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chilidog75

August 25th, 2009
4:00 pm

JJ isn’t as good as he’s perceived to be, but he’s also not as good as he’s going to be.
At 23 and already able to pitch like this (not just throw, but pitch), he could be unbelievable by the time he’s 27 or 28.

Jurrjens4NLCY

August 25th, 2009
4:01 pm

Will do JJ. Um, but he does have to finish his senior year of high school so we might have to put this off for a year or so. Unless you want to go to Ghettocreek, of course.

You know what? I am sooo utterly disgusted with the way you handled things, I’m calling it off, I guess we’ll both have to dies in our respective states! Thanks to you and your businessmanship!

Steve from OH

August 25th, 2009
4:01 pm

Latos didn’t lose a “t” in a boating accident. He hid one in Laos.

(I’ll be here all week, folks).

Vanessa

August 25th, 2009
4:03 pm

DOB is such a music snob. You can’t deny Mariah’s talent just because you don’t like that type of music.

Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)

August 25th, 2009
4:03 pm

Apologists,

I’d appreciate it if you’d lay off the caps lock, but I’ll agree that at this point, every loss hurts. Easier being the chased than the chaser, if you know what I mean.

Wasn’t that long ago that the typical Braves team would cruise into May or early June and then play something like .800 ball for three months. By the time Labor Day arrived, they’d be so far in front that they were worried about being sharp for the playoffs. Man, I miss those days.

Soph

August 25th, 2009
4:05 pm

You know what? I am sooo utterly disgusted with the way you handled things, I’m calling it off, I guess we’ll both have to dies in our respective states! Thanks to you and your businessmanship!

Hey, hey I won’t stand for you talking about me in that manner! I was offering you options man, options. I’m taking my offer off of the table then. Have a nice life in Illinois buddy.

Hillbilly

August 25th, 2009
4:05 pm

DOB,

If the part about being who he was couldn’t help Tom get loose, what’s a Mat without a “t” gonna get? Totally screwed while chicken-wing puke eats the candy-apple red off his corvette.

Harold

August 25th, 2009
4:06 pm

McFann – If you are interested, the Ruby throated Hummingbirds are starting to migrate back south. It a very good time to watch them come to feeders with sugar water until early Oct. They are an interesting bird. If you have any questions, go to Hummingbird.net.

njbraves

August 25th, 2009
4:06 pm

Cox apologists……Do you feel the Braves should sweep the Padres if they are serious about making the playoffs??

Brandon from Warner Robins

August 25th, 2009
4:06 pm

I see that Kate Beckinsale made an appearance on the ole blog last night :)
Go Bravos!

Efrim

August 25th, 2009
4:07 pm

Steve from OH, Jurrjens has a 35/11 K/BB ratio in 42 innings since the all star break.

At 23 and already able to pitch like this (not just throw, but pitch), he could be unbelievable by the time he’s 27 or 28.

Not always. Some pitchers aren’t as projectable and therefore never get that much better. Or at least their stuff doesn’t get much better.

Soph

August 25th, 2009
4:07 pm

lol njbraves, don’t get him/her started.

Daslied

August 25th, 2009
4:08 pm

Steve – JJ stats

Since June 5th (1st June start)
7.27 K/9
3.19 BB/9

Since ASB
7.5 K/9
2.36 BB/9

Think this is all correct…

Steve from OH

August 25th, 2009
4:09 pm

7.5 K/9 since the break, 2.3 BB/9? That’s a lot better. I thought he’d been striking out more batters lately…

Chop Chop

August 25th, 2009
4:10 pm

I figure that Jurrjens will be this good until his arm gets mangled. Same goes for Hanson. Only problem is that both guys will mangle their arms in 2010 and never be any good again. I can’t wait.

Steve from OH

August 25th, 2009
4:10 pm

Thanks for the stats as well, Daslied!

Brandon from Warner Robins

August 25th, 2009
4:11 pm

According to Mark Bowman, GA and Prado should be back in the lineup tonight.

Efrim

August 25th, 2009
4:11 pm

Since June 5th (1st June start)
7.27 K/9
3.19 BB/9

That’s a solid K rate to go with a pretty good home runs allowed.

Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)

August 25th, 2009
4:12 pm

Mets say –

Santana … bone chips … scope … back next year.

We’ll see. You never know what the docs will find when they get in there.

