A dastardly ump and the Braves
Fort Lauderdale – A figurative fist-bump to all as we prepare for tonight’s Braves-Marlins series finale while also listening to televised fallout from news that the heart of the 2004 World Series champion Boston lineup was (allegedly) ‘roided up at least during the previous season.
As you’ve surely heard by now, The New York Times reported today that Manny Ramirez (no surprise) and David Ortiz (mildly surprising, given his strong aniti-roid comments) were among the 100 or so players who tested positive in 2003, a list that was supposed to remain anonymous, but of course has not.
That’s four named so far, Manny and Big Papi joining A-Rod and Sammy Sosa. Maybe they’re being leaked by nationality, with all the Dominicans up first? No? Hey, just a reckless, unsubstantiated theory (those are big these days on blogs, Twitters, et al).
(Timeout: I keep getting asked if I think any Braves will be on the list. Hey, just over 100 players on the list, and there’s 30 major league teams, so there’s certainly a reasonable chance that EVERY team had at least one on the list. If there were one or more Braves on it, it also wouldn’t surprise me if those players have moved on to other teams since. But again, nothing is going to shock me anymore regarding positive steroid tests. Well, nothing except Greg Maddux or David Eckstein being linked to ‘roid use. Beyond that, nothing.)
Where were we? Oh, yes. Red Sox Nation weeps a bit today, right? Or mourns. Or, maybe it says “To hell with it, the Evil Empire was [allegedly] ‘roided up, too.” I don’t know. Probably some of all those reactions.
I’m also wondering if a few of those formerly long-suffering Red Sox fans who were said to have died content in the months after that Red Sox finally won the World Series, if some of those good folks are rolling over in their graves today. Or maybe they won’t believe the news unless it’s confirmed by NESN broadcasters?
These are the questions that linger in the air. But that’s in the New England air.
Here in the thick, humid air of South Florida, the questions we have are: 1. Will the Braves feel urgency to make a move given the losses the past two days and the fact that both NL leader Philly and wild-card leader San Fran made significant trades yesterday; and 2. Is Bill Hohn the Braves’ own Snidely Whiplash? Or is the ump with the bushy moustache just an irascible sort who doesn’t care that Bobby Cox (also irascible, occasionally) is going to the Hall of Fame someday, and isn’t going to give him or his Braves an inch of leeway when it comes to arguments, whether or not Hohn was picking a fight with a good Irish lad (Eric O’Flaherty) on June 21, or calling a pitch a strike last night against Brian McCann that appeared to be six to 10 inches outside?
Whew, that was quite a long question. As for the first question, I don’t know if the Braves are going to do a deal, but it sure sounds like they’re prepared to stand pat unless one really strikes them as something that could help put them over the top while not forcing them to mortgage the future. I talked to Frank Wren this afternoon, and here’s what I wrote for a story on our website while ago:
With the Friday trade deadline looming and division leader Philadelphia having bolstered its pitching staff, the Braves seem prepared to stand pat and see if they can make a postseason push without spending more money or dealing away more prospects.
On Wednesday, the Phillies traded four minor-leaguers to Cleveland for left-hander Cliff Lee, the 2008 American League Cy Young Award winner, and NL wild-card leader San Francisco traded for Pittsburgh second baseman Freddy Sanchez, a former batting champion.
The Braves believe their recent resurgence – despite losses the past two nights at Florida – was an indication of what they’re team is capable of doing the rest of the season. But they haven’t stopped looking, just in case a deal pops up in the next 24 hours or so.
”We continue to look at trade possibilities,” general manager Frank Wren said, “but with the return of [Tim] Hudson and [Omar] Infante and the way our club is pitching and swinging the bat, we haven’t found a move that would make an impact for us.”
The Braves are counting on Hudson (elbow surgery) and utility man Infante (broken hand) returning from the disabled list in mid-August, with Hudson expected to move back into the starting rotation. Infante hit .349 in 86 at-bats before he got hurt, including .385 against lefties.
Despite a lefty-heavy lineup, the Braves are 15-10 against lefty starting pitchers. They have a 7-2 record against the Phillies, who now have four lefties in their starting rotation.
The Braves lead the NL with a .293 batting average in July and trail only the Phillies in runs scored for the month. Braves pitchers are tied with the Phillies for the third-best July ERA (3.30) in the league, and their 15-10 record is tied for third in the NL this month behind the Cubs (17-8) and Phillies (19-6).
