Rob, why does Arthur B come to mind? Does Turner even have the wealth to reacquire the team? I have to say our payroll isn’t bad considering a corporation owns the team in a recession. At least they haven’t turned us into the Marlins.
I believe so – assuming the lineup cards were never exchanged. If that’s the case, when the visiting team is not in town for the last time, the decision remains with the home team.
You need more elite players than just Heyward. Chipper is old and McCann is a catcher. Escobar is pretty good too, but that isn’t like the Philles or Mets who have Utley, Howard, Rollins, Victorino, Werth, Ibanez, Beltran, Reyes, Wright, Hamels, Lee, Johan, K-Rod, Lidge.
Yes they designed with a 1% slope from shallow center field towards all boundries. The infield has no slope. COMPLETELY FLAT. As well as a arterial drainage pattern 2′ underground.
Is there anyway ESPN can be banned from carrying Braves games from now on? I hate Morgan, Phillips, and Miller… Plus this 8pm junk is for the birds on Sundays… Especially when there’s a freakin rain delay!
Yeah, but who says all the players you just listed were “elite”. McCann, Chipper, Escobar, Heyward is a pretty strong core. Add to it McLouth, Prado, Schafer and Freeman and that’s pretty darn good. With the depth of the starting pitching, no real reason why they can’t make the playoffs. Then it’s a crapshoot. And as much as I really like those other players(Schafer, Freeman, Prado, and McLouth), that may not be the team that it turns out to be. Wren can switch it up a bit. I hope “switch it up” doesn’t mean making moves that don’t make sense, but it’s not a certainty that THIS is the team that needs to win it all.
DP…….If Jason Heyward had been playing at Triple A for a couple of months, I could understand your argument. However, Heyward has only been at Double A for a little more than a month. Dude just turned 21. I see no problem with leaving him in Double A for the rest of the season…….do the Arizona fall league thing……play some games in Spring Training…..and then start off the season in Triple A.
If he rakes at the plate in Triple A like Tommy Hanson pitched, then call him up in June.
Also, if the Braves were to sign a “stop gap” player in the off season to play right field until they are ready to call up Heyward…….Frank Wren can always trade the player he got to play right field in mid-season. The Braves do not have to “eat” that salary.
Frank Wren has shown that he can be creative and not afraid to pull the trigger on a trade.
Steve from OH……….calling Jason Heyward up right now would not make sense PERIOD, regardless of the economics of it. The Braves have a plethora of outfielders who are doing a decent job.
I’m confident that Frank Wren will do the right thing and not rush Heyward to the Majors.
About 3-4 weeks ago some (on ESPN, of course) were suggesting that the NL division leader to least likely lose their lead would have been the Phillies…. As of right now, they are the team with the smallest division lead in the league. (The moves STL has made sure has panned out…they may end up with the largest division lead…)
I have never bashed you or called you names, but that ends now. Diory Hernandez is hitting over .360 at Triple A and he sucks. If Heyward was hitting between .270 and .300 then I would say he needs to see triple A. His numbers are unbelievable. I think he would be lket down by getting called up to Gwinnett instead of Atlanta. He said in a interview that his goal from the day he signed that he wanted to be in the bigs by 09. He deserves to be called up because of the way he plays.
I didn’t like that Posnanski list at all. He ranked Soriano and Vazquez higher than McCann. (Efrim)
Ok, no not just younger players but that is often what you comment on. I just threw in that Pos list to tease McFann. She expressed disdain as she should have.
Is John Miller having a stroke?
Spit it out, man. Geez. What in the world did he just say?
John Miller is to baseball announcing as John Madden is to football announcing. The most annoying part about Miller is he always tries to put his own little twist on the Latin players names like he is fluent with them. Take Furcal for example, Miller pronounces his name Raphael Furcal (Like the Ninja turtle Raphael) and his last name as in Fercal instead of what it truly is. I wish he would give it up already. He and that Kenny Albert that sounds like he has a **** stuck in his mouth.
Rob from SC………….Professional baseball is a BUSINESS. “Deserves” has nothing to do with it. The Braves are going to do what is in their best interest economically, while trying to field a competitive team.
Turnabout is fair play. While a number of you were crying when the Victorino ball hit the bag……….you all jumped for joy when that LINER by Utley went right to Escobar to double up Victorino.
To be honest, I wasnt worried when Victorino got that lucky double. Sh!T happens. Sometimes a pitcher has to work around some bad luck.
Do you honestly think I care if some smart ass former career minor league catcher is “nice” to me or not?
