One step away from the Phils

(Staff writer Carroll Rogers is filling in for David O’Brien today.)

   Well it’s been a wacky day already, and let’s just hope that doesn’t mean we’re in for rain delays all night and extra innings and who knows what all.

 

   I took the car in to have a tire fixed, filled it full of air long enough to get me to the shop, and on the way there, I took a pebble torpedo to the windshield. (Either that or the sky was really falling.) The crack is directly in front of where my right eye wants to look. So what was going to be a $25 job to patch a tire wound up $250 to replace a windshield. Somebody help?!

   Ah well, what are you gonna do? Cover some baseball….

   The Braves got off to just the start they wanted in this Nationals series last night, winning in 8-1 command. Now they aim to complete the deal tonight, then take a day of rest tomorrow, and get to face the Phillies at Turner Field this weekend with a real sense of confidence (not to mention maybe a chance to be within three games of them – if the Phillies lose the next two games against the Cubs and the Braves win tonight.)

   Craig Stammen, the rookie the Nats have going tonight against Derek Lowe, has had some great moments so far this season. He pitched 6 1/3 shutout innings against the Yankees to collect his first major league win. He pitched a complete game against the Astros, allowing nine hits but only two runs. All well and good, but his last three games have not gone so well.

   Stammen has given up 16 earned runs in his last 9 1/3 innings. That makes him 0-1 with a 15.42 ERA in his last three starts. In his last outing against Florida, he gave up six runs without making it out of the second inning.

   So the Braves might have an opening here, especially for a lineup playing with a good deal of confidence.

   Ryan Church found out in batting practice yesterday that he would be leading off and playing in center field in place of Nate McLouth (hamstring). Hey, no problem, he reaches base four times on two hits and two walks, he doubles in a key run and he scores twice.

   “Any name that Bobby (Cox) writes in the lineup will go out and give quality at-bats,” Church said last night, speaking for himself too.

   Three of his at-bats came against left-hander John Lannan. Cox hasn’t seemed to have much hesitation playing Church against left-handers, even though the typical deal is for Church to platoon with Matt Diaz in right field.

   Just had a look at Church’s breakdown for this season and he’s hitting .304 (68-for-224) vs. righties and .215 (14-for-65) against lefties. But he seems to be able to handle himself OK against lefties, judging by his work bats against Lannan. He grounded out, walked and then doubled in a run on a line drive gapper to right center.

   For his career he’s hit .250 vs. lefties and .282 against righties, with four times as many ABs vs. righties (1225).

   “The more I see them, the more I get comfortable,” Church said of facing left-handers. “It’s one of those things where you play once every couple weeks. People get on you ‘Oh you can’t hit lefties, this and that,’ but Bobby has been good about throwing me in there against lefties, and I’m starting to get comfortable with it.”

 

CHIPPER UP TO 15 HOMERS

 

   Then we have the switch-hitting Chipper Jones showing a little better power stroke left-handed last night. His 405-foot shot off Nationals reliever Tyler Clippard was only his seventh home run left-handed this season. He has eight from his natural, right-handed side.

   Typically Jones has more home runs left-handed because he gets so many more at-bats from that side, but he feels like his power has been off since he had some shoulder problems last year and because of the batting race.

   “My mechanics got so screwed up last year having to play hurt and not really feeling like I could extend on anything,” Jones said. “(And) being in a batting race you’re thinking more hits than you are homers. I just got into some bad habits.”

   Jones said he made an adjustment in San Diego that’s helped.

   “I made an adjustment to get a little taller in the box, a little quieter with my feet, and it’s helping me see the ball a lot better,” Jones said. “And consequently, I’m centering some balls.”

 

PHILLIES PITCHING MATCH-UPS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS:

   I posted these last night but figure they are worth mentioning again:

   Friday: Phillies RHP Joe Blanton (7-6, 4.02 ERA) vs. RHP Jair Jurrjens (9-8, 3.01)

   Saturday: Phillies LHP Cole Hamels (7-7, 4.77) vs. RHP Kenshin Kawakami (5-9, 4.12)

   Sunday: Phillies LHP J.A. Happ (8-2, 2.74) vs. RHP Javier Vazquez (10-7, 2.90).