I f the Braves make a move before Friday’s 4 p.m. non-waiver trade deadline, it might be to pick up another reliever. Their bullpen has been solid, but there’s been a lot of mileage put on the top four contributors this season: Rafael Soriano, Mike Gonzalez, Eric O’Flaherty and Peter Moylan.
The Braves’ confidence climbed while winning eight of their first 11 games after the All-Star break. But since then they’ve lost the first two games of a three-game series against the Florida Marlins that concludes tonight in Miami.
Those losses dropped them to 8-1/2 games behind the Philadelphia and two behind Florida in the NL East standings, and to four games behind San Francisco in the wild-card standings. The Braves are tied with Houston for fifth in the wild-card race.
Now, as for the Hohn question, I really don’t know what’s up with that dude. He’s thrown out five Braves in two games (well, that includes Cox twice) in the past six weeks, and he had a memorable toss-a-thon on a hot day in Atlanta a few years back. (Maybe is the heat and humidity that triggers him? No, wait, it wasn’t hot and humid in Boston on June 21 … when he threw out an Irishman in freakin’ Boston!)
Dastardly ump: Yer outta here!
Hey, maybe he just doesn’t care that Cox is nearing the end of his career and that some umps might give the venerable manager a little more leeway when he comes out to, uh, discuss matters.
Whatever it is, we’re going to see today if any Braves were offended after they either saw (Chipper saw it) or heard about the fist-bump that Hohn did with Marlins catcher John Baker after Nate McLouth struck out to end last night’s 6-3 Braves loss.
My guess is that Baker initiated it and surprised Hohn when he turned around with his fist out, so much so that the ump reacted without thinking and gave him a fist-bump that was caught on TV. I’m also thinking that Hohn probably regrets doing it, whether he’ll say so or not, especially since it was shown on the broadcast and much has been made of it in places like this since last night. And it won’t surprise me if he declines to talk about it tonight, either.
I asked a Braves official about it in an e-mail today and got no response. It’s one of those touchy subjects where you want to watch what you say publicly, and instead address the matter privately through proper channels, such as the league’s supervisor of umpires.
But just so you guys (and ladies) know, it’s common for catchers and other players to talk to the umpires. You see them doing it on the bases all the time, and between innings. It’s just that usually, a catcher might say behind his mask, at the end of a game like last night, “Good job” to the umpire, or whatever. Nothing scandalous, just letting Blue know you appreciated his work, etc., and staying on his good side for the future. Happens all the time.
Another day, another toss-a-thon....
But Baker was out of line, if you ask me, in doing it via a fist-bump that was seen by TV viewers and at least one Braves player, and has probably been relayed to other Braves players and the coaching staff since last night.
Hohn should have said thanks and waved off the fist-bump gesture. But then, that moustache might be evidence enough to suggest he’s not a man obsessed with presenting a good-guy image.
♣ Etc.
– It’s not been a good trip for Brian McCann. He went 3-for-4 with two doubles, a homer and two RBIs on Sunday at Milwaukee, but is 1-for-18 with one double and no walks in the other four games vs. the Brewers and Marlins.
— After going 10-3 while averaging 5.7 runs during July 7-22, the Braves are 2-4 with 26 runs in their past six games, and 19 of those runs came in the two wins in that stretch. They scored 1, 0, 3 and 3 runs in the four losses.
– Garret Anderson has hit .346 with seven homers, 24 RBI and a .934 OPS in his past 42 games, including .418 (23-for-55) with four homers and 10 RBI in his past 15 games.
— Since returning from the minors, Kelly Johnson is 5-for-6 with two doubles, a triple, a homer and two RBIs, with one walk and one strikeout.
OK, gotta get to the multi-purpose facility known as Land Shark. Here’s a great old tune that I was thinking about only because The Pogues do a great cover of it on the box set that I’ve been listening to in my rental car, a four-disc set filled with outtakes and unreleased Pogues gems (it’s f called Look Them Straight In The Eye and Say … Pogue Mahone.)
