12:27 pm July 31, 2009, by Carroll Rogers
Rob from SC
July 31st, 20091:48 pm
Adrian Gonzalez is a .260 hitter. Yes he has power, but nowhere near good enough for what the Padres are demanding.
I’m “drinking the koolaid” because I say Obama is an intelligent human being? Yeah, OK buddy. And what conclusions can you draw from my personality by me stating Obama is an intelligent person? That’s right, nothing. For the record I didn’t vote for Obama and don’t agree with a lot of what he’s doing. But he’s smart. Smarter than you or me or probably anyone else that posts in this space. It has nothing to do with whether you like his political agenda or not (I don’t like most of it). You don’t get to be president if you’re an idiot. So don’t be a f****** dumbass and say he’s an idiot then attack me when I point out you’re wrong.
True Blue – don’t know where you saw that the Dodgers got Halladay but it’s nowhere in the AP
Shin Soo Choo! Shin Soo Choo! Shin Soo Choo! Come on Frankie…Get him!
July 31st, 20091:49 pm
The Indians are rebuilding; why on earth would they trade a good cheap outfielder
July 31st, 20091:50 pm
unless shaffer shows something different he isnt the answer. Its not like he was just not getting on base. He was a strike out machine.
Time is clicking. Hopefully, something is done. A bullpen arm would be a start.
July 31st, 20091:51 pm
People that can’t spell “Schafer” shouldn’t be allowed to talk about him.
Time is ticking* ~_~
July 31st, 20091:52 pm
I’m pretty sure that given the economy and his injury history that Soriano would be pretty happy getting a deal like Fuentes or Wood got last year. If he gets in the neighborhood of $10-12 per I don’t think he can expect anything more than two years with maybe an option like Fuentes got. My guess is a 2 year deal in the $9-10 per range, or 3 years in the $7-8 mil per range.
Thanks for reminding me! I gotta check foxsports.com for a post-game interview. I’d really like to hear what he said. So did Jerome interview him on the field?
Also, a little trivia here, those RBI’s of his in the 10th were his FIRST in his MLB career…..in extra innings.
Yikes…I knew his AVG and stuff in extras weren’t spectacular, but… indeed!
I’ve got a BS in economics from MIT, and a Masters from Harvard. Can I talk about Obama’s intelligence?
LOL. That’s all a lie, but I just thought I’d have a little fun…
Nova Scotia Steve
We need to beat Jason Schimdt tonight badly…
Rob from SC -
Adrian Gonzalez would benefit greatly from being traded. I’m not saying that he would go froma .260 hitter to a .320 hitter, but two things that a trade will give him:
1.) A better lineup in which to hit, giving him better pitches to hit
2.) A better park in which to hit.
If he were to be traded to a contender, I can see him hitting for 20 to 30 point higher in his BA.
Andrew in P-tang
July 31st, 20091:53 pm
braves wont do anything
July 31st, 20091:54 pm
Manny Ramirez likes men
July 31st, 20091:56 pm
That’s A-Gon’s problem. Reason why some say he’s overrated due to his low average is because of what lineup he’s in. I mean seriously, look at Pads lineup. Put A-Gon in a Yankee or a Red Sox or even a Braves lineup, I’m sure his average would be much better and his would probably be able to hit more HRs.
Red Sox To Acquire Victor Martinez
By Tim Dierkes [July 31 at 12:55pm CST]
USA Today’s Bob Nightengale via Twitter: the Red Sox are about to acquire Victor Martinez from the Indians.
“USA Today’s Bob Nightengale via Twitter: the Red Sox are about to acquire Victor Martinez from the Indians.”
This made sense. It’s like they have too many prospects. They needed to do “something” to upgrade their team. I wonder if they gave up Buchholz. I would think they would of had to, but ya just never know.
Marc from Florida, I agree with everything you have said about the players and the payroll. The future is looking good, and we may have enough this year. A little bullpen help couldn’t hurt, but I don’t want to give much away.
I don’t agree about the steroids. I think it taints the game, and nullifies the records. It also is a terrible example for the kids. However, I know I am an old fart.
July 31st, 20091:58 pm
seriously, don’t bring politics over to this blog too. end it now.
rob from scAdrian Gonzalez is a .260 hitter. Yes he has power, but nowhere near good enough for what the Padres are demanding.
but what are they asking for exactly? and from looking at his stats, its looks like adrian gonzalez is a little bit better than ryan howard. thats a pretty big bat, no?
