Rain for a rain makeup?

(Staff writer Carroll Rogers is filling in for David O’Brien today.)

 

   OK, so it’s a makeup game for a rain-out and the forecast isn’t exactly peachy. I read on weather.com that scattered thunderstorms should be arriving for the afternoon. I see.

   On top of that, it’s a 4 o’clock game. The Braves are coming off a big series against the Phillies, and a letdown at that after losing two out of three thanks to Ryan Howard and his three home runs. So I’d venture a guess that the crowd today will be a lot more like the Nationals’ series than the Phillies.

   But there are a couple of things working in fans’ favor today. $1 tickets and a really nice pitching matchup: Tommy Hanson vs. Max Scherzer, the top young pitcher for the Braves vs. the top young pitcher for the Dbacks.

   Hanson (7-2, 3.05) has won his last two outings – against the Nationals and Padres – and has pitched at least six innings in each of his last five starts and seven of eight.

   Scherzer (7-6, 3.94) has faced the Braves twice the season and has been either really good or really bad. He shut them out for six innings in a 12-0 win on May 16 at Turner Field. Then two weeks later on May 31, the Braves rocked him for eight runs on 10 hits in 3 2/3 innings in Arizona.

   So take your pick which way he might go today.

   Speaking of Hanson, one of the writers from Southern California here a couple weeks back for the Dodgers series told me something sort of funny I thought I’d share about Tommy Hanson. Growing up, he used to be a pudgy catcher.

   Hanson? Mr. long and lean, the 6-foot-6, 220-pound string bean out there? The one who was even lankier than usual after he lost 10-12 pounds when he had the flu?

   Yep, Hanson nodded with a smile, he was pudgy.

   “When I was 13 or 14,” Hanson said. “Then I started growing, and from then on I was on the skinnier side. Right before my junior year of high school, I grew four inches. I was 6-2 and (grew) to 6-6. I haven’t grown since.”

   Ouch, that had to hurt, right?

   “Yeah, bad,” Hanson said. “I’ve always had growing pains growing up, but that was wasn’t fun. I was so awkward too. Anything athletic, I was legs and arms going everywhere, just baseball in the street, football, whatever. It was weird.”

   Hanson said he pitched and caught when he was younger and played some corner infield. He didn’t start focusing on pitching until his junior year in high school. At 6-foot-6, at that point, we can see why. Anyway, just a little food for thought as you look out at Hanson on the mound today (or picture him, for those of you at, ahem, work.)

 

BIGGER PICTURE

   So the Braves are six games behind the Phillies with 46 games to play. Is it over? You can’t really say that with so many games remaining over the stretch run against NL East teams. I suppose just about anything could happen in September.

   But I was curious to hear what Braves players thought about this, now that they have dropped two of three to the Phillies – and let’s be honest, the one they won was a gift.

   So I hijacked two paragraphs from David O’Brien’s game story written in the wee hours of this morning. And here’s what I was looking for:

   (From DOB) Javier Vazquez said there was no reason for the Braves to sulk after the loss. With 46 games to play — six against the Phillies — they are tied with Chicago for fourth in the wild-card standings, 3-1/2 games behind leader Colorado.

   “There are a lot of games to be played,” he said. “We’ve got to keep fighting. We’re playing well. We lost two games here; we could have won the first game. We’re right there in the wild card, and six games out in the East.”

   I guess we’ll see what they think based on their concentration here going forward. Their actions will speak loudly.

 

CATCHING UP WITH CARLYLE

   When I was at Gwinnett last Thursday watching Tim Hudson, I had a chance to catch up with our old friend Buddy Carlyle, who is well on his way to learning how to function as a pitcher with his Type I Diabetes.

   He’s been pitching well. Between his minor league rehab and since when he was optioned to Gwinnett, Carlyle has appeared in eight games, between Rome and Gwinnett. He was scoreless in the first seven of them. (Oops, right up until I asked him about that the other day, and then he gave up two runs in 1 2/3 innings against Pawtucket on Friday night. Sorry, Buddy.)

   But the outing prior to that, Carlyle struck out five of the six batters he faced in two perfect innings. He’s 2-0 with a 1.46 ERA in eight games overall, with nine hits allowed in 12 1/3 innings. And get this: 17 strikeouts and zero walks.

   Most important to Carlyle is he’s feeling good and he’s feeling strong. And he’s learning how to pitch with his diabetes.

