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ccrider
August 26th, 2009
2:55 pm
WOW DOB; The title Says it all
Nova Scotia Steve
August 26th, 2009
2:59 pm
Let’s call this one “A wake up call” blog.
My left cheek stings…8O
Face cheek that is
Brandon from Warner Robins
August 26th, 2009
2:59 pm
Good Song Choice Today DOB.
CaliChopper
August 26th, 2009
3:00 pm
Maybe we shoulda traded Chipper for Roachy and kept Kotch
Original Jon
August 26th, 2009
3:00 pm
I just don’t like the fake, gigantic implants, tanning bed girls. jeffrey d
So basically, you like flat chested vampires.
yellerjacket
August 26th, 2009
3:00 pm
I could’ve been first but I waited. For some reason I figured it meant more to others…silly gooses.
yellerjacket
August 26th, 2009
3:01 pm
It looks like the only other sweep chances might be Cincy or Houston. I love the Braves and 2010 is going to be awesome, but there is too much ground to make up against two teams that are too hot.
PWHjort
August 26th, 2009
3:03 pm
Dang, I had a nice rant that got cut off by the old blog. Oh well.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 26th, 2009
3:04 pm
Sorry folks…I’m not ready to accept Atlanta Braves 2010 just yet…
Still games to be played…When our elimination number is up…then maybe but can’t do it now.
NO MORE BOBBY
August 26th, 2009
3:04 pm
Will the real K.K. stand up?
When he is on, he looks great and makes Wren look like a genius.
When he is off, I bet some of those kids in that picture could go yard on him.
yellerjacket
August 26th, 2009
3:04 pm
I’d like to see Chipper and Anderson get hot and push their averages up over .300 by season’s end, though.
ccrider
August 26th, 2009
3:04 pm
Dave: Following the Braves is like being married to a woman with a split personality. I can hit / I can’t hit. I can play heady ball/ I can forget how many outs there are. I am a hall of famer/ I studied hitting at the Rafael Belliard school of “Hard Knocks”, I am a Hall of Fame manager/ I like to leave my struggling staters in until they give up 8 runs or the lead.
Random
August 26th, 2009
3:05 pm
DOB (August 26th, 2009 1:44 pm): “The Three Degrees’ “When Will I See You Again.” Damn, what a great song.”
You’re joking, right?
What’s next? Paul Anka’s “You’re Having My Baby”?
(Geez, what a sap.)
yellerjacket
August 26th, 2009
3:05 pm
Let’s vote. Next Braves manager:
1. Fredi Gonzalez
2. Terry Pendleton
3. John Smoltz
4. Don Baylor
5. Someone else
Shaun
August 26th, 2009
3:06 pm
Lack of effort or not giving a [blank] is about the same thing to me. I say we had this last night because no one was up on the top step of the dugout supporting each other when the winning run is 90 feet away/up to bat. This happened for at least 3 innings I saw because SS does such a good job of entire dugout shots.
So standing on the stop step of the dugout equals effort on a baseball field? Why don’t we look at every team’s games and see if there is a correlation between standing on the top step of the dugout and winning? See how that sounds when you look at it rationally?
cphizzle
August 26th, 2009
3:07 pm
i betcha its tp
Marc in FL
August 26th, 2009
3:07 pm
Dude that bunt last night made me tired. Seriously, I was wide awake after moving half my house, was ready to sit down with a beer and watch a Braves’ comeback, and then after some heroics from B-Mac, Anderson, and Laroche, I had to watch Diaz and his horrid attempt at a base-hit bunt. I turned the TV off and went to be bed. Ballgame as some of the students here on the blog would say. Ballgame, go to sleep and forget about it.
semiballcoach
August 26th, 2009
3:08 pm
i vote for someone else
CaliChopper
August 26th, 2009
3:08 pm
Bobby ain’t going no where till either he’s ready to go or theres new owners and upper managment put in place
yellerjacket
August 26th, 2009
3:09 pm
you’re probably right, phizzle
Hakuna Matata
August 26th, 2009
3:09 pm
yellerjacket,
I think you should switch Terry Pendleton with Eddie Perez..