No. But you should care if he disagrees with you. If he does, chances are that you’re wrong. But you are either too stubborn to admit it or too impervious to notice. Either that, or you can’t allow a healthy dose of reality into your vitriol. Take your pick, it doesn’t matter to me.
Even if the Braves lose tonight (they aren’t!), I think they will be leading the wild card “division” two weeks from now. Just looking at schedules. If they have to DL McLouth, they should bring up the best replacement.
Braves have a very real chance to make the post-season this year. It would be a crime if they threw Gregor Blanco out there for 10-12 games when they could be making up ground.
I read that Schafer was out of the cast and presumably is starting to get ready to play. Brandon Jones was apparently doing better in the second half. But, if the Braves think that Heyward is the best option, he should get the call over the others, damn the long term cost.
Meanwhile, the Reaper gets a lucky double by hitting the first base bag, but immediately gets erased on a liner / tag out double play.
blasphemy!!! actually i like him too. don’t always agree with him but I like him better than most. but then I like Sutton too. Really miss Pete though. The best there was IMO at least as far as Braves games
kelevra- agree. you could put a rocking chair, a log, and a can of peas in the booth and it would be vastly more intelligent and entertaining broadcasting than i am hearing right now
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woogidy
August 16th, 2009
9:32 pm
frankie
http://www.varicore.com/Menu/athletic_field_installation.html
Frankie Knuckles
August 16th, 2009
9:33 pm
Rob, why does Arthur B come to mind? Does Turner even have the wealth to reacquire the team? I have to say our payroll isn’t bad considering a corporation owns the team in a recession. At least they haven’t turned us into the Marlins.
Gwinnett Fred
August 16th, 2009
9:33 pm
Heath:
I believe so – assuming the lineup cards were never exchanged. If that’s the case, when the visiting team is not in town for the last time, the decision remains with the home team.
braves4ever
August 16th, 2009
9:34 pm
CrimeDog , that 9:25 was to good
Jimmy Joe
August 16th, 2009
9:34 pm
You need more elite players than just Heyward. Chipper is old and McCann is a catcher. Escobar is pretty good too, but that isn’t like the Philles or Mets who have Utley, Howard, Rollins, Victorino, Werth, Ibanez, Beltran, Reyes, Wright, Hamels, Lee, Johan, K-Rod, Lidge.
nycbravesfan
August 16th, 2009
9:34 pm
fred,
Yes they designed with a 1% slope from shallow center field towards all boundries. The infield has no slope. COMPLETELY FLAT. As well as a arterial drainage pattern 2′ underground.
Rob from SC
August 16th, 2009
9:34 pm
Frankie Knuckles
We will need all the money possible to keep Escobar, Hanson, Heyward, McCann in the coming years.
Frankie Knuckles
August 16th, 2009
9:35 pm
woogidy,
I am now entertained! Thx bro! I worked in landscaping and irrigation for a while and this sort of thing interests me.
Jman
August 16th, 2009
9:37 pm
Is there anyway ESPN can be banned from carrying Braves games from now on? I hate Morgan, Phillips, and Miller… Plus this 8pm junk is for the birds on Sundays… Especially when there’s a freakin rain delay!
Efrim
August 16th, 2009
9:40 pm
You need more elite players than just Heyward.
Yeah, but who says all the players you just listed were “elite”. McCann, Chipper, Escobar, Heyward is a pretty strong core. Add to it McLouth, Prado, Schafer and Freeman and that’s pretty darn good. With the depth of the starting pitching, no real reason why they can’t make the playoffs. Then it’s a crapshoot. And as much as I really like those other players(Schafer, Freeman, Prado, and McLouth), that may not be the team that it turns out to be. Wren can switch it up a bit. I hope “switch it up” doesn’t mean making moves that don’t make sense, but it’s not a certainty that THIS is the team that needs to win it all.
Paul Lentz
August 16th, 2009
9:40 pm
DP…….If Jason Heyward had been playing at Triple A for a couple of months, I could understand your argument. However, Heyward has only been at Double A for a little more than a month. Dude just turned 21. I see no problem with leaving him in Double A for the rest of the season…….do the Arizona fall league thing……play some games in Spring Training…..and then start off the season in Triple A.
If he rakes at the plate in Triple A like Tommy Hanson pitched, then call him up in June.
Also, if the Braves were to sign a “stop gap” player in the off season to play right field until they are ready to call up Heyward…….Frank Wren can always trade the player he got to play right field in mid-season. The Braves do not have to “eat” that salary.