Shane and the Pogues, not Rod
“MAGGIE MAY” by Rod Stewart & Martin Quittenton
Wake up Maggie I think I got something to say to you
It`s late September and I really should be back at school
I know I keep you amused but I feel I`m being used
Oh Maggie I couldn`t have tried any more
You lured me away from home just to save you from being alone
You stole my heart and that`s what really hurt
The morning sun when it`s in your face really shows your age
But that don`t worry me none in my eyes you`re everything
I laughed at all of your jokes my love you didn`t need to coax
Oh, Maggie I couldn`t have tried any more
You lured me away from home, just to save you from being alone
You stole my soul and that`s a pain I can do without
All I needed was a friend to lend a guiding hand
But you turned into a lover and
mother what a lover, you wore me out
All you did was wreck my bed
and in the morning kick me in the head
Oh Maggie I couldn`t have tried anymore
You lured me away from home `cause you didn`t want to be alone
You stole my heart I couldn`t leave you if I tried
I suppose I could collect my books and get on back to school
Or steal my daddy`s cue and make a living out of playing pool
Or find myself a rock and roll band that needs a helpin` hand
Oh Maggie I wish I`d never seen your face
You made a first-class fool out of me
But I`m as blind as a fool can be
You stole my heart but I love you anyway
Maggie I wish I`d never seen your face
I`ll get on back home one of these days
2,426 comments Add your comment
Mitchie-san
July 30th, 2009
2:34 pm
First?
Mitchie-san
July 30th, 2009
2:36 pm
Whoa….
nfieldr
July 30th, 2009
2:37 pm
Second? Always wanted to do that
eyy
July 30th, 2009
2:42 pm
(So that is doesn’t go unnoticed from the old blog):
DOB: Any idea why Zeke Spruill was sent to the GCL today? Certainly its not a performance-based demotion, right?
Hillbilly
July 30th, 2009
2:43 pm
DOB,
I watched Shotgun Stories on Sundance last night. I’ll say is was very good, not great. Very accurate depiction of the South-Eastern part of Arkansas. The dialogue was spot-on for our state, and the scenery was well-displayed. Good performances by the actors, but I liked it for the local feel. And you can’t go wrong when Ben Nichols is involved. Thanks or the recommendation.
kdbanks
July 30th, 2009
2:45 pm
Best move Wren could make right now is dropping Norton and calling up Conrad.
HeywardTheFuture
July 30th, 2009
2:47 pm
Kotchman kills us.
mike28212
July 30th, 2009
2:47 pm
I seem to recall that the second base umpire approached Anderson after he doubled following McCain’s at bat. I wondered at the time if he was asking Garrett what happened since he was at bat during the altercation between Hohn and Cox. I have no way of knowing if that was the discussion or if an umpire would even do that. I thought maybe he was as confused as everyone else as to why Hohn took out the line up card.
Shamus Thacker
July 30th, 2009
2:49 pm
Nice Blog DOB
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
2:52 pm
Thanks for the new Blog, Chief! very int’resting stuff in there.
Mr. Hohn has way to short a fuse, IMHO…I’ve seen Bobby throw his hands in the air in the dugout over calls all the time, and the umps just let it go. Ho ho! But not Billy the Kid…always gotta be starting something. He seems to be a smart aleck…
And I don’t know if it was the best idea for BMac to continue the argument in between innings, but I sure cann understand why he was ticked! But in his AB, did he have to ground into a double-play? Of all the things he could have done…
It’s not been a good trip for Brian McCann.
No, it hasn’t…jeepers! It’s been pretty awful. And even when he has a good game he GDP with the bases loaded…
Ron Paul's Campaign for Liberty
July 30th, 2009
2:53 pm
I’ve seen replays of the strike call on McCann and it was clearly outside. Not sure if you know this or not Dave, but, isn’t Hohn more accountable with the league now, with QuestTec or whatever system is in place? And to hear of the fist-bumb now….not happy and can only imagine how the players feel! Reminds me of Eric Gregg in the playoffs against the Marlins…made Livan Hernendez look like Greg Maddux!
Wayne in Utah
July 30th, 2009
2:54 pm
Is there really new bloggage again? I expect not.
Shamus, quit sucking up!
Nice Blog DOB!
semiballcoach
July 30th, 2009
2:54 pm
billy hohn was the model for mario bros
Where is the Blog?
July 30th, 2009
2:56 pm
am i getting blog blind or something???
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
2:56 pm
semiballcoach–
Mama mia!
ray k.
July 30th, 2009
2:57 pm
DOB, I agree that Hohn should have declined Baker’s extended fist, but that would have demanded he assess the situation and make a split second decision on whether it’s out of bounds or not. I am trying to think of an occupation that would demand such reflexive acuity… hmmm……
There’s a nice discussion about the fist bump and my take on why Hohn’s actions are punishable at http://tomahawktake.com/
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
3:02 pm
Hello? Is mine just not refreshing?
