tonight against the Padres just to avoid being swept by a team that came to town 22-1/2 games out of first in the NL West.
“Listen, anybody can beat anybody,” said manager Bobby Cox, when asked about losing these back-to-back games. “Pittsburgh beat Philadelphia last night without any of their [Pirates] regulars. And almost beat them again tonight.”
Before this series, the Braves had won eight consecutive series and 19 of 25 games in four seasons against the Padres. But for two nights they’ve been out-played by a rebuilding San Diego team with nothing to play for but the future.
O’Flaherty said it had nothing to do with the pressure of a playoff race.
“I don’t think the pressure of playing this time of year gets to anybody here, especially against a team like that,” said the left-hander, who was charged with three hits, two runs and one out while recording just one out in the sixth.
“If anything, we might have let up a little bit, maybe lost focus.”
Jones did not agree with that assessment. At all.
“We didn’t lose any focus through six innings,” Jones said. “Position players didn’t lose any focus. We didn’t lose any focus last night [in a 2-1, 12-inning loss Tuesday]. We battled our tails off.
“I don’t think…” The veteran paused. “Nevermind.”
Padres right-hander Tim Stauffer (2-6) worked five innings and didn’t give a run after McCann’s homer. He was 0-4 with a 5.40 ERA in his past four starts.
Jones, whom the Braves have always been able to count on to carry them for long stretches, went hitless and is mired in 1-for-32 skid with one RBI in 10 games. He’s hit .237 in his past 63 games, after hitting .335 in his first 48.
Kawakami flirted with danger in the first, but escaped after loading the bases with no outs. He also stranded two runners in the second, beginning a stretch in which he retired 10 consecutive batters, protecting the 3-0 lead.
Then things turned ugly in the sixth. Cox said he thought Kawakami might have been fatigued after working so hard in the first two innings. Kawakami said not.
“I should have approached some batters differently” the third time he faced them, he said.
After Adrian Gonzalez doubled to lead off the sixth, Chase Headley singled and Will Venable hit an RBI double that popped out of right fielder Matt Diaz’s glove at the wall.
A groundout drove in the second run, then Nick Hundley hit a game-tying double.
O’Flaherty relieved Kawakami, and the hitting continued. On a Luis Rodriguez single to center, Ryan Church made a strong, but low, throw to the plate that Brian McCann mishandled. Two runs scored on the play, the second after the ball squirted out of McCann’s glove.
Steve from OH
August 26th, 2009
11:35 pm
Amen to that, Kurdt!
NO MORE BOBBY
August 26th, 2009
11:35 pm
I blame this season on the new Turner Field organist.
The A Bomb
August 26th, 2009
11:36 pm
Uh, Bobby — McCutchen hit a walkoff HR for the Bucs last night — isn’t he a “regular?”
Soph
August 26th, 2009
11:36 pm
Wow, strong quotes from Chipper.
Steve from OH
August 26th, 2009
11:37 pm
What’s the over/under on the number of days until EOF’s body is discovered on Chipper’s ranch?
On a serious note, you don’t hear too much from him. Yea/nay on his clubhouse chemistry?
Wayne in Utah
August 26th, 2009
11:37 pm
NO MORE BOBBY
I appreciate your first comment. I have not bought into the hype that Bobby is holding anything back. I do believe that his style has NOT changed over the years. He has NOT gotten too old for the job. He still screws up as frequently as he ever did. Years ago, he had more of Ted’s money for players than he currently does.
Doesn’t mean he is any different than before. Either you like his approach (I do) or you don’t (you do).
I just don’t understand that anybody with any real hint of intelligence would think that the Braves would be thinking about actually firing a future Hall of Fame manager.
I dare you to do an internet search and find any negative statements made by any other players or baseball people about Bobby. I have NEVER heard it, outside of this blog and a select few other idiots who know very little about managing people.
Go find them!
