Every source so far says that it’s a Kotch for Lorache straight up trade… So now the question, who’s the source that’s feeding all these people? Another thing I hate is all of them talk about the Red Sox doing this cause it’s convenient for them, like all the other teams other than the Yanks just do what they say or something, lol.
OklahomaBrave – You’re beings sarcastic about Kotch’s d right? I mean, you know, him being the best defensive 1B in the MLB (maybe even with Tex) I hope so..
OK Brave: signing D. Lowe was a result of not signing AJ Burnett and Smoltz – pure luck and the jury is still out for the next three years on Lowe. Kenshin K. has been a bust for the money shelled out. The Vasquez trade was his shining moment. Furcal non-signing – pure luck. Hanson was a no-brainer. Not getting Peavy – dumb luck, thanks to the Padres’ greed. Now Wren trades Kotchman, a contact hitter who takes pitches and was part of the good chemistry this lineup has had recently, for a guy who has average power and strikes out like a mini Adam Dunn.
Uh, yeah, sure, whatever. He was moron, despite himself in December.
Meanwhile, sources tell ESPN’s Peter Gammons that Boston has spun off first baseman Adam LaRoche in a trade to his former team, the Atlanta Braves. LaRoche will return to Atlanta in exchange for first baseman Casey Kotchman. The Red Sox reportedly view Kotchman as a better fit in a bench role, and the Braves are looking for more offense in LaRoche. He would have filled only a very limited role had LaRoche remained in Boston after the acquisition of Martinez.
Now Rosenthal says that the Pads and Dodgers are working on a deal involving Gonzlaez. To the Dodgers? Are you kidding me. They really don’t care about their fans…
A few days ago everyone talked about how Kotch wasn’t powerful enough and didn’t give us any offense and now we trade for a productive second half player with pop and everyone is mad??
Neftali Feliz, Matt Harrison, Elvis Andrus, Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Beau Jones –>Ron Mahay, Mark Teixeira –> Casey Kotchman, Steve Marek –>Adam LaRoche.
On the flip side, now it is as if Mike Gonzalez was acquired for Brent Lillibridge.
My “favorite” memory of Adam LaRoche: I attended a Dodgers/Braves game (how fitting). Adam hit a Grand Slam to put the Braves up in the top of the inning. Bottom of the inning Adam misfields a ball. Then a walk. Then Adam “fields” another ball on the infield and stands there and looks at the fans and the grass while every one advances safely to their base to load them up. Meltdown Bradely hits a grand slam to put the Dodgers up. Dodgers win. Adam LaChoke is still standing there day dreaming.
Bravooss, I believe nothing hit to Kotch get’s passed him but he’s looked confused on a couple of plays including last night on where he should be. That being said Kotchmans D >>>>> Laroche
IF it’s a straight up trade, seems to me they’ll either go FA for 2010 at 1B or it’s Freeman’s turn. This might be a “stand-pat” move (most think this is a lateral move?) and more of a move for 2010. Anybody know any 1B free agents next year?
LaRoche has more power, but is not as good as a contact hitter. Kotchman is a little better defensively too. The only thing that I can think is that, as another blogger mentioned, maybe this appeases Chipper and McLouth who are currently under performing.
Guess we weren’t standing pat, kotchman seemed to be heating up, liked the glove. I don’t get it, I guess they are counting on LaRoche’s big 2nd half. Only reason I can figure.
The only reason I could see this trade making sense is if they plan to platoon Infante and Laroche when Infante comes back…of course, Kotch was a lefty too so I really have no idea.
LaRoche is 7m, one year, through arbitration, Kotch was almost 3m, one year, also through arbitration. LaRoche FA at end of year, I think Kotch still arb eligible? We just acquired salary for a worse hitter and worse defender?
If all the Braves get is Roachy in this, then it is indeed a head scratcher…..you don’t disrupt the kind of chemistry the Braves created in the past month unless there’s something that really improves the club. It’s the Braves’ loss, in my opinion, if this Kotchman for Roachy trade goes through. This only gives the Braves another high strikeout, occasional power guy, when we had a Gold Glove caliber 1B who makes good contact, and was beginning to show some pop as well…..
