Braves vs. Phils, Moylan wants in … as usual

 

  He’s been a big part of the run that’s gotten the Braves back into the thick of the playoff race, and Peter Moylan insists there’s no reason to be concerned about him possibly being too big a part.
That is, don’t worry about him pitching too frequently, even though the bloke leads the majors in relief appearances just 14-1/2 months after having ligament-transplant (”Tommy John”) elbow surgery.
  The amiable Aussie sidearmer has pitched in an eyebrow-raising 24 of the Braves’ 39 games since July 2, pushing his season total to 65 appearances entering tonight’s big series finale with the Phillies on ESPN.

Workhorse Aussie has been big for Braves

Workhorse Aussie has been big for Braves

  Mets lefty specialist Pedro Feliciano (64 before today) was the only other pitcher with as many as 60 appearances, and he had three fewer than Moylan since July 2.
  ”I feel like I’m at my best when I am throwing all the time,” the heavily — and we do mean heavily – tattoed righty said. “It allows you to hone your craft, so to speak, to get in a rhythm.”
  Yeah, but the elbow. Dude, aren’t you at all concerned about being on pace for a whopping 91 appearances? (That would shatter Chris Reitsma’s 2004 franchise record by six).
  ”Since the All-Star break I’ve felt good,” Moylan said. “And for me and most relievers, pitching with confidence is the biggest thing. Once you get on a roll, your confidence level is way high, and you feel like you know you’re going get guys out. You just want to get out there.”
  Yeah, but the elbow….
  ”If at any point I felt like it was too much, Skip [manager Bobby Cox] would be the first to know. I’d tell him, for sure.”
  Well, alright then. We’ll shut up about it. For now.
  Maybe all that ink on his arms has fortified them, sped the healing process, strengthened the ligament. Or maybe Moylan is just blessed with a rubber arm that’s healthier than most after having all those years away from pitching (while he was out of professional baseball and selling pharmaceutical supplies Down Under).
  They say some pitchers are stronger than ever after having T.J. surgery. Perhaps he’s just gotten to that point sooner than some in his recovery.
  Whatever. One thing that can’t be disputed is that he’s pitching as well as ever right now, and playing a huge role for the Braves.
  Moylan had a rough patch in early July, when he gave up 10 hits and five runs in 5-1/3 innings over a stretch of seven appearances – he pitched in seven of the Braves’ games in that July 3-12 period.
  But since then, he’s not allowed an earned run in 16 appearances, holding opponents to 10 hits (a .185 opponents’ average) with four walks and 16 strikeouts in that run. The Braves won 11 of those 16 games.
  Moylan said if anyone knows his arm it’s him. And if anyone knows the effort he put into getting back, the pain he endured and the surgery he wants to avoid repeating, it’s him.
  ”Absolutely,” he said, smiling. “It’s not a two-year program. I don’t want to pitch for a year and have to take a year off.”

 

 ♣ In a post-Frenchy Braves world: Don’t know if you all saw Carroll Rogers’ interview with Jeff Francoeur in the Sunday AJC (and online), but it’s really good. Some candid quotes from him about why it didn’t work out with the Braves, how it had nothing to do with coaching, etc. I’d recommend you check it out, even if you’ve grown a bit tired of Francoeur discussions and such.
  We all know that Francoeur has done well since the July 10 trade to the Mets, particularly in the first couple of weeks after the deal. So I was curious about how his production compared to that the of player he was traded for, Ryan Church.
  You might be surprised, especially given that initial Francoeur power resurgence and Church’s nagging elbow injury that slowed him early on after the deal and eventually kept him out of the lineup and required a series of cortisone shots. He’s also shared time with Matt Diaz in RF, though Church has gotten more time.
  Anyway, since the trade Francoeur has played 31 games and hit .288 (34-for-118) with 10 extra-base hits (five homers), 21 RBI, 12 runs, and a .326 OBP and .466 slugging percentage for a .792 OPS.
  Meanwhile, Church has played 23 games since the trade and hit .265 (18-for-68) with seven extra-base hits (two homers), 11 RBI, 14 runs, and a .383 OBP and .426 slugging percentage for an .809 OPS.