   I’m sure he was a little disappointed that he was optioned to Gwinnett rather than returning to Atlanta, but he’s also making the best of his time there, getting back in a routine and learning how to adjust his blood sugar levels as needed.

   He told me on days he pitches, he probably checks it 10 times (as opposed to maybe four times on other days).

   “I’m checking right before game starts, again in the fourth, then I check it about every other inning just to make sure because it drops sometimes pretty quick when I’m out there,” Carlyle said.

   He’s learned a trick that if he takes a Snickers bar and divides it into fourths he can use that to get his blood sugar back to normal. He needs 20 points? Eats one-fourth of a Snickers bar. Needs 50 points? Eats a half. He knows that might not be the most nutritional way to go, maybe, but it’s working for him.

   Then he’ll check his blood sugar again 45 minutes after the game. He’s got over an hour drive back home to Peachtree City from Gwinnett and sometimes, he said, he’ll pull the car over and check it on the way home.

   “Especially if I have a heavy carb load where I give myself a lot of insulin with dinner,” Carlyle said. “I may be being a little over-paranoid. But I’d rather do that than have something happen.”

   Yes, the guy is being diligent. And I think that’s good.

   Carlyle said he’s had some great support from those around him – like Vazquez, who has a daughter with Type I diabetes and more recently Gwinnett trainier Mike Graus, who happens to be diabetic himself.

   Anyway, Carlyle’s spirits are good. He’s pitching well. And I’d think he’ll be up in September and contributing.

 

OK, more from the ballpark in a bit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

2,028 comments Add your comment

matt k

August 17th, 2009
11:45 am

any word on the Atlanta lineup for today?

Stanley

August 17th, 2009
11:46 am

Soph

August 17th, 2009
11:50 am

Thanks for the new blog Carroll!

Hanson, pudgy? :lol: I just can’t picture it.

Mid Town Joe

August 17th, 2009
11:55 am

Snickers Bars? You made me go and find a bio from the Braves website:

The 2009 season marks Brian Snitkers third as the Clubs third base coach and his seventh overall in three stints on the Braves major league coaching staff. His two previous stints with the major league staff came as bullpen coach in 1985 and again from 1988 to 1990.
Snitker managed at Triple-A Richmond in 2006 after spending four seasons as the skipper of the clubs Double-A affiliate in Greenville (2002-04) and Mississippi (2005).

Snitker, 53, joined the organization as a player in 1977 and has been with the Braves in a variety of roles ever since. The former catcher spent four seasons as a player. He retired at the conclusion of the 1980 season and began his coaching career as a roving instructor for the Braves in 1981. Snitker took his first managerial job in 1982, with Anderson of the South Atlantic League.

Following a three-year stint with the major league club, he returned to minor league coaching in 1991 and moved back into managing in 1992 with Macon. He coached in the Atlanta system from 1993 to 95, and again served as a minor league manager from 1996 to 2006.

In his 17 seasons as a manager, he compiled an overall record of 1,140-1,145 (.499). Five of his clubs advanced to postseason play, and he won two league championships (back-to-back titles with Myrtle Beach in 1999-2000) and two league Manager of the Year Awards (also in the Carolina League in 1999-2000).

An Illinois native, Snitker played college baseball at the University of New Orleans before signing with the Braves as a non-drafted free agent in 1977. Snitker and his wife Veronica reside in Lilburn, Ga., with their children, Erin and Troy.

Blackbird

August 17th, 2009
11:58 am

Once again, the demon that was Bobby Cox for 14 years has awakened. He should be referred to as the ultimate “Marathon Man”, since he manages every game as part of the season long marathon, never altering his style to reflect spur of the moment hot or cold streaks or batters who are on a tear. He would rather say that over the course of 162 games, Howard won’t hurt you any more than the next guy, oblivious to the fact that THIS WEEKEND, Howard’s going to rip your heart out! How often have we seen this play out, where one guy continually rakes us over the coals and Cox never changes his approach to the batter?

superadam

August 17th, 2009
12:00 pm

HuffBraves

August 17th, 2009
12:01 pm

“And he’s learning how to pitch with his diabetes.” – CR

Wait until Ryan Howard has to face Carlyle’s patented “Diabetes-ball” in September!

pinkygonzales

August 17th, 2009
12:07 pm

Carroll

okay, i know it will never happen. i know that bobby is going to stick with Norton for the rest of the year for some reason. But I was wondering if there has been any talk of sending Norton out or down and bringing up Gregor Blanco. Blanco could hit lead off and play a better centerfield than Church, although Church hasn’t been a liability, really. But more to the point, having Blanco fill in for McClouth on the days that he is out allows us to keep the line-up intact. The problem with last series was offense. We scored seven runs over three days, and we were lucky get the two we got in the ninth on Saturday. I think we need to have consistency in the line-up and Blanco would give it to us. Thoughts?

