1:30 pm August 12, 2009, by Carroll Rogers
August 12th, 20097:11 pm
I’m Glad It’s just a 2 game series, because Morgan is really getting on my nerves…!
morgan kills us
man, i hate that gnat Morgan…
Good throw by McCann!
August 12th, 20097:12 pm
Nice Throw B-Macc!!!
Nicely done, Mac!
Supes: “Paul Lentz,
You are aware that Tim isn’t going to be brought up until the rosters expand in September, or there about, b/c he’s due to make 3 more rehab starts (after tonight).”
Supes, I doubt they wait until Sept. because if you bring him up in Sept., he cannot be on the playoff roster. All playoff rosters are set on Aug. 31….if memory serves me correctly.
OK, McCann is onto Morgan today…
He looked safe today too.
YES! F’ You Morgan!
August 12th, 20097:13 pm
good start by d-lowe…
Ah, the replay shows he was safe.. Still a good throw though.
lowe still cant find the strike zone
Yee-haw! Great throw, me mann!!
Wow, We Got another Break…
It’s Karma for us getting screwed so many times on blown calls!
Wow, more blog mojo? McCann got one there.
Maybe he’s getting credit from the ref for not throwing it into center field.
Nova Scotia Steve
COuld be one of those “average” night’s here for Lowe
Mid Town Joe
August 12th, 20097:14 pm
I always found it ironic the Nettles ended being a Brave after his Padres years.
giants just one it in the bottom of the 10th…
August 12th, 20097:15 pm
c-ya all after the game!
DP: “Monty and Pete, apparently you missed it but Bill Buckner was back in Fenway in the last year or two and got a long standing ovation.”
I saw it and it was awesome. I (and I believe Monty) was referring to the 10 or so years after that incident, when he couldnt get anywhere near Boston without being threatened.
Bad call costs Nationals a run…I thought all the bad calls went against the Braves?
Derek’s in trouble. Need a groundball….c’mon!
wow…that’s obviously supposed to be “won” it…man, i am losing it…
August 12th, 20097:16 pm
Here we go… that stupid Zimmerman, and Lowe looks like is going to have a looooooong night…
Damn, D-Lowe is off so far. Maybe it’s just the first inning blues. (I hope)
Lowe Gettin Slapped This Inning!!!
What the hell is goin on
August 12th, 20097:17 pm
Uh oh. Not good.
Supes……….the key phrase in your response is “when healthy”. Will Tim Hudson, upon his return, be the Tim Hudson of old? How many pitchers come back “their old selves” IMMEDIATELY upon their return from elbow surgery?
Even when the rosters expand, I just dont see Bobby Cox going with a 6 man rotation. Also, if the Braves are counting on September 1 to bring up additional bullpen help, then we are indeed in trouble. Do we really want Buddy Carlyle facing Ryan Howard with runners on base in the 6th or 7th inning?
Also, I recognize that an injury to one of our starters could come about between now and then. However, barring that, I feel that the GREATER NEED is another strong arm in the bullpen, not another arm in the rotation.
Buffalo NY Braves Fan
Ok, another one of those odd nights where I’m stuck at work with no contact. Anyone able to give me a little run down of whats happening?
…And Roach bobbles it.
There it goes…
This is suckin’
Some seem to say that Liebrandt’s performance in the World Series should be overlooked because he helped them get to the series.
what we are saying is that Charlie was a productive pitcher that year, and neither one of the situations being whined about were bad choices for him. If he didn’t start game one he would have had to start game two, and there was no better choice as a reliever in the other game. There is nothing easier -and less realistic-than looking back after the fact and finding to bitch about. Shows no creativity or knowledge, just a dismal need to cast blame. If fans didn’t tie their egos to their teams so much, it would result in a short, mild disappointmen and be over in a day, just like a hangover.
August 12th, 20097:18 pm
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Nice play by Chipper there.
not going to be a good day for lowe
Nice scoup by Chipper…needed that
Good Stab Hoss!
Way to get outta trouble. Great play Chipper!
Nice play by the over-the-hill third baseman!
Steve from OH
Nice play by Chipper and nice turn by Prado.
August 12th, 20097:19 pm
great start by our 15 mill/yr ace…
and no, lentz, i don’t want you to go on one of your annoyingly repetitive diatribes about lowe…or anything else for that matter…
yes, i think his contract is awful…atrocious…a montrosity…
Wow…that coulda been a lot worse…
It would’ve been nicer to have that play one batter earlier…
August 12th, 20097:20 pm
Supes……..also, I said SHORT RELIEVER (meaning he would help Soriano and Gonzalez pitch the 8th and 9th innings) not middle relief.