Paul Lentz
August 26th, 2009
11:37 pm
brian…………Do you really think that the Braves would just give away either Soriano or Gonzalez? If the Phillies dont want to pay the price, then they will just have to go to the play-offs with Brad Lidge as their closer. Frank Wren knows this.
Hey, after pulling off the Church-Francoeur trade……..I have all the confidence in the world in Frank Wren’s ability to not get robbed in a trade.
Atlanta Braves Ticket Office
August 26th, 2009
11:38 pm
Yes, and thanks to that promotion, we finally surpassed the Pittsburgh Pirates in attendance!!!
If you have any other animal friends, please treat them to a thrilling game at Turner Field!!!
NO MORE BOBBY
August 26th, 2009
11:39 pm
DOB – Chipper did not at all agree with that assessment.
That’s because Chipper gave up a month ago. Get it right O’Flaherty!!!
Steve from OH
August 26th, 2009
11:40 pm
A moderately hilarious note from MetsBlog:
“By the way, the Mets rotation is now Pat Misch, Tim Redding, Bobby Parnell, Nelson Figueroa and Mike Pelfrey.”
Ouch.
CaliChopper
August 26th, 2009
11:40 pm
Lentz, yes, yes, no and now I hope he continues it, just to bother you. Nothing happens player wise that Bobby doesn’t have a say on. And it will be that way till Bobby deceides to hang up his spikes or upper managment is changed.
Soph
August 26th, 2009
11:41 pm
“If anything, we might have let up a little bit, maybe lost focus.” – EOF
We? No, not we…that would be KK & the bullpen tonight.
Paul Lentz
August 26th, 2009
11:41 pm
jeffrey d……….Even though I “officially” proclaimed our season over after the meltdown in the last game of the San Francisco series after the All-Star Break………..I have repeatedly stated that I would LOVE to be wrong about my assessment. I root for us to win every game. I want to see the Braves make the playoffs. I’ll be the first to admit I was wrong if we can make the playoffs.
However, just because I love the Braves does not mean that I have to “ignore” reality. There are a combination of reasons that the Braves will not make the playoffs this year.
CaliChopper
August 26th, 2009
11:42 pm
Wayne in Utah – Amen
Eric C.
August 26th, 2009
11:42 pm
DOB…how about some Roy Orbison…It’s over, it’s over, it’s oooooooover!
hugedawgfan
August 26th, 2009
11:44 pm
stick a fork in them–they’re done. Can’t beat the teams you are supposed to and make any ground in the wild card much less the division. See you guys next year-there definitely needs to be a change in Atlanta, starting at the top. How many more yrs do we do this song and dance? get a petition started to get the Braves out of Atlanta. They need a new direction, should’ve pulled the trigger before trading deadline. Quit trying to sign long-term and go for the moment especially when we had a little momentum heading down the home stretch. Way to go Braves. Should have kept conrad and traded Johnson–Oh and try this for a change, stay healthy Braves for a majority of a season please.
Kurdt Kobain
August 26th, 2009
11:45 pm
“By the way, the Mets rotation is now Pat Misch, Tim Redding, Bobby Parnell, Nelson Figueroa and Mike Pelfrey.”
Keep it all in perspective, folks.
curtis jones
August 26th, 2009
11:45 pm
As long as the Braves continue to “build around” an aging, aching, ailing 3rd baseman/# 3 hitter who waves at balls as they enter the land of Garret, and will likely finish the year .270 15/58, they will go nowhere.
Mixxo
August 26th, 2009
11:46 pm
Ahhhh….Milwaukee lost again. I’m good!
N8
August 26th, 2009
11:47 pm
brewdawg, is it really too much to ask that our “contending” team, that is finally playing meaningful baseball in late August win a frickin’ game against the Padres?
But like I stated the other night. After about 3 days of posting nothing but praise for this club, NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON chose to point out my negativity.