Lew

August 17th, 2009
12:08 pm

Carroll-If you see Buddy again, let him know that he found the righ5t way to go. That Snickers is loaded with peanuts-the second lowest food on the Glycemic index (right after prickly pear cactus). What that means is that peanuts are slower to push glucose into the bloodstream and they let the sugar in it raise the Blood Sugar just enough and the peanuts keep it from spiking. NO peanuts and you get a higher spike, which is what you try to avoid. Diabetes control is a see saw. YOu have to balance the highs with the lows. HIghs will get you longer term, low blood sugar will lay you out quickly.

BravesFAN885

August 17th, 2009
12:09 pm

It kind of seems like the guys are subconsciously giving in to fatigue and giving up a little bit here. Some of those at-bats last night looked like last year’s team – that is, they seemed unmotivated. I hope I’m wrong, but it seems like we may have conceded the season somewhat, and are looking to 2010. I mean, Chipper flat-out said that a week or so ago, right? That they were mostly looking beyond this season, and that whatever happens is “gravy”?

Jimv

August 17th, 2009
12:11 pm

I’ve been a type-1 diabetic for 52 years and am very impressed by Buddy’s battle, especially as a pro pitcher. I’ll be rooting for him and eating those Snickers, my secret for control, too.

VaBravesfan

August 17th, 2009
12:12 pm

I have a nine-year old daughter who is type-1 (insulin dependent) diabetic. Buddy Carlyle, I know your battles and you have my sympathy. Good luck as you try to make it back to the major leagues.

VaBravesfan

August 17th, 2009
12:14 pm

As do you, Jimv.

monty

August 17th, 2009
12:16 pm

Before the Braves play the Phillies again they might want to look at film on how the Gaints and the Dodgers pitch to Mr. Ryan Howard. They make him look like RAfael Belliard. Less than .500 OPS and less than .300 slugging aginst them. Hard to believe.

Original Jon

August 17th, 2009
12:17 pm

BravesFAN885, what are you talking about conceded the season already???? We are 3.5 games out in the WC and only 6 in the Division with 46 games left. They lost, no biggie, pick the pieces up today and win.

Jerry

August 17th, 2009
12:22 pm

We’ll ck the heart level today

brent a.

August 17th, 2009
12:22 pm

remember, a win today assures us of being 3 GB in the WC.

phily fanatic

August 17th, 2009
12:25 pm

thats right braves fans do not lose faith you might be good again in 2020 or not. i love your team speed!

braves4ever

August 17th, 2009
12:26 pm

outa here guys off to the Ted, got rain makeup tickets from May, going to a possible rain day , isn’t that sweet. A win wipes out all the frustration, GO BRAVES

McFann Ô

August 17th, 2009
12:29 pm

Thanks for the new Blog, Ms. Rogers, especially the news on Buddy! Glad he’s doing well and I hope to see him back in the Bigs and pitching well soon!

Mid Town Joe

August 17th, 2009
12:31 pm

Rain for the Rain-out.

Lew

August 17th, 2009
12:33 pm

Unmotivated? Have you even read what DOB wrote this week about what the players thought of their chances in the pennant race?

People, we lost a couple of games because we didn’t have timely hitting-partially because we lost our hottest hitter to heat related issues and our center fielder’s leg is hurting. We held quite possibly the best hitting team in all of MLB to ten runs in a three game series. We COULD have won at least one more of those games without a stretch of the imagination.

Time to move on to today’s game and to realize that no matter how the season ends, we’re already about eight games better than this time last year. That’s a great improvement-AND we’re still in the race.

Pete

August 17th, 2009
12:34 pm

Original Jon: “BravesFAN885, what are you talking about conceded the season already???? We are 3.5 games out in the WC and only 6 in the Division with 46 games left. They lost, no biggie, pick the pieces up today and win.”
Jon, even though only 3.5 out in the WC, the problem is there are 3 teams ahead of Braves (with a 4th tied with Braves). Its a mountain to climb, vs. being 3.5 behind just 1 team.