 ♣ Did went mention it’s a big game? Well, it is. Tonight’s series finale between the Braves and Phillies will leave the Braves either four games out of first place in the NL East if they win, or six out of first if they lose.
  As I file this blog, the Marlins are beating wild-card leader Colorado 7-1 in the sixth inning of th first game of their doubleheader. If the Rockies were to lose both, the Braves would be just 1-1/2 games off the wild-card lead if they beat Philly tonight.
  It’s Braves ace Javier Vazquez vs. Phillies Rookie of the Year candidate J.A. Happ. It’s the national game on ESPN. It’s big. Or did we already say that? It’s also threatened by rain. Ugh.
  It’s the two NL teams with the best records since June 28, each of them 27-15 in that period. No other NL team had more than 25 wins in that span, entering today’s games. Did we mention, rain appears headed this way?
  The Braves since Jun 28 have hit .279 with a 3.22 ERA, 211 runs and 49 homers. Phillies in that stretch have hit .257 with a 3.40 ERA, 215 runs and 56 homers.
  In their past 10 games, the Braves are 8-2 with a .284 average, 2.42 ERA and 100 hits, including 13 homers. They’ve averaged nearly six runs per game in that 10-game surge.
  They are 8-3 against the Phillies this season, after going 4-14 against them in 2008. The Braves have won six of the past seven games between the teams.
  One more stat: The Phillies are 1-6 against the Braves going back to May 9. In that same stretch, the Phillies are 49-31 against everyone else.

 ♦ OK, gotta get to the ballpark. We’ll take it out with one of the all-time great songs from Elvis, one that Mike Geier and his Kingsized Orchestra and Dames A’Flame dancers performed with panache last night at Variety Playhouse in their terrific tribute show for The King. And here’s a clip of the incomparable Elvis doing the song.

“SUSPICIOUS MINDS” by Mark James

We’re caught in a trap
I can’t walk out
Because I love you too much baby

Why can’t you see
What you’re doing to me
When you don’t believe a word I say?

We can’t go on together
With suspicious minds
And we can’t build our dreams
On suspicious minds

So, if an old friend I know
Drops by to say hello
Would I still see suspicion in your eyes?

Here we go again
Asking where I’ve been
You can’t see these tears are real
I’m crying

We can’t go on together
With suspicious minds
And be can’t build our dreams
On suspicious minds

Oh let our love survive
Or dry the tears from your eyes
Let’s don’t let a good thing die

When honey, you know
I’ve never lied to you
Ooo-ooo … yeah, yeah

 

 

1,719 comments Add your comment

kelevra

August 16th, 2009
3:57 pm

Mixxo

August 16th, 2009
3:58 pm

Gone Viral

August 16th, 2009
3:59 pm

Every time Moylan pitches, an angel gets its wings.

chilidog75

August 16th, 2009
3:59 pm

Francoeur the rally starter.
Nice win, Mets. Good work.

Heath

August 16th, 2009
3:59 pm

Random

August 16th, 2009
4:00 pm

McFann ;Ô; (August 16th, 2009 2:48 pm): “…though I know most girls want to be younger…”

No, most girls (and boys) want to be older.

Most women (and men) want to be younger.

You’ll find out for yourself soon enough.

The Bird and Indian

August 16th, 2009
4:00 pm

Metropolitans!

cabravesfan

August 16th, 2009
4:01 pm

Great song choice DOB! My all time favorite Elvis song :)

kelevra

August 16th, 2009
4:01 pm

yang started to feel that pressure

Mixxo

August 16th, 2009
4:02 pm

Heath

August 16th, 2009
4:02 pm

Heath

August 16th, 2009
3:59 pm

Mets win!!!

Shame on me… Meant to say:

Giants lose!!!!! :)

Bravesfan1984

August 16th, 2009
4:02 pm

mets beat sf

kelevra

August 16th, 2009
4:03 pm

haha…..frenchy saw ten ptches total in for at-bats…god love him

Paul Lentz

August 16th, 2009
4:03 pm

Bobby’s Cox………..I’m not saying that Brian McCann is complaining about his contract. I’m sure that he is content to be playing near his family and with the security that the 2007 contract provides him.

However, not all players are looking to take less money for security. Francoeur obviously has gambled. And to be honest, it may pay off for him.

Brian McCann signed his contract before the 2007 season. He got a $1mil signing bonus, a 2007 salary of $500K, 2008 salary of $800K, and a 2009 salary of $3.5 mil. That’s a total of $5.8 mil for McCann from years 2-4.