18 Wheels of Love
July 30th, 2009
3:04 pm
Who’s on first?
brian
July 30th, 2009
3:04 pm
hey DOB – can I assume that this is the new bloggage?
Wayne in Utah
July 30th, 2009
3:05 pm
McFann
Lunch Menu
Wheat Bread, Mayo, Two slices of Chicken Breast (covering ALL the bread completely), two slices of yellow cheese (not white), and 3 slices of fresh tomato from my garden, with a liberal amount of salt and pepper!
Enjoy!
PS: There is a blue jay on my deck. He doesn’t know that there is a killer in the vicinity!
nemov
July 30th, 2009
3:05 pm
I have felt all season the Braves are a year away. It’s a sad waste of a great pitching staff, but the team is too far in the hole to make the playoffs. This push should have come in June. The Phillies have run away with thing and overcoming 4 other teams in the wild card chase isn’t likely. The Bravos would have to play lights out for the rest of the season. I just think this team has it in them
Shamus Thacker
July 30th, 2009
3:06 pm
I’m so confused
brian
July 30th, 2009
3:07 pm
so LaTroy Hawkins is in trouble for saying to an ump that he wanted the Cubs to win. No or very few fans heard this but the league is looking at this as a serious matter. Billy Hohn’s actions against the Braves speak for themselves – in Boston and last night – bad calls, baiting the Braves and Bobby Cox, and the now infamous fist bump. If a Brave said that Hohn was hoping the Marlin’s won last night they should not face any disciplinary action – just show a tape of the awful calls, the baiting of Bobby Cox, and the fist bump with the Marlin’s catcher as the game ended.
Terrible.
I hope somebody in the league holds him accountable
Jay212033
July 30th, 2009
3:07 pm
Honestly I don’t think the Braves could do much to improve this team. As much as I like Javy and what he has done for the team this season I think we need to trade him now at the peak of his value. Tampa has really been looking for SP and RP and we have both we could trade them. Javy Vazquez and Mike Gonzalez for Andy Sonnenstine, Desmond Jennings and Jacob McGee would be awesome.
nemov
July 30th, 2009
3:08 pm
Meanwhile the Mets have won 5 in a row. If you told me a week ago that would would be closer to the Mets in the standings than the Marlins I wouldn’t have believed it.
Wayne in Utah
July 30th, 2009
3:09 pm
A couple of brave magpie’s also treading on Paco’s domain. I miss the Cardinal’s from central Illinois.
BravoMan
July 30th, 2009
3:11 pm
Snidley Whiplash!!!! Hahahahahahahahahah looks just like him.
Now that’s awesome DOB.
Shamus Thacker
July 30th, 2009
3:12 pm
DOB: NEW BLOGGAGE
Look what we’ve done folks…
We’ve driven him batty, he’s become and idiot….
Welcome Aboard DOB!
SmittyNJ
July 30th, 2009
3:14 pm
Great blog today.. Good theory on Hohn getting caught off guard by Baker on the fist bump. We’re all overlooking what a diss move that was BY Baker though. Hmmm Chipper tells Javy to buzz him today?
C
July 30th, 2009
3:16 pm
It was very obvious that this guy had it out for the Braves. I have never seen an umpire act the way this fool does. He is trying to make the show all about him. If he is down the third base line tonight it might be a short night for Chipper. Can you get thrown out of a game before a game even starts?
Russell
July 30th, 2009
3:16 pm
Has anyone noticed that our leadoff hitter (McCloth) has the lowest batting average (.261) of any Braves regular? The 2nd lowest OBP (.348) of any regular? Only ahead .001 of Kotchman in OBP (.347).
I like McCloth, but I don’t see how those numbers can justify using him in the leadoff postion.
Knowitall
July 30th, 2009
3:17 pm
Ha! Posting the message “New Bloggage” on the new blog while people continue to read the old blog……..priceless!
Art Vandelay
July 30th, 2009
3:17 pm
Someone fill me in on the lineup card story — I didn’t get to see the game last night, but I’m not at all surprised that Super Mario (hat tip to blogger on Schultz’s column for that one) would toss out Cox & McCann.
chilidog75
July 30th, 2009
3:17 pm
I am shocked —- SHOCKED I tell ya —- that David Ortiz used roids.
