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braves4ever
August 16th, 2009
8:15 pm
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straw man
August 16th, 2009
8:16 pm
The Washington Nationals are a sub-par baseball team.
braves4ever
August 16th, 2009
8:16 pm
opps, Phillies pitching will get worse
Matt
August 16th, 2009
8:17 pm
Paul… game tomorrow is at 4:05 pm
AMG
August 16th, 2009
8:17 pm
Braves play at 4 tomorrow
Goldenglove002
August 16th, 2009
8:17 pm
oh thank god, ESPN announcers are off the air for now
really
August 16th, 2009
8:17 pm
the game is at 4 on Monday not 1
Heath
August 16th, 2009
8:18 pm
Paul -
Game is at 4pm…. but I understand the premise of your point.
bravefaninok
August 16th, 2009
8:18 pm
Paul Lentz
the game monday is @ 4:05 eastern
braves4ever
August 16th, 2009
8:18 pm
Fish are going to take this game to the wire.
Keeping It Real
August 16th, 2009
8:18 pm
I hear that McLouth’s hamstring has been giving him trouble for an extended period. This is not good if true. Maybe the Pirates sneaked one in on the Braves. Just like with Druw back in 1996,its Heyward time.
keylargo
August 16th, 2009
8:19 pm
Bat Masterson
It was a nice day down here with the winds blowing about 15 mph out of the east. Did you see that two Tropical Storms formed yesterday and were named Anna and Bill? Their track now is headed right over the Keys which means they might come into the Gulf. I’m getting my generator gas tomorrow.
Paul Lentz
August 16th, 2009
8:19 pm
ray k………you are assuming a lot of “ifs”. Just because we have won 8 of 11 against the Phillies, does not mean that we are a “lock” to win 5 of the last 7 against them. These are the defending champs we are talking about. The Phillies arent going to exactly lay down. The Phillies (just like the Braves during our play-off run) play really tough down the stretch. They have already shown what they are capable of doing down the stretch.
I’m not saying that we cant win 5 of 7. I’m saying that it is going to be TOUGH to do that.
monty
August 16th, 2009
8:20 pm
KC
“Cox refuses to use KJ.”
Don’t go questioning the HOF coach on here, some won’t like it! BC makes all the right moves in their eyes, but yeh KJ hits 2 bombs out in LA and BC starts Infante, let’s just hope he proves you wrong!
Vinings Jim
August 16th, 2009
8:20 pm
Apparently EVERYONE reads Paul Lentz’s posts…despite what they say
wow
August 16th, 2009
8:20 pm
Hanley just struck out representing the tying run but betencourt blew him away 6-3 colorado on top
Paul Lentz
August 16th, 2009
8:21 pm
Matt…..thanks for the correction. I glanced at the ESPN page and must have read the game time wrong.
Doc Holiday
August 16th, 2009
8:21 pm
Paul Lentz,
You must be doing something wrong here pal, everybody is ready to jump on you. Be careful .
Steve from OH
August 16th, 2009
8:21 pm
I will say that I think they will call Heyward up if McLouth is DL’ed. Not that I’ll like it, but the circumstances will be different. But I will be excited to see what he’s got.
Jordan Schafer got healthy about 2 weeks too late…
Shamus Thacker
August 16th, 2009
8:21 pm
Just popped out of trance. Tonight’s on-the-record B-Mac prediction: 5-AB, 3-GIDP, 2-K.
The Great Shamosakiki has spoken!
Paul Lentz
August 16th, 2009
8:23 pm
Vinings Jim………I know that they read my posts. Whenever I make a “type” or “misspeak”, they come out of the “wookwork” and get on me like a heat seeking missile.
Still, I dont mind it. It keeps me on my toes and helps me stay sharp with my postings.
Mixxo
August 16th, 2009
8:25 pm
You can tell Cantu means business by the way he wears his batting helmet.
….and……long fly out.
Steve from OH
August 16th, 2009
8:25 pm
It keeps me on my toes and helps me stay sharp with my postings.
Oh. My. God.
Paul Lentz
August 16th, 2009
8:25 pm
Steve from OH…….the Braves are not going to call up Jason Heyward this year. Just not going to happen. If McLouth has to go on the DL, they will either call up Gregor Blanco, Brandon Jones, or the Barton kid.
Doc Holiday
August 16th, 2009
8:26 pm
Steve from OH ,
LOL………….nothing against you Paul, but that was funny.