Jeff Francoeur earned $427K in 2007, $460K in 2008, and $3.375 mil in 2009. That’s a total of $4.26 mil from years 2-4.

McCann earned $1.55 mil more than Francoeur in years 2-4. However, next year, McCann is scheduled to make $5.5 mil. If the Mets offer Francoeur arbitration (and it looks like they will. From the look of things, the NY media loves Francoeur), then Francoeur could very easily double his salary and get awarded between $7-8 mil in arbitration.

To be conservative, let’s say that Francoeur gets $7 mil next year. He will make $1.5 more than McCann in year 5. In 2011, McCann is slated to earn $6.5 mil. Meanwhile, if Francoeur can put together a decent year next year (I know, a big if, but still……..I hate to say this………possible), then he can get another raise to over $10 mil. If that happens, then Francoeur will have earned at least $3.5 mil more than Brian McCann in years 2-6.

Also, while Francoeur will be a free agent after the 2011 season, the Braves have McCann under contract for 2012 at $8.5 mil. A lot can happen between now and then, however given how the Mets like to hand out “big” contracts…….it is not stretching the realm of reality that Francoeur can secure a big free agent contract. All this, despite the fact that McCann is a far “superior” hitter than Jeff Francoeur.

The Braves have a $12 mil option on McCann for the 2013 season. 4 years from now, $12 mil for a power hitting catcher will be a good bargain. As it stands right now, Francoeur will have a hard time ever making $12 mil in a season. However, for a player like Escobar and Jurrjens, if they keep playing the way they are capable of doing, $12 mil will seem like an “insult” to them. And seeing that, it is easy to see how difficult a time the Braves will have when it comes to locking up Escobar, Jurrjens, Tommy Hanson, and if he proves himself, Jason Heyward.

You have to take emotion out of it and look at it logically.

Again, I’m not saying that Brian McCann didnt do the right thing I’m just trying to give you some insight into the “motive” of a player who wants to “get paid”. Bringing up the Francoeur-McCann earnings shows a player who is better than Francoeur (like Escobar and Jurrjens) that if a BUM like Francoeur can end up making more than Brian McCann over a 6 year period…..then there is no telling what they (Escobar and Jurrjens) can make if they play the arbitration game and not give up a year of free agency.

How hard is that to understand?

njbraves

August 16th, 2009
4:04 pm

Now maybe everyone will shut up about the overuse of the bullpen. I doubt it though.

Brandon from Warner Robins

August 16th, 2009
4:06 pm

Good Post, Paul @ 4:03

njbraves

August 16th, 2009
4:06 pm

Paul Lentz…who cares how much Francouer makes next year??? He’s not our problem anymore. You’ve been posting the same exact argument for over two days…give it up.

The Bird and Indian

August 16th, 2009
4:07 pm

McFann ;Ô;

August 16th, 2009
4:08 pm

Thanks for the new Blog, Chief!

joe im just curious…what the heck is that symbol next to your name supposed to be…? all i can think of is that it looks like a turtle

It is a turtle! To be exact, it’s a Rally Turtle. Last year, at the beginning of July, I found a turtle and typed a little thing about him on the Blog. The Braves were playing out West, and anway, the game started to get a little boring. Uga-brave mentioned my turtle, and the next thing you knew, the Braves had a rally. (BMac hit two solo-shots that night as well–the Braves won 9 to…3.)

The next morning I read the Night Blogging about “Rally McTurtle”, and then I figured out how to make a typie that looked like a turtle, so he stuck around.

(I also think of BMac as being like a turtle–slow, kinda shy, and always gives you all he’s got. ;) )

Random

Good point…yah, I’m not a woman just yet. I’ll let that one wait a while…

Me, I’m cool with my age. Sometimes I do forget how old I am, though. :P

kelevra

August 16th, 2009
4:08 pm

brandon from WR

im just going to take your word for it

McFann ;Ô;

August 16th, 2009
4:10 pm

Heath Shame on me… Meant to say: Giants lose!!!!!

Yeah, geez…you gotta watch that!