You’re just another poster who likes to “exaggerate” and twist what someone says. NEVER have I advocated to turn Hudson into a middle reliever.
What I have said was that if Tim Hudson gets put in the starting rotation, then Kawakami will be the one pitching in middle/long relief. Kawakami does not have the make-up to be a short reliever.
I dont mind you refuting what I have to say. Just dont make up stuff when you do it.
Overlooking the Nats is never good.
Well that could’ve been one helluva lot worse…if ya can’t score one you ain’t gonna win anyway. Let’s go boys.
That First Inning could be a crucial point in this game especially if its close…The Nats wasted their chance which is good…
August 12th, 20097:21 pm
Houston up 1-0 top 1st.
August 12th, 20097:22 pm
but I thought the rest was solid but it looks like you disagree so I’ll go sit in the corner now…(STEVE)
don’t read into it something that I didn’t say or mean. I was just interested in what you meant specifically. I thought the same a bit, but it’s a lot easier to be sure if you can run those clips in slo-mo. Find us such a site my man.
Lowe looked horrible there…Lucky he only gave uo 1 run..
What’s wrong with McLouth???
Mid Town Joe……….also, if I’m correct, Clarence Jones was a coach on that 1984 Padres team before he became the Braves hitting coach.
How much more time are the Braves waiting to plunk Morgan? I mean seriously…
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
August 12th, 20097:23 pm
Braves don’t make the WS in 91 without Aljeandro Pena, either.
And he’s the one that gave up the hit to Larkin in Game 7.
Nice Double by our Team MVP!
Prado! Let’s get him in!
My guy, Marteeeeeeeeeen.
August 12th, 20097:24 pm
Paul Lentz, I don’t know why you’re so intent on having Hudson pitch in short relief as control problems are typical for those coming off TJ surgery…and do you really want a late-innings guy that’s liable to walk the ballpark? That usually means a lot of blown leads and “Cox is a moron” (or is it MORON?) rants.
When Hudson comes back we will (and should) go into the rotation.
BTW that was something that nobody even thought about back in my day, and there are polar schools of thought on it today. I’m not sure exactly what I believe about it yet.
August 12th, 20097:25 pm
JasonInFL…………Lowe gave up one run. Dude isnt going to pitch a shut out. I dont get “riled” up just because our starting pitcher gives up a run. Do you really think that the bum the Nationals have out there is going to shut us out?
Relax a little. Lowe will be fine.
Steve from OH,
Not only do I agree with Hudson going in the rotation, I could see KK getting shut down and put on the DL with “shoulder faigue” as well.
August 12th, 20097:26 pm
Oh and Paul
We get that you’re happy that FW cut Glavine and Smotlz. You’ve told us that UPTEEN DOZEN frecking times.
Ya know, it really is time for ya to give it a rest.
August 12th, 20097:27 pm
but it’s a lot easier to be sure if you can run those clips in slo-mo
Yep. I almost didn’t mention it b/c of that but there were a few clips that I thought it was pretty pronounced…but then again, nobody’s paying me for that analysis so take it with a boulder of salt.
(And I know that’s not what you meant…just a bit of self-deprecation)
Brutal pitch Chipper
That near .300 OBP and .700 OPS since the All-Star break everyday from the 2-hole is becoming a bigger drag than Johnson hitting leadoff, Schafer and Francoeur.
Apparently you missed the memo… if the Braves are paying you $15 mil/yr and you’re the ace of the staff, you need to throw perfect games or no hitters every time out….. or that is just what JasonInFL thinks?
You wanna Raise Me in my saying that Chipper hasn’t been clutch this year…?
August 12th, 20097:28 pm
Argh. So close. Oh well.
August 12th, 20097:29 pm
ummm…. is Prado still on 2nd? Is it still 1-0? I’ve gotten more score updates on the Houston score than the Braves….. am I on the right blog?
nolie: “what we are saying is that Charlie was a productive pitcher that year, and neither one of the situations being whined about were bad choices for him. If he didn’t start game one he would have had to start game two, and there was no better choice as a reliever in the other game. There is nothing easier -and less realistic-than looking back after the fact and finding to bitch about.”
Nolie dont know if you lived in Atlanta back then, but I can assure you its much more than “looking back.” Most of the media, fans, announcers, etc. questioned that decision at the time……and received no logical reply.
Wow… 5-0 ’stros.
August 12th, 20097:30 pm
AAAAAAAAA!!!! Why must he always be out number 3???