Frank Wren has shown that he can be creative and not afraid to pull the trigger on a trade.
nycbravesfan
August 16th, 2009
9:40 pm
I actually like steve phillips, he gives great inbiased analysis
MItchie-san
August 16th, 2009
9:42 pm
“It sure is nice to live on the West Coast. It’s only 6:15pm out here. Dont have to worry about staying up too late.”
It works for me even better. Not to rub it in, but it aint even 1600 out here yet…
kelevra
August 16th, 2009
9:42 pm
inbiased?
nolie
August 16th, 2009
9:42 pm
you didn’t comment on the original posting other than to throw insults around.. (JEFF321)
hey, you’re the one who made the idiotic statement that I quoted. .and I’m always much nicer to you than I think you deserve dude.
Ryan
August 16th, 2009
9:42 pm
game on!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brian the Brain
August 16th, 2009
9:43 pm
Ok here we go….so do we play for the early run?
La Jolla Dawg
August 16th, 2009
9:43 pm
Looks like a fair amount of people stayed through the rain delay.
Mixxo
August 16th, 2009
9:43 pm
Ugh….not the ugly red unis.
Paul Lentz
August 16th, 2009
9:44 pm
Steve from OH……….calling Jason Heyward up right now would not make sense PERIOD, regardless of the economics of it. The Braves have a plethora of outfielders who are doing a decent job.
I’m confident that Frank Wren will do the right thing and not rush Heyward to the Majors.
McFann :Ô:
August 16th, 2009
9:44 pm
Mixxo–
“Har har HARdy har har!”
braves4ever
August 16th, 2009
9:44 pm
time to kick some philly butts
Shamus Thacker
August 16th, 2009
9:44 pm
Paul Lentz: “”njbraves……….whatever dude. The Braves arent going to make a move that would cost them millions of dollars, just to appease you.”"
Lentz, I’m sure you’ll be surprised to learn that njbraves is the CEO of Liberty Media.
Heath
August 16th, 2009
9:44 pm
About 3-4 weeks ago some (on ESPN, of course) were suggesting that the NL division leader to least likely lose their lead would have been the Phillies…. As of right now, they are the team with the smallest division lead in the league. (The moves STL has made sure has panned out…they may end up with the largest division lead…)
Rob from SC
August 16th, 2009
9:44 pm
Paul Lentz
I have never bashed you or called you names, but that ends now. Diory Hernandez is hitting over .360 at Triple A and he sucks. If Heyward was hitting between .270 and .300 then I would say he needs to see triple A. His numbers are unbelievable. I think he would be lket down by getting called up to Gwinnett instead of Atlanta. He said in a interview that his goal from the day he signed that he wanted to be in the bigs by 09. He deserves to be called up because of the way he plays.
Soph
August 16th, 2009
9:45 pm
But, it’s Sunday Mixxo. I LIKE the red unis.
nycbravesfan
August 16th, 2009
9:45 pm
write the “i” is next to the “u”. Thanks Mrs. Kelevra! I’ll try harder next time…
Steve Phillips is better than he gets credit for..
Steve from OH
August 16th, 2009
9:45 pm
The radar looks all clear from here on out!
Dan Kolb's Mom
August 16th, 2009
9:45 pm
alright lets get em.
Rob from SC
August 16th, 2009
9:45 pm
Paul
When did Church become a star?
Name
August 16th, 2009
9:46 pm
Jon Miller sounds like he’s got a handful of marbles in his mouth. What a jerkoff.
kelevra
August 16th, 2009
9:46 pm
paul
hewyard just turned 20
Nova Scotia Steve
August 16th, 2009
9:46 pm
Holy jeese….I leave for a day or two and no Prado…McLouth and Soriano still bothered by his shoulder….YIKES…
Hey at least we’re playing ball!
Ryan
August 16th, 2009
9:46 pm
1 out
nolie
August 16th, 2009
9:46 pm
I didn’t like that Posnanski list at all. He ranked Soriano and Vazquez higher than McCann. (Efrim)
Ok, no not just younger players but that is often what you comment on. I just threw in that Pos list to tease McFann. She expressed disdain as she should have.
Heath
August 16th, 2009
9:47 pm
Only 26 more outs to go…
BravesfaninWis
August 16th, 2009
9:47 pm
chilidog75
August 16th, 2009
9:01 pm
Is John Miller having a stroke?
Spit it out, man. Geez. What in the world did he just say?