McFann ;Ô;

August 25th, 2009
4:13 pm

Harold

Thanks! We have a few of them around our house right now. They’re SO cute.

Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)

August 25th, 2009
4:14 pm

I do believe the Mets’ ace may now be Tim (almost DFA’d) Redding. Yikes.

Daslied

August 25th, 2009
4:16 pm

JJ’s K rate is a little skewed. Since the ASB, he’s had 1 9K game, 2 6K games, 3 5K games and TWO 1K games. Weird…

DAP

August 25th, 2009
4:16 pm

what exactly makes Jurjjens “not as good as he is perceived to be”?

Efrim

August 25th, 2009
4:21 pm

what exactly makes Jurjjens “not as good as he is perceived to be”?

Summing it up: K/9, BB/9, and hits allowed. So his ERA might be kind of fluky, I guess.

Lew

August 25th, 2009
4:21 pm

Bring Up Conrad-”the ability to recognize the psychological subtleties apparent when a player shows up and plays reasonably well.”

Uh Yeah. OK. And how many sessions did you have with Brooks during his two week stay in ATlanta?

Bay Area Steve

August 25th, 2009
4:21 pm

Braveheart,

You may be the best this board’s got (can’t say where; think DOB ranking bands), but I can’t get past your anything-goes-between-a-man-and-his-dogs post. Care to explain?

And notice Lentz, I didn’t use “posting.” Where before I wanted to strangle you with quotation marks, now I’d like to choke you with the word “posting.” Just FYI.

JBoog1285

August 25th, 2009
4:22 pm

Lineup pending BP:

1. Infante
2. Prado
3. Chipper
4. Mac
5. GA
6. Escobar
7. LaRoche
8. Diaz

abwright

August 25th, 2009
4:23 pm

So, “Madre Padre” just confirms that all of these rhyming opponent “fans” on the blog are really the same person. Seriously, there aren’t any Padres fans anymore.

DAP

August 25th, 2009
4:23 pm

efrim, 6.5 k/9 and 2BB/9 isnt good? the BAA is a little higher than id like it to be, but .249 isnt horrible…especially when your not giving up a ton of homers.

McFann ;Ô;

August 25th, 2009
4:24 pm

Thanks, JBoog. Of course Adam gets pushed down to #7 now. :roll:

Daslied

August 25th, 2009
4:27 pm

abwright – Kind of sad we don’t play either Sox team again. Would like to see what he/she came up with.

Nova Scotia Steve

August 25th, 2009
4:29 pm

Is JBoog1285…Actually Boog?

wjones

August 25th, 2009
4:29 pm

“abwright – Kind of sad we don’t play either Sox team again. Would like to see what he/she came up with.”

We might…

Efrim

August 25th, 2009
4:31 pm

efrim, 6.5 k/9 and 2BB/9 isnt good? the BAA is a little higher than id like it to be, but .249 isnt horrible…especially when your not giving up a ton of homers.

I think his career BB/9 is 3.3 and his K/9 is 6.4. I think that K/9 is above average, but probably only slightly. Hey, I think he’s really good. Keeps the ball in the ballpark, although he doesn’t increase a ton of grounders. A very good starter.

Daslied

August 25th, 2009
4:31 pm

wjones – great point! I forgot my optimism for a minute.

Daslied

August 25th, 2009
4:34 pm

It doesn’t seem like we hear very much (outside of the fanbase) about Jurrjens, and I guess it’s because he’s not that exciting. Not a fireballer, not emotional, not a cheerleader. But I think that’s why the future is bright for him – the dude knows how to pitch, and at an incredibly young age.

McFann ;Ô;

August 25th, 2009
4:35 pm

Nova Scotia Steve

Hmm…dunno. Was kinda wondering that myself since he mentions the Blog frequently…

McFann ;Ô;

August 25th, 2009
4:36 pm

I mean, Boog mentions this Blog frequently…

DAP

August 25th, 2009
4:40 pm

efrim, ive got his career walk rate UNDER 2BB/9. the stuff i cited above are his numbers this year…2nd full season in the majors at age 23. im just trying to figure out why people are saying he isnt as good as he is perceived to be. it looks like to me he is already a top of the rotation starter and getting better.

JBoog1285

August 25th, 2009
4:40 pm

Nope, not Sciambi. Sorry fellas.

