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Verklempt
August 20th, 2009
4:20 pm
Nolasco shut us down last time.
Daslied
August 20th, 2009
4:20 pm
NS Steve – I know we do this before each of KK’s starts, don’t we? Well, maybe once before. I believe he got shelled that night, so maybe I’m not too bright…
3.7 ERA, 65 hits, 1.25 WHIP over his last 73 innings. More than 3 ER only 4 times in 22 starts? You’ve got to give him a little credit, don’t you?
I can see knocking him for the walks and the IP average, but the dude has been pretty damn effective.
ccrider
August 20th, 2009
4:21 pm
Louisville Brave: I know why I’m still high on Schafer. He was obviously having problem with that bone bruise that didn’t allow him the full use of his wrist action, thus making him tardy on pitches. If, you watched him in spring training, he had no problems catching up to the best pitchers fastballs.
I can tell you one thing for sure, the Braves still see him as their centerfielder of the near future.
Shaun
August 20th, 2009
4:21 pm
DOB, I agree with your main point. Kawakami is underrated by many if not most.
Baseball Prospectus’s ranking is based on VORP. Hardball Times’s ranking is based on Pitchers Runs Created. See those websites for explanations.
I can certainly see how they arrived at those numbers. Santana’s ERA ranks 12th-lowest in the NL. His Run Average (all runs and not just earned runs) ranks 15th-lowest among pitchers who’ve thrown at least 100 innings. He ranks 13th in innings. He’s tied for 14th in Quality Starts. So even if we don’t use complex stats, it still looks as though Santana is at least in the top 15 among NL pitchers.
Regarding his contract versus Kawakami’s, the Mets can afford to overpay for whomever they want. It’s not as important for them to “properly” value player or get players on the cheap.
fleming
August 20th, 2009
4:22 pm
Wayne – I would challenge you to EVER find a place where I have railed on KJ
I will back you up with that one.
METSFAN4LIFE
August 20th, 2009
4:22 pm
Francoer has been feasting and fattening up on Braves pitching. He’s hitting .323 against his former team.
LSU
August 20th, 2009
4:23 pm
Hanson could’ve been the real deal at the beginning of this season…Imagine what 3 or 4 more wins would look like in the standings right now.
cphizzle
August 20th, 2009
4:23 pm
the way roachy is swingin the stick why rush freeman? sign roach to a 3-4 year deal.
monty
August 20th, 2009
4:24 pm
Fleming
“Laroche’s first half career numbers are bad.”
You are right, it would be nice if players didn’t take months off and were consistent across the board. But they aren’t. The research I have done found that most players slump at some point,usually for a month at a time, they may come back have a great following month then go for a month and not hit. It’s a bit unexplainable but it happens. At least down the stretch drive we could bank on him putting up good if not great numbers!
Tomahawk Talk
August 20th, 2009
4:25 pm
i completely agree cphizzle. then if freeman is pushing at the door we trade roachy for a spot needed. or hell trade freeman along the way. im loving adam. he is the big bat that this lineup has lacked. i was hesitant at first at the acquisition but i LOVE it now.
Hillbilly
August 20th, 2009
4:25 pm
18 WOL,
I’m sitting here putting together a “SuperBowl Shuffle”-like cast to sing each line of that one. How’s this?:
Garret Anderson – They say I’m lazy but it takes all my time
Mike Gonzalez- Everybody say “Oh yeah”
Everybody- Ohhhh yeah!
John Smoltz- I keep on going, yes I’ll never know why
Tommy Hanson- Life’s been good to me so faaaarrrr
METSFAN4LIFE
August 20th, 2009
4:26 pm
Word on the skreet is that Minyana is VERY interested in signing LaRoche once the season has commeneced.
fleming
August 20th, 2009
4:26 pm
monty
You know the blog would crucify him for the first few months of the season.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 20th, 2009
4:27 pm
Daslied…you are a worthy opponent my friend…
And yeah we’ve done this a couple of times…but yeah I’ll give the guy a some credit…
…..