As I’ve always stated. I keep it real. If they’re sucking ass, I’m gonna bitch about it. If they’re winning, I’ll praise (but possibly pointing out what I didn’t like, even in victory – usually to tame the “we’re going to the playoffs” crowd).
But win, lose, rain, shine, snow, hail, hurricane, el nino, drought….. whatever the hell else you want to throw in there, I will never be glad that Bobby Cox is the Braves manager.
So yeah. To a point, you’re right. As long as he’s wearing #6 in the dugout and yelling stupid as nicknames at the players…. I probably won’t be “satisfied”, as you put it.
A FAN
August 26th, 2009
11:48 pm
as chad ocho cinco says this team can kiss the baby!!!!
Dumbfound
August 26th, 2009
11:48 pm
Okay ! If Frank Wren and John Shurholez are not willing to start with replacing people including the manager ! When do Liberty Media step in a say, Look ! We gave you a 10 million extra dollars this year to spend and my business isn’t returning me a profit ! To whom do I start with ! No ! I don’t care about winning But, My business is not making me money !! (Ticket sales)
Wayne in Utah
August 26th, 2009
11:48 pm
Cali
It irks the heck out of me the idiocy of some, who think they know better than career baseball men. They know which players are BUMS and which ones are worthy to be on a team. They know whether a team has enough urgency.
Thanks for the backup!
CaliChopper
August 26th, 2009
11:49 pm
Say what you want about him, KK has stones, Bobby gave him an out and he didn’t take it. Said he blew it and stood up.
Kurdt Kobain
August 26th, 2009
11:49 pm
I don’t think the Braves are building around Chipper anymore.
Supes
August 26th, 2009
11:49 pm
A-Bomb,
What in the wolrd is your obsession with the attendance numbers @ the Ted? Come on let’s hear it. B/C every time the Braves fail to draw well for a home game you come on the blog and vent your frustrations about it with sarcastic attempts that are not even remotely funny? So let’s hear it, or should I say read about it?
Paul Lentz,
You’ve been catching a lot of grief from Wayne and Steve, 2 blog vets and regulars…but actually in your baseball related posts you make good points. Oh, and your argument with Shaun was rather pointless b/c you both were saying the same thing for several pages. Just agree to disagree I say.
I do agree with you that next year for Wren and the Braves to make the right moves, I do think that a new manger is needed to work with Frank on putting together the roster.
I’ve been a fan of Eddie Perez for manager ever since that scuffle with the Angels a few years ago, and Eddie was in the dugout then and wanted to go after one of the Angels’ players. That showed me all I needed to know (Eddie was a coach, I think bench coach then, not sure but coaching in the dugout). Plus Eddie strikes me as a no BS type guy, a good hearted guy, and traditionally catchers can make good managers…look at Mike S with the Angels (speaking of the Angels, he came to mind). Tough as nails as a manager and the players respect him, but he doesn’t play favorites like Cox.
DOB,
Thanks for those quotes, that’s pretty harsh stuff. I hope someone flipped over the postgame spread in the clubhouse and did the whole “this is what your season is going to look like if you don’t get your sh*t together very soon” speech.
EOF ought to keep his MOUTH shut. He let the team down tonight with his own “lack of focus”.
Chipper has earned the right to say whatever the frak he wants to. He’s the position players leader from a veteran’s point of view and should be the one making comments like that, not some middle reliever like EOF.
Larry "Chipper" Jones
August 26th, 2009
11:49 pm
If I only had Mark Lemke, Fred McGriff, David Justice, Javy Lopez, Jeff Blauser, Marquiss Grissom and Ryan Klesko in this line up. Man, we would go to the World Series.
Necromancer
August 26th, 2009
11:49 pm
Hello folks.
Actually, I dig the new Turner Field organist. They have played pretty decent since whoever is playing the thing now, has come on board.
Oh, and damn…if the Braves are gonna get to the post season, they’re gonna have to play a helluva lot better against sucky teams like San Diego.
I agree with O’Flaherty…the Braves have lost focus..and I hope it’s only temporary..