Simply stunning.
I mean, he goes from a light-hitting platoon player with Minnesota to a first-ballot Hall of Famer (well, not anymore) in the span of a year. Crazy that he didn’t just make that happen with “hard work.”
I wonder if Red Sox fans feel any different about those two World Series titles now. I’m thinking probably not.
chilidog75
July 30th, 2009
3:19 pm
Russell, who would you use then?
The offense has fared pretty well with him batting leadoff. The rest of the guys seem quite comfortable with where they’re hitting in the lineup.
raleighbravesfan
July 30th, 2009
3:20 pm
C – You CAN get thrown out before the game starts.
What was with Hohn and the score cards last night? That is one dude on the edge.
braves4ever
July 30th, 2009
3:20 pm
Shamus, looks true.
enter the looney bin here———>
Wayne in Utah
July 30th, 2009
3:21 pm
Chilidog
So your saying before he was “Big Papi”, he was “Not So Big Papi”?
Bravedawg
July 30th, 2009
3:22 pm
I’m with chilidog75 – I really hope no one is shocked by Ortiz. In reality, we shouldn’t be shocked by anyone. And as DOB alluded to above, Red Sox fans would probably say “the Yankees were juicing too!” That’s the point – many players were (and probably are) juicing. I guarantee there were/are some Braves juicing. Some former guys seem like prime candidates–Sheffield, Javy, etc. Javy, especially, for the way he came back from nowhere to post monster power numbers.
DOB's Mom
July 30th, 2009
3:22 pm
Remember that Mets team that was just so horrible and fading fast? Yeah, well they are only 1.5 game behind the Braves and possibly only a game back after tonight. I have given up hope this season, you all should too. Thank you Frank Wren for wasting another season and fielding an incompetent team.
Russell
July 30th, 2009
3:22 pm
If the Braves had been using steriods, we would’ve won a few more World Series, had several MVPs, a few more All-Stars, and probably a couple guys capable of hitting more than 20 home runs! Sheffield was the only Brave that I think we can reasonable assume used steriods. Maybe Andruw due to his steep decline.
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
3:23 pm
Good song, DOB.
Bravedawg
July 30th, 2009
3:23 pm
DOB’s Mom – what would you have done differently than Frank to field a “competent” team?
Chop Chop
July 30th, 2009
3:24 pm
B**ches and Moans
(sung to the tune of Sam the Snowman’s “Silver and Gold” from “Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer”)
B**ches and moans, b**ches and moans
Rational people loathe b**ches and moans
Denizens treasure their words
But, damn, this ump-blaming has no f**king worth.
B**ches and moans, b**ches and moans
Don’t mean no less when I see
B**ches and moans fulminating
On every blog I read.
nemov
July 30th, 2009
3:24 pm
Russell: I’ve noticed… McLouth is more suited to bat second. We don’t have real option at leadoff until infante comes back. Infante was having sucess leading off, but I’m not sure who we bench to put him in the lineup.
Russell
July 30th, 2009
3:24 pm
Chilidog – I was using that as an example of how pityful an offensive lineup we have. In this lineup thats about the only place for him. They have been hot in July, but I would bet they won’t continue to hit .290+ the rest of the year.
Hillbilly
July 30th, 2009
3:24 pm
Is Bill Hohn on that infamous 2003 list? Dude’s got some serious rage issues.
semiballcoach
July 30th, 2009
3:26 pm
hohn used to viagara on his mustache in 2003
Russell
July 30th, 2009
3:26 pm
I keep going back to the idea that Frank Wren actually thought that the lineup he had assembled coming out of spring training was enough to make the playoffs! It was obvious that we had a team with zero speed, little power, and only Chipper & McCann who have consistantly hit over .300 for their careers. He was banking on EVERY player in the lineup having a career year!
Brooks Conrad: 14 games, 32 AB, 11 hits, 1 double, 2 triples, 2 home runs, 22 total bases, 8 RBI, .344 Avg, .688 Slug, and 1.070 OPS – sent to the minors in favor of: Greg Norton: .160 average, zero home runs.
What genius made that decision? Wren?
Jaglawyer
July 30th, 2009
3:27 pm
All of this Bill Hohn nonsense could have been avoided if the Braves hadn’t been attacked ala Pearl Harbor.