 

   Also, the Braves would like you to know about a couple of upcoming matters:

 

A) Martin Prado will be signing autographs from 11 a.m. to 12 p.m. on Saturday at the Braves Clubhouse Store at CNN center. (You know all you Prado-backers want to get one.)

B) The Sunday game is at 8:05 p.m. now because of ESPN.

C) Monday’s make-up game vs. Arizona is Dave Ramsey $1 day which means Upper Reserved and Upper Pavilion seats can be had for $1 apiece. You can buy them at www.braves.com/daveramsey or at the Turner Field ticket office.

 

MOYER READING

   Given what the Braves and fans have been through with Tom Glavine and John Smoltz this year, thought it would be an interesting read for you to see how 46-year-old Jamie Moyer has reacted to being put in the bullpen by the Phillies, now that Pedro Martinez is in their rotation (and pitching tonight against the Cubs).  

 

   Here’s what the AP story had on Moyer:

 

   “I feel a little disheartened,” the 22-year veteran said. “I feel a little bit like I’ve been misled. I feel like I’ve played this game long enough that the respect factor should be there.”

   Moyer leads the NL East-leading Phillies in wins and losses with a 10-9 record. His 5.47 ERA is among the highest in the majors.

   Moyer went 16-7 last year and helped the Phillies win the World Series, then signed a $13 million, two-year contract in the offseason. He said that Philadelphia general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. assured him he would not be sent to the bullpen.

   “Ultimately, I’m a little disheartened because I know this past winter, when I was negotiating with the Phillies, this was a sore thumb, if you will, about this potentially happening,” Moyer said. “You can’t promise anything in this game, but I really felt that Ruben kind of parlayed to me that this type of situation would not happen.”

   Moyer was told on Monday he would be going to the bullpen. The recently signed Martinez, a three-time Cy Young winner, will start in his place.

   “When we signed Jamie Moyer in December it was under the pretense of being a starter,” Amaro said in a statement through a team spokesman. “But right now circumstances have changed and that’s why we’re moving him to the bullpen.”

   OK, more from the ‘yard.

 

2,740 comments Add your comment

woogidy

August 12th, 2009
1:35 pm

Mid Town Joe

August 12th, 2009
1:37 pm

Carol, check your deductible on the auto policy, should have only cost you $100.00.

dcraig16

August 12th, 2009
1:39 pm

dcraig16

August 12th, 2009
1:39 pm

dangit i type slowly :p

Bobby's Cox

August 12th, 2009
1:41 pm

Moyer is right, the Phillies should start him. In fact, they should start him Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

TommyP

August 12th, 2009
1:41 pm

Steve from OH: From other blog…Castro has probably been in the organization but hasn’t spent 18 years as their pitching coach. Mike Maddux (a favorite of mine) was there for several years just two years ago.

LOVE Church’s attitude.

McFann :Ô:

August 12th, 2009
1:42 pm

Thanks for the new Blog, Ms. Rogers!

on the way there, I took a pebble torpedo to the windshield.

Oh no…like those SafeLight (or however it’s written) commercials that they play ALL THE FREAKING TIME on this one radio station? OMGosh…I’m sorry, but I deeply despise those commercials.

That’s a real bummer that happened to you, though…

Shamus Thacker

August 12th, 2009
1:43 pm

Bobby’s Cox: Moyer is right, the Phillies should start him. In fact, they should start him Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

I agree Bobby’s, but I think he should also come in from the bullpen to relieve himself in those games…

Bobby's Cox

August 12th, 2009
1:43 pm

Too bad I won’t be in Atl this weekend. Gonna miss the Martin autograph session :(

Would have him sign my left pectoral, then go get it tatted…

McFann :Ô:

August 12th, 2009
1:44 pm

B’s C In fact, they should start him Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

I wish Brett Myers was gonna start all three games…is he still out?