Kurdt Kobain
August 26th, 2009
11:51 pm
KK definitely has stones, but I learned that after the Dodgers game. That 7th inning he pitched was probably the gutsiest pitching performance all season. Though, the pitching in general was unbelievable in that series.
Wayne in Utah
August 26th, 2009
11:51 pm
curtis
What intelligent thing would you recommend for the Braves third base situation? Don’t rip it, if you don’t have a solution to offer.
But, use some intelligence in forming your solution. Take a look at his history, his contract and his willingness to take less in the past for the team.
Paul Lentz
August 26th, 2009
11:51 pm
David O’Brien………Your 11:34pm post game report definitely got a reaction out of me.
I want to preface this by saying that I am a big Chipper Jones fan. I support him because of his abilities at the plate. However, his post game comment, if taken correctly in their context, are TOTALLY wrong.
Eric O’Flaherty was 100% right with his “let up” and “lost focus” assessment. How the hell do you explain giving up 12 runs, fielding errors and lapses, and lack of clutch hitting in the last 4 innings of the game……..after shutting out and playing good defense for the first 5 innings of the game? How the hell do you explain that?
Also, the Padres didnt just “magically” become the 1927 Yankees. We gave them plenty of help. Errors, passed balls, missed cutting off a throw, non catches, throwing to the wrong base……….just about everything that could go wrong in the last 4 inning of the game……did.
Bobby Cox’s “Anybody can be beat, look at the Pirates, they beat the Phillies last night and almost beat the Philles tonight” comment just shows that he is always looking for excuses for HIS FAILURE to manage his team to victory. 5 weeks left in the season and the Braves played like it was a Spring Training game. I place the blame on the Manager’s doorstep. Tonight was an important game, given last night’s lackluster 12 inning loss.
monty
August 26th, 2009
11:52 pm
Again BC managing in the 6th like he has a 10 run lead and not just a 3 run one. Allowing KK to get in deep trouble before going to get him. Why not have the BP ready and say a walk and a hit or 2 hits in a row you go get him?
Kurdt Kobain
August 26th, 2009
11:53 pm
20 years later, and people still get outraged by Bobby’s postgame comments…
Kurdt Kobain
August 26th, 2009
11:54 pm
KK was absolutely cruising. Bobby had no reason to be worried.
And I can’t believe people are going to complain about him leaving KK in too long after the Mets game last week. Really? come on.
Supes
August 26th, 2009
11:55 pm
Nothing more sad than Bobby Cox trying to somehow use the results of the Phillies/Pirates games of yesterday and today as an example/excuse for the disaster that took place at the Ted the last 2 nights.
That’s why we are in need of new management. Someone who isn’t afraid to “rock the boat”.
monty
August 26th, 2009
11:55 pm
How many times each year do we see McCann jump the gun and try to tag the runner without having the ball secured? That crap is getting old. I love Brian but that stuff drives me crazy!
The A Bomb
August 26th, 2009
11:55 pm
Supes…
I just can’t understand how a playoff contender can draw so few fans, not give the home team ANY home field advantage and just take a laissez-faire attitude toward the home team that is (or now was) a contender. I thought Atlanta is a major market.
When I see 15,000 in mid-August that is pathetic. Home crowds do mean a difference especially in big games. These are big games regardless of who’s in town. And every game now means something.
I don’t understand it — never will. David Justice didn’t either.
And if it’s not funny, I’m really not trying — it’s my way to do the best I can to keep from being utterly disgusted with the in-house fan support.
Steve from OH
August 26th, 2009
11:55 pm
20 years later, and people still get outraged by Bobby’s postgame comments
People actually take Bobby’s postgame comments seriously? Seriously?
Mixxo
August 26th, 2009
11:55 pm
Tomorrow’s (and those from now on) game are going to be interesting.
We’ll see how tonight’s post-game comments wear anyway.
