3:01 pm August 22, 2009, by David O'Brien
August 23rd, 200911:18 am
Good stuff DOB, I said just before the all star break that Esco was our best player this year and he seems to be living up to it now that this trade stuff is in the rearview mirror. I just checked some stats and it just solidified my thinking that the Braves go as CJ goes. I new he had played more than usual this year but I did not know that he led the team in games played. That is impressive considering the last couple of years, now I know he has fewer ab’s than Laroche, Mclouth, and Esco but BC has taken him out of most of the games that are outta hand. Point is his numbers may be down, but just having him in the lineup makes everybody more comfortable and confident. We definitely need Martin back soon but Omar is still real good. Regarding the article about Hanson and the ROY award, I hate to say it but he is gonna get hosed. Jeff Francoeur got hosed in 05′ when he had comparable offensive numbers to Ryan Howard and had incredible defense compared to Howards putrid defense in almost 20 less games. Last year Jair Jurrjens didn’t even get a good look because Geo Soto played for the Cubbies. Point is, the Phils are espn’s darlings now and Happ has had a good year and is gonna be a real good player, but Tommy is clearly the more dominating pitcher and any team would take Hanson over Happ for the future.
August 23rd, 200911:23 am
DBack Mac-Actually, I did my Masters in Art History-had thoughts of finishing my PhD and teaching-then figured out I wouldn’t be making any more money than doing my own artwork (always claimed the best time to buy a painting was when the electric bill was due-”How much you want for that?” “I’ll take $149.72, thanks.”).
They have a great marketing ResearchDepartment and are one of the best for Higher Ed Administration and STudent Personnel.
August 23rd, 200911:24 am
Yeah, they’re a great team–they’ll be doing the game today!
Just found your “…and Boog” statement pretty funny for some reason.
August 23rd, 200911:26 am
Lowe to step up toda big time, Braves 6-1 over the fishy fishy fishy fish……….
August 23rd, 200911:30 am
The weather is so nice today Lowe won’t even start sweating til the 5th.
August 23rd, 200911:31 am
Hopefully DOB’ll write something about Lowe not being able to bounce back.
It worked for Escobar last night.
…but not for Chipper, so who knows.
August 23rd, 200911:32 am
The weather is BEAUTIFUL! This is one time when I wish they were on at 8 so we could go out back and play some catch this afternoon!
The weather is so nice today Lowe won’t even start sweating til the 5th.
I doubt it. Lowe probably sweats while making a snow angel.
Steve from OH
August 23rd, 200911:33 am
Also, admired Page greatly for the sounds he created, but thought he was a little over-rated as a player.
Oh man, no way. Page is a tremendous player. If anyone’s a little overrated as a player, it’s Hendrix (but he’s still a helluva player, don’t get me wrong).
August 23rd, 200911:35 am
So I’ve been at welcome week in college for about a week now and I didnt realize how hard it would be to follow my team. Meeting new ppl is a full time job. Gonna try and watch Lowe today though. Go Bravos!!!
Hendrix was just good all around. Good player, good voice, good charisma. And a lefty to boot.
August 23rd, 200911:36 am
Same outfield for today as last night? Some of the walking wounded need to get better in a hurry. It’s bad enough having Church in center, but Gorecki? Oh my
August 23rd, 200911:37 am
jeffrey d I doubt it. Lowe probably sweats while making a snow angel.
fastballs, not trying to be a smart a&& but when can a team really use a “loss” by your logic that the Braves really need to win today
You need to be winning every game (you won’t be), but you have to go with that mindset.
Hell, even a last place team like the Nats needs to win.
August 23rd, 200911:38 am
Lowe has to earn his money today. I expect him to come up big. He’s supposed to be a second half big time type pitcher, a playoff type pitcher. Prove it.
August 23rd, 200911:39 am
BravoMan I didnt realize how hard it would be to follow my team.
Aw, man, don’t fill our heads with those collage horror stories or some of us will never even take the SAT!
August 23rd, 200911:40 am
jeffrey d Hopefully DOB’ll write something about Lowe not being able to bounce back.
Maybe he cann add a little something about BMac’s August numbers as well…?
August 23rd, 200911:44 am
Aw, man, don’t fill our heads with those collage horror stories or some of us will never even take the SAT!
I remember one time I made a collage at Camp Crystal Lake, and it kept coming out at night to kill my friends one by one.