Paul Lentz
August 26th, 2009
3:09 pm
Shaun…………in theory, winning 2 of 3 is playing good baseball. However, the problem with having the “2 of 3″ mentality is that you’ve already prepared yourself to lose one game in the series. That leaves the other 2 games. Well, if the other team knows that they are going to be “given” one game of a series against the Braves…..then all they need to do is win one of the remaining 2 in order for them to take “2 of 3″ themselves.
Do you really think that the Rockies went into their 4 game series with the Giants, being happy with a 4 game split (particularly after they lost game 1 on Friday)? Hell no. They promptly went out and won the last 3 games of the series. On Saturday, there were behind 6-1 in the bottom of the 6th……came back and won. On Sunday, they were behind Linecum 2-0 going into the 6th…..came back and won. On Monday, they were behind by 3 runs going into the bottom of the 14th inning……….came back and won.
Now if that isnt playing with a “sense of urgency”…….I dont know what is.
Also, I dont see this Rockies team being happy with only taking 2 of 3 against the Dodgers either. They see this series as an opportunity to catch the Dodgers and tie them for first place by sweeping them. It’s called TAKING ADVANTAGE OF YOUR HEAD TO HEAD MATCH-UPS within your division.
oldschool
August 26th, 2009
3:09 pm
Speaking of the manager situation,has B.C been offered the job for next year or has he definately said that he’s retiring after this year
submariner
August 26th, 2009
3:10 pm
Outstanding Starting Pitching…..Decent Bullpen…..Seriously retarded offense! Garret Anderson….bottom of the ninth….runners in scoring position….Swing the damn bat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You get paid to drive in runs, not look for a walk!
yellerjacket
August 26th, 2009
3:10 pm
chopper, I hear you. Didn’t necessarily mean for 2010, but I’m keeping my fingers crossed for BC being ready to go in the next 2-3
Paul Lentz
August 26th, 2009
3:11 pm
Shaun………your 2:51pm posting is missing the point. As good as the Rockies have been playing…….this Braves team should not be 5 1/2 games out of the Wild Card. Our starting pitching is the ace in the hole.
I’m saying that it’s the mentality of the offense that is ok with a few good productive nights…..only to slack off like they did last night. Or when they “quit” hitting when they went up 4-0 and had Oliver Perez on the ropes last Tuesday night. Falling behind 8-4 with 5 more cracks at the Mets pitching should not have been the end of the world.
For whatever reason, the Braves offense isnt mentally ready to play every game like it is a MUST WIN. Last night is a perfect example of that.
yellerjacket
August 26th, 2009
3:11 pm
matada, i think bradley or schultz or someone wrote earlier this year that perez has been the clubhouse clown for so long that it would be hard for the braves to take him seriously. That being said, he deserves a shot somewhere though, just not sure it will be the braves.
Marc in FL
August 26th, 2009
3:12 pm
submariner,
Swinging at ball 4 is always worse than taking it. Just some insider baseball for ya!
Hillbilly
August 26th, 2009
3:12 pm
Besides, everyone knows southern women have them all beat, the stereotypical jokes don’t apply to us. But seriously, I’ve been all over the US, only a handful of states I haven’t been to and I assure you, there are ugly, fat, stupid, redneck and toothless souls in all of them.
Ain’t that the damned truth. I was obviously exaggerating with the whole tar-paper shack thing, but I do get smart-ass comments all the time about certain things.
One dude asked me one time if I owned a truck, and I told him “yes, of course I do.” He said “Really, I thought you guys only rode ATVs. I wanted to smack him, because he was being semi-serious.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 26th, 2009
3:13 pm
I would love to see Eddie Perez managing this team somewhere down the road.
Tomahawkin
August 26th, 2009
3:13 pm
No More Bobby
KK hasn’t Been The Problem…It’s the AWFense
Seriously I would bank on KK, Double J and Vazquez being in the top 10 in the league as far as fewest run support per start for any starter that has pitched over 100 innings…
Time for the AWfense to wake up their backs are at the wall, not against the wall
Jeff321
August 26th, 2009
3:14 pm
When ya couple Chipper’s paltry stats since June 10th with his team leading errors total.. What do ya get?