Steve from OH
August 16th, 2009
8:26 pm
Ok Paul, I’ll write it down. I don’t think they should, but I’m not stupid enough to think it won’t happen.
Gregor Blanco? Ugh. No thanks.
Soph
August 16th, 2009
8:28 pm
Rain, rain go away…
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
August 16th, 2009
8:28 pm
Steve,
You don’t think the Braves would call up Brandon Jones if McLouth is DL’d? Church and Infante can fill in in CF for a couple of weeks.
Unless Wren really believes Heyward is ready now.
Heath
August 16th, 2009
8:28 pm
The shot they just showed and the the interactive map at weather.com makes it look like we’re still at least another 30 minutes away…
TnBrian
August 16th, 2009
8:29 pm
Well, Joe Morgan loves Ryan Howard, so of course when he gets a chance he’ll crown the Phills.
Paul Lentz
August 16th, 2009
8:29 pm
Steve from OH………I didnt say that Gregor Blanco was a “great” call-up option. I’m saying that the Braves know enough about him to feel comfortable having him play a back-up role if McLouth had to go on the DL.
JasonInFL
August 16th, 2009
8:30 pm
what’s “wook work”?
Doc Holiday
August 16th, 2009
8:31 pm
JasonInFL,
I thought I didnt know because my english was not that good, hehe-
Shamus Thacker
August 16th, 2009
8:32 pm
Hey Paul, anything spewing from your ears? You’re so fulla yourself I’m surprised your human container can hold it all…
jeffrey d
August 16th, 2009
8:32 pm
Didn’t they just show Randy Wolf?
McFann :Ô:
August 16th, 2009
8:32 pm
Shamus</strong.–
Whoo-hoo! Waytago!
The Great Shamosakiki has spoken!
Soph Rain, rain go away…
…come again on an off-day…
At least National Treasure is on…some movie channel.
Vinings Jim
August 16th, 2009
8:32 pm
I hate it when it rains there and it has done nothing here all day (12 miles away)
cabravesfan – annoying, yet censored, comments designed solely to tick off our friend
McFann :Ô:
August 16th, 2009
8:33 pm
Dangit…that post was too bold.
Ryan
August 16th, 2009
8:34 pm
Whats the word DOB?
jeffrey d
August 16th, 2009
8:34 pm
At 8:19 they said “we hope to have the game started and first pitch by 8:30.”
Either that, or you’re just too scared to lose viewers so you won’t be honest about how long it’s gonna take.
Soph
August 16th, 2009
8:36 pm
jeffrey d – yup, exactly. 8:30 sounds too optimistic but they probably want viewers to stick around.
Soph
August 16th, 2009
8:36 pm
*sounded too optimistic since it’s already passed.
Denny Green
August 16th, 2009
8:37 pm
If you wanna crown the Phils now, go ahead and crown their ásses!
Bat Masterson
August 16th, 2009
8:38 pm
Keylargo, Better safe than sorry, right. I read a story earlier this week that said high atmosphere winds from the west, (el nino ?) where keeping storms from forming. Now three in a week, its that time of year. I haven’t had to run from one in awhile, hope it holds.
njbraves
August 16th, 2009
8:39 pm
Lentz…you really are a bigger loser than I initially thought. I didn’t think it was possible, but you proved me wrong with your “keep my posts sharp” comment.
Steve from OH
August 16th, 2009
8:39 pm
Piedmont–perhaps I should re-phrase myself by saying that I think it is much more likely. And like I said, I still wouldn’t like it any more than if they did it with McLouth healthy, but an argument can be made that Heyward helps us more than Jones. Jones is the only one I’d consider calling up over Heyward, but they’re pretty much the same player–except that Heyward does everything Jones does, but better. Heyward plays better defense than Jones and is certainly hitting better.
It is a stretch, I know, to say that bringing up Heyward even with a McLouth injury is the right move, but I really can’t say that bringing up Blanco or Barton instead gives me a fuzzy feeling. I actually still like Jones a lot, but for some strange reason I think he’s been playing hurt this year. I’m purely speculating; I don’t know if I read it somewhere or whatever…
Oh, and I definitely think Church would play center; if Schafer were healthy I think it would be a no-brainer to recall him. But we’d still need an OF…I dunno. Maybe you’re right and they would recall Jones. I’d like that move more than Heyward, but I’m not gonna say that he won’t be promoted if McLouth goes the way of the 15 day.
jeffrey d
August 16th, 2009
8:39 pm
I mean, is the tarp even off? You can’t tell because the giant ESPN scoreboard is in the way when they show the field.