Who Am I

August 16th, 2009
4:10 pm

Blah…….Blah………….’blah’ ….Blah BLAH, blah blah “blah”. Blah, blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah… “blah”. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah? Blah blah “blah” blah blah blah “blah”, (blah blah blah blah blah).

chilidog75

August 16th, 2009
4:11 pm

Paul,
I think you’re getting WAY ahead of yourself to think the Mets are going to offer Jeff F. arbitration. I hope they do. I’m not going to lie.
But it’s an enormous ‘if.’

I couldn’t imagine spending in the neighborhood of 8 million dollars for an OBP of less than .300 and OPS hovering around .700.

Plus, it’s the risk-reward nature of contracts. McCann, as a catcher, is far more likely to suffer a serious injury than Francoeur was.
There was no guarantee when he signed his deal that he would stay (relatively) healthy and become a perennial all-star. He could’ve hit .200 in 2007 and been out of baseball in 2008, and he’d still be getting paid.

Francoeur took a risk and made chump money for two years (again, relatively speaking) and now may, MAY, get a nice pay day. Or he might be released and never come anywhere close to making what McCann did.
We’ll see.

braves4ever

August 16th, 2009
4:11 pm

Well another Heyward post can’t hurt.
Aside from all the Economic issues and statistics of why or why not, One point that is my biggest factor to consider this:
The Dude is a GAMER, how many of you have played on or been closely involved with a team over the years to see that spirit that a special player brings to a team. Just recently Wellman (his coach) said him showing up at Mississippi has brought a winning presence to the team , having him made everyone better. That’s the big difference you will see when he makes it, he has tools, attitude and presence. All qualities of a winner. The same big game attitude that everyone saw with Tommy Gun. We have had pitchers who had skills, Hitters who had skills and where are they now? We have had a few keepers.
The whole baseball world sees it, his coaches declare it, and time will defend it.
You can’t rationalize that aspect of a player, can’t chart that , you measure it by the accolades, awards and championships he gets over the years . I will be happy if they don’t bring him up till spring, I will buy a jersey and a few tickets if he makes it this playoff season.
Phils, Mets, Marlins ,Nats all lose when he begins here, just like with Hanson.
Folks we Win either way now or spring. That’s what so good about it.

Tomahawkin

August 16th, 2009
4:13 pm

Random…

“from August 13th, 2009 12:28 pm:

Tomahawkin (August 12th, 2009 7:27 pm): “You wanna Raise Me in my saying that Chipper hasn’t been clutch this year…?”

What does that even mean — “Raise Me”? Is it some kind of a trick question? (Like, “Who was US civil rights leader MLK named for?)

Or since you emptily claim that Chipper hasn’t been “clutch” (which you decline to define), are you now simply trying to put the burden on me to disprove your baseless (at least, unsupported by you) claim?

Are you baiting me? That’s okay — I will rise.

I’ve already pointed out to you (and you were unable to refute) the fact that “Chipper has no more control over who’s on base in front of him than he does in ‘deciding’ in which Plate Appearances he’s going to hit a home run.”

That’s the “reasoning” portion of the argument — here’re the “facts” about what Chipper does do when he’s at bat with runners on base::

Chipper has had 417 Plate Appearances this season, during 187 of which there have been runners on base — a total of 242 runners on base during 187 PAs.

Of those 242 baserunners, Chipper has driven in 38 for an OBI percentage of 15.70%. This is good for 3rd place among Braves (minimum 300 PAs) behind McCann, who has driven in 44 baserunners of 275 on base during 199 PAs (16.00%) and Escobar, who has driven in 49 baserunners of 240 on base during 174 PAs (20.42%!). Garrett Anderson is 4th at 15.35% and Martin Prado is next with 14.15%.

Of all NL third basemen with at least 300 Plate Appearances, Chipper is 4th in OBI percentage, behind PSandoval (17.71%), PFeliz (16.67%) and CBlake (16.35%), and ahead of IStewart 15.15% and KKouzmanoff (14.85%). RZimmerman is 7th (14.33%) and DWright is 9th (13.95%).

So, Chipper is top three in “clutchimosiness” among the Braves, and top four among all NL third basemen.

Now, let’s see yours.”

Dude You Know as well as I know that Chipper has been far from clutch this year, especially hitting with runners on base during the late innings. If the braves make the playoffs this year he needs to come correct like he did in 1999

Plus Those stats that you threw up at me were moot. BTW because those situations in which he hits with runners on base do not subtract to the stats in which he hits with R.I.S.P. And better yet hitting with R.I.S.P. from the seventh inning on

You know as well as I know that Chipper has been far from MVP caliber during games from the 7th inning On…

Oh yeah I’m not hating on him but that’s how its been for the last year

Where You At…?

