3:38 pm August 5, 2009, by David O'Brien
Nova Scotia Steve
August 6th, 20091:46 pm
I’m gunna be bloggin like a mo’ fo’ tonight…
Another concern is that Kenshin Kawakami pitches in this Dodger series…(Yes…you can start praying for us all at any moment)
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
August 6th, 20091:47 pm
Looking forward to seeing Heyward and F-Dub tommorrow night against the H’ville Stars. for a 5-game wrap-around set. Heard that tons of MLB scouts are in town as well. DOB, how common is that for a bunch of scouts descending in one minor league series.
August 6th, 20091:49 pm
ernesto – not sure what stink you’re referring to?
Chris Chambliss is the Manager of the Charlotte Knights … AAA White Sox.
August 6th, 20091:50 pm
August 6th, 20091:51 pm
Good win last night but this train don’t need to stop here, thanks Elton. I suspect DLowe will need to have a 7-8 inning performance with a line like this: 8 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 5 K
Kelly ( LF )
Nova Scotia Steve,
Hey, I’m the biggest KK apologist on this blog, I thought he pitched pretty decent the other night, we just did not get any runs early. You notice, that he pitches better and cuts down on his walks once he has a lead.
I am concerned about his next start against the Dodgers, although it is a pitcher’s park, Kemp, Loney, and Manny rake like fools at home.
A week or so ago, Nathan posted about how we might get by without as much power out of the 1B position because we got plus power from McCann at catcher.
That’s a dangerous concept for a team that has no, repeat, zero, impact power bats. Get a coupla thugs in the middle of the order, and then you can talk about “balancing out”. Until then, it’s the same-old, same-old: not enough offensive depth. Everybody in this current lineup has to hit, and slumps anywhere in it make three-run “outbursts” the all-too-often outcome.
August 6th, 20091:52 pm
Chop Chop-I don’t really know-hindsight would be helpful, right?
I would imagine that if Hudson shows us something in his (what will now likely be a brief) return, that I’d prefer trying to move Kawakami and keeping Hudson. However, with this problem he’s now experiencing, I’m just not so sure Hudson will have enough time to show us what he may bring to the table next year. I’d still let him ride (not exercise the option), and use the $$$$$ to sign a power hitter.
I think an extension to Vazquez would be a good move.
I saw where The Hurt Locker is opening in more theaters this weekend. If any of you movie nuts haven’t seen it, I’d strongly urge you to do so. Best movie I’ve seen this year, no doubt. I haven’t seen 500 Days of Summer or Moon yet, and I hear both are outstanding. Hard to imagine they’re better than The Hurt Locker, though.
Kelly in RF, pardon me
August 6th, 20091:53 pm
Lowe has done well for the Braves. 11-7 and a 4.21 era (I recall) mesans that Lowe is delivering what is expected of him. He’s been a rock, so why would the Braves want to move him?
As DOB commented, Hudson needs to pitch before Wren exercises his option. If Wren picks up Hudson’s option, I’d imagine Kawakami is the odd man out.
I doubt the Trade Vazquez Rooting Section will have their wish come true.
August 6th, 20091:54 pm
scoots-maybe so, but that was hardly the point being made. Besides, we got LaRoche. We’re cool nowe, tight?
August 6th, 20091:55 pm
Got to admit, LaRoche has come on strong. What’s the beeting on Wren trying to resign him?
August 6th, 20091:56 pm
Never mind resigning him, let’s just get his bat in the cleanup spot!
August 6th, 20091:57 pm
All for that…
If Wren is banking on LaRoche to be red-hot the rest of the second half, then I’d like to think he has enough common sense to know that the man won’t hit much in the first half next season. Wren has no reason to sign Roachy long-term.
August 6th, 20091:58 pm
Well, the Nats got 3…so, it’s at least a ball game again… 6-3 Fish.
August 6th, 20091:59 pm
Haven’t seen the Hurt Locker, but it’s getting excellent ratings. Will put it at the top of my movie list.
August 6th, 20092:00 pm
We’re cool nowe, tight?
Lew, are you going McFann on us and giving subtle props to Lowe? I know you cann do it.
Hey, who put my picture at the top?
August 6th, 20092:02 pm
Oh yeah! Aren’t we all…
Well, all except for Bobby, I guess. Almost everybody else gets moved down in the order when struggling…Why not my mann?
I have been to a movie theatre one (1) time in about…..uhmmm…. 5 years. I hate the movie theatre experience. Sticky floors…loud, obnoxious people…expensive treats… how do you do it? Keep the movie recommendations coming, though. I’ll just continue to put them in the Netflix list and watch ‘em later with the home theatre experience (which I have made very nicely).