CrimeDog
August 16th, 2009
8:39 pm
Jim Tracy has left Huston Street in for two innings! Not only do I want to nurse his children, but I want to write a three-part miniseries chronicaling how much he is playing to win this game, not just “not to lose it.”
Shamus Thacker
August 16th, 2009
8:39 pm
jeffrey: At 8:19 they said “we hope to have the game started and first pitch by 8:30.”
Either that, or you’re just too scared to lose viewers so you won’t be honest about how long it’s gonna take.”"
Or you found out a gigantic asteroid would strike the earth in an hour, and figgered WTF?
Heath
August 16th, 2009
8:40 pm
13 hits and 3 BBs for the Marlins in the nightcap….and only 3 runs. Yikes!
TnBrian
August 16th, 2009
8:40 pm
They just said the tarp’s still on the field so it’s either quit raining or stopped and they think there’s more to come. Doesn’t sound to good to me.
atlynkhtr
August 16th, 2009
8:41 pm
kid from socal playing in little leauge WS has 11 homers in 16 abs.
Heath
August 16th, 2009
8:41 pm
Answer me this:
What is up with the NCAA and their crazy rules? Why can a college baseball enter the draft, get and agent and still go back to college, but as soon as a college basketball player gets an agent, their done?
atlynkhtr
August 16th, 2009
8:42 pm
think ill pick him up in my keeper league
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
August 16th, 2009
8:42 pm
Hey……is the game on ESPN or ESPN2?
TnBrian
Even with his struggles here of late, I’d MUCH rather have Soriano than Gonzo as closer.
AND no closer is going to be perfect. My god, people……some here think that a closer has to be perfect….and if he ain’t, he’s washed up, get rid of him, etc, etc, etc.
Random
August 16th, 2009
8:42 pm
Tomahawkin –
Through 116 games, Chipper leads the Braves in OPS (.910, to McCann’s .846, Prado’s .831 and Escobar’s .810) AND OPS+ (149, to McCann’s 122, Prado’s 118 and Escobar’s 116).
Now tell me he’s not the offensive leader of this team, bro.
So far this season Chipper has appeared in more games (101, to Escobar’s 98, McCann’s 96 and Anderson’s 94) and has had more plate appearances (425, to Escobar’s 420, McCann’s 385 and Anderson’s 363) than any other Brave.
Now tell me he’s not consistent and dependable, bro.
Through 116 games, Chipper leads the Braves in Runs Created (78, to Escobar’s 60, McCann’s 58 and Prado’s 47) and Runs Created per Game (7.9, to McCann’s 6.0, Escobar’s 5.7 and Prado’s 5.5).
Now tell me he’s not the offensive leader of this team, bro.
Six Braves — McCann (12, 14%), Escobar (12, 20%), Prado (11, 16%), Francoeur (10, 12%), Anderson (10, 12%), Diaz (9, 12%) — have grounded into more double plays than Chipper (7, 9%). Only McLouth (8%), LaRoche (8%) and Johnson (8%) have grounded into relatively fewer double plays than Chipper (9%).
Now tell me he’s not clutch, bro.
Chipper’s batting is responsible for more than twice as many runs and more than twice as many wins as the next ranked Brave (McCann; Escobar and Prado follow).
Now tell me he’s not the offensive leader of this team, bro.
See for yourself.
TnBrian
August 16th, 2009
8:42 pm
I’ll try again:
Tarp’s still on the field which means it’s either still raining or stopped and they think there’s more to come.
Frankie Knuckles
August 16th, 2009
8:42 pm
what’s “wook work”?
Ask Chewbacca.
njbraves
August 16th, 2009
8:43 pm
Random….great post. You’re 100% right.
TnBrian
August 16th, 2009
8:43 pm
Frank, no, I wasn’t going by his struggles lately. I was going by the fact that’s he very injury prone and will probably cost too much.
jeffrey d
August 16th, 2009
8:44 pm
If ESPN knows there’s a giant asteroid about to hit the earth, I’d hope they’d warn us.
But knowing them, they’d probably get exclusive rights to cover the asteroid.
Random
August 16th, 2009
8:44 pm
Typo alert — Chipper’s OPS+ = 140, not 149.