Heath

August 25th, 2009
4:42 pm

Brandon from Warner Robins

August 25th, 2009
4:06 pm

I see that Kate Beckinsale made an appearance on the ole blog last night
Go Bravos!

Yes she did!!! I couldn’t resist. :)

McFann ;Ô;

August 25th, 2009
4:43 pm

JBoog Nope, not Sciambi.

Dangit…

I wonder...

August 25th, 2009
4:44 pm

Why is it that people mistake supple breasts, a nice ass, and promicuity for a good voice?

nolie

August 25th, 2009
4:45 pm

Conrad, as a reward for a job well done in his short stay here.

Canizares, to spell LaRoche and provide another RH bat.

Blanco, to pinch-run, not much else.

Sammons, everybody needs a 3rd catcher. Can more easily run for McCann late.

B. Jones & Barton, depth for injury-prone OF.

D. Hernandez, emergency fill-in for Yunel.

Carlyle & Valdez for bullpen depth. Maybe Reyes or Redmond as long men/mop-ups. (Mr Baseball)

I count at least 9 players there. The Braves are not gonna call up anywhere near 9 players in Sept if for no other reason than not to pay them all a month of MLB minimun pay.that’s ignoring the fact that they have never called up that many players even when more moneyed;and Bobby doesn’t want 9 players. I’d guess 5 max- a catcher for certain and maybe 2 position players and 2 pitchers. maybe not even that many. Fun to guess though.

Heath

August 25th, 2009
4:46 pm

I wonder…

August 25th, 2009
4:44 pm

Why is it that people mistake supple breasts, a nice ass, and promicuity for a good voice?

Mariah, I presume, is at the heart of this discussion…

Mixxo

August 25th, 2009
4:46 pm

JBoog1285 -

Switch #4 and #7……I’ll like that. ;)

Nova Scotia Steve

August 25th, 2009
4:48 pm

I wonder…

Not sure…But now I’m reconsidering my stance on Mariah…I guess supple breasts, a nice ass, and promicuity will do that to ya.

Mid Town Joe

August 25th, 2009
4:48 pm

Utterly Disgusted – Isn’t that the definition of a gay bull?

Brandon from Warner Robins

August 25th, 2009
4:49 pm

Heath- No objections from me :) Like I said on a previous blog, a nightly appearance from KB sure would be nice lol ;)

McFann ;Ô;

August 25th, 2009
4:49 pm

Mixxo

Haha…

Heck, that dang slump lasted so long I don’t care where BMac bats now as long as he gets hits!! (Preferred spot is still fifth, though, no mistake about it.)

Efrim

August 25th, 2009
4:49 pm

ive got his career walk rate UNDER 2BB/9.

DAP, are you talking about his K/BB ratio? That’s 1.95 for his career.

Mixxo

August 25th, 2009
4:51 pm

What a ballgame between Canada & Germany in the LLWS. Canada’s girl gets the go-ahead RBI’s.

14-13 Canada going to the bottom 6th.

nolie

August 25th, 2009
4:54 pm

Lets be honest, will anyone accept anything less than a sweep? (jurrjens)

Well I hope the Braves win at least one!

Brandon from Warner Robins

August 25th, 2009
4:54 pm

Yeah Mixxo its been an entertaining game thus far

wjones

August 25th, 2009
4:54 pm

You do have to add Hudson to the list, so add one to your tally.

Guesses? Doesn’t cost me anything.

1. Hudson
2. Carlyle
3. Sammons
4. McLouth
5. Conrad
6. Canizares
7. Diory
8. Another OF, either Blanco or Brandon Jones or Barton or HEYWARD

That would push us up to 33 players, about Bobby’s limit. If someone other than HEYWARD gets the call among the OF’s, then maybe HEYWARD moves up to help the AAA post season effort. This also might delay Canizares or Diory. Maybe Chris Burke gets the call instead of Diory, but then you have to DFA two players, because Hudson will make you DFA one also. And maybe Bobby adds one more pitcher, but I don’t know. That’s an awful lot of players, and the 33 would be 19 position guys and 14 pitchers. But this is fun; we’ll know for sure soon.

David O'Brien

August 25th, 2009
4:55 pm

Prado and Anderson both in lineup. Anderson said he feels fine, ready to go. Prado didn’t sound quite as confident before BP, said he wanted to see how it felt taking full-effort swings, infield, etc, trying to simulate energy level of game. He’s out there now taking infield.