Good game goin on in Philly…1-1 Btm 4th
August 6th, 20092:03 pm
I rarely see new movies; but, I saw the Hurt Locker. See it, in the theater. Enjoy it, and thank DOB for telling you to see it.
DOB, when the rosters expand, will Jason Heyward get a call?
Actually, I take that back…Bobby doesn’t move guys down a whole lot ever…
August 6th, 20092:04 pm
2010 starting pitching rotation:
LOWE, JURRGENS, VASQUEZ, HANSON, HUDSON – hey, I can live with that.
Chop Chop… I wouldn’t expect Wren to tender LaRoche a big, long term deal. What about a couple of years with an option? Wren doesn’t give no-trade clauses, so if LaRoche’s contract isn’t astronomical (I doubt it would be), he still has the option to move him when Freeman is ready.
Would hate to see the Bravos with the equivalent of Scott Thorman at the corner.
Fish get 3 more… 8-3 now.
If the Fillies aren’t losing, it’s not a good game.
typo… 2 more.
August 6th, 20092:05 pm
Just a good pitching match-up…Cook Vs Lee….YIKES
I’d still let [Hudson] ride (not exercise the option), and use the $$$$$ to sign a power hitter.
Lew, you always say that, and I have to think you haven’t taken a look at FA bats that are going to be available. Spend the money on whom, exactly?
Does seem to be the case!
Steve from OH
August 6th, 20092:08 pm
Gee richbrave, I dunno, we don’t have an ace.. We need an ace to stack up with Santana and Lee, right? At least, that was the argument coming into the season. Pitching depth just ain’t that valuable, right?
August 6th, 20092:09 pm
Zimmerman gets 2 more for the Nats…. 8-5
August 6th, 20092:10 pm
Bud Selig pisses me off:
Two sources said that Minor could have signed months earlier if not for interference from MLB. Minor and the Braves agreed in principle on the $2.42 million bonus before the draft—but before Atlanta received official word that the slots were reduced. The commissioner’s office pressured the Braves not to make the above-slot deal official so they wouldn’t hurt the Reds in their attempt to sign Arizona State righthander Mike Leake, the No. 8 pick, to a below-slot bonus.
Via Baseball America.
August 6th, 20092:12 pm
RHR – your 1:12 comment.
Just some good old fashioned SEC obnoxiousness, that we all know and love
August 6th, 20092:13 pm
Nats got 2 back in the bottom, looking for more. Zimmerman homer, Dunn single and Willingham double. Only 1 out.
You didn’t want Minor. Selig was trying to save us some cash on a guy you didn’t want. You should applaud the man.
August 6th, 20092:15 pm
We could have retracted the offer and told Minor that the commish didn’t want him to get that much. I’m sure he would have taken less money. Steve, we have to trust in the commissioner. He’d never do a body wrong.
August 6th, 20092:16 pm
I’d sign Russell Branyan to a ten-year, $10 million deal. Give him a $9 million signing bonus.
Yeah, I didn’t particularly care for Minor, but I’m a man of principle, and my disdain of slot recommendations comes before my disdain for questionable draft choices.
August 6th, 20092:17 pm
I’d much prefer to give the commish a big FU, Chop Chop.
August 6th, 20092:18 pm
8-6 now between Fish and Nats.
8-6 Marlins. Sac fly by Elijah “It was the Dukes, it was the” Dukes. Anyone guess the movie reference?
I figured as much, ernesto.
Make it 8-7 now…
August 6th, 20092:21 pm
….still 1-1 in Phi. Come on Rockies!
It is unhealthy to obsess over a Marlins/Nats game.
Besides, I’d be lying if I said I hadn’t softened my stance on Minor a bit, Chop Chop.
Well, in any case, he’s a Brave now, and I shall now defend his ability to the death, along with Chipper and Cox.
August 6th, 20092:22 pm
It is slightly less unhealthy to obsess over a Phils/Rox game.
Chop Chop -
…not obsessing….just thought someone might be interested in some updates.
August 6th, 20092:24 pm
Bako hits a solo shot..2-1
Paul Bako just hit a solo home-run for Philly….Like Seriously…
Last home run June 9th 2008
….carp? hmmmm. Carp are nasty fish, so, maybe not totally irrelevant.
August 6th, 20092:27 pm
Darn, whoever suggested moving Derek Lowe can forget it. It ain’t happening. Nobody wants to take on that contract, esp. the last 2 years of it when D-Lowe will be pushing 40.
Meanwhile…D-Lowe has been good for the team, he had that rough 4 game stretch but he’s recovered nicely.
When Jair is ready to be an ACE, and when Huddy returns to 100% health, D-Lowe can slot in the 3rd spot in the rotation, probably where he belongs to begin with. I dare say he’s better than 99% out of 3rd starters in MLB. Most teams have ‘2 aces’ and then…there is a significant drop off.