Lew

August 17th, 2009
12:37 pm

VaBravesFan-I just got a 6.6 on my HGA1C. What Buddy is doing is so much harder than most people have any realization of. It’s difficult enough for most of us, but with an athlete and the extra physical output makes it all the worse. Dude deserves some cheers when he returns. He went through an ordeal, without a doubt.

Mid Town Joe

August 17th, 2009
12:40 pm

You’re right Pete. The best that can happen is swapping wins with other decent teams.

Lew

August 17th, 2009
12:42 pm

Pete-So we should all give up and become convinced we have no chance at all because there are three teams ahead of us? You like pointing out the failures of the past-how about some of the successes? What about ‘91? How many teams did we have to come from behind there? Did you or anyone else think we stood a chance then?

How about the Phillies coming from behind the much stronger Mets two successive years? Didn’t they have 7 1/2 games to make up in the division race?

You’re right. Couldn’t happen, could it?

Pete

August 17th, 2009
12:44 pm

Lew: “Time to move on to today’s game and to realize that no matter how the season ends, we’re already about eight games better than this time last year. That’s a great improvement-AND we’re still in the race.”
Very true, and 2010 looks much more promising to me!

Diabetic Moron

August 17th, 2009
12:45 pm

“Especially if I have a heavy carb load where I give myself a lot of insulin with dinner,”

Not a good idea to carbo load with diabetes. Isn’t that Day 1 of learning what not to do?

Lew

August 17th, 2009
12:46 pm

Pete-It does to me, too, but I’m not rerady to concede anything yet and I seriously doubt the BRaves are, either.

scott

August 17th, 2009
12:47 pm

Carroll, can you please go give this lineup to Bobby?…

McLouth
Prado
Chipper
LaRoche
McCann
Escobar
Anderson
Diaz
Hanson

bruce

August 17th, 2009
12:48 pm

Carroll, Thanks so much for the update on Buddy. So glad to hear he is both coping well and pitching well. I hope he can really tune it through August and be a real help in September, an innings eater to give the others guys some rest. My bet is he will surprise alot of folks with his consistency and effectiveness in whatever role he gets in September.
Thanks Bruce

balla1881

August 17th, 2009
12:49 pm

The braves need a shot in the arm. Maybe if they called someone up from the minors that would have a major impact right away. They cant continue to be a halfway above average team and expect to catch the Phillies or expect a team with as much talent as the Cubs to not get hot eventually.
Or they need to keep playing well and hope something good will happen such as Chipper starts playing like he’s capable of. If that happens then thats the shot in the arm they need. I personally think Chip and BMac are tired. A couple more days off would be nice for both of them. The problem is they cant afford to take them off because the Braves may be out of it over just 3-4 days. I know that this team can win and will win.
Maybe they just need some B12…..

Pete

August 17th, 2009
12:49 pm

Lew: “Pete-So we should all give up and become convinced we have no chance at all because there are three teams ahead of us?”
No Lew and I never said that; try and avoid putting words in my mouth, pls. In ‘91 I dont believe we had to come from behind more than 1 team late in the year (LA) which is exactly my point. In fact that year started out 12-0 or something close as I recall. Again the Phillies had to come from behind only 1 team (Mets) in your example, not 2 or 3.
People have different opinions on here re: Braves chances, so you just have to get used to not everyone agreeing with you.

flange1

August 17th, 2009
12:51 pm

Afternoon All,

Carroll, nice new blog, and a great article on Buddy C. I will agree with Lew that coping with type 1 diabetes is a tough job for a regular person and MUCH harder for an athelete. Good luck Buddy!

Also, the Frenchy article was quite good!

Seemed to me like playoff baseball this weekend, 2 good teams playing and we had 3 well pitched games on both sides.

Braves played well, juts did not hit the good Phillies pitching.

No matter what the idiot Vales wants to say, the division is not over and the Wild Card is still up for grabs.

Juts have to go back to traditional Braves baseball, continue winning series and we will be right in the thick of both races.

Lew

August 17th, 2009
12:52 pm

They need a shot in the arm? Why? Is the entire team diabetic?

Wasn’t that 8 of ten streak and the best NL record since the end of June enough of a motivational force? Maybe a waiver claim reject or a call up of a barely 20 year old rookie with no serious experience would do it. Ya think?

VaBravesfan

August 17th, 2009
12:53 pm

Lew, that is awesome. My daughter usually gets high 5’s,low 6’s but the doc says that is too low for a child. She gets 8 finger pricks and 4 injections per day in addition to feeling crappy most of the time.

matt k

August 17th, 2009
12:53 pm

Do we have atlanta lineup yet?

