3:53 pm August 16, 2009, by David O'Brien
August 16th, 20095:59 pm
gotta love the korean bringing the heat on tiger with that clutch chip in EAGLE
18 Wheels of Love
August 16th, 20096:00 pm
What’s up with Prado? I thought the dizzies were heat related last night?
And good on ya to Bobby for sticking Rochey back in there.
Let’s score early and often!
Unbelieveable……….Y.E. Yang just hit an eagle on 14, while Tiger only birdied. Yang has a 1 shot lead with 4 holes left. Tiger started yesterday with a 4 shot lead……..and today with a 2 shot lead.
Tiger has never lost a Major when going into the final round leading. 14-0.
Steve from OH
He ain’t horrible but he could be a bunch better
That was pretty much my argument, that he’s ok but not absolutely awful, as opposed to the folks that argue as though he’s the worst defensive catcher in the history of catchers
I’m starting to get worried about Martin Prado. Let’s hope this isn’t a Joey Votto situation, where there could be something a lot worst causing this “dizziness” of Martin’s.
what is it going to take for David Ross (a good hitting backup catcher with HR power) to crack this braves lineup against a tough LH pitcher, esp. given how Mac has been struggling against LH pitching of late? With a day game (makeup) tomorrow it would have been perfect for Bobby Cox to rest Brian McCann tonight (and have him as a PH weapon off the bench).
I’m starting to think David Ross is not in Bobby’s Boys Club on the team.
August 16th, 20096:02 pm
I hope Prado feels better soon. We’re gonna need him.
August 16th, 20096:03 pm
Lentz…you’re unreal. You really think you’re some type of authority on Braves business. I never said they didn’t approach him about a contract. What I said was, you don’t KNOW that they did.
August 16th, 20096:04 pm
Top 15? Probably not. Top 50? Without a doub (Chili)
top 50? maybe, being a premium hitting catcher is not as valuable as you seem to think since he misses a lot of games and he is not a good defender. I was teasin’ McFann a bit with the 89.
Hope Martin is alright…but from a roster point of view, at least Infante is back to provide some insurance against him being out for a few days or something.
The Bird and Indian
Mixxo: I thought I remembered you putting that it was the same night as the Sunday night baseball game. I wouldn’t want you to leave if you didn’t hate the entire Braves team.
Vertigo…maybe? I hope not.
August 16th, 20096:06 pm
Lentz, I agree on JJ , I hope they have, its in their best interest.
August 16th, 20096:08 pm
I wouldnt say he misses ‘a lot’ of games. And it’s extremely valuable, in my opinion, to get all-star caliber production from a position where most teams are running out offensive liabilities.
Plus, as “average” as McCann is at defense, he seems to call a very good game behind the plate. He’s handled this pitching staff terrificially this season. That can’t be ignored just because he thinks, for whatever reason, that second base has been moved five feet to the right in recent weeks.
August 16th, 20096:09 pm
The Bird and Indian -
I love the Braves! Have for a long, long time now. Because I divvy out props to good ball teams doesn’t mean I love the guys any less. It also fits well into my reverse psychology scheme.
What can I say? I recognize good players/teams, no crime in that. Maybe I over-glorify them here, but hey, sometimes ya just gotta tip your cap and hope for a better day.
August 16th, 20096:11 pm
njbraves……..I totally understand that some players like the security that comes with a long term contract, particularly when it is early in their careers and they dont know “for sure” that they have what it takes to be a star in the Majors. However, some players dont want “for sure money”. Some of them actually want “all they can get” (who am I to say that they cant?). They are gambling that they cant make a lot more by doing the arbitration thing and going for Free Agency as soon as they can after Year 6.
So when you hear people on here saying “bring Heyward up right now……if we sign him early next year to a “Brian McCann type contract”…then it wont matter that the Braves lose out on a year of pre-arbitration service. I’m saying that that is simply a foolish gamble for the Braves to take. At least by waiting until June of 2010, that gives the Braves an extra year before Heyward is eligible for salary arbitration. That extra year “could” be used as leverage to get a player like Heyward to sign a contract extension before he is eligible for salary arbitration. I said “could”, not “for sure”.
August 16th, 2009
Mixxo A little above-avg. bat
Actually, it’s a lot above average sometimes, but whatever…
Terrible arm, can’t block the plate or shift to an errant pitch and has too many lapses back there.
Hey, guess what! Mauer has more PB than BMac this year! (7 for Joey, 5 for BMac) Fewer errors, but hey, just saying…
And he does not have a “terrible” arm. It’s his footwork…ya know, if second base was a little more towards first base, his arm would look a lot better.