Back-to-back lefties in the Fillies series, though! “Yay!”

:roll:

Aydumb

August 12th, 2009
1:45 pm

McFann :Ô:

August 12th, 2009
1:45 pm

Keeping It Real

August 12th, 2009
1:46 pm

Steve from OH from other blog,

What”s wrong with GA playing every day. His batting average must be at least equal to Church and Diaz. It might even be better than McLouth since he has not exactly been lighting it up lately. GA can flat out hit. What’s your reasoning based on?

Tomahawkin

August 12th, 2009
1:46 pm

If this team makes it to the postseason…Chipper or B-Macc have to go on a roll where either one carries the team for 2 weeks….

Add to that Going against a rookie Pitcher will be tough for the braves

And My Thoughts On Church….He has been a better acquistion than most fans think because he can spell Nate-Dawg A day off when Needed…

And It was sure as hell a good thing to See “O” In there last night….

Bobby's Cox

August 12th, 2009
1:46 pm

Shamus,

Good tactic.

Jim

August 12th, 2009
1:47 pm

Good grief, Jamie Moyer. Maybe you wouldn’t be demoted if you weren’t gettin shelled at a 5.47 ERA clip. Or maybe you had an “understanding” with the GM that your job was safe regardless of how terrible you performed? Must be nice to have that kind of leash. I guess when you’ve played long enough you become entitled to hurt your team.

woogidy

August 12th, 2009
1:47 pm

By the way, these old geysers need to know when to hang it up. C’mon Moyer! You have a 5.47 ERA! How ’bout, “I obviously put the team in a tough spot every time I go to the hill lately, and Ruben has to do what is best for the team right now. That’s the way this game is. When you don’t do your job, you get replaced.” or “Thanks to the Phillies for sticking with me this long, as I have pretty much sucked all year.” I don’t feel sorry for Moyer, Glav, Smoltz, or any other of these guys that just can’t seem to figure out it’s over. Then, when someone else tells them it’s over (or close to it in Moyer’s case), they get upset. THIS ISN’T ABOUT YOU! This is a team game. No one player is bigger than the team! That includes you Moyer. Collect your pension and go home! Kudos to Ruben and FW for having the ba**s to make these kind of moves. I predict if Pedro does well, Moyer gets released. ————- End of rant!

Brett

August 12th, 2009
1:47 pm

haha thats hilarious that chipper said that he had gotten taller in the batter’s box. last night i turned to my dad saying “hmmmm he looks different in there. he’s more upright” and then BOOM! a mamouth no doubter home run!

John

August 12th, 2009
1:47 pm

You don’t have to replace the entire windshield.. If the crack isn’t too big they can spot fix it.. Doesn’t cost nearly as much

Paul Lentz

August 12th, 2009
1:48 pm

RemoW……….due your 11:26am posting about how Frank Wren handled the the Tom Glavine situation is TOTALLY off base.

Glavine was signed in March with the EXPECTATION that he would be ready to start on April 18th. Many of you forget that the 5th spot in the rotation would come up for the first time, given the number of off days early in April. So the Braves gave Tom Glavine time to get ready for his first start.

However he started experiencing shoulder discomfort in April. This was an unexpected development. When he signed, he was supposed to have recovered from last year, whereas with Smoltz it was common knowledge that he wouldnt be able to make it back until mid-June the earliest.

So when Glavine couldnt make his start on April 18th, the Braves called up Jo Jo Reyes to make the start. Meanwhile, Jo Jo sucked as usual. The Braves then called up Kris Medlen, who made a few decent starts.

When Tom Glavine was ready (health) wise to pitch for the big club in early June…..it became apparent to Braves management that his stuff wasnt there. With the fact that Tommy Hanson was ready to be promoted…….Frank Wren made an easy decision and cut Glavine.

The Braves did not do Glavine wrong. Glavine’s shoulder did him wrong. He would have had a chance to pitch in April if his shoulder didnt act up. When Glavine was so to rehab his shoulder, then I feel that the Braves were within their rights to go in a different direction.