John Miller is to baseball announcing as John Madden is to football announcing. The most annoying part about Miller is he always tries to put his own little twist on the Latin players names like he is fluent with them. Take Furcal for example, Miller pronounces his name Raphael Furcal (Like the Ninja turtle Raphael) and his last name as in Fercal instead of what it truly is. I wish he would give it up already. He and that Kenny Albert that sounds like he has a **** stuck in his mouth.
Tomahawkin
August 16th, 2009
9:47 pm
WTF
Braves Fan in SC
August 16th, 2009
9:47 pm
Ballgame
Soph
August 16th, 2009
9:47 pm
Are you kidding me? Is that bad luck or what?
David O'Brien
August 16th, 2009
9:47 pm
Well, the Phillies just got back one lucky break.
Heath
August 16th, 2009
9:47 pm
Bad break there….
nycbravesfan
August 16th, 2009
9:47 pm
there goes the catalyst, morgan is retarded as well
Ryan
August 16th, 2009
9:47 pm
unbelievable
kelevra
August 16th, 2009
9:47 pm
im just messin within ya nycbraves
Paul Lentz
August 16th, 2009
9:48 pm
Rob from SC………….Professional baseball is a BUSINESS. “Deserves” has nothing to do with it. The Braves are going to do what is in their best interest economically, while trying to field a competitive team.
Vinings Jim
August 16th, 2009
9:48 pm
get Medlen up
Tomahawkin
August 16th, 2009
9:48 pm
Nice DP ESCO!!!
Heath
August 16th, 2009
9:48 pm
SWEEET!!!!!
Vinings Jim
August 16th, 2009
9:48 pm
never mind
Dan Kolb's Mom
August 16th, 2009
9:48 pm
wow. what a play. awesome.
Braves Fan in SC
August 16th, 2009
9:48 pm
Got that lucky break right back.
cabravesfan
August 16th, 2009
9:48 pm
Well that was pretty
nycbravesfan
August 16th, 2009
9:48 pm
Escobar baby!!!!!!!! thats our catalyst!!!
Soph
August 16th, 2009
9:48 pm
Sweetness. I take it.
Steve from OH
August 16th, 2009
9:48 pm
Well, the Phillies just got back one lucky break.
Uh…about that…
Anonymous Caller
August 16th, 2009
9:48 pm
Escoo!! nice!
Jeff321
August 16th, 2009
9:48 pm
hey, you’re the one who made the idiotic statement that I quoted. .and I’m always much nicer to you than I think you deserve dude.
Do you honestly think I care if some smart ass former career minor league catcher is “nice” to me or not?
Btw, nice play by Escobar.
Name
August 16th, 2009
9:48 pm
victorino’s a queer
Rob from SC
August 16th, 2009
9:48 pm
what happened?
Ryan
August 16th, 2009
9:48 pm
we get the break right back!!
Heath
August 16th, 2009
9:48 pm
24 more outs left…
Doc Holiday
August 16th, 2009
9:48 pm
Take that Mr. Victorino………
dogsbrekky
August 16th, 2009
9:49 pm
I love Yunel, no seriously, man love for that beaut little Cubano
Tomahawkin
August 16th, 2009
9:49 pm
5 Pitches in that inning as well, I like That!
The_Superhoo
August 16th, 2009
9:49 pm
WOWZA!
Richie
August 16th, 2009
9:49 pm
Way to go Yunie!!! Very heads up play right there
lexbrave
August 16th, 2009
9:49 pm
luck giveth and luck taketh away.
Heath
August 16th, 2009
9:49 pm
Only 5 pitches for Javy… very nice. Would love to see him go 8+ here tonight with the team having to bounce right back tomorrow at 4pm.
Soph
August 16th, 2009
9:50 pm
BravesfaninWis & Braves Fan in SC –
Thought you both declared that you were done with the Braves yesterday? I see you’re back though.
Paul Lentz
August 16th, 2009
9:50 pm
Turnabout is fair play. While a number of you were crying when the Victorino ball hit the bag……….you all jumped for joy when that LINER by Utley went right to Escobar to double up Victorino.
To be honest, I wasnt worried when Victorino got that lucky double. Sh!T happens. Sometimes a pitcher has to work around some bad luck.
kelevra
August 16th, 2009
9:50 pm
when is the last time we jumped out on somebody early…thats what we need
Shamus Thacker
August 16th, 2009
9:51 pm
One Helluva weather guy ain’t I!?
Steve from OH
August 16th, 2009
9:51 pm
Do you honestly think I care if some smart ass former career minor league catcher is “nice” to me or not?
