(Staff writer Carroll Rogers is filling in for David O’Brien today.)
Well it’s been a wacky day already, and let’s just hope that doesn’t mean we’re in for rain delays all night and extra innings and who knows what all.
I took the car in to have a tire fixed, filled it full of air long enough to get me to the shop, and on the way there, I took a pebble torpedo to the windshield. (Either that or the sky was really falling.) The crack is directly in front of where my right eye wants to look. So what was going to be a $25 job to patch a tire wound up $250 to replace a windshield. Somebody help?!
Ah well, what are you gonna do? Cover some baseball….
The Braves got off to just the start they wanted in this Nationals series last night, winning in 8-1 command. Now they aim to complete the deal tonight, then take a day of rest tomorrow, and get to face the Phillies at Turner Field this weekend with a real sense of confidence (not to mention maybe a chance to be within three games of them – if the Phillies lose the next two games against the Cubs and the Braves win tonight.)
Craig Stammen, the rookie the Nats have going tonight against Derek Lowe, has had some great moments so far this season. He pitched 6 1/3 shutout innings against the Yankees to collect his first major league win. He pitched a complete game against the Astros, allowing nine hits but only two runs. All well and good, but his last three games have not gone so well.
Stammen has given up 16 earned runs in his last 9 1/3 innings. That makes him 0-1 with a 15.42 ERA in his last three starts. In his last outing against Florida, he gave up six runs without making it out of the second inning.
So the Braves might have an opening here, especially for a lineup playing with a good deal of confidence.
Ryan Church found out in batting practice yesterday that he would be leading off and playing in center field in place of Nate McLouth (hamstring). Hey, no problem, he reaches base four times on two hits and two walks, he doubles in a key run and he scores twice.
“Any name that Bobby (Cox) writes in the lineup will go out and give quality at-bats,” Church said last night, speaking for himself too.
Three of his at-bats came against left-hander John Lannan. Cox hasn’t seemed to have much hesitation playing Church against left-handers, even though the typical deal is for Church to platoon with Matt Diaz in right field.
Just had a look at Church’s breakdown for this season and he’s hitting .304 (68-for-224) vs. righties and .215 (14-for-65) against lefties. But he seems to be able to handle himself OK against lefties, judging by his work bats against Lannan. He grounded out, walked and then doubled in a run on a line drive gapper to right center.
For his career he’s hit .250 vs. lefties and .282 against righties, with four times as many ABs vs. righties (1225).
“The more I see them, the more I get comfortable,” Church said of facing left-handers. “It’s one of those things where you play once every couple weeks. People get on you ‘Oh you can’t hit lefties, this and that,’ but Bobby has been good about throwing me in there against lefties, and I’m starting to get comfortable with it.”
CHIPPER UP TO 15 HOMERS
Then we have the switch-hitting Chipper Jones showing a little better power stroke left-handed last night. His 405-foot shot off Nationals reliever Tyler Clippard was only his seventh home run left-handed this season. He has eight from his natural, right-handed side.
Typically Jones has more home runs left-handed because he gets so many more at-bats from that side, but he feels like his power has been off since he had some shoulder problems last year and because of the batting race.
“My mechanics got so screwed up last year having to play hurt and not really feeling like I could extend on anything,” Jones said. “(And) being in a batting race you’re thinking more hits than you are homers. I just got into some bad habits.”
Jones said he made an adjustment in San Diego that’s helped.
“I made an adjustment to get a little taller in the box, a little quieter with my feet, and it’s helping me see the ball a lot better,” Jones said. “And consequently, I’m centering some balls.”
PHILLIES PITCHING MATCH-UPS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS:
I posted these last night but figure they are worth mentioning again:
Friday: Phillies RHP Joe Blanton (7-6, 4.02 ERA) vs. RHP Jair Jurrjens (9-8, 3.01)
Saturday: Phillies LHP Cole Hamels (7-7, 4.77) vs. RHP Kenshin Kawakami (5-9, 4.12)
Sunday: Phillies LHP J.A. Happ (8-2, 2.74) vs. RHP Javier Vazquez (10-7, 2.90).
Also, the Braves would like you to know about a couple of upcoming matters:
A) Martin Prado will be signing autographs from 11 a.m. to 12 p.m. on Saturday at the Braves Clubhouse Store at CNN center. (You know all you Prado-backers want to get one.)
B) The Sunday game is at 8:05 p.m. now because of ESPN.
C) Monday’s make-up game vs. Arizona is Dave Ramsey $1 day which means Upper Reserved and Upper Pavilion seats can be had for $1 apiece. You can buy them at www.braves.com/daveramsey or at the Turner Field ticket office.
MOYER READING
Given what the Braves and fans have been through with Tom Glavine and John Smoltz this year, thought it would be an interesting read for you to see how 46-year-old Jamie Moyer has reacted to being put in the bullpen by the Phillies, now that Pedro Martinez is in their rotation (and pitching tonight against the Cubs).
Here’s what the AP story had on Moyer:
“I feel a little disheartened,” the 22-year veteran said. “I feel a little bit like I’ve been misled. I feel like I’ve played this game long enough that the respect factor should be there.”
Moyer leads the NL East-leading Phillies in wins and losses with a 10-9 record. His 5.47 ERA is among the highest in the majors.
Moyer went 16-7 last year and helped the Phillies win the World Series, then signed a $13 million, two-year contract in the offseason. He said that Philadelphia general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. assured him he would not be sent to the bullpen.
“Ultimately, I’m a little disheartened because I know this past winter, when I was negotiating with the Phillies, this was a sore thumb, if you will, about this potentially happening,” Moyer said. “You can’t promise anything in this game, but I really felt that Ruben kind of parlayed to me that this type of situation would not happen.”
Moyer was told on Monday he would be going to the bullpen. The recently signed Martinez, a three-time Cy Young winner, will start in his place.
“When we signed Jamie Moyer in December it was under the pretense of being a starter,” Amaro said in a statement through a team spokesman. “But right now circumstances have changed and that’s why we’re moving him to the bullpen.”
OK, more from the ‘yard.
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woogidy
August 12th, 2009
1:35 pm
FIRST! yay!
Mid Town Joe
August 12th, 2009
1:37 pm
Carol, check your deductible on the auto policy, should have only cost you $100.00.
dcraig16
August 12th, 2009
1:39 pm
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dcraig16
August 12th, 2009
1:39 pm
dangit i type slowly :p
Bobby's Cox
August 12th, 2009
1:41 pm
Moyer is right, the Phillies should start him. In fact, they should start him Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
TommyP
August 12th, 2009
1:41 pm
Steve from OH: From other blog…Castro has probably been in the organization but hasn’t spent 18 years as their pitching coach. Mike Maddux (a favorite of mine) was there for several years just two years ago.
LOVE Church’s attitude.
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
1:42 pm
Thanks for the new Blog, Ms. Rogers!
on the way there, I took a pebble torpedo to the windshield.
Oh no…like those SafeLight (or however it’s written) commercials that they play ALL THE FREAKING TIME on this one radio station? OMGosh…I’m sorry, but I deeply despise those commercials.
That’s a real bummer that happened to you, though…
Shamus Thacker
August 12th, 2009
1:43 pm
Bobby’s Cox: Moyer is right, the Phillies should start him. In fact, they should start him Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
I agree Bobby’s, but I think he should also come in from the bullpen to relieve himself in those games…
Bobby's Cox
August 12th, 2009
1:43 pm
Too bad I won’t be in Atl this weekend. Gonna miss the Martin autograph session
Would have him sign my left pectoral, then go get it tatted…
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
1:44 pm
B’s C In fact, they should start him Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
I wish Brett Myers was gonna start all three games…is he still out?
Back-to-back lefties in the Fillies series, though! “Yay!”
Aydumb
August 12th, 2009
1:45 pm
second!
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
1:45 pm
Twelfth!
Keeping It Real
August 12th, 2009
1:46 pm
Steve from OH from other blog,
What”s wrong with GA playing every day. His batting average must be at least equal to Church and Diaz. It might even be better than McLouth since he has not exactly been lighting it up lately. GA can flat out hit. What’s your reasoning based on?
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
1:46 pm
If this team makes it to the postseason…Chipper or B-Macc have to go on a roll where either one carries the team for 2 weeks….
Add to that Going against a rookie Pitcher will be tough for the braves
And My Thoughts On Church….He has been a better acquistion than most fans think because he can spell Nate-Dawg A day off when Needed…
And It was sure as hell a good thing to See “O” In there last night….
Bobby's Cox
August 12th, 2009
1:46 pm
Shamus,
Good tactic.
Jim
August 12th, 2009
1:47 pm
Good grief, Jamie Moyer. Maybe you wouldn’t be demoted if you weren’t gettin shelled at a 5.47 ERA clip. Or maybe you had an “understanding” with the GM that your job was safe regardless of how terrible you performed? Must be nice to have that kind of leash. I guess when you’ve played long enough you become entitled to hurt your team.
woogidy
August 12th, 2009
1:47 pm
By the way, these old geysers need to know when to hang it up. C’mon Moyer! You have a 5.47 ERA! How ’bout, “I obviously put the team in a tough spot every time I go to the hill lately, and Ruben has to do what is best for the team right now. That’s the way this game is. When you don’t do your job, you get replaced.” or “Thanks to the Phillies for sticking with me this long, as I have pretty much sucked all year.” I don’t feel sorry for Moyer, Glav, Smoltz, or any other of these guys that just can’t seem to figure out it’s over. Then, when someone else tells them it’s over (or close to it in Moyer’s case), they get upset. THIS ISN’T ABOUT YOU! This is a team game. No one player is bigger than the team! That includes you Moyer. Collect your pension and go home! Kudos to Ruben and FW for having the ba**s to make these kind of moves. I predict if Pedro does well, Moyer gets released. ————- End of rant!
Brett
August 12th, 2009
1:47 pm
haha thats hilarious that chipper said that he had gotten taller in the batter’s box. last night i turned to my dad saying “hmmmm he looks different in there. he’s more upright” and then BOOM! a mamouth no doubter home run!
John
August 12th, 2009
1:47 pm
You don’t have to replace the entire windshield.. If the crack isn’t too big they can spot fix it.. Doesn’t cost nearly as much
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
1:48 pm
RemoW……….due your 11:26am posting about how Frank Wren handled the the Tom Glavine situation is TOTALLY off base.
Glavine was signed in March with the EXPECTATION that he would be ready to start on April 18th. Many of you forget that the 5th spot in the rotation would come up for the first time, given the number of off days early in April. So the Braves gave Tom Glavine time to get ready for his first start.
However he started experiencing shoulder discomfort in April. This was an unexpected development. When he signed, he was supposed to have recovered from last year, whereas with Smoltz it was common knowledge that he wouldnt be able to make it back until mid-June the earliest.
So when Glavine couldnt make his start on April 18th, the Braves called up Jo Jo Reyes to make the start. Meanwhile, Jo Jo sucked as usual. The Braves then called up Kris Medlen, who made a few decent starts.
When Tom Glavine was ready (health) wise to pitch for the big club in early June…..it became apparent to Braves management that his stuff wasnt there. With the fact that Tommy Hanson was ready to be promoted…….Frank Wren made an easy decision and cut Glavine.
The Braves did not do Glavine wrong. Glavine’s shoulder did him wrong. He would have had a chance to pitch in April if his shoulder didnt act up. When Glavine was so to rehab his shoulder, then I feel that the Braves were within their rights to go in a different direction.
I think that it can be safe to say with the success of Tommy Hanson that the Braves did the right thing. The fact that John Schuerholtz had to give that BS press conference the next day (to placate some of the “weak-A$$, sentimental, so-called Braves fans” who caused such an uproar) was pretty sad.
Dont get me wrong. I appreciate what Glavine and Smoltz did for us during their years of service. However, I dont want the Braves to give them “welfare contracts” because of past experiences. I want to see the Braves compete and win games today. TODAY. I pay $200 for the Extra Innings package on Direct TV every year because I have a “hope” that the Braves are going to do their best to win games. If they lose, I can accept that. However, what I CANNOT ACCEPT is Braves management putting an “old timers” team out there, just so some phony Braves fans can feel good about the “good old days”.
If I wanted to “reminisce” about the past, I’d go to Youtube and type in “Sid Bream slide” if I want to “re-live” the past Braves glory. That, I can do for free.
Brett
August 12th, 2009
1:48 pm
chipper is on a role since he made these adjustments. it is only two games but hes had multiple hit games in both and homered in both…maybe the start of something for the braves legend?
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
1:49 pm
Definitely not batting average, Keeping It Real.
Ben
August 12th, 2009
1:49 pm
Carol———– I know every state has different insurance regulations, but here in Florida cracked windshields are covered 100% with no deductible. I would check with your insurance agent.
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
1:49 pm
Tomahawkin If this team makes it to the postseason…Chipper or B-Macc have to go on a roll where either one carries the team for 2 weeks….
Sounds like a plann! Let’s all sign a petition and send it to them…Chipper has been doing pretty good lately, though.
Bobby's Cox
August 12th, 2009
1:51 pm
Are we going to get the humbling, young & pure McFann today, or the older, crude, belligerent one?
Time will tell
Alex
August 12th, 2009
1:52 pm
The Braves better take care of business tonight and win so they can start the Phils series with alot of confidence and maybe trim this lead.
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
1:54 pm
B’s C–
Depends on how BMac does tonight.
Tomahawk Talk
August 12th, 2009
1:54 pm
move b-mac to 5th!
Church/McLouth
Prado
Chipper
Anderson
McCann
Yunel
LaRoche
McLouth/Diaz
woogidy
August 12th, 2009
1:55 pm
Very well said Paul Lentz. 100% agree with you. I am happy the Braves have a GM who has the gonads to do it. Cutting Norton would be nice, but I think Cox talked him out of it.
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
1:55 pm
Tomahawk Talk move b-mac to 5th!
Yeah!
SC Will
August 12th, 2009
1:55 pm
Caroll, I’ve noticed Chipper often hits a homer in the game directly after he has sat out for at least 2 games (like he did last night.) Any stats on that phenomenon? Any thoughts on why he might have that proclivity (other than the fact that he is the Hoss…)?
UNCBrave
August 12th, 2009
1:56 pm
OK, Church is not a lead-off hitter, although he is a better #8 hitter IMO b/c he works the count and gets walks which means the pitcher bunts behind him and the top of the order can drive him in. ALSO, EScobar should hit clean-up to mix-up the lefties..
Stammen is a RIGHTY..
CF McLouth
2B Prado
3B Chipper
SS Escobar
C McCann
LF Anderson
1B LaRoche
RF Church
P Lowe
Keeping It Real
August 12th, 2009
1:57 pm
Steve From Ohio,
If not batting average, then what? If you go defense, then maybe you have not been watching Diaz, Church and McLouth trying to catch balls against the fence and/or in the gaps. What are the batting averages for the Braves outfield? Does anyone on this blog know?
MFin04
August 12th, 2009
1:58 pm
Not a good idea to look past the Nats tonight, they always seem to be a nemesis to the Braves. Hopefully our “Ace” can pitch like an ace tonight. 3-0 since the break with a 3 to 4 era.
Tomahawk1310
August 12th, 2009
2:01 pm
Carroll
Any updates on McLouth? Was it a one more night deal or a day by day and see how its feeling?
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
2:02 pm
McFann
Pardon Me, Sugar-Bopp-Honey-Bunn…!
I Don’t Mean To Intercept…? But I like Roachy In The Fifth Spot Since He is A way Better hitter in the Second half than the first…
Plus I’d Rather have another threat deeper in the order…
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
2:04 pm
SC Will
I’m Not Hating on Chipper but Can we get some Clutch 3 Run Bombs From him…? He hit another meaningless homer last night in a blowout win against a rookie pitcher…Again I’m not hating on Chipper but he needs to Go off against the phillies this weekend…
If we are going to make it into October we need him to get his Swerve On against the Phillies much like he did the mets in his 1999 MVP Season
Carroll Rogers
August 12th, 2009
2:05 pm
Thanks you guys, I did check with my insurance and they will cover what’s beyond my $250 deductible. I’m actually really happy with my insurance company, i just switched within the last year, and they were very helpful today getting things set up. It just kinda stinks.
And John, i’m with you. If it were anywhere but right in front of my eyeballs on the windshield I would have had them patch it up, but short of leaning to the left while I’m driving, it’s in my path of vision and right at the level where you look at the road. Fate hit the bullseye.
Tomahawk1310
August 12th, 2009
2:06 pm
I agree with UNCBrave. Let’s not go crazy and start a Church for lead-off petition. Remember the other night when McLouth walked in the 9th and stole second and came in with the tying run to go into extra and eventually win. I don’t think Church would’ve been able to steal that base.
Bobby's Cox
August 12th, 2009
2:06 pm
There’s been so many names thrown around here about the 5th spot lately. Esco, BMac, GA, LaRoche, McLouth. Seems like we have a whole team of #5 hitters…
Sponge
August 12th, 2009
2:06 pm
Saw Gwinnett Braves regain possession of first place last night on tv. Carlyle 2 innings, 0 hits, 0 walks & stuck out 5 of 6 batters faced with 90-93mph fastballs. Came in 8th & 9th with team down by one mowin’ durham batters down left & right. Jones & Gorecki solo homers in 9th for walk-off & Carlyle gets the win. Nice to see some serious zip on Buddy’s fastball.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
2:06 pm
If not batting average, then what?
I don’t want to sound like a jerk, but that’s not a serious question, is it?
Also, you must not be watching GA play defense either…
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
2:08 pm
Carroll–you’re not with Progressive, are you? We’re with them and we really like ‘em.
Eric from MO
August 12th, 2009
2:09 pm
Keeping it Real I said I want GA and Church playing against righties and against lefties alternate them off with Diaz. My reasoning is GA is not a young player and it is the dog days of the season.
Jeremy
August 12th, 2009
2:09 pm
With the way Church has been hitting, why not continue hitting him there then move McLouth down to 5th or 7th and try to maximize his power and get him going again. McLouth really hasn’t been all that effective hitting leadoff…
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
2:09 pm
That middle game of the Phillies series makes me want to throw up…
Reality
August 12th, 2009
2:10 pm
Steve – 90% of the time you sound like a jerk.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
2:12 pm
You can also find all of the stats you’d ever want at baseball-reference (.com)
baseballprospectus.com
fangraphs.com
Carroll Rogers
August 12th, 2009
2:13 pm
USAA, actually
owl hunter
August 12th, 2009
2:14 pm
Kawakami is always up against an ace. He often rises to the occasion. Could this be on purpose?
LOSTlover
August 12th, 2009
2:15 pm
We need the Kawakami that pitched in LA. Or as someone said, the “Roy Halliday Kawakami”.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
2:15 pm
Reality, I’m guessing you’re one of the folks that consistenly say stupid things around here, no? That would explain a lot.
Love the name change.
Biff Pocaroba
August 12th, 2009
2:15 pm
Thanks for the new blog Carol. FWIW, Chipper’s HR last night was off of Clippard, not Kensing.
MFin04
August 12th, 2009
2:16 pm
Infante would also be a great option for leadoff if we wanted to move Nate down in the order.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
2:17 pm
Let’s just hope its not the Florida Marlins Kawakami…
Medlen…be ready
Jaglawyer
August 12th, 2009
2:18 pm
Carroll: Free legal advice of the day: When you call your insurance company again, ask them to discuss your uninsured motorist coverage. For practically pennies more than you are probably paying, you can increase your coverage in the event some A-hole hits you with no insurance and you are stuck only receiving Georgia minimums . . .If I settle one more case for a minimum policy I’ll throw up.
Lentz: Good “book report” on Wren and Glavine issue. Couldn’t agree more, and if I recall, didn’t Glavine reinjure himself swinging a bat?
Garrett Anderson gave an interview on the Jim Rome Show today. (No it was not 5 minutes of silent air time) He came on as I was turning off the car. Did anyone hear him (I’ve never heard the guy talk) and if so can you post a summary of what he said? Thanks.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
August 12th, 2009
2:18 pm
Nova Scotia Steve,
That’s the kind of game that KK wins or has a great outing in. I am actually less worried about that game. More worried about the Blanton vs. JJ game. JJ has been struggling lately and Blanton has pitched well the last couple of starts.
dcraig16
August 12th, 2009
2:19 pm
carroll: i have usaa also, they are awesome.
Carroll Rogers
August 12th, 2009
2:19 pm
dang you’re right Biff, I saw 26 and not 36 in my book. let me change that.
bravesgrl4life
August 12th, 2009
2:20 pm
Jaglawyer, good to see you back on the blog. Missed you on the last couple I’ve been able to read.
owl hunter
August 12th, 2009
2:20 pm
Jaglawyer
Loaf basically tried to sound as professional as possible about not particularly caring much about being a Brave. He’s just doing a job. He doesn’t care. What’s with the Angels and their ‘tudes?
Jaglawyer
August 12th, 2009
2:21 pm
I represent the silent majority and usually only post when I see something off the wall . . .
Reality
August 12th, 2009
2:22 pm
There is no need to be a jerk to other people. This isn’t third grade. Just post the sites and let people research their own stats. No need to call them out and be a jerk.
Whether you are right or wrong about a topic you can still be civil, no need for belittling people.
You may have more knowledge than people on here. Help them, guide them, but don’t be a jerk to them.
MFin04
August 12th, 2009
2:24 pm
I wouldn’t say Jair is struggling, more like getting hosed by umpires who obviously have some vendetta against the Braves.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
2:25 pm
I don’t know if its fair to say “its the kind of game KK wins”…I mean he’s had two amazing starts of them…The Blue Jays back in May and the Dodgers…out of 16 or 17 starts.
Like yeah the guy has stepped up…his biggest game of the year more than likely being the Dodger game…because of timing.
But twice he’s pitched himself a gem and three months in between them??? Like c’mon
I don’t think that proves he’s a big game pitcher…I don’t even think its remotely close…
Jaglawyer
August 12th, 2009
2:25 pm
Owl Hunter: Thanks for the recap. It would have been hilarious if Rome referred to him as Loaf, his blog nickname. I had to drop a “are you f**king kidding me” bomb last night when I saw his **cough** attempt to catch **cough** that fly ball last night. Thankfully he can still hit.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
2:27 pm
Al Leiter with a great take on pitching mechanics:
http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=5904795
The MLB Network has really been a pleasant surprise.
Eric from MO
August 12th, 2009
2:27 pm
Nova he has an ERA under 4 since April. I dont think that is the only good starts he has had, but believe what you want. It could be that maybe he gets the least run support in baseball, but whatever.
ernesto
August 12th, 2009
2:28 pm
I wonder what kind of interest Bill Hall will get. Certainly someone will be picking up Hardy.
Brewers eating Hall’s salary for this year, but I guess any team that picks him up is on the hook for the 8 mil he’s owed next year.
TommyP
August 12th, 2009
2:28 pm
Was it yesterday that the Milwaukee GM said it would take a #1 or #2 starter to pry JJ Hardy from them?
And then he’s shipped off to the minors today.
Jaglawyer
August 12th, 2009
2:29 pm
LOSTlover
August 12th, 2009
2:15 pm
We need the Kawakami that pitched in LA. Or as someone said, the “Roy Halliday Kawakami”.
———-
I’d settle for the “Roy Hobbs Kawakami” . . .
owl hunter
August 12th, 2009
2:29 pm
Yeah. I was dissapointed in Loaf for not making me think the things we say about him on this blog were false. He seemed to kind of like Cox, but he probably can’t wait to get out of here. The only time he lit up was when they were talking about the Angels’ WS victory. Rome is and LA guy, too.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
2:30 pm
Eric from MO
So its from his ERA is 4.12…As far as I know the season begins in April…but whatever
trey
August 12th, 2009
2:30 pm
Carroll, nice, I am with USAA, also.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
2:30 pm
Who do I excessively call out that doesn’t deserve it? Save for the folks that consistently say off-the-wall stupid things. Then yeah, I get annoyed. It’s mostly a select group.
For the large majority of folks I am civil. If I haven’t seen ‘em post before, I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt, like the guy I just posted back to.
But whatever. I’m guessing you are one of those select folks, so whatever floats your boat, buddy. I couldn’t care less.
owl hunter
August 12th, 2009
2:30 pm
Eric, I’m with you on KK. People are looking at his record, and not his overall performance, especially lately.
trey
August 12th, 2009
2:32 pm
They are really good for the military or ex military and I plan on sticking with USAA after I get out of the service.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
2:32 pm
I think Loaf cares, guys, I think it just doesn’t look that way because I think he’s got the quiet kind of personality. And his butchery in LF. It’s always funny that people think bad or unathletic or slow players look like they’re not trying but in reality is just that they’re bad or slow.
LOSTlover
August 12th, 2009
2:33 pm
KK has pitched decently as of late. Last game was a gem. I would prefer they move Vasquez back to Saturday and pitch Hanson on Sunday on regular rest due to Thursday’s off day.
We don’t just need a “quality start” from KK…
Rob from SC
August 12th, 2009
2:33 pm
Nova Scotia Steve
I understand your concern over Kawakami.
We could always go with
Jurrjens
Vazquez
Hanson
all on proper rest
Shamus Thacker
August 12th, 2009
2:34 pm
woogidy, your 1:47 is like it was extracted from my brain….
You got ESP?
RHR
August 12th, 2009
2:35 pm
Hold up. Loaf was on Rome!? Today?!
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
2:36 pm
Co-Sign On KK!
His Stats are misleading because he never gets no run support when he pitches…
He should have at least 10 wins by now…!
owl hunter
August 12th, 2009
2:36 pm
We need to hit more for KK. That’s the best solution. The rotation is doing well. Not need to change the rhythm.
Ronald Millsaps
August 12th, 2009
2:36 pm
The Braves have shown more substance lately than they’ve shown in years, and they get 19,000-plus fans to encourage their production.
Granted, you’re supposed to work to develop your God-given talent despite the peripheral issues; I’m not in any way saying otherwise, just that seeing some attendance would be nice. This team really is legitimately good!
It’d be nice if the Braves reacquired John Smoltz, if he becomes available.
LET’S GO, BRAVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
2:37 pm
We could always go with
Jurrjens
Vazquez
Hanson
all on proper rest
This is the way to go…I am an firm believer…been saying it all week…
Throw Kawakami against the D-Backs in that make-up game…where one of his “quality starts” may get us a W…
Eric from MO
August 12th, 2009
2:37 pm
But he has had great starts since April, you make it sound like only two. I guess if they have a bad 1st month adjusting to a new country, new mound, new players they must be bums and should never be judged on anything but that first month.
owl hunter
August 12th, 2009
2:38 pm
Loaf might care, but it’s because he cares about playing baseball in general. He didn’t mention a teammate, and only mentioned Cox when prompted by Rome. He didn’t come off as a great teammate.
owl hunter
August 12th, 2009
2:39 pm
Oh lord. Here come the Smoltz people.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
2:39 pm
I know personally…During both games Kawakami threw “his heart out” — give me a break — I almost s*it my pants – both times –
I was in utter dis-belief at what just took place
Reality
August 12th, 2009
2:40 pm
Steve – You weren’t civil to him and you hadn’t seen him post before, but you simply said off-the-wall jerky things to him.
When you have to preface with : “I’m not trying to be a jerk”….You are being a jerk. Just FYI.
You all are Cox apologists
August 12th, 2009
2:41 pm
It’s amazing that the Nationals are so bad when THEY HAVE A BETTER LINEUP THAN THE BRAVES. They have scored more runs than the Braves and they will have two guys in their lineup with over 100 rbis (Dunn and Zimmerman). If they had better pitching, the Nationals, yes, the Nationals could even challenge for the divison. They’re not as bad as their record indicates, as winning 8 in a row before last night proved that.
owl hunter
August 12th, 2009
2:43 pm
The Nationals have put up better offensive numbers than the Braves, but the Braves have played better ball since the break. Let’s go with what they’re doing now, not what they did in the earlier parts of the season.
MFin04
August 12th, 2009
2:44 pm
Loaf is darn awful in left…absolutely horrid. Matt Diaz in right…hmm…he at times…looks just as bad.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
August 12th, 2009
2:45 pm
KK gave up 3runs in 6IP against SD and probably should have won that game if the team could hit their weight that night. KK has had more than a handful of starts where he has pitched well and runs have not been scored. KK, Javy,and JJ have all pitched in bad luck this season.
You are right that JJ has had some call go against him but, we gotta be fair if we are measuring him with the same stick that we measure KK. KK and JJ could have very similar records if runs were scored in their starts.
Jaglawyer
August 12th, 2009
2:45 pm
Dear John Smoltz:
Go back to the Braves. They could use someone in the 6th or 7th innings in mop up roles.
Signed,
Willie Mays (Met)
Joe Namath (Ram)
Every other washed up athlete who thought he or she had “one more in the tank”
Eric from MO
August 12th, 2009
2:45 pm
You all alot of teams would be better with better pitching. However, pitching is hard to get, which is why Wren was smart the way he built the Braves.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
2:46 pm
When you have to preface with : “I’m not trying to be a jerk”….You are being a jerk. Just FYI.
Nah, it just give gadflies like you an opportunity to do the same. Just FYI.
Andrew in P-tang
August 12th, 2009
2:46 pm
come home to atlanta smoltzy boy…whooaaaaa….lets go braves,lets go braves …first place here we come and we aint never looking back…yessssirrrr
You all are Cox apologists
August 12th, 2009
2:48 pm
The Braves haven’t won more than 5 in a row all season. The Braves cannot afford to give back any games in the division or wildcard race. I feel we HAVE TO win just about every series from here until the end of the season to REALLY have a shot. It’s hard trying to jump teams that you are behind when they are playing each other because somebody has to win and that will be the team you won’t gain any ground on. Unfortunately, I can’t RELINQUISH THE THOUGHT OF BOBBY COX DOING SOMETHING TO KILL THEIR MOMENTUM.
Greg in TN
August 12th, 2009
2:48 pm
Afternoon denizens…
Pretty heartening display of baseball last night at 755 Hank Aaron Drive as the Braves took care of business and dispatched the Beltway Boys. The visitors got a heavy dose of Church, the Phenom and the Offensive Assasin, not necessarily in that order.
Watched the Beantown Brawl with a little amusement, and ran across video of what many long time Braves fans will likely remember as one of the nastiest games/brawls this franchise has taken part in.
To set the stage, it was an August 12, 1984 matinee tilt against the Braves and the visiting Padres at the old house on Capitol Avenue. Pads were in first in the division with the Braves a distant 9.5 games back. Pascual Perez started and immediately hit Alan Wiggins in the wallet to start the game.
Padre pitcher Ed Whitson attempted to hit Perez three times over his first two at bats and missed. One attempt in Perez’s at bat in the 2nd ended up being a wild pitch which allowed Rafael Ramirez to advance and eventually score. Whitson was eventually ejected, along with Padres manager Dick Williams, after attempting to hit Perez again in the 4th and was replaced by Greg Booker.
Things seemed to settle down until the 8th, when Craig Lefferts finally hits Perez which set off an ugly melee which included a cameo from an injured Bob Horner, who was in the pressbox at the start of the game, but went down to the clubhouse and got into uniform and stepped out to stop a charging Champ Summers from reaching Pascual, who would head to the Braves dugout during the first two bench clearers.
Finally, the benches cleared again in the ninth when the late Donnie Moore came in and hit Graig Nettles to lead off the inning.
Folks, this was an ugly, ugly game. Fans on the field, Padres jawing with fans behind the third base dugout and jumping on top of the dugout to try and go into the stands. Was interesting to see some names from the past: Washington, Ramirez, Perez, Horner, Bob Watson, Tony Brizzolara.
May want to watch this video kind of quick before MLB has it pulled. Enjoy denizens.
Part 1 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo2shxvmIHs
Part 2 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmUM59Jv1DM
Part 3 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELd29SF9RXo
Part 4 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ1iXW6YMGQ
owl hunter
August 12th, 2009
2:51 pm
Aside from maybe the Giants, we have a destinct advantage from a pitching standpoint over the other teams we are against. Chill with the Cox rage. That is sooo June!
RHR
August 12th, 2009
2:52 pm
If you want Smoltz back in the pen for Atlanta you are clearly a Phillies or Marlins fan. Or you just don’t watch games/read newspapers/climb out from under your rock very often.
owl hunter
August 12th, 2009
2:52 pm
Jaglawyer
RIGHT ON about Smoltz. Every pitch he makes now is one step further from retiring with dignity.
woogidy
August 12th, 2009
2:53 pm
apologists, that’s true. If they win 2 outta 3 from here on out, that’s 91-92 wins. So, yeah they’ve gotta win all of the series. They’ve been dong it for over a month (29-14 in their last 43) so who’s to say they can’t keep doing it?
Andrew in P-tang
August 12th, 2009
2:53 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIy2e-qx3aw&feature=related
MFin04
August 12th, 2009
2:54 pm
If the Braves continue to score 5-8 runs a game, they won’t have to worry about Bobby doing something stupid to screw up the teams chances of making the playoffs.
dondi
August 12th, 2009
2:54 pm
This has probably been discussed here many times before, but I didn’t see it. I’d like to know what you people think.
Over the last 40 games (1/4th of season), last 25 (since the AS break) and last 10, the Braves are playing at a .625, .640 or .700 clip respectively. So, the recent good play is more than a fluke and, assuming you avoid long-term injuries to key guys, there’s no reason to think it couldn’t continue. The .625 pace would mean 90 wins if they continue at that pace through the end of the season.
Question is, would that get them into the postseason?
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
August 12th, 2009
2:55 pm
The Braves matchup alot better in Turner ield than in Philly. I think the park is huge reason why. Those cheap HRs that Philly gets at home are just regular flyballs at the Ted! Hence the sweep last time.