Soph

August 16th, 2009
4:14 pm

lol McFann, I saw the posts about everyone’s age. If it makes you feel better, I thought you were 18 or 19. I was pretty close. :-)

And, T’Hawkin my bad. I thought you were like 35. :-D

Steve from OH

August 16th, 2009
4:14 pm

chilidog–yep, can’t analyze contracts like that in a vacuum. Plus, had Francoeur began his career with any other team, he’d likely have been sent down more than once (and possibly non-tendered), making his likely arbitration value less.

Paul Lentz

August 16th, 2009
4:15 pm

njbraves……….dude, my 4:03pm posting wasnt so much about Francoeur……as it was about trying to explain the difficult time that the Braves will have in trying to offer a “Brian McCann” type contract to our young players like Yunel Escobar, Jair Jurrjens, Tommy Hanson, and possibly Jason Heyward (he still needs to prove that he can rake ML pitching), in order to get them to give up their salary arbitration years and a possible year or two of free agency.

The comparisons of the McCann/Francoeur earnings are things that our youngsters who are more talented than Jeff Francoeur play attention to, especially their agents.

The reason I brought this up is because a number of people on here keep making reference to calling up Jason Heyward right now…….OR having him make the 2010 opening day roster. The economics of such a move would cost the Braves millions. Plus, the “idea” of assuming that the Braves are going to lock up Heyward is, at best, very premature.

If Heyward is indeed a stud like many of you think he is, then it is going to take MUCH MORE than a “Brian McCann contract” to get him to give up his arbitration years.

Doesn't Matter Who You Are

August 16th, 2009
4:16 pm

Who Am I

Whoever you are, you are quite a bit more annoying than the person you are imitating. So…stop.

Paul Lentz

August 16th, 2009
4:16 pm

Brandon from Warner Robins……thanks for the props with your 4:06pm posting.

Lew

August 16th, 2009
4:17 pm

That song will always remind me of the made for TV movie with Kurt Russell (don’t laugh-he was freaking fantastic) as Elvis. He and his band are practicing the song as Priscilla is out of their sight listening and you can tell she’s relating to the lyrics in a really personal manner. Apparently they broke up not too long afterwards. It’s a great movie and is highly recommended.

Heath

August 16th, 2009
4:17 pm

McFann -

Sorry, momentary lapse of sanity there….

njbraves

August 16th, 2009
4:20 pm

Paul Lentz…I know what you’re posting about, but do you have to post about it 50 times a day??

Brian the Brain

August 16th, 2009
4:20 pm

Since Florida and Colorado are playing a double header, if Florida beats Colorado twice, and the Braves win…the Braves would be behind both Florida and Colorado by 1.5 games. Somebody check my math and see if that’s right.

Vinings Jim

August 16th, 2009
4:20 pm

cabravesfan – that song came out the year I began obsessively listening to music, so I heard it quite often on the radio that summer (of course, I was only 4 or 5 at the time) ;)

Paddy?

Paul Lentz

August 16th, 2009
4:22 pm

chilidog75……….again, I didnt say that Brian McCann was foolish to sign the contract back in 2007. I’m saying that the fact that a BUM like Jeff Francoeur could make more than McCann in years 2-6 WILL NOT be lost on players like Escobar, Jurrjens, Hanson, and potentially Heyward.

If the Mets can sign a BUM like Oliver Perez to a 3 year $36 mil contract…..then it would not be a stretch that they would offer Francoeur arbitration. So knowing that, $7-8 mil is very possible for Francoeur in 2010. If they feel that they can build a marketing capaign around Francoeur, especially given how the NY media has responded to him, they may even offer him a 3 or 4 year contract.

Again, we are talking about the METS.

Let me ask you this: Do you think that Escobar and Jurrjens would be smart to accept a “Brian McCann type contract”?