(he has a nice car)
fleming
August 20th, 2009
4:27 pm
METSFAN4LIFE –
what is commeneced.
bravesgrl4life
August 20th, 2009
4:28 pm
METSFAN4LIFE – did you not see my post earler. I am not sure MF stands for Mets Fan. Get thee away from our Braves blog you little jerk. We’re tired of your mouth.
Shaun
August 20th, 2009
4:28 pm
DOB, all I’m saying is that if you take the entire season into account it’s still one-sided. But I do agree that it’s closer than many if not most people think.
StingerSplash
August 20th, 2009
4:28 pm
Metsfan4life,
Don’t you mean, once the season has concluded? The season commenced almost five months ago.
cphizzle
August 20th, 2009
4:28 pm
same here, i thought except for a lil boost in power it was a mostly lateral move when we got roachy for kotch, but he has been exactly what we needed.
ccrider
August 20th, 2009
4:29 pm
cphizzle and Tomahawk Talk: Roachy is only a good sign if the price is right. A 4 year deal at around $5 mill. per year would work, but much more than that in these tight financial times wouldn’y be worth it. At that price, even when Freeman is ready, Roachy wouldn’t be hard to move.
Verklempt
August 20th, 2009
4:29 pm
Rafael Furcal- I go to parties, sometimes until 4
Anders
August 20th, 2009
4:29 pm
it’s not as though Johan has been a Roy Halladay-like bullpen saver this season, going eight or nine innings just about every time out. In fact, Santana has lasted more than 7-1/3 innings just twice all season, and never more than eight. (DOB)
Santana was never a bullpen saver. As a matter of fact one of the knocks on him was he willingly comes out of some games a little to early. There was one game when he questioned Manuel on the mound but that was an exception.
Wayne in Utah
August 20th, 2009
4:30 pm
Louisville
Schafer is in the Braves plans for CF. I don’t have faith in Schafer. I have hope.
Besides, Phillies fans are glad that in 1971, the Phils management didn’t give up on Mike Schmidt when he hit less than 200 in his first year.
I guess you aren’t buying the hand/wrist ailment huh? I guess he’s been sitting because he likes that major league minimum.
LT- A Blogger
August 20th, 2009
4:32 pm
Hillbilly – game me a funny thought….betting that Kenshin cranks Sammy Hagar “I can’t drive 55″ when he pops that thing into 5th or 6th gear (or whatever is the highest gear for that ride). Then probably segues into old school Van Halen.
McFann ;Ô;
August 20th, 2009
4:32 pm
Thanks for the new Blog, Chief! Good numbers on KK. Really hope the Braves cann get him a win tonight!
“Facetious”…think of Barney Fife every time I hear/read it.
cabravesfan–
Thanks for the spelling correction. Yeah…those things are good with salsa.
flange1
August 20th, 2009
4:33 pm
METSFAN4LIFE,
Dude, I think you are wrong! Omar is thinking about Murphy as his 1B of the future, not LaRoche…
Wayne in Utah
August 20th, 2009
4:33 pm
I hate to sit around and assume that a prospect is just going to be all that in the majors. Sign LaRoche. It might take 4 years, and I doubt 5 million per would do it. Probably 7 though?
Freeman is not a sure thing. Heyward is about the closest we have to a sure thing. Schafer is not a sure thing (note Nate McLouth in CF, as our backup).
Steve in NC
August 20th, 2009
4:34 pm
StingerSplash… trade a masarati for a new camaro? Either you are kidding, or are a huge redneck.
Efrim
August 20th, 2009
4:34 pm
Wren will probably decide on whether to trade Kawakami or Vazquez or pick up Hudson’s option after he decides what makes the most sense for the 2010 Braves. I think I read an earlier post about the 2011 rotation, and that’s why we need to keep Kawakami. I disagree with this. Can’t worry too much about Kawakami’s impact on the 2011 rotation when you are to put the best team out there for 2010. If you can get fair value in a trade for Kawakami, then I am for trading him and picking up Hudson’s option(and obviously keeping Vazquez). And yes, there should be a good amount of suitors for a pitcher like him. For some reason, I just think that Wren will either deal Vazquez or let Huddy go.
cphizzle
August 20th, 2009
4:35 pm
well im not sayin break the bank for the guy but give him his due. you are getting a guy with some pop specially in the 2nd half. where else are you going to find this unless freeman is ready at a young age?