On the other hand, Braves hitters probably look forward to going to Philly hit. we haven’t had a problem scoring runs in Philly, we just can’t hold the lead because our bullpen pitching is scared to make amistake over the plate in Philly.
You all are Cox apologists
August 12th, 2009
2:55 pm
Lowe has to be sharp tonight and we have to keep Morgan off the bases. McCann is awful at throwing out runners attempting to steal second. He’s great offensively but he could REALLY improve in that area. Also, it was great to see Infante in the lineup, his value is immeasurable.
Jaglawyer
August 12th, 2009
2:56 pm
Smotlz should have resigned for what Wren offered and ultimately retired as a Brave-icon. Instead, his ego got in the way of his brain. I personally won’t forget his whinning and crying, and I know now that Wren is so thankful of his decision to go to Boston because it makes Wren look like a genius.
How is that for “k”arma, John? Oh, and all this talk about how “great” he is on the golf course . . . please.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
2:56 pm
Over the last 40 games (1/4th of season), last 25 (since the AS break) and last 10, the Braves are playing at a .625, .640 or .700 clip respectively.
Whoa, whoa, whoa! I thought we weren’t good enough to do that again! I mean, we haven’t done that since we made the playoffs that one time, and now…wait…we might make the playoffs.
Logic just went out the back door…
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
2:58 pm
Jaglawyer………thanks for the props with your 11:18am posting.
I just wish that people would focus on what will REALISTICALLY help the Braves not only win this year, but for years to come.
The John Smoltz of 2009 is not someone I want on our team. I dont care what the stats say about how “effective” the Smoltz of 2009 has been in his first 2 innings pitched of a game. What I do know is that I find it hard to believe that John Smoltz would accept a 7th inning role in the bullpen. Baseball is a very mental game as well.
Look at it this way. How many times have you see a closer come into the game in a “non-save” situation and get hammered? After being either a front line starter or closer throughout this 20 year career……is it realistic to believe that Smoltz can make that adjustment MENTALLY and be an effective 7th inning guy?
Uh, to those of you who are clamoring for Smoltz to be our closer……you can FORGET ABOUT THAT. You need to get a refund from your dope dealer if you believe that he should be closing games over Soriano.
BossLady
August 12th, 2009
2:59 pm
Progressive? USAA? However, State Farm Is No. 1
Main Street Mafia
August 12th, 2009
3:00 pm
Cox, I agree that Mac really needs to work on that but last night Tommy didn’t give him much of a chance. His delivery is SOOOOO SLOW. That’s something he’ll need to work on. Jordan Zimmerman stole his first base of the season off of Tommy and Mac for crying out loud.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
3:01 pm
I dont care what the stats say
Yeah, you’ve made that pretty clear during your tenure here.
Or am I being a jerk?
MFin04
August 12th, 2009
3:01 pm
The Nats were 5 for 5 against McCann last night in stolen bases (with the call at third being complete garbage).
David O'Brien
August 12th, 2009
3:02 pm
RHR: Glad you put it gently (or at least more gently than I might have) to CrimeDog about his not “getting” the connection between Ryan Zimmerman and the organist playing a Dylan tune….
Bay Area Steve
August 12th, 2009
3:02 pm
Crawling out from under my rock…
Smoltz could be effective out of the ‘pen. Watched several starts; his stuff is not the problem. For a prorated, league-minimum, I’d give him four or five, low-leverage situations, especially once rosters expanded, to see what he could do.
Random, interesting theory, the sarcasm filter. Since most of mine are…And, you’re right about it not being a size, profanity, normal-filter thing…
AustinBrave
August 12th, 2009
3:03 pm
According to espn.com Smoltz could be headed to the Cardinals or the Rangers.
sri
August 12th, 2009
3:06 pm
For the stat nerds..
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Arho05BMy0GAWYuiMqb8LWE5nYcB?slug=jp-fangraphs080509&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
AustinBrave
August 12th, 2009
3:07 pm
Whats the weather like in Atlanta? Are we going to play ball tonight?
Bobby's Cox
August 12th, 2009
3:08 pm
I wouldn’t mind having Smoltz back. Would probably be good for the clubhouse, fans, etc… Also think he could be effective for an inning. Sign him, send him on a minor league assignment, & see how he does working out of the pen in Gwinett. We could still use some bullpen help. Not sure Smotlz is the answer, but it’s worth a try for the stretch run if he does well in AAA.
Larry
August 12th, 2009
3:08 pm
I bet Pedro gets rocked tonight
Pete
August 12th, 2009
3:08 pm
Paul Lentz: “The Braves did not do Glavine wrong. Glavine’s shoulder did him wrong”
Could not agree with you more. Also, most have long forgotten how Glavine crapped all over the Braves when he left for the Mets. Loyalty, respect, appreciation, etc. is supposed to work BOTH ways…..not just for the player.
sri
August 12th, 2009
3:09 pm
A while back, there was some discussion about pitch counts with young players.. Most of us dont realize how much abuse a pitchers arm goes through..
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/09/magazine/09littleleague-t.html?_r=2&ref=magazine&pagewanted=all
You all are Cox apologists
August 12th, 2009
3:09 pm
I haven’t complained about Cox just yet. Lately, the team has been winning, but, even in our wins he does stupid things like pitch Soriano with a huge lead or take out a starter in full control of the game and pitch count. Cox is a great clubhouse guy but a horrible tactician, reason why we only won 1 WS out of 14 postseason appearances.
The Braves and Bobby Cox are like a car with engine trouble. It may run for now, but sooner or later, the flawed engine will disable the car and need to be replaced. Bobby Cox is the engine and the team is the
car.
GUYS, WE HAVEN’T MADE THE PLAYOFFS YET.
RHR
August 12th, 2009
3:09 pm
You make more sense in the middle of the night, BAS. No really, I get what you’re saying…but just…ship sailed, train already left the station, bridge burned. Even if the braves would do it, and I don’t think they would, I can’t see Smoltz tucking tail and come crawling back. If I were him, I’d rather just retire if that was my only option…and I don’t have half his ego.
DOB – glad you weren’t on duty at the time …your head might have exploded.
owl hunter
August 12th, 2009
3:09 pm
Smoltz won’t go to the minors. He just refused an assignment for the Sox. Bobby Cox will turn into a magical unicorn before Smoltz comes back. He’s DONE, son!
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
3:10 pm
Bay Area Steve………….you are not taking into the account the “mental” aspect of accepting a certain role on a team. Sure, “in theory”, Smoltz could come in and possibly be an effective 7th inning guy.
However, at his age, how often could he be counted on to realistically come in and pitch? Every other day? Every 2 days? He’s also still recovering from his arm injury.
Also, could Smoltz MENTALLY (not to mention his EGO) accept a 7th inning role on a team? A team whose management he RIPPED in the off season?
To me, it’s too much a gamble to risk giving him a spot in the bullpen. And besides, he will more than likely be playing for another team before September 1st, which is when the rosters expand.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
3:10 pm
I’m apathetic on Smoltz. Wouldn’t mind if he came back as a middle reliever, wouldn’t mind if he went elsewhere.
Jaglawyer
August 12th, 2009
3:10 pm
Smoltz is like the nub of a bar of soap that lingers on your shower floor for a few days until it is replaced . . . “washed up.”
Who really thinks Smoltz would want to come back for a part-time role? That is the equivalent to Rocky Balboa, the former heavy weight champ, going back to Mick’s to carry out the spit buckets. I’m sure the Braves Front Office Brass can’t wait for Smoltz to come back and beg for mop up duties . . .
Brett Esterson
August 12th, 2009
3:11 pm
Enough about Smoltz and Glavine, they aren’t on the current team and shouldn’t be either. Make them offers to be pitching coaches when the time is right and that’s that. Yes, Smoltz might be better than Acosta on some nights but it’s not worth it after everything that has happened. Move on, focus on what Huddy can give this team when he returns.
Marc in FL
August 12th, 2009
3:13 pm
Your windshield replacement shouldn’t cost you a dime, most insurance companies will cover it 100%. But it’s probably too late now
Let’s kick some A tonight Braves!
TommyP
August 12th, 2009
3:14 pm
After what occurred with Smoltz this offseason, there will be no reunion on the playing field for the two parties. Smoltz said too much in January and after the Glavine PR debacle. Too many egoes involved for Smoltz to return to Atlanta.
And for you country music fans……
http://www.cmt.com/videos/studio-330-sessions/zac-brown-band/324236/toes.jhtml?id=1601835
This from Ben Nicholson-Smith on MLBtraderumors.com concerning the Moyer decision:
The Phillies’ decision to bump Jamie Moyer to the bullpen for Pedro Martinez may be the right baseball decision, but as Nick Kapur pointed out last month at UmpBump.com, the move has major financial implications. Moyer’s contract incentives are based on innings pitched and games started so they’ll be much harder to reach out of the ‘pen. Moyer has started 22 games and pitched 123.3 innings, so he would have started about 30 games and pitched about 180 innings if he’d stayed in the rotation all year. Here are some incentives in his contract:
$250k for 150, 160, 170, 180 and 190 innings.
And a few ways he could boost his 2010 salary:
Moyer adds $250k to his salary when he starts his next game and again if he reaches 150 IP.
His salary rises by $500k when he starts his 25th, 27th, 29th and 31st games.
It increases by the same amount when he reaches 160, 170, 180 and 190 innings.
Had Moyer stayed in the rotation long enough to make 30 starts and pitch 180 innings, he would have received $1MM more this year and $3.5MM more next year. He could still reach some of these marks, but it’s no wonder he’s disappointed.
Pete
August 12th, 2009
3:15 pm
You all are Cox apologists: “Cox is a great clubhouse guy but a horrible tactician, reason why we only won 1 WS out of 14 postseason appearances.”
No truer words have ever been spoken! Give me Cox for a 162 game season, but when the playoffs start, no thanks. He manages same way during season as he does during playoffs (giving players time off, not setting up rotation properly, etc.) and you just cant do that in the playoffs. Beng a superior tactician in a short series is far more important than making everyone happy in the clubhouse.
Robert (Chipper Is The Best)
August 12th, 2009
3:15 pm
Look, the Glavine thing was handled wrong from the way Wren and JS approached him. Also, I think the last couple of “rehab” starts could’ve been cancelled because they already had made their decision. From that standpoint the situation was handled poorly. However, the decision to let him go wasn’t. Is there anybody here (especially those fools who were complaining at the time) who would rather have Glavine than Hanson?
You all are Cox apologists
August 12th, 2009
3:15 pm
Um, don’t we have Buddy Carlyle and Tim Hudson scheduled to come off the DL? How about we wait to see if they can contribute before we go trading and signing everybody? OK?
BMoney
August 12th, 2009
3:15 pm
Lay off McCann guys. Last night he wasn’t very good w/ throwing runners out but did you see Hanson’s delivery to the plate? It’s just as much Hanson’s fault that they were stealing those bases. His delivery to the plate was pretty slow and then couple that with Mac’s footwork going towards first base and alot of major league players could steal a bag or two. Calm down, I think Mac has gotten a little better this year w/ his defense. Just remember that you’re talking about fractions of a second to get someone out and if the pitcher doesn’t give you some help, then it takes a young Pudge to be throwing people out. I’ll take Mac’s bat any day over a catcher that can’t hit but can throw people out.
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
3:16 pm
Why Are People So Quick to Bash B-Macc on his problem of throwing out Basestealers when everyone knows that the Braves starters are among the worst in the league at holding on baserunners…?
McDowell Needs to coach our pitchers better at keeping basestealers honest on the basepaths…
I for One think that B-Macc has made great improvement in his footwork this year and has gotten a lot better at his throws to second…
MFin04
August 12th, 2009
3:17 pm
I agree with Brett. Smoltz probably is a slightly better reliever than Acostus, but all the crap/distractions that comes with Smoltz isn’t worth marginally upgrading.
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
3:17 pm
Pete………thanks for the 3:08pm props. It’s still amazing how so-called Braves fans “forgot” about the circumstances and expectations concerning Tom Glavine when he was signed in March. All they could see was “poor Tom Glavine, we promised him he could pitch and BIG BAD Frank Wren treated him like trash”. What a freaking joke.
I remember the UPROAR in early June when Frank Wren announced that Tom Glavine was being cut and Tommy Hanson was going to be called up. I had be advocating for that move for OVER a month, when it became apparent that Glavine was taking too long to come back. The financial implications of adding Glavine to the roster, especially given that the Braves need to find some help with the offense, made cutting Glavine a necessity. When Frank Wren was able to swing the McLouth, that probably sealed Glavine’s fate.
Eric from MO
August 12th, 2009
3:17 pm
Bobbys Cox I dont think he would be good for club house. He pretty much threw the team under the bus on the way out of town. We have a good chemistry right now. We dont need to mess it up.
Pete
August 12th, 2009
3:17 pm
David O’Brien: “RHR: Glad you put it gently (or at least more gently than I might have) to CrimeDog about his not “getting” the connection between Ryan Zimmerman and the organist playing a Dylan tune….”
Dave, there can be no doubt he put it far more gently than you would have lol
You all are Cox apologists
August 12th, 2009
3:18 pm
Brett Esterson,
I totally agree. Who cares about Smoltz? I’m indifferent to the whole thing. Lets try and win with the guys on the team, well, maybe except Norton.
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
3:19 pm
Pedro Will Go 5 innings tonight and their offense will bail him out “Bank On It!”
I’m ready for us to take on Pedro and rake his (Exepletive)
He was Garbage against us during his final day with the Melts…
B-Macc Owned Him…especially in 2006-07
BMoney
August 12th, 2009
3:19 pm
Wow Tomahawkin, we think alike.
Lew
August 12th, 2009
3:20 pm
Brooklyn Braves-Considering that the Braves have won 4 of 6 IN Philadelphia this year, I’m not so saure your assertions hold up. As for the bullpen not holding the leads-that happened once. In the other loss, we were already losing 8-3 when O’Flaherty gave up two late inning runs. No blown leads there.
lexbrave
August 12th, 2009
3:20 pm
what bothers me about smoltz, and i can’t believe the redsox couldn’t see this, is that the guy was pretty darn good for an inning..he just couldn’t last a 2nd time through an order…. that has speciality reliever written all over it..
i’d prefer smoltz to just retire.. i don’t think i could handle it if he wen’t to cardinals and performed well in that role.
DAP
August 12th, 2009
3:20 pm
if the braves win every 3 game series, and split 4 gamers and the current two gamer, (meaning a loss tonight) they will win 90 games.
do it, braves.
sri
August 12th, 2009
3:21 pm
From Callis’ chat earlier..
Alex (PA): Talk about my boy Heyward!
Jim Callis (2:48 PM): He’s the best prospect in the minors! The Braves should call him up!
lexbrave
August 12th, 2009
3:22 pm
but from smoltz’s point of view, i can’t imagine why he’d risk further humiliation by going to yet another team.
Eric from MO
August 12th, 2009
3:22 pm
TommyP that explains why Moyer is so pissed. I wondered why, because this kind of thing has happened before in his career. This time it effects his pocketbook.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
August 12th, 2009
3:23 pm
Robert (CITB), I dunno. I’d have to review the dates and games, but it seemed to me as if the Braves gave Glavine a break by letting him pitch his way into game shape before letting him go. At least it allowed him to audition for other teams who may have wanted to sign him after he was released. And it gave Hanson a couple more outings to get ready for his call-up.
The release was handled clumsily, without question. But the Braves F.O. agreed that Glavine didn’t have enough to get out big league hitters. The fact that he didn’t really try out for other teams suggests that Glavine understood that, eventually. It’s still too bad he didn’t have the opportunity to make a couple of farewell starts before retiring.
AustinBrave
August 12th, 2009
3:23 pm
TommyP- That video made my day. Thats what I need.
Thanks
Jonathon
August 12th, 2009
3:24 pm
I think it was Ryan Zimmerman, not Jordan Zimmermann, who stole his first base of the year off of Hanson/McCann last night.
TommyP
August 12th, 2009
3:24 pm
Going to the Cards would afford Smoltz the chance to face the Braves. (and I’m sure he’s still bitter)
IF Heyward gets called up, what spot in the lineup would you put him?
I’m all for #7 hole. The #8 hole gets pitched around too much so he’d never see strikes. #7 spot might be right.
ease19
August 12th, 2009
3:24 pm
Steve from OH, I don’t know about others but you have been a jerk to me all season, and spotts, Gibby, DAP, Steve McP, N Nine, etc..
The_Superhoo
August 12th, 2009
3:25 pm
Carroll,
I’ve got USAA too (in the Air Force). Its pretty damn good.
monty
August 12th, 2009
3:26 pm
A couple of weeks ago on here I stated that Chipper didn’t look to me to be standing as tall at the plate as he used too, he looked a little “hunched over”. Could it be that Chipper actually reads this…no, surely he doesn’t. Anyway, just glad to be of service to my team!
TnBrian
August 12th, 2009
3:26 pm
MERCY! Check out that Vegas dancer chick at the top of the page. She has some big… eyes.
Art Vandalay
August 12th, 2009
3:26 pm
That comment from Ryan Church is beyond a breath of fresh air after 4 unbearable whinning years from Jeff Francoeur crying if Bobby Cox looked at him funny. This teams resurgence is no coincidence, Francoeur was a cancer in that club house.
Thrillhouse44
August 12th, 2009
3:26 pm
if the braves win every 3 game series, and split 4 gamers and the current two gamer, (meaning a loss tonight) they will win 90 games.
do it, braves.
How about a win tonight and make it 91?
TommyP
August 12th, 2009
3:27 pm
AustinBrave: Those guys are REALLY good. He’s like a modern-day Charlie Daniels.
Here’s another great one. If you watch it, enjoy the very end where that guy shows he can pick it.
http://www.cmt.com/videos/studio-330-sessions/zac-brown-band/324235/chicken-fried.jhtml?id=1601835
AndyC
August 12th, 2009
3:27 pm
Carroll
USAA is rated as the best insurance company in the country. Well done.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
3:27 pm
ease, is it because I forgot about my team for three months? I’m sorry!
Somehow, I’m not last either!
TnBrian
August 12th, 2009
3:27 pm
Well now she’s not on there. Why would they go and do that?
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
3:28 pm
I want Smoltz to go to the Rangers…
With their Offense he’d be a good addition…Plus I’m on the Rangers Bandwagon…I want them to take out the Red Faux for the WC…Plus Smoltz wuld be a good veteran presence for the Rangers…
Keeping It Real
August 12th, 2009
3:28 pm
Keeping It Real
Steve from OH,
Your no answer is no surprize and it explains your point of view and your lack of substance. You are a non-entity.
Pete
August 12th, 2009
3:29 pm
Lew: “Brooklyn Braves-Considering that the Braves have won 4 of 6 IN Philadelphia this year, I’m not so saure your assertions hold up. As for the bullpen not holding the leads-that happened once.”
That “once” was probably the ugliest and most significant loss in the last 5 years for the Braves. If Braves held a 10-3 lead in the 7th, theyre now in 2nd place and 2 1/2 behind as opposed to 3rd place and 4 1/2 behind. That single game could easily cost the Braves a post season berth.
fleming
August 12th, 2009
3:29 pm
Dap
If the braves win every 3 game series, and split 4 gamers and the current two gamer, (meaning a loss tonight) they will win 90
Winning every 3 game series the rest of the year would be tough but a nice winning streak makes it where you don’t need to win every series. Let’s get an 8 or 10 game streak going (Hey Washington just did it) and make it easier on ourselves.
monty
August 12th, 2009
3:29 pm
Given a decent hold by the pitcher McCann can throw very well. Not quite as well as Ross but more than adequate.
Lew
August 12th, 2009
3:30 pm
TommyP-I find it really hard to squeeze out any sympathy for Moyer’s pocketbook issues at age almost 47. Dude has made over $68 million (through 08). He should no longer HAVE pocketbook issues and should be glad with his 5.30 something ERA that they don’t just DFA him.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
3:30 pm
Go Dodgers!
Rob from SC
August 12th, 2009
3:30 pm
TommyP
August 12th, 2009
3:24 pm
Going to the Cards would afford Smoltz the chance to face the Braves. (and I’m sure he’s still bitter)
IF Heyward gets called up, what spot in the lineup would you put him?
Hit him in front of Chipper Jones
I would go
Prado 1
Heyward 2
Jones 3
CB
August 12th, 2009
3:31 pm
Tomahawkin, that might be enough motivation for Smoltz. He hates better than he loves.
CharlieAlphaBravo
August 12th, 2009
3:31 pm
I believe the Braves recent surge can be wholly attributed to Bobby Cox. Thoughts??
Lew
August 12th, 2009
3:31 pm
Pete-Dude, a good bit of what imploded has either left for other teams or turned their season around. In case you don’t remember, that “One” game was the third of the season. LKife has changed considerably since then. Just ask Blaine Boyer.
Ashley
August 12th, 2009
3:32 pm
I’ve been with USAA since my teens, as a military dependent. They totally rock! I started with auto, moved to apartment renters insurance, and now have homeowner.
Rob from SC
August 12th, 2009
3:32 pm
sri
August 12th, 2009
3:21 pm
From Callis’ chat earlier..
Alex (PA): Talk about my boy Heyward!
Jim Callis (2:48 PM): He’s the best prospect in the minors! The Braves should call him up!
Baseball America knows what they are talking about.
dogsbrekky (making a run, woo hooooo)
August 12th, 2009
3:33 pm
Pete, Rob, Larry, and other Bobby haters
Did you actually watch the WS we lost. if you seriously think Bobby cost us 1991, 92 or 96 then you must have been watching different series. instead of just blasting away with your negative bollocks actually give us some example games where Bobby messed up…
until then stfu
Dr Hoo
August 12th, 2009
3:37 pm
Looks like I win my preseason bet that Hanson would have more wins this year than Smoltz and Glavine combined…
submariner
August 12th, 2009
3:37 pm
Carroll, it’s not A.J. Happ……it’s J.A. Happ.
Lew
August 12th, 2009
3:38 pm
Pewte-Maybe a closer look at that game mightgive you a somewhat different outlook.
O’Flaherty gave up 2 ER and had an ERA of 10.80. Now it is 3.52 and is one of the league leaders in appearances.
Moylan gave up 4 ER and had an infinite ERA. He now has a 3.40 ERA and leads the league in appearances.
Boyer gave up 2ER and is now with his third team-not the Braves.
Campillo gave up an ER and is now on the DL for the entire season.
Bennett pitched too, giving up NO runs, but he’s gone, too.
What exactly leads you to believe this will happen again?
TommyP
August 12th, 2009
3:39 pm
Lew: I don’t believe Moyer ever claimed to have financial issues. He’s probably ticked ’cause he just came out of July with a 4-1 record and a 3.30 ERA. If he’s getting bumped out of the rotation for Cliff Lee, I’m sure he’d understand. But I’m pretty sure you’ve been the chorus-leader in how washed up Pedro is….maybe Moyer supports your view?
wjones
August 12th, 2009
3:39 pm
“I don’t know if its fair to say “its the kind of game KK wins”…I mean he’s had two amazing starts of them…The Blue Jays back in May and the Dodgers…out of 16 or 17 starts.
Like yeah the guy has stepped up…his biggest game of the year more than likely being the Dodger game…because of timing.
But twice he’s pitched himself a gem and three months in between them??? Like c’mon
I don’t think that proves he’s a big game pitcher…I don’t even think its remotely close…”
Seems like everyone forgets the Yankees game. He was pitching a PERFECT GAME when he got lined in the neck and had to go out of the game. I would count that on the “big game” ledger. Arguably the best lineup in baseball, without a doubt one of the best 3 to 5.
Biff Pocaroba
August 12th, 2009
3:40 pm
YAACA, I can’t relenquish the thought of people like you and your broken record B.S. going away forever. Please leave. Please.
Pete
August 12th, 2009
3:40 pm
Lew: “Pete-Dude, a good bit of what imploded has either left for other teams or turned their season around. In case you don’t remember, that “One” game was the third of the season. LKife has changed considerably since then. Just ask Blaine Boyer.”
Yep….and 3rd game of season is just as important as the 153rd game, as youre finding out. Your point about many have left is certainly a valid one, except Cox is still there. So Ill ask you this: how can any manager watch his team up 10-3 in the 7th, then 10-4, then 10-5, 6, 7, 8, and 9…..and leave BOTH his best relievers sitting in the pen? Let me know.
monty
August 12th, 2009
3:40 pm
What’s up with PAul Lentz saying “he loves men”?
You all are Cox apologists
August 12th, 2009
3:42 pm
dobgsbrekky, (what a lame and stupid name)
NO. We will not provide you with specific examples of Cox’s MANY FAILURES IN THE POST SEASON. If you are too stupid to see that Cox isn’t perfect, then you are the dumb one buddy.
Answer this, IS COX PERFECT? WHAT LOSSES CAN WE BLAME HIM FOR? OR, IS COX PERFECT AND HAS NEVER MADE A TACTICAL ERROR IN HIS LIFE? You stfu!
monty
August 12th, 2009
3:43 pm
W jones
Since the ALL-Star break the BRaves pitcher with the highest ERA has been HAnson. You don’t find people bashing him, KK has made many “good” starts” with 2 exceptional ones!
DAP
August 12th, 2009
3:44 pm
fleming, an 8 game win streak would be a win tonight and then a sweep of the phillies, which would set us up very nicely for a stretch run. lets do it! (by the way, im of the opinion that winning every series is easier than an 8-10 games win streak)
Pete
August 12th, 2009
3:45 pm
dogsbrekky (making a run, woo hooooo): “Did you actually watch the WS we lost. if you seriously think Bobby cost us 1991, 92 or 96 then you must have been watching different series. instead of just blasting away with your negative bollocks actually give us some example games where Bobby messed up…”
In fact I did, and now Im not sure you did. Ill start with 1991….have you ever seen a manager in the last 40 years or so name a Game 1 WS starting pitcher, and then (except for injury or a 4-0 sweep) never start that same pitcher again? Let me know when you figure that one out, and Ill move on to the next one. Thanks.
Lew
August 12th, 2009
3:46 pm
TommyP-No, I think they’re both washed up and it doesn’t matter to me which one pitches-unless it’s Moyer against the Marlins (a good bit of that record and ERA, IMO cause he owns them), it only gives us more chance to advance when they get their butts handed to them However, someone was saying he might be upset because he wouldn’t get those financial incentives. Not so sure why he’s concerned if that’s the reason. He should be pretty flush by now.
dogsbrekky (making a run, woo hooooo)
August 12th, 2009
3:47 pm
YAACA – same old negative bollocks, just take your bat and ball and go play on a different field, take the hate away mate, bye bye
jeffrey d
August 12th, 2009
3:47 pm
I think Pedro’s gonna be an unpleasant surprise for us
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
3:47 pm
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)………..”a couple of farewell starts” for Tom Glavine would have meant at least $1 mil in “welfare payments” to an “over the hill, injury prone, lucky to go 5 innings, 80mph fastball throwing” Tom Glavine.
I mean, heaven forbid if some poor single mom has a few kids out of wedlock and applies for $300 a month in food stamps. Yet if the Braves save a million by cutting Tom Glavine, then all of a sudden it becomes “Liberty and the Braves are a cheap organization”.
I love sports. However the sports world can really warp a person’s mind when it comes to keeping things in perspective.
Carroll Rogers
August 12th, 2009
3:48 pm
Lineup, as we know it now anyway:
1. Church CF
2. Prado 2B
3. Jones 3B
4. McCann C
5. Anderson LF
6. Escobar SS
7. LaRoche 1B
8. Diaz RF
9. Lowe P
Warren Sphan
August 12th, 2009
3:49 pm
Moyer should be their closer!!!
Louisville brave
August 12th, 2009
3:49 pm
Lincecum on the hill for the G-men today
Lew
August 12th, 2009
3:50 pm
Pete-Yeah, we know. And Kelly Johnson’s drop up caused us to tank in 08. You’re really concentrating on insignificances. If we lose by a game, you could point to any particular game, inning, pitch, or at bat and claim that was why we lost. What do you gain by that point of view? Some bizarre feeling of “rightness” that you can pinpoint the precise moment of failure? If that’s what floats your boat, then more power to you.
Necromancer
August 12th, 2009
3:50 pm
Moyer should be at Fernbank with the other dinosaurs!
fleming
August 12th, 2009
3:50 pm
Dap
An 8 game winning streak is tough but so is winning every series. Winning every series requires a team to be hot and things go right over a 50 game stretch verses being real hot for an 8 game stretch. Look at what Washington just achieved and otherwise they are terrible.
TommyP
August 12th, 2009
3:50 pm
Lew: I’m pretty sure he’s a bit irritated that he was (A) so close to those incentives (B) coming off his best month this year (C) being replaced by someone whose arm is dangling like a strand of spaghetti.
He negotiated those incentives….why WOULDN’T he be a bit irritated?
jeffrey d
August 12th, 2009
3:51 pm
Would you guys rather have Paul Lentz leave the blog or Greg Norton batting cleanup?
BL
August 12th, 2009
3:52 pm
Paul Lentz 1:48 in response to RemoW 11:26
Couldn’t agree more with that entire post. And RemoW some tend to forget that Glavine was putting baseball and anyone involved with MLB on the wrong end of him and the union right around 1996. I find it funny how for once in his life he is on the wrong end of a BUSINESS deal and he, and everyone else, cries a river.
You all are Cox apologists
August 12th, 2009
3:52 pm
This is WHAT YOU COX APOLOGISTS WANT TO HERE:
The Braves will make the playoffs in 2009, whooopeee!!!!! Cox will LEAD the BRAVES into the playoffs and he WILL NEVER make a mistake. Cox is PERFECT so they may as well just hand the Braves the WS trophy today. Why should we keep playing games because COX IS PERFECT and the Braves will NEVER LOSE A GAME AGAIN. COX makes all the RIGHT MOVES and he always uses the BULLPEN to his advantage. All of the post season failures were JUST BAD LUCK. I’m happy to be a BRAVES FAN and COX should COACH FOREVER, no matter what.
DELUSIONAL AND NAIVE FANS!!!!
Pete
August 12th, 2009
3:52 pm
dogsbrekky (making a run, woo hooooo): “Pete, Rob, Larry, and other Bobby haters
……………..until then stfu”
You always this tough, or only when hiding behind a computer and who knows whose skirt?
dogsbrekky (making a run, woo hooooo)
August 12th, 2009
3:52 pm
Pete = very good points, but would you have started leibrandt (forget the spelling) again, think he lost that one and pitched below avg and then lost a latter game out of the pen, yes ??
dogsbrekky (making a run, woo hooooo)
August 12th, 2009
3:54 pm
Pete I apologize to you but not Larry, YAACA, Robert etc who beat the same dead horse all the time, becomes nauseating
but FWIW I can handle myself big guy
Lew
August 12th, 2009
3:54 pm
TommyP-Dude, I really don’t care if he’s upset about the incentives or not. Not only is it not MY problem, it isn’t even my favorite team’s problem.
njbraves
August 12th, 2009
3:54 pm
you are all cox apologists…..I don’t think Cox is perfect, but i agree with dogsbrekky. You can’t blame Bobby for ‘91, ‘92, or ‘96. In ‘99 the Braves were just up against a monster yankee team that no one was going to beat. What did he do in those other world series that has you all worked up?? I doubt you can come up with a big mistake he made that cost them any of those titles.
Dandylions
August 12th, 2009
3:54 pm
I have used USAA for more than 25 years and never paid more than $50 for a windshield. Check your policy. GO BRAVES!
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
3:54 pm
Weaver pitching for LA…
TommyP
August 12th, 2009
3:54 pm
Sheffield claimed and then pulled back off of waivers by Mets.
TommyP
August 12th, 2009
3:55 pm
Lew: Then why did you bring it up??? LOL
Lew
August 12th, 2009
3:55 pm
Better to be a delusional fan than a complete and utter ass and Idiot.
monty
August 12th, 2009
3:56 pm
Everyone knew when Charlie came out of the pen in the “Series” it was game over. Everyone except the guy who should have known the most!
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
3:57 pm
I reported the “fake poster” who used my name at 3:30pm to DOB.
Be a man and come up with your own name.
Lew
August 12th, 2009
3:57 pm
And lose the cap lock. It doesn’t make what you say any more relevant and won’t do anything to convince we delusional fans that you have a clue.
AndyC
August 12th, 2009
3:57 pm
Oh God. We are going to debate all of the Braves playoff loses to decide if Bobby caused the losses? I think you boys need a seperate blog. It’s in the past. No one else cares!
TommyP
August 12th, 2009
3:57 pm
Diving in on the Cox debate….don’t forget the job he did to get the Braves to the Series the year we had so many injuries. I know we lost to the Yanks but can’t remember the year.
Our World Series lineup had to be one of the worst in many, many years that season.
Pete
August 12th, 2009
3:57 pm
Lew: “Pete-Yeah, we know. And Kelly Johnson’s drop up caused us to tank in 08. You’re really concentrating on insignificances.”
If you think losing a game winning 10-3 in the 7th to the #1 rival and reigning WS Champs is “insignificant”, more power to you. And no you cant point to “any particular game” because this particular loss was a 2 game swing, as opposed to a 1 game swing vs. another team. Nice try.
njbraves
August 12th, 2009
3:57 pm
It doesn’t matter who the manager is, some people on here will always complain. It gets really tired after a while.