Tomahawkin

August 16th, 2009
4:23 pm

And Please People If we lose Tonight…

Please Refrain from saying “Season Over” knowing that we have 6 more games against the phillies and our last 10 days of the season favor us

I don’t mind people calling Ballgame in the fifth because this offense is so incnsistant but If people want to call “Season Over” In August then get your carcas off the Hooooo-Trrraaaaiiinnnn (Bandwagon) and go to the Falcons/Bulldogs Blogs….

chilidog75

August 16th, 2009
4:24 pm

By the way,
Is it pretty much agreed upon that Hanley Ramirez is the second-best player in baseball?
The guy is 3 for 5 today, with a double and a home run, and is now hitting .357 with 18 home runs, 82 RBIs, 22 stolen bases and has an OPS of .992.

braves4ever

August 16th, 2009
4:25 pm

Brian the Brain, the good thing is we would be 1 back in the loss column if all that happens.

Paul Lentz

August 16th, 2009
4:25 pm

njbraves………if you dont know what I’m posting about, then you should refrain from commenting on it.

At least I take the time to read a posting before I reply to it.

Vinings Jim

August 16th, 2009
4:25 pm

Who was that rooting for Paddy? Sorry, buddy.

joe

August 16th, 2009
4:25 pm

harrington is done

cabravesfan

August 16th, 2009
4:25 pm

VJ-

that was back before you saw the error of your ways now wasn’t it? And how did you start “obsessively” listening to Elvis when you were that young? (because I know you would never deceive the blog about your age now would you?? ) :)

cabravesfan

August 16th, 2009
4:26 pm

Nice chip there Paddy…

Tomahawkin

August 16th, 2009
4:27 pm

Soph…?

LOL, What the Hell, 35?

35, lol I feel degraded…lol

You seem like Your like 27-30, No…?

Steve from OH

August 16th, 2009
4:28 pm

chilidog–given what position he plays, an argument can certainly be made that he’s a lot closer in value to Pujols than most fans would think as well.

Paul Lentz

August 16th, 2009
4:28 pm

quintuple-bogey for Harrington………..that is an 8 on a par 3. John Daly like.

Heath

August 16th, 2009
4:28 pm

joe -

That was just awful… just like last week when he was playnig golf about 40 minutes from my house.

The Bird and Indian

August 16th, 2009
4:29 pm

Tomahawkin: I’m guessing mid 20’s for you.
Soph: Mid to late 20’s.

What about for me everyone?

Steve from OH

August 16th, 2009
4:29 pm

Ouch Paddy. Just…ouch.

Go…well, just lose Tiger.

Tomahawkin

August 16th, 2009
4:30 pm

Gonna Be a close and dramatic game tonight… “Bank On It!”

We Will beat Cy Happ Tonight if we do the following things…

1) Stop swinging for the Fences, Nuff Said we are not in Philly! It seems like with the big crowds our hitters keep swinging for the fences trying to impress cause everyone knows that Chicks dig the longball

2) Make Cy Happ Work! Work the counts so that we can get our licks against Chan Ho Park and his Posse!

B-Macc Made King Cole Hamels Work Yesterday by making him throw around 30 pitches.! Nuff Respect to B-Macc for doing that! What B-Macc did doesn’t show up in the box score but It was a difference in the game

Soph

August 16th, 2009
4:30 pm

lol, I said my bad T’Hawkin. Nah, in all honestly I thought you were 30 at the oldest. I just turned 26 last month.

"Chef" Tim Dix

August 16th, 2009
4:31 pm

Tiger in the sand?
No birdies on par 3’s ALL week?
Guess he does bleed red afterall.

Mid Town Joe

August 16th, 2009
4:31 pm

DOB Can you set-up a seperate blog for the Journalism Majors?

Soph

August 16th, 2009
4:32 pm

Yup, Bird and Indian very good – I’m 26. I would guess you are about 21-25. Am I close?

"Chef" Tim Dix

August 16th, 2009
4:32 pm

I’ll be at the game again tonight.

Vinings Jim

August 16th, 2009
4:32 pm

cabravesfan – darling, I said obsessively listening to music – Elvis just was part of the vast panoply of music I heard (too bad I was too young to make the hundred-fifty mile trip to Bethel 40 years ago this week). And as I look back at my post, perhaps there was a 1missing once or twice – my typing skills are not as good as they used to be.

Heath

August 16th, 2009
4:32 pm

Fish really putting it on the Rocks… 10-3 bases loaded still…. for something like the 6th time today.

Mr. Enigma

August 16th, 2009
4:34 pm

DOB

It’s J.A. Happ, not “A.J. Happ”.