After Jair and Huddy the braves will be able to throw:
D-Lowe, Javy Vazquez and Tommy Hanson! I don’t think there is another team in the majors that can match us top to bottom for pitching depth.
August 6th, 20092:29 pm
My philosophy is: never do anything half-assed. If Bud Selig really wants to enforce the draft slot bonuses, then make them hard and fast rules. Why he has to dance around it giving “recommendations” then just sort of glaring at you if you go over, I don’t know. It’s so stupid. Either make it an institution or get rid of it. The half-ass approach never works. Either try to win with the group you’ve got or sell them off and rebuild. Either go with a 4-man rotation or go with a 5-man rotation. Either enforce the slots or get rid of them. Meeting in the middle is usually not a good idea.
August 6th, 20092:30 pm
DOB – As I said before, I thought Moon was awesome. Saw 500 Days last night, thought it was good not great. Did pretty much what you think it will…overall i’d recommend Away We Go first, I think.
Though Zooey Deschanel is gorgeous and charming throughout.
August 6th, 20092:31 pm
Bases full for Hanley Ramirez….1 out.
You all are Cox apologists
Boy, I sure hope Cox signs an extension for next year because he is and always will be the BEST MANAGER OF ALL TIME. So what if we haven’t made the playoffs for what will be the fourth consecutive season? Cox NEVER makes mistakes, as indicated by most AJC bloggers. If Cox leaves, what will the poor, poor Braves do? There isn’t any manager half as good as Cox. I think COX SHOULD MANAGE FOREVER because he won us those 14 straight division titles. Cox only won 1 World Series out of 14 but I bet NO OTHER MANAGER WOULD HAVE DONE BETTER. Larussa, no! Leyland, NO! The World Series we lost to the Yankees in 96 was just bad luck. Cox made ALL THE RIGHT MOVES AND SUBS, the players just didn’t get it done. If I hear one more blogger rip Bobby Cox, I will call and report it to the police.
August 6th, 20092:32 pm
Shove that up your Bud, Selig!
Brett Esterson: 8-6 Marlins. Sac fly by Elijah “It was the Dukes, it was the” Dukes. Anyone guess the movie reference?
One of my favorites, Trading Places.
August 6th, 20092:33 pm
I’m definitely going to see “The Hurt Locker” when it starts to play here in my area of the Greater Metro Atlanta
Is “Moon” the film about an astronaunt stranded on the moon in a station by himself for 3 years (contract) and then he “stars seeing things”, etc? It’s basically a “one man movie” most of the time, correct?
August 6th, 20092:34 pm
Just went to check out yahoo sports…four of their eight headlines are about the Red Sox. Seriously?
August 6th, 20092:36 pm
Seriously man, you can’t just go ’round shooting people in the kneecaps.
When Bobby Cox retires, we should re-name Turner Field as “Cox Field”. He certainly deserves it, the man’s a legend. I will quit my job to protest if Bobby Cox is encouraged to resign or let go. COX IS A PERFECT MANAGER so anyone who questions him will feel my wrath. The players play and the coaches coach, SHEESH!!!!
Crazy Trades McGee
August 6th, 20092:37 pm
The Fonz @ 2:00pm… I’m still laughing…
who is this Jurrgens fella?
Moon is an extremely good movie, DOB
Cox Field??? insert joke here >
August 6th, 20092:38 pm
Javier Vazquez is the Braves ace. I know they signed Derek Lowe to be their ace, but it hasn’t worked out that way. Vazquez has been a workhorse and has consistently had the best outings of any Atlanta pitcher. As far as consistency goes, it would look something like this:
1) Javier Vazquez
2) Jair Jurjjens
3) Tommy Hanson
4) Derek Lowe
5) Kenshin Kawakami
I really expect Kawakami to move to the bullpen when Tim Hudson gets ready. It may be that Kris Medlen is the odd man out until rosters expand but Kawakami may be the long man/mop up man in the near future. Atlanta has got to feel that Kawakami’s salary is a waste. He is very average for $8 million salary. With Infante due back shortly and the possibility of adding the youngsters from the minors, I would say that the rest of the season should be very interesting for the Braves.
Fish fail to score…. still 8-7.
Phils now 3-1.
Any word on how TIM HUDSON is progressing? I want Kawakrappy out of the rotation so bad…Thanks!
August 6th, 20092:39 pm
Some guy who came up with his own line of body wash
August 6th, 20092:41 pm
I totally agree with you on slotting. Either make it hard and fast or get rid of it entirely. You still have the wealthy teams getting highly ranked players lower in the draft because the poorer teams will not go above slot.
Just a bad system…..