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Classic,And if the CF wall was 7 feet closer to home he would have 40 dingers!
August 16th, 20096:12 pm
as opposed to the folks that argue as though he’s the worst defensive catcher in the history of catchers (STEVE)
no he ain’t that at all. Just frustrates me to watch him do things incorrectly. I’m surprised Perez hasn’t worked more with him. Perhaps because of his stature on the club. He obviously does not fit the old scouting parameters on catchers which was Defense,Arm,Power,Batting Average, Speed. Course like with every position not every player lined up that way. Anway I’m done teasin’ McFann. I guess I think he is a keeper. Mauer is better but other than him, I’ll stick with Mac too.
No, huh, BMac doesn’t miss “a lot” of games…I’ve practically forgotten our backup catcher’s name…
2. Anderson (yes, batting second)
Nothing about Bobby’s lineups shock me anymore…unless he were to move BMac outta the cleanup spot.
Mixxo: It’s not that you over glorify other teams. It’s that you consistently say season over, ballgame, we suck, Brian Mccann is average, and other things like that. I rarely hear you say anything good about the club.
This final round has been pretty cool.
So often, when Tiger has a lead in a major, the guy in his final pairing decides to urinate himsef. And Tiger shoots even par and cruises to a win.
Well, the Yanger isn’t backing down. And Tiger now has to GO WIN the tournament, instead of watching the other guys collapse around him.
Fun to watch.
August 16th, 20096:13 pm
why does everybody always think vertigo? The dude could be coming down with something. He could have an ear infection. It could be any number of things. Just give the guy the night off and let him rest and give him some antibiotics.
Tomahawkin (August 16th, 2009 5:33 pm): “Chipper is the face of the team but he doesn’t come through in close games and clutch situations like he used to 10 years ago when he was MVP”
That’s what you keep saying.
But your simply saying it doesn’t make it so — it just makes you look foolish.
You’re showing your @$$, bro.
Mixxo’s reverse psychology is no joke. It reallllly works sometimes.
Especially when he treads into the “ballgame!” and “season!” territories.
i hate to see prado out but with kj hot and infante back, if it has to happen this is probably the best time for it
August 16th, 20096:14 pm
Just thought I’d give an R.I.P. to theee “Man”….Elvis Aron Presley…January 8, 1935-August 16, 1977. Lets win this one for the King, Braves!!
Yeah, “Ha ha”…
Nolie I guess I think he is a keeper.
You guess you think he’s a keeper?
njbraves…….I dont have to “know”………I just KNOW. Common sense, and following baseball for 25 years, has led me to have enough “perception” to say that a GM like Frank Wren has approached Jair Jurrjens with a contract extension. I dont need to “be there” to realize this.
August 16th, 20096:15 pm
I love Andy hitting second. Fastballs.
August 16th, 20096:16 pm
It’s no secret that McCann isnt the among the best defensive catchers out there. However, he has more than enough offense to “compensate” his lack of defensive prowess. I can live with that.
August 16th, 20096:17 pm
NORRIS @ 6:13 – true. I was just throwing vertigo out there but you’re right, could be anything.
August 16th, 20096:18 pm
August 16th, 2009
Could be a perfect spot for him…
lus, as “average” as McCann is at defense, he seems to call a very good game behind the plate. He’s handled this pitching staff terrificially this season (Chili)
yes sir, I agree and said that. his intangibles which are more important when scouting and rating catchers than most any other position are off the charts. He is very very strong there. Positional advantages like you refer to are valuable of course, but likely more valuable in fantasy BB that real life, since there are so many more variables in actual BB. I just wish he kept his butt at home where he belongs, and would quit stepping to the side when throwing. Guess I’m pickier since that was my former position so long
August 16th, 20096:20 pm
Soph: But he says it every game that is tied or we are losing in. He said it last week when we are winning. If we end up coming back and winning he claims he said it on purpose for the reverse thing so we don’t get on him about it. It’s gotten old with him.
The odds of JJ signing to a long-term contract before free agency (with Scott (Milburn Drysdale) Boras his agent) are about as good the water supply turning to Jack Daniel’s.
August 16th, 20096:23 pm
are about as good the water supply turning to Jack Daniel’s. (Shamus)
well we can hope strongly for both, huh?
August 16th, 20096:24 pm
Shamus Thacker………I agree that the chances on signing Jurrjens to a long term contract any time soon arent good. However, it would be good for business to at least try. I’m sure that Frank Wren isnt going to just “not try”.