July 31st, 20091:59 pm
Two hours left…
July 31st, 20092:01 pm
I’m talking about the man not his methods.
N8, BravesFanChris24 and others,
Most of the teams in the Wild Card hunt are over-performing their preseason projections and they aren’t particularly under-performing based their run differential. The Cubs are really the only team that has under-performed preseason expectations, but in hindsight I don’t think it’s a huge surprise that the Cubs are where they are given that they are relying on lots of veterans slightly past normal peak age.
What does all of that mean? Well, it means that none of the teams in the Wild Card hunt are likely to go on an extreme tear, and run away and hide. This is a big reason I think the Braves have just as good a shot as any team to pull it out even with the roster as is.
Again, the Braves spent most of the year with guys like Francoeur, Johnson and Schafer in the everyday lineup and they still kept pace.
MLBTRADERUMORS said that GM’s are saying the Padres want 3 times what Toronto wanted for Halladay.
July 31st, 20092:02 pm
For the last time, Schafer is INJURED. You can’t hit with a severely injured wrist.
Marc from Fla
It is the media that won’t stop with all the dang steroids talk. These lists were not suppossed to be made public, which is why most of the athletes probably agreed to get tested. But magically somehow the media finds a way. Selig doesn’t know what day it is anyways.
I agree, tired of all the banter.
July 31st, 20092:03 pm
I had to get it out at least once…it’ll be the last time for today
holy balls, Cody Johnson strikes out a ton!… he has a solid OPS with tons of pop, but really?
128 k’s in 339 ABs? wow.
roc from sc, haha, gotcha. he wont be traded, then.
If Cleveland trades Victor Martinez to Boston and does not get Buchholz back, their GM better get fired now
July 31st, 20092:04 pm
well said nova scotia steve, well said sir
While you bring up a good point there, it doesn’t mean anything concrete really. Anything can happen in baseball. I’m not discrediting your point with the projections, but that doesn’t exactly mean some of the teams can’t go on a tear.
See Rockies in 07 for prime example.
Adrian Gonzalez isn’t just a little bit better than Ryan Howard. He’s a whole heck of a lot better than Ryan Howard. Even armed with Citizens’ Bank Park, Howard’s OWin% is .650 opposed to Gonzalez’s .684 (having to play in Petco). Gonzalez has hit .262/.371/.599 away from Petco this year. And OPS+ favors Gonzalez by 26 points (130 to 156). Howard is good at hitting home runs, that’s about it. Adrian Gonzalez is good at many other things. And the defense!
July 31st, 20092:05 pm
Shapiro in Cleveland has a pretty good track record of getting prospects that turned out to be pretty good. Shapiro’s job is not going to be in jeopardy.
And even Rays last year.
Red Sox are about to acquire V-Mart, where the heck are they going to play him?
July 31st, 20092:06 pm
PWHjort, i agree.
July 31st, 20092:07 pm
V-Mart likely to catch and 1B. LaRoche could give V-Mart a day or so off.
Why? What if they get Bowden and Lars Anderson instead? Or Bard/Masterson/Tazawa/Reddick/Westmoreland. Buchholz isn’t the only premium piece in their system. I personally like Bowden better. And it isn’t like the Indians are going to be competitve through the life of V-Mart’s contract. Might as well move him for as much as you can get now. Even if that isn’t Buchholz.
I think the plan is to let V-Mart replace Varitek next year
July 31st, 20092:08 pm
A fair trade for the Red Sox and Padres would be
San Diego Gets:
It would be a shame for the Braves to do nothing while the division and wild card are up for grabs.. With the current team they are not going to win either one.. We need a power bat to put in between Chipper and Mac and until we do that, we are nothing more then mediocre..
This team has shown in the last few weeks that we can be very good, and also very bad.. We have some holes to fill and if we don’t fill them, it just tells the fans that they aren’t serious about winning this year..
As for Furcal, I hope he gets booed heavily each and every time he is up to bat.. The guy deserves it after what he did to us this past off season..
July 31st, 20092:09 pm
Big talent difference between Buchholz and Bowden
BravesFanChris24, right. Anything can happen in baseball but that doesn’t mean it’s likely to. It’s just as likely that the Braves will be the team to go on a tear. No one can predict the future. The best anyone can do is take all the available data and try to make the best guess of what is likely to happen. And clearly the best guess of what is likely to happen is that the Braves remain right there with the other Wild Card contenders, which means they are just as likely as the others to win the thing.