I think that it can be safe to say with the success of Tommy Hanson that the Braves did the right thing. The fact that John Schuerholtz had to give that BS press conference the next day (to placate some of the “weak-A$$, sentimental, so-called Braves fans” who caused such an uproar) was pretty sad.

Dont get me wrong. I appreciate what Glavine and Smoltz did for us during their years of service. However, I dont want the Braves to give them “welfare contracts” because of past experiences. I want to see the Braves compete and win games today. TODAY. I pay $200 for the Extra Innings package on Direct TV every year because I have a “hope” that the Braves are going to do their best to win games. If they lose, I can accept that. However, what I CANNOT ACCEPT is Braves management putting an “old timers” team out there, just so some phony Braves fans can feel good about the “good old days”.

If I wanted to “reminisce” about the past, I’d go to Youtube and type in “Sid Bream slide” if I want to “re-live” the past Braves glory. That, I can do for free.

Brett

August 12th, 2009
1:48 pm

chipper is on a role since he made these adjustments. it is only two games but hes had multiple hit games in both and homered in both…maybe the start of something for the braves legend?

Steve from OH

August 12th, 2009
1:49 pm

Definitely not batting average, Keeping It Real.

Ben

August 12th, 2009
1:49 pm

Carol———– I know every state has different insurance regulations, but here in Florida cracked windshields are covered 100% with no deductible. I would check with your insurance agent.

McFann :Ô:

August 12th, 2009
1:49 pm

Tomahawkin If this team makes it to the postseason…Chipper or B-Macc have to go on a roll where either one carries the team for 2 weeks….

Sounds like a plann! Let’s all sign a petition and send it to them…Chipper has been doing pretty good lately, though.

Bobby's Cox

August 12th, 2009
1:51 pm

Are we going to get the humbling, young & pure McFann today, or the older, crude, belligerent one?

Time will tell ;)

Alex

August 12th, 2009
1:52 pm

The Braves better take care of business tonight and win so they can start the Phils series with alot of confidence and maybe trim this lead.

McFann :Ô:

August 12th, 2009
1:54 pm

B’s C

Depends on how BMac does tonight. :P

Tomahawk Talk

August 12th, 2009
1:54 pm

move b-mac to 5th!

Church/McLouth
Prado
Chipper
Anderson
McCann
Yunel
LaRoche
McLouth/Diaz

woogidy

August 12th, 2009
1:55 pm

Very well said Paul Lentz. 100% agree with you. I am happy the Braves have a GM who has the gonads to do it. Cutting Norton would be nice, but I think Cox talked him out of it.

McFann :Ô:

August 12th, 2009
1:55 pm

Tomahawk Talk move b-mac to 5th!

Yeah!

SC Will

August 12th, 2009
1:55 pm

Caroll, I’ve noticed Chipper often hits a homer in the game directly after he has sat out for at least 2 games (like he did last night.) Any stats on that phenomenon? Any thoughts on why he might have that proclivity (other than the fact that he is the Hoss…)?

UNCBrave

August 12th, 2009
1:56 pm

OK, Church is not a lead-off hitter, although he is a better #8 hitter IMO b/c he works the count and gets walks which means the pitcher bunts behind him and the top of the order can drive him in. ALSO, EScobar should hit clean-up to mix-up the lefties..

Stammen is a RIGHTY..

CF McLouth
2B Prado
3B Chipper
SS Escobar
C McCann
LF Anderson
1B LaRoche
RF Church
P Lowe

Keeping It Real

August 12th, 2009
1:57 pm

Steve From Ohio,

If not batting average, then what? If you go defense, then maybe you have not been watching Diaz, Church and McLouth trying to catch balls against the fence and/or in the gaps. What are the batting averages for the Braves outfield? Does anyone on this blog know?

MFin04

August 12th, 2009
1:58 pm

Not a good idea to look past the Nats tonight, they always seem to be a nemesis to the Braves. Hopefully our “Ace” can pitch like an ace tonight. 3-0 since the break with a 3 to 4 era.