Wayne in Utah
August 20th, 2009
4:35 pm
Only problem with KK’s ride is that you can’t drop that top!
METSFAN4LIFE
August 20th, 2009
4:36 pm
Murphy has soft wood. He’s good defensively, but not the offensive juggernut like LaRoche.
McFann ;Ô;
August 20th, 2009
4:36 pm
Oh, and good numbers on Matty, too. How long is he “signed” for or whatever?
Geo123
August 20th, 2009
4:36 pm
ccrider,
Why in the world do you think that the Braves would be able to sign Holiday? The Cardinals have already stated many times that they plan on signing him and I believe they will unless the bidding get’s out of hand (ie. 20 million plus for 5 or 6 year plus a complete no trade). If he signs fo rthe number syou mention then I will guarantee you that he signs with St. Louis based on the comments he has been making.
Also, as far as your comments on Lowe, why do you think it will be so easy to move him? He’s signed for 3 more years at 10:$15M, 11:$15M, and 12:$15M. That’s alot to pay a guy who’s 36 years old right now and has an ERA of almost 4.50 and a WHIP approaching 1.5. He’s not a top of the rotation guy right now and yet he’s gooing to be paid like one for 3 more years!
Wayne in Utah
August 20th, 2009
4:37 pm
Steve in NC
Only if the Camaro is a drop top!
McFann ;Ô;
August 20th, 2009
4:38 pm
Wayne–
Yeah, but it’s a sweet ride from the looks of it! Niiiice…
Course, whenever I get a car, I love to do the whole Honda CRV thing…love those cars.
Wayne in Utah
August 20th, 2009
4:39 pm
Efrim
I don’t see FW NOT resigning Huddy, unless he fails miserably in September. Too many clubs out there needing starting pitching that would deal for Vazquez or Huddy next winter. If Kawakami finishes strong, put him in that mix too.
Remember, the Braves would prefer to trade than to sign free agents. Last winter was an aberration.
Wayne in Utah
August 20th, 2009
4:41 pm
Geo
20 out of 26 starts with 3 or less ER’s. That is why he remains a Brave for at least one more year.
AndyC
August 20th, 2009
4:41 pm
Wayne in Utah
I agree with you 100% on LaRoche. Everyone assumes that Freeman is going to be in the majors late next season or the beginning of the following season. No one know if and when he will be ready. There have been plenty of big time prospects that have flamed out. Not saying it’s going to happen to Freeman, just saying we don’t know if it will happen. I also think it will take more than 5 mil to get him, probably a 2-3 year deal worth 6-7 mil a piece.
monty
August 20th, 2009
4:42 pm
Fleming
“Readers on the blog would crucify him the first half(LAroche)
Actually I don’t hink they would. I did some digging and LAroche’s career BA in MArch and April is .196(ugh) but he still hits his HR’s. In MAy and June his numbers reflect his career BA and slugging and OPS. However, in July-October the guy becomes a beast! Slugging in the .550 range and over .900 OPS and hitting slightly over .300. I’ll take that!
faninva
August 20th, 2009
4:42 pm
Manny – it’s hard to leave when you can’t find the door.
fleming
August 20th, 2009
4:43 pm
METSFAN4LIFE – Murphy has soft wood. He’s good defensively.
Have you even been paying attention to the Mets at all or just come on this blog to spout garbage. Murphy is at first because they had to find a place where he wasn’t atrocious as a defender. His defense at first at best approaches Adam Dunn and that ain’t good.
Daslied
August 20th, 2009
4:43 pm
Good to know that Daniel Murphy has soft wood.
NS Steve – well played.