Church said he’s playing tomorrow, feels fine hitting but still had a little twinge when he rotated making throw….

McLouth did some 75-percent effort sprints, felt good. Will go on rehab Friday, should be ready to play next week when eligible.

LINEUP
1. Infante, CF
2. Prado, 2B
3. Chipper
4. McCann
5. Anderson
6. Escobar
7. LaRoche
8. Diaz
9. Jurrjens

Heath

August 25th, 2009
4:56 pm

6-4-3

August 25th, 2009
4:57 pm

If everyone’s healthy, you know that’s not a bad lineup there. I guess Infante’s scheduled to play center.

Nova Scotia Steve

August 25th, 2009
4:58 pm

RE: LLWS

Go Canada!

Brandon from Warner Robins

August 25th, 2009
4:58 pm

Heath- Very Nice….. :)

ncscoots

August 25th, 2009
4:58 pm

Call lots and lots of two-seamers tonight, Brian, LOL. Fly balls may be just a touch adventuresome.

Mixxo

August 25th, 2009
4:59 pm

Brandon from Warner Robins –

Tough loss for Germany, but they hung tough anyway.

Everybody is going gaa-gaa over the California team. They beat two of the weakest teams in the tourney in Mass. & Ky. while we (WR) have played some of the toughest. Whatever huh. :P

Shamus Thacker

August 25th, 2009
4:59 pm

DOB: Mat Latos is 0-2 with a 14.09 ERA and .417 opponents’ average in his past two starts, after going 4-0 with a 2.10 ERA and .186 opponents’ average in his previous four.”"

What ya wanna bet we get the ace instead of the goat? That’s just the way things usually go for us with opposing pitchers.

McFann ;Ô;

August 25th, 2009
5:00 pm

Thanks for the lineup, Chief.

ncscoots

Haha! Yeah…

"You all are Cox apologists"

August 25th, 2009
5:01 pm

38 games left,

We sit 4 1/2 games behind the Rockies. Considering how the Rockies are playing, it may take at least 28-10 to get it done. If we go 28-10, we need the Rockies to go 23-14 (Rockies have 37 games left). We split the season series with the Rockies, keep that in mind. 28-10 anyone?? Or will it take 30-8? Who knows?

Wayne in Utah

August 25th, 2009
5:01 pm

Huddy, Carlyle, Sammons, Conrad and maybe ONE outfielder; probably Jones.

If Heyward were coming up, he woulda been here already.

Tiger Woods

August 25th, 2009
5:03 pm

I like this lineup. If Prado can stay healthy at second I can see us scoring a lot of runs this week. Hopefully Mac can keep up his hot hitting as of late and if Chip can get going after his week long I could almost say “absence”, we could be in for a good week. Come on boys lets go get that sweep! Chop Chop!!

wjones

August 25th, 2009
5:03 pm

We have one deep lineup! Roach seventh; Matty eighth. Wow!

Heath

August 25th, 2009
5:03 pm

SOCAL MOM

August 25th, 2009
5:06 pm

One thing you have to think about when talking about Sept 1 call ups**
Gwinnett is in the playoffs. They ahve a shot at the first year champoinship. Mississippi is 1o games out –2 games from elimination.
They will need to bring a few of them up to AAA to fill in, but I think they will bring up only what they REALLY need, so that the playoff team is intact

Brandon from Warner Robins

August 25th, 2009
5:06 pm

Mixxo – I agree completely.

Mixxo

August 25th, 2009
5:06 pm

Heath -

Your 4:56 ……..Oh. My. Goodnessssss.

Thanks!

Rumor Central

August 25th, 2009
5:08 pm

Next winter: Vazquez for Ben Zobrist???

Brandon from Warner Robins

August 25th, 2009
5:09 pm

Heath

August 25th, 2009
5:09 pm

Mixxo -

Would like to say I took the picture myself… :)

CB

August 25th, 2009
5:11 pm

Heath and Brandon,you guys must lead lonely lives. :-)

Mixxo

August 25th, 2009
5:11 pm

Heath –

:lol:

I betch you would!