Wes

August 17th, 2009
12:54 pm

I love the announcers the last couple of days saying, “The Braves are just trying to find ways to rest McCann.”

Here’s the solution—–are you ready for this?—–SIT HIM FOR A DAY!!!

OMG, has david ross even held a bat in his hands since July? If Mac is so tired, give the guy a day off. There’s no way Ross can swing any worse than Mac has the last 3 weeks anyway.

Not to mention, the Braves had 2 off days last week before the Phills series, so I’d love to know how “tired” he actually was.

Lew

August 17th, 2009
12:56 pm

Pete-I know you’re a literalist and I should address each and every word you throw out there on it’s own, but maybe you’re just not cognizant of the negative tone of your posts? All you seem to talk about is what happened when we lost the third game of the season and how many teams we would have to jump over to do anything positive this year.

No, you haven’t said in those exact words that the Braves are out of it, but the general tone and context of your posts indicates that is exactly what’s on your mind. You don’t even need to read between the lines.

Frankie Wren

August 17th, 2009
12:56 pm

They do need a shot in the arm. Our top 2 guys need to get on base. The 6th inning is why the Phils are so good. The tablesetters got on for the big boys. It may be time to see if LaRoche can provide some pop up in order. I don’t care if he strikes out 3 times if he can hit a 3 run bomb from time to time. Chipper has 37 HR’s in last 800 at bats. We need a bomb threat to follow him.

Rock On......the denizen formerly known as Dadgum

August 17th, 2009
12:57 pm

Call someone up from the minors? What a great idea! Hey Frank and Bobby, what do you think? Think Atlanta could use Conrad, Heyward, and Shaefer right about now? Nah, guess you are right as always. I mean we do have Norton and KJ so what more do we need.

nemov

August 17th, 2009
12:57 pm

When it comes right down to it we’re just not good enough. We have great starting pitching and an unreliable bullpen (16 blown saves). Our offense is at best average. I’ve said all season we’re a season or two away from being legitimate World Series contenders.

Frankie Wren

August 17th, 2009
12:58 pm

Wes

Agreed. Ross is probably as capable of a backup as their is and he plays on Sunday afternoons. SHAKE IT UP MAN!

Mid Town Joe

August 17th, 2009
12:58 pm

MFin04

August 17th, 2009
12:59 pm

At this point I’d rather see Greg Norton playing left field for Garret Anderson and David Ross catching instead of McCann.

Frankie Wren

August 17th, 2009
12:59 pm

Oh yeah Ross is RH hitter which we are sorely lacking against all the lefties we face.

Lew

August 17th, 2009
12:59 pm

VaBravesFan-Juvenile diabetes is a terrible thing for any child to endure. I wish your daughter the best. Growing bodies and changing hormones are enough to deal with on their own, but when your blood sugar does a constant schizoid act on your body, it’s amazing that the kids can deal with it at all. I’m betting she’ll grow up strong , totally organized and have great control of her life because of it.

Original Jon

August 17th, 2009
1:02 pm

Mid Town Joe, I got a good chuckle from that one, thanks man.

Lew

August 17th, 2009
1:03 pm

Pete-Get used to not everyone agreeing with me? After five years on the blog you think you’re the first to disagree with me? Seriously?

Besides-same might be said of you.

Rock On......the denizen formerly known as Dadgum

August 17th, 2009
1:03 pm

Lew….I am not giving up on the Braves either. Kinda want to see it play out but it will be interesting to see the Sept. 1st moves. I am counting on nothing from Hudson this year but I am counting on seeing the big bats from the minors arrive to add lumber to the bench. It is the only real chance we have assuming the pitching remains great. Regardless, I am not counting on the WC. It is Phillies or bust.

Steve from OH

August 17th, 2009
1:03 pm

Frankie–yeah, Rollins has been doing a great job of setting the table for the Phillies this year…

[Rolls eyes]

Original Jon

August 17th, 2009
1:03 pm

MFin04, Apparently you are either really racist or stereotypical.

Which is it?

Wes

August 17th, 2009
1:04 pm

With all the complaining the Braves organization is doing about McCann not getting a rest, I cannot fathom why he didn’t sit against either Hamels or Happ.

Steve from OH

August 17th, 2009
1:04 pm

Original Jon–he’s just and idiot. That’s all you need to know.