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tale of woe
July 31st, 2009
3:51 pm
LMAO – Stop the Votto stuff….
Mixxo
July 31st, 2009
3:51 pm
9:00 left and My Head Is Spinning !!!!!
Mitchie-san
July 31st, 2009
3:51 pm
“We couldn’t possibly do a trade that made us worse on offense, worse on defense, and gave us a much higher payroll.”
—Exactly! Theres got to be more…
Dumbfound
July 31st, 2009
3:51 pm
By Kotchman getting traded for Adam Laroache straight up, You know what this means people !! Greg Norton is still on this Damn team !!!!!!!!!!!!!
FaninFaytown
July 31st, 2009
3:51 pm
straight up? lol wow
BravesFanChris24
July 31st, 2009
3:51 pm
LaRoche for Kotchman straight up.
nfieldr
July 31st, 2009
3:51 pm
Wonder if Kotch for LaRoche is strictly one for one, if Kotch’s clubhouse presence played any part in decision
Heath
July 31st, 2009
3:52 pm
MLB Network says trade is straight up now too.
VP
July 31st, 2009
3:52 pm
According to Steve Phillips this is a straight up deal for Laroche.
David O'Brien
July 31st, 2009
3:52 pm
Canizares called up to play 1B tonight, I’m told. not announced yet.
tale of woe
July 31st, 2009
3:52 pm
MLB Network is confused on the trade…Straight up trade…WEIRD…Don’t Like it
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 31st, 2009
3:52 pm
tommy hanson fan’s pulling everybody’s chain. Unless he isn’t.
Marc from FL
July 31st, 2009
3:52 pm
Every source so far says that it’s a Kotch for Lorache straight up trade… So now the question, who’s the source that’s feeding all these people? Another thing I hate is all of them talk about the Red Sox doing this cause it’s convenient for them, like all the other teams other than the Yanks just do what they say or something, lol.
Dominic
July 31st, 2009
3:52 pm
I heard from a guy that we flipped Laroche for Pujols and Holliday. That gives us some right handed pop. Awesome!!!
ship-builder1
July 31st, 2009
3:52 pm
Adam for Kot straight up trade confirmed and MLB TV is very confused for both sides
NO MORE BOBBY
July 31st, 2009
3:52 pm
Would love to have another McGriff type guy at 1B again.
BravesFanInPA
July 31st, 2009
3:52 pm
steve phillips luvs the move for braves
Anders
July 31st, 2009
3:52 pm
Phillips likes the deal too. That’s good enough for me – no damage done to my Mets {:
BUZZMEAT
July 31st, 2009
3:52 pm
UMMM Larouche is a FA next year, Who plays 1st next year???? Prado?
Good Grief
July 31st, 2009
3:53 pm
They should have threw Kelly Johnson in as well
kayne
July 31st, 2009
3:53 pm
MLB Network just reported it…Kotchman for LaRoche. That is all.
Alex
July 31st, 2009
3:53 pm
LaRoche? really?
The Bird and Indian
July 31st, 2009
3:53 pm
I figured Canizares would play today. Wren made sure Cox couldn’t start Gregory at first.
Bravosss
July 31st, 2009
3:53 pm
OklahomaBrave – You’re beings sarcastic about Kotch’s d right? I mean, you know, him being the best defensive 1B in the MLB (maybe even with Tex) I hope so..
Chop Chop
July 31st, 2009
3:53 pm
There’s a definite defensive drop-off between Kotchman and LaRoche. LaRoche hasn’t fielded well the last two seasons.
I don’t care much for Kotchman or LaRoche, though.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 31st, 2009
3:53 pm
OK Brave: signing D. Lowe was a result of not signing AJ Burnett and Smoltz – pure luck and the jury is still out for the next three years on Lowe. Kenshin K. has been a bust for the money shelled out. The Vasquez trade was his shining moment. Furcal non-signing – pure luck. Hanson was a no-brainer. Not getting Peavy – dumb luck, thanks to the Padres’ greed. Now Wren trades Kotchman, a contact hitter who takes pitches and was part of the good chemistry this lineup has had recently, for a guy who has average power and strikes out like a mini Adam Dunn.