Shoot yeah bud! lol
August 16th, 20096:25 pm
probably not playin tonight boys…. rain all night
I could live with brushing my teeth with Jack Daniels, but I don’t know if I want to take a shower in it.
August 16th, 20096:26 pm
I won’t say it anymore.
There, I said it.
How come, with the obvious problems the Phils have with Lidge, they aren’t considering Smoltz for their bullpen?
August 16th, 20096:28 pm
Because John Smoltz would not be any better than Lidge.
probably not playin tonight boys…. rain all night – kelevra
That would be a major bummer.
I’ve been pumped for this game.
Awww, Mixxo that’s your trademark though.
Don’t take that wrong i wouldn’t ever knock Heap, He plays the toughest position on the team.
And is one of my favorite players.
August 16th, 20096:29 pm
He’ll try, and Jair could always overrule Boras. How often has Milburn been overruled by a client? Didn’t A-Rod do it at some point?
August 16th, 2009
Prado was still dizzy when he went to hit in the cage, so lineup’s changed and LaRoche is in.
2. Anderson (yes, batting second)
That’s a f***ed up line-up. That is weird. Why oh why is Brian still batting 4th? Why not LaRoche, or GA or Yunel?
Brian would be better off out of the 4th spot.
August 16th, 20096:30 pm
Rain, did somebody say Rain, I will have to cancel the party.
Crime – apparently the Dodgers and Marlins are giving it some thought and the Sox were willing to try him in the bullpen. If he’s not any better than Lidge (this season), he should retire.
The Phils have enough of a cushion, and they could sign him for dirt cheap, and they’d have about a month to determine if he could help them.
Seems like it would be worth a shot if you were the Phils.
August 16th, 20096:31 pm
Shamus–the final say-so is always with the player. If Boras did something without JJ’s permission, he’d be fired.
August 16th, 20096:33 pm
Just checked radar. Doesn’t look too good. Maybe it’ll be less than continuous and we can get it in…
August 16th, 20096:34 pm
Oh, I know. ‘S cool.
I just can’t stand his fly balls to the warning track…well, actually, the whole team’s doing it. Sometimes I wish they played in more of a “hitter’s park”.
August 16th, 20096:35 pm
Dammitt, We Got rain in Henry County and Ithink its moving up north…!
You guys know that I got that Southside “On Deck!”
man if espn hadnt changed this game we easily could have played today….im not say we definitely wont get it in, but it wouldnt be an issue if they had just left the game time where it was
August 16th, 20096:36 pm
REALLY hope Martin doesn’t go all Joey Votto on us here…
And it sure as heck better not rain. Arg…They coulda been playing this game all afternoon, but no. ESPN wanted to show the Fillies…
I know Steve, but more often than not a player goes with advice of a pro…
Yup, not looking good on the radar. Click on future at the bottom right to see a breakdown by the hour.
August 16th, 20096:38 pm
It’s very likely ESPN has knocked us out of a game tonight.. Looking worse by the minute.
August 16th, 20096:39 pm
That’s what you keep saying.”
You Damn Skippy and you know that in someways that I’m right
The Phillies (Manuel and Dubee, and Lidge himself) think Lidge’s stuff is as good as it’s ever been. He’s still throwing 95. I doubt that they’ll try to seek outside help for the closer’s role. They are probably more likely to go back to Madson.
August 16th, 20096:40 pm
Ha ha yeah thats why i picked 7 feet……
all this mcann hating…anyone else remember the 2 run homer he hit in that one run victory yesterday off a lefty…
August 16th, 20096:41 pm
As I said on the last blog GO SEE DISTRICT 9 !!
What is it going to take for David Ross (a good hitting backup catcher with HR power) to crack this braves lineup against a tough LH pitcher, esp. given how Mac has been struggling against LH pitching of late?
Dunno. Do our pitchers not like to throw to Ross or something?
The Braves will make it to the playoffs, but BMac will be really worn out and unproductive.
August 16th, 20096:42 pm
Dang, radar doesn’t look good. Lets blame that storm in the gulf, it’d be moving the opposite direction if that wasn’t there. next few days probably don’t look very good for baseball now.
atleast the team will get a little rest
You could’ve even picked 2 feet.
kelevra anyone else remember the 2 run homer he hit in that one run victory yesterday off a lefty…
But these people just remember the K and the DP…
nolie – how many stars do you give it? I do want to see it.