Lew
August 12th, 2009
3:58 pm
Paul-Identity crisis is probably the least of their mental disablities.
dogsbrekky (making a run, woo hooooo)
August 12th, 2009
3:58 pm
njbraves – I place the blame for 1996 on
That effing umpire who interfered with that bloop into rf, I blame Charlie hayes for dribbling a ball along 3rd that was a fluke, I blame Wohlers for throwing that “slider” instead of a 100 mph fastball (even though the hitter was a flat-out fball hitter), I blame Cone for outpitching maddog etc etc
Louisville brave
August 12th, 2009
3:58 pm
How’s the weather in Atlanta folks? Any chance we’re gonna get the game in tonight?
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
3:59 pm
monty…….the fake poster is back.
njbraves
August 12th, 2009
3:59 pm
TommyP…great point. It was ‘99.
You all are Cox apologists
August 12th, 2009
3:59 pm
If I don’t want Cox managing the team, I can certainly voice my opinion. Who are you to say leave the blog just because I KNOW the Braves would do better under better management? I LOVE THE BRAVES just as much as you do. I watch the games and pull for them to win. I am heart broken when the Braves lose, my day just doesn’t flow the same versus them winning. Cox seems like a great guy (except beating his wife) that is loyal and loves his players. All that said, he is not a good post season manager and has cost us multiple championships. If that doesn’t make you angry, you are not a REAL FAN.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
3:59 pm
What’s happening on here…I’m definitely not going to get involved in Braves past post-season loses.
That scares me.
Irrational National
August 12th, 2009
4:00 pm
Da Braves are going down tonight! Everybody at Turder field will be sad tongiht!
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
4:00 pm
Tomahawkin–
Yeah, LarOche is pretty good in the fifth spot…OK, then put BMac sixth until he snaps out of this “funk” (gettin’ tired of saying that, BMac…come on, buddy…)
Why Are People So Quick to Bash B-Macc on his problem of throwing out Basestealers when everyone knows that the Braves starters are among the worst in the league at holding on baserunners…?
See, problem is, not everybody knows that…whenever there’s a SB, people automatically point to the catcher (well, a lot of people do, anyway). Now, I only saw one of BMac’s throws last night (the one that Infante was charged an error on), so I can’t really speak for last night, but a lot of his throws are on the money, just too late.
There is that issue of stepping towards first, though, causing some throws to be too much on the 1B side of 2B.
BMoney–
I’m with you all the way there.
MFin04 The Nats were 5 for 5 against McCann last night in stolen bases (with the call at third being complete garbage).
Well, no, see, they were only 4-5. So what if that call was “garbage”! It was in our favor…besides, like I said, he’s owed a few CS for all the times umps have messed up by calling guys safe when they should be out (Beltran at 3B back in May) or, “Oops…I meant ball 4. That guy’s not really out.” (That one actually happened twice in one game, the second one was just worse.)
I’ll take that call at third last night! Why should we complain about it?
Lew
August 12th, 2009
4:00 pm
Pete-The point is that you can anally fixate on whatever game, inning, aspect of any loss All it gives you is an anal fixation and history will not change because you do. Preparation H may help with the pain in your butt.
splitfinger
August 12th, 2009
4:01 pm
YAACA:
Wow… what mature and well thought out comments…
You debate like an ACLU lawyer. Why discuss fact when emotion is so easy?
dogsbrekky (making a run, woo hooooo)
August 12th, 2009
4:01 pm
YAACA – I was pissed with Cox when he left Glavine in the 3rd game in 1999 WS and then I was more peeved when Wohlers came in and pitched like a ‘tard, reversing my original position….
see the manager can’t win whatever he does unless we win..
njbraves
August 12th, 2009
4:01 pm
dogsbrekky…exactly. Bobby has made mistakes, but the Braves have had some tough breaks along the way too. ‘96 is the one that really burns my azz. I can’t stand the Yanks.
Johnson&Johnson
August 12th, 2009
4:01 pm
Lew, tell everybody how you like to sit around and smell your own farts.
Irrational National
August 12th, 2009
4:02 pm
We have the fastest guy in the East! A commodety that you all do not have!
The Braves Beat ... with Rick Springfield's colleague
August 12th, 2009
4:02 pm
John Smoltz Refuses Minor League Assignment with the Red Sox
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/08/smoltz-refuses-minor-league-assignment.html
… when can we expect his exhortations regarding the disrespect Theo Epstein is showing the legend (in his own mind).
DAP
August 12th, 2009
4:03 pm
dang, what is up with mclouth?
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
4:03 pm
monty……..I reported both the fake posting of someone using my name at 3:40pm and 3:42pm to DOB.
Lew
August 12th, 2009
4:03 pm
Johnswon-I thought that was your breath over my shoulder.
Irrational National
August 12th, 2009
4:03 pm
I heard Smoltz would love to pitch for us. We have won 8 of the last 9! We could really use smoltz to get us off the fringe.
You all are Cox apologists
August 12th, 2009
4:04 pm
LEW,
Your childish result to name-calling only confirms your lack of and inability to sufficiently use the English language. Plus, are you Cox’s grandson? If I don’t like Cox then that’s me, OK? I’ve never seen so-called men defend another MAN who they’ve never met. You are a man aren’t you?
njbraves
August 12th, 2009
4:04 pm
Cox apologists……give me some proof that he has cost us multiple championships. Tell me one terrible decision Bobby made that directly affected the outcome of a WS.
jeffrey d
August 12th, 2009
4:04 pm
Nobody likes a tattletale, Paul
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
4:04 pm
At least we don’t have to deal with Ron Gant tonight.
Wow.
monty
August 12th, 2009
4:04 pm
No one could have forseen Wohlers giving up a HR on that slider, but certain things BC did back then(World Series games) made yor stomach cringe and you knew the outcome wouldn’t be good. Just a fact.
njbraves
August 12th, 2009
4:05 pm
Lentz….we all know when it’s really you.
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
4:06 pm
jeffrey d……..no one likes to be the victim of identity theft either.
RC
August 12th, 2009
4:07 pm
njbraves,
Don’t forget when asking for one example of Cox costing a championship, they also need to PROVE that the team would have been in the playoffs to start with without Cox as the manager. Truth is, none of us really know what would have happened with a different manager. And I’m glad that we don’t have to know.
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
4:07 pm
McFann
The Nats Ran at will on Hanson last night…Teams are taking his slow delievery to their advantage now that the scouting reports have gone around the league….
Ditto for the rest of our starters…Simply put I think the coaches need to stress on trying to keep baserunners honest…
Eric from MO
August 12th, 2009
4:07 pm
You all, everyone knows when you have to captilize your posts your arguements are weak.
Pete
August 12th, 2009
4:08 pm
dogsbrekky (making a run, woo hooooo): “Pete = very good points, but would you have started leibrandt (forget the spelling) again, think he lost that one and pitched below avg and then lost a latter game out of the pen, yes ??”
First, I appreciate and certainly accept your apology…we can have meaningful debates on here
and keep things clean at same time. Second, if you recall, MN. manager (forgot who) started Jack Morris so he could be available for 3 games, if need be (it was needed, and Morris did pitch in 3 games, going 2-1). My point is….and I cannot see how anyone could argue this…. that Cy Young Award Winner Tom Glavine had 4 days rest (pitched Game 5 vs. Pitt, day off next day, then games 6 and 7 off, then day off prior to WS) and Cox doesnt start him…..are you kidding me??
Pls give me any rationale you can come up with…ANY….for him starting Leibrandt over Glavine. You ALWAYS start your stud (Leibrandt??) unless hes injured or not enough rest etc. I will never understand Cox doing that, so if you (or anyone else) understand, pls let me know. Thats why I said Cox is fabulous in a 162 game season, but in playoffs/WS, he can leave you bewildered.
monty
August 12th, 2009
4:08 pm
PAul Lentz
“Reported fake poster.”
I’m glad you “straightened” things out!
Mid Town Joe
August 12th, 2009
4:08 pm
Check out with the City of Brotherly Love is saying about Moyer:
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/Moyer_says_Phils_misled_him_Phils_respond.html
bring on santa!
Louisville brave
August 12th, 2009
4:09 pm
Lincecum was 5′ 2″ and 100lbs as a sophomore in high school, and 5′ 7″ 135lbs in college…now dominates in the bigs…except for vs. braves last time, of course
Lew
August 12th, 2009
4:09 pm
Apologistr-Are you? I was thinking you were more along the lines of something with prehensile toes. Close nut not quite.
jeffrey d
August 12th, 2009
4:11 pm
I’m glad you “straightened” things out!
jeffrey d
August 12th, 2009
4:11 pm
Identity theft? You’re talking like somebody stole your credit card.
Gustopher
August 12th, 2009
4:12 pm
Great blog CR
What a day! Next thing you know your cable will go on the fritz.
I use USAA too. I finally got my girlfriend to switch and she loves them too
Random
August 12th, 2009
4:12 pm
Tomahawkin (August 12th, 2009 1:46 pm): “And My Thoughts On Church….He has been a better acquistion than most fans think because he can spell Nate-Dawg A day off when Needed…”
Way to go out On a limb there, chIef.
And why do You wanna go puttin’ your own woRds into other peoples’ mouthS anyway? (Or your thougHts into their heads?)
Best I can recall, it was darn near unanimous that Wren was a genius for getting anything more than a giant-siZEd Butterfingers for Francoeur. And most here remember Church from his days with the Nats and his early days with the Mets — we all knew he was pretty darn good.
I think you’re projeCtIng your own initial doubts onto everybody else.
WhaDdaya say to tHat?
PS: note the weird caps, a la your own silly stylings.
splitfinger
August 12th, 2009
4:12 pm
certain things BC did back then(World Series games) made yor stomach cringe and you knew the outcome wouldn’t be good. Just a fact.
No… that’s a feeling, your own intuition.
A fact is something like “Lonnie Smith made a terrible baserunning mistake directly resulting in the winning run NOT scoring.” We can count this as fact because Lonnie Smith was quoted as saying, “I made the mistake of not looking in when I started running. If I saw the ball off the bat, there’s a good chance I could have scored. But I didn’t see it. I didn’t take that look in. That’s my mistake.”
See the difference?
Lew
August 12th, 2009
4:13 pm
Apologist-Does the fact that I HAVE met him make it any better in your eyes? Does the fact that it was Chipper who introduced us matter? Talk about juvenile with your innuendos and homophobic references. I’m not sure you’ll ever evolve to the point of juvenile behavior. Too far up the evolutionary ladder for you.
Mid Town Joe
August 12th, 2009
4:13 pm
Louisville brave – Keep one on my niece up there, and one on Pitino, thanks.
AndyC
August 12th, 2009
4:13 pm
I really hope the Braves do not resign Smoltz. We don’t have time for a reclamation project at this point in the season. We are at a point where 1 or 2 games might determine whether the Braves make the playoffs or not. We don’t have time for Smoltz to come in and relearn how to be a reliever. We do need another arm in the bullpen but not Smoltz.
Pete
August 12th, 2009
4:14 pm
Dogsbrekky, I missed part of your question….no I would absolutely NOT have started Leibrandt again in that Series, and Cox obviously didnt either. I do believe he realized his mistake but it was too late of course. Again…..can you or anyone name me one time a #4 starter starts Game 1 of WS other than injury etc? Of course not….its unprecedented.
You all are Cox apologists
August 12th, 2009
4:15 pm
Lew,
Didn’t your teacher tell you to pre-read before you post? I can’t understand you lanaguage, maybe this will help……
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Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
August 12th, 2009
4:15 pm
Irrational National,
If Smoltz comes to pitch for you guys, he really is desperate. Or could use counseling. No offense, but why would a 42-year-old go to the team with the majors’ worst record rather than accept a minor-league assignment with a club that has a good shot of reaching the postseason?
ATL Braves SUCKERED fan
August 12th, 2009
4:15 pm
I was hoping that Bobby would push Lowes start back to Friday and have either Kawakami or Medlen pitch tonight’s game. This will give us rotation as following: Lowe on Friday, JJ on Saturday, Javy on Sunday. High probability of taking either 2 out of 3 or swipping the series from Stinking Phillies…. YOUR THOUGHTS.
Johnson&Johnson
August 12th, 2009
4:16 pm
“Your childish result to name-calling only confirms your lack of and inability to sufficiently use the English language. ”
You left out the part about Lew crying and playing the victim. He likes to report postings after he gets ’schooled’ on the ‘ole blog.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
4:16 pm
Weaver’s ready to implode
Random
August 12th, 2009
4:16 pm
woogidy (August 12th, 2009 1:47 pm): “By the way, these old geysers need to know when to hang it up. “
You mean “geezer”.
Old Faithful is an old geyser.
dogsbrekky (making a run, woo hooooo)
August 12th, 2009
4:16 pm
Pete – yes I agree well actually I have no idea what the answer is..but the implication was more that it was an error to NOT start Charlie in a later game, of course we will never know as it is all in the past.. anway on to tonight
let’s light up this Stammen guy like a pinball machine
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
4:17 pm
ATL Braves SUCKERED fan
We debated that for pretty much a whole page….RE: Page 2
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
4:18 pm
Bases loaded no out…for the Giants
ATL Braves SUCKERED fan
August 12th, 2009
4:18 pm
Thanks Nova.
Sorry just buzzing into this blog.
Pete
August 12th, 2009
4:18 pm
You all are Cox apologists: “Who are you to say leave the blog just because I KNOW the Braves would do better under better management?”
You have to realize some people grow huge stones while hiding behind a computer……simple as that.
Louisville brave
August 12th, 2009
4:19 pm
Mid Town Joe
Will do…Pitino has a rep up here of being a womaniser, and allowing his players to thug it up a bit…most believe Pitino’s side of the story(including the authorities), but it goes to show how risky it can be when you go messing around in places you’re not sure about
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
4:20 pm
But I agree….We should have set our rotation better for the Phillies series.
We had every opportunity to do so
AndyC
August 12th, 2009
4:21 pm
Smoltz can only go and pitch for a team in playoff contention. If he goes to the Nats or any other team out of the race then I will lose all respect for him. Be a man and retire.
Random
August 12th, 2009
4:21 pm
“When we signed Jamie Moyer in December it was under the pretense of being a starter,” Amaro said in a statement through a team spokesman. “But right now circumstances have changed and that’s why we’re moving him to the bullpen.”
ESL, anyone? I don’t think “pretense” was actually what he was going for there. Maybe “expectation”? Pretty lame “spokesman”, if you ask me.
Pete
August 12th, 2009
4:21 pm
Lew: “Pete-The point is that you can anally fixate on whatever game, inning, aspect of any loss All it gives you is an anal fixation and history will not change because you do. Preparation H may help with the pain in your butt.”
Nice to see such a stellar defense of your position……great baseball logic and understanding you have lol stick with the jokes
Something to think about
August 12th, 2009
4:22 pm
Nate McLouth is overrated and the Braves won’t be picking up his 2012 option(10 million).
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
4:22 pm
Weaver gets out of a bases-loaded no-out jam…
TnBrian
August 12th, 2009
4:22 pm
Nova Sctia, you’d rather deal with nerdy birdy Boog than Gant? Gant is a good announcer, I think. Boog is too, just gets a little nerdy for me. What exactly does Gant do to irritate you?
CB
August 12th, 2009
4:23 pm
Random, please try not to catch any of my grammatical mistakes- I am very sensitive.
Random
August 12th, 2009
4:23 pm
WTG, Brett!!! (August 12th, 2009 1:47 pm)
Brett Esterson
August 12th, 2009
4:23 pm
Enough about the past and all this bickering. Let’s focus on the now. 1) We’re going to win tonight. 2) The Cubs will beat up on Pedro and the Phillies and 3) The Mets and Nationals will battle for last place in the NL East.
dogsbrekky (making a run, woo hooooo)
August 12th, 2009
4:23 pm
Nova Scotia – is that the good or bad weaver pitching today ?
stamper
August 12th, 2009
4:23 pm
i’m interested in hearing Lentz’s take on the Pitino situation…….. :-/
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
4:23 pm
Jeff Weaver escapes from a bases loaded, 0 outs bottom of the 2nd. 0-0 going to the third.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
August 12th, 2009
4:24 pm
Nova, SUCKERED –
This isn’t a bad time to take advantage of the off days and give Kawakami extra rest. At this point, every game’s important, anyway.
If we’re close to the Phils when we’re playing them in mid-September, however, then you’ll have a stronger case to move guys around beforehand.
Mid Town Joe
August 12th, 2009
4:25 pm
Thanks Louisville brave. Ought to be a interesting recruiting year, especially if he loses a few out of the gate.
ease19
August 12th, 2009
4:25 pm
Steve from OH, having just admitted that you forgot about your team and and yet are still ahead of me…yeah, that makes you a jerk.LOL
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
4:25 pm
TnBrian
Ron Gant is like the black man’s Tim McCarver.
(No racism or anything intended or involved in that comment either)
I like Boog…But I think both don’t have the best broadcasting voice I’ve ever heard.
Let’s just say Gant…..Needs some work
dogsbrekky (making a run, woo hooooo)
August 12th, 2009
4:26 pm
Simpson > Gant > Boog >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chip
Eric from MO
August 12th, 2009
4:27 pm
Something how do you know they wont pick up. We stil have 2010 and 2011. He isnt underated, just having his worse season, nice try tho.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
4:27 pm
It doesn’t look like the good Weaver I’ll tell you that muich…but he pulled off a miracle last inning.
It also doesn’t look like the Cy Young performance he put on against us for 3 innings either.
I think he’s pitching for Billingsley today.
Geico
August 12th, 2009
4:28 pm
Surprised insurance did not pay for windshield??
monty
August 12th, 2009
4:28 pm
Charlie Liebrandt being called on to relieve in the 12th inning against the Bluejays to face Dave Winfield after BC had exhausted all of his regular pen guys, every Brave fan knew what was about to happen.
Rob from SC
August 12th, 2009
4:28 pm
I wonder if McLouth fits int he Braves long term plan. Frank Wren has stated the Heyward, Freeman, and Schafer will be part of the next run.
Schafer in CF
Heyward in RF
Wren loves him some Jason Bay. Is McLouth the odd man of if we get a RH left fielder?
Shamus Thacker
August 12th, 2009
4:28 pm
I’d like to see Smoltz in a freak show as “The Baby Man.” When they open the curtains he can whine till everybody yaps…
chilidog75
August 12th, 2009
4:29 pm
Why, under any circumstances, would Escobar be batting behind Garrett Anderson?
Yunel is the team’s best (or second-best) hitter. So why would he EVER bat sixth?
Let’s hope Bobby switches this thing before Friday night.
ATL Braves SUCKERED fan
August 12th, 2009
4:29 pm
Hey Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR), if we don’t win atleast the series from Phils now, then it may be TOO LATE when mid-September rolls around.
RC
August 12th, 2009
4:31 pm
chilidog75,
Escobar has been batting 6th because that seems to be the place where we are most likely to have people on base for him. I also like him 5th, but either of those spots is good for him.
stamper
August 12th, 2009
4:31 pm
Gant does need some work in the booth, but I like him. Joe Morgan, however…….
ATL Braves SUCKERED fan
August 12th, 2009
4:31 pm
We need to try NOW to close the gap with Phils. Hence, it will put more pressure on them than us.
Pete
August 12th, 2009
4:33 pm
Lew: “Apologistr-Are you? I was thinking you were more along the lines of something with prehensile toes. Close nut not quite.”
Lew as you so well demonstrate, when someone cannot logically defend their position in a debate, name calling is almost always the 1st thing that person turns to. Happens all the time…….keep it up.
BL
August 12th, 2009
4:33 pm
You are all Cox apologists
The stealing runners is not McCann’s fault. We are TERRIBLE at holding runners, across the board with our pitchers. Something needs to get figured out.
beekay
August 12th, 2009
4:33 pm
I like KK opposing the ace of the other team. He is our worst starter but he rises up against big time pitchers. We are not going to sweep every series so why not have him take one for the team or surprise us like he did with Halladay, Yanks, Dodgers etc..
You all are Cox apologists
August 12th, 2009
4:33 pm
All in all, I love the Braves. I just wish we had a manager that was a better tactician. BURN ME, HANG ME, and crucify ME IF I want a better manager. Hope we win tonight.
Rob from SC
August 12th, 2009
4:34 pm
Youkilis is a bi***
Crazy Trades McGee
August 12th, 2009
4:34 pm
US vs. Mexico, tied 1-1
Magnum
August 12th, 2009
4:35 pm
Boog is quality. He is far and away the Braves best announcer.
Louisville brave
August 12th, 2009
4:35 pm
No way in a thousand years Gant is a better announcer than Boog; IMO Boog is the best we have, maybe in a 1st place tie with Jim Powell and Don Sutton-who I hope to god they put back on TV next year…Gant is almost as lame as Caray, maybe worse, which is saying something…loved him as a player, but he is brutal as an announcer…thank god for freebaseballradio.com-got to put mlb.com tv feed on mute and listen to Powell and Sutton
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
4:35 pm
Tomahawkin Teams are taking his slow delievery to their advantage now that the scouting reports have gone around the league….
Yup. And he is a rookie, so we cann cut him a little slack…but if he’s gonna have a slow delivery (and since he’s pitching so good, why should he change anything), he should throw over to first more to keep the runners close.
That goes for all our pitchers…is that too much to ask?
Simply put I think the coaches need to stress on trying to keep baserunners honest…
Exactly.
Furman Bitcher
August 12th, 2009
4:36 pm
Boog rocks. Simpson rocks. Gant is o.k. and Brian Jordan is terrible.
Magnum
August 12th, 2009
4:36 pm
Lemke…..yuck.
Mixxo
August 12th, 2009
4:37 pm
I like Ron Gant. Sure, he finding his way as a broadcaster/analyst, but I like him nonetheless.
Joe Simpson is a brilliant baseball man.
ChurchMan
August 12th, 2009
4:37 pm
Hence, it will put more pressure on them than us
Phillies are already under pressure, they had a 7 game lead over the Marlins on Aug 6 and it’s now down to 3.5
wjones
August 12th, 2009
4:37 pm
One thing about Smoltz in the pen that I haven’t heard from anyone. How long does it take for Smoltz to get ready to pitch, post-surgery? A reliever has to be able to get warm and loose in a hurry, so if Smoltz can’t do that, then his ability to help out a bullpen would be severely limited, i.e., he would have to have “planned” relief appearances. Which is better than nothing, I guess, but still…
Back one more time to 91 World Series. It’s been a while since I have read anything on this, but it seems like I remember that Cox never wanted any of his pitchers to go with three days rest on consecutive starts. If Glavine had started Game 1, 4, and 7, that would have been 4 starts in 14 days, and I don’t think he was optimistic about the results. And I also think he liked the fact that if it went 7 games he would have Avery & Smoltz, who were lights out at that point, and also the fact that he would have his big three pitching at home. And Liebrandt was no slouch #4 starter, either, and wasn’t a #4 until Avery and Smoltz pitched so good he was relegated there. The man won 15 games that year, and would win 15 the next, and the year prior he posted a very good ERA for a lousy team. He also was a key pitcher 6 years prior in KC’s championship season, winning 17 games and posted some good PS starts. Having said all of that, I’m not sure why Cox would not have started Glavine in Game 1, then went with Liebrandt in Game 2. Glavine, as was pointed out, would have had 4 days rest, and also have 4 days off before his next start instead of the 5 and 3. Then again, he was doing the 5 and 3 thing with Avery & Smoltz, so maybe that was a formula that Leo & Bobby had. It would be a great question to ask some day. But starting someone as solid as Liebrandt was not a problem to me. He also started a game in the NLCS, and that didn’t cost us anything as I recall…
Mixxo
August 12th, 2009
4:37 pm
I like Boog too!
Furman Bitcher
August 12th, 2009
4:38 pm
If we had Tony Larussa (sp) or Jim Leland we would have 4 WS titles right now. We won in 95 despite of Cox.
Pete
August 12th, 2009
4:38 pm
dogsbrekky (making a run, woo hooooo): Pete ……..but the implication was more that it was an error to NOT start Charlie in a later game, of course we will never know as it is all in the past..”
Yes I purposely stated it that way……but Ill wait until you can provide me with just a glimmer of logic that Bobby may have used to start Leibrandt….lol thanks
Greg in TN
August 12th, 2009
4:39 pm
Afternoon denizens…
First attempt at this post went to moderation purgatory, so will try again.
Pretty heartening display of baseball last night at 755 Hank Aaron Drive as the Braves took care of business and dispatched the Beltway Boys. The visitors got a heavy dose of Church, the Phenom and the Offensive Assasin, not necessarily in that order.
Watched the Beantown Brawl with a little amusement, and ran across video of what many long time Braves fans will likely remember as one of the nastiest games/brawls this franchise has taken part in.
To set the stage, it was 25-years ago today, an August 12, 1984 matinee tilt against the Braves and the visiting Padres at the old house on Capitol Avenue. Pads were in first in the division with the Braves a distant 10.5 games back. Pascual Perez started and immediately hit Alan Wiggins in the wallet to start the game.
Padre pitcher Ed Whitson attempted to hit Perez three times over his first two at bats and missed. One attempt in Perez’s at bat in the 2nd ended up being a wild pitch which allowed Rafael Ramirez to advance and eventually score. Whitson was eventually ejected, along with Padres manager Dick Williams, after attempting to hit Perez again in the 4th and was replaced by Greg Booker (who in turn was ejected for going after Perez himself).
Things seemed to settle down until the 8th, when Craig Lefferts finally hits Perez which set off an ugly melee which included a cameo from an injured Bob Horner, who was in the pressbox at the start of the game, but went down to the clubhouse and got into uniform and stepped out to stop a charging Champ Summers from reaching Pascual, who would head to the Braves dugout during the first two bench clearers.
Finally, the benches cleared again in the ninth when the late Donnie Moore came in and hit Graig Nettles to lead off the inning.
Folks, this was an ugly, ugly game. Fans on the field, Padres jawing with fans behind the third base dugout and jumping on top of the dugout to try and go into the stands. Was interesting to see some names from the past: Washington, Ramirez, Perez, Horner, Bob Watson, Tony Brizzolara. The late John McSherry was first base umpire for this game and each of the clips posted has Skip, Pete, Ernie and John Sterling on the TBS feed. In all 14 players were ejected as was Williams, Joe Torre and several Padres coaches. Five fans were hauled off to the Greybar Hotel for their part in the festivites.
May want to watch this video kind of quick before MLB has it pulled. Link is to part one, however there are links to parts 2 through 4 in the related videos section. Enjoy denizens.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo2shxvmIHs
Furman Bitcher
August 12th, 2009
4:39 pm
We lost in 91 because Cox brought in Liebrandt in relief to face the hottest hitter on their team. Idiot. Forget game 7 we should have won game 6.
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
4:39 pm
BL–
Oh yeah. I mean, yes, he does make bad throws, but our pitchers…ugh…
And you would think, given BMac’s struggles with throwing guys out, that our pitchers would throw over to first more often than they do. Is that something the catcher signals for them to do?
Random
August 12th, 2009
4:40 pm
Paul Lentz (August 12th, 2009 1:48 pm) –
I agree.
What “screwed” Glavine out of proving his worth at the MLB level was his own April set-back (shoulder), not the Braves.
By the time he thought he was ready, it was too late — the parade had already passed, and he was overcome by events.
Too bad, so sad, yes, but not the fault of Wren or the Braves.
PS: I do disagee with you here:
PL: “When he signed, he was supposed to have recovered from last year, whereas with Smoltz it was common knowledge that he wouldnt be able to make it back until mid-June the earliest.”
All along, Smoltz was at least two months ahead of Glavine in surgery recovery/recuperation. After all, it was before Xmas that Smoltz sufficiently impressed the BoSox management with his throwing, from a mound, his entire repertoire of pitches for them to take the chance on him that they did.
It was at least two months after that time that Glavine first threw from the mound, fastballs only.
I would not be surprised to see Smoltz take aggresive steps to continue his rehabilitation this year (MLB bullpen or Milb somewhere), and I definitely expect him to be “making his pitch” to land with some play-off bound team during next year’s ST. As a starter.
(Yeah, yeah, I know — I’m a dreamer.)
Brett Esterson
August 12th, 2009
4:40 pm
Boog fan here too
CallUpConrad
August 12th, 2009
4:40 pm
As big as the series with the Phillies earlier in the season was, the upcoming series is only magnified. Let’s hope Jair Jurrjens can bounce back from “UmpireGate” in LA and Kenshin Kawakami can duplicate the pitching performance he put up in LA. Last night, it looked like Atlanta might go to bed only three games out of first place, but Houston and Chicago choked. Let’s hope the Braves get some help from those two teams tnoight and the Braves take care of business against the Nats again. The Phillies move putting Pedro Martinez in their rotation is a negative for them in my opinion. Martinez is well past his prime and I would be surprised if he does much. That helps the Braves chances. I never thought we would be sitting here in August and Atlanta is only four games out of first place.
Eric from MO
August 12th, 2009
4:41 pm
Once you get to the 12 inning you are going to run out of guys. If he brought him in the 7th then you would be right, be didnt.
Rob from SC
August 12th, 2009
4:41 pm
I miss Pete in the broadcast booth.
dogsbrekky (making a run, woo hooooo)
August 12th, 2009
4:41 pm
Pete – wjones clearly knows more of the nitty gritty on this… I do not know why Charlie started game 1 but after that outing I would not have started him again unless someone’s arm was in danger of falling off… then again in 1991 did any of us know better than Cox and Leo (in retrospect we can all say Glavine, Avery, Smoltz etc)..
VaBraveFan
August 12th, 2009
4:42 pm
McLouth is part of our future plans, 3 more years for a cheap price for a guy who will hit 260. 25 homers and 75+ rbi with 20 sb’s i’ll take that.
The Braves do need to add a RH outfielder thats hits for power
But its confusing with Heyward and Schafer coming up a all. But hell lets put 6 or 7 lefties out there might not be that bad or it could
bravesgrl4life
August 12th, 2009
4:42 pm
Well, it’s back to watching Gameday tonight since I don’t yet have SportsSouth. The dish went out completely as of this morning and the stupid DN guy couldn’t get it taken care of today – didn’t bring a tall enough ladder. If anybody wants to do play-by-play on the blog tonight, believe me, I will give you props for being better than Gameday. GO BRAVES!
Gustopher
August 12th, 2009
4:42 pm
Joe Simpson is a very nice man. I have met him several times and he sees me he always remembers me and asks how I am doing
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
4:43 pm
Boog is the best.
Gant bugs me most when he says the old, “You get someone back like a Tim Hudson…”“A” Tim Hudson? There’s only one Tim Hudson…why can’t you just say, “You get someone like Tim Hudson back…”?
I don’t know…it’s hard to explain, but it bugs the heck out of me.
stamper
August 12th, 2009
4:43 pm
Favorite Braves 2nd Baseman over the past 20 years: Jeff Treadway, Mark Lemke, Keith Lockhart, Bret Boone, Quilvio Veras, Marcus Giles, Nick Green, Kelly Johnson or Martin Prado?
Magnum
August 12th, 2009
4:43 pm
I know he won’t ever get the sentimental vote, but Boog is quite possibly the best announcer the Braves have ever had. He and Simpson are a good duo.
But Simpson is horrible with his hitting analysis. He loves to talk about “extension” and “top hand”. Maybe that’s why he was such a poor hitter as a big leager. The top hand is the devil when it comes to a high level swing. Top hand = slap hitter.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
4:44 pm
I miss Pete callin the games too
dogsbrekky (making a run, woo hooooo)
August 12th, 2009
4:45 pm
bravesgrl4life – I subscribe to mlb.tv and will probably be out for dinner with the missus so you can use my password and login tonight … send me an email to shugieny@aol.com and I will send the details.. I assume your internet is still working ……….. well alrighty then
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
August 12th, 2009
4:46 pm
ATL Braves SUCKERED fan,
You win with ALL the players you have. They paid Kawakami, now it’s time for him to earn his money. Cox won’t push back the rotation or start Kawakami on short rest tonight. The rotation is what it is. In the playoffs (should the Braves make it) Cox can shorten it up to a 3 or 4 man rotation. Until then, the rotation is what it is.
Louisville brave
August 12th, 2009
4:46 pm
for those of you monday morning quarterbacking cox’s pitching strategy in the 91 series (and when i say monday morning, i mean 18 years later)…dont forget how unbelievably exciting it was just to be there, and how insanely grateful braves fans were to get a taste of succesful postseason baseball, and how many in baseball regard it as one of the best world series’ ever…do you remember the parade downtown? by far and away the biggest and best celebration for a team that didn’t win the championship
so quit your bitching and be grateful you’re not a pirates fan
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
August 12th, 2009
4:46 pm
I like Boog, too. He’s both a stat nerd and a character, not at all like the assembly-line announcers so common these days (yes, Chip, and Thom, I mean you …)
dogsbrekky (making a run, woo hooooo)
August 12th, 2009
4:47 pm
besides we win when I do not watch
CallUpConrad
August 12th, 2009
4:47 pm
On the subject of the announcing team at Fox Sportsouth, I have never been a big fan of former players serving as announcers simply because they are former players. Brian Jordan and Ron Gant both appear that way. Rarely do they offer insight that causes me to think how glad I am that they were on the show. The play-by-play team of Boog and Joe generally do a good job. After years of watching the old gamg of Pete, Skip, Ernie, Don and company, they have done a credible job. They have some modern twists on their telecast that I enjoy watching. I like the AFLAC trivia question and the Facebook deal. They also do get into the clubhouse and talk to the Braves and their coaches. For instance, when BIlly “Killer” Hohn threw Brian McCann and Bobby Cox out recently, Joe Simpson was one of the few people who actually talked to Bobby Cox and got a response as to what Hohn had said to him.
N8
August 12th, 2009
4:47 pm
I’m not sure what to think about having girls (Like “A” McFann) on the old blog, but…..
Sory, couldn’t resist.