McFann ;Ô;

August 25th, 2009
5:12 pm

wjones

You seemed a little overconfident regarding our replacements for Chipper/McCann if one of them goes down…careful, man! That stuff tends to come back to bite you! 8O

;)

Heath

August 25th, 2009
5:12 pm

CB -

Nothing wrong with appreciating beautiful art. :)

Brandon from Warner Robins

August 25th, 2009
5:13 pm

Heath @ 5:12 – Agreed

"You all are Cox apologists"

August 25th, 2009
5:13 pm

Attention COX:

Please send Greg Norton where he belongs, “May I take your order please?”

Enough with the smiley faces

August 25th, 2009
5:13 pm

That was like 7 straight ones. Slow down.

Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)

August 25th, 2009
5:16 pm

SOCAL MOM,

If the Braves are within 5 games of the division or the wild card on Sept. 1, Gwinnett may have to make do with a few players missing. I cannot imagine a major-league club harming its postseason prospects merely to give its AAA team a better chance of winning a title.

As DOB and others have noted, Cox doesn’t like calling up guys and have them rust on the bench, but with so many guys dinged up, you can bet we’ll see Sammons, Hudson, Carlyle, and maybe Brandon Jones (if McLouth has any setbacks) up ASAP.

"You all are Cox apologists"

August 25th, 2009
5:17 pm

Do any of you believe in FEMA Death camps, the “Federal” Reserve, coming martial law in America, or the collapse of the dollar?

The Braves are playing great ball and I hope they make the playoffs, however, you have to have well-rounded intelligence. When you’re not blogging, I encourage EACH OF YOU to google these topics. I know some IDIOT will make a dumb remark which is expected. I just hope you are prepared when these things come to pass. I CARE ABOUT ALL OF YOU!!

Brandon from Warner Robins

August 25th, 2009
5:18 pm

Baseball question: Do we pull for the Rockies or the Dodgers this week?

nolie

August 25th, 2009
5:19 pm

(DAP)

that has always been a difference with us. I have next to no use for a .240 hitter and that is what he has averaged over the last 3 years.and much of that’s in the PCL which is a hitters league for the most part. Add crappy defense on top of that, and mediocre is the nicest adjective that I can think of.

Buffalo NY Braves Fan

August 25th, 2009
5:19 pm

“You all are Cox apologists”

Shut up

Heath

August 25th, 2009
5:19 pm

Brandon – Until/unless the Rocks over-take the Dodgers, we want the Rocks to lose.

"You all are Cox apologists"

August 25th, 2009
5:19 pm

Enough with the smiley faces,

Thankyou!

Shamus Thacker

August 25th, 2009
5:20 pm

If we don’t get the sweeps we SHOULD get and then we’re swept by somebody down the road, those non-sweeps could come back to haunt us. It’s hard to say ANY series SHOULD be swept, because luck plays such a huge role in all things baseball. A bounce here, a bounce there, and a sweep, or even a series, can be lost. Against anybody….

K Johnson

August 25th, 2009
5:21 pm

I always have laroche batting 5th on my 2k9 franchise. really 7th??

Steve from OH

August 25th, 2009
5:21 pm

Oh great, now he’s talking about that?

Can it.

Chopdawg

August 25th, 2009
5:22 pm

Pullin’ for Dodgers, myownself…ps any NW Ga bloggers going to Chattaboogie to see the M-Braves this week?

rammerjammer

August 25th, 2009
5:23 pm

Smiling faces….sometime…pretend to be your friend. Can you dig it?

McFann ;Ô;

August 25th, 2009
5:23 pm

That was like 7 straight [smiley faces]. Slow down.

:P

NotA Chance

August 25th, 2009
5:25 pm

You may be the best this board’s goy B A S

nah, he might be in the top 10 unless you are really hung up on esoteric stats.which might move him up a few. :roll:

SOCAL MOM

August 25th, 2009
5:25 pm

I was just saying that they won’t call everyone up just to get to 40, and that the ones they call up can easily be filled with AA players that won’t be needed for any playoffs in Mississippi. That the ones called up will be utilized and nto called up to sit around. It;’s even better that the are less than 45 minutes away and can be on the 40 man yet help out in Gwinnett unless we really need them.

"Chef" Tim Dix

August 25th, 2009
5:26 pm

Here’s hoping infield does a body good, come on Prado!

We need you!

CB

August 25th, 2009
5:26 pm

McFann,give him one of your grumpy faces.

Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)

August 25th, 2009
5:27 pm

I’d rather see the Dodgers go into total freefall, finish out of the postseason and hold a firesale, letting the Braves pick up Loney or Kemp for a song. A kid can dream …

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