No. But you should care if he disagrees with you. If he does, chances are that you’re wrong. But you are either too stubborn to admit it or too impervious to notice. Either that, or you can’t allow a healthy dose of reality into your vitriol. Take your pick, it doesn’t matter to me.
McFann :Ô:
August 16th, 2009
9:51 pm
nolie–
Uh…huh? What? You talking to me?
La Jolla Dawg
August 16th, 2009
9:52 pm
“A former Brave who is now with the Braves again…” he gets paid for that?
kelevra
August 16th, 2009
9:52 pm
these maybe the three worst commentators in sports and they put them together
abwright
August 16th, 2009
9:52 pm
Even if the Braves lose tonight (they aren’t!), I think they will be leading the wild card “division” two weeks from now. Just looking at schedules. If they have to DL McLouth, they should bring up the best replacement.
Braves have a very real chance to make the post-season this year. It would be a crime if they threw Gregor Blanco out there for 10-12 games when they could be making up ground.
I read that Schafer was out of the cast and presumably is starting to get ready to play. Brandon Jones was apparently doing better in the second half. But, if the Braves think that Heyward is the best option, he should get the call over the others, damn the long term cost.
Meanwhile, the Reaper gets a lucky double by hitting the first base bag, but immediately gets erased on a liner / tag out double play.
Shamus Thacker
August 16th, 2009
9:52 pm
It’s scary how good Yunel could become. He ain’t bad now!
Heath
August 16th, 2009
9:52 pm
Wouldn’t it be nice if the late start caused those guys to fall asleep…giving us just video?
Nova Scotia Steve
August 16th, 2009
9:52 pm
So I was a litttle hung-over this morning…went out for breakfest with some friends.
Here how my order went down with the waitress….
So you think i could get some sausage on the side…but the last thing i want is a sh*tload of sausage…like just a couple would be cool
We laughed….
nolie
August 16th, 2009
9:53 pm
I actually like steve phillips, (NYCBravefan)
blasphemy!!! actually i like him too. don’t always agree with him but I like him better than most. but then I like Sutton too. Really miss Pete though. The best there was IMO at least as far as Braves games
Rob from SC
August 16th, 2009
9:53 pm
Way to be productive Loaf
Heath
August 16th, 2009
9:53 pm
We’ll take that.
The Bird and Indian
August 16th, 2009
9:53 pm
nycbravesfan: Man you gotta change your name. We can’t have a ncbravesfan and a nycbravesfan.
Steve from OH
August 16th, 2009
9:53 pm
Pssshh…look at Loaf tossin’ that bat like he’s MFIKY or somethin’…
nycbravesfan
August 16th, 2009
9:53 pm
I beg to differ mr. morgan. Chipper and Yuni are just as if not more productive than feliz and rollins….
Dan Kolb's Mom
August 16th, 2009
9:54 pm
kelevra- agree. you could put a rocking chair, a log, and a can of peas in the booth and it would be vastly more intelligent and entertaining broadcasting than i am hearing right now
Mixxo
August 16th, 2009
9:54 pm
Happ is “up” a lot early.
bravefaninok
August 16th, 2009
9:54 pm
Heath
August 16th, 2009
9:49 pm
Only 5 pitches for Javy… very nice. Would love to see him go 8+ here tonight with the team having to bounce right back tomorrow at 4pm.
yesterday on the blog,
I predicted Javy will throw CG shutout tonight(i’ll be happy with 8in win)
CaliChopper
August 16th, 2009
9:54 pm
sure hope loaf doesn’t have nightmares from that hbp
Jeffro
August 16th, 2009
9:54 pm
If a picture paints a thousand words…………..http://deadspin.com/5336293/stay-classy-cubs-fans-update
Heath
August 16th, 2009
9:54 pm
Not exactly patient at the plate these guys in the red unis…
Steve from OH
August 16th, 2009
9:54 pm
Chipper and Yuni are just as if not more productive than feliz and rollins
Ummm…”slightly” more productive, yes.
BIOMASS
August 16th, 2009
9:55 pm
Enter your comments here
Rob from SC
August 16th, 2009
9:55 pm
I hate swinging 2-0
The_Superhoo
August 16th, 2009
9:55 pm
Okay, is it “JAY Happ” or “Jay Ay Happ” ? this is getting on my nerves
matt
August 16th, 2009
9:56 pm
man morgan butchered those statements about chipper. that was ugly
Rob from SC
August 16th, 2009
9:56 pm
He could not score??????????????????????
Tomahawkin
August 16th, 2009
9:56 pm
Damnit Loaf Is Slow As Shyt!!!