Random
August 12th, 2009
4:48 pm
Brett (August 12th, 2009 1:48 pm): “chipper is on a role since he made these adjustments.”
C’mon, dude — it’s “roll”, not “role”.
Geez — what are they teaching the kids in the schools theses days?
Or did you mean Chipper’s “role” as offensive leader of the Braves?
(Shyeah, right.)
Bubdylan
August 12th, 2009
4:48 pm
McFann, I’m with you on the “A Tim Hudson.” I mean, for occassional use, maybe. But not every single time you reference a player.
CallUpConrad
August 12th, 2009
4:48 pm
Stamper, that’s a great memory you have! I had forgotten about Quilvio Veras. He was playing pretty well and didn’t he get hurt?
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
August 12th, 2009
4:49 pm
SUCKERED,
Fair enough. Still, if giving KK a few days rest makes him even sharper for the final six weeks, then I say keep the rotation in order.
BravesFAN885
August 12th, 2009
4:49 pm
Carroll, that sucks about your windshield! A few years ago, my dad was driving his car by a tall apartment building when a water balloon dropped from several stories up absolutely obliterated his windshield. We found out later it was some kids goofing around, but little did they know they cost us several hundred dollars and a whole lot of inconvenience. Darn Kids!
Irrational National
August 12th, 2009
4:49 pm
First you stole my main man Simpson, now we will steal game 2 tonight
Roman Gal
August 12th, 2009
4:50 pm
There is no need to be a jerk to other people.
Why is it that anyone with a dissenting opinion is considered a jerk?
stamper
August 12th, 2009
4:50 pm
off to Atlanta Brewing Company and then the Ted. Later suckas!
splitfinger
August 12th, 2009
4:50 pm
We lost in 91 because Cox brought in Liebrandt in relief to face the hottest hitter on their team. Idiot. Forget game 7 we should have won game 6
And if Charlie executes and gets the out, something Charlie failed to do, Cox is hailed as a genius for going against the regular bullpen matchup.
By the way, this contradicts the “Cox manages the post-season the way he manages the regular season” argument. Which is it going to be?
Pete
August 12th, 2009
4:51 pm
wjones: “Back one more time to 91 World Series. It’s been a while since I have read anything on this, but it seems like I remember that Cox never wanted any of his pitchers to go with three days rest on consecutive starts. If Glavine had started Game 1, 4, and 7, that would have been 4 starts in 14 days, and I don’t think he was optimistic about the results.”
If youre defending Cox, then I will ask you same question: name me another time in last 40-50 years that a manager has not started his stud in Game 1, given enough rest etc. (Glavine won Cy Young that year). Also, if Cox felt that way, who said he had to start Glavine in Game 7? But you ALWAYS start your best pitcher in Game 1…..then you can make adjustments from there as you go forward.
VaBraveFan
August 12th, 2009
4:51 pm
since i live in VA , i get like all the Nats games so i get watch there series all year on MASN
Greg in TN
August 12th, 2009
4:51 pm
And also have to add one more thing, folks.
Today would have been Skip’s 70th birthday.
Happy Birthday Skip
AndyC
August 12th, 2009
4:51 pm
bravesgrl4life
Didn’t bring a tall enough ladder?!? Are you kidding me? That’s a load of crap.
Cow-a-Commie
August 12th, 2009
4:52 pm
Jim Powell > Simpson > Boog > Chip = Lemmer > Sutton = Gant
stamper
August 12th, 2009
4:52 pm
yeah, Veras got hurt. We kinda got hosed on that trade. We got him, and the Padres got Boone and Klesko
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
4:52 pm
Piedmont Blues I like Boog, too. He’s both a stat nerd and a character
Yeah. And I like how Joe always picks on him about his stat website, yet Boog still cites them…iliveinmymothersbasement.com…
CallUpConrad–
The AFLAC thing is great…I love it when they get one wrong, and there’s this stunned silence for a few minutes.
They also do get into the clubhouse and talk to the Braves and their coaches.
Oh, I love it when they talk about goofy stuff that the players did or whatever…Boog loves to tell stories about BMac–they crack me up every time. His delivery is perfect.
Furman Bitcher
August 12th, 2009
4:52 pm
I will bitch all I want because that is what I do. Cox blew the 91 series. Plain and simple. If you are just glad to be there then you are just a loser. I want to win!!
Shamus Thacker
August 12th, 2009
4:53 pm
This is our most important series of the year with the Phils. They know we’re coming in with a head of steam (specially if we swat Nats tonight) and at the very top of our game. They’re gonna be ready, just as I expect us to be. We win two of three, or sweep, and they’re gonna feel the weight of the world on their shoulders. They’re gonna KNOW they’re in trouble with SIX games remaining against us. We’ll then learn how well they deal with pressure..
Bubdylan
August 12th, 2009
4:53 pm
Roman Gal, dissenting has the word “diss” right in the middle of it.
Gone Viral
August 12th, 2009
4:54 pm
“They paid Kawakami, now it’s time for him to earn his money.”
I honestly do not understand statements like this. Did you see KK’s last start? Hell, he’s got a better ERA than Lowe.
Bubdylan
August 12th, 2009
4:54 pm
* right in the front of it, I meant? RE-DO!!
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
4:54 pm
Your no answer is no surprize and it explains your point of view and your lack of substance. You are a non-entity.
Because I think batting average is an unreliable stat? You got me.
What am I non-answering about, anyway? Tell me what you’d like me to explain and I’ll gladly acquiesce.
Piedmont–I like Boog too. He must be a very convincing guy, because he’s got Joe believing in OBP, and Joe seems like the poster boy for old-fashioned type baseball people with RBI goggles glued to their eyes.
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
4:54 pm
Neight–
Haha…you’re funny, dude.
Bubdylan–
Yeah, every time gets REALLY annoying…
AndyC
August 12th, 2009
4:54 pm
Piedmont Blues
Agreed on Boog. He and Joe make a good team because they joke around and have a good time. They are not all buttoned up like the Fox announcers.
Furman Bitcher
August 12th, 2009
4:55 pm
I never made that argument Spitfinger. Cox manages like crap every game.
dogsbrekky (making a run, woo hooooo)
August 12th, 2009
4:56 pm
God I apologize to all for the 1991 WS debate… and at the heart of the problem was the fact I was just trying to tell “You Are All Cox Apologists” to go forth and multiply or come up with a decent argument on anything… fortunately many here actually can debate logically..
okay god bless all, have a great night
and let’s go Braves
18 Wheels of Love
August 12th, 2009
4:56 pm
Dogsbrekky,
I picked up some Coopers Lager earlier – looking forward to trying it.
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
4:56 pm
The guys on FOX (Mark Grace and Kenny whatshisname) are not anywhere near as bad as the ESPN guys…Miller…Morgan…Phillips…
Brett Esterson
August 12th, 2009
4:57 pm
Mets losing again
Irrational National
August 12th, 2009
4:57 pm
I’ll trade you Zimmerman for Simpson
Louisville brave
August 12th, 2009
4:57 pm
There were a lot of us losers at the ‘91 parade
Gustopher
August 12th, 2009
4:57 pm
McFann you are so right. Joe Morgan puts me to sleep
Shamus Thacker
August 12th, 2009
4:58 pm
Furman Butcher: “”Cox blew the 91 series.”"
Lonnie Smith, the first base ump, and the air conditioning system, played a much larger role.
jack
August 12th, 2009
4:59 pm
i love joe but i would like to see the curlly headed guy from radio take boogs place
AndyC
August 12th, 2009
4:59 pm
McFann
You are right. ESPN is the worse.
scott
August 12th, 2009
4:59 pm
Do you like my lineup below or Bobby’s better?
Infante CF
Prado 2
Jones 3
LaRoche 1
McCann C
Escobar SS
Anderson LF
Church RF
Lowe
Random
August 12th, 2009
5:00 pm
SC Will (August 12th, 2009 1:55 pm): “Caroll, I’ve noticed Chipper often hits a homer in the game directly after he has sat out for at least 2 games (like he did last night.) Any stats on that phenomenon? “
Here’s one place to go to check your theory — MLB.com’s Game by Game Log</strong for Chipper for this season.
Let us know what you find out, okay?
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
5:00 pm
Hilarious.
(Beware of the foul language)
Furman Bitcher
August 12th, 2009
5:00 pm
I was one of them!! Great parade! Was a fun season but I would have loved a title.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
5:01 pm
0-0 Top 5th SF/LA
Furman Bitcher
August 12th, 2009
5:02 pm
Shamus, if we take care of business in game 6 all your points are moot.
AndyC
August 12th, 2009
5:02 pm
I will bitch all I want because that is what I do. – Furman Bitcher
Well, it’s in your name so it makes sense.
Pete
August 12th, 2009
5:02 pm
Louisville brave: “dont forget how unbelievably exciting it was just to be there, and how insanely grateful braves fans were to get a taste of succesful postseason baseball, and how many in baseball regard it as one of the best world series’ ever…do you remember the parade downtown? by far and away the biggest and best celebration for a team that didn’t win the championship…”
Ill never forget it…used to hang out at Beer Mug on PTree lol and I went to Game 4 the excitement etc will never be duplicated. When Braves won in 95, it was not near as exciting as 91 in my opinion, as strange as that seems
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
5:03 pm
scott–replace Infante with Diaz and then flip-flop him and Church and it looks pretty good…
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
5:03 pm
McFann
Co-Sign!
I actually like the FOX telecasts now when Blow Buck And McSlobber aren’t calling the games…
The BSPN Sunday Night Telecast got worse when they added Mets GM Steve Phillips to their crew…
Furman Bitcher
August 12th, 2009
5:04 pm
Thanks Andy. Glad somebody caught that.
Hey Pete, The Beer Mug, now that is a blast from the past!!! I agree, 91 was by far the most fun even though we lost.
brent a.
August 12th, 2009
5:04 pm
Carol, I’ve been with USAA for 6-years. I had almost forgotten what good customer service was until I forged that relationship. Banking, Insurance, Mortgage, car-buying, etc. It’s been great.
chilidog75
August 12th, 2009
5:04 pm
Liebrandt gets such a bad rap by Braves fans that just don’t know any better.
The Atlanta Braves don’t even MAKE the playoffs in 1991 OR 1992 without Charlie Liebrandt, folks.
In 1991, he was 15-13 with a 3.49 (for comparison’s sake, Smoltz was 14-13 with a 3.80 ERA and an absolutely HORRIBLE start to the season).
In 1992, Liebrandt was 15-7 with a 3.36.
The guy was very good for the Braves. It sucks he gave up the bomb to Puckett, but it’s not like Cox was throwing out Kyle Davies or Jo Jo to pitch in the World Series. Liebrandt was a big reason the Braves were there to begin with. He wasn’t a bum.
nolie
August 12th, 2009
5:05 pm
Some video on Cory Rasmus (STEVE)
thanx bro. I like the long stride and leg drive. Seems to repeat his mechanics pretty well for a youngun. Hard to tell much from those video clips about his stuff.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
5:06 pm
Yeah nolie it is but I think I saw one curve that was pretty nasty…
Random
August 12th, 2009
5:06 pm
MFin04 (August 12th, 2009 1:58 pm): “Not a good idea to look past the Nats tonight, they always seem to be a nemesis to the Braves. Hopefully our “Ace” can pitch like an ace tonight. 3-0 since the break with a 3 to 4 era.”
“with a 3 to 4 era”?!?!?!?
Why guess??? Why make us guess??? If you’ve got a point, figure it out and TELL us precisely what his ERA’s been since the break.
Sheesh.
PS: I do agree with the overall thrust of your comment, FWIW.
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
5:07 pm
Gustopher–
Jon Miller’s the one that bugs me the most. Morgan is a VERY CLOSE second…they may even be tied…
AndyC–
Yeah…totally…
scott Do you like my lineup below or Bobby’s better?
I’ll give you 3 guesses as to what my answer would be…
Tomahawkin–
Yeah now, I don’t like Buck and McCarver. Grace and that Kenny guy are fine.
Phillips made me laugh (not in a good way) when he said that Jurrjens did a good job at holding runners on last year. I hope that I heard him wrong, but if he said that, he is dead wrong. JJ lead all NL pitchers in SB allowed last year…
Furman Bitcher
August 12th, 2009
5:07 pm
Hey chillidog, I agree we wouldnt have made it w/o him but Cox went against what he did all year and brought him in to face Puckett. Not smart.
brent a.
August 12th, 2009
5:07 pm
. . . or just say, “When you get Tim Hudson back.”
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
5:11 pm
brent a–
That works!!
Furman Bitcher
August 12th, 2009
5:11 pm
Did I also mention that Liebrandt comming in relief that game was the FIRST time in his career that he had done that.
Bay Area Steve
August 12th, 2009
5:12 pm
Name stealing should result in an immediate ip-address ban.
But, that Lentz quotation marks thing was hilarious.
I’ll never understand why you wouldn’t post that under your usual name. I mean, I said something about misusing quotes last night, but your thing was Wurlitzer-worthy. Of course, you should still be banned.
woogidy
August 12th, 2009
5:12 pm
Got a question. Let’s say the Braves were in the same position as the BoSox. Mind you, they are fading fast now with a hot team pulling away from them. Your best hitter charges the mound, now he’s out 5 games. Are you happy ’cause the “team needed a spark”? or are you upset that your best hitter is out for 5 games?
Shamus Thacker
August 12th, 2009
5:13 pm
Pete: When Braves won in 95, it was not near as exciting as 91 in my opinion, as strange as that seems
95′ was post-strike, everything baseball seemed a little less exciting for a while…
Louisville brave
August 12th, 2009
5:13 pm
Benches clearing in LA/SF game…Kung Fu Panda got hit by pitch
Anders
August 12th, 2009
5:13 pm
What’s up Braves fans? Just me with my nose up against the window looking in on the playoff race. Sure looks like fun.Definetly missing it. Heart break and all.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
5:13 pm
Video of Adam Milligan:
http://www.mlb.com/media/player/mp_tpl_3_1.jsp?w_id=702367&w=/2008/open/draft/broll/br_milligan_adam_400.wmv&mid=200805302799802&pid=gen_video&vid=11071&cid=mlb&v=2&bypass=true
And video of most of the 2008 draftees:
http://www.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2008/drafttracker.jsp?p=0&s=30&sc=pick_number&so=ascending&st=number&ft=TM&fv=atl
Gone Viral
August 12th, 2009
5:13 pm
“Did I also mention that Liebrandt comming in relief that game was the FIRST time in his career that he had done that.”
That happens a lot in the playoffs.
Brett Esterson
August 12th, 2009
5:14 pm
Yanks walk-off. Ex Pirate Sanchez gives SF a 1-0 lead
Lew
August 12th, 2009
5:15 pm
Pete-Actually, I debated with you though your point was sophomoric at best. All losses count. Wow. Did you come up with that one all by yourself?
You might also notice that Apologist/Johnson and Johnson/etc. was the one I had words for. Maybe you’d like to know why I did? Unfortunately the post he made about my wife last week was deleted so you will have to take my (and Carroll’s) word, because, like the Nameless DBag said, I reported him/her/it. Honestly, I should just give the Nameless Idiot my address just to see if they’ve got the requisite genitals to come get taught some manners. Isn’t it amazing how brave and full of themselves they are when they won’t have to face the person they slurred?
I’ll be more than glad to debate you (when you have something worth debating) any time at all. If, however, you want to talk trash about my wife of 34 years, then the game changes. Got it?
Anders
August 12th, 2009
5:15 pm
God- as if things weren’t bad enough being a Mets fan the Yanks are starting to look like their ‘98 club. God help us all.
nolie
August 12th, 2009
5:16 pm
USAA, actually (Carroll)
yeah I use them too. Very highly rated by Consumer Reports as insurance and also as a credit card company. They were also great about the house when Hurricane Charlie did so much damage here. Very very good company!
Irrational National
August 12th, 2009
5:16 pm
Breaking News: Smoltz mulling a chance to start with the Washington Nationals. http://www.natsinsider.com/smoltz/close_to_accepting_offer
Link requires registration though.
CameronC
August 12th, 2009
5:17 pm
Nolie, iv been to about 10 Danville Braves games this season, Ramus is pretty good. Has good stuff.
Shamus Thacker
August 12th, 2009
5:17 pm
Furman Butcher: Did I also mention that Liebrandt comming in relief that game was the FIRST time in his career that he had done that.
No, it wasn’t.
Anders
August 12th, 2009
5:17 pm
Based on Lew’s 5:15 I get the feeling like when you walk in on a bar fight. You walk in just as everyone’s moving the stools against the walls and you think “Oh Sh..t!”
Lew
August 12th, 2009
5:17 pm
chilidog-Charlie Leibrandt was the first of Leo Mazzone’s out to pasture reclamation projects. You’re absolutely correct. NO playoffs in 91 or 92 without him.
Random
August 12th, 2009
5:17 pm
Tomahawkin (August 12th, 2009 2:04 pm): “I’m Not Hating on Chipper but Can we get some Clutch 3 Run Bombs From him…? He hit another meaningless homer last night in a blowout win against a rookie pitcher…”
Geezum, Will — will the idiocy never cease???
Chipper has no more control over who’s on base in front of him than he does in “deciding” in which Plate Appearances he’s going to hit a home run.
C’mon, people — buy a friggin vowel.
Or are you saying that sometimes Chipper doesn’t even try — specifically, when there’re runners on base, he deliberately slacks off? (No, I know that’s not what you’re meaning to say, but dear boy, it’s definitely implied in your words. Logically, dontcha know.)
PS: I know you ain’t hatin’, but really my dear — your slip is showing.
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
5:17 pm
There are a total of 4 clips on youtube from that infamous Padres-Braves brawl at Fulton County Stadium in 1984. The second clip is the one that has all the action on it. 3 pitches get ejected for the Padres, all trying to hit Pascual Perez.
Champ Summers, the Padres’ Greg Norton at the time, tried to play tough guy and go after Pascual in the Braves dugout. Bob Horner came out wearing a cast, got into the Chumpster’s face and tackled him to the ground. One Braves fan stood on top of the Braves dugout and sprayed a cup of beer onto Chump while another fan leap frogged from his seat onto the back of Summers as Bob Horner was taking the Chumpster to the ground. It was definitely the baseball version of the Ron Artest melee back in 2004.
I remember watching this game as a 12 year old. However, I havent seen these clips in years. It was comical. Tim Flannery, who is the 3rd base coach of the Giants, was beaten up by Gerald Perry towards the end of the many mini-fights that broke out that day.
I must say, the way Bob Horner come out and got into the Chumpster’s grill still makes me proud to be a Braves fan.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
5:18 pm
I know that I’m just supposed to present info and offer no opinion (as ruled by the blogger temporarily posting as Reality), but I’ll go ahead and say that (a real stretch here, I know) that Craig Kimbrel’s stuff looks really good on that MLB video.
His mechanics worry me a bit though.
Anders
August 12th, 2009
5:18 pm
Enter your comments here
Robert (Chipper Is The Best)
August 12th, 2009
5:18 pm
Anders, you may appreciate this? I was listening to the Dan Patrick Show this morning and Chris Rock was on. He was talking about his hearbreak over the Mets adn Minaya’s obsession with Latin players. Rock said, “Why did he not sign Derek Lowe? I wonder if his name was Derek Lopez if he would’ve signed him.” I thought that was a great line.
Lew
August 12th, 2009
5:19 pm
Anders-I promise they really wouldn’t want to meet me face to face. NO concerns about that, though. The hit and run under an anonymous blog name is more their style. Like I said-no requisite cohones-just hot air on a blog with no accountability.
Anders
August 12th, 2009
5:19 pm
Sorry, I hit the submit button while ducking the pool cue Lew just hurled.
woogidy
August 12th, 2009
5:19 pm
By the way, Lincecum just got the run supoort he needed. 1-0 Giants, 5th inning.
Anders
August 12th, 2009
5:20 pm
Robert – true dat. In the spirit of Chris Rock.
Furman Bitcher
August 12th, 2009
5:20 pm
Sorry Shamus you are incorrect
Bay Area Steve
August 12th, 2009
5:20 pm
I wish I had the wit to say something funny about Lew’s wife, in the vein of good-natured ribbing, that even he would find funny.
Unfortunately, I got nothing, and even if I was close, am afraid Lew would come to California and shoot me…
But there’s somethin’ there; the timing woulda been prefect.
Roman Gal
August 12th, 2009
5:21 pm
dissenting has the word “diss” right in the middle of it. Bubdylan
Right in the middle of it, eh? Haha…don’t worry, I saw your correction, but this made me laugh.
chilidog75
August 12th, 2009
5:22 pm
Furman,
I hear what you’re saying.
But in the 12th inning of a possible WS clinching game, you might do some first-time things. (Like Randy Johnson pitching in relief for the Diamondbacks in Game 7 against the Yankees on zero day’s rest, for instance).
Plus, what most people don’t remember is that Liebrandt had faced Puckett twice in Game 1. He struck him out both times. Easily.
And the Braves’ two best relievers – Stanton and Pena – had already pitched two innings each. Who did you want to go to? Clancy? In that spot?
I just don’t think it was nearly as boneheaded a decision as people think. It just didn’t work out.
But, even if you think Cox was a complete dolt for using Liebrandt, it wasn’t the reason the Braves lost the WS. Ron Gant not being able to get a run home in a second and third, no-out situation in Game 7 had MUCH MORE to do with the Twins winning than Liebrandt’s relief appearance did.
Steve McP
August 12th, 2009
5:24 pm
Carroll – Do you get the feeling that McLouth could have a more serious injury than the Braves have admitted, or are they just giving him exta rest against the Nats so that he is in the best shape for the weekend?
Lew
August 12th, 2009
5:24 pm
BAS- It was crass, sexually reprehensible and totally uncalled for. You’ve known me on this blog for five years or so. I give and get with the best of them. I can take anything thrown at me and send it right back. It’s all part of the game. This was a bit beyond the pale however. Nothing funny whatsoever. Something I would never hear from you or 99.9% of the rest of the Denizens.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
5:25 pm
It just didn’t work out.
There’s the key, chilidog. As usual with the blog, the ends often make the means irrelevant.
vermont39
August 12th, 2009
5:25 pm
Give BC a break…when the players play…. he is a genius!!!
Shamus Thacker
August 12th, 2009
5:26 pm
Furman Butcher, Liebrandt relieved in games in 80′, 81′, 82′ (25-games), 84′, and 89′.
You must have meant it was the FIRST time in his career, after about 50 others?
Lew
August 12th, 2009
5:26 pm
Someone else on the blog from Vermont?
Furman Bitcher
August 12th, 2009
5:27 pm
Chili, I cant disagree at all with the hitters holding a lot of blame for not getting guys in. On a side note, how about the team we have now with Infante back. We really have some depth right now. Knock on wood.
Random
August 12th, 2009
5:27 pm
owl hunter (August 12th, 2009 2:14 pm): “Kawakami is always up against an ace. He often rises to the occasion. Could this be on purpose?”
You mean like in college tennis matches, where a sneaky coach will sometimes match his 6th seed against the other team’s ace, so that his own ace will play the other team’s #2, his #2 will play their #3, etc, etc?
I dunno — maybe. (I doubt it, though. Me, I blame society.)
PS: in the context of this comment, “society” = “coincidence”.
PPS: Dan Magill taught me everything I know about college tennis, so blame him for this comment. Or Eliot Telscher.
Anders
August 12th, 2009
5:27 pm
Omar Goodbya
Nomore Minaya
These are the names now being used in reference to the Mets GM in these parts. It’s just a matter of time I’m afraid. (Or maybe not)
You can never say I don’t share some good stuff.
Heath
August 12th, 2009
5:28 pm
Bill Hall (Brewers) sure has fallen from grace… Wonder what has caused his constant decline over the last 3 years? He had a pretty good two-year run before his decline -
2005 Mil 146 Games 69 R, 146 H, 39 2B, 17 HR, 62 RBI, .291/.342/.495/.837
2006 Mil 148 Games 101 R, 145 H, 39 2B, 35 HR, 85 RBI, .270/.345/.553/.898
Wonder if he could benefit from a change of scenery like Frenchy (so far…jury is out…but still)?
monty
August 12th, 2009
5:28 pm
Louisville Brave
“Why don’t you just quit you’re bitc*ing.”
Yeh, why don’t you LB?
Anders
August 12th, 2009
5:28 pm
Someone else on the blog from Vermont? (Lew)
Doubtful. I believe there’s still only one connection up that way. And you have it.
Furman Bitcher
August 12th, 2009
5:29 pm
Keep trying Shamus. keep trying.
nolie
August 12th, 2009
5:30 pm
but it seemed to me as if the Braves gave Glavine a break by letting him pitch his way into game shape before letting him go. At least it allowed him to audition for other teams who may have wanted to sign him after he was released. (Piedmont)
I agree entirely. I see no way that they mistreated him. It would have been worse if they had released him earlier, they gave him the opportunity to get completely rehabed on their dime. And their scouts were obviously correct as nobody else came calling. I also can’t believe that people are still whining about it.
Shamus Thacker
August 12th, 2009
5:30 pm
Furman Butcher: Sorry Shamus you are incorrect
Nay nay nay Sir, YOU are incorrect…
Louisville brave
August 12th, 2009
5:33 pm
Monty…i guess all the bitc*ing is contagious
Random
August 12th, 2009
5:34 pm
Nova Scotia Steve (August 12th, 2009 2:17 pm): “Let’s just hope its not the Florida Marlins Kawakami…”
Or perhaps the Cincinnati Reds’ Kawakami?
(Though he was totally snakebit that game. I mean, 8 ERs?!?!? In less than 5 IP?!?!? No way.)
Shamus Thacker
August 12th, 2009
5:34 pm
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/leibrch01.shtml
Here’s you a link Mr. Butcher. God down the line and look at G (Games) and GS (Games Started).
If you’ll notice, there’s a disparity there.
I accept your apology…
Anders
August 12th, 2009
5:35 pm
nolie- I believe the issue with Glavine was he understood that as long as he was able to get back to health and pitch respectively (Very subjective) that he would get an oppurtunity to pitch in the bigs this year which his contract called for to get the first payment. He did all that and then, in his eyes anyway, had the rug pulled out from under him at the last minute when the Braves went in another direction. I think he was chasing an old dream anyway but the Braves aren’t clean in this , at least imo.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
5:36 pm
Some bad vibes here today…
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
5:36 pm
[garble garble garble]…curse words…[garble garble garble]…
Lineup:
1. R Church, CF
2. M Prado, 2B
3. C Jones, 3B
4. B McCann, C
5. Y Escobar, SS
6. G Anderson, LF
7. A LaRoche, 1B
8. M Diaz, RF
9. D Lowe, P
Gone Viral
August 12th, 2009
5:37 pm
“Sorry Shamus you are incorrect”
Only a cursory review of his career stats will show that his first three appearances in the majors were in relief.
The fascinating thing about the internet is how much people will cling to a wrong opinion in the face of facts.
Random
August 12th, 2009
5:37 pm
dcraig16 (August 12th, 2009 2:19 pm): “carroll: i have usaa also, they are awesome.”
I’ve got USAA auto insurance, too, and I don’t even drive a car.
How awesome is that?!?!?
monty
August 12th, 2009
5:37 pm
There is an easy solution to not wanting to listen to somebody’s opinion(griping about past failures of BC) on the blog. It’s called, “scrolling past”! It really does work, I use it quite frequently.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
5:38 pm
Juan Pierre hits a triple….dude that guy is pesky…can’t stand it.
But he’s good
Pete
August 12th, 2009
5:38 pm
chilidog75: “The Atlanta Braves don’t even MAKE the playoffs in 1991 OR 1992 without Charlie Liebrandt, folks.”
I AGREE 100%….and you can say that for many players on that team, but once the series starts, its irrelevant. Are you telling me you start Game 1 with Leibrandt over Cy Young Award winner Glavine, who had 4 days rest?
Heath
August 12th, 2009
5:38 pm
McFann -
I take it you don’t like the occupant in the clean-up spot?
Robert (Chipper Is The Best)
August 12th, 2009
5:39 pm
I wish Chipper would feel comfortable batting 4th because I think Escobar would be better batting 3rd and McCann 5th.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
5:39 pm
2-1 Giants
monty
August 12th, 2009
5:39 pm
Complainers complaining about complaining.LOL!
Louisville brave
August 12th, 2009
5:40 pm
And on a random note…what’s with the themes in all these Viagra ads? You have to take your wife to some remote ilsand villa just to bone? Cant you just roll over and say honey, let’s get it on? Isn’t that one of the few benefits of having a life partner? The sure thing
Shamus Thacker
August 12th, 2009
5:40 pm
Thank you, Gone Viral…
Pete
August 12th, 2009
5:40 pm
Lew: “Pete-Actually, I debated with you though your point was sophomoric at best. All losses count. Wow. Did you come up with that one all by yourself?”
Wow…didnt know that. And obviously, you dont know that some losses count more than others. Should you need an explanation, pls advise.
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
5:41 pm
Anders………….you keep forgetting that the Braves were counting on Glavine to be available to make his first start on April 18th. It wasnt until the second week of June that Glavine was healthy enough to pitch. By then Tommy Hanson had proven that he deserved a shot in the Majors.
Again, the Braves did not do Glavine wrong………Glavine’s shoulder did him wrong.
Schafer Obliterator
August 12th, 2009
5:41 pm
Shamus- you are correct about Liebrandt but I think the biggest mistake and major one many have called on Bobby (IMO in looking back) was starting him (CL) instead of our gun Glavine in game 1 in 1991 but Charlie Liebrandt was a major winner in that year and 2002 and the bullpen use in that fateful 12th inning was okay.. who else was left !
Louisville brave
August 12th, 2009
5:41 pm
Yeah it takes one to know one…something about when you have one finger pointing at someone you got three pointing back at yourself
monty
August 12th, 2009
5:41 pm
Let’s go Dodgers!!
Chucktown Brave
August 12th, 2009
5:43 pm
$250?!?! Dang! With full coverage in South Carolina… all windshield replacements are free!
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
5:43 pm
Good guess, Heath.
Pete
August 12th, 2009
5:43 pm
Lew: “I’ll be more than glad to debate you (when you have something worth debating) any time at all. If, however, you want to talk trash about my wife of 34 years, then the game changes. Got it?”
You got the wrong guy I never referenced your wife in any way, so same to you. Get your posts straight…….that comment above was directed to me for whatever reason and totally unnecessary.
Pete
August 12th, 2009
5:45 pm
Anders: “Based on Lew’s 5:15 I get the feeling like when you walk in on a bar fight. You walk in just as everyone’s moving the stools against the walls and you think “Oh Sh..t!”
LOL thats pretty accurate in my opinion
Cow-a-Commie
August 12th, 2009
5:46 pm
Oh yeah? No, YOU shut up!
nolie
August 12th, 2009
5:46 pm
but if he’s gonna have a slow delivery (and since he’s pitching so good, why should he change anything), (McFann)
good insight. I doubt they will try much to change his mechanics and pace as long as he is doing well. They knew through the minors that he was slow and didn’t press the issue. When you start messing with the mechanics of a pitcher who is succeeding you can end up with a mess sometimes. LWEA
Louisville brave
August 12th, 2009
5:46 pm
McFann :O:
Who else do we put at clean up?
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
5:46 pm
Is it game-time yet???? Jesus…8O
chilidog75
August 12th, 2009
5:47 pm
Pete,
If Liebrandt didn’t start Game 1, he would’ve started Game 2. Unless you wanted to have just a three-man rotation.
With Avery and Smoltz both having basically pitched complete games in Game 6 and 7 of the NLCS, neither was going to be fresh enough to pitch that opening weekend in Minnesota, in my opinion.
So yeah, you could’ve started Tommy in Game 1. But someone (Liebrandt) still would’ve had to pitch Game 2.
Random
August 12th, 2009
5:47 pm
Nova Scotia Steve (August 12th, 2009 2:25 pm): “I don’t know if its fair to say “its the kind of game KK wins”…I mean he’s had two amazing starts of them…The Blue Jays back in May and the Dodgers…out of 16 or 17 starts.”
AND he’s outpitched and beaten Dice-K TWICE (once in ST). You better believe there is absolutely NO bigger game for Kawakami than that.
And 95% of all his other starts have been serviceable, perhaps even laudable.
So back off Kawakami, okay?
PS: “out of 16 or 17 starts”. WTF — is there some kind of epidemic endemic pandemic that prevents people from actually looking stuff up, that forces them to just guess???? FTH?!?!?
PPS: R.I.P., FJM.
Pete
August 12th, 2009
5:47 pm
Lew: “Anders-I promise they really wouldn’t want to meet me face to face. NO concerns about that, though. The hit and run under an anonymous blog name is more their style. Like I said-no requisite cohones-just hot air on a blog with no accountability.”
Is that the pot calling the kettle black, or what?? lol
Heath
August 12th, 2009
5:49 pm
Louisville brave
August 12th, 2009
5:46 pm
McFann :O:
Who else do we put at clean up?
-Escobar would work – based on his propensity to deliver in the clutch and since his lefty/righty splits aren’t anywhere near as awful as McCann’s. :
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=28662
Pete
August 12th, 2009
5:49 pm
Anders: “Sorry, I hit the submit button while ducking the pool cue Lew just hurled”
He just punched a huge hole in his monitor lol
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
5:49 pm
Random..
My apologies he had 21 starts…of crap…with the exception of deuce…
(semi-kidding)
Random
August 12th, 2009
5:50 pm
TommyP (August 12th, 2009 2:28 pm): “Was it yesterday that the Milwaukee GM said it would take a #1 or #2 starter to pry JJ Hardy from them?
“And then he’s shipped off to the minors today.”