Frankie Wren

August 17th, 2009
1:05 pm

One more thing while I am venting. Do we have anybody that’s hit a Grand Slam this year???????? I don’t think so. Time for that to end as well, hopefully this afternoon.

JoeandBoog

August 17th, 2009
1:05 pm

Free Heyward

Lew

August 17th, 2009
1:06 pm

Shamus-Better to eat those Snickers than to drink soda-either with sugar or diet. They’re finding now that the consumption of it can lead to diabetes.

DAP

August 17th, 2009
1:07 pm

brian mccann had 3 days off last week. thats probably why he didnt get a break in the phillies series.

RHR

August 17th, 2009
1:08 pm

Paging cab or Vinings Jim … either of you around?

Frankie Wren

August 17th, 2009
1:08 pm

Steve from OH,

He may be struggling this year but I’ll take him down the stretch over just about everybody else who leads off. Also, Victorino has been money so their lineup feeds off those guys.

Rock On......the denizen formerly known as Dadgum

August 17th, 2009
1:08 pm

Oh yeah, and all it would have taken was a singles hitter to plate 4 runs in the first 5 innings against Philly yesterday. Let’s not get all hyped up and forget about the little things like driving in runners in scoring position. While the Braves rank 2nd in the NL in that category, it cost them the game yesterday. We still need big bats off the bench but during the game we need to keep producing at a .275 clip with runners in scoring position.

PattyCakeMan

August 17th, 2009
1:09 pm

Where can I find a list of draftees that have signed? Are the Braves going to sign any mid round high school guys (lure them away from playing college ball)? Thanks.

Pete

August 17th, 2009
1:09 pm

Lew: “Pete-
No, you haven’t said in those exact words that the Braves are out of it, but the general tone and context of your posts indicates that is exactly what’s on your mind. You don’t even need to read between the lines.”
Lew, explain to me if you would what is wrong with having an opinion that the Braves will not make the playoffs this year (other than you disagree with that opinion)? Is that opinion not allowed until/if the Braves are mathematically eliminated? Obviously the Braves are still in it and anything is possible, but the question for me is what is PROBABLE, not possible. Thanks.

Mid Town Joe

August 17th, 2009
1:10 pm

I can’t believe the Farve watch is on again in Minnesota.

Wes

August 17th, 2009
1:10 pm

DAP – if thats the case, then the Braves office needs to shut their mouths about him being tired.

TommyP

August 17th, 2009
1:10 pm

Escobar seems to be fighting it a bit as well. 1 for his last 14.

Read an interesting stat the other day…Marcus Thames is one of the fastest players to ever reach 100 homers in terms of games played.

I’m pretty sure that was a name bandied about on here during the offseason.

Lew

August 17th, 2009
1:11 pm

Dagum-Preach it Bro. I’m not worrying about the WC either. There’s still plenty of time and games, as well as plenty of past instances of it happening before to want to call us out of it yet.

Beats me how we’ve played so well over the past six weeks and won 8 of the past 11-staying in all the games we lost, as well-that we can get so upset over a 3 game series that could easily have gone the other way.

Good thing the braves don’t dwell on past losses like some of the Denizens here. Then they’d REALLY not stand a chance this year-or ever.

RHR's Sis

August 17th, 2009
1:11 pm

RHR, I think you got on Lentz’s nerves last night, GG. You found his weakness, keep it up sis.

MFin04

August 17th, 2009
1:12 pm

I’m surprised no one has said anything about Frenchy being going and McCann struggling. Maybe losing your best friend on the team put him into a funk, I don’t really think so, but it is a possibility.

matt k

August 17th, 2009
1:13 pm

Atlanta Lineup?

puckylin

August 17th, 2009
1:13 pm

Is there any reason why Gonzalez did not pitch to Howard in Game 1 instead of Soriano. Are we so stuck on the script (Gonzalez pitches one inning, then bring in the closer) that common sense goes out the window – Howard is a fast ball hitter who feasts on right handers. Howard is batting in the 100’s versus lefties. Couldn’t we have gone off script and let Gonzalez get one more out? This isnb’t second guessing Bobby – it just looked like the obvious move…

Lew

August 17th, 2009
1:13 pm

Pete-And what, pray tell, is so wrong with me not holding the same opinion? You act like it’s your own private domain. Works both ways Dude. You don’t hold the copyright on opinion holding. I’m allowed to disagree with you same as you can choose another opinion yourself.