David..(Athens, AL)
August 26th, 2009
3:15 pm
getting to know your Braves featured Anderson …. I found it to be very informative … really is a nice guy … like his old school of always catching the ball with two hands ( i know he has to get to the ball first) … but he is fundamental sound … and is friendly!!
submariner
August 26th, 2009
3:16 pm
Marc, not when your getting paid 2 million dollars in my book. His first pitch was right down the pipe and he didn’t even offer at it. If your the number eight or nine batter, I’ll give it to ya, but this guy is in the heart of the order!!
Brandon from Warner Robins
August 26th, 2009
3:16 pm
If Eddie Perez were to become manager, who make up his staff?
Original Jon
August 26th, 2009
3:16 pm
submariner, really, you wished Garrett would have swung the bat? Whats wrong with getting on base when you can?
Canadian Brave
August 26th, 2009
3:17 pm
Perhaps now is the time to sit Chipper for a spell. With Prado back in the line-up and the return of Church and GA to the outfield. I would rather he rested now before we get into it with the Phillies and Marlins again. Season isn’t dead yet but it sure is crunch time!!
singndablues
August 26th, 2009
3:17 pm
Teams that make it to the playoffs win tight games like the one last night. That’s why we probably won’t make it this year. We just don’t have enough clutch plays to get us over the hump. Chipper slumping at this moment could not be worse timing for this team. His slump has probably cost us several games if not more in the standings.
VaBraveFan
August 26th, 2009
3:17 pm
I’d like to see Eddie Perez or Ned Yost get the Manager position
Paul Lentz
August 26th, 2009
3:18 pm
David O’Brien………the reason why Garret Anderson would have been out by 30 feet if he tried to score was because not only was he loafing around the bases…..but instead of looking at the 3rd base coach, he looked back and slowed down when he rounded second to see if the right fielder caught the ball.
If Vazquez was busting his tail upon contact and ran the bases like he was capable of, then I feel that he scores on that hit by LaRoche.
We will never know for sure. However, it was a GIVEN that Garret was in no shape to score on any type of double. By not making a move to pinch run for Garret, Bobby Cox did not put the Braves in the best possible position to win the game in that 9th inning.
Also, you forget that when Garret drew the walk, there was only 1 out. You have to pinch run for Garret to help prevent the double play in that situation. Escobar struck out, making the double play a moot point. However if Laroche had hit a gapper to the wall (which he is capable of doing), Garret still does not score.
Tomahawkin
August 26th, 2009
3:18 pm
Marc From FL
I didn’t call “Game Over” until I saw all those wasted chances during the late innings…I was at a bar but I called “Game Over” Nontheless
While I was squeezing my phone in my hand after watching us waste so many chances…Then After we lost I lost It and had a B.F. that I’m just recovering from…
Original Jon
August 26th, 2009
3:19 pm
Now is as good a time as any to give Chipper a few days off. Let Martin play 3rd, put Infante at second and if Church is ready, put him in center.
submariner
August 26th, 2009
3:19 pm
Bottom of the ninth and a chance to win the game. Instead of prolonging the game and taxing an already over taxed bullpen? Last time I checked, you play to win. Especially at home.
the real Andy
August 26th, 2009
3:20 pm
leaving 8 men on in the 8th-10th was brutal.
Diaz has been hitting everything so hard lately, he should have known his bunt would be the same way. just kidding. while i was shocked and a little disappointed that he didn’t swing away, I can’t blame him.
Original Jon
August 26th, 2009
3:21 pm
Last I checked, you win by NOT making outs, which Garrett did splendidly.
submariner
August 26th, 2009
3:22 pm
No you win by scoring more runs than the other team.
PWHjort
August 26th, 2009
3:23 pm
yellerjacket,
I vote Eddie Perez as well. Glenn Hubbard bench coach.
submariner
August 26th, 2009
3:24 pm
Anderson had to know that the righty, lefty match up was better than Bell facing Escobar. He had to make it happen, which he didn’t, splendidly.
Original Jon
August 26th, 2009
3:24 pm
That is true also, but you cannot score by making outs, unless its a sac fly.