Hillbilly
August 20th, 2009
4:44 pm
Finishing up what Verklempt started:
Rafael Furcal — I go to parties sometimes until four
Bay Area Steve — It’s hard to leave when you can’t find the door
Kris Medlen — It’s tough to handle this fortune and fame
Bobby Cox — Everybody’s so different I haven’t changed
Efrim
August 20th, 2009
4:44 pm
Wayne in Utah, I agree. Clearly, one of them will not be on next years staff. It’ll be interesting to see what route Wren goes.
DMac
August 20th, 2009
4:45 pm
Yak it up boys. Exhaust every possible angle for looking at all of the minutia of the Braves. The ship is still sinking, whether or not you want to admit that the iceberg is real. This organization is fatally flawed, in that it has no real owner.
timthebrave
August 20th, 2009
4:45 pm
Braves need a big win tonight. Have to win the series against a Mets team that is missing half their lineup. I’ll take 2 out of 3 against any team. Go Braves!
Mitchell
August 20th, 2009
4:45 pm
OK, gotta get tot he ballpark.
Man, DOB must really be losing it.
It’s interesting, I think what O’Brien (I can’t believe I just called him O’Brien) has encapsulated in the first several paragraphs of this blog, and to a lesser degree with the following paragraphs which get a little redundant (joking), is an example of everything that’s wrong with ESPN.
ESPN will make all kinds of excuses for guys like Santana but won’t bother to mention pitchers who have really lacked run support and whose records don’t indicate how good they are.
Jurrjens never gets that kind of treatment. I mean, I wouldn’t expect anyone to make a special case for Kawakami because he has been pretty inconsistent, but certainly JJ and Javy would be Cy Young candidates if not for their lack of run support and unimpressive records.
The obvious concern though, to me at least, is whether or not he (KK) will give us another solid performance tonight like the one in LA or even the against the Phillies. It would be nice to avoid the “one bad inning” syndrome.
I’m just a little worried he might give up a few runs and these idiots with the bats start swinging and missing at everything or hitting into double plays. You still never know with some of these guys. I just hope they don’t freeze up and let Santana off the hook.
Gee, am I overusing that metaphor just a bit?
Chuck
August 20th, 2009
4:46 pm
I’m a little surprised that KJ isn’t in the lineup, because he’s been very hot since coming back. He messed up a grouner last night, but made a great turn on a double play try, and hit the ball hard to the opposite field in his at-bat. Infante has also been lights out though, and we need a lead-off guy today. Maybe we get up early and Cox moves Infante to 3rd and subs KJ at 2nd like last night. Chipper isn’t burning it up right now and can maybe use the healing time.
ncscoots
August 20th, 2009
4:46 pm
He’s not a top of the rotation guy right now and yet he’s gooing to be paid like one for 3 more years!
And for the course of the contract (barring unforseen circumstances), the Braves will have at least two young top-of-the-rotation starters making bupkes. Even if Lowe declines to being a mid-rotation guy and is overpaid for being one, it doesn’t affect the Braves’ overall budget for pitching very much. The upside is that Lowe is the type of pitcher who could continue to be solid throughout the course of the contract, even at an advanced age.
sportsmandh
August 20th, 2009
4:46 pm
Hillbilly,
How about this?
Francoeur in ATL – It’s tough to handle this fortune and fame
Francoeur in NY – Everybody’s so different I haven’t changed
(OK, so he’s hitting better in NY, but is anybody really missing him? Anybody really thinking we shoulda kept him with Heyward in the pipeline? Really?)
McFann ;Ô;
August 20th, 2009
4:46 pm
AndyC–
Well, I did my homework…And BMac has never had two hits in one inning before! So last night was a first for him. I did, however, find these two games:
July 13th, 2007: In the sixth inning, he homered and made out #3 (against Ian Snell…good ol’ Iann Snell, gone to the AL
).
May 4th, 2008: In the second inning, he walked and reached on an error.
I found another game–think it was from ‘06–where he made both the first and third out in one inning, but I forgot to write down the date.