I see no irony or disconnect here — he’s still with the Brewers, right?
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
5:52 pm
Be thankful that the Mets didnt go after Derek Lowe. If they did, then chances are Frank Wren may have chosen to go after Oliver Perez.
Through 5 innings today, Perez only gave up 1 run………however he gave up 6 hits and walks on 109 pitches. The Mets signed him for 3 years, $36 mil. Kind of makes Kawakami look like a bargain.
gcs
August 12th, 2009
5:52 pm
This is totally unrelated to the article above but think about the 2004 Braves. It wasn’t that long ago, right?
There are only two current Braves that were on that team. One is Adam LaRoche who just returned to the team. The other is Chipper Jones.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/ATL/2004.shtml
.
Heath
August 12th, 2009
5:52 pm
Anders -
With all the bad press and luck for the Mets in recent years, maybe you could recommend to the team owners that they rekindle the the times of good things passed by renaming to the New York Gothams. That’s got to help the team compete with the Yanks right? I doubt the Giants would mind.
Whatta ya think?
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
5:52 pm
PS
I understant the magnitude surrounding his start against Dice-K…But look at what he’s done this year…NOTHING for Boston
AAA
Lew
August 12th, 2009
5:53 pm
Pete-You can say it was that loss in Philly. You can say it was one of the three saves that MFIKY blew. You can call it the game where Yunel mouthed to the Official Scorer, or one of the times Norton didn’t get a Pinch hit, or, or, or. The game last year with Kelly’s drop up. Or that blown save by Wickman in Florida a couple years ago. Whatever. Kind of like a self fulfilling prophecy-very like something Coach Moon Pie (I’ve Given Up Because I Know We’ll Never Win Until; 2014) would say.
If you base your assumption that a season was lost due to one particular game then what you’re dealing with is a situation that dooms you the minute it happens. In essence, we should have hung it up after less than a week’s worth of games when we blew that lead to the Phillies the third time we played them, because we had already lost. At least if you look at it like you do.
In case you hadn’t learned it yet, you can’t go back and change the situation, but if you look at what I was talking about, you’d have a situation where it wouldn’t happen AGAIN, because the offenders were either traded, disabled, DFAed or were performing in a totally opposite manner. I guess that is irrelevant to you though.
Couch Tater
August 12th, 2009
5:53 pm
Steve from OH,
This looks like something you’d be interested in.
http://www.shoulder1.com/video/global/wmvplayer.cfm?multimediaid=36
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
5:53 pm
In my last posting, I meant to say “given up 6 hits and 6 walks”.
Mid Town Joe
August 12th, 2009
5:53 pm
Greg in TN, thanks for the 1984 clips. My favorite is when the fan chunks his beer on Champ Summers, and Bob Horner is there to great him.
Brightside
August 12th, 2009
5:54 pm
Does anybody know if Ernie Sr. is still physically able to do a game if he wanted too? He had an excitement in his voice. It sounded like he just loved the game and what he was doing. His voice was so pleasant. I would sure love to hear him once in a while.
Louisville brave
August 12th, 2009
5:54 pm
Heath
I like the idea of Escobar at clean up…McCann seems like a better 5 hole hitter
Random
Who is FJM that passed away?
Carroll Rogers
August 12th, 2009
5:54 pm
Steve McP, just talked to Nate today. I don’t think it’s anymore serious that anybody has said, he was in the first lineup yesterday. They’re hoping by sitting out today and the off day tomorrow he’ll be ready to go. Nate agreed. Said it was feeling better today and he expects to be in there Friday.
DP
August 12th, 2009
5:55 pm
Oh God, it’s the Leibrandt in relief thing again.
As has already been pointed out, Cox had already used his best relievers (Stanton and Pena) for 2 innings each. Leibrandt was well rested and potentially could have given the Braves 4 or 5 innings. It’s not like it was the first home run Puckett ever hit or that he wouldn’t have hit it off anybody else.
It’s the easiest thing in the world to criticize a move after it doesn’t work out, but strategically there was nothing wrong with it.
Carroll Rogers
August 12th, 2009
5:55 pm
Nats hitting coach Rick Eckstein got suspended one game and fined for coming out on the field last night to argue….
it was suggested to me by one of the Braves coaches that he was probably trying to take the heat for one of the Nationals players who might have been barking from the dugout.
Pete
August 12th, 2009
5:56 pm
Chilidog, you still didnt answer my question….. do you start the Cy Young Award winner or your #4 starter in Game 1, with both having enough rest?
Random
August 12th, 2009
5:56 pm
You all are Cox apologists –
Let’s get this straight — Bobby Cox needs absolutely NO ONE to apologize or make excuses for him.
If you want to be taken seriously, I suggest you change your “handle”.
Mid Town Joe
August 12th, 2009
5:56 pm
Louisville brave – I just got through listening to Doug Gottleib, and he is all over the Pitino mess. He believes the U of L away games will be bruttal, especially U Conn and W. VA in regard to fan treatment.
DP
August 12th, 2009
5:58 pm
Hey Pete, given that Glavine was only going to get 2 starts in the series, what difference did it make whether he started game 1 or 2?
Lew
August 12th, 2009
5:59 pm
Pete-Considering that you’re new here (at least I don’t remember you), you’d know that most here on the blog know that my name is Lew Hartman, that I have an extremely up front profile and that I’ve given free artwork to the Denizens of this blog for five years, including my return address with all 100-150 packages I’ve sent to those who’ve won blog prizes or asked for a print.. They know my email address, my website address and because of that, they know my actual street address.
Yeah, you must know what you;re talking about. I’m anonymous like some DBag that changes his fictitious, totally anonymous name at a whim to give people crap he wouldn’t have the guts to say to their face.
You got it now?
nolie
August 12th, 2009
6:02 pm
Joe Simpson is a brilliant baseball man (Mixxo)
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
6:02 pm
Louisville brave–
Yeah, Escobar should be #4, BMac #5. The lefty-righty splits for one, and Yunel’s got a better AVG with RISP–.421 for YE, .301 for BMac…which isn’t bad, but…
RHR
August 12th, 2009
6:03 pm
Are half the posts really about insurance and windshields?
Other than that…everyone here seems to be on their period.
Random, mowing ‘em down…he’s not gonna take it anymore. And he thought us 3 females..err I mean “gorgons” ruined his blog? LOL.
Random
August 12th, 2009
6:04 pm
Bay Area Steve (August 12th, 2009 3:02 pm): “interesting theory, the sarcasm filter. Since most of mine are…And, you’re right about it not being a size, profanity, normal-filter thing…”
Yeah, I think we may be on to something.
I’ve been playing it straight all afternoon, and no problem aqui.
(Though I have started pushing the envelope in my most recent comments. Just testing my boundaries — it’s only natural.)
RHR
August 12th, 2009
6:06 pm
it was suggested to me by one of the Braves coaches that he was probably trying to take the heat for one of the Nationals players who might have been barking from the dugout
Oh he definitely was.
Chris
August 12th, 2009
6:06 pm
Nate should try some Yoga, he is too tight, needs to lay off the weights, maybe then he will stop trying to be Babe Ruth and popping out and getting injured. I hope the Braves do not forget they have a game in an hour and dont overlook the Nats, they could easily put a 10 spot on Lowe if the sinker does not sink.
Random
August 12th, 2009
6:07 pm
DOB –
I can still hardly believe that you don’t have a segment on 96.1’s “The Giant Show” in the mornings.
With your Braves’ insights and your pop music fluency, I’d figure you’d be a natural.
Time for a new agent?
AustinBrave
August 12th, 2009
6:07 pm
Whats the weather like?
RHR
August 12th, 2009
6:09 pm
Who is FJM that passed away?
MFin04
August 12th, 2009
6:09 pm
Morgan should have been thrown out last night. He argued on the field for a minute or two and then argued for 2-3 more minutes from the dugout. Not sure what it takes to get thrown out, but he far exceeded that last night.
And I agree McFann that Brian has gotten hosed on a lot of calls this year, but that call at third was horrible, I don’t even know how an ump 2 feet away gets that wrong. But, you’re correct, the umps owe McCann a few more.
nolie
August 12th, 2009
6:10 pm
Liebrandt gets such a bad rap by Braves fans that just don’t know any better.
The Atlanta Braves don’t even MAKE the playoffs in 1991 OR 1992 without Charlie Liebrandt, folks (CHILI
very good post. Charlie was a vital part of those clubs and was not the horrible choice that all the whiners love to biatch about.
Roman Gal
August 12th, 2009
6:11 pm
And he thought us 3 females..err I mean “gorgons” ruined his blog?
He ought to be careful before he works himself into a rut.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
6:13 pm
Bill Hohn is going the 3rd base line in the Giants/Dodgers game.
He just ejected a fan…who was actually wearing a Braves jersey!
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
6:13 pm
Actually I’m kidding…but he was just booed badly for not picking up a foul ball…
nolie
August 12th, 2009
6:14 pm
Video of Adam Milligan (STEVE)
I wonder if the Braves actually know how to draft a right handed hitter?
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
6:15 pm
MFin04 And I agree McFann that Brian has gotten hosed on a lot of calls this year
Thank you.
but that call at third was horrible, I don’t even know how an ump 2 feet away gets that wrong.
Like when Laz Diaz called BMac out at second in Baltimore when Brian stretched a single into a double? Course, that was a tad differ’nt, ’cause Diaz wasn’t in the right spot to make the call…That thing last night was more like the play in NY on May 12 when Beltran “stole third”. That call was so bad…and it cost us the game (partly). The call last night didn’t make a difference.
But, you’re correct, the umps owe McCann a few more.
Mm-hmm. 3 or 4 more and we cann call it even.
Mixxo
August 12th, 2009
6:15 pm
nolie –
I didn’t say he was the most talented, but he does have some good insight to the idiosyncrasies of the game.
BTW…..Lincecum is throwing a neat 2-hitter out yonder.
Random
August 12th, 2009
6:16 pm
DAP (August 12th, 2009 3:20 pm): “if the braves win every 3 game series, and split 4 gamers and the current two gamer, (meaning a loss tonight) they will win 90 games.”
Countin’ the chickens, eh?
You just jinxed the Braves’ entire season. Yes, even retroactively — at least 50 previous losses can now be laid right on your doorstep.
I hope you’re happy.
Ben from "Ben & Jerry's"
August 12th, 2009
6:18 pm
Lew,
Sucks up here, don’t it?
1eyedJack
August 12th, 2009
6:18 pm
Carroll
Any word on who the Bravos may have tried to sneak through waivers?
Random
August 12th, 2009
6:18 pm
WTG, monty</strong!!! (August 12th, 2009 3:26 pm)
Couch Tater
August 12th, 2009
6:20 pm
Random,
Live geezer cam. http://www.nps.gov/yell/photosmultimedia/webcams.htm
You can see the next geezer at 4:27 MDT
Pete
August 12th, 2009
6:20 pm
Lew: “In case you hadn’t learned it yet, you can’t go back and change the situation, but if you look at what I was talking about, you’d have a situation where it wouldn’t happen AGAIN, because the offenders were either traded, disabled, DFAed or were performing in a totally opposite manner. I guess that is irrelevant to you though.”
In fact, for that game it is irrelevant. You mention some of the “culprits” are gone or whatever, and thats certainly true….but Cox is still there. What I mean by that is you conveniently leave out the part where Cox watched 7 runs score to tie the game late, all the while leaving his 2 best relievers, Gonzo and Soriano, in the pen. Now why would he do something that idiotic? Pls let me know and dont forget they had played a game the day before but were off the day before that, so they had played 3 games in 4 days. Surely at some point he should have thought “enough is enough….if theyre gonna beat me, theyre gonna beat my best” and brought in at least 1 of them, ya think? Defend him all you want, but it was a bonehead decision in my opinion.
nolie
August 12th, 2009
6:21 pm
Nolie, iv been to about 10 Danville Braves games this season, Ramus is pretty good. Has good stuf (CAMERON)
good to hear. I can’t get around to most of the teams anymore. Always interested in first hand reports.
nolie
August 12th, 2009
6:23 pm
His mechanics worry me a bit though. (STEVE)
hows that?
Greg in TN
August 12th, 2009
6:23 pm
Mid Town Joe: Glad to help. I loved watching them.
Haven’t been up on YT for very long and it irritates me to no end that some very early TBS stuff with the Braves from the 80s was taken down when someone from MLB Advanced Media noticed and petitioned YT for it’s removal. Understand the copyright infringement completely, but at some point, if you don’t have a DVD with the footage available to sell from that era, taking older broadcast footage like that away from the fans shoots themselves in the foot more than it helps their cause IMO.
Really hoping for a little rain in Rome next week before Friday (catchy little ditty if you ask me). Can’t make Minor’s debut on Thursday, but planning on being there for Friday’s game with the Riverdogs and will be in Chattanooga Saturday and Sunday to watch Mississip’ play the Lookouts.
Pete
August 12th, 2009
6:24 pm
Lew: “Yeah, you must know what you;re talking about. I’m anonymous like some DBag that changes his fictitious, totally anonymous name at a whim to give people crap he wouldn’t have the guts to say to their face.
You got it now?”
Yes Im new here this year, and you posted to me about criticizing your wife in a disgusting manner, none of which I had anything to do with. So whats there to “get?”
Schafer Obliterator
August 12th, 2009
6:25 pm
Pete – that horrible 7 run blown game was nauseating but many would argue that Moylan was a type 1 reliever and he was horrible as well.
Schafer Obliterator
August 12th, 2009
6:25 pm
Mets choke again, I do love this so
Frankie Knuckles
August 12th, 2009
6:25 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4394300
- Smoltz refused option. Shocker.
Lew
August 12th, 2009
6:28 pm
Pete-Bone headed decision or not-it can’t be changed now, can it? Besides, you’re griping that he didn’t use either Gonzo or Soriano. Now the hue and cry is that they’re used too much. NO way for him to win is there? Damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t and it still changes nothing. And where did you see that I defended him or even mentioned him except responding to the Idiot?
Pete
August 12th, 2009
6:29 pm
Schafer Obliterator: “Pete – that horrible 7 run blown game was nauseating but many would argue that Moylan was a type 1 reliever and he was horrible as well.”
So are you suggesting that Gonzo and Soriano should have remained in the pen during that mess?
Roman Gal
August 12th, 2009
6:29 pm
Greg in TN-
The game last night was rained out. I wonder if they’ll push his start back…
Lew
August 12th, 2009
6:29 pm
No I posted to someone else about it. Had nothing whatsoever to do with you.
Random
August 12th, 2009
6:31 pm
“Well, I own the place, I run the place. It’s my job to know all my customers.”
If I thought that any convenience store or gas station owner was keeping tabs on all my purchases, my birthday, cc# (implied), etc, they would never see me again.
That’s just too much info in the wrong hands.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
6:32 pm
Guys…the umps in San Fran are the worst I’ve seen I think this year.
I mean it’s bad.
Bruce Bochey AND their bench coach have been tossed….So we’re not the only ones getting screwed
And apparently the announcers say the crew has been horrible for all three days…and yes the crew does involve that Bill Hohn guy or whatever his name is…
What going with umps this year…we’re hearing a lot abotu blown call…like a lot.
Could be coming time to get replay more involved.
Jerry
August 12th, 2009
6:33 pm
I had thought the mets game was final
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
6:33 pm
Furcal on 2nd…two out in the 9th…2-1 game
The Freak going for the complete game…against you guessed it…Andre Either
A FAN
August 12th, 2009
6:35 pm
DODGERS!!!!!!
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
6:35 pm
EITHER COMES THROUGH AGAIN…2-2
Random
August 12th, 2009
6:36 pm
Lew (August 12th, 2009 3:55 pm): “Better to be a delusional fan than a complete and utter ass and Idiot.”
And you should know, right, having yourself lived both lives? On alternate days?
Louisville brave
August 12th, 2009
6:36 pm
Andre Ethier is a beast…just tied the game in ninth w/ 2outs and 2 strikes on him against Lincecum
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
6:36 pm
Thanks to the umpiring crew, Andre Either got a chance to drive in Rafael Furcal to tie the game up. Linecum now gone, 2 outs top of the 9th, runner on 1st……..score 2-2.
Random
August 12th, 2009
6:36 pm
Lew –JK, JK!!!
Greg in TN
August 12th, 2009
6:36 pm
RG: Not sure if that will push Minor back or not. One can hope, but I’d say it’d have to be something after their next off day which is Tuesday to affect Minor’s scheduled start. When do the gates typically open at State Mutual?
Lew
August 12th, 2009
6:37 pm
Pete-You said I had called you names (what are you, 13 that that even matters?). What I said to you was that you had an anal fixation on a point of view that could almost certainly be proven right in hindsight, but was really shortsighted and irrelevant.
I told you WHY I had called this reprobate names. It’s obvious that it didn’t matter to you-you didn’t want to hear an explanation.
However, if someone telling you that you’re anally fixated upsets you that greatly, you might want to find another forum. You wouldn’t like traversing the mine field we see here on a daily basis.
Maybe Braveheart will tell you about the RROE sometime.
Pete
August 12th, 2009
6:37 pm
Lew: “Pete-Bone headed decision or not-it can’t be changed now, can it? Besides, you’re griping that he didn’t use either Gonzo or Soriano. Now the hue and cry is that they’re used too much. NO way for him to win is there? Damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t and it still changes nothing. And where did you see that I defended him or even mentioned him except responding to the Idiot?”
My response was addressing your comments about the culprits gone, DL whatever, while conveniently leaving out other important facts. Since I am not part of that “hue and cry,” pls dont confuse me with others’ posts….has nothing to do with our debate because it is not my opinion.
Mitchell
August 12th, 2009
6:38 pm
How bout some runs for JJ… ay Braves?
That rhymes.
nolie
August 12th, 2009
6:38 pm
nolie- I believe the issue with Glavine was he understood that as long as he was able to get back to health and pitch respectively (Very subjective) that he would get an oppurtunity to pitch in the bigs this year which his contract called for to get the first payment. He did all that and then, in his eyes anyway, had the rug pulled out from under him at the last minute when the Braves went in another direction (ANDERS)
I’m sure that’s what he wanted to believe, but early in the previous fall Wren made it very plain that if they resigned Smoltz and/or Glav that it would be in a back up roll, that they were gonna fill their pitching needs first without them. I fail to see how giving the guy the longest chance possible is mistreating him. If they had cut him earlier the uproar would be that they didn’t give him enough of a chance. Getting rid of legends who do not want to go never works out well, just the facts of competitive life.
Lew
August 12th, 2009
6:39 pm
Random-No problem. Quite honestly, I have apologized to two people here on the blog-EFrim and Braveheart-cause I gave them unwarranted grief. You might should have been the thrid (and only other one) for the crap I gave you about a year ago. You’ve got a free shot along with your Wurlitzer-should you chose to claim it.
Logan
August 12th, 2009
6:39 pm
Pitch number 120 was not good for Tim Lincecum. 2-2 in frisco. Top of the ninth.
Pete
August 12th, 2009
6:40 pm
Lew: “Pete-You said I had called you names…..”
NO I did not, so pls dont start lying. Appreciate it….. I said you had called others names, which being behind a computer, is silly and immature.
Roman Gal
August 12th, 2009
6:40 pm
Greg in TN-
I think they normally open an hour before the game. I’m not 100% sure, though. Maybe Shamus knows…
monty
August 12th, 2009
6:40 pm
Worst year for umpiring I can remember! Something needs to be done.
Lew
August 12th, 2009
6:41 pm
Pete-Whatever. Why don”t you just let it ride and determine to not like me or agree with anything I have to say? That way we can scroll past each other’s posts because it’s likely we’ll always consider the other And Idiot. OK? Happy Now?
I’m sorry you’re so misunderstood.
Lew
August 12th, 2009
6:42 pm
Whatever. Brick wall with a missing mortar joint. Likely unfixable.
monty
August 12th, 2009
6:43 pm
Some seem to say that Liebrandt’s performance in the World Series should be overlooked because he helped them get to the series. MAybe you should pitch that line of thinking to RedSox fans reguarding Bill Buckner.
Pete
August 12th, 2009
6:43 pm
Lew: “Pete-You said I had called you names (what are you, 13 that that even matters?).”
Youre the one calling names….but Im the one who’s 13 for mentioning it? lol I got it now for sure…thanks Lew!
Pete
August 12th, 2009
6:45 pm
monty: “Some seem to say that Liebrandt’s performance in the World Series should be overlooked because he helped them get to the series. MAybe you should pitch that line of thinking to RedSox fans reguarding Bill Buckner.”
Glad someone else saw how silly that reasoning is…..thanks Monty
Lew
August 12th, 2009
6:46 pm
Later y’all. I leave the child’s potty training to someone else. I’ve had enough for one night.
Random
August 12th, 2009
6:46 pm
AndyC (August 12th, 2009 4:21 pm): “Smoltz can only go and pitch for a team in playoff contention. If he goes to the Nats or any other team out of the race then I will lose all respect for him. Be a man and retire.”
If he does go to a non-contender this year, I would figure that he’d simply be taking any opportunity to continue his rehab, thereby positioning himself to go to a contender next ST.
Mitchell
August 12th, 2009
6:48 pm
I know our Braves are, to quote Mr. Bradley “en fuego”, but by no means are they to the point where they can lose one of those patented “well, we hit the ball hard but right at people” games.
Or a couple of those patented losses. We’re not there yet. We’re not anywhere yet. Not as long as Kevin f*ing Gregg keeps blowing games to the Phillies.
I think we all know that this team is capable of winning but they’re still just as capable of putting up a zero on the scoreboard on any given night.
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
6:49 pm
The more I think about it, the more sense it makes for Tim Hudson to come back as a short reliever.
Realistically, can we really expect for Hudson to come back and pitch better and go deeper into games than Kawakami right away? If Hudson comes back and is only able to pitch 5 or 6 innings, is it worth that to send Kawakami to the bullpen, where he would rarely pitch? At least as a starter, the Braves would be getting production from Kawakami.
Sending Hudson to pitch in short relief and sending Manny Acosta back to Triple A where he can pitch more often, makes more sense to me. If it was earlier in the season, then I could see giving Hudson some starts to “work the kinks out”. However, I feel it’s too late in the season to do that. Tim Hudson is much more suited (both with his bulldog mentality and with his nasty stuff and control) to pitch in short relief. Kawakami doesnt have the pitching stuff to consistently come in and shut a team down for an inning. He’s more of a grinder.
Now if one of our starters were to suffer an injury, then that of course would change the thought process.
Mid Town Joe
August 12th, 2009
6:50 pm
Just checked Atlanta weather radar loops, and game should be rain free.
Mitchell
August 12th, 2009
6:50 pm
Here’s a question:
When was the last time any of us has gone to a game?
Another pathetic crowd but no reason for the Braves to lose. Just win Braves and maybe people will start to show up… on Saturday’s.
Pete
August 12th, 2009
6:51 pm
Lew: “No I posted to someone else about it. Had nothing whatsoever to do with you.”
BS you were addressing me, as the last paragraph proves.
Lew
August 12th, 2009
5:15 pm
“Pete-Actually, I debated with you though your point was sophomoric at best. All losses count. Wow. Did you come up with that one all by yourself?
You might also notice that Apologist/Johnson and Johnson/etc. was the one I had words for. Maybe you’d like to know why I did? Unfortunately the post he made about my wife last week was deleted so you will have to take my (and Carroll’s) word, because, like the Nameless DBag said, I reported him/her/it. Honestly, I should just give the Nameless Idiot my address just to see if they’ve got the requisite genitals to come get taught some manners. Isn’t it amazing how brave and full of themselves they are when they won’t have to face the person they slurred?
I’ll be more than glad to debate you (when you have something worth debating) any time at all. If, however, you want to talk trash about my wife of 34 years, then the game changes. Got it?”
The word “you” obviously refers to me.
Greg in TN
August 12th, 2009
6:51 pm
Thanks RG! That’s usually the case for most minor league parks. Looking forward to the weekend watching the young’uns.
Random
August 12th, 2009
6:51 pm
CB (August 12th, 2009 4:23 pm): “please try not to catch any of my grammatical mistakes- I am very sensitive. “
No worries, mate.
Typos and grammos are perfectly understandable (even “should of”), and eminently forgivable.
(As well as formatting errors, of which I am the King.)
But I do reserve the right (and the responsibility) to go after all egregious malapropisms, with no holds barred.
Mid Town Joe
August 12th, 2009
6:53 pm
Watched all those fight films from ‘84, and could only feel sad for Donnie Moore. RIP.
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
6:53 pm
Interesting weekend series coming up: Phillies-Braves, Giants-Mets, Rockies-Marlins. Should be interesting to see what happens.
I have no choice but to root for Jeff Francoeur and the Mets this weekend against the Giants.
Bat Masterson
August 12th, 2009
6:54 pm
Greg in TN
August 12th, 2009
4:39 pm
Greg, I watched all 4 of the videos from the 84 Braves V Padres fights. Man that brought back some memories, Horner, a young Murphy, Royster, hell even Brad Kominiski. I ran into Perez at a strip joint in Tampa the year before, crazy dude. Thanks
DP
August 12th, 2009
6:54 pm
Monty and Pete, apparently you missed it but Bill Buckner was back in Fenway in the last year or two and got a long standing ovation.
Real fans of the Braves aren’t going to trash Charlie Leibrandt because he threw a home run ball to a great hitter and they aren’t going to trash Bobby Cox for having Leibrandt in the game. Without Leibrandt the Braves would have been enjoying their offseason instead of playing in the World Series.
Mid Town Joe
August 12th, 2009
6:55 pm
Also remember John McSherry at the ‘84 Fulton County Cage Match, RIP.
Roman Gal
August 12th, 2009
6:55 pm
Greg in TN-
Yeah, that sounds like a fun weekend. I was thinking about taking a road trip up to Chattanooga, but I don’t think my roomies would be real excited about sticking around to see a MiLB game. Oh well…I’ll definitely (hopefully) be going to see Minor’s debut…and I’m hoping Riaan Spanjer-Furstenburg gets promoted before the end of the season.
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
6:56 pm
Mid Town Joe………if you paid close attention to the Craig Nettles at-bat, Donnie Moore actually threw him a pitch that Nettles fouled off. When he gets the ball back from the umpire, he looks towards the Braves dugout (as if someone yelled for him to hit Nettles). The next pitch he plunked Nettles, setting off the last of the bench clearing brawls of the day.
It’s still amazing to see the highlights of that game.
Uh, oh. The Giants shortstop just pulled a Luis Castillo.
Soph
August 12th, 2009
6:57 pm
Little Med and his My Little Pony backpack. I love it.
bravesgrl4life
August 12th, 2009
6:57 pm
AndyC
August 12th, 2009
4:51 pm
That’s what they told my husband. Our house is basically three stories with a partial above-ground basement and two stories above that. Due to the amount of trees around here, the dish is mounted up on the roof corner. It really is quite high. They are supposed to be back tomorrow.
Random
August 12th, 2009
6:58 pm
Nova Scotia Steve (August 12th, 2009 4:25 pm): “Ron Gant is like the black man’s Tim McCarver.
“(No racism or anything intended or involved in that comment either)”
Then why the heckin heck even bring race into it at all???!!!??? Which you did.
The same point could have been made by saying Gant was an OF version of McCarver. Or a ’90s rendition.
Or just say he’s the “new McCarver”:, or “McCarver’s heir apparent” or a “McCarver clone” or etc, etc, etc.
C’MON, people — think for two seconds, okay?
Sheesh.
Mid Town Joe
August 12th, 2009
7:00 pm
Paul L, My brothers and I use to watch a replay of that game every year since 1984. One of my brothers, in Lawrenceville, had a BetaMax recorder, and just happened to tape the entire game. I called him earlier, today, and said that he and a neighbor watched the whole thing last week. (he lives in Wisconsin now)
Mid Town Joe
August 12th, 2009
7:02 pm
Game Time.
Hey Greg, Your boys are playing our boys at 7:30.
http://www.wrall.org
Ex-Brave Fan
August 12th, 2009
7:02 pm
ESPN rumors has Smoltz maybe to Cardinals, though Rangers and Dodgers have interest. John just needs to go home. He does not have it any more. John just has to face it that his career is over, done, toast. We all get old. John has got old, and has a bum arm.
Pete
August 12th, 2009
7:04 pm
Paul Lentz: “The more I think about it, the more sense it makes for Tim Hudson to come back as a short reliever.”
Am in complete agreement, especially early on when he may not have the arm strength, etc. He can build up strength back to a starter that way. I think thats how Smoltz should have been used by Boston, and the results probably would have been much better.
TnBrian
August 12th, 2009
7:05 pm
We will win tonight with ease. I already felt we had a good chance, but now that I just heard the Nats pitcher allowed, what, 6 runs in an inning his last start, I’m 100% sure we win.
Supes
August 12th, 2009
7:06 pm
Paul Lentz,
Why are you so obsessed with making Tim Hudson (the team’s ACE when healthy) a MIDDLE reliever?
You are aware that Tim isn’t going to be brought up until the rosters expand in September, or there about, b/c he’s due to make 3 more rehab starts (after tonight).
Who knows what the need for the Braves will be in September as far as relevant to what to do with Tim Hudson.
You are like a FAX SPAMMER that sends over the same info to people’s fax machines every week, even when it’s not currently RELEVANT. In the process, lots of paper gets wasted.
Tim Hudson will also have to prove to the Braves that he can start once again and be effective so they can decide weather or not to exercise the option year. It’s a no brainer that Huddy will “want this option” exercised, b/c nobody will give him a big contract out right until he can prove he can be a top tier starter in this league again for a full season. (2010 season that is).
So it maybe a mutual option, but the ball is in the Braves “court” so to speak. Hence they need to see him pitch not only in spring training next year, or in simulated games, but in live games (starts since he is a starter Lentz, no matter how many fantasies you may have about him coming in the 7th inning of a game) during the 2009 season (september)
njbraves
August 12th, 2009
7:06 pm
Paul Lentz….seriously, how many posts do you need about Hudson as a reliever?? We get it, you think he should be in the pen…WE GET IT!!!!
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
7:06 pm
RE: egregious malapropisms, eminently forgivable, pop music fluency. thereby.
Excuse me…it I hit a wrong key cause I do it quite often and make typos/spelling errors.
At least I don’t have to go to a dictionary or thesaurus every time I make a post.
Oh and by the way the “commodious” words certainly do not impress me…But if it makes you feel better that’s cool.
Its a Braves baseball blog…please give us all a break…
nolie
August 12th, 2009
7:06 pm
“interesting theory, the sarcasm filter.
if so a whole bunch of us including RHR,Scoots,RG,Randon,Braveheart and even lil’ ol’ moi would almost never be able to post.
Mid Town Joe
August 12th, 2009
7:06 pm
Greg in TN
Just received this website from a nephew:
http://www.gaslampball.com/2009/8/10/984036/1984-padres-brawl-video
in case the YT gets compromised.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
7:07 pm
I wonder if the Braves actually know how to draft a right handed hitter?
Uh…hello? Riaan Spanjer-Furstenburg? Only the greatest RH hitter ever, of course.
Pete
August 12th, 2009
7:08 pm
Ex-Brave Fan: “ESPN rumors has Smoltz maybe to Cardinals, though Rangers and Dodgers have interest.”
If contract can get reworked, I believe John will sign with someone as a short relief/setup guy, and make a positive contribution. But I think it has to be in the National League.
nolie
August 12th, 2009
7:09 pm
but he does have some good insight to the idiosyncrasies of the game. (Mixxo)
sorry, for the most part I just can’t agree with you on that one bro.
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
7:09 pm
Mid Town Joe…………I was 12 years old at the time of the game. I wish I had recorded that game. I remember being shocked by seeing Bob Horner show up I remember Skip Carey saying that earlier in the game Horner was in his street clothes up in the press box. However, once the bench clearings happened earlier in the game, he went to the clubhouse and got into his Braves uniform. Chump Summers ran over to the Braves dugout like he was a mafia hit man. The Chumpster’s plans were interrupted when Bob Horner got in his way.
I would love to see some kind of 25th anniversary “tribute” to that Padres-Braves game, kind of like how ESPN did recently with the Disco Demolition night at Chicago in 1979. Some of the Padres players were challenging the Braves fans by their dugout to a fight. Lot’s of beer flying through the air that day. I still laugh when I see those 2 Braves fans jump into the pile of players where Chump and Horner were falling to the ground.
Vinings Jim
August 12th, 2009
7:10 pm
me too, Nolie
Soph
August 12th, 2009
7:10 pm
Gametime! Let’s do this Braves.
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
7:10 pm
Shout-Outs to Soph, P-Lentz, among Others
I’m getting tuned up and I’m calling for D-lo to go 6 strong even though I think It will be a close game…We win 4-3 but D-Lo will get a No Decision…
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
7:10 pm
nolie–it looked like Kimbrel got his elbow too high a la Zumaya and the like (but probably not that pronounced), but I thought the rest was solid but it looks like you disagree so I’ll go sit in the corner now…
Couch Tater, thanks for that link. Good stuff!
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
7:11 pm
I’m Glad It’s just a 2 game series, because Morgan is really getting on my nerves…!
chris
August 12th, 2009
7:11 pm
morgan kills us
JasonInFL
August 12th, 2009
7:11 pm
man, i hate that gnat Morgan…
Jeff321
August 12th, 2009
7:11 pm
Good throw by McCann!
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
7:12 pm
Nice Throw B-Macc!!!
Vinings Jim
August 12th, 2009
7:12 pm
Nicely done, Mac!
Pete
August 12th, 2009
7:12 pm
Supes: “Paul Lentz,
You are aware that Tim isn’t going to be brought up until the rosters expand in September, or there about, b/c he’s due to make 3 more rehab starts (after tonight).”