Tomahawk1310

August 12th, 2009
2:01 pm

Carroll

Any updates on McLouth? Was it a one more night deal or a day by day and see how its feeling?

Tomahawkin

August 12th, 2009
2:02 pm

McFann

Pardon Me, Sugar-Bopp-Honey-Bunn…!

I Don’t Mean To Intercept…? But I like Roachy In The Fifth Spot Since He is A way Better hitter in the Second half than the first…

Plus I’d Rather have another threat deeper in the order…

Tomahawkin

August 12th, 2009
2:04 pm

SC Will

I’m Not Hating on Chipper but Can we get some Clutch 3 Run Bombs From him…? He hit another meaningless homer last night in a blowout win against a rookie pitcher…Again I’m not hating on Chipper but he needs to Go off against the phillies this weekend…

If we are going to make it into October we need him to get his Swerve On against the Phillies much like he did the mets in his 1999 MVP Season

Carroll Rogers

August 12th, 2009
2:05 pm

Thanks you guys, I did check with my insurance and they will cover what’s beyond my $250 deductible. I’m actually really happy with my insurance company, i just switched within the last year, and they were very helpful today getting things set up. It just kinda stinks.

And John, i’m with you. If it were anywhere but right in front of my eyeballs on the windshield I would have had them patch it up, but short of leaning to the left while I’m driving, it’s in my path of vision and right at the level where you look at the road. Fate hit the bullseye.

Tomahawk1310

August 12th, 2009
2:06 pm

I agree with UNCBrave. Let’s not go crazy and start a Church for lead-off petition. Remember the other night when McLouth walked in the 9th and stole second and came in with the tying run to go into extra and eventually win. I don’t think Church would’ve been able to steal that base.

Bobby's Cox

August 12th, 2009
2:06 pm

There’s been so many names thrown around here about the 5th spot lately. Esco, BMac, GA, LaRoche, McLouth. Seems like we have a whole team of #5 hitters…

Sponge

August 12th, 2009
2:06 pm

Saw Gwinnett Braves regain possession of first place last night on tv. Carlyle 2 innings, 0 hits, 0 walks & stuck out 5 of 6 batters faced with 90-93mph fastballs. Came in 8th & 9th with team down by one mowin’ durham batters down left & right. Jones & Gorecki solo homers in 9th for walk-off & Carlyle gets the win. Nice to see some serious zip on Buddy’s fastball.

Steve from OH

August 12th, 2009
2:06 pm

If not batting average, then what?

I don’t want to sound like a jerk, but that’s not a serious question, is it?

Also, you must not be watching GA play defense either…

Steve from OH

August 12th, 2009
2:08 pm

Carroll–you’re not with Progressive, are you? We’re with them and we really like ‘em.

Eric from MO

August 12th, 2009
2:09 pm

Keeping it Real I said I want GA and Church playing against righties and against lefties alternate them off with Diaz. My reasoning is GA is not a young player and it is the dog days of the season.

Jeremy

August 12th, 2009
2:09 pm

With the way Church has been hitting, why not continue hitting him there then move McLouth down to 5th or 7th and try to maximize his power and get him going again. McLouth really hasn’t been all that effective hitting leadoff…

Nova Scotia Steve

August 12th, 2009
2:09 pm

That middle game of the Phillies series makes me want to throw up…

Reality

August 12th, 2009
2:10 pm

Steve – 90% of the time you sound like a jerk.

Steve from OH

August 12th, 2009
2:12 pm

You can also find all of the stats you’d ever want at baseball-reference (.com)

baseballprospectus.com

fangraphs.com

Carroll Rogers

August 12th, 2009
2:13 pm

USAA, actually

owl hunter

August 12th, 2009
2:14 pm

Kawakami is always up against an ace. He often rises to the occasion. Could this be on purpose?

LOSTlover

August 12th, 2009
2:15 pm

We need the Kawakami that pitched in LA. Or as someone said, the “Roy Halliday Kawakami”.

Steve from OH

August 12th, 2009
2:15 pm

Reality, I’m guessing you’re one of the folks that consistenly say stupid things around here, no? That would explain a lot.