METSFAN4LIFE
August 20th, 2009
4:47 pm
fleming you’re wrong. I have season txt at the citi. Murphy has show flashes of defensive brilliance
ncscoots
August 20th, 2009
4:48 pm
This organization is fatally flawed, in that it has no real owner.
I got your take on that after the first 20 repetitions.
Supes
August 20th, 2009
4:48 pm
Mets fan, dream on. Adam LaRoache isn’t going to go to a 2nd tier team in NYC.
He’s a country guy, loves the Braves and ATL, and his friends on the team, and will sign with the Braves. Book it!
DOB,
I’d guess Bobby Cox is trying to go with infante tonight inspite of those horrible numbers 2-24 b/c he had such a good game last night with 3 hits.
I hope KJ gets in there eventually, maybe as pinch hitter or as a part of a double switch later on in the game.
If history holds true…what we’ve seen from KK is that he pitches well in big games against big time opposition. Let’s hope that’s the case tonight.
Who’s got the guts to call it? KK outpitching Santana in his own backyard?
Anders…I’ll go on record right now and call it for KK over your team’s Ace!
ChurchMan
August 20th, 2009
4:48 pm
where 4 runs per game (Sanatana’s stat) would have helped KK
April 21: KK gives up 2 runs in 5 innings, braves lose 4-3. KK takes the loss.
May 5: KK gives up 2 in 5, braves lose 4-3. KK takes the loss
May 27: KK gives up 3 earned runs, braves lose 6-3. KK with the loss.
Jun 2 and 8: Braves win both games but KK with the NDs (gives up 6 total runs in 13 innings)
Jun 13: KK with another ND, Braves lose 8-4 but KK only gives up 2
Jun 18: KK gives up 2 runs in 6.2 innings, Braves lose 5-1. KK takes the loss.
Jun 23: KK goes 5 gives up 1, Braves lose 5-1. KK with a ND
Aug 3: KK goes 6, gives up 3, Braves lose 4-2. KK takes the loss
Aug 8 and 15: KK with 2 NDs, Braves win both games, KK goes 13.1 innings giving up 3 runs
In most of these cases where he gives up less than 3 but the Braves lose big, the bullpen came in and put it out of reach. If they don’t do that he has more no decisions and fewer losses.
McFann ;Ô;
August 20th, 2009
4:49 pm
It’s tough to handle this fortune and fame
Everybody’s so different I haven’t changed
I hate that line!! Why did he “rhyme” changed with fame?? He should have said,
It’s tough to handle this fortune and fame
Everybody’s so different I’m still the same
Fits the tune and everything…
Jim Rockford
August 20th, 2009
4:49 pm
Speaking of players cars, I remember going out into the parking lot at AFC Stadium and getting Jerry Royster’s autograph as he was getting out of his blue Triumph.
Ben
August 20th, 2009
4:50 pm
Wouldn’t be surprised if both K.J. and Infante are in the line-up and Laroche sits.
Hillbilly
August 20th, 2009
4:50 pm
faninva and sportsmandh:
Good ones.
iowabrave
August 20th, 2009
4:50 pm
Glad to see someone write an article (okay blog) about Santana not living up to billing this year. I thought his All-Star selection was a little fishy, but no one said anything about it. I would have to look it up, but I would guess JJ & Vasquez have better #s this year than Santana. Excluding wins, of course. I wouldn’t argue that he is a monster, but he has not been a monster this year.
And who has been after getting rid of Diaz? I don’t read every entry, but come on folks. You don’t win, divisions, championships, etc w/o guys like Diaz, Ross, Moylan and the like. They will never win an MVP, batting title, or Cy Young, but they make the line-up longer, get the outs in the 7th and all that. You have got to get contributions from all 25 spots to win ball games. And as a 3/4th outfielder, Diaz is pretty dang strong.
Efrim
August 20th, 2009
4:51 pm
Steve from OH, I read Cameron’s take on the draft. Pretty wild. I’m not sure that’s the way to go, but it’s certainly a creative way of thinking. I’ve heard a lot of people say that the draft isn’t broke and there isn’t anything to fix. I disagree with that, but I know that almost everyone is in favor of making the draft worldwide. Lump the Rule IV and International free agents together. Makes the most sense to me.