How many times cann I say tearin’ me apart, breakin’ my heart…
Those two guys, Chipper and McCann… that was the best definition of clutch hitting right there…
McFann…can you petition Bobby to move Escobar to the 4-hole please?
L. Ron Robinson
Whatever happened to that guy who always posted “double pits to chesty” on this blog?
Steve from OH…………Hudson has never had a problem with control. I’m not saying that he wont have control issues upon his return. If anything I’m sure that he will come back with some good stuff. The issue with coming back from this kind of injury is stamina, how deep into a game he can get into as a starter.
Look, I have no problem with Tim Hudson coming back as a starter next year (provided the Braves want to pick up his 2010 extension). He will have plenty of time to work on his stamina in the off season. I just have doubts about Hudson being able to pitch like the Tim Hudson of old, as a starter, immediately upon his return.
I could see KK getting shut down and put on the DL with “shoulder faigue” as well.
I kinda get that same feeling, man.
nolie–I think the “Nymanites” have a lot of good points, but in my completely unexpert opinion, the elbow thing is a pretty risky move. I can see why some people might not think it’s all that bad, but I completely disagree with those that advocate that type of “scap-loading.”
August 12th, 20097:31 pm
I cann try, but I doubt it’ll work.
August 12th, 20097:34 pm
Nova Scotia Steve,
Thanks. It’s frustrating following the game on here when everyone yells a name and thinks that everyone else knows what they are talking about haha.
I’m stuck here for another 30 mins, then I can go home and watch the game for myself….
It’s quite possible the Braves call up Tim Hudson 1-2 days before that sept. deadline (elligible for playoff rosters), but it’ll be a mere technicality. I don’t think they expect him to start for the big league club until September.
Keep on dreaming…Tim Hudson is NOT a relief pitcher. Thankfully you are not the one making the decisions on who goes where, or you’d have the team’s ace in mop up duty spots
I love it when you try to sound all smart and superior and still come out stupid by repeating yourself over and over again. Keep on…it sure is entertaining!
August 12th, 20097:35 pm
Buffalo NY Braves Fan, don’t worry about what JasonInFL thinks, bro. But, now that you brought it up, you can bet that I certainly think there are better ways to spend $15 mill/yr than on an aging 36 year old pitcher for the next four years…hey, if you, Paul, and other fellow Bravo fans think it’s money well spent, more power to ya. Me, I rather not overpay a #2 starter by about 25%, according to Fangraphs, as if he were a #1 to take up about 16% of our total payroll…just think the money could have been better spent. But, like I said, if you think he is a staff ace…
Hey Pete, you’ve had a logical reply but you don’t want to hear it. Leibrandt had a good year for the Braves, won 15 games. He was well rested. He wasn’t a situational lefty out of the bullpen, he was used to pitching to righthanded and lefthanded hitters. The 2 best relievers had already gone 2 innings each. Leibrandt could have potentially gone 4 or 5 innings. He started the 11th with no men on base, what he was used to as a starter.
Why don’t you tell us how Cox blew game 7 by having Pena in the game to give up the Series winning hit? Does it only apply to Leibrandt?
nats lead 1-0 after 1 1/2
Good inning, Derek – went out to refresh the mojitos and he had gotten through the inning.
Good inning…Lowe’s gunna be alright…I have faith in the guy…
Mid Town Joe, thank you so much for posting that Pascual Perez brawl video. I vividly recall playing baseball in my backyard when my older brother yelled at me to come in and watch. The funniest part is that Perez was so thin that the Padres Just. Couldn’t. Hit. Him. It took four guys to pull it off.
Hugh E. Wreckshin
There is no such thing as clutch hitters.
August 12th, 20097:36 pm
Yeah, good inning, Lowe.
Too bad we didn’t tie it up in that last freaking inning.
August 12th, 20097:37 pm
Are you really talking about clutch hitting in the FIRST INNING?Against a guy none of these guys have seen before?
The issue with coming back from this kind of injury is stamina, how deep into a game he can get into as a starter.
Uhh, then what are all those rehab starts for?
A lot of pitchers have control problems after TJ, particularly with the breaking ball. I remember Wren talking about it (IIRC, or maybe it was the radio guys) during one of Erik Cordier’s starts for MB. In any case I’ve heard that elsewhere and it makes sense.
Don’t underestimate yourself. I think you cann persuade him.
Looks a little bit like last night. Rough beginning but settling down now.
JasonInFl, I don’t think it was the smartest thing for the Braves to do but even if Lowe declines over the next few years then I think they could flip him into a closer. He’d be an elite one, maybe.
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