Shamus Thacker
August 16th, 2009
8:44 pm
“”They just said the tarp’s still on the field so it’s either quit raining or stopped and they think there’s more to come.”"
Or pranksters on the grounds crew super-glued it.
Lauren T.
August 16th, 2009
8:45 pm
No rain in 30339-Vinings — not a speck. So odd.
Shamus Thacker
August 16th, 2009
8:46 pm
jeffrey, it would hit during those negotiations…
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
August 16th, 2009
8:46 pm
TnBrian
With all due respect……hell, Chipper’s injury prone (LOL) but he’s still on the team (LOL)….which I’m not saying is a bad thing.
Just sayin……
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
August 16th, 2009
8:46 pm
Heath,
I think your beef is with the NBA and it’s union. That deal is part of the collective bargaining agreement. The NFL also bans high school grads and college freshmen from joining the league per the union contract.
braveman
August 16th, 2009
8:47 pm
i dont think they will call heyward up if mclouth is disabled….
i think they are going to be very careful with him. i have seen a couple of others who have suggested this but i think unless he is called up to gwinnett, like tomorrow, and goes on a two week or so tear….then we MAY see him. and i doubt that. i think we are most likely to see him next september, after he starts off next year in AAA. i think the braves are going to be sure that he has the plate discipline that everyone has seen from him thus far. if he succeeds at gwinnett for an extended period then we will see him. i just dont see how the braves would call him up, strait from AA, given what happened with schafer….injury or not.
in my opinion he wont be called up if mclouth is DLd.
Brian the Brain
August 16th, 2009
8:47 pm
Jon: And Joe it looks like statiscally speaking that asteroid will hit the Earth.
Joe: I don’t believe in Statistics Jon. When you’ve actually played the game you know when it feels like an asteroid is going to hit the earth.
Steve: Hey I used to be the GM for the Mets!
JayDubu
August 16th, 2009
8:47 pm
What’s the status of the game? I’m in the northeast, so I have no idea what the weather is doing in Atl.
Rob from SC
August 16th, 2009
8:48 pm
Steve from OH
I know you don’t like the Stolen Base, but it is working for the Rangers
Soph
August 16th, 2009
8:49 pm
I said rain, rain go away. NOW.
dogsbrekky
August 16th, 2009
8:49 pm
Oh my favorite Elvis song on the blog, woo hoooooooo
Great effort last night to take advantage of the fillies chokes… let’s just kick em in the throat while they are down
have a great night all
Scotty doo
August 16th, 2009
8:49 pm
DOB, any updates?
CrimeDog
August 16th, 2009
8:50 pm
ESPN would also diagram ways that Tim Tebow could stop the asteroid from hitting.
wow
August 16th, 2009
8:51 pm
crimedog
Sreet only pitched 1 1/3 innings not 2.
jtb
August 16th, 2009
8:52 pm
It’s raining in 30309, whic is about 5 miles north of Turner.
RHR
August 16th, 2009
8:52 pm
It rained off and on in auburn most of the afternoon…after the 1st two downpours it was an absolute sauna outside, then it cleared up for about 30 minutes and another monsoon came and after that it was really cool and mild outside. And one part of auburn it would be raining and just a few miles down the road the streets were dry like it hadn’t rained all day.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
August 16th, 2009
8:52 pm
Steve,
I’m with you. I’d rather not see Heyward up this year unless the Braves fall out of it in early September. There’s a chance he could already do a lot more for you now than Jones could. But he could easily struggle, and that could affect him next season. I remember what happened to Joey Devine in 2005.
CameronC
August 16th, 2009
8:52 pm
DOB, Carrol, whoever – Whats it doing in Atlanta?
Heath
August 16th, 2009
8:53 pm
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR) -
It might very well be….but it just doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. I guess I understand the NFL thing because they are worried about physical contact a young man (at 18 or 19) is going to receive…but the mere act of getting representation ending disqualifying your status as a student-athlete makes less than no sense. If you don’t get paid, you’re still an amatuer.
MItchie-san
August 16th, 2009
8:53 pm
C’mon, lets get this game goin. Otherwise, I have to do my chores…
Paul Lentz
August 16th, 2009
8:53 pm
Steve from OH…………I have no doubt that Jason Heyward is a better player than Brandon Jones. However, as has been debated on here before, it would be an UNWISE move economically to start Heyward’s service clock before June of 2010.