Bama Aaron
August 26th, 2009
3:25 pm
the offense is pathetic and Chipper is one of the top reasons. honestly I don’t care for the “I’m tired” excuse. How long have you been playing ball? So you should know how long the season is and properly prepare your butt to play most of the games. Only person on that team that should be suffering fatigue is McCann and I’m not sure how you get around that.
Also what’s up with the broadcast cameramen last night? Were the two overly tanned girls in blue the only decent looking girls in the house? It seemed like they came back to them every half inning.
Original Jon
August 26th, 2009
3:25 pm
Why are you crucifying Garrett for actually getting on base? Would you have been happy if he just grounded out or struck out?
David..(Athens, AL)
August 26th, 2009
3:26 pm
top three hitters … 0 for 16 … that contributed greatly to the loss …
Tomahawkin
August 26th, 2009
3:26 pm
If Eddie Perez as Manager… in 2012 and beyond
Brian Jordan would be 3rd base coach, Ned Yost Bench Coach…Chipper as hitting coach Maddux as Pitching coach, among others…
But I’m living fantasies in that post so it is not relevant…
yellerjacket
August 26th, 2009
3:26 pm
PWH, Excellent choices. Leave Snitker on 3B and tell Chino to not let the screen door hit him in the fanny on the way out.
faninva
August 26th, 2009
3:27 pm
VaBraveFan -
agreed on the poll. How are things in Portsmouth today?
ncscoots
August 26th, 2009
3:27 pm
I’m starting to get that little tingly feeling. Shaun and Dentz arguing a point, LOL.
Dentz can throw all the long-winded and obfuscating “you’re missing the point” posts he wants, Shaun can take it…and come right back with the same post and point made 20 times earlier, LOL. This could be one for the ages, folks; toe-to-toe, and so forth. We rest best move aside.
Except for the propping props-givers and their respective props-ees, natch. Props to them.
Tomas
August 26th, 2009
3:27 pm
Rest chipper for a couple of days, let him get back when he is not tired, because the reality is, right now he is a hole in the lineup. Let either Kelly, Prado, or Infante on those 2 positions today.
fleming
August 26th, 2009
3:28 pm
Paul, since the Rockies wouldn’t let San Diego hold them to only 1 run, then I guess the May 5 Pads 2-1 victory and the July 18 3-1 Pads victory should be stricken from the record books like a Bobby Bowden win.
yellerjacket
August 26th, 2009
3:28 pm
I don’t know, Brian Jordan and Ron Gant are such articulate, interesting announcers, I’d hate to lose one to the coaching staff… (insert sarcastic text here)
Brian
August 26th, 2009
3:28 pm
oldschool, Cox, like all Braves coaches, is on a one-year contract every year. Cox will be here as long as he wants to keep renewing that one-year contract. There’s been no indication he won’t be the manager next year.
yellerjacket
August 26th, 2009
3:30 pm
MARK LEMKE FOR COACH IN 2011!!! What, he’s the Lemmer. What?
Brian
August 26th, 2009
3:30 pm
submariner, you would have had Anderson try to swing and hit pitches out of the strike zone rather than take a walk? Yeah, there’s a good strategy.
JaxBravesFan
August 26th, 2009
3:30 pm
YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!
VaBraveFan
August 26th, 2009
3:30 pm
faninva
the usual lol
i never caught were you said you live
Bobby Coccyx
August 26th, 2009
3:31 pm
What about Ned Yost?
Country Boy
August 26th, 2009
3:31 pm
So DOB how’s that trade you whined for all winter looking now ???
braves4ever
August 26th, 2009
3:32 pm
Paul Lentz 3:18 , I totally agree!
Paul Lentz
August 26th, 2009
3:32 pm
Tomas………….I agree with your 3:27pm posting. If Chipper really needs a couple of days off, this is the series to do it. If we cant be the Padres the next 2 games without Chipper, then we do not deserve to make the play-offs anyway.
If giving Chipper a few days off will help him be ready for the Philly series this weekend, then I’d support Bobby resting him the next 2 games.
yellerjacket
August 26th, 2009
3:32 pm
I think Yost and Perez are good managers. You have to give some consideration to Fredi Gonzalez. He has done good things with a payroll that is pretty crappy.