David O'Brien

August 17th, 2009
1:14 pm

HuffBraves, that 12:01 post made me laugh. In fact, I’m still laughing while typing this. Love the smell of irreverence in the morning (it feels like morning, after getting home from ballpark at 2:15 a.m. and going to sleep about 4 a.m.)

Just dropped in to note: MLB network is showing Gwinnett-Pawtucket game at 2 p.m. today, our man Adam Liberman at the Braves media relations dept. informs me. OK, carry on….

DAP

August 17th, 2009
1:16 pm

wesif thats the case, then the Braves office needs to shut their mouths about him being tired.

i guessed i missed that, i havent heard of wren saying that. he does catch alot of games…but he got several days off this week…i think thats why he didnt get one during the phillies series.

Lew

August 17th, 2009
1:16 pm

Pete-And one more thing maybe you need to realize- if you post something here in this public forum, then anyone here can respond to what you said. Just because you procalim something to be so, doesn’t make it that way. If someone disagrees with you, count on hearing about it. It comes with the territory.

RHR

August 17th, 2009
1:16 pm

Sis? Wha? I didn’t do anything to him…?

Vinings Jim

August 17th, 2009
1:16 pm

RHR – I am here

Pete

August 17th, 2009
1:16 pm

Lew: “Pete-And what, pray tell, is so wrong with me not holding the same opinion? You act like it’s your own private domain. Works both ways Dude. You don’t hold the copyright on opinion holding. I’m allowed to disagree with you same as you can choose another opinion yourself.”
Obviously theres nothing wrong with your opinion and I respect your’s and others, but I dont personally ridicule you for it, as you do me. Thats the difference.

RHR

August 17th, 2009
1:18 pm

Hi Jim. Did I just see you on someone’s facebook? I am in shock here, I thought you were kidding? When was this? The Dodgers series?!

Anders

August 17th, 2009
1:18 pm

How about the Phillies coming from behind the much stronger Mets two successive years? (Lew)

Now that’s an interesting choice of words. Your thoughts on the Mets collapsing aside I still don’t remember you agreeing with me about their strength. As a matter of fact I recall you screaming that they were a flawed team. Old, bullpen short etc. etc..

Has time changed your view on Minaya’s creation or does calling them a “much stronger” team than the eventual WS winners just fit your needs today?

Steve from OH

August 17th, 2009
1:19 pm

RHR–apparently you didn’t see his, um, “posting” to you last night. Probably good you didn’t. He’s an a-hole, all you need to know.

Vinings Jim

August 17th, 2009
1:20 pm

Why would I kid anyone? But, say no more or I’ll get in trouble.. ;)

If the question is, did I see the Dodgers play the Braves one of the last few weekends, the answer is yes

Pete

August 17th, 2009
1:21 pm

Lew: Pete-And one more thing maybe you need to realize- if you post something here in this public forum, then anyone here can respond to what you said. Just because you procalim something to be so, doesn’t make it that way. If someone disagrees with you, count on hearing about it. It comes with the territory.
Never an issue with me Lew; thats the purpose of this blog I always assumed. Responding is one thing; personal ridicule something else.

Steve from OH

August 17th, 2009
1:21 pm

Good pitching matchup for the Rome Braves game tonight for all you prospect-huggers in the audience: Teheran vs. Hagadone.

cabravesfan

August 17th, 2009
1:22 pm

RHR-

Hey girl :)

RHR's Sis

August 17th, 2009
1:23 pm

Hey cabravesfan :)

RHR

August 17th, 2009
1:25 pm

Thats great, Jim! :D Add me on there if you want.

Steve – darn..I hate I missed that. :roll:

Yunel Asscobar

August 17th, 2009
1:25 pm

McFann – where are the turtle’s legs? In the shell, or was there an accident?

Shamus Thacker

August 17th, 2009
1:26 pm

Y’all notice how emotionally flat we were these past three games? Same thing happened in the post-season several times. I know there are too many games for players to remain sky-high throughout, but my Gawd, this was the biggest series to date. There should have been a little extra spark for this one; 110% effort should have been clearly evident. Didn’t see it, at all.

Baseball is a marathon, a manager can’t give a “win one for the Gipper” speach before every game. BUT, there are times when extra motivation is in order. This series was one of those times. I don’t believe Bobby is capable of emotionally inspiring this team, I don’t believe he ever was. It’s like I’ve told y’all ten times before, when Justice left the fire was gone. It never rekindled.