Dumbfound
August 26th, 2009
11:56 pm
Liberty Media, Your investment is not neting you a profit ! In the real world, What do most business do about that ?! You own the team, Now start firing !!!!!!!!!!!!
Mixxo
August 26th, 2009
11:56 pm
games….
N8
August 26th, 2009
11:56 pm
At this point, as the veteran of the team, I understand why Chipper chimes in, and why the media would go to him for questions.
But why? What does his opinion matter at this point. If Chipper was Chipper “like” the Braves would have a 5 game lead in the WC standings.
This offense is sputtering for two reasons. Chipper Jones, in the middle of the most meaningful games in the past 4 years (if you are of the belief that games late in the year are more important than in April – I don’t), has gone AWOL.
The second reason being, that his HOF manager continues to bat him in the 3-hole, at risk of not hurting his feelings. Never mind the outcome of the game or season. Make sure the “face” of the franchise is happy.
Hope he’s happy. If Chipper was a team guy, he’d suggest that Bobby put somebody else there right now, and if Bobby had a set, he wouldn’t need Chipper to volunteer to move elsewhere in the order.
We’ll just let the overall lack of team speed and defense fade off into the night, and forget that those are issues.
Necromancer
August 26th, 2009
11:57 pm
Remember when Jerry Jones came into Dallas and fired the legendary Tom Landry who had been there, like, forever?
I think it’s going to take a new owner for the Braves who has the testicular fortitude to show Cox the door.
Don’t get me wrong…Cox did great things while he was here..well, mostly great things….but, it’s time for him to step down..or else be asked to leave.
monty
August 26th, 2009
11:57 pm
KK was cruising, Javier was cruising, Lowe was cruising. THats the problem they lose it in one inning and BC acts like he’s never seen it happen before.
Wayne in Utah
August 26th, 2009
11:57 pm
Supes
Damn. Exactly what has the Dunce said that makes some sense, that hasn’t been said a thousand times by 25 other bloggers. At least half of his bull is second guessing. He is darned good at that.
As for the manager, when are you folks going to understand that Bobby stays until HE is ready to go. If that is this winter, it will be because it is HIS decision. If you really think FW can or will fire him, you are just showing your lack of Braves org knowledge.
If FW fires Bobby Cox, I promise I will apologize to ALL on the blog for my stupidity, and then happily depart the blog, never to show my shamed face again.
Supes
August 26th, 2009
11:57 pm
Wayne in Utah,
without a doubt the biggest need in the minors, the draft, player development is a top tier 3B prospect to take over in 2-3 years time for an aging Chipper Jones.
since the Braves currently do not have that guy in their system, maybe through a trade, maybe through the draft next year, maybe someone emerges?
however, currently…on the major league roster and in the minors…there is nobody to speak of.
don’t even bring up Hicks…guy looks like a bust.
Kurdt Kobain
August 26th, 2009
11:58 pm
He said the same thing yesterday. And he’ll say the same thing tomorrow. I barely even read what he says. No matter how upset he is, and we all know he has a temper, he’s never going to vent to the media. Never has, never will.
Paul Lentz
August 26th, 2009
11:59 pm
Also, I have to disagree with Chipper’s “we battled last night” comment. 1 run against this Padres team in 12 innings? A number of opportunities with the bases loaded and nothing to show for it.
“Position players didnt lose focus tonight”? Really? Did you forget about Escobar throwing the ball to the wrong base in the first inning? Or what about Matt Diaz taking the wrong path on that ball he should have caught in the 5th inning, before the inning got out of hand? Or what about Adam LaRoche not cutting the ball off on Gwynn’s hit when Gwynn took off for second? The runner on third was held up. What about McCann’s inability to hold onto Church’s amazing throw to home, that allowed 2 runs to score? Or McCann’s passed balls? Or Prado’s Kelly Johnson imitation of bobbling a grounder?
I can see how you feel that the position players “didnt lose focus”. My bad.