Love the name change.

Biff Pocaroba

August 12th, 2009
2:15 pm

Thanks for the new blog Carol. FWIW, Chipper’s HR last night was off of Clippard, not Kensing.

MFin04

August 12th, 2009
2:16 pm

Infante would also be a great option for leadoff if we wanted to move Nate down in the order.

Nova Scotia Steve

August 12th, 2009
2:17 pm

Let’s just hope its not the Florida Marlins Kawakami…

Medlen…be ready

Jaglawyer

August 12th, 2009
2:18 pm

Carroll: Free legal advice of the day: When you call your insurance company again, ask them to discuss your uninsured motorist coverage. For practically pennies more than you are probably paying, you can increase your coverage in the event some A-hole hits you with no insurance and you are stuck only receiving Georgia minimums . . .If I settle one more case for a minimum policy I’ll throw up.

Lentz: Good “book report” on Wren and Glavine issue. Couldn’t agree more, and if I recall, didn’t Glavine reinjure himself swinging a bat?

Garrett Anderson gave an interview on the Jim Rome Show today. (No it was not 5 minutes of silent air time) He came on as I was turning off the car. Did anyone hear him (I’ve never heard the guy talk) and if so can you post a summary of what he said? Thanks.

Brooklyn Braves Brawler

August 12th, 2009
2:18 pm

Nova Scotia Steve,

That’s the kind of game that KK wins or has a great outing in. I am actually less worried about that game. More worried about the Blanton vs. JJ game. JJ has been struggling lately and Blanton has pitched well the last couple of starts.

dcraig16

August 12th, 2009
2:19 pm

carroll: i have usaa also, they are awesome.

Carroll Rogers

August 12th, 2009
2:19 pm

dang you’re right Biff, I saw 26 and not 36 in my book. let me change that.

bravesgrl4life

August 12th, 2009
2:20 pm

Jaglawyer, good to see you back on the blog. Missed you on the last couple I’ve been able to read.

owl hunter

August 12th, 2009
2:20 pm

Jaglawyer

Loaf basically tried to sound as professional as possible about not particularly caring much about being a Brave. He’s just doing a job. He doesn’t care. What’s with the Angels and their ‘tudes?

Jaglawyer

August 12th, 2009
2:21 pm

I represent the silent majority and usually only post when I see something off the wall . . .

Reality

August 12th, 2009
2:22 pm

There is no need to be a jerk to other people. This isn’t third grade. Just post the sites and let people research their own stats. No need to call them out and be a jerk.

Whether you are right or wrong about a topic you can still be civil, no need for belittling people.

You may have more knowledge than people on here. Help them, guide them, but don’t be a jerk to them.

MFin04

August 12th, 2009
2:24 pm

I wouldn’t say Jair is struggling, more like getting hosed by umpires who obviously have some vendetta against the Braves.

Nova Scotia Steve

August 12th, 2009
2:25 pm

I don’t know if its fair to say “its the kind of game KK wins”…I mean he’s had two amazing starts of them…The Blue Jays back in May and the Dodgers…out of 16 or 17 starts.

Like yeah the guy has stepped up…his biggest game of the year more than likely being the Dodger game…because of timing.

But twice he’s pitched himself a gem and three months in between them??? Like c’mon

I don’t think that proves he’s a big game pitcher…I don’t even think its remotely close…

Jaglawyer

August 12th, 2009
2:25 pm

Owl Hunter: Thanks for the recap. It would have been hilarious if Rome referred to him as Loaf, his blog nickname. I had to drop a “are you f**king kidding me” bomb last night when I saw his **cough** attempt to catch **cough** that fly ball last night. Thankfully he can still hit.

Steve from OH

August 12th, 2009
2:27 pm

Al Leiter with a great take on pitching mechanics:

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=5904795

The MLB Network has really been a pleasant surprise.