August 16th, 20096:44 pm
Soph, if it breaks-up as this map is forecasting, we might get it in with minimal delay. Sure doesn’t look good at the moment though.
If they get the game in tonight and have delays and such… Ross would probably play in tomorrow’s afternoon game, no?
August 16th, 20096:46 pm
Heath Ross would probably play in tomorrow’s afternoon game, no?
You never cann tell…seein’ as how it starts at 4.
August 16th, 20096:49 pm
GG002 Lets blame that storm in the gulf
Let’s blame it on ESPN for making them play at night!!
August 16th, 20096:50 pm
Pitchers rave about pitching to Brian. That has to be a factor too. Not dissing Rossy at all… Smoltz said it when Brian first came up. And as Matty said, Brian is the team leader both on and off the field. No stats for any of this. And after Monday the walls move, so there will be more homers… have my tix for NY, gonna stay with my brother and his family… all going Tues, just one other on Wed, probably going alone Thurs. All behind the Braves dugout. Fired up.
Tomahawkin: Ola High School right here!
August 16th, 20096:51 pm
cabravesfan – enjoy the 18th hole(since discussing dogs and Elvis apparently annoys at least one of the intellectually-gifted denizens of the blog, maybe golf will keep them from going ape-zegers)
McFann: Let’s blame it on ESPN for making them play at night!!
Their fault alright!
August 16th, 20096:52 pm
nolie – how many stars do you give it? I do want to see it. (Soph)
I give it very close to a nine out of ten.Thinking man’s sci-fi no doubt.
August 16th, 20096:53 pm
14 – 1?
Damn, Now The Sun is out here in Henry Co.
But it looks ominious towards the North…Not Good, Nothing worse than a rain Delay on BSPN!
August 16th, 20096:54 pm
Close the dome
August 16th, 20096:55 pm
Let’s go YANG!
The Bird and The Indaian…
I grew Up, North of Fayetteville around where Holyfield lives now…
I left for 10 years and Came back
Looks like it’ll be ok until about 11:00 or so…
August 16th, 20096:56 pm
That’s Why I call it BSPN!
Let’s go YANG! (Bird/Indian)
how is Yin doing?
August 16th, 20096:57 pm
I’m really likeing the Braves chances to win 90 games this year. Whether or not it translates to the playoffs is another story, but it will definitely be an improvement over last year.
Atlanta plays 26 games before the end of the season against sub .500 teams, and could win atleast 20 of those easily if they play smart baseball. 9 games against the Mets, and it wouldn’t surprise me to see the Braves take every one of those. With Wright out (I have a feeling he’s out for the season), there is really no one on that roster anymore outside of Johan and K-rod. At this point we can call Francouer their best offensive player, which is kind of scary. 7 games against Washington and 3 against San Diego, and this team can handle both of them without too much of a problem.
Whether or not we see the october baseball probably depends on the Marlins (who woulda thought they would be the team in our way). 10 games against them, and they haven’t been an easy team for the Braves to beat this year. Beating Philly is important obviously, but there isn’t a shot at anything if they can’t beat the marlins for the rest of the year.
cabravesfan – what kind of dog to you have?
*do you have
YANG! My goodness.
August 16th, 20096:58 pm
You sure got that right! He’s done a great job with our pitching staff this year even after missing a lot of ST because of that thing.
Hey, that’s great that you get to go to the games in NY (too bad you have to go alone on Thursday, though). Hopefully the Braves will put on a good show! Maybe J. Manuel won’t make Wright play just yet…
When it comes to Asian players, they arent afraid to “go for it”. It isnt looking good for Tiger. Great 2nd shot for Yang.
What a shot…my Lord.
What a shot Yang!
August 16th, 20096:59 pm
Looks like Yang is gonna beat Tiger…
Johnny Qwest: The Phillies play here again in September. Why would the Braves have two games tomorrow against the Phillies (forcing Phillies stay over another day) and then against the Diamondbacks? Not happening.
August 16th, 20097:00 pm
Yeah, that’s…what I figured…
What time today is the Smoltz trade deadline? Is it midnight eastern? I would think it would be 8:30 so Joe Morgan can give his opinion before and after the decision is announced.
She’s a Shepard/ Pit Bull mix
August 16th, 20097:01 pm
McFann: GG002 Lets blame that storm in the gulf
It had already been done, needed to post something new. We’ve blamed ESPN so many times already.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
My first thought about Prado was vertigo, too. If so, that could be a long-term problem, because you can’t predict when you have future episodes, or how long an episode might last.
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