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
August 20th, 2009
4:52 pm
METSFAN4LIFE,
Usually I don’t respond to trolls, but you are just too ignorant to resist. I’m going to leave alone that confusing “team that supports a team” statement, it’s almost too easy.
Do you have any statistics that would back up anything you say? How about Johan and his 1 career win against Atlanta? That ring a bell?
faninva
August 20th, 2009
4:52 pm
nscoots – amen, brother.
McFann – You have to understand, he had had a few (thousand) drinks by then. At least he was close – I’ll give ‘em credit for that.
AndyC
August 20th, 2009
4:52 pm
DOB
Nice blog. I have always been a KK fan and maybe this blog can change some minds. Have you also noticed that over the last few starts at least, maybe longer, that KK has been going up against the opposing team’s ace? Here’s a list of the opposing pitchers he has faced over his last seven starts including tonight: Santana, Hamels, Kershaw, Latos, Josh Johnson, Zito, and Santana again. I know Zito doesn’t really count but he’s one of those guys that can be either dominant or very hittable. He was dominant against the Braves that night. Kinda weird.
bravesgrl4life
August 20th, 2009
4:52 pm
Good one, McFann. You are so on with that.
ccrider
August 20th, 2009
4:52 pm
Geo123: I think Wayne in Utah say it well. Derek Lowe would be perfect for a contending team that can add payroll, has a good offense and wants 20 of 26 quality starts. Yes, he blows up once in a while, I think a near 80% quality start rate will attract some teams.
Wayne in Utah
August 20th, 2009
4:53 pm
Supes
What the heck. I’ll call it Braves 4, Mets 2.
(what do I have to lose anyway?)
monty
August 20th, 2009
4:54 pm
I guess KJ is in BC’s doghouse. THis is the second time in recent days that KJ has big numbers against a pitcher, (even though he’s a LH) and BC gives the nod to Infante. I believe we could use the offense tonight. Not sure what BC is thinking. MAkes me question if he is even aware of the numbers. If he is aware and chooses to start someone who hasn’t quite returned to form. I’m not sure what to think.
McFann ;Ô;
August 20th, 2009
4:54 pm
faninva–
Haha! That’s true…
bravesgrl4life–
Thanks…yeah, bugs me every time. I like clever rhymes…but the words have to actually sound the same, ya know?
Mitchell
August 20th, 2009
4:54 pm
METSFAN4LIFE
August 20th, 2009
3:32 pm
KK should go back to Japan. He is not a major league pitcher like Santana.
You mean the guy who has only beaten us once in 5 tries and only managed a victory in the last meeting because of Greg Norton, the worst pinch hitter in baseball?
Of course, he was one of the best last year. That’s the disappointing thing. I seem to recall a 9th inning, game winning, three run homerun in September of ‘08 in the last game the Braves were to ever play at Shea Stadium as one of his best moments in a career season.
But that was then and the Saturday Fox game at home in July with the bases loaded is, well, now.
Shamus Thacker
August 20th, 2009
4:55 pm
Anybody in the mood to pit-cook a delicious pork butt, then drive over to Dobbins and have one of the fellers F-16 it to my house?
Thang you
Thang you very mudge…
Shamus has left the blog. Repeat; Shamus has left the blog.
METSFAN4LIFE
August 20th, 2009
4:55 pm
Johan beat the Braves back in July.
McFann ;Ô;
August 20th, 2009
4:56 pm
monty Makes me question if he is even aware of the numbers.
I don’t think he is…otherwise Johnson would be playing tonight and BMac wouldn’t bat cleanup against lefties.
AndyC
August 20th, 2009
4:56 pm
McFann
I knew you would find the BMac information.
Pretty cool that that was the first time he did it. I wonder if he knows? Now he needs to hit two homers in one inning. That would be awesome. I’m sure a few people have done that before but probably not too many.