Supes, I doubt they wait until Sept. because if you bring him up in Sept., he cannot be on the playoff roster. All playoff rosters are set on Aug. 31….if memory serves me correctly.
Carroll Rogers
August 12th, 2009
7:12 pm
OK, McCann is onto Morgan today…
Soph
August 12th, 2009
7:12 pm
GJ Mac!
He looked safe today too.
Jalb3rt
August 12th, 2009
7:12 pm
YES! F’ You Morgan!
JasonInFL
August 12th, 2009
7:13 pm
good start by d-lowe…
Jeff321
August 12th, 2009
7:13 pm
Ah, the replay shows he was safe.. Still a good throw though.
chris
August 12th, 2009
7:13 pm
lowe still cant find the strike zone
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
7:13 pm
Yee-haw! Great throw, me mann!!
Ms. Rogers–
Yeah!
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
7:13 pm
Wow, We Got another Break…
It’s Karma for us getting screwed so many times on blown calls!
c jonze
August 12th, 2009
7:13 pm
Wow, more blog mojo? McCann got one there.
Maybe he’s getting credit from the ref for not throwing it into center field.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
7:13 pm
COuld be one of those “average” night’s here for Lowe
Mid Town Joe
August 12th, 2009
7:14 pm
Paul L,
I always found it ironic the Nettles ended being a Brave after his Padres years.
JasonInFL
August 12th, 2009
7:14 pm
giants just one it in the bottom of the 10th…
Mid Town Joe
August 12th, 2009
7:15 pm
c-ya all after the game!
Pete
August 12th, 2009
7:15 pm
DP: “Monty and Pete, apparently you missed it but Bill Buckner was back in Fenway in the last year or two and got a long standing ovation.”
I saw it and it was awesome. I (and I believe Monty) was referring to the 10 or so years after that incident, when he couldnt get anywhere near Boston without being threatened.
Bad call costs Nationals a run…I thought all the bad calls went against the Braves?
Mixxo
August 12th, 2009
7:15 pm
Derek’s in trouble. Need a groundball….c’mon!
JasonInFL
August 12th, 2009
7:15 pm
wow…that’s obviously supposed to be “won” it…man, i am losing it…
Jalb3rt
August 12th, 2009
7:16 pm
Here we go… that stupid Zimmerman, and Lowe looks like is going to have a looooooong night…
Soph
August 12th, 2009
7:16 pm
Damn, D-Lowe is off so far. Maybe it’s just the first inning blues. (I hope)
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
7:16 pm
Lowe Gettin Slapped This Inning!!!
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
7:16 pm
What the hell is goin on
Soph
August 12th, 2009
7:17 pm
Uh oh. Not good.
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
7:17 pm
Supes……….the key phrase in your response is “when healthy”. Will Tim Hudson, upon his return, be the Tim Hudson of old? How many pitchers come back “their old selves” IMMEDIATELY upon their return from elbow surgery?
Even when the rosters expand, I just dont see Bobby Cox going with a 6 man rotation. Also, if the Braves are counting on September 1 to bring up additional bullpen help, then we are indeed in trouble. Do we really want Buddy Carlyle facing Ryan Howard with runners on base in the 6th or 7th inning?
Also, I recognize that an injury to one of our starters could come about between now and then. However, barring that, I feel that the GREATER NEED is another strong arm in the bullpen, not another arm in the rotation.
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
August 12th, 2009
7:17 pm
Ok, another one of those odd nights where I’m stuck at work with no contact. Anyone able to give me a little run down of whats happening?
Jeff321
August 12th, 2009
7:17 pm
…And Roach bobbles it.
Jalb3rt
August 12th, 2009
7:17 pm
There it goes…
Mixxo
August 12th, 2009
7:17 pm
This is suckin’
nolie
August 12th, 2009
7:17 pm
Some seem to say that Liebrandt’s performance in the World Series should be overlooked because he helped them get to the series.
what we are saying is that Charlie was a productive pitcher that year, and neither one of the situations being whined about were bad choices for him. If he didn’t start game one he would have had to start game two, and there was no better choice as a reliever in the other game. There is nothing easier -and less realistic-than looking back after the fact and finding to bitch about. Shows no creativity or knowledge, just a dismal need to cast blame. If fans didn’t tie their egos to their teams so much, it would result in a short, mild disappointmen and be over in a day, just like a hangover.
Heath
August 12th, 2009
7:18 pm
Booo
Random
August 12th, 2009
7:18 pm
Louisville brave (August 12th, 2009 5:54 pm): “Who is FJM that passed away?”
FJM, dude!!!
FireJoeMorgan.com — four years worth of biting, sarcastic, uproariously hilarious criticism of lame sports (mainly baseball) writing –it cannot be recommended highly enough. Defunct as of the end of last season.
Check out their Glossary of Terms for a sweet, sweet taste of what they have to offer.
Jeff321
August 12th, 2009
7:18 pm
Nice play by Chipper there.
chris
August 12th, 2009
7:18 pm
not going to be a good day for lowe
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
7:18 pm
Nice scoup by Chipper…needed that
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
7:18 pm
Nice DP
Good Stab Hoss!
Soph
August 12th, 2009
7:18 pm
Way to get outta trouble. Great play Chipper!
Vinings Jim
August 12th, 2009
7:18 pm
Nice play by the over-the-hill third baseman!
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
7:18 pm
Nice play by Chipper and nice turn by Prado.
JasonInFL
August 12th, 2009
7:19 pm
great start by our 15 mill/yr ace…
and no, lentz, i don’t want you to go on one of your annoyingly repetitive diatribes about lowe…or anything else for that matter…
yes, i think his contract is awful…atrocious…a montrosity…
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
7:19 pm
Wow…that coulda been a lot worse…
Jalb3rt
August 12th, 2009
7:19 pm
It would’ve been nicer to have that play one batter earlier…
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
7:20 pm
Supes……..also, I said SHORT RELIEVER (meaning he would help Soriano and Gonzalez pitch the 8th and 9th innings) not middle relief.
You’re just another poster who likes to “exaggerate” and twist what someone says. NEVER have I advocated to turn Hudson into a middle reliever.
What I have said was that if Tim Hudson gets put in the starting rotation, then Kawakami will be the one pitching in middle/long relief. Kawakami does not have the make-up to be a short reliever.
I dont mind you refuting what I have to say. Just dont make up stuff when you do it.
Chris
August 12th, 2009
7:20 pm
Overlooking the Nats is never good.
MattyRoss
August 12th, 2009
7:20 pm
Well that could’ve been one helluva lot worse…if ya can’t score one you ain’t gonna win anyway. Let’s go boys.
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
7:20 pm
That First Inning could be a crucial point in this game especially if its close…The Nats wasted their chance which is good…
Jalb3rt
August 12th, 2009
7:21 pm
Houston up 1-0 top 1st.
nolie
August 12th, 2009
7:22 pm
but I thought the rest was solid but it looks like you disagree so I’ll go sit in the corner now…(STEVE)
don’t read into it something that I didn’t say or mean. I was just interested in what you meant specifically. I thought the same a bit, but it’s a lot easier to be sure if you can run those clips in slo-mo. Find us such a site my man.
UNCBrave
August 12th, 2009
7:22 pm
Lowe looked horrible there…Lucky he only gave uo 1 run..
What’s wrong with McLouth???
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
7:22 pm
Mid Town Joe……….also, if I’m correct, Clarence Jones was a coach on that 1984 Padres team before he became the Braves hitting coach.
Jalb3rt
August 12th, 2009
7:22 pm
How much more time are the Braves waiting to plunk Morgan? I mean seriously…
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
August 12th, 2009
7:23 pm
noilie/chillidog
Braves don’t make the WS in 91 without Aljeandro Pena, either.
And he’s the one that gave up the hit to Larkin in Game 7.
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
7:23 pm
Nice Double by our Team MVP!
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
7:23 pm
Prado! Let’s get him in!
Soph
August 12th, 2009
7:23 pm
My guy, Marteeeeeeeeeen.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
7:24 pm
Paul Lentz, I don’t know why you’re so intent on having Hudson pitch in short relief as control problems are typical for those coming off TJ surgery…and do you really want a late-innings guy that’s liable to walk the ballpark? That usually means a lot of blown leads and “Cox is a moron” (or is it MORON?) rants.
When Hudson comes back we will (and should) go into the rotation.
nolie
August 12th, 2009
7:24 pm
(STEVE)
BTW that was something that nobody even thought about back in my day, and there are polar schools of thought on it today. I’m not sure exactly what I believe about it yet.
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
7:25 pm
JasonInFL…………Lowe gave up one run. Dude isnt going to pitch a shut out. I dont get “riled” up just because our starting pitcher gives up a run. Do you really think that the bum the Nationals have out there is going to shut us out?
Relax a little. Lowe will be fine.
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
August 12th, 2009
7:25 pm
Steve from OH,
Not only do I agree with Hudson going in the rotation, I could see KK getting shut down and put on the DL with “shoulder faigue” as well.
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
August 12th, 2009
7:26 pm
Oh and Paul
We get that you’re happy that FW cut Glavine and Smotlz. You’ve told us that UPTEEN DOZEN frecking times.
Ya know, it really is time for ya to give it a rest.
Heath
August 12th, 2009
7:26 pm
2-0 ’stros.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
7:26 pm
2-0 Houston
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
7:27 pm
but it’s a lot easier to be sure if you can run those clips in slo-mo
Yep. I almost didn’t mention it b/c of that but there were a few clips that I thought it was pretty pronounced…but then again, nobody’s paying me for that analysis so take it with a boulder of salt.
(And I know that’s not what you meant…just a bit of self-deprecation)
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
7:27 pm
Brutal pitch Chipper
Bench Prado
August 12th, 2009
7:27 pm
That near .300 OBP and .700 OPS since the All-Star break everyday from the 2-hole is becoming a bigger drag than Johnson hitting leadoff, Schafer and Francoeur.
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
August 12th, 2009
7:27 pm
Paul Lentz,
Apparently you missed the memo… if the Braves are paying you $15 mil/yr and you’re the ace of the staff, you need to throw perfect games or no hitters every time out….. or that is just what JasonInFL thinks?
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
7:27 pm
Random…
You wanna Raise Me in my saying that Chipper hasn’t been clutch this year…?
Soph
August 12th, 2009
7:28 pm
Argh. So close. Oh well.
Mixxo
August 12th, 2009
7:28 pm
Scheize!
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
August 12th, 2009
7:29 pm
ummm…. is Prado still on 2nd? Is it still 1-0? I’ve gotten more score updates on the Houston score than the Braves….. am I on the right blog?
Pete
August 12th, 2009
7:29 pm
nolie: “what we are saying is that Charlie was a productive pitcher that year, and neither one of the situations being whined about were bad choices for him. If he didn’t start game one he would have had to start game two, and there was no better choice as a reliever in the other game. There is nothing easier -and less realistic-than looking back after the fact and finding to bitch about.”
Nolie dont know if you lived in Atlanta back then, but I can assure you its much more than “looking back.” Most of the media, fans, announcers, etc. questioned that decision at the time……and received no logical reply.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
7:29 pm
5-0 Houston
Heath
August 12th, 2009
7:29 pm
Wow… 5-0 ’stros.
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
7:30 pm
AAAAAAAAA!!!! Why must he always be out number 3???
How many times cann I say tearin’ me apart, breakin’ my heart…
Jalb3rt
August 12th, 2009
7:30 pm
Those two guys, Chipper and McCann… that was the best definition of clutch hitting right there…
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
7:30 pm
Buffalo NY
Inning Over
Heath
August 12th, 2009
7:30 pm
McFann…can you petition Bobby to move Escobar to the 4-hole please?
L. Ron Robinson
August 12th, 2009
7:30 pm
Whatever happened to that guy who always posted “double pits to chesty” on this blog?
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
7:30 pm
Steve from OH…………Hudson has never had a problem with control. I’m not saying that he wont have control issues upon his return. If anything I’m sure that he will come back with some good stuff. The issue with coming back from this kind of injury is stamina, how deep into a game he can get into as a starter.
Look, I have no problem with Tim Hudson coming back as a starter next year (provided the Braves want to pick up his 2010 extension). He will have plenty of time to work on his stamina in the off season. I just have doubts about Hudson being able to pitch like the Tim Hudson of old, as a starter, immediately upon his return.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
7:30 pm
I could see KK getting shut down and put on the DL with “shoulder faigue” as well.
I kinda get that same feeling, man.
nolie–I think the “Nymanites” have a lot of good points, but in my completely unexpert opinion, the elbow thing is a pretty risky move. I can see why some people might not think it’s all that bad, but I completely disagree with those that advocate that type of “scap-loading.”
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
7:31 pm
Heath–
I cann try, but I doubt it’ll work.
Soph–
“Oh well”?
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
August 12th, 2009
7:34 pm
Nova Scotia Steve,
Thanks. It’s frustrating following the game on here when everyone yells a name and thinks that everyone else knows what they are talking about haha.
I’m stuck here for another 30 mins, then I can go home and watch the game for myself….
Supes
August 12th, 2009
7:34 pm
Pete,
It’s quite possible the Braves call up Tim Hudson 1-2 days before that sept. deadline (elligible for playoff rosters), but it’ll be a mere technicality. I don’t think they expect him to start for the big league club until September.
Paul Lentz,
Keep on dreaming…Tim Hudson is NOT a relief pitcher. Thankfully you are not the one making the decisions on who goes where, or you’d have the team’s ace in mop up duty spots
I love it when you try to sound all smart and superior and still come out stupid by repeating yourself over and over again. Keep on…it sure is entertaining!
JasonInFL
August 12th, 2009
7:35 pm
Buffalo NY Braves Fan, don’t worry about what JasonInFL thinks, bro. But, now that you brought it up, you can bet that I certainly think there are better ways to spend $15 mill/yr than on an aging 36 year old pitcher for the next four years…hey, if you, Paul, and other fellow Bravo fans think it’s money well spent, more power to ya. Me, I rather not overpay a #2 starter by about 25%, according to Fangraphs, as if he were a #1 to take up about 16% of our total payroll…just think the money could have been better spent. But, like I said, if you think he is a staff ace…
DP
August 12th, 2009
7:35 pm
Hey Pete, you’ve had a logical reply but you don’t want to hear it. Leibrandt had a good year for the Braves, won 15 games. He was well rested. He wasn’t a situational lefty out of the bullpen, he was used to pitching to righthanded and lefthanded hitters. The 2 best relievers had already gone 2 innings each. Leibrandt could have potentially gone 4 or 5 innings. He started the 11th with no men on base, what he was used to as a starter.
Why don’t you tell us how Cox blew game 7 by having Pena in the game to give up the Series winning hit? Does it only apply to Leibrandt?
Jerry
August 12th, 2009
7:35 pm
nats lead 1-0 after 1 1/2
Vinings Jim
August 12th, 2009
7:35 pm
Good inning, Derek – went out to refresh the mojitos and he had gotten through the inning.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
7:35 pm
Good inning…Lowe’s gunna be alright…I have faith in the guy…
Gone Viral
August 12th, 2009
7:35 pm
Mid Town Joe, thank you so much for posting that Pascual Perez brawl video. I vividly recall playing baseball in my backyard when my older brother yelled at me to come in and watch. The funniest part is that Perez was so thin that the Padres Just. Couldn’t. Hit. Him. It took four guys to pull it off.
Hugh E. Wreckshin
August 12th, 2009
7:35 pm
There is no such thing as clutch hitters.
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
7:36 pm
Yeah, good inning, Lowe.
Too bad we didn’t tie it up in that last freaking inning.
JBoog1285
August 12th, 2009
7:37 pm
Jalb3rt,
Are you really talking about clutch hitting in the FIRST INNING?Against a guy none of these guys have seen before?
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
7:37 pm
The issue with coming back from this kind of injury is stamina, how deep into a game he can get into as a starter.
Uhh, then what are all those rehab starts for?
A lot of pitchers have control problems after TJ, particularly with the breaking ball. I remember Wren talking about it (IIRC, or maybe it was the radio guys) during one of Erik Cordier’s starts for MB. In any case I’ve heard that elsewhere and it makes sense.
Heath
August 12th, 2009
7:37 pm
McFann -
Don’t underestimate yourself. I think you cann persuade him.
bravesgrl4life
August 12th, 2009
7:37 pm
Looks a little bit like last night. Rough beginning but settling down now.
TnBrian
August 12th, 2009
7:37 pm
JasonInFl, I don’t think it was the smartest thing for the Braves to do but even if Lowe declines over the next few years then I think they could flip him into a closer. He’d be an elite one, maybe.
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
August 12th, 2009
7:38 pm
JasonInFL,
I think Lowe was the best pitcher available when they offered him the contract. The Braves did the right thing by signing him rather than giving up the world for Jake Peavy (currently on the DL) or any other pitcher available.
I WOULD rather have Lowe and his $15 mil/yr over JoJo Reyes, Charlie Morton, or any minor league pitcher in their system.
Hugh E. Wreckshin
August 12th, 2009
7:38 pm
There is no such thing as clutch hitters.
Hitting, yes. Hitters, no. Sick of all these BS about somebody being “clutch.” As A’s GM Billy Beane said: “it’s [expletive] luck.”
Roman Gal
August 12th, 2009
7:38 pm
if so a whole bunch of us including RHR,Scoots,RG,Randon,Braveheart and even lil’ ol’ moi would almost never be able to post. nolie
I think he’s hoping that RHR and I won’t post anymore.
Soph
August 12th, 2009
7:38 pm
Loafy Loaf! Yeahhhhh!
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
7:38 pm
LOAF!!!! This Is How We Do It!!!!
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
7:38 pm
Anderson with the professional bomb!
TnBrian
August 12th, 2009
7:38 pm
LOAF!
Vinings Jim
August 12th, 2009
7:38 pm
GA!!!
Mixxo
August 12th, 2009
7:39 pm
LOAF!!!
Jerry
August 12th, 2009
7:39 pm
1-1 on ga homer
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
7:39 pm
Steve in OH…………I can see how Garret is “below average”.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
7:39 pm
I swear, everytime I bash on GA he goes out and does something good…
chris
August 12th, 2009
7:39 pm
yay for GA!!
Heath
August 12th, 2009
7:39 pm
Woo hoo. Professional home run there folks.
Supes
August 12th, 2009
7:39 pm
LOAF!
Attention MLB pitchers…Garret Anderson can STILL turn on a fastball!
LOAF turn on that biatch and watch it fly!
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
7:39 pm
ANDERSON FOR CLEANUP!!
Too bad he didn’t get to bat in the last inning…
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
August 12th, 2009
7:39 pm
Steve from OH,
Bash away my friend.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
7:40 pm
We are hitting this guy hard….Prado, McCann, Escobar, Anderson all hit the ball hard
BravesFanChris24
August 12th, 2009
7:40 pm
LOAF!
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
7:40 pm
God bless you Paul Lentz, I knew you’d come with that (of course, without the corresponding facts).
nolie
August 12th, 2009
7:40 pm
LOAF !!!!
TnBrian
August 12th, 2009
7:41 pm
I’m laughing every time I look at that Morgan kid in CF. Him and that fat dip tucked in his lip just looks funny, not to mention that “I’m so cool” strut he has going. Do people seriously not realize how stupid they look?
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
7:41 pm
Heath–
You tryin’ to rub it in?
If not, thanks…but I highly doubt I could convince Bobby of anything–I’m having a hard time convincing myself of very much right now…
Gone Viral
August 12th, 2009
7:41 pm
“I swear, everytime I bash on GA he goes out and does something good…”
I under the sabermetrician’s dislike of some aspects of his game, but he is the breathing definition of a professional hitter.
BravesFanChris24
August 12th, 2009
7:41 pm
LaRoche!
Soph
August 12th, 2009
7:42 pm
Roachy too! Woo hoo!
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
7:42 pm
C YA….!
There We Go Roachy!!!
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
7:42 pm
Add Laroache to that hitting the ball hard list!
Mixxo
August 12th, 2009
7:42 pm
Roachy!!!!!
TnBrian
August 12th, 2009
7:42 pm
HR derby tonight for the Bravos.
Eric from MO
August 12th, 2009
7:42 pm
Alright lets go Braves!
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
7:42 pm
LaROCHE FOR CLEANUP!!
JasonInFL
August 12th, 2009
7:42 pm
Buffalo, I will agree with you there…I also would have rather have signed Lowe than trade top prospects for Peavy (although, I have to admit I wasn’t hesitant to include Esco at the time…which I since have flip-flopped on!), but personally; I would have rather of not done either…because of the total dollars and length of the contract…that’s all I am saying. I like D-Lowe…and I think he is a good pitcher. I just think it limits us in future years. I would rather have Hudson, Javy, Jair, Tommy, <>, and say a Jason Bay next year…
Vinings Jim
August 12th, 2009
7:42 pm
Why did we trade for Adam?
VaBraveFan
August 12th, 2009
7:42 pm
TEEEEE OFFFFF tonight!!!!
Jalb3rt
August 12th, 2009
7:42 pm
Roachy!!! I called it!!!
Wes
August 12th, 2009
7:42 pm
stammons will not be in to face this whole line up twice.
Jerry
August 12th, 2009
7:42 pm
braves lead 2-1
True Braves Fans
August 12th, 2009
7:42 pm
Take that NATS!
Bat Masterson
August 12th, 2009
7:42 pm
Way to Sleepy, jacked that one
Supes
August 12th, 2009
7:42 pm
Full Extension folks…his name is Adam LaRoache…and he’s your 1st baseman!
A thing of beauty.
Roman Gal
August 12th, 2009
7:42 pm
Steve from OH-
You’re definitely right about Riaan Spanjer-Furstenburg. He’s the definition of amazing.
Hugh E. Wreckshin
August 12th, 2009
7:42 pm
I love how some wait until after a homerun to proclaim Loaf Anderson good.
A .737 OPS corner outfielder just isn’t that special.
As Neyer wrote just yesterday: “Garret Anderson, who’s batting .284 (as usual) but doing (as usual) very little else” end quote.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
7:43 pm
Anderson and LaRoche “talking” in the dug-out…I’m sure that’s an energized conversation.
UNCBrave
August 12th, 2009
7:43 pm
HORRIBLE AB by Diaz
Jalb3rt
August 12th, 2009
7:44 pm
Matt ”I swing at everything” Diaz with the momentum killing K.
Mixxo
August 12th, 2009
7:44 pm
Matty and the rightys……….sheeesh!
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
7:44 pm
Supes……….I “love” how you keep lying about what people say. I never said that Tim Hudson should be a “mop up guy”.
One more time, for a MORON like you, I’ll say………Tim Hudson would be a good option to close a ball game on days when Soriano and Gonzalez arent available, particularly if the Braves need a 2 inning save. Or if some tough right handed hitters are coming up in the 8th inning of a game, then Hudson could come in and pitch the 8th, setting the table for Soriano to close the 9th.
Again, how is being used as an important short reliever anywhere close to being a “mop up bullpen guy”? I guess you arent intelligent enough to see the difference.
Meanwhile, LaRoche has once again shown what a fool Frank Wren is.
Jerry
August 12th, 2009
7:44 pm
Neyer sucks .. just saying
MZ
August 12th, 2009
7:44 pm
GA and Roachy remind me of the turtles in the Internet commercial …
Random
August 12th, 2009
7:45 pm
Well played, Couch Tater</strong, well played.
lee
August 12th, 2009
7:45 pm
hey, guys i am new to the braves blog, usually i am typing away at the thrashers blog, bu i needed a change. wow!! u guys hav a lot of comments! great work guys!!!! wow larochey, great play! lowe, hmmm, hard words to talk about. he is a mixed bag of tricks. kk had a AWESOME LA game!!! he shocked me out of my seat!
Mixxo
August 12th, 2009
7:45 pm
Why isn’t Church playing!!!???
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
7:45 pm
JasoninFL:
I have some concerns about how fangraphs converts wins to dollars. Particularly, the fact that they assume that the cost per win increases linearly, whereas noted (by the blog, at least!) economist JC Bradbury thinks it increases on a curve i.e. teams will pay x dollars for a one win player but more than 4x dollars for a 4 win player (follow? Poorly worded I admit). Now, my knowledge of economics is…um…nonexistant, but it makes sense.
For instance, according to Bradbury, the Yankees will pay more per marginal win than, say, the Pirates because there’s no difference for the Pirates between 72 and 82 wins in terms of making the playoffs, but there may be a huge difference between 92 and 93 wins for the Yankees. So that 11.5MM figure that fangraphs has for D-Lowe may be an underestimate.
And, the season’s not over, and innings pitched goes into that calculation, so if he keeps pitching well down the stretch his overall dollars will go up closer to 15MM too.
UNCBrave
August 12th, 2009
7:46 pm
Mixxo, he is…McLouth isn’t
Heath
August 12th, 2009
7:46 pm
McFann -
Nope…no rubbing. I just thought if anyone could convince Bobby, it would be McCann’s biggest fann.
bravesgrl4life
August 12th, 2009
7:46 pm
Mixxo, Church is playing according to the line up on GameDay.
ChurchMan
August 12th, 2009
7:47 pm
Why isn’t Church playing!!!???
?
he lead off the game for the Braves …..
Mixxo
August 12th, 2009
7:47 pm
My bad. I missed the lineup.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
7:47 pm
Lee
kk had a AWESOME LA game!!! he shocked me out of my seat!
yeah it made me s*it my pants as well
S. Brushel
August 12th, 2009
7:47 pm
“Laid-back players laid off by fans after back-to-back bombs” end quote.
Soph
August 12th, 2009
7:47 pm
lol Riggleman’s reaction yesterday was priceless after that Nats coach got ejected.
Mixxo
August 12th, 2009
7:47 pm
What’s wrong with Nate…..again?
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
7:48 pm
Nice To Keep Morgan off the bases…!
TnBrian
August 12th, 2009
7:48 pm
Nova Scotia, probably went something like this:
GA… “what’d he throw you, dawg”?
AL… “mmmm,(5 second pause) just a breaker”.
GA… “oh”.
AL… “yeah”.
Nova Scotia Steve
August 12th, 2009
7:48 pm
Mixxo
Hammy
Heath
August 12th, 2009
7:48 pm
Mixxo
August 12th, 2009
7:45 pm
Why isn’t Church playing!!!???
huh?
nolie
August 12th, 2009
7:49 pm
When is important too. Granted, you can’t reliably predict it-not that you can really reliably predict any single event- but it sure as hell is important when it happens. Not everything that’s important is quantifiable. And that’s from a 50 year stats enthusiast. So there ! :p
ChurchMan
August 12th, 2009
7:49 pm
Astros up 5-0 early but … since it’s Florida … I won’t look at that as a good thing, right now anyways.
UNCBrave
August 12th, 2009
7:49 pm
Why is Chipper so tight??? Guzman will not bunt
Louisville brave
August 12th, 2009
7:49 pm
daddy likes!!
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
7:49 pm
Another DP…Keep Em Coming!!!
Soph
August 12th, 2009
7:49 pm
Six, Fo’, Three. Gotta love ‘em.
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
7:50 pm
JasonInFL…….if the Braves didnt “over pay” for Lowe, who do you think that Braves would have been able to sign? Oliver Perez? John Garland? Jamie Moyer?
Why dont you go back and see who was available as free agents last year after Sabathia and Burnett signed with the Yankees? If you do, you’ll find that there is a HUGE DROP OFF from Derek Lowe to what garbage was left after the Braves signed him.
So in other words, if the Braves didnt sign Lowe, they get off to even a worse start then we did. I seriously doubt that the Braves would have been comfortable with starting both Jo Jo Reyes and Kris Medlen (the Braves were not going to start Hanson in the rotation no matter what to begin the season).
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
7:50 pm
Gone Viral–overall, the ONLY thing Garret has done well is hit for average. There’ve been a lot of people on base ahead of him (coughChipperandMcCanncough) he’s gotten a lot of RBI simply for that reason. He’s done nothing else of note (again, overall) and is a pretty bad fielder (big consideration) and I think it goes without saying our record would be 1-2 games better with a league-average LF.
And there aren’t too many phrases I hate more than “professional hitter.”
Vinings Jim
August 12th, 2009
7:50 pm
Why isn’t Kotchman playing?
Jerry
August 12th, 2009
7:50 pm
2-1 braves
bottom 3
Mixxo
August 12th, 2009
7:51 pm
Nova Scotia Steve -
Thanks man!
Heath
STFU!
JasonInFL
August 12th, 2009
7:52 pm
Yeah, I follow that Stevo…may not be on my way to being a doctor (medical), but I can comprehend.
And, let’s make it known that I truly hope I am wrong…I really do. But, I don’t think Lowe will be worth 15 mill this year…let alone next year, or the year after, or the year after that. Again, I rather have Hudson, Javy, Jair, Tommy Gun, <>, and 15 mill…
I, too, and no economist. But, I think that many teams will get a much better ROI on money spent than we will on the 60 million spent on D-Lowe.
Random
August 12th, 2009
7:52 pm
Tomahawkin (August 12th, 2009 7:27 pm): “You wanna Raise Me in my saying that Chipper hasn’t been clutch this year…?”
I said my piece, and I stand by it. Read it and weep.
Or refute it, if you can. (Which you can’t.)
WHAT nebulous, IneffaBle, efferVescent Criteria would you proposE by which to measure his clucthi-osity, anyway? SoMething you totally make up?
Lemme know.
Heath
August 12th, 2009
7:52 pm
ChurchMan
August 12th, 2009
7:49 pm
Astros up 5-0 early but … since it’s Florida … I won’t look at that as a good thing, right now anyways.
Is 6-0 ’stros a good thing?… Just kidding.
ChurchMan
August 12th, 2009
7:52 pm
Nats aiming to get a couple of guys into double digits in double plays tonight.
At least Lowe is getting the ground balls to go right to his defense when he puts runners on.
Soph
August 12th, 2009
7:53 pm
That was a pretty nice catch.
Heath
August 12th, 2009
7:53 pm
Mixxo -
What? I didn’t know what you meant. Hence the “Huh?”
S. Brushel
August 12th, 2009
7:53 pm
“Chipper chipper as Braves blow past Nats” end quote.
ChurchMan
August 12th, 2009
7:54 pm
Heath
Is 6-0 ’stros a good thing?… Just kidding.
–
they scored 6 runs in only two innings yesterday, so it’ll have to be more than that. 15 sounds like a good high number.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
7:54 pm
Jason–oh, I just added that because I couldn’t come up with a good way to say it and I thought it was kind of hard to follow the way I said it…
Oh, and they use FIP instead of ERA as their way of valuing his performance, and his FIP is lower than his ERA, so that’s something to consider too…
S. Brushel
August 12th, 2009
7:55 pm
“Options after Lowe low this previous offseason” end quote.
UNCBrave
August 12th, 2009
7:55 pm
Chipper go the freaking other way…
Jalb3rt
August 12th, 2009
7:56 pm
TnBrian
LOL @ 7:48. OMG!
Roman Gal
August 12th, 2009
7:56 pm
Teheran seems to have adjusted to Rome. 7 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 2 K, 0 BB.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
7:56 pm
But, I think that many teams will get a much better ROI on money spent than we will on the 60 million spent on D-Lowe.
I can buy this though. Just like how some of the saber stats say Rios is worth his contract. Yeah, a savvy club might be able to get a better return on that cash but having Lowe has been a big boost to our rotation all year too, and that’s been our strength…
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
7:56 pm
Heath–
Haha, thanks…if nothing else, he’d change it just to get me off his back…
Carroll Rogers
August 12th, 2009
7:56 pm
Zimmerman has a 15-game hitting streak now, and Guzman 17….weren’t kidding about this lineup being hot….
Heath
August 12th, 2009
7:57 pm
ChurchMan
August 12th, 2009
7:54 pm
Heath
Is 6-0 ’stros a good thing?… Just kidding.
–
they scored 6 runs in only two innings yesterday, so it’ll have to be more than that. 15 sounds like a good high number.
You could be on to something…
Supes
August 12th, 2009
7:57 pm
Paul Lentz = OWNED once again…keep on MORON.
Sure is entertaining on a slow night, not much happening in the game yet.
Have tons of time to check out your repeated drivel of postings!
Supes
August 12th, 2009
7:58 pm
UNCBrave,
That’s about as uncomfortable and bad as Chipper has looked this entire season at the dish against a pitcher he’s never faced before. 2 bad at bats…let’s hope he gets this guy figured out next time up.
Heath
August 12th, 2009
7:58 pm
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
7:56 pm
Heath–
Haha, thanks…if nothing else, he’d change it just to get me off his back…
Whatever works!
JasonInFL
August 12th, 2009
7:59 pm
Paul, as with most decisions, you can’t isolate the Lowe signing and study it in a vacuum. Relative to cost, maybe Medlen would have had more value to the Braves. Then, when you factor in what the Braves would have done with that $15 mill…as you say, look back… and see what hitters were signing for…how about Abreau/Dunn for that $15/mill? (and no, I am not a big Dunn fan). We were 8-8 and the first 16 games started by D-Lowe. Relative to current cost and future cost, I just don’t think Lowe was a good decision.
Gone Viral
August 12th, 2009
7:59 pm
“And there aren’t too many phrases I hate more than “professional hitter.””
Sometimes, it applies. Throughout his career, he’s never been a walks guy yet he’s somehow always around .300 by the end of the season. You may not like the term, but there is no other way to describe him. He’s actually rather confounding in his consistency given what we know about elements of luck involved in a hitter putting the ball in play.
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
8:00 pm
I seriously doubt that the Braves will make a run at a Matt Holliday or Jason Bay this winter. I’m sure that Frank Wren is hoping for his opening day 2011 outfield to be Nate McLouth in left, Jordan Schafer in center, and Jason Heyward in right.