Smart Jay
August 26th, 2009
3:33 pm
Re: Last night – has anyone suggested that perhaps, as dominating as he was, and having only thrown 10 pitches, maybe Soriano could go another inning, before settling in on Medlen for the long haul?
yellerjacket
August 26th, 2009
3:33 pm
i meant would be good managers
CrimeDog
August 26th, 2009
3:35 pm
Mmmmk. Not addressing this at anyone in particular *ahem*…
But “playoffs” is one word. Just one. No hyphens. No ampersands. No elipses. Playoffs. This has been a public service announcement.
submariner
August 26th, 2009
3:35 pm
Original Jon…I’d rather have a guy go up there, be aggressive and make something happen, then have them cop out and leave it up to the next guy. He’s a veteran, a guy whose been around, a guy who was brought here to provide offense, a guy who is supposed to be a leader and drive in runs! YES, I’d rather him go up there and ground out then keep his bat on his shoulder and get walked. It’s called leadership by example. Earn the money you wer given by doing what you were paid to do! Again, he looked right at the first pitch down the center of the plate and didn’t even look like he wanted to hit it! He had to know that Bell needed to get ahead. He’d just walked McCann! How hard is it?
Brian
August 26th, 2009
3:36 pm
I think Fredi Gonzalez is doing a very good job, but let’s not just blow the roster off as a “crappy payroll”. He’s got a good collection of talent to work with…they just haven’t hit free agency yet so they don’t make any money. As soon as they do, they’re gone. Give credit to the Marlins’ scouts and development people…they always have great young talent.
Anders
August 26th, 2009
3:36 pm
Well it’s official. With Johan Santana and JJ Putz going on the DL yesterday the Mets officially have more guys on the DL than showed up for the Braves WC drive game last night.
Nice job Atlanta. And you guys complain that the national outlets ignore the Braves? Apparently their own fans do.
bill
August 26th, 2009
3:36 pm
I say in about another week or so lets start thinking about 2010. Cannot believe we are still close especially with the recent injuries. Our offense is really bad if you think about it. Jason Schmitd no hit us for 5 innings throwing 80 mph and the Braves had the same batting approach last night, not working the count and swinging for the fences. It seems like about every 10 days they have a game like this. Good comments about the dugout thing. I saw little or no emotion from any one but that is Bobby ball and everyone is happy (so they say). This has got to be the most boring Braves team in the last 10 years. Hopefully the hitters will snap out of it tonight.
E Perez is my vote for manager next year.
Tomahawkin
August 26th, 2009
3:36 pm
And Hell, Bring back Leo Mazzone…
It really befuddles me that he didn’t get hired on elsewhere other than Baltimore…He must have declined Managing AAA teams or being the Pitching coach…
nemov
August 26th, 2009
3:38 pm
I think at the beginning of this 15 game stretch that ends in two games DOB said the Braves needed to go 11-4. I’ve been tracking that and hoping with a sweep we would make that mark. Unfortuantly it’s not going to happen. Two losses to the Phillies. The Cox/Lowe 8 run meltdown against the Mets. A loss to the Fish, and a loss to the Padres. Good teams lose games from time to time, but the Braves are average. The team just doesn’t hit well enough to win more than half the games.
The best we can hope for in that 15 game stretch now is a 10-5 record.
Brian
August 26th, 2009
3:38 pm
“YES, I’d rather him go up there and ground out then keep his bat on his shoulder and get walked”
This is perhaps the stupidest statement in the history of baseball commentary.
Tomahawkin
August 26th, 2009
3:38 pm
YellerJacket
The Marlins may have a crappy payroll but they have 2 things the braves don’t have. That is Speed and Heart…
Madre Padre
August 26th, 2009
3:38 pm
it’s going to take another hit tonight. Go Daddys!
yellerjacket
August 26th, 2009
3:39 pm
Brian, well said. I didn’t so much mean the players themselves, as the total payroll number the team has to work with.
Paul Lentz
August 26th, 2009
3:39 pm
fleming……..3:28pm. This Padres team is different than the Padres team in early May, when they beat the Rockies 2-1. The Rockies were in the midst of starting the season 18-28. That was a different Rockies team as well. Also, that game was played in San Diego, not Colorado.
Oh, and the July 18th game you referred to was also played in San Diego.