Mitchell
August 20th, 2009
4:56 pm
But that was then and the Saturday Fox game at home in July with the bases loaded is, well, now.*
*when he struck out, that is…
jason
August 20th, 2009
4:56 pm
McFann, Is BMac starting to heat up finally? Hope I didn’t just put the hex on him. That HR last night seemed like his first of the year.
DOB, great write up on KK. It needed to be pointed out how good he has pitched. It is not a comparison to Johan. It is his good KK has pitched except for one month. KK gets more crap and insults thrown at him than said Lowe, who also is making a heap of money as an ace pitching more like a #5. Someone posted earlier how KK keeps facing other team’s aces. That’s crazy considering how KK is our #4 or #5. That would be an interesting stat for someone to look up. Look up who KK has started against.How mnay times has faced the oppisition’s #1 this year. Seems like every other start. I know it has been kicked around, but I like the thought of the 6 man rotation when Huddy comes back. The reasoning is simple. KK is used to a 6 man. Hanson is a rookie, JJ is in his second full season, Lowe has proven that along with age, that a heavy work load is taking a toil on his numbers, Huddy is coming back from a serious arm surgery. JV is the only work horse we really have this year.
A 6 man would allow for extra rest as the season unfolds with ATL making a run at the post season. I also think it would be a good way to make a good observation on what moves should be made in the offseason regarding JV and Huddy. Anyway just a thought.
Wayne in Utah
August 20th, 2009
4:56 pm
ccrider
Actually, I think the context of my Lowe statement was to say that WE should be happy with that from one of our mid rotation starters.
Huddy, Jurrjens, Hanson, Lowe, Kawakami…..I like that rotation for 2010.
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
August 20th, 2009
4:56 pm
METSFAN4LIFE,
We know…. he’s got 1 career win against the Braves…. the great Johan… with 1 career win…
oh and his wife is WAY ugly.
gayle
August 20th, 2009
4:57 pm
When are these “do or die” series going to stop? The Phillies was a make or break, do or die series and the Braves came just an error by Lidge away from being swept. Now it is the Mets and the “do or die” – then the big series with the Marlins….. etc, etc………
This is just silly. When this team makes the playoffs, all of you can take a number and have the privledge of telling me I told you so – but I am not too worried about it. The Phillies have only gotten better, making the best trade deadline pickup of the league in landing Cliff Lee.
Just get past the fantasy and actually take a breath and rebuild. This could really be a good team if they ever stopped the nonsense of being a contender.
METSFAN4LIFE
August 20th, 2009
4:57 pm
thanks mitchell for giving buffula ny bf the statistics he craved. Here’s some more. For tonights game: Johan 7.2 innings pitched 5 SO 1 BB 1 ER in a 4-1 Mets win.
DMac
August 20th, 2009
4:58 pm
The law of entropy will run its course and the Braves organization will continue to grow weaker and weaker, until the organization gets new ownership. I hope all of you ignorant, happy fans enjoy the slide. After forty years, I’m giving up on the Braves. I just won’t support a doomed franchise any more.
Anders
August 20th, 2009
4:58 pm
If history holds true…what we’ve seen from KK is that he pitches well in big games against big time opposition. Let’s hope that’s the case tonight (Supes)
What? He’s been in this country about an hour. He pitches for a third place team. Where exactly did you see what you stated above? Tokyo?
Kieran: Long Island Braves Fan
August 20th, 2009
4:58 pm
Can’t they fix it so that Kawakami doesn’t face EVERY teams ace. I mean come on. Sit him out a start or something
METSFAN4LIFE
August 20th, 2009
4:59 pm
JS’s wife isn’t ugly. She’s on the same level as Mark DeRosa’s wife in my book.
sportsmandh
August 20th, 2009
4:59 pm
All I can say to the anti-Kawakami crowd is this. Who would you rather run out there every 5th day? Lance Cormier, Mark Redman, Jo Jo Reyes, Jorge Campillo, Buddy Carlyle, Charlie Morton, James Parr, Matt Harrison, Jorge Sosa????? A 42 year old can’t break a window pane Glavine? This type list would be your level of choice if KK was not here. Take your pick.