Uh, yeah, sure, whatever. He was moron, despite himself in December.
Now, he’s just a moron.
OklahomaBrave
July 31st, 2009
3:53 pm
I bet Votto is dizzy too.
tommy hanson fan
July 31st, 2009
3:53 pm
braves sent vasquez to boston for bucholtz and masterson per heyman
Raphy "Witch Doctor" Soriano
July 31st, 2009
3:53 pm
BULA BULA BULA!
DOB's Mom
July 31st, 2009
3:53 pm
Laroche for Kotchman straight up. Hmm, I guess Chipper and Nate get their buddy back.
nemov
July 31st, 2009
3:53 pm
Maybe we’re to put LaRouche in a time machine and trade him to the Red Sox for Babe Ruth. That’s actually more likley that the Votto stuff.
KotchWatch
July 31st, 2009
3:53 pm
Old, stinky Braves never really go away, they just keep coming back. This is Greg Colbrunn Part II.
VP
July 31st, 2009
3:53 pm
Meanwhile, sources tell ESPN’s Peter Gammons that Boston has spun off first baseman Adam LaRoche in a trade to his former team, the Atlanta Braves. LaRoche will return to Atlanta in exchange for first baseman Casey Kotchman. The Red Sox reportedly view Kotchman as a better fit in a bench role, and the Braves are looking for more offense in LaRoche. He would have filled only a very limited role had LaRoche remained in Boston after the acquisition of Martinez.
N8
July 31st, 2009
3:53 pm
DOB is mysteriously absent in recent minutes. Something else is brewing.
Glen W
July 31st, 2009
3:53 pm
Now Rosenthal says that the Pads and Dodgers are working on a deal involving Gonzlaez. To the Dodgers? Are you kidding me. They really don’t care about their fans…
Heath
July 31st, 2009
3:54 pm
Even MLB Network saying this is the strangest deal of the day….as it stands.
jeffrey d
July 31st, 2009
3:54 pm
Whether you think this trade is a good idea or not, we’re forgetting the important factor –
Greg Norton is starting tonight
BravesFanChris24
July 31st, 2009
3:54 pm
MLBN Guys saying trading for Kotchman could be a prelude to a deal for A-Gon for Red Sox.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 31st, 2009
3:54 pm
OK, straight up makes sense. We still have to get rid of Norton, however.
Bravosss
July 31st, 2009
3:54 pm
“steve phillips luvs the move for braves”
There’s the proof, it’s an absolute loser.
ChurchMan
July 31st, 2009
3:54 pm
I hate it when you trade a player one year and come back and try to get them a few years later.
You traded them for a reason, at least stick with your decision
tale of woe
July 31st, 2009
3:54 pm
Norton DFA
annoying
July 31st, 2009
3:54 pm
tommy hanson fan stfu already
The Bird and Indian
July 31st, 2009
3:54 pm
A few days ago everyone talked about how Kotch wasn’t powerful enough and didn’t give us any offense and now we trade for a productive second half player with pop and everyone is mad??
TennesseePaul
July 31st, 2009
3:54 pm
I don’t like this deal. Not very much at all.
Neftali Feliz, Matt Harrison, Elvis Andrus, Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Beau Jones –>Ron Mahay, Mark Teixeira –> Casey Kotchman, Steve Marek –>Adam LaRoche.
On the flip side, now it is as if Mike Gonzalez was acquired for Brent Lillibridge.