Can we please ban posters who criticize Bobby or yourself? We all know that Bobby IS PERFECT, so when these unintelligent bloggers make stupid comments about Cox, let’s raid em out. DOB can never criticize Cox or he probably wouldn’t get an interview. Some would say, “keep it real and report the story”, but you just don’t understand. It’s more important to KISS UP in life rather than to tell it like it is. So everyone, let’s continue supporting Cox, even if we don’t make the playoffs because NOTHING IS EVER COX’S FAULT.
Rob from SC
Mets starter jon Niese torn his hamstring away from the bone. Out for the season, and they hope he will be ready for ST.
Rock On......the denizen formerly known as Dadgum
August 6th, 20092:43 pm
RHR….you are correct. In fact AAA is not really a last step before the majors like it used to be. Certainly not for hitters. Pitchers can get more seasoned there but good hitters are seeing enough quality in AA where they don’t need AAA.
Here in Richmond the AAA Braves were a bad product and the stadium issue not withstanding not many viewed the Braves as a good team. The dollar spent was too much for the product received in return. The exciting thing is that it appears we will get a AA franchise with some of the Giants top prospects playing here.
PWH–agreed on slotting. It only hurts the clubs who follow the rules.
August 6th, 20092:45 pm
Rob–did you see the video of it? It hurt to watch. Gotta feel for Niese…
August 6th, 20092:47 pm
In fact AAA is not really a last step before the majors like it used to be. Certainly not for hitters. Pitchers can get more seasoned there but good hitters are seeing enough quality in AA where they don’t need AAA.
There’s just no changing your mind on that, is there?
August 6th, 20092:48 pm
Thrillhouse Lew, are you going McFann on us and giving subtle props to Lowe? I know you cann do it.
Yeah, there’s no shame in that!
August 6th, 20092:49 pm
BillyHohn…..yeah, Hudson may indeed move KK to the pen but I wouldn’t count on it near term. Still think Hudson only gets the starts he needs to show Braves he is back. Hudson is auditioning if you will for his 12 mil option. That will be Hudson’s job this year…to prove he is back and I for one am not going to annoint a start to someone coming off TJ and put him in a must win game (which all are from this point on). Gotta stick with KK, IMO, he ain’t that bad.
Nice work Pierson Brave, Merry New Year!
August 6th, 20092:51 pm
Steve from OH,
I saw the video on MLB Quickpitch last night and it ws Atlee
Hammaker- esque to say the least. I blame the Mets training staff for lettingthat happen. They are on their way out anyway with the rash of injuries that has befallen that team.
August 6th, 20092:55 pm
Steve from OH
how did he tear it
How did Minor get that much cash? Everything I read was that he was a back of the rotation starter at best…aka a white Kawakami
August 6th, 20092:56 pm
Any word on how TIM HUDSON is progressing? I want Kawakrappy out of the rotation so bad…Thanks a lot
I’m a KK guy and he is not as bad as most say he is, he keeps you games and gives you 5-6 decent IP’s. It just looks bad when he getting pulled in the 7th and he’s losing 2-1 or 3-1 all the time. Bravos just don’t score any runs in his starts.
I love Huddy and would rather him start an postseason Game 3 or 4 if we have one.
August 6th, 20092:57 pm
UNCBrave, how many times you going to ask that question? You know, i bet if you did a google search on Tim Hudson, you would find all kinds of updates.
Rob, it looked to me like he did the majority of the damage while covering first (he stretched out and nearly did the splits), and then he went to test it on a warm-up pitch and snap, there it went.
Brooklyn Braves–yeah, you could say that. I don’t know what happened on the field in between the injury and the pitch, but you gotta think the trainers could’ve done a better job assessing the extent of the injury before testing it…
Kawakami will be 5-10 after tomorrow night and you guys would rather have him in the starting rotation than Tim Hudson??
Tim Hudson will be in the rotation, KK to the bull pen and hopefully later the TRADING BLOCK when Huddy is able to come back
August 6th, 20092:58 pm
I agree with what you guys and gals have been saying about Lowe. I think the Braves have to cross their fingers and hope that he continues to pitch well during the remainder of the contract. He will be 39 in the last year of the contract so no other team is going to take him on for that kind of money. He has pitched well this year and hopefully he can get up to 16-17 wins. So far, it has worked out well. We’ll see in years 3-4
Kawakami isn’t pitching tomorrow. Nice try though.
August 6th, 20092:59 pm
Rob–video is below:
August 6th, 20093:00 pm
D-Lowe has had one bad stretch, he might finish with 15-18 wins…might not be worth 15 mill but would easily make a #2 starter at minimum with 90% of the teams
August 6th, 20093:01 pm
Tyler Flowers is struggling with strikeouts so far in Triple A. in 50 at-bats he has 1 walk and 16 K’s.
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