Again, my question is: Do any of you think the Rockies would let THIS PADRES TEAM come INTO THEIR HOUSE (Coors field, not Petco Field) and hold them to 1 run in 12 innings?
Your 3:28pm posting did NOTHING to answer that question. You’ve got to do better than that to prove me wrong.
ncscoots
August 26th, 2009
3:40 pm
This is perhaps the stupidest statement in the history of baseball commentary.
Nah. I can think of a dozen more worthy of the characterization, in this season alone, on this blog alone, LOL.
Paul Lentz
August 26th, 2009
3:41 pm
braves4ever……thanks for the 3:32pm props. It’s nice to see someone post who “actually” watch what transpired that 9th inning.
submariner
August 26th, 2009
3:41 pm
Situation called for it dude….learn something about the game.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 26th, 2009
3:41 pm
Smart Jay -
I also thought for a little bit that Soriano could have gone another inning.
chc4
August 26th, 2009
3:41 pm
This team isn’t making the playoffs. Dreamers like Leo Mazzone on 680 can keep trying to convince themselves otherwise but doesn’t change the facts. This team simply isn’t good enough.
faninva
August 26th, 2009
3:41 pm
VaBraveFan -
Guess you didn’t catch my post. Fredericksburg. Did you ever go to Richmond to see the r-braves? still can’t believe they’re gone.
wjones
August 26th, 2009
3:42 pm
” Leave Snitker on 3B ”
Mr. Stop-and-look-both-ways-before-crossing? No, thank you. Maybe he fits somewhere else, but it KILLS me to see how many times we stop the runner from second at third on a single!
fleming
August 26th, 2009
3:42 pm
Paul Lentz
This Padres team is different than the Padres team in early May, when they beat the Rockies 2-1
Oh! Sorry about that. Didn’t know that this new Padres team moved into town and forced the other team out.
yellerjacket
August 26th, 2009
3:42 pm
That was cold, Tomahawkin. Speed, I agree with, but heart? Other than Chipper and GA I think we have a group of passionate players. Did anyone see Jim Tracy celebrating with his team when the Rockies beat San Fran on that walk-off grand slam the other night? BC would barely crack a smile if that happened. Maybe we need some managerial heart.
Shaun
August 26th, 2009
3:42 pm
Paul Lentz, when has Bobby Cox ever said the Braves should try to only win 2 of 3? As far as “being happy” about winning 2 of 4, I don’t think anyone is happy about any loss. I think the mentality of every team in the game is to try to win every game. Obviously there are going to be times over the course of a season when good players have to rest or when it’s not worth diving into the stands or running into a wall for one out. But there is too much at stake for players to try to win every night. Accepting 2 wins out of 3 games and trying to win 2 of 3 are different.
This is the lame argument a lot of talking heads try to make. “The so-and-sos should concentrate on the Wild Card because the division is out of reach.” Well, I firmly believe that is never the mentality of any team or player or manager. They try to win every game.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 26th, 2009
3:43 pm
680 rippin Greg Norton…
submariner
August 26th, 2009
3:43 pm
It’s the bottom of the ninth, you need to win the game, runner in scoring position, the guy just walked the previous batter, you’re gonna get a fastball, the game was tied..why would you not swing the bat?
Brian
August 26th, 2009
3:44 pm
Thanks, yellerjacket. I should have phrased my statement a little better. What I meant to say (not just to you, but in general), was that we should be careful not to equate a low payroll with a lack of talent a manager has to work with. Usually there’s a strong correlation between payroll and talent, but the Marlins are always somewhat of an exception. So are the Mets. Had to get that in.
submariner
August 26th, 2009
3:44 pm
In case you forgot, Braves lost the game.
wjones
August 26th, 2009
3:45 pm
“The Marlins may have a crappy payroll but they have 2 things the braves don’t have. That is Speed and Heart…”
Yeah, you gotta have Heart. Miles and miles and miles of Heart.
On the other hand, Speed will get you a 50-day suspension, if you test positive.
yellerjacket
August 26th, 2009
3:45 pm
agreed
Brian
August 26th, 2009
3:45 pm
submariner, so the situation last night called for a groundout? That’s odd…