Eric from MO

August 12th, 2009
2:27 pm

Nova he has an ERA under 4 since April. I dont think that is the only good starts he has had, but believe what you want. It could be that maybe he gets the least run support in baseball, but whatever.

ernesto

August 12th, 2009
2:28 pm

I wonder what kind of interest Bill Hall will get. Certainly someone will be picking up Hardy.

Brewers eating Hall’s salary for this year, but I guess any team that picks him up is on the hook for the 8 mil he’s owed next year.

TommyP

August 12th, 2009
2:28 pm

Was it yesterday that the Milwaukee GM said it would take a #1 or #2 starter to pry JJ Hardy from them?

And then he’s shipped off to the minors today. :)

Jaglawyer

August 12th, 2009
2:29 pm

LOSTlover

August 12th, 2009
2:15 pm
We need the Kawakami that pitched in LA. Or as someone said, the “Roy Halliday Kawakami”.
———-
I’d settle for the “Roy Hobbs Kawakami” . . .

owl hunter

August 12th, 2009
2:29 pm

Yeah. I was dissapointed in Loaf for not making me think the things we say about him on this blog were false. He seemed to kind of like Cox, but he probably can’t wait to get out of here. The only time he lit up was when they were talking about the Angels’ WS victory. Rome is and LA guy, too.

Nova Scotia Steve

August 12th, 2009
2:30 pm

Eric from MO

So its from his ERA is 4.12…As far as I know the season begins in April…but whatever

trey

August 12th, 2009
2:30 pm

Carroll, nice, I am with USAA, also.

Steve from OH

August 12th, 2009
2:30 pm

Who do I excessively call out that doesn’t deserve it? Save for the folks that consistently say off-the-wall stupid things. Then yeah, I get annoyed. It’s mostly a select group.

For the large majority of folks I am civil. If I haven’t seen ‘em post before, I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt, like the guy I just posted back to.

But whatever. I’m guessing you are one of those select folks, so whatever floats your boat, buddy. I couldn’t care less.

owl hunter

August 12th, 2009
2:30 pm

Eric, I’m with you on KK. People are looking at his record, and not his overall performance, especially lately.

trey

August 12th, 2009
2:32 pm

They are really good for the military or ex military and I plan on sticking with USAA after I get out of the service.

Steve from OH

August 12th, 2009
2:32 pm

I think Loaf cares, guys, I think it just doesn’t look that way because I think he’s got the quiet kind of personality. And his butchery in LF. It’s always funny that people think bad or unathletic or slow players look like they’re not trying but in reality is just that they’re bad or slow.

LOSTlover

August 12th, 2009
2:33 pm

KK has pitched decently as of late. Last game was a gem. I would prefer they move Vasquez back to Saturday and pitch Hanson on Sunday on regular rest due to Thursday’s off day.

We don’t just need a “quality start” from KK…

Rob from SC

August 12th, 2009
2:33 pm

Nova Scotia Steve

I understand your concern over Kawakami.

We could always go with
Jurrjens
Vazquez
Hanson

all on proper rest

Shamus Thacker

August 12th, 2009
2:34 pm

woogidy, your 1:47 is like it was extracted from my brain….

You got ESP?

RHR

August 12th, 2009
2:35 pm

Hold up. Loaf was on Rome!? Today?!

Tomahawkin

August 12th, 2009
2:36 pm

Co-Sign On KK!

His Stats are misleading because he never gets no run support when he pitches…

He should have at least 10 wins by now…!

owl hunter

August 12th, 2009
2:36 pm

We need to hit more for KK. That’s the best solution. The rotation is doing well. Not need to change the rhythm.

Ronald Millsaps

August 12th, 2009
2:36 pm

The Braves have shown more substance lately than they’ve shown in years, and they get 19,000-plus fans to encourage their production.

Granted, you’re supposed to work to develop your God-given talent despite the peripheral issues; I’m not in any way saying otherwise, just that seeing some attendance would be nice. This team really is legitimately good!

It’d be nice if the Braves reacquired John Smoltz, if he becomes available.