Whatever moves he makes this winter, I’m sure will be made with the goal of having that 2011 starting outfield. Giving a long term contract to a free agent outfielder would put a crimp into those plans.
Now if Frank Wren were to turn sour towards Schafer, then I could see him making an adjustment. However, Schafer can run like a deer, has a strong arm for a center fielder. The Braves will give him every chance to win the center field job and show that he can hit MLB pitching. And of course we all know about Heyward.
There will be plenty of “stop gap” outfielders that Frank Wren will be able to choose from to sign to a 1 year contract for the 2010 season.
S. Brushel
August 12th, 2009
8:01 pm
“Young slugger Dunn hitting .278/.405/.570 with 30 bombs. Braves fans on O’Brien blog who said in offseason Francoeur a better option proven dead-wrong” end quote.
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
8:01 pm
Supes = making stuff up = lying = MORON!!!!!!!!!!!
Heath
August 12th, 2009
8:03 pm
Churchman -
Florida has scored 2 runs to make it 6-2. I’m firmly in your camp now. I wanna see 15 runs scored or so for Houston.
bravesgrl4life
August 12th, 2009
8:03 pm
D-Lowe really has to stop throwing so darn many balls.
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
8:04 pm
Heath–
And that would. I cann be annoying if I wanna be…Drive my family crazy sometimes…
…and I know you guys feel it, too.
Louisville brave
August 12th, 2009
8:04 pm
I’d be OK if I never again saw Jordan Shafer in an Atlanta Braves uniform
JasonInFL
August 12th, 2009
8:05 pm
Steve, no problem here…I always enjoy learning…something that I can do from quite a few people on here…and well, that I can’t do from quite a few others…;-)
And I did look at hid FIP of 3.78 coming into tonight…like that stat. Again, my problem stems more from the 16% of our payroll going to a guy that we are paying like a solid #1 for the next four years whose performance I think will decline…and what we could have done with that money. If we were the Sox, Yanks, Cubs, Dodgers, I would mind it as much…but, we still have to be somewhat responsible on how we spend our money…well, the Braves…as much as I would like to be, I guess I am still not yet involved in the spending of Liberty Media’s money.
Supes
August 12th, 2009
8:05 pm
Paul Lentz = Talking out of his a&& = Talking in circles = Contradicting himself = Posting the same stuff over and over and over again = OWNED MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bravesgrl4life
August 12th, 2009
8:06 pm
McFann, is our mann gonna do it tonight?
Roman Gal
August 12th, 2009
8:06 pm
I’d be OK if I never again saw Jordan Shafer in an Atlanta Braves uniform
I didn’t know we ever had a player by that name…
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
8:06 pm
He’s actually rather confounding in his consistency given what we know about elements of luck involved in a hitter putting the ball in play.
That’s a really good point. He’s maintained almost unnaturally steady BABIP, LD, GB and FB rates throughout his career. But the not walking much at all and the lack of good power are big dents in his value. Yeah, he gets a lot of RBI and does the sac fly thing really well and people tend to overlook the former because of the latter, but he’s just not as valuable as someone that does get on base a lot and hit for a lot of power.
P.S.–yes, I am aware that he is playing much better lately. DOB pointed that out to me the other day. But he was absolutely putrid for the first few months he played, and that did account for 40% of his overall PA. There’s a bunch of value you ain’t gettin’ back.
Heath
August 12th, 2009
8:07 pm
McCann hit that one faaaaaaaaar.
Louisville brave
August 12th, 2009
8:07 pm
Loaf!!!
Vinings Jim
August 12th, 2009
8:07 pm
Only a triple and a single to go for GA!
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
8:07 pm
bravesgrl4life–
Doesn’t look like it so far…again…
Hey, GA’s 2-2. Need to get him up with some freakin’ men on base!!
Wes
August 12th, 2009
8:07 pm
i wouldn’t be opposed to starting the year with a McLouth, Anderson/Church/Diaz outfield. Shafer is not a major leaguer. Sorry, Shafer fans….but he’s not. Heyward is still only 20. If he comes up next year, it will be a mid season call up. Anderson would have to sign for cheap again, though.
Heath
August 12th, 2009
8:07 pm
GA gets bumped from the 3-hole and starting hitting again… Cox…you paying attention?
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
8:07 pm
There we go Loaf…! Man, he has been Clowning over the last 2 months!
bravesgrl4life
August 12th, 2009
8:08 pm
Anderson 2 for 2. Having a really good night. Anyone think he’ll hit for the cycle? Just needs a single and a triple now.
Jalb3rt
August 12th, 2009
8:08 pm
No team would be able to intentionally walk Brian McCann right now, he would swing at the first three balls… That guy’s swinging at everything no matter how bad, low, outside, high, inside the pitch is…
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
8:08 pm
Heath–
Yeah, boy! Thought that was gonna be a homer for a minute there…
But no. Robbed again.
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
8:08 pm
JasonInFL…………I feel that the experience that both Hanson and Medlen got from spending time in Triple A earlier this season helped them. There was simply no way that the Braves were going to have both of them starting at the MLB level with seeing them pitch in Triple A first.
Name me one team that had 2 pitchers start the season in the rotation, without having pitched at Triple A, that ended up having a good season?
You seem to FORGET the nightmares that our starting rotation gave us. Frank Wren set out to sign HEALTHY, DURABLE, DECENT, INNING EATERS this past winter. He traded for Vazquez and signed both Lowe and Kawakami.
Actually, the Braves spent less on starting pitching then we did last year (even counting Hudson”s $13 mil this year). What killed the Braves for the first 2 months of the season was KELLY JOHNSON, JEFF FRANCOEUR, and JORDAN SCHAFER. No one could have predicted that all 3 would SUCK A$$ at the plate.
Meanwhile, once again Garret is showing how “below average” he is.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
8:09 pm
As if on cue…
Paul, the same challenge as always…prove it, big guy.
S. Brushel
August 12th, 2009
8:09 pm
“Supes and Paul’s internet argument lame, experts say.”
Vinings Jim
August 12th, 2009
8:10 pm
Heath – GA only hits third with no Chipper, but I also suspect where he hits at this age has little effect on what he does.
CrimeDog
August 12th, 2009
8:10 pm
Enter your comments hereI wish there was some sort of formula to help me figure out why Lentz uses all caps when he does. My mind is boggled…
Kris Medlen's Smoking Hot Girlfriend
August 12th, 2009
8:10 pm
Does anyone remember the last time McFann said something funny or insightful? Dude is either 13, a chick, or a dude-chick. Enough with the smileys.
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
8:10 pm
I got it…BMac’s not gonna break his slump until Joe and Boog break their slump with the trivia Q, right?
JasonInFL
August 12th, 2009
8:11 pm
yes Paul, I agree that our offense hurt us at the beginning of the year. you have to throw Loaf in there as well…at the beginning of the year. i think you are helping me with my point…we had enough pitching, but not enough offense…isn’t that what you basically just typed…and isn’t that what i basically am arguing?
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
8:12 pm
Apparently lil Med’s girlfriend is new here…yes, she is a “chick.”
bravesgrl4life
August 12th, 2009
8:12 pm
Kris Medlen’s Not-So-Smokin’ girlfriend, leave McFann alone. She’s one of our coolest bloggers.
Heath
August 12th, 2009
8:12 pm
Vinings Jim
August 12th, 2009
8:10 pm
Heath – GA only hits third with no Chipper, but I also suspect where he hits at this age has little effect on what he does.
Sarcasm just doesn’t get conveyed very well on the blog…
Wes
August 12th, 2009
8:12 pm
“Does anyone remember the last time McFann said something funny or insightful? Dude is either 13, a chick, or a dude-chick. Enough with the smileys.”
…..says the person with the most mature poster name on the blog
Tim Hudson
August 12th, 2009
8:12 pm
Mr Paul Lentz,
I appreciate the faith and trust you have in me, to come in and pitch the 7th inning when the big league club activates me and places me on the roster, but I’m really more of a starter, plus I also need to prove to the team, the organization, Mr Frank Wren and you that I can handle being a part of the starting rotation for the 2010 season.
Sincerely,
Tim Hudson
Roman Gal
August 12th, 2009
8:13 pm
Dude is either 13, a chick, or a dude-chick.
Noob.
David from Equatorial Guinea
August 12th, 2009
8:13 pm
Fellow Braves fans, just want you all to know there’s an old Braves fan (40 years following the team) following the game via Internet from my apartment located in the middle of a jungle in Equatorial Guinea, West-Central Africa. Right now its 8:14 PM (EST), 1:14 AM local (5-hour difference). The way the Braves are playing, I don’t mind sleep deprivation and going to bed at 2:30 AM on weekdays. GO BRAVES!
Wes
August 12th, 2009
8:13 pm
McFann is my girl. Don’t take any sh*t from prick. By the way, Medlen, thanks for YOUR insightful, baseball filled comment.
Pete
August 12th, 2009
8:14 pm
DP: “Hey Pete, you’ve had a logical reply but you don’t want to hear it. Leibrandt had a good year for the Braves, won 15 games. He was well rested. He wasn’t a situational lefty out of the bullpen, he was used to pitching to righthanded and lefthanded hitters. The 2 best relievers had already gone 2 innings each. Leibrandt could have potentially gone 4 or 5 innings. He started the 11th with no men on base, what he was used to as a starter.”
DP you have me confused with another poster. All my comments about Leibrandt referred to his being named Game 1 starter (which about 90% of fans dont realize) and never mentioned Leibrandt in his relief role.
Vinings Jim
August 12th, 2009
8:14 pm
Heath – sorry – I clearly missed it – very embarrassing given that I’ve suffered similarly over the season.
braveman
August 12th, 2009
8:14 pm
siap…
how many pitches for lowe so far? i know the first inning he threw a lot but since then it has seemed he hasnt had to work all that hard…
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
8:14 pm
D-Lo Dealing after that semi-rough 1st inning…So far that DP in the first inning was the biggest play of the game…!
JasonInFL
August 12th, 2009
8:14 pm
Kris Medlen’s Smoking Hot Girlfriend, move on…
seriously, it astounds me that of all the crap the people type on here, and i mean some of the worst stuff i have seen written on any blog (a few repetitive, useless posters), and some come on here and want to start analyzing/commenting on one of the more insightful, passionate, and pleasant bloggers on here.
get a life…
Jerald Holcombe
August 12th, 2009
8:15 pm
Okay DOB, here’s a chance for you or some other knowledgeable fan to shine. On LaRoche’s pop up in foul territory that Dunn called, Boog said that the infield fly rule was in effect. My belief is that the umpire did not call it because you cannot deek the runners by dropping a foul ball like you could if it were popped up in fair territory. Can anyone shed a little light on what I believe was just Boog talking to be talking.
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
8:15 pm
bravesgrl4life–
Thanks.
Eh, those jerks don’t bother me…just find it rude that they suddenly decided to pick on me when my mann’s in the middle of his worst slump ever.
They would kick a fann when she’s down…
Wes
August 12th, 2009
8:15 pm
Liebrant is actually the answer to a pretty importan NL East trivia question. Anyone know it?
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
8:16 pm
Infield fly is not in effect if the ball lands foul Jerald IIRC.
bravesgrl4life
August 12th, 2009
8:16 pm
Don’t worry, McFann, pretty much everyone on here has your back, little sis.
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
8:16 pm
Eh-heh…thanks, Wes…
Thanks, JasonInFL.
Kris Medlen's Smoking Hot Girlfriend
August 12th, 2009
8:16 pm
Alright, thank God. Thank you for clearing that up.
Original Jon
August 12th, 2009
8:17 pm
2-0 Phillies top 1st
Heath
August 12th, 2009
8:17 pm
McFann -
Don’t worry, just nothing we can do about some of the people on here calling people dumb (or worse) for no good reason. It is supposed to be a blog that unites us for our love of Braves baseball, BBQ, and music…but….
JasonInFL
August 12th, 2009
8:17 pm
and Steve, I know you like other stats, but you have to admit that a WHIP of 1.40 is not very good, yes?
JimD
August 12th, 2009
8:17 pm
Did anyone else notice, that on LaRoche’s foul out to the 1B that the ump invoked the infield fly rule? Further proof these guys don’t know what they are doing. The IFR applies only to fair balls. It was intended to prevent a fielder from intentionally dropping a ball to get a DP or TP. MLB umps have no clue anymore.
UNCBrave
August 12th, 2009
8:17 pm
The NL Central has ZERO pitching….Cubs are starting a former Notre Dame WR for crying out loud
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
8:17 pm
Co-Sign
McFann, Is one of the Fans that has been on this blog since day one…!
If anyone disses her then they are dissin me…!
That one post was uncalled for…!
Supes
August 12th, 2009
8:17 pm
Good quick inning by D-Lowe.
Come on Offense, Pick up some more runs!
VaBraveFan
August 12th, 2009
8:17 pm
yeah leave McFann alone!
Heath
August 12th, 2009
8:18 pm
VJ -
Happens… where’s our buddy anyway?
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
8:18 pm
bravesgrl4life–
Thanks. Yeah, I don’t worry about people like that…they can’t hurt me.
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
8:18 pm
Last year, the Braves paid John Smoltz $14 mil, Tom Glavine $8 mil, Mike Hampton $15 mil, Tim Hudson $13 mil, and Jair Jurrjens $390K. That is a total of $51.39 mil.
This year, the Braves are paying Derek Lowe $15 mil, Javier Vazquez $11.5 mil, Tim Hudson $13 mil, Kenshin Kawakami $7.67 mil, Jair Jurrjens $450K, Tom Glavine $1 mil, and Tommy Hanson $400K. That’s a total of $49 mil.
If you take out Hudson’s wasted $13 mil, then we are paying $36 mil for EXCELLENT starting pitching this year. Last year we paid over $51 mil for GARBAGE starting pitching.
VaBraveFan
August 12th, 2009
8:18 pm
I dont think Garret can get the triple, he would have to have a good bounce in the corner
DirtyYuni
August 12th, 2009
8:19 pm
McFann…
Your rally turtles, double n’s, screename, love for B Mac…they’re all quite awesome, really.
I think Kris Medlen’s Smoking Hot Girlfriend is just jealous her man isn’t an all star or have a big contract yet.
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
8:19 pm
Funky-Buttlovin…!
Zimmerman made that look easy!
Gone Viral
August 12th, 2009
8:19 pm
“but he’s just not as valuable as someone that does get on base a lot and hit for a lot of power.”
I think you’re blurring a couple of discussions at once here. I’m an OBP/OPS guy. I completely agree with the thought that he’s only had a couple of seasons where he was superlative in terms of overall production. That’s a side conversation to the fact that he has a remarkable ability to hit at a certain level each and every season, even moreso when we factor in how streaky he is. In terms of what he’s given the Braves, I’m quite satisfied, though. There were better options on the market, but we couldn’t afford them. So, what he gives us is enough for me.
CrimeDog
August 12th, 2009
8:19 pm
Jerald-
Usually, an umpire well yell “infield fly, if fair,” in that situation. That way, the runners know the rule is in effect, but the fielder knows that it’s only in effect if the ball is in fair territory.
Vinings Jim
August 12th, 2009
8:19 pm
Heath – our buddy is just being quiet this evening
JasonInFL
August 12th, 2009
8:19 pm
paul, are you making a point?
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
8:21 pm
Heath–
Yeah, best thing to do is just ignore them.
Thanks, Tomahawkin, VaBravesFan. I haven’t quite been here since day one–this is my second season. Started November, 2007…
OK, back to the game…
Wes
August 12th, 2009
8:21 pm
don’t u EH HEH me!!!!! lol
Heath
August 12th, 2009
8:21 pm
It’ll be interesting to see how Pedro performs….about to deliver his first pitch (in about 2 minutes).
Here’s to hit party for the Cubbies!!!
bravesgrl4life
August 12th, 2009
8:21 pm
This game has turned into a pitcher’s duel.
Wes
August 12th, 2009
8:21 pm
JimD – he called IFF….but pointed toward fair territory, meaning if its fair its an IFF
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
8:22 pm
Haha, thanks, DirtyYuni.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
8:22 pm
Jason–it’s pretty much exactly average (league average WHIP is 1.39). If you’re going to talk stats that account for (directly or indirectly) batting average, you’ve gotta take into account BABIP. Lowe walks fewer batters per nine than the league but his BABIP is above average for a pitcher (generally not something that a pitcher is said to have control over) so this inflates his WHIP a bit, but I’d be remiss if I didn’t note that it’s not exorbitantly high. Still, it is what it is and yes, not good considering his contract, but you would expect it to be lower in the future with average luck.
Wes
August 12th, 2009
8:22 pm
Blum drops a pop up. Marlins 2 on, no one out.
Jerald Holcombe
August 12th, 2009
8:22 pm
Thanks Steve, I thought that was the case. Now, I would actually like to know if the umpire did call infield fly. I kinda doubt it. I’m also amazed that Simpson didn’t tell Boog during the commercial break so that he could come back to live action riggle free of his mistake.
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
8:22 pm
JasonInFL …………the point is that Frank Wren wanted to make extra sure that our starting pitching wasnt going to be a weakness this year. He didnt budget that much to improve the offense this past winter because he expected MUCH MORE from Francoeur, Kelly and Schafer.
However, when it became apparent that neither of those 3 were going to help us much this year, Frank Wren went about to make changes. He started with the McLouth trade, got Bobby to finally start Prado, and with the Francoeur trade. All 3 changes were made without adding much to the Braves payroll.
cabravesfan
August 12th, 2009
8:23 pm
VJ/ Heath-
Evening gentlemen
Yup- just taking it easy tonight- don’t feel the need to post much but I’m around. Always nice to see my guy Garret get one out 
Original Jon
August 12th, 2009
8:23 pm
Isnt this the same guy we hit 2 homers off of in the 2nd inning? Now all the sudden he is Cy Fricking Young
Wes
August 12th, 2009
8:23 pm
Loaded…..
Supes
August 12th, 2009
8:23 pm
paul, are you making a point?
***********
You see, that’s the beauty behind those “type of posts”….they have no point but they sure are entertaining!
nolie
August 12th, 2009
8:24 pm
ll my comments about Leibrandt referred to his being named Game 1 starter (which about 90% of fans dont realize) and never mentioned Leibrandt in his relief role. (Pete)
so if he didn’t start game one he woulda started game 2. so what? a lot of hot air about nothing, certainly nothing provable. just your opinion against someone elses. 17 years is a long time to still fixated on it.
cabravesfan
August 12th, 2009
8:24 pm
Oh, and Kris Medlen’s Crazy Girlfriend-
What is wrong with smiley faces?
(sorry all…couldn’t resist
)
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
8:25 pm
Tim Hudson………I’m not interested in giving you “welfare pitching starts” in order to give you a chance to “prove” that you are worth your 2010 option. I am more INTERESTED in seeing the Braves put the best team out there. And if that means using your A$$ in the bullpen to short up our short relief corps……..then that is where your A$$ will pitch. If someone gets hurt in the starting rotation, then yes I’ll give your begging A$$ a start. Until then, it’s the bullpen for you.
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
8:25 pm
McFann
When I meant “Day one” I meant from the start of the season. I know that you were on here beyond that…
You know as well as I do that this blog was full after the first 2 games of the season. All those Frontrunning fans were on this blog like crazy, And If the braves get hot within the next 4 weeks they will be back.
The Bird and Indian
August 12th, 2009
8:25 pm
UNCBrave: Rich Harden, Carlos Zambrano, Roy Oswalt, Wandy Rodriguez, Chris Carpenter, Adam Wainwright, Yovani Gallardo, Zach Duke, and Edison Volquez (when healthy). Come on now.
bravesgrl4life
August 12th, 2009
8:25 pm
Notice Kris’ non-girlfriend has disappeared?
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
8:25 pm
cabravesfan–
fastasballs
August 12th, 2009
8:25 pm
Geez……….. the Braves should be clobbering this guy right now. Way too many impatient at bats tonight by the Braves. Loaf has done well by waiting for Stammen to screw up & it’s paid off. They easily should have some more runs if the rest of the team would quit swinging for the fence every pitch.
Mixxo
August 12th, 2009
8:26 pm
Can’t keep this guy off base can we?
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
8:26 pm
Uh, in case some of you dont get my 8:25pm posting, I was just having fun with the person who posted as “Tim Hudson” during their 8:12pm posting.
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
8:26 pm
Nice DP!!!
Lovely!!!
Gone Viral
August 12th, 2009
8:26 pm
“paul, are you making a point?”
It’s bad when high priced pitchers hurt their arms.
I think we should all write that down.
RHR
August 12th, 2009
8:26 pm
nolie
August 12th, 2009
8:26 pm
and Steve, I know you like other stats, but you have to admit that a WHIP of 1.40 is not very good, yes? (Jason)
I like WHIP, and 1.40 ain’t so good.
Wes
August 12th, 2009
8:26 pm
uggla down swinging
Heath
August 12th, 2009
8:27 pm
A couple of timely DPs tonight.
bravesgrl4life
August 12th, 2009
8:27 pm
Well, at least Nyjer didn’t steal
fastasballs
August 12th, 2009
8:27 pm
That was a gift. If Guzeman had taken a few Morgan would be standing on second base right now.
Anonymous Caller
August 12th, 2009
8:27 pm
JEsus! i hate nyger Morgan!..its like a little mosquito wandering around you..
Wes
August 12th, 2009
8:27 pm
blum drops a ball then makes THAT play. saved a couple runs. 1 in. 6-3. 2 down
Who Knew
August 12th, 2009
8:28 pm
I’m just sittin here wondering what the ol Bravos are gunna do when Hudson comes back….
hmmm, I wonder if someone could maybe write a 20 paragraph post on what will happen with him, just cuzz I’m curious…
Jerald Holcombe
August 12th, 2009
8:28 pm
I would love to be able to go back in time just to see what the front office would have ultimately done had they not signed Derek Lowe for $45mil. Maybe we could have gotten 1 or 2 really good offensive players that would’ve helped this team. I know…shoulda, woulda, coulda.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
8:29 pm
That’s a side conversation to the fact that he has a remarkable ability to hit at a certain level each and every season,
Yeah, I did get a bit overzealous in my response didn’t I? That was a very good point you brought up.
I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that for 2.5 mill he’s been worthwhile, especially given his recent “Clowning” (h/t: T-hawkin’), and it’s certainly an argument of far lesser implication than the one with Derek Lowe, so it’s really not that big of a deal if he’s not worth it in terms of finances (but not on-field production). I would point out that fangraphs doesn’t think he’s worth any money whatsoever, but that’s probably an undershoot given his good performance of late (as much as I hate to say it as I’m not a fan of cherry-picking stats).
RHR
August 12th, 2009
8:29 pm
Does anyone remember the last time McFann said something funny or insightful? Dude is either 13, a chick, or a dude-chick. Enough with the smileys.
Ho sit down. You just mad.
The Bird and Indian
August 12th, 2009
8:30 pm
Come on everybody, why are you getting at Paul for that post? That was actually pretty interesting about the payroll for the pitching.
fastasballs
August 12th, 2009
8:30 pm
Lowe should have enough gas to get through the 8th. He’s pitching very well tonight.
CrimeDog
August 12th, 2009
8:31 pm
Drill wins the tool race by about eight saw-lengths…
Kris Medlen's Smoking Hot Girlfriend
August 12th, 2009
8:31 pm
No, I’m here. Funny that everyone will stick up for inane, no substance girl-posters like macho big brothers but rip each other to shreds over the dumbest stuff.
Supes
August 12th, 2009
8:31 pm
I forgot to add…also very entertaining and highly not necessary updates that Paul Lentz provides for his fantasy baseball team…here on the blog. Like SOMEONE fraking cares.
I play fantasy baseball, but I don’t see the need to update what I’ve done and how my team is doing.
But hey…that’s PAUL LENTZ postings for you…often have no point but highly entertaining!
Wes
August 12th, 2009
8:31 pm
Francoeur walked TWICE today??? That’s more than he did as a Brave since ‘06
ernesto
August 12th, 2009
8:31 pm
After listening to a bunch of other teams announcers I’ve got to put Joe Simpson in the bottom half, maybe bottom quarter.
He’s just not that interesting. Or amusing. Or personable.
I like Boog though.
Who Knew
August 12th, 2009
8:31 pm
chipper, yard…
The Bird and Indian
August 12th, 2009
8:32 pm
UNCBrave: Rich Harden, Carlos Zambrano, Roy Oswalt, Wandy Rodriguez, Chris Carpenter, Adam Wainwright, Yovani Gallardo, Zach Duke, and Edison Volquez (when healthy). Come on now!
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
8:32 pm
JasonInFL…………Derek Lowe has pitched terrible tonight. He’s already had to throw 77 pitches to only get through 6 innings. He’s throwing way too many pitches. I cant believe that he’s given up 1 run. Take his A$$ out. He’s overpaid. We should have taken him out of the game in the 1st inning.
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
8:32 pm
Tomahawkin–
Sorry! I thought you meant day one of the Blog, like, when DOB first started it how ever many years ago.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
bravesgrl4life–
Yeah! No steal!
bravesgrl4life
August 12th, 2009
8:33 pm
Are we leaving it all up to GA and ALaR tonight?
AndyC
August 12th, 2009
8:33 pm
The blog unites to defend McFann. It brings a tear to my eye.
I mean seriously, if there is one person on this blog that is completely off limits it’s McFann.
ernesto
August 12th, 2009
8:33 pm
Loaf is seeing it pretty well tonight.
The Bird and Indian
August 12th, 2009
8:34 pm
I don’t see how you can rip McFann. What has she ever done to be hated on? I find her posts fun to read.
UNCBrave
August 12th, 2009
8:34 pm
We need 4 runs to win this game IMO…
Roman Gal
August 12th, 2009
8:34 pm
I think Kris Medlen’s Girlfriend is Random.
PWHjort
August 12th, 2009
8:34 pm
Cubs are starting a former Notre Dame WR for crying out loud
Forgive me if I don’t see how that’s relevant. To anything.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
8:35 pm
Wow Paul, you really can go ad hominem at will without acknowledging that JasoninFL makes some good points or supporting what you say with hard facts. And this is coming from a blogger that was pro-D-Lowe in the offseason.
Wes
August 12th, 2009
8:35 pm
ernesto- no. Agree about Simpson. But Boog is a boob. He knows nothing of the game of baseball. Absolutely nothing. He’s more concerned with what the peanut guy in the RF Bleechers is doing rather than anything on the field.
Heath
August 12th, 2009
8:35 pm
McFann -
Speaking of when DOB started the blog….
I first got on the blog several years ago and read quite a bit but very rarely posted. I then went on to go a few years where I didn’t visit…do you know when he started the blog? I am trying to remember when I even first got on.
Original Jon
August 12th, 2009
8:35 pm
The longer we go without scoring more runs the more nervous I get. I cant get comfortable unless we have a 5 run lead.
RHR
August 12th, 2009
8:35 pm
No, I’m here. Funny that everyone will stick up for inane, no substance girl-posters like macho big brothers but rip each other to shreds over the dumbest stuff.
I’m having trouble finding a post of substance by you, ‘Kris Medlen’s Smoking Hot Girlfriend’ … can you help me out? Or are you having too much fun picking on a teenage girl?
Soph
August 12th, 2009
8:35 pm
Girl-posters? So, we’re gonna go through this again, huh?
MZ
August 12th, 2009
8:35 pm
PLEA TO ASTROS: PUT FISH AWAY!!!
Wes
August 12th, 2009
8:35 pm
Well, Andy……she IS a McCann fan……
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
8:36 pm
Man I’m tired of the secondary shift against B-Macc…
The Phillies will employ that as well…
I think that so far the shift has cost B-Macc at least 10 hits this year…
RHR
August 12th, 2009
8:36 pm
Doubt it, RG. Random likes McFann, its me you and cabraves he thinks are destroying the blog lol.
cabravesfan
August 12th, 2009
8:36 pm
Kris Medlen’s Smoking Hot Girlfriend -
You bitch about “inane, no substance girl-posters” yet you have added nothing to the blog except jackass comments about someone that is insightful, fun and extremely well liked. Grow up or post something that you consider worthwhile…or just go away.
fastasballs
August 12th, 2009
8:37 pm
I wish Bobby would slide McCann down in the order until he gets it together.
The Bird and Indian
August 12th, 2009
8:37 pm
Roman Gal: I wouldn’t be surprised at all.
Roman Gal
August 12th, 2009
8:37 pm
Girl-posters? So, we’re gonna go through this again, huh?
Let’s hope not…
Wes
August 12th, 2009
8:37 pm
now the ‘Stros have them loaded with no one out
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
8:37 pm
Heath
I think D.O.B. Started the blog in June of 2005…? But don’t Quote me on that….
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
8:37 pm
Random likes McFann, its me you and cabraves he thinks are destroying the blog lol.
I really enjoy Random’s stuff but he sure did leave me scratching my head on that one…
RHR
August 12th, 2009
8:37 pm
Speaking of girl posters…
I don’t have my own but I’m in the front row on all of Chipper’s.
bravesgrl4life
August 12th, 2009
8:37 pm
Soph, this blog wouldn’t be much fun without us girls, now would it?
VaBraveFan
August 12th, 2009
8:37 pm
McFann never says anything negative, and always has enjoyable to read posts. No reason to hate
blazon
August 12th, 2009
8:38 pm
what is a dude girl? define please
tampabrave
August 12th, 2009
8:38 pm
Paul Lentz…77 through 6 is not a bad pitch count at all. thats about 13 pitches an inning…an ideal pitch count for going deep into games.
Roman Gal
August 12th, 2009
8:38 pm
its me you and cabraves he thinks are destroying the blog lol. RHR
Aren’t we, though?
Kris Medlen's Smoking Hot Girlfriend
August 12th, 2009
8:39 pm
A teenage girl with an excellent command of HTML, I’ll give you that. For the most part this blog is full of whiny fair-weather fans. I get on occasionally when I feel the need for frustration.
Hakuna Matata
August 12th, 2009
8:39 pm
I guess we’re gonna win 2-1 or we’re going to lose.
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
8:39 pm
The camera man must have been smoking some crack on that hit by Dukes.
UNCBrave
August 12th, 2009
8:39 pm
WTF was that??
JimD
August 12th, 2009
8:40 pm
Lentz, 77 pitches in 6 innings is not that bad. That is a tick less than 13/inn. If he kept that pace he would throw a complete game @ 117; 8 innings @ 104.
RHR
August 12th, 2009
8:40 pm
lmao yeah this is the second time i’ve seen you on here all season. fair weather fans indeed.
Wes
August 12th, 2009
8:40 pm
wait, did Lentz just complain the Lowe had ALREADY thrown 77 through 6?? You do realize that’s one of the best inning pitch counts by any Brave starter this season, right?
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
8:41 pm
Thanks, guys! Don’t no that I’m worthy of this much backup…I appreciate it.
Huh, BMac’s AB’s are hurting me way more than these people’s posts ever will.
Heath–
Not sure when he first started it…thinks it’s 3-4 years old, but I’m not sure…
VaBravesFan McFann never says anything negative…
BMac’s gonna bring it out of me, soon, though…if he hasn’t already…
UNCBrave
August 12th, 2009
8:41 pm
Church and Diaz didn’t even run after that hard
Soph
August 12th, 2009
8:41 pm
Nope, bravesgrl4life. I like to think we keep it pretty interesting around here.
I know RHR & cab definitely make it interesting.
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
8:41 pm
tampabrave…………I was kidding with my “rip” on Lowe throwing 77 pitches through 6 innings. That was directed at Jason in Florida.
Do you really think I’m going to rip a guy who has given up 1 run in 6 innings?
RHR
August 12th, 2009
8:42 pm
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
8:42 pm
Soph I like to think we keep it pretty interesting around here.
We do.
Vinings Jim
August 12th, 2009
8:42 pm
Kris Medlen’s Smoking Hot Girlfriend – in the right light, you look a lot like… well, better not to say because you would probably like it
ernesto
August 12th, 2009
8:42 pm
DAMN!
Soph
August 12th, 2009
8:42 pm
Dammit. Just a tad late.
bravesgrl4life
August 12th, 2009
8:42 pm
a coaching visit to the mound and the next pitch brings in a run. WTF???
Jalb3rt
August 12th, 2009
8:43 pm
Ronnie Belliard… a .222 hitter…
Wes
August 12th, 2009
8:43 pm
9-3 houston
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
8:43 pm
Crud…
VaBraveFan
August 12th, 2009
8:43 pm
Our bats need to wake up………
RHR
August 12th, 2009
8:43 pm
UNCBrave – it sure didn’t look like it, did it? I couldn’t tell because the camera didn’t even show where the ball was going until it bounced off the wall but they looked like they were just casually jogging to the ball.
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
8:43 pm
This Is Not Good…!
I told everyone on here in an earlier post that I was banking on this game being close and that D-Lo was gonna get a No decision…
Supes
August 12th, 2009
8:43 pm
McFann,
When is your boy McCann going to learn HOW to block the PLATE when a runner is trying to score and he’s waiting on the throw to get there? Brian is ALWAYS up towards the 1st base line instead of blocking the dish.
Original Jon
August 12th, 2009
8:44 pm
I knew it, I fricking knew it. I told you we needed more runs.
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
8:44 pm
Wes………….I guess that from here on out, I’m going to have to put into parentheses at the end of a posting that I was just kidding. I guess that you missed out on my postings earlier supporting Lowe.
Again, do you really think that I’m going to “rip” a guy who had only given up 1 freaking run through 6 innings?