August 23rd, 200911:45 am
Steve Hummer wrote a story on Lowe and LaRoche’s problems with ADHD…worth a read, especially if you’re Tomahawkin and think ADD has nothing to do with attention LOL.
August 23rd, 200911:46 am
Lowe’s Head is on the line…
He will go 7 strong and the braves win 5-2 “Bank On It!”
For Lowe’s sake at least. If he gets Slapped today you can bet your bottom dollar that he will be the blog’s whipping boy…
UGA is a fine school I was just joking.
August 23rd, 200911:49 am
I like how Tomahawkin posted RIGHT after RHR said that
Gonna go play with the Gerbil…BBIALW…
August 23rd, 200911:50 am
Ha it’s gonna be tough to balance Braves, studies, and friends but if I can do it anyone can.
August 23rd, 200911:54 am
Supes, I think I explained the logic fairly well in my post. Every win counts the same in the standings, but some wins can count a lot more to the team’s psyche especially this point in the season.
By winning they pass the Marlins in the standings, gain a game on the Giants or Rockies & carry some momentum into the Padres series. A loss means they lose ground to two teams they are chasing in the WC & may erode a little confidence.
That’s just the way I see things.
get you some zeppelin boots and listen to the un-studio-ized page, he was very sloppy… somehow, bowing a guitar for 30 minutes during dazed and confused makes one a guitar legend
lol, If You Think I have ADHD now, you should see me the final 2 weeks of the season and the last time we were in the playoffs…
I know plenty of people who pop Adderall in college during exams time…
August 23rd, 200911:55 am
I did it. But all the way back in 2002, the Braves were leading by such huge margins that games didn’t matter much in August and September.
Then they were out in the playoffs so quickly you didn’t even have to miss a class.
What a coincidence Huh…?
August 23rd, 200911:56 am
DBack-I know. I never take offense when people rip on schools. Don’t get me started on them Damned Gators and their Institute of Higher Idiocy.
Here’s the thing about college: They’re mostly reading the same books in the Ivy League schools as they are in any other college, and the professors all mostly suck, except for the handful you end up really liking even though your friends think those professors suck too. It’s not the school or the professors. You get out of it what you put into it. And if all you get out of it is how to party, network, socialize and live on your own, you’re still better off for having gone ’cause it often seems those skills are just as important or more in the real world as your knowledge and ability to do your job.
August 23rd, 200911:57 am
Speaking of college and the Braves, one of my favorite Sanford Stadium memories was when the Braves were leading the Cubs in the playoffs one year. They announced the score over the PA and everyone in Sanford proceeded to do the Tomahawk Chop.
It was like two beautiful worlds were colliding.
August 23rd, 200911:58 am
Tomahawkin-The didn’t have Aderil (sp) when I was in school. Then it was Ritalin (white crosses). People used to eat them like M&M’s to study for finals. Didn’t have to worry about the Braves in the playoffs back then.
August 23rd, 200911:59 am
Well said, agree with you 100%
August 23rd, 200912:03 pm
People still Pop Ritalin like M&M’s Nothings Changed
Hydrocodone (Sp) Is pretty hot on the streets at parties as well as your other recreational drugs…Like Zany Bars, Ex, etc…
August 23rd, 200912:06 pm
Co Sign as well
I was naive about the party scene til I went to college and started Kicking it With Football players and Frat Guys…
Lingerie Parties Rule…You haven’t lived til you’ve gone to one of those
Add to that the “Principals and School Girls” Parties are off da chain as well…!
My wife and I went to P-tree Tavern last night. JJ was there, and took a picture with us too. He’s a pretty cool dude. A bunch of Marlins players were there too, Uggla, Coghlan, Pinto, Hanley Ramirez, and I think Paulino. I talked to Uggla, who said “I haven’t done sh*t against them this year” in reference to the Braves. It was a fun night. Glad we got the picture. Go Braves
August 23rd, 200912:07 pm
I’m not sure how it is now, but it used to be easy to Get Ped’s/Growth Hormone 5 years ago when I was in College in S. Florida…
August 23rd, 200912:08 pm
Steve OH – Hendrix was a freaky talented guy, rh guitar played lh upside down and he played lead, rhythym at once, just a freak of nature…
Braveheart – the purpose of college is to learn how to learn, anything additional is a bonus. I think of the 1000s of hours I studied and I think most of my knowledge when I worked as an engineer was self taught “on the job”. However, that which i gained at college gave me the nouse to know how to learn and where to look for information to learn more… if that makes sense
August 23rd, 200912:14 pm
Jeff Francouer was tailing off at the end of his rookie year, and Howard was getting better. Howard deserved the honor as their subsequent careers has shown. I agree that Hanson is the better long-term prospect, but right now Happ has slightly better numbers. If Hanson is to overtake Happ, the Braves will have an opportunity to readjust those number in their next two meetings with the Phils.