RHR

August 17th, 2009
1:26 pm

Oh hi cab, you are going to get a kick out of my fb note lol – sorry, i was shocked.

Who is my sis?

cabravesfan

August 17th, 2009
1:26 pm

RHR-

Did you miss our dear friend Paul’s comment about you last night?

Lew

August 17th, 2009
1:27 pm

Pete-You need to spend a lot more time here if you actually believe I’m ridiculing you. That’s not happening. I disagreed with you and said as much several times. Big deal. You don;t agree, but I’M not upset. It’s your opinion I disagree with-not you as a human. Never once have I told you that you should leave, or post something different, nor did I call you And Idiot (blog vernacular so you don’t tell me I misspelled it), or honestly, anything but Pete..

Dude, if you can’t take dialogue from others, or their differing opinions, then you probably won’t enjoy your time here.

Yes, to me you’re one of the more negative posters around-so is N8 (Nathan). However, he and I still manage to respect each others’ opinions and even email back and forth despite rare agreeing on a damned thing-AND give each other a bit of good natured grief.

You’ve exhibited an extremely thin skin since you started posting. You might want to remedy that. Not every disagreement needs to be a personal issue like it seems to be with you. MOst of the time, it’s just a disagreement and you know what they say about opinions and certain body parts, don’t you?

N8

August 17th, 2009
1:28 pm

From the other blog:

“but im happy with how this team has been playing, and if they win 90 games and dont make the playoffs, i will tip my cap…and though i wont be satisfied, i will be pleased with 90 wins. that would be a heck of a turn around from a season ago.” DAP

Completely agree. I’ve been very pleased with the way the’ve played ball since the break. How could you not be? That being said, DOB stated that the Braves players called the Phillies series “BIG” (and that word was in the header of that particular blog), and they came out flat and got beat 2 out of 3. Doesn’t mean they’ll fall flat on their face and collapse. But it means, on a small scale, they choked in a series where they had a chance to gain ground.

But yes. With or without the playoffs, if this team wins 88-90 games, I’ll be very pleased with the progress made compared to last year.

“This season, so far, Vazquez has been the ace. Does anyone realistically expect any quality starting pitcher to throw 35 error-free games? What about all the solid games Vazquez pitched when he didn’t get run support?…Because Vazquez lost last night, does that really diminish the excellent contribution he’s made all season?…Is Jurrjens less of a talent or a contributor because he’s had a mild slump?” Jeff R

No. I don’t expect that. However, since so many people want to call Vazquez the Ace of the staff, and want to say that Ozzie Guillen was crazy for publicly stating that he WOULDN’T want him pitching in a big game (like the rubber game of a series against the team your chasing for the division title), I find it amusing that Vazquez failed to make quality pitches on such a big stage.

I think Guillen is right. Even though Vazquez has enjoyed a career year, he’s just not a big game pitcher, and likely never will be.

I hope he proves me wrong. But to be fair, it appears that Chipper and McCann could step up a tad as well and help do some damage against the Phils, huh?

Steve from OH

August 17th, 2009
1:28 pm

Dang…and I could go to that game tonight to if I didn’t have something else to do…

:(

McFann Ô

August 17th, 2009
1:28 pm

Wes I love the announcers the last couple of days saying, “The Braves are just trying to find ways to rest McCann.”

I got a good laugh outta that one.

MFin04

This slump started before Francoeur got traded. I actually gave the numbers to you the other day when you asked me for them…don’t know if you ever saw them…

As a matter of fact, just after they traded Jeff, BMac went on a little bit of a hot streak–and 11-game hitting streak during which he hit .321 with a .345 OBP, a .566 SLG, 2 HR, 7 2B, 14 RBI, 3 BB, 9 K’s, and 2 SF.

RHR

August 17th, 2009
1:29 pm

I guess I missed it, I haven’t had time to go back and read anything but we all know he’s nuts so whatever!

Shamus Thacker

August 17th, 2009
1:30 pm

We pounded Lentz for disrespecting you RHR.

McFann Ô

August 17th, 2009
1:30 pm

Rally McTurtle’s legs are in his shell…guess he’s a little “fatigued”, too…

McFann Ô

August 17th, 2009
1:31 pm

RHR

Yeah, we all love you!

Lew

August 17th, 2009
1:32 pm

Pete-There are several regulars on the blog right now and they all know me relatively well. RHR, N8, Steve, and Flange-You’re as aware of posts here on the MIB blog as anyone. Have I ridiculed Pete?

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