LET’S GO, BRAVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nova Scotia Steve

August 12th, 2009
2:37 pm

We could always go with
Jurrjens
Vazquez
Hanson

all on proper rest

This is the way to go…I am an firm believer…been saying it all week…

Throw Kawakami against the D-Backs in that make-up game…where one of his “quality starts” may get us a W…

Eric from MO

August 12th, 2009
2:37 pm

But he has had great starts since April, you make it sound like only two. I guess if they have a bad 1st month adjusting to a new country, new mound, new players they must be bums and should never be judged on anything but that first month.

owl hunter

August 12th, 2009
2:38 pm

Loaf might care, but it’s because he cares about playing baseball in general. He didn’t mention a teammate, and only mentioned Cox when prompted by Rome. He didn’t come off as a great teammate.

owl hunter

August 12th, 2009
2:39 pm

Oh lord. Here come the Smoltz people.

Nova Scotia Steve

August 12th, 2009
2:39 pm

I know personally…During both games Kawakami threw “his heart out” — give me a break — I almost s*it my pants – both times –

I was in utter dis-belief at what just took place

Reality

August 12th, 2009
2:40 pm

Steve – You weren’t civil to him and you hadn’t seen him post before, but you simply said off-the-wall jerky things to him.

When you have to preface with : “I’m not trying to be a jerk”….You are being a jerk. Just FYI.

You all are Cox apologists

August 12th, 2009
2:41 pm

It’s amazing that the Nationals are so bad when THEY HAVE A BETTER LINEUP THAN THE BRAVES. They have scored more runs than the Braves and they will have two guys in their lineup with over 100 rbis (Dunn and Zimmerman). If they had better pitching, the Nationals, yes, the Nationals could even challenge for the divison. They’re not as bad as their record indicates, as winning 8 in a row before last night proved that.

owl hunter

August 12th, 2009
2:43 pm

The Nationals have put up better offensive numbers than the Braves, but the Braves have played better ball since the break. Let’s go with what they’re doing now, not what they did in the earlier parts of the season.

MFin04

August 12th, 2009
2:44 pm

Loaf is darn awful in left…absolutely horrid. Matt Diaz in right…hmm…he at times…looks just as bad.

Brooklyn Braves Brawler

August 12th, 2009
2:45 pm

KK gave up 3runs in 6IP against SD and probably should have won that game if the team could hit their weight that night. KK has had more than a handful of starts where he has pitched well and runs have not been scored. KK, Javy,and JJ have all pitched in bad luck this season.

You are right that JJ has had some call go against him but, we gotta be fair if we are measuring him with the same stick that we measure KK. KK and JJ could have very similar records if runs were scored in their starts.

Jaglawyer

August 12th, 2009
2:45 pm

Dear John Smoltz:

Go back to the Braves. They could use someone in the 6th or 7th innings in mop up roles.

Signed,
Willie Mays (Met)
Joe Namath (Ram)
Every other washed up athlete who thought he or she had “one more in the tank”

Eric from MO

August 12th, 2009
2:45 pm

You all alot of teams would be better with better pitching. However, pitching is hard to get, which is why Wren was smart the way he built the Braves.

Steve from OH

August 12th, 2009
2:46 pm

When you have to preface with : “I’m not trying to be a jerk”….You are being a jerk. Just FYI.

Nah, it just give gadflies like you an opportunity to do the same. Just FYI.

Andrew in P-tang

August 12th, 2009
2:46 pm

come home to atlanta smoltzy boy…whooaaaaa….lets go braves,lets go braves …first place here we come and we aint never looking back…yessssirrrr

You all are Cox apologists

August 12th, 2009
2:48 pm

The Braves haven’t won more than 5 in a row all season. The Braves cannot afford to give back any games in the division or wildcard race. I feel we HAVE TO win just about every series from here until the end of the season to REALLY have a shot. It’s hard trying to jump teams that you are behind when they are playing each other because somebody has to win and that will be the team you won’t gain any ground on. Unfortunately, I can’t RELINQUISH THE THOUGHT OF BOBBY COX DOING SOMETHING TO KILL THEIR MOMENTUM.

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