The ROY does not always go to the best long-term player. In 1954 Wally Moon beat out Hank Aaron for the honor, and in ‘95 Nomo beat out Chipper. Fred Lynn beat out his teammate, Jim Rice, in their rookie year (and was MVP also), and didn’t Joe Charboneau win the award?
August 23rd, 200912:20 pm
As a special education teacher (and mother of an autistic child), I absolutely loved the story about Lowe and LaRoche and their ADHD. I’m not going to get into any of the politics of it. I just thought it was very well-written. And kudos to both Lowe and LaRoche for going public with their situation.
What DOES drive me crazy (slightly off topic) are parents whose kids have meds, have been told to use them, but don’t. Mondays are hell at school from all the kids who were off their meds all weekend. Just my thoughts.
August 23rd, 200912:25 pm
I feel like smaller colleges encourage original thought more. But you’re mostly right, Braveheart.
August 23rd, 200912:26 pm
Even though I live in NW FL, I’m a Bama fan. Raised in south AL.
JJ the pitcher or JJ the fat guy PTV hired to yell at us?
August 23rd, 200912:28 pm
August 23rd, 200912:30 pm
Ashley, is it just because they were off their meds all weekend, or because their parents just let the kids lay about the house all weekend getting no exercise while they loaded the kids up with sugar and all other kinds of crappy food so that their brain chemistry goes haywire with all the chemicals being dumped into it, and their bodies never flush it out with sweat and good ole fun, play, and exercise?
Obviously, alot of people legitimately have ADHD, and do need meds like Lowe and Laroche, but I do believe it is very often overdiagnosed and overmedicated, especially in children when better parenting, more stability, more structure, more exercise, better nutrition could fix what appears to be an ADHD problem, or at least mitigate the symptoms of it.
August 23rd, 200912:31 pm
A few days ago I was driving home from Pensacola listening to a Braves game on the radio when I realized that I was on Don Sutton highway passing through his hometown, Molino, FL.
August 23rd, 200912:35 pm
LINE ‘EM UP
1. Infante (LF)
2. KJ (2B)
8. Gorecki (CF)
Obviously I can’t speak for EVERY ADHD kid out there, and I’m sure your scenario is correct in many cases. But I know several students who told me, “I didn’t take my medication this weekend/last night/yesterday. My mom never gave it to me.” One kid became so good at passing the buck that he started blaming ANY social or academic faux pas on the fact that “well, I didn’t have my medication today.”
August 23rd, 200912:36 pm
When John Baker struck out to end last night’s game, did anyone notice whether David Ross turned and fist-bumped the ump?
August 23rd, 200912:37 pm
I like that lineup…
August 23rd, 200912:38 pm
Like the lineup except I would switch McCann and LaRoche
The lineup isn’t the worse thing… but I would move around the 4/5/6 guys, take the current 4/5/6 guys and move them to 5/6/4
Ashley–kids are clever. Gotta give ‘em credit sometimes…
August 23rd, 200912:39 pm
And obviously would rather have Prado and McClouth in there but alas its not possible
There’s a line-up I can get behind. GO BRAVES.
Prado’s feeling better, though still having slight headaches when he wakes. But medication is beginning to work, or so it seems, at least. He was going to take BP at about 70 percent in indoor cage right before game today, then maybe take infield and everything on Tuesday. Still no target date for return, but I’d guess it could be during Padres series….
Garret said his hip/back (that joint there in right side) is feeling better and he’s aiming for Tuesday return. He, too, was going to hit before game.
It’s family day here, so Braves didn’t take BP or anything before game. Had all their kids and wives on the field right up to 90 minutes before game.
August 23rd, 200912:41 pm
Just up Highway 29 (Don Sutton Hwy) from Molino is Century, FL, the hometown of Buck Showalter, where they have a park named after him.
August 23rd, 200912:43 pm
Steve from OH,
I have never allowed my child to use his disability as an excuse. And I’m proud of that. We’ve told him that yes, he has autism (actually asperger’s but more people are familiar with autism) but he’s still responsible for his own choices. It would have been so easy to let society write him a blank check in sympathy (”Oh it’s not HIS fault!”) But that wouldn’t help him long term.