Vinings Jim

August 16th, 2009
4:35 pm

Tiger tried to pull a Paddy…

"Chef" Tim Dix

August 16th, 2009
4:35 pm

DOB, drop by and see me, aisle 323, row 1, seats 101,2,3,4.

chilidog75

August 16th, 2009
4:35 pm

Paul,
Nope. I don’t think they would be smart to accept that deal. But they aren’t catchers — who rarely, if ever, get the big money.

When are Yunel and JJ set to go to arbitration?

lexbrave

August 16th, 2009
4:37 pm

actually by my math the braves can’t end up 2 games out in the wild card tonight but could actually get within 1 and 1/2… the rockies and marlins are playing a double header..

so by my math if the braves win and the marlins sweep the double header then they will move into a tie for 1st in the wc at 64-54 and the braves would be 2 games out in the win column and 1 out in the loss column (1 1/2 out)..if they split the double header then the rockies would end the day at 64-53 and the giants and fish would be tied for 2nd at 63-54 and the braves would be 3 games out in the win column and 2 out i the loss column (2 1/2 out)

i think that make

The Bird and Indian

August 16th, 2009
4:37 pm

Tomahawkin

August 16th, 2009
4:37 pm

Soph

Ha Ha, I’m at the quarter century mark, so it’s all Good!

D.O.B. is old enough to be my daddy, lol

J/K D.O.B.

Steve from OH

August 16th, 2009
4:37 pm

chilidog–Yunel and JJ make the league min next year and go to arb in 2011. But then again, they’d get a contract a bit different than McCann’s–they’d get one more similar to Prince Fielder’s, in that they’d have a good idea of their arb values going in and they’d sign for something similar to what the two parties agree the player would get in arbitration.

"Chef" Tim Dix

August 16th, 2009
4:37 pm

Somebody forgot to tell Y.E. Yang he’s suppose to melt in his presence.

Steve from OH

August 16th, 2009
4:38 pm

I’m now rooting for Soren Kjeldsen.

David O'Brien

August 16th, 2009
4:39 pm

LINEUP:
1. Infante, 2B
2. Prado, 1B
3. Chipper, 3B
4. McCann, C
5. Escobar, SS
6. Anderson, LF
7. Diaz, RF
8. Church, CF
9. Vazquez, your starting pitcher

chilidog75

August 16th, 2009
4:39 pm

Steve,
The guy is flat-out unbelievable. I don’t know how good he is defensively, but man, he’s an offensive force.

Soph

August 16th, 2009
4:39 pm

B & I – no way! I really thought you were older than 21. Ok, then I’m going to go with 18?

cabravesfan

August 16th, 2009
4:39 pm

VJ-

perhaps? I think that might be a possibility :)

"Chef" Tim Dix

August 16th, 2009
4:40 pm

Plenty of ying left in Yang.

kelevra

August 16th, 2009
4:40 pm

chil

hanley is definitely the second best player, with as much as he has improved his defense and the fact that dropping him to the three hole hasnt hurt his running game ( on pace for 30 steals) guy is a monster

Soph

August 16th, 2009
4:40 pm

Thanks for the lineup DOB!

Day off for Roachy, I see.

Steve from OH

August 16th, 2009
4:41 pm

chilidog–he’s not been good according to UZR, but I’d be more interested to see how scouts grade him out defensively. Probably not much more than a 50 defender I’d say.

nolie

August 16th, 2009
4:41 pm

But let’s not be dragging Albert Einstein into it, LOL, when the concept alluded to by the poster above has absolutely nothing to do with baseball as a game. (SCOOTS)

yeah I laugh every time some moron trying to show of posts that. Baseball is the one place where you can indeed expect different things to happen each time you do the same thing. Physical sciences it ain’t. I’ve said the same thing here B4, but not so eloquently.

The Bird and Indian

August 16th, 2009
4:41 pm

Soph: I’m just getting my license. I’ve hidden it long enough. lol

Mixxo

August 16th, 2009
4:41 pm

I’m now rooting for Soren Kjeldsen. – Steve from OH

I’m secretly rooting for my fellow Scandinavians….now that Lucas is falling off.