My “favorite” memory of Adam LaRoche: I attended a Dodgers/Braves game (how fitting). Adam hit a Grand Slam to put the Braves up in the top of the inning. Bottom of the inning Adam misfields a ball. Then a walk. Then Adam “fields” another ball on the infield and stands there and looks at the fans and the grass while every one advances safely to their base to load them up. Meltdown Bradely hits a grand slam to put the Dodgers up. Dodgers win. Adam LaChoke is still standing there day dreaming.
tommy hanson fan
July 31st, 2009
3:54 pm
thats one helluva talent young staff….JJ..hanson..feliz..bucholtz…wow
True Blue
July 31st, 2009
3:54 pm
Braves Got bucholtz for vasquez per bowman
David O'Brien
July 31st, 2009
3:54 pm
Kotch for Roch, done deal. straight up
beachcomber
July 31st, 2009
3:55 pm
Enter your comments here
BravesFanChris24
July 31st, 2009
3:55 pm
jeffery d
Canizares will play 1B tonight.
TnBrian
July 31st, 2009
3:55 pm
but…wait…huh? WOW, GREAT TRADE! This sucks! FIRE WREN! Great move Wren, you hit a homer! I’m confused, dizzy and have diarreah! I feel GREAT!
This place is bad for my health and I’m 27 for Christ Sakes!
OklahomaBrave
July 31st, 2009
3:55 pm
Bravooss, I believe nothing hit to Kotch get’s passed him but he’s looked confused on a couple of plays including last night on where he should be. That being said Kotchmans D >>>>> Laroche
Heath
July 31st, 2009
3:55 pm
How much longer is LaRoche under contract?
VP
July 31st, 2009
3:55 pm
Tommyhansonfan,
Get off that medication man.
BravesinTN
July 31st, 2009
3:55 pm
IF it’s a straight up trade, seems to me they’ll either go FA for 2010 at 1B or it’s Freeman’s turn. This might be a “stand-pat” move (most think this is a lateral move?) and more of a move for 2010. Anybody know any 1B free agents next year?
kelevra
July 31st, 2009
3:55 pm
i dont know if it has been mentioned but laroche is a big time second half player
jeffrey d
July 31st, 2009
3:55 pm
oops, nevermind…just saw DOB’s post
BUZZMEAT
July 31st, 2009
3:55 pm
Canizares at 1b? is this one day or do we finally cut Norton???
MiaBchBravesFan
July 31st, 2009
3:55 pm
No, BUZZMEAT, Bobby will make sure Norton starts at 1B next year.
ChurchMan
July 31st, 2009
3:55 pm
DOB is mysteriously absent in recent minutes. Something else is brewing.
lol, I don’t think a one minute break qualifies as something else brewing. Unless you expect him to post every minute on the minute.
tale of woe
July 31st, 2009
3:55 pm
Adam could NEVER hit lefties…I really don’t like the trade the more I think about it….
Chris from the Rock
July 31st, 2009
3:55 pm
Rolen to the Reds? That’s a head scratcher.
lexbrave
July 31st, 2009
3:56 pm
what an f’n stupid trade for Wren, thought he was doing some great things in atlanta..but this one ..wow…just stupid
BravesFanChris24
July 31st, 2009
3:56 pm
Norton DFA for Canizares?
KotchWatch
July 31st, 2009
3:56 pm
OK, you Braves fans who wanted a big bat. There you go. Are you picking up on the sarcasm?
VP
July 31st, 2009
3:56 pm
Laroche is a FA at the end of the year.
Pete Orr
July 31st, 2009
3:56 pm
FML
LaRoche??? Really??? Dumb trade
OklahomaBrave
July 31st, 2009
3:56 pm
TnBrian, LMFAO!!!
Biff Pocoroba
July 31st, 2009
3:56 pm
Mr. EMotion Adam LaRoche on his way back … lord help us
keylargo
July 31st, 2009
3:56 pm
Kotchman will leave with one Braves record. 126 games and zero errors.
John
July 31st, 2009
3:56 pm
Hold on Kelly…Hold on My Boy !!
nolarw
July 31st, 2009
3:56 pm
just heard kotchman was traded ?
tale of woe
July 31st, 2009
3:56 pm
MLB updating trade NOW
Heath
July 31st, 2009
3:57 pm
LaRoche has more power, but is not as good as a contact hitter. Kotchman is a little better defensively too. The only thing that I can think is that, as another blogger mentioned, maybe this appeases Chipper and McLouth who are currently under performing.