August 23rd, 200912:44 pm
DOB, what do you think of this? When McLouth and Prado comes back healthy, would we consider something like this against lefties?
1. Infante LF
3. Jones 3B
4. LaRoche 1B / McCann C
5. Escobar SS
6. McCann C / LaRoche 1B
7. McLouth CF
8. Diaz RF
That way you give Nate the opp. to drive in some runs and still have Infante at the top, where he has been successful this year. Thoughts?
August 23rd, 200912:46 pm
John Kruk says, we’re “…the team to watch in the WC race.”
What’s he smokin’?
Why O Why is B-Macc Hitting 4th…?
Bobby’s first dumb move of the day…
August 23rd, 200912:48 pm
Jon Kruck just said he thinks the Braves should not only be in the lead but also be in a battle with Philly for the division but he cant figure out why they are not there. Hmmmmm. Wonder why……. I will give you one guess.
August 23rd, 200912:49 pm
I thought Don Sutton was from Dothan Al…?
Or did he just go to College There…?
August 23rd, 200912:52 pm
Tomahawkin I couldnt agree with you more. A 2 yr old would put Adam in that spot.
August 23rd, 200912:55 pm
OK times up. The reason is that dolt of a manger that we have that keeps guys like Kelly Johnson in the line up for half a season when Prado is there, keeps running a pinch hitter out there that wouldnt make most AA teams & making a line up with his current top power threat not in the 4 hole. That is why we are 4 back in the WC.
August 23rd, 200912:59 pm
When does McLouth return?
August 23rd, 20091:02 pm
August 23rd, 20091:04 pm
DOB – this reference is going to hurt you, but for the Braves, today is another turning point. A fork stuck in the road.
Today the Braves can move into 2nd place by themselves in the East and 3rd in the Wild Card standings. They will also either gain a game on the Rockies or get one game closer to 2nd in the Wild Card Race Giants. They will also take 2 out of 3 against a prime competitor such as the Marlins while missing multiple starters due to injury.
A huge game today at Turner Field (I still want to say Atlanta Fulton County Stadium)
August 23rd, 20091:07 pm
pryguy – @12:59
Hopefully not this year. We need hitters…..not hurters.
August 23rd, 20091:09 pm
Hopefully McLouth’s injury will not be a nagging one now that the Braves have put him on the shelf for 2 weeks. If it does become an injury that keeps him out, Gorecki is not an option as an everyday CF. Where do the Braves go? I would assume that would put Church in CF long term with Diaz in RF and Anderson in LF. Would Schafer be an option as a sometimes starter, backup OF, defensive replacement in the OF?????
BravoMan Ha it’s gonna be tough to balance Braves, studies, and friends but if I can do it anyone can.
Perhaps…But I’m not sure I’ll live through four years of missing some of the Braves in April, May, August, and September! Still got some time to figure that out, though, LOL…
jeffrey d But all the way back in 2002, the Braves were leading by such huge margins that games didn’t matter much in August and September.
“Didn’t matter”? You’re kidding, right?
If I’m in danger of missing the first 5 minutes of a game, I go into panic-mode. You oughta see me at Costco one night a month…starts getting close to seven and it’s watch-checking, walking faster…and there are always long lines at that place ’cause they only have about 3-4 lanes open.
I’m really pathetic.
August 23rd, 20091:10 pm
Sutton is from Clio, a small town in south alabama. I am actualy from Dothan, but pretty much anybody from the south east of Montgomery is labeled “from Dothan” due to the lack of any other halfway significant towns, that anyone has heard of, in the area.
August 23rd, 20091:12 pm
Mr Baseball: Was still waking up and running late when I replied to your music comment this morning.
Here’s better response, now that I’m at ballpark and not hurrying to get here:
You mentioned current bands and named a few you thought I might try, etc. Hey, there are plenty of great current bands and bands of the past decade or two (like Pearl Jam, which you mentioned; but I sure don’t put Offspring among the great ones).