No, Shapiro’s job won’t be in jeopardy, but there are plenty of Indians fans who wish it would be if he trades away Martinez to the Red Sox. Plenty around here still fuming over the Cliff Lee trade.
Speaking of Mark Shapiro, I have an interesting story. Three years ago I decided to quit my job because I was traveling about 90% of the time. While I was looking for a new job that summer (’06) I decided to work at DirecTV over the summer to do something fun. (A guy I knew met a TON of women at DirecTV and had a great time during the summer months…ya, I know, but that is not part of this story.) I actually got a service call to go out to Shapiro’s house. He was not there, just his wife. At first, it did not hit me who he was until I went in to his office as saw all the pictures and memorabilia. His wife was a really nice woman…
July 31st, 20092:10 pm
It’s too bad the Braves had to play the Pirates early in the season, when they actually had some players.
Here’s hoping that San Diego trades their whole major league team at the deadline. That would give the Braves six easy games in the second half.
July 31st, 20092:11 pm
Braves are getting two relievers here very soon, my sources say so.
July 31st, 20092:12 pm
Trading Adrian Gonzalez opens 1B for Blanks
Hmm…foxsports.com doesn’t have any new video up yet. I’m sure this will be one time when they don’t post anything.
July 31st, 20092:13 pm
Yes, there’s a talent gap between Buchholz and Bowden. But I’d rather build my rotation with Bowden, more mature, smarter, doesn’t get nibbler’s fever, isn’t going to be inconsistent, and has a better chance of panning out as an above-average starter. Even if his ceiling isn’t that of Buchholz’s.
Good point there. The difference is though, the teams ahead have done something to further their chances. If Braves don’t, then that decreases their chances in my opinion. Unless like I said, Hudson and Infante are those sparks, but that doesn’t appear likely, especially coming from two injuries.
…Shapiro’s wife was telling me about cool stories with the club and stuff like that. (Nothing non G-rated.)
abwright… you really think that is a good thing?
*See record vs. Nationals*
July 31st, 20092:14 pm
If you ever get tired of blogging, you might have a future as an adult movie screenplay writer.
Original Jon- shut up, you have no sources.
PWHjort, Buchholz has a higher ceiling than Bowden. Bowden is a #3, at best, from what I’ve read. Buchholz has the ability to be a frontline guy.
Yes it was Jerome on the field IIRC. Just a short bit, but with intensity.
July 31st, 20092:16 pm
I don’t think the division is up for grabs but the Wild Card definitely is.
However, no need to grab a great bat (unless the Braves can get one a pennies on the dollar, which isn’t likely). Again, the Braves kept pace in the Wild Card with the likes of Francoeur, Kelly Johnson having a down year and Schafer in the lineup everyday. They certainly have a decent shot at the Wild Card without making a drastic move that could compromise their future.
DOB The Joke
1st DOB is a joke!
2nd You guys should check out the message boards at atlantabraves.com where you can actually go to the topic you want to discuss.
3rd Those dogging on KK are NOT smart about baseball. In 19 starts KK has only given up more than 3 earned runs 4 times. That’s right, 15 of 19 starts with 3 earned runs or less. If you don’t think that is worth 8 million on the FA market then you are hollow between the ears.
Andrew in P-tang, wow, such violent behavior, what a douchebag move that was on your part. Jerk.
“Braves are getting two relievers here very soon, my sources say so.”
I’ll believe it when I see it. Not discrediting you or your sources ~_~
Chop Chop -
Everything was G-rated with Shapiro’s wife, she was a nice woman that told me some cool stories. Can’t say the same about all the women I met over the few months I did that job though……
Anyone on here on Facebook???
July 31st, 20092:17 pm
See my 2:13.
And yes, I do have sources, A-hole
July 31st, 20092:18 pm
Stop crying like a little girl Jon.
I have a feeling Shapiro didn’t get Buchholz in the deal.
wish we kept Charlie Morton
Marc from FL
July 31st, 20092:19 pm
For those of you responding to the steroid comments earlier. I agree completly that it’s a bad example, but at the same time, I don’t think any of these info coming out should really be *new* news, I just think this is Bud Selig milking it for everything it’s worth, that and a baseball media that’s trying to talk about something “different” for a change. Worst possible day though, this is the 3rd most exciting day during the regular season and most of what I’ve heard today is steroid talk by baseball media.