AlabamaBrave
July 31st, 2009
3:57 pm
DOB, does Wren think he will be able to resign LaRoche after this season? Adam is a FA after this season right?
Braves
July 31st, 2009
3:57 pm
We just did the worst trade ever!
MFin04
July 31st, 2009
3:57 pm
LaRoche has a same OBP and 20-30 homers a year, while Casey K is 10-15
tommy hanson fan
July 31st, 2009
3:57 pm
braves are freeing up money to sign albert after 2010
Jake W.
July 31st, 2009
3:57 pm
Guess we weren’t standing pat, kotchman seemed to be heating up, liked the glove. I don’t get it, I guess they are counting on LaRoche’s big 2nd half. Only reason I can figure.
Original Jon
July 31st, 2009
3:57 pm
LaRoche does have more pop in his bat, the guy has 13 homers on the year.
Homer
July 31st, 2009
3:57 pm
FIRE DOB!!!
Rob from SC
July 31st, 2009
3:57 pm
According to Bill Shanks, Kotchman was a A****** in the clubhouse
Bravosss
July 31st, 2009
3:57 pm
OklahomaBrave – Ok, but what about all the diving stops, in the gap and preventing doubles down the line. Bailing out Esco and Chipper constantly….
Shaun
July 31st, 2009
3:57 pm
The Reds trade a younger, good thirdbaseman AND a minor leaguer for Scott Rolen. How does that make any sense for the Reds?
tmac
July 31st, 2009
3:57 pm
Not crazy about LaRoche, but he’s better than Kotchman. Man, that guy is very replaceable at a power position. I think it improves the team.
Kevin in Chatty
July 31st, 2009
3:57 pm
The only reason I could see this trade making sense is if they plan to platoon Infante and Laroche when Infante comes back…of course, Kotch was a lefty too so I really have no idea.
OklahomaBrave
July 31st, 2009
3:57 pm
Pete Orr, what have you been up to these days?
Threadkiller
July 31st, 2009
3:57 pm
Well, Good Luck to Casey!! Now he has a shot to get a ring!!
Dr Hoo
July 31st, 2009
3:58 pm
LaRoche is 7m, one year, through arbitration, Kotch was almost 3m, one year, also through arbitration. LaRoche FA at end of year, I think Kotch still arb eligible? We just acquired salary for a worse hitter and worse defender?
Hillbilly
July 31st, 2009
3:58 pm
OklahomaBrave — “I bet Votto is dizzy too.
Should I feel guilty for laughing my @$$ off at this one?
VP
July 31st, 2009
3:58 pm
What’s up with these rumors about Vazquez to Boston also?
Heath
July 31st, 2009
3:58 pm
Marlins do go ahead and get Nick Johnson from the Nationals.
njbraves
July 31st, 2009
3:58 pm
Dumb trade. La Roche sucks, always has.
Wrens Right Hand
July 31st, 2009
3:58 pm
I got more coming guys
AlabamaBrave
July 31st, 2009
3:58 pm
BravesFanChris24
July 31st, 2009
3:56 pm
We can only hope.
THWG
July 31st, 2009
3:58 pm
This is pretty silly. Not gonna lie.
Rob in Fayetteville
July 31st, 2009
3:58 pm
If all the Braves get is Roachy in this, then it is indeed a head scratcher…..you don’t disrupt the kind of chemistry the Braves created in the past month unless there’s something that really improves the club. It’s the Braves’ loss, in my opinion, if this Kotchman for Roachy trade goes through. This only gives the Braves another high strikeout, occasional power guy, when we had a Gold Glove caliber 1B who makes good contact, and was beginning to show some pop as well…..
FaninFaytown
July 31st, 2009
3:58 pm
Honestly, regardless of stats or anything else… i HATE watching laroche hit lol
HeywardTheFuture
July 31st, 2009
3:58 pm
Kotch killed us.
Good job Frank!
PWHjort
July 31st, 2009
3:58 pm
LOL at homer coming in with his usual “Fire DOB”.