Kawakami is fine by me. (and from the list I happen to like Buddy and Morton, but still give me KK anyday of the week)
Also, it’s obvious this team needs Medlin in the bullpen, so don’t say Medlin.
flange1
August 20th, 2009
5:00 pm
How can one of “Bobby’ Boys” be in the manager’s doghouse?
I just don’t understand!!!!!
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
August 20th, 2009
5:00 pm
Anders,
KK has stepped up against Halladay and a few other big name pitchers this season. Not sure those qualify as “big games” or “pressure packed” but he does seem to pitch to his competition.
Efrim
August 20th, 2009
5:00 pm
Steve from OH, also regarding Cameron’s draft proposal, what’s to stop a player from going to a winning team? In his scenario, players would choose where they would want to be. Which players would choose the Pirates? Sure, they would be able to offer more money to the upper echelon group, but I feel like there would be a vast majority of players that would sway towards the large market in the hopes that their future earnings would be great.
Count de Monet
August 20th, 2009
5:00 pm
DMAC
Don’t let the door hit you in the azz on the way out. Have a nice life.
Geo123
August 20th, 2009
5:01 pm
Wayne in Utah,
He still has an ERA approaching 4.5 and an ERA in August approaching 6. I think he’ll be a Brave for at least 2 more years because nobody wants that contract. His performance doesn’t equal his salary right now. He may be turning into more of an innings eater than anything. Which team do you think will be willing to pay him 45 million over the next 3 years?
sportsmandh
August 20th, 2009
5:02 pm
Oh how could I forget, maybe some denizens would prefer Chuck James or Horacio Ramirez to Kawakami?
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
August 20th, 2009
5:02 pm
METSFAN4LIFE,
dude I saw pictures of her from that NY Times web survey about which NY ball player had the best wife…. she looked like Scott Olsen and Brett Myers went 12 rounds with her…..
Tex’s wife looks like she’s 12 btw
And the almight David Wrights girl looked like an 11 on the 10 scale.
AndyC
August 20th, 2009
5:02 pm
Now that I look. Latos doesn’t really count as an ace either…but it’s the Padres, they don’t really have an ace.
Daslied
August 20th, 2009
5:03 pm
DMac, nice of you to bring your wife Gayle to the blog.
Raphael "The Witch Doctor" Soriano
August 20th, 2009
5:04 pm
Come on DOB….are you suggesting Kawakami is even remotely close to Santana
. I will make a special doll to stick my pins in tonight.
flange1
August 20th, 2009
5:04 pm
Dmac,
Well sorry that have have given up on the Braves! Good luck in the future! See you in the funny papers!
Hopefully you will now leave the blog too!
Nova Scotia Steve
August 20th, 2009
5:06 pm
I’d say Booby Cox is trying to get Infante as many consecutive at-bats and games as he can.
Maybe Booby is hoping by doing that…he’s get back the Infante “pre-broken hand” game mode…when Infante was one of our best hitters
Lord knows how long this Prado thing may linger…
Mitchell
August 20th, 2009
5:06 pm
Metfan4life,
I just want to say, I’m trying not to get all bent out of shape by your pressence on this blog. I want to tell you to shut up but if you have the ability to come on here after losing 15-2 then I have to respect that.
I’m just wondering, has there ever been Braves fans making comments on a Mets blog? I imagine it’s happened but I just can’t see any reason why I would want to do it myself.
Do it myself, that sounds weird.
Whatever, free blog. Go crazy.
njbraves
August 20th, 2009
5:07 pm
Wayne in Utah….I wasn’y calling you personally out in the KJ post….just saying it’s funny to see folks who actually want him to play. As far as KK goes, if what he has given the Braves is exactly what they thought they were gonna get or what they wanted, then they screwed up more than I thought. I’m sorry, but 5 inning pitchers with 4+ ERA’s aren’t that hard to come by, not to mention his losing record. yeah, he deserved a better fate in some of those games, but he,IMO, isn’t a very good pitcher.