Efrim

August 16th, 2009
4:42 pm

Top three players in baseball:

Pujols
Mauer
Utley

I’m not taking into consideration age in this. But overall, these three are the best, in my opinion. Is Hanley Ramirez still as bad a defender as he used to be? Can’t imagine the guy got that much better. I’m sure he’ll end up at 3rd or LF before his career is over.

Heath

August 16th, 2009
4:42 pm

Bobby takes LaRoche out against the lefty (not going to argue that)…. but still thinks its wise to put McCann in the 4-hole against a lefty? Would be better if he just swapped McCann and Escobar (so says the numbers).

kelevra

August 16th, 2009
4:42 pm

wow a lineup with only three lefties…how many times has that happened this year

The Bird and Indian

August 16th, 2009
4:43 pm

Good to see Prado in there tonight.

Steve from OH

August 16th, 2009
4:45 pm

Yeah, Chase Utley is seriously the most underrated player in the game today, Efrim. I’d forgotten about him. I would say he’s definitely a more valuable player than Han-Ram. He’s probably pretty close to Pujols in value as well, I’d say.

chilidog75

August 16th, 2009
4:46 pm

I tell ya what, the Yang kid has been pretty impressive.
I get so tired of seeing these weak-minded guys who are paired with Tiger just imploding on themselves in the final round.
He’s actually out-played him so far.

Tomahawkin

August 16th, 2009
4:46 pm

I like Infante Leading off But I want Roachy in there because he has been Clowning over the last 10 days…

kelevra

August 16th, 2009
4:46 pm

hanley has 8 errors this year, yunel has 12….now i know yunel gets to more balls and is actually a better defender but hanley has improved greatly and his getting closer to a flawless player. and pujols mauer and utley will never have his speed ( utley is the closiest)

Tomahawkin

August 16th, 2009
4:47 pm

Add to that I want Loaf Sandwiched between Hoss and B-Macc!

chilidog75

August 16th, 2009
4:47 pm

Steve,
If you were starting a franchise. Who would you take? Ramirez or Utley?

McFann ;Ô;

August 16th, 2009
4:48 pm

Soph If it makes you feel better, I thought you were 18 or 19. I was pretty close.

Haha! Like REAL close…You’re good. :)

Heath Sorry, momentary lapse of sanity there….

I guess so. :roll:

The Bird and Indian I’m just getting my license. I’ve hidden it long enough. lol

Ha! I don’t even have my learner’s permit! :P

I’m so bad…

Soph

August 16th, 2009
4:49 pm

B & I – awww, I was way off. I just saw a previous post where T’Hawkin thought you were 40! That’s funny. Congrats on getting your license by the way! Do you have a car ready to go once you have your license?

The Bird and Indian

August 16th, 2009
4:49 pm

McFann ;Ô;: But I think I’m younger than you?

Steve from OH

August 16th, 2009
4:49 pm

kelevra–Hanley’s defense has never been considered good by scouts (IIRC) and I’d be really surprised if he grades out as anything more than a 50 or 55 defender (though I haven’t seen him play enough at all to make my own judgment; grain of salt).

Given position and defense, I’d take Utley over Hanley right now (h/t Efrim).

McFann ;Ô;

August 16th, 2009
4:49 pm

Efrin Top three players in baseball: Pujols…Mauer…Utley

:roll:

Heywards Heroes

August 16th, 2009
4:49 pm

Im digging this lineup

nolie

August 16th, 2009
4:49 pm

’m on record as saying, I think Heyward will be here in a couple weeks. (KC)

Hot Damn! I’m on record as saying he won’t. We got us a controversy here. May the best man win. ;)

BTW good to see you back since they started winning. The blog needs your optimism more when they are going bad though.

Brian the Brain

August 16th, 2009
4:50 pm

Oh God I just realized…..we’re going to have to listen to Joe Morgan tonight.

The Bird and Indian

August 16th, 2009
4:50 pm

Soph: I haven’t quite gotten it yet. I’m close though. I do have a nice Ford Ranger my dad had that I will be able to use. Yeah Tomahawkin was off just a little bit.

Steve from OH

August 16th, 2009
4:51 pm

chilidog–probably Utley (given identical contracts and club control). I really dig his all-around game. Not a knock on Hanley at all.

Soph

August 16th, 2009
4:52 pm

McFann – I’m impressed, no learners? Most teenagers your age are all over the DMV as soon as they turn 15/16. My friend was the same way though. She got her license when she was 21.

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