To the Adrian responses… I’m a little biased against Adrian probably, and made that comparison cause he’s basically an Adam Laroche with a little more pop. However, take him out of the Padre’s stadium half of the year and he might flourish. Still though, if that is the case we all know the Braves would fork up the money to lock him up long-term, and then we don’t have Kotchman, Freeman, or Gonzalez…
what names are you hearing
BravesFanChris24, yeah, now, I never said Braves were trading for 2 relievers, I said they were getting to relievers very soon. meaning Hudson coming back moving Kawakami to the pen and Buddy Carlyle. Oh, and a-hole in P-Tang, my sources are DOB and Carroll. Douchebag.
July 31st, 20092:20 pm
Adult films featuring the Indians’ GM’s wife are G-rated? Wow…
And Carroll, get with you IT staff and see what they can do to make it so comments can be edited, please, thanks bunches!
Why dont you stop acting all bad behind your computer screen you little bitch and go pop your zits before your Mom gets home so she can apply the Proactiv to your face. You puss.
July 31st, 20092:22 pm
ouch it must be easy to get under original jon’s skin…what a wuss..original jon has no sources
See, if you would have read my post and understood it, then you would know I never once said Braves were trading for relief help. I said, and I quote “Braves are GETTING two relievers here very soon, my sources say so.” Nowhere does it say trade or whatnot, it says getting.
July 31st, 20092:23 pm
Much deeper than that. DOMINICAN SUMMER LEAGUE.
Original Jon… how do you expect people to take that comment on the day of the TRADE deadline?
Again, Andrew, if you would have read my original post and not acted like a douchebag mother f&^ker, then you would have understood what I was saying, but you didnt bother and you jumped the gun.
Kawakami/Carlyle to bullpen doesn’t sound that bad, but it’s not a sure thing for effectiveness and having to wait for Hudson is also not a good for that to happen.
I’d rather have a bullpen arm that you acquire in trade they can have now, then have KK and Carlyle. That way, you won’t have to wait too long for it to be too late.
If that happens, then the bullpen could be in decent shape.
However, that would leave a hole in the offense, unless Infante could be that spark.
July 31st, 20092:24 pm
stop acting important jon
Drew, exactly how it was written.
Tigers get Washburn, that’s a deal that makes sense, he’s a good fit with them.
You did say getting, but it could imply trading for.
Im not acting important, stop acting like I give a crap about what you say.
No. 5 JASON HEYWARD, RF
Team: Double-A Mississippi (Southern)
Why He’s Here: .455/.500/.818 (10-for-22), 2 2B, 2 HR, 8 RBIs, 6 R, 3 BB, 5 SO
The Scoop: In a week and a half, Heyward will blow out the candles on his 20th birthday cake, but he probably won’t have to wait until his 21st birthday to reach the major leagues given his current pace. Heyward, the No. 1 prospect in baseball, is hitting .416/.495/.714 with 13 walks and nine strikeouts in 22 games with Mississippi. Heyward’s offensive tools and feel for the strike zone are already outstanding, but the scary thing is that he’s still a little less than a decade away from his peak years.
Jon needs block from the blog until he comes off the roid rage.
July 31st, 20092:25 pm
Braves are GETTING HAHA HOW FUNNY never said TRADE
Get a life bro
wow, dodgers really trying to strengthen their pen…hard after heath bell as well…oh well, at least we have buddy carlyle coming back…not much more we could ask for really…
Just because you all take it that way doesnt mean thats what i was saying.
I am my own sources
LOL, laughable at best.
July 31st, 20092:26 pm
ROB from SC:
Thank you. CM continues his uneven pace for the PIRATES, but is vastly improved this year over last. He’s going to make a solid middle of the rotation guy for them. And if he really steps up his game in a couple years, he’s off to the RED SOX or YANKEES.
What have the teams ahead of the Braves in the Wild Card race done to make themselves significantly more talented than the Braves?
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t blame a team like the Giants for trying to improve their offense with Garko and Sanchez. Absolutely the right moves for them when they gave up expendable pieces and improving even by a few runs could mean the difference in winning the Wild Card and losing.
But the moves that the teams made don’t make them significantly more talented than the current Braves roster.
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