Vinings Jim
August 16th, 2009
8:53 pm
Lauren T – you and your chi-chi Vinings zip code – no rain in Smyrna either
I’ll have to have your friend in LA give you a hard time for me
wow
August 16th, 2009
8:54 pm
This game most likely will be postponed.
CrimeDog
August 16th, 2009
8:54 pm
RHR-
There’s more than one part of Auburn? Haha I’m just couldn’t resist, being a Georgia grad. Just joking.
braveman
August 16th, 2009
8:54 pm
espn is doing a good job of keeping us updated….
they keep saying an update is coming and yet, there is no update. wheres DOB?
CrimeDog
August 16th, 2009
8:54 pm
Meant to say I just couldn’t resist…bring on the Georgia grad jokes.
njbraves
August 16th, 2009
8:54 pm
I hope to God the Braves call up Hayward just so Lentz looks like more of a jag off than before.
braves4ever
August 16th, 2009
8:55 pm
DOB went to Starbucks, BBL
Steve from OH
August 16th, 2009
8:55 pm
Rob–that’s a myth. I like the stolen base, and I like fast, athletic players. What I don’t like are blanket green lights for basestealers, attempting to steal in unfavorable situations, and favoring high numbers of stolen bases in favor of SB%. I also don’t like acquiring basestealers as the backbone of your offense. That’s not the way you win ballgames, it’s by hitting. Stolen bases are a big help, and can be a valuable resource late in games, but let’s not kid around–only the very best basestealers give their teams a net aggregate in run expectancy. Anything else is a net loss if abused. Mangers that let their bad basestealers run wild hurt their teams. A LOT of folks on the blog would be that type of manager.
I would build my teams around on-base ability and power, and add some guys that can steal bases, but I won’t add a pure basestealer instead of a pure hitter. It’s a nice tool to have (and our team DOES have that tool when needed), but it’s not the backbone of your offense and should not be used as such.
NORRIS
August 16th, 2009
8:55 pm
heyward is good. You are going to have to pay him regardless. You put the kid in the their and play him. Besides after a year or two he will be gone. WE ARE OWNED BY A CORPORATION. This means that we wont have the funds to pay several players that are mega stars. Heyward will be big.
smyrna isnt vinings
August 16th, 2009
8:55 pm
VJ, are you not in 30339?
Jake W.
August 16th, 2009
8:56 pm
“Even with his struggles here of late, I’d MUCH rather have Soriano than Gonzo as closer.”
I guess i’m the opposite. Of the two Soriano has been more dominant and because of that I think he will probably be the harder of the two to keep and you do have to keep his injury history in mind. I know gonzo is never really clean in that he doesn’t get to many 1-2-3 innings but he minimizes damage. Soriano has 3 blown saves and Gonzo 5 this season. The difference to me though is that when Gonzo tends to blow his saves they are usually all one run leads and he doesn’t usaully completely blow the game in the process. We have only lost one game in which he has blown the save while we have lost the two for Soriano. He gives us a chance to comeback and get the win. When Soriano blows the save its ugly. I agree no closer is perfect but these little stretches that Soriano gets into with these homers are ugly. Not to mention I think Gonzo will be cheaper to keep.
cabravesfan
August 16th, 2009
8:56 pm
VJ-
I am not going to give my girl a hard time for that! It’s you that I should be giving a hard time to “Vinings” Jim
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
August 16th, 2009
8:56 pm
Rob from SC,
You need to have guys who can steal. Otherwise, you’re giving away outs. I’m a little shocked to see Diaz run the past two games, but Lidge is awful trying to hold runners. You don’t just run for the he!! of it.
Lauren T.
August 16th, 2009
8:56 pm
Well, Vinings Jim, technically Smyrna *isn’t* Vinings, in spite of what businesses want to call themselves.
McFann :Ô:
August 16th, 2009
8:57 pm
Steve I like the stolen base, and I like fast, athletic players.
I don’t…unless they’re on our team.
Paul Lentz
August 16th, 2009
8:57 pm
njbraves……….whatever dude. The Braves arent going to make a move that would cost them millions of dollars, just to appease you.
jeffrey d
August 16th, 2009
8:57 pm
ESPN would also diagram ways that Tim Tebow could stop the asteroid from hitting.
Or if he couldn’t, maybe the Yankees/Red Sox series could.