Dude, you should listen to some Spoon, Black Keys, My Morning Jacket, Wilco, Calexico, Kings of Leon, Son Volt, the aforementioned Drive-By Truckers, Son Volt, Art Brut, Handsome Furs, Grizzly Bear, Heartless Bastards, Mastodon, Bon Iver, Dinosaur Jr., Rage Against the Machine, North Mississippi Allstars, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Black Lips, Deerhunter, Dead Prez, and so many more … And there are dozens of terrific, current solo artists in the rock/country/soul/rap genres, from James McMurtry to Steve Earle, Ryan Bingham to M.I.A, Hayes Carll to James Hand, Cat Power to M. Ward, Richard Buckner to Josh Rouse, Neko Case to Mos Def, Steve Wynn to Josh Ritter, Sharon Jones to Kanye West, Greg Brown to Jamey Johnson, Dwight Yokum to Hank III, etc, etc.
I do agree with you on White Stripes. And Jack White’s side projects are also strong.
August 23rd, 20091:15 pm
Is Bobby stubborn? 1-billion jaggazzez in a straw/hay vote, would UNANIMOUSLY have LaRoche at cleanup today. Bobby? Newp… Uh-Uh…. Naw-Naw……..
Saw Inglorious Basterds on Friday night. Great flick and lives up to the hype. You can definately tell it is a Tarantino movie!
10 more minutes? Dangit…
August 23rd, 20091:16 pm
DOB, great line about Baker!!!
August 23rd, 20091:19 pm
DOB – great list as always of current bands that are producing amazing music. I’m going to see DBT this coming Friday and Saturday at the Visulite Theater here in Charlotte. It’s a converted movie theater that holds maybe 600-700 folks. Very intimate venue with great sound.
August 23rd, 20091:20 pm
Amid the jeers I’m sure to receive, I love Kid Rock’s stuff.
I’m a high-energy rock kinda guy.
The Kid Rock admission proves I’m not a liar, that’s a plus I guess…
August 23rd, 20091:22 pm
Some folks would have ZZ Top in top-5. I’d have em in top-10.
August 23rd, 20091:24 pm
Haha! No, that would have only happened if Billy the Kid woulda been there.
August 23rd, 20091:26 pm
I love Rage Against The Machine’s stuff too. Too bad they split.
August 23rd, 20091:28 pm
Doesn’t really make sense to poke fun at an all-star caliber center fielder with great range. Clearly your opinions seem to suffer from the negativity which encompasses your life.
Heyward is 6-for-39 with one homer in his last 10 games, down to .340 now. (Nice to be able to say “down to” .340, ain’t it? Still, he was well over .400 a couple weeks ago)
August 23rd, 20091:29 pm
Had one of the RATM “Nuns With Guns” T-shirts, but left if creekside…
Oh shamus… Pink floyd was bad enough but coping to being a kid rock Fan will bury you round these parts.
The weather my lord this weather! I am cold in short sleeves.
DBack-Bama, huh? You and Braveheart. I’m still smating from that whup[pin they laid on my Dawgs last year.
Tomahawkin-Even the drugs have changed in the past 30 or so years. Back in my day, it was Smoke, Coke and Acid-occasionally some downers. There was no EX, crack, or any of the designer stuff. They did have good pharmaceutical speed, though-the real Black Beauties (RJS). That’s REALLY what everyone wanted top study for finals-problem was it wired you way too much. Ritalin was much milder-kept you awake without really speeding.
August 23rd, 20091:30 pm
Very pretty weather. I like.
August 23rd, 20091:31 pm
This alt-country stuff or whatever you call it….can take a hike. I like McMurtry though, did monitors for him a few years back. Good stuff.
August 23rd, 20091:32 pm
You know about my life?
Prado and KK having some fun in the dugout….
August 23rd, 20091:33 pm
I wasn’t “poking fun” chief……I was dead serious.
August 23rd, 20091:34 pm
DOB, like your top 5 bands, I think 20 yrs. from now consensus will be holding U2 in that regard.
Watching this one with my hank williams loving ww2 vet granddaddy and my sick uncle. The commentary in this room can match this blog commentary any day lol.
August 23rd, 20091:35 pm
Yeah, I love seeing Prado mess with those handshakes/high fives of his. I think he does a different one with each teammate too.
I hope the Awfense keeps being aggressive on the basepaths like they were last night with a few exceptions…
It seems like we hit better when our runners are baggressive and force the issue rather than sit back and play for the 3-run homer which results in DP’s
Seems apparent with your comment on McLouth you don’t appreciate his abilities. Which to me is absurd. It appears people who do write on this blog and claim to be a fan of this club use them to take out their aggression and frustrations on a baseball team trying to do their job and win baseball games.
U2? Ugh. Just…ugh.
August 23rd, 20091:36 pm
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