Heath
August 12th, 2009
8:44 pm
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
8:37 pm
Heath
I think D.O.B. Started the blog in June of 2005…? But don’t Quote me on that…
Close enough… Didn’t we have to register back then? I think the ‘05 -’06 timeframe sounds about right. I was traveling a lot back then and I was looking for Braves news while I was out of town or out of the country. I only visited the blog for about 5-6 months whenever it was…. Just really started reading/posting about 6 months ago again.
PWHjort
August 12th, 2009
8:44 pm
Kris Medlen has a girlfriend? And she posts on this blog? And she identifies herself with her handle? And she claims to be “Smoking Hot” in her identification? This is a big development.
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
8:44 pm
Supes–
I didn’t see the play.
RHR
August 12th, 2009
8:45 pm
OH MY LORD
Mixxo
August 12th, 2009
8:45 pm
Couldn’t close the deal with two out.
Oh well, looks like a split then.
Rob from SC
August 12th, 2009
8:45 pm
GO get Lowe
cabravesfan
August 12th, 2009
8:45 pm
Kris Medlen’s Smoking Hot Girlfriend-
Try using your hand for something other than typing- that might help the frustration a bit…
tampabrave
August 12th, 2009
8:45 pm
Well there goes the good pitch count….and the lead…
Original Jon
August 12th, 2009
8:45 pm
Looks like Derek was left in 1 batter too long again.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
8:45 pm
This degenerated quickly…
Jalb3rt
August 12th, 2009
8:45 pm
Stupid Lowe… This is the ball game right here. MORGAN with the bases loaded!
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
8:45 pm
RHR SOPH McFann ….?
The Blog Kicks Ass When Chicks have the Blog On Deck…!
Gone Viral
August 12th, 2009
8:46 pm
“Ronnie Belliard… a .222 hitter…”
It’s not like he scorched that ball or anything. He was a soft grounder that found a hole.
RHR
August 12th, 2009
8:46 pm
Can we get MFIKY to run out and slap DLowe upside the head real quick?
Rob from SC
August 12th, 2009
8:46 pm
Where is Cox
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
8:46 pm
D-Lo
Come On!!!
Rob from SC
August 12th, 2009
8:46 pm
He can’t find the plate
Original Jon
August 12th, 2009
8:46 pm
Why the HELL is he still in there????? WHy isnt there a lefty in to face Morgan?????????????
Heath
August 12th, 2009
8:46 pm
Well, at least it is 12-3 ’stros.
Chris
August 12th, 2009
8:47 pm
What! They are letting him pitch to Morgan, wow!
How come Cox didn't go get Lowe?
August 12th, 2009
8:47 pm
Answer: Because he’s Donk.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
8:47 pm
Can we get MFIKY to run out and slap DLowe upside the head real quick?
An excellent idea! And they say you don’t contribute…
Soph
August 12th, 2009
8:47 pm
Come on D-Lowe. Get him right here!
Jerry
August 12th, 2009
8:47 pm
If you get on here enough its easy to see whos post are informative or enjoyable to read. You dont have to read the others. I dont understand some peoples complaints. I dont post much but hell its my computer
RHR
August 12th, 2009
8:47 pm
WHEW!
DirtyYuni
August 12th, 2009
8:47 pm
Way to get out of it D-Lowe.
Wes
August 12th, 2009
8:47 pm
lets go fellas, get it back
Mixxo
August 12th, 2009
8:47 pm
Runs!!!
Soph
August 12th, 2009
8:47 pm
Yay! Not bad, not bad – we’ll take it.
Vinings Jim
August 12th, 2009
8:47 pm
cabravesfan – you would kill me for somehing that awful – don’t make me come after you (I hate you, sometimes
)
Rob from SC
August 12th, 2009
8:47 pm
Good game Lowe.
Lets score some runs
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
8:48 pm
Whew!!!
Offense Come On!!!
2 Solo Homers and nothing else so far…
Supes
August 12th, 2009
8:48 pm
OK…2-2…Braves offense needs to step up and pick up D-Lowe next half inning.
At least Morgan didn’t get on base again….that guy is a pest!
Wes
August 12th, 2009
8:48 pm
12-3 astros
Ashley
August 12th, 2009
8:48 pm
At least we’re out of the inning now.
Original Jon
August 12th, 2009
8:48 pm
And all that crap started with 2 outs.
Chris
August 12th, 2009
8:48 pm
Dumb move regardless.
Gone Viral
August 12th, 2009
8:48 pm
“Why the HELL is he still in there????? WHy isnt there a lefty in to face Morgan?????????????”
…
John Hiatt wants you to have a little faith.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
8:48 pm
Answer: Because he’s Donk
Real answer–because he thought D-Lowe could get him out. Was he wrong?
(P.S.–Hi, Robert!)
fastasballs
August 12th, 2009
8:48 pm
Well Stammen is out so maybe everybody except Loaf will stop over swinging. They should have smoked that guy for at least 4-5 runs.
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
8:49 pm
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. Nice going Lowe. 2 runs in 7 innings isnt bad. We just need the offense to pick it up some right now.
Lowe will be pinch hit for this inning. Greg “8 for 58″ Norton time.
UNCBrave
August 12th, 2009
8:49 pm
Let’s get Lowe a WIN…Should’ve had one at LA and tonight..
VaBraveFan
August 12th, 2009
8:49 pm
I think McCann would be a much better hitter in the 5 or 6 hole. Catching takes a toll and for him to be the behind Chipper getting alot of big Ab’s in tough situations thats alot of pressure. McCann is the best NL hitting catcher but that doesnt mean he’s a cleanup guy. If McCann played any other position he wouldnt be that big of a name. If you know what i mean. He’s a great player but its alot to ask of one player.
Gone Viral
August 12th, 2009
8:49 pm
“This degenerated quickly…”
Did a guy get killed with a trident?
Heath
August 12th, 2009
8:50 pm
Vinings Jim
August 12th, 2009
8:47 pm
cabravesfan – you would kill me for somehing that awful – don’t make me come after you
Me thinks that she needs a whoopin’…. I’ll be over shortly lady!
RHR
August 12th, 2009
8:50 pm
Paging Kelly Johnson…Brooks Conrad? Brooksie? Kelly? Ummmm who was that other guy everyone thought was so great? Oh yeah! Josh Anderson!
UNCBrave
August 12th, 2009
8:50 pm
13-3 Astros
2-0 Phils
Wes
August 12th, 2009
8:50 pm
in absolutely NO way should a pitcher leave a game vs. Washington with a line of 7 innings and 2 runs allowed and NOT leave with a lead. PICK HIM UP BOYS
The Bird and Indian
August 12th, 2009
8:50 pm
There goes Mixxo calling games when they are tied up.
Soph
August 12th, 2009
8:50 pm
Hmmm, I think it’s “seize” the opportunity and not sieze FSS.
Jorge Sosa? Really?
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
8:51 pm
BALLGAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Just kidding). Braves fans who remember him pitching for us know what I’m referring to.
Mixxo
August 12th, 2009
8:51 pm
How can my “bloggin’ girls” post here and dance on the dugout at the same time?
Vinings Jim
August 12th, 2009
8:51 pm
Gone Viral – good Hiatt reference!
ernesto
August 12th, 2009
8:51 pm
A Jorge Sosa sighting, well I’ll be damned.
Seems I remember he’ll give up a long ball every now and then.
UNCBrave
August 12th, 2009
8:51 pm
Can we work the freaking count??
PWHjort
August 12th, 2009
8:51 pm
One of the options on the bottom bar of the mlb.tv viewer is now, “Twitter”. I’m disappointed in humanity.
Nate from NCState
August 12th, 2009
8:51 pm
Has Lowe changed his arm angle? Sorry if this has been talked about already but it looks much lower than usual.
Richie
August 12th, 2009
8:51 pm
Great Game tonite, Lowe!!! you battled against a team that has given you problems this year. Let’s get some runs in to give him a W for that performance tonite!
Wes
August 12th, 2009
8:51 pm
lose one, rochy
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
8:51 pm
GV–Lovin’ the Anchorman reference!
I mean, it really got out of hand fast…
Soph
August 12th, 2009
8:51 pm
There goes Mixxo calling games when they are tied up.
It’s reverse psychology! And, it actually works sometimes.
Original Jon
August 12th, 2009
8:51 pm
I swear I dont understand this first pitch swinging BS. You get 3 pitches before you are out, take a couple, DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cabravesfan
August 12th, 2009
8:51 pm
VJ-
I absoultely would have…but I can say whatever I want
Rush Propst
August 12th, 2009
8:52 pm
SEIZE THE MOMENT!
Neon Deion
August 12th, 2009
8:52 pm
Where McCarver at?
Jalb3rt
August 12th, 2009
8:52 pm
Houston 13-3 now, runners on 2nd and 3rd, top of the 4th… that enough?
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
8:52 pm
VaBravesFan @ 8:49–
I agree 100%.
Hope he gets an AB against Sosa.RHR
August 12th, 2009
8:52 pm
SEE YA!
Wes
August 12th, 2009
8:52 pm
anyone else just hear the PA Guy announce Diaz after strike TWO to Laroche!!!!! ATTA ADAM!!!
Vinings Jim
August 12th, 2009
8:52 pm
cabravesfan – life can be so unfair
ROACHY!!!!!!!
The Bird and Indian
August 12th, 2009
8:52 pm
ROACHYYYYYYYY
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
8:52 pm
C-YA!!!!
There We Go Roachy!!!!
Soph
August 12th, 2009
8:52 pm
Sweeeeeeeet! Go ahead Roachy.
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
8:52 pm
LaROCHE FOR CLEANUP!!
ernesto
August 12th, 2009
8:52 pm
And there’s the Jorge Sosa I know and love (on a another team)
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
8:52 pm
What did I say about BALLGAME? Flashbacks anyone?
Louisville brave
August 12th, 2009
8:52 pm
Nice!!!
DirtyYuni
August 12th, 2009
8:53 pm
ROACHY!!!! Man, that trade’s looking better and better, huh? That was a frickin bomb.
Heath
August 12th, 2009
8:53 pm
PWHjort
August 12th, 2009
8:51 pm
One of the options on the bottom bar of the mlb.tv viewer is now, “Twitter”. I’m disappointed in humanity.
I don’t get all that stuff either…
PWHjort
August 12th, 2009
8:53 pm
Adam LaRoche is good at hitting baseballs a long way.
BravesFanChris24
August 12th, 2009
8:53 pm
Adam EM EFFIN LaRoche!
CrimeDog
August 12th, 2009
8:53 pm
It’s French…for “the roach.”
Gone Viral
August 12th, 2009
8:53 pm
If this were NBA Jam, the announcer would be saying, “BOOMSHAKALAKA!!!”
Chop It Up All-Stars
August 12th, 2009
8:53 pm
Anybody missing Casey Kotchman now?!
Necromancer
August 12th, 2009
8:53 pm
Way to go, ROchy!
Richie
August 12th, 2009
8:53 pm
ROACHY!!!! Big knock, big knock!!!!
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
8:53 pm
Move Roachy To The Cleanup Role NOW!!!
MZ
August 12th, 2009
8:53 pm
pretty good deadline deal, eh?
Heath
August 12th, 2009
8:53 pm
…I demand that we ask Boston to undue that trade!!!
Jalb3rt
August 12th, 2009
8:53 pm
ROACHYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Adam LaRoache
August 12th, 2009
8:53 pm
I will make a winner out of Derek Lowe!
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
8:53 pm
I think that tonight may the night that Greg Norton gets his first homer of the season.
cabravesfan
August 12th, 2009
8:53 pm
Good lord Roachy CRUSHED that!
VJ-
you’re a guy. Deal with it
Anonymous Caller
August 12th, 2009
8:53 pm
LaRoche Sucks.
Supes
August 12th, 2009
8:53 pm
An A-Bomb…from A – Roach!
VaBraveFan
August 12th, 2009
8:54 pm
ROACHY!!!
bravesgrl4life
August 12th, 2009
8:54 pm
So glad to have Roachy back. 2 jacks in one night for the old ADD boy.
BravesFanChris24
August 12th, 2009
8:54 pm
Has it landed yet?
RHR
August 12th, 2009
8:54 pm
Side note: I had no idea Jorge Sosa was still in baseball. Him and his jheri-curl were a pleasant surprise for the Bravos in 05.
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
8:54 pm
Gone Viral…!
“Is It The SHOES?”
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
8:54 pm
Chipper’s gonna get Roachy a nice new semi-automatic for that one!
Heath
August 12th, 2009
8:54 pm
Oh crap!!!! I used a smiley face. I am sure to be called a girl man or a something.
oops…did it again.
oh shoot
The Bird and Indian
August 12th, 2009
8:54 pm
tampabrave, mixxo, Jalb3rt: Good try though.
PWHjort
August 12th, 2009
8:54 pm
GD Victorino just homered. 4-1 Phils.
Hakuna Matata
August 12th, 2009
8:54 pm
I miss Krotchman…come home Casey!.Come Back !
RHR
August 12th, 2009
8:55 pm
Never fear, Kelly is here!
And the new pitcher is a lefty!
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
8:55 pm
No Norton, Kelly’s in to pinch hit.
Wes
August 12th, 2009
8:55 pm
honestly, no one else heard the PA guy announce Diaz after strike 2??? Then Rochy LOSES one
BravesFanChris24
August 12th, 2009
8:55 pm
Riggleman being chicken. KJ has good numbers against Sosa.
Gone Viral
August 12th, 2009
8:56 pm
“Is It The SHOES?”
He’s heating up!
Vinings Jim
August 12th, 2009
8:56 pm
Heath – pull it together, man! Fight the madness!
RHR
August 12th, 2009
8:56 pm
Heath – the only time I like twitter is during and after ball games so I can laugh at what the opposing teams fans are saying.
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
8:56 pm
Heath @ 8:54–
PWHjort
August 12th, 2009
8:56 pm
OK, I don’t know for sure, but I’m pretty sure Bobby is about to pinch-hit for the pinch-hitter. Yes, I know Kelly hits lefties better than righties, but we’ve long been aware of the fact that Bobby doesn’t understand this. So we sort of expect this. I will flip out if he uses Greg Norton.
UNCBrave
August 12th, 2009
8:57 pm
What do you expect the Phillies to do? The Cubs are pitching a COLLEGE WR..
Kris Medlen's Smoking Hot Girlfriend
August 12th, 2009
8:57 pm
Heath, yes, you are a dude-chick now. You must still be using your free AOL hours, too.
PWHjort
August 12th, 2009
8:57 pm
Never mind, looked like he was pulling Kelly back. Kelly will, in fact, hit.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
8:58 pm
I’ve never understood why someone that doesn’t work in the media needed to twitter…
Heath
August 12th, 2009
8:58 pm
VJ / McFann -
Whaaaaaaaaaaaat?
PWHjort
August 12th, 2009
8:58 pm
What do you expect the Phillies to do? The Cubs are pitching a COLLEGE WR..
I’ve made this point before, but what on earth does that have to do with anything?
Gone Viral
August 12th, 2009
8:58 pm
I like Kotchman and I think he’s a solid player on the right team. Having said that, he had 6 homers in 298 at bats for us this year. LaRoche has 3 in 35 at bats.
Jalb3rt
August 12th, 2009
8:58 pm
The Bird and Indian
Never said ”ball game!!”. I just said that was the game situation with Morgan (tough out) at bat on a bases loaded situation….
The Bird and Indian
August 12th, 2009
8:59 pm
UNCBrave: He was a very good WR too. He is also one of their top pitching prospects with a very bright future. What’s your point about him being a college WR? If anything it means he is an extremely good athlete.
Braves fan in Nebraska
August 12th, 2009
8:59 pm
I wonder where all the LaRoche haters are now? (Crickets chirping….) This is why Kotchman was traded. LaRoche has hit more HR since the trade than CK did his entire ATL career.
ernesto
August 12th, 2009
8:59 pm
I just don’t like that bunt call. Takes the possibility of the big inning away – against a team that can put up a big inning.
Rob from SC
August 12th, 2009
8:59 pm
That is one ugly pitching line for Ricky Nolasco
VaBraveFan
August 12th, 2009
8:59 pm
Kelly was digging down the line lol
Mixxo
August 12th, 2009
8:59 pm
The Bird and Indian -
Worked didn’t it?
STFU!
Original Jon
August 12th, 2009
8:59 pm
Why was Kelly brought in to bunt, Lowe could have done that just fine.
Heath
August 12th, 2009
8:59 pm
RHR
August 12th, 2009
8:56 pm
Heath – the only time I like twitter is during and after ball games so I can laugh at what the opposing teams fans are saying.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not hatin’ on it…I just don’t get it. But then again, I’m a girl man using free AOL hours…so, whatta expect?
Wes
August 12th, 2009
9:00 pm
Church is really growin on me. Really wouldn’t mind havin him in RF next season.
tralfaz
August 12th, 2009
9:00 pm
Kris Medlen’s Smoking Hot Girlfriend –Aren’t you the one who gave me the Crotch Crickets, back in Singapore?
Chop It Up All-Stars
August 12th, 2009
9:00 pm
What a sign for the Nationals with that Morgan kid…he can play!!
bravesgrl4life
August 12th, 2009
9:00 pm
guess Chuch got all used up last night, huh?
The Bird and Indian
August 12th, 2009
9:00 pm
Jalb3rt: You’re right. I’m sorry, I misunderstood it. You said this is the ballgame right here, which it very well could have been.
Gone Viral
August 12th, 2009
9:01 pm
Church has crushed the ball three times tonight and has nothing to show for it.
UNCBrave
August 12th, 2009
9:01 pm
The Bird and Indian,
He was an EXCELLENT college WR…but not a ML pitcher is my point…The Phillies struggle with good pitchers but PUNISH weak pitchers…The Phillies would’ve scored 15 runs on STAMMEN tonight
cabravesfan
August 12th, 2009
9:01 pm
Heath/ RHR-
You all are better then me- I joined Twitter simply so I could follow the 49ers OTAs and Training Camp…is that wrong??
Carroll Rogers
August 12th, 2009
9:01 pm
get the tissues out, because attendance tonight is sad: 17,886.
LaRoche is hitting .342 (13-for-38) with three home runs in his 10 games played since he’s been back with the Braves.
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
9:01 pm
The Pirates did two really annoying things this year–they traded Morgan to our Division and Ian Snell to the AL.
Wish it woulda been the other way around…
Uknown Hinson
August 12th, 2009
9:01 pm
Atta boy LaSmooch, gotta hold em
UNCBrave
August 12th, 2009
9:01 pm
13-5 Astros
4-0 Phillies
Gone Viral
August 12th, 2009
9:02 pm
“Church is really growin on me. Really wouldn’t mind havin him in RF next season.”
I fully expect Heyward to replace GA, not the Church/Diaz tandem.
Necromancer
August 12th, 2009
9:02 pm
damn those girls were hot!
The Bird and Indian
August 12th, 2009
9:02 pm
Mixxo: Was that your intention? I just think it would be smart to lay off the ballgame calls. What’s the point of it anyway?
PWHjort
August 12th, 2009
9:02 pm
I’ve never understood why someone that doesn’t work in the media needed to twitter…
It’s very stupid for personal use. The problem is, in 140 characters you don’t have enough room to provide context for anything. It’s like….. “I just went to the store”. What store? Why are you telling me this? Why do I care?
It’s completely useless unless you can truly make a point in 140 characters or less. And usually the only way you can is by providing a URL.
Heath
August 12th, 2009
9:02 pm
Crotch Cricket?
rotflmao
You learn something new every day….
Chris
August 12th, 2009
9:02 pm
Did Morgan just rob Church?
RHR
August 12th, 2009
9:02 pm
And its also good for when like Bowman can update us from his phone before getting back to the press box, like the other day with the lineup changes…but I mean, its rare that something SO EXCITING is happening in the clubhouse that we can’t wait 10 minutes for it lol.
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
9:02 pm
Ms. Rogers–
Sounds like a cleanup hitter to me.
JasonInFL
August 12th, 2009
9:02 pm
“Jason–it’s pretty much exactly average (league average WHIP is 1.39)”
-Steve From OH
I knew you would come back with BABIP! Another good stat! But, pretty much league average is not what I expect for $15/yr!
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
9:02 pm
Petey-Pablo In…
Let’s make this Easy…!
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
9:03 pm
I fully expect Heyward to replace GA, not the Church/Diaz tandem.
If I had a choice, that’s what I’d go with too.
N Nine
August 12th, 2009
9:03 pm
We sure love our McFann. Attacking our beloved lady is like pouring lighter fluid on the blog. Amazing work Denizens.
Anyone miss Kotchy? xP
Vinings Jim
August 12th, 2009
9:03 pm
cabravesfan – back (ha-ha)
The Bird and Indian
August 12th, 2009
9:03 pm
UNCBrave: He was extremely good. He is still young and improving. He is a very mediocre one at this point but I have no doubt that he will be a pretty good pitcher in the future.
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
9:04 pm
NecroMancer…
Co-Sign…
Those Gurls were Banging…!!!
Heath
August 12th, 2009
9:04 pm
cabravesfan -
Again I say, you need a whoopin’. I’m on my way.
RHR
August 12th, 2009
9:04 pm
I don’t post updates on it either, cabraves but i do like it to read what the people i follow have to say, and most of those are media types. or baseball players lol..
Uknown Hinson
August 12th, 2009
9:04 pm
That’s alright Carroll, the phils series this weekend is going to be sold out, and I’ll be 1 of 50,000
Necromancer
August 12th, 2009
9:04 pm
Petey Pab’s kind of plump, isn’t he?
VaBraveFan
August 12th, 2009
9:05 pm
well i’m getting off folks
Cya’s on the next one!
GO BRAVES!!
PWHjort
August 12th, 2009
9:05 pm
Show me one study that even partially-successfully correlates being a college WR and a bad MLB pitcher, and I’ll concede you may have a smidgen of a point. Until then? No.
Where is Gonzo?
August 12th, 2009
9:05 pm
Answer: He is unavilable because his elbow is tender after all of the innings Donk put him through.
Implication: Moylan will give the lead up.
Rob from SC
August 12th, 2009
9:05 pm
THere is no way Heyward plays anywhere but RF. Church and Diaz can play LF.
RHR
August 12th, 2009
9:05 pm
N Nine, if McFann weren’t a kid I would let her handle herself…but she is and I suspect that’s why we’re all so protective of her.
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
9:05 pm
Petey Pabb
Don’t Let Dunn Beat You…!
Rob from SC
August 12th, 2009
9:05 pm
where is gonzalez?
Vinings Jim
August 12th, 2009
9:05 pm
Totally blog unrelated (well, maybe blog too) – I’m and idiot!
Heath
August 12th, 2009
9:06 pm
Chris
August 12th, 2009
9:02 pm
Did Morgan just rob Church?
That’s sure to get some comments…. Here we go…
UNCBrave
August 12th, 2009
9:06 pm
No Gonzolas or O’Flaherty??
Wes
August 12th, 2009
9:06 pm
I think our outfield next year is exactly what it is now, if GA will resign for low cost. Heyward won’t be up at the beginning next year.
Uknown Hinson
August 12th, 2009
9:06 pm
F, don’t start this walkin bs
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
9:06 pm
Jason–yep,for 15MM it’s not good. I didn’t mention that earlier? I meant to, maybe I forgot.
But his career WHIP is around 1.30, which isn’t all that great, and he’s been successful despite that. Sinkerballers are gonna give up some hits and make up for it with DP balls. So with that BABIP a bit high, it’s not a stretch to say that he’s still playing reasonably close to his career level in that area…
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
9:06 pm
I don’t Trust this Nats hot lineup against our bullpen..!
Larry
August 12th, 2009
9:07 pm
moylans walks are gonna cost us a shot at the postseason.
Fire Cox
August 12th, 2009
9:08 pm
Cox has KJ, who kills left-handed pitching, sacrifice bunt the runner to 2nd and let Church, who is worthless against lefties, hit with a RISP.
And he uses a better hitter, KJ, instead so he can keep Greg Norton for a possible crucial spot later in-game?
That is the epitome of FAIL
Down with Donk
August 12th, 2009
9:08 pm
An 85 win team is a 80 win team under Bobby Cox.
chilidog75
August 12th, 2009
9:08 pm
Lucky Dunn didn’t elevate that, or it would be 4-3 right now. That was a meat pitch.
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
9:08 pm
Petey-Pabb!
Come On Baby, Get Tough!
Uknown Hinson
August 12th, 2009
9:08 pm
Oh god
Gone Viral
August 12th, 2009
9:08 pm
“THere is no way Heyward plays anywhere but RF. Church and Diaz can play LF.”
Yeah, I wasn’t talking about player positions but player personnel.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
9:08 pm
For the record, I leave Moylan in to face Willingham…
Heath
August 12th, 2009
9:08 pm
Booooo
Lantekee Jones
August 12th, 2009
9:08 pm
Moylan with another blown save opportunity. Come on, Mate.
Larry
August 12th, 2009
9:09 pm
i hate this. you keep moylan in to try and get the ground ball, but chances are just as good he will get a free pass to first. drives me nuts.
PWHjort
August 12th, 2009
9:09 pm
The bottom of the 7th was very clearly managed by Bobby Cox. With 1 out and a runner on 1st, Bobby brings in a pinch-hitter, Kelly Johnson (who excels at hitting lefties), to face a right-handed pitcher. Riggleman decides, what the heck, we’re down anyway, and brings in a lefty to face the lefty-murdering Kelly Johnson. And Bobby decides to give away an out. Why? DEREK LOW COULD’VE BUNTED.
chris
August 12th, 2009
9:09 pm
i dunno…maybe it’s just me…or maybe this question has been asked….
chris
August 12th, 2009
9:09 pm
i dunno…maybe it’s just me…or maybe this question has been asked….
bravesgrl4life
August 12th, 2009
9:09 pm
has moylan been pulled yet? i’m watching gameday and it’s soooo slow
Billy
August 12th, 2009
9:09 pm
Can someone tell me why Mike Gonzalez isn’t available tonight? Thanks.
PWHjort
August 12th, 2009
9:09 pm
That’d be a LOWE*
Soph
August 12th, 2009
9:09 pm
Damn, damn, damn, damn.
Ok, 2 outs.
chilidog75
August 12th, 2009
9:09 pm
Moylan does not look good, Bobby.
Might want to do something about it. Geez. Two line drive outs, a walk and a roped single.
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
9:09 pm
Come On Petey-Pabb…!
Let’s Get out of this…!
UNCBrave
August 12th, 2009
9:09 pm
Moylan-13 pitches and 8 balls
Cox, he does NOT HAVE IT TONIGHT…Go get him
Kris Medlen's Smoking Hot Girlfriend
August 12th, 2009
9:09 pm
Someone please be serious with me and tell me how old McFann is. It’s not my intention to bash children. Over 16, however, and maybe somebody got hit in the head with a softball bat.
JerseyBraves
August 12th, 2009
9:10 pm
Carroll: I said it last night. The Braves have to be playing the Mets, Cubs, Dodgers, Yankees, or Red Sox to draw a crowd. Remember, 2005 the Braves didn’t sell out ONE playoff game. Sad. Atpathy at its best, and you can’t even blame ticket prices. Maybe if Michael Vick played CF for the Braves they’d get Atlanta fans to care.
You won’t ever see the Mets, Yankees, Red Sox, or even phillies give away a 6 game bundle for as low as $11. I mean, you can’t even get Phillies minor league tickets that cheap.
You say, “oh my god, only 17000 attendance.” I say, what, you expected more? Why?
Soph
August 12th, 2009
9:10 pm
Nope bravesgrl4life. Moylan’s still in.
Jerald Holcombe
August 12th, 2009
9:10 pm
God, I hate our bullpen. I’m amazed how they can’t seem to just close the door on other teams.
chilidog75
August 12th, 2009
9:10 pm
This is scary.
Richie
August 12th, 2009
9:10 pm
Moylan is teetering on the brink of blowing this one
cabravesfan
August 12th, 2009
9:10 pm
Heath-
Was that for my Twitter comment? What is wrong with being an obsessive football fan? Doesn’t everyone join Twitter to follow their team?
RHR-
I refuse to post updates on my page…
chris
August 12th, 2009
9:10 pm
I dunno….maybe it’s me…..or maybe this question has been asked, but…. WHERE IS MIKE GONZALEZ!!!!!!!!!!!?????????
Larry
August 12th, 2009
9:10 pm
that was an excellent pitch. wow.
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
9:10 pm
We are very fortunate so far this inning. Guzman lines out to left, Zimmerman walks, Dunn lines a single to center, and Willingham lines to right.
Moylan hasnt fooled them yet.
Chop It Up All-Stars
August 12th, 2009
9:10 pm
This is a pretty stacked Washington lineup. If they get any pitching next year, they could be dangerous.
Mixxo
August 12th, 2009
9:10 pm
nice slider!
Gone Viral
August 12th, 2009
9:10 pm
Moylan is getting more swinging strikes as the season progresses. That tells me he’s finally 100% again.
RHR
August 12th, 2009
9:10 pm
HUGE.
Larry
August 12th, 2009
9:10 pm
baby pete! well done.
Tomahawkin
August 12th, 2009
9:10 pm
Yeah! Petey Pabb Got Tough!!!
Soph
August 12th, 2009
9:10 pm
Way to go Moylan!
Vinings Jim
August 12th, 2009
9:11 pm
Well done Peter!
Mixxo
August 12th, 2009
9:11 pm
another nice slider!
Whew!
chris
August 12th, 2009
9:11 pm
man, was that scary =/
BravesFanChris24
August 12th, 2009
9:11 pm
Moylan is AWESOME!
RHR
August 12th, 2009
9:11 pm
I’m telling y’all….Dukes and MFIKY are 1st cousins.
PWHjort
August 12th, 2009
9:11 pm
Can someone tell me why Mike Gonzalez isn’t available tonight?
He saw Kris Medlen’s new backpack and pooped his pants he was laughing so hard. Had to go home to change. Isn’t back yet.
Peter Moyland
August 12th, 2009
9:11 pm
Hey Paul Lentz,
How do you like me now mate?
Heath
August 12th, 2009
9:11 pm
Nice!
Greg in TN
August 12th, 2009
9:11 pm
Moylan certainly rallied in that AB versus Dukes. Well done, mate indeed.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
9:11 pm
Over 16, however, and maybe somebody got hit in the head with a softball bat.
Huh? I think that instead, it’s due to two reasons:
A)She’s not hardcore into bashing the team like many here
B)She’s not an @sshole like you
Bye now.
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
9:11 pm
Better late than never. Nice job by Moylan to get Dukes.
Soriano should have favorable match-ups with the bottom of the order coming up in the top of the 9th for the Nationals.
CLE
August 12th, 2009
9:11 pm
Whew! Made me nervous, but at least he got the strikeout to end the inning.
tampabrave
August 12th, 2009
9:11 pm
attaboy petey
Uknown Hinson
August 12th, 2009
9:12 pm
Whew!
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
9:12 pm
Beautiful K!
Thanks, N Nine, RHR!
Richie
August 12th, 2009
9:12 pm
Moylan, you bounced back! Ok hold now let’s get Sori in there, so the Braves can close this out
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
9:12 pm
Moylan sucks. Cut him. Right, Lentz?
bravesgrl4life
August 12th, 2009
9:12 pm
scary is an understatement
Heath
August 12th, 2009
9:12 pm
cabravesfan
August 12th, 2009
9:10 pm
Heath-
Was that for my Twitter comment? What is wrong with being an obsessive football fan? Doesn’t everyone join Twitter to follow their team?
I don’t know anymore…. I’m just set on givin’ you a whoopin’
It's very apparent
August 12th, 2009
9:13 pm
That we will have to go out and look for pen help this offseason.
Would we be comfortable with Peter Moylan, Kris Medlen, Eric O’Flaherty and Manny Acosta as our set-up men for a closer that has yet to be named?
Daybed Wagmoe
August 12th, 2009
9:13 pm
Nice job Moylan! Now go and get some much-needed rest!
MattyRoss
August 12th, 2009
9:13 pm
Wait…why isn’t Pascual Matos playing?
McFann :Ô:
August 12th, 2009
9:13 pm
Thanks, Steve from OH.
The Bird and Indian
August 12th, 2009
9:13 pm
Kris Medlen’s Smoking Hot Girlfriend: What’s wrong with teens? I take offense to that.
RHR
August 12th, 2009
9:14 pm
It’s not my intention to bash children
Then why don’t you stop, your class is showing.
Tomahawk Choppers
August 12th, 2009
9:14 pm
Feels like runs this inning….starts with Prado
Vinings Jim
August 12th, 2009
9:14 pm
Heath – get in line, buddy!
Paul Lentz
August 12th, 2009
9:14 pm
Steve from OH………..a sinker baller can afford to give up hits, if he doesnt walk a lot of hitters. You forgot to mention that Lowe doesnt give up a lot of walks. Few walks, getting double plays means more margin for error when it comes to giving up hits.
Steve from OH
August 12th, 2009
9:14 pm
No prob, McFann. Rest assured that the rest of us here like your input…
Chop It Up All-Stars
August 12th, 2009
9:14 pm
Crushed!!
The Bird and Indian
August 12th, 2009
9:14 pm
Wow. 4 solo homers.
Larry
August 12th, 2009
9:14 pm
sweet
RHR
August 12th, 2009
9:14 pm
MARTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN!!!!!!
Vinings Jim
August 12th, 2009
9:14 pm
Marteeeeen!
PWHjort
August 12th, 2009
9:14 pm
4 solo shots? Who’da thunk it?
DirtyYuni
August 12th, 2009
9:14 pm
And there’s Marteeeeeeen with the breathing room. Love it.
Necromancer
August 12th, 2009
9:14 pm