Some have suggested KK would not thrive in the bullpen. Hell, he only goes 4+ anyway . . . if that.
Just scratch out a win so the suicide watch around here can return to Defcon 3 . . .
Hillbilly
July 30th, 2009
3:27 pm
Wayne you may be on to something. Medium Papi?
woogidy
July 30th, 2009
3:27 pm
I’d say then to you russel that it’s not the amount of times he gets on, but what he does when he gets on. He’s a definite threat to steal his way into scoring position. The possibility of him getting HOME hitting lead off are higher than Kotchman’s and probably most everyone else.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
3:28 pm
Thanks for the blog, DOB.
I think Robert will have a problem with your analogy, because if Hohn is Snidely Whiplash, then is Bobby Cox Dudley Do-Right?
(Nah, he must think Bobby is Horse.)
blueridge
July 30th, 2009
3:28 pm
I’m of the belief, unfortunately, that while the bravos are finally exciting to watch, they are just too little too late to find themselves playing in Oct. I love the rotation of JJ, JV, Hanson, Lowe and Hudson with KK in long relief. But, when Hudson is ready to perform I believe the post season will be out of reach.
I think Wren would be smart to move some of our more desirable arms like MG while they have value to the team and other teams. I am undecided about JV. He has really thrown the ball well this year. I do think there is an opportunity right now for FW to make a couple of moves to sure up the club for the next 3-5 years. It is certainly not an easy decision, and unfortunately the path of least resistance is to not make a move at all.
lee
July 30th, 2009
3:28 pm
8 games back? come on, let’s ‘91 this b!tch.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
3:28 pm
Its so true we have a Frank Drebin following us in at least the last three series.
And it seems to be the Drebin who calls strikes before the ball gets to the catcher…
Braves326
July 30th, 2009
3:29 pm
Huddy can’t return soon enough. KK needs to go to the pen.
Russell
July 30th, 2009
3:29 pm
woogidy – like I said I like McCloth, I just think us having to use him in the leadoff spot shows how little depth our lineup has.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
3:30 pm
I hope to God…Chipper’s name never appears on ANY roid related list…EVER
Fish Bisch
July 30th, 2009
3:30 pm
Sweep tonight!
kelevra
July 30th, 2009
3:31 pm
cubs getting close on grabow, dodgers close on sherrill
Mike S
July 30th, 2009
3:32 pm
Hey, it’s Enrique Palazzo!!
bravossssss
July 30th, 2009
3:32 pm
Russell – is a McCloth like a McDonald’s hankerchief?
Lars Taint
July 30th, 2009
3:32 pm
Russel, you really have some red and blue blinders on if you think Sheffield and possibly Andruw were the only Braves on the juice. How about Javy Lopez, Ryan Klesko, Ken Caminitti, Andres Gallaraga, Vinny Castilla, and Julio Franco to name a few. We also know Dave Justice did when he was with the Yankees, so he may have in Atlanta too. Ron Gant bulked up pretty good from his early days too.
Thrillhouse44
July 30th, 2009
3:32 pm
When did is stop being “knucks” or “daps” and turn into a “fist-bump”? A fist-bump just doesn’t sound like something two men should be doing together. On or off the field.
semiballcoach
July 30th, 2009
3:33 pm
kk is too shaky to put in the pen…try to trade him to AL team since his best 2 starts were against blue jays and i forget the other
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
3:33 pm
This is the least active trade deadline for Atlanta it seems in a long long time…kinda disappointing…but I’m not really that worried about it
Knowitall
July 30th, 2009
3:34 pm
Everybody keeps forgetting about Brett Boone. He’s on that list just below Julio Franco.
Chuck
July 30th, 2009
3:35 pm
It will take a small miracle to get the wild card. I don’t think you get rid of anyone, though. Javy will be great again next year. Braves don’t ever get rid of their best players (and that’s what Javy has been), that’s for the Pirates and Marlins.
I don’t care that Hohn didn’t have the presence of mind to leave the catcher hangin’ on the fist bump, but being a bad umpire should be dealt with. The Braves are known whiners on balls and strikes, and I guess some umps take it personally when bad calls are not ignored. It’s part of the game, but so is working the ump. I can take it more at the professional level than in little leagues! Obviously the tantrum method isn’t working for the Braves, so maybe they should try something else. They sure do seem to be consistently on the wrong side of calls these days.
Chop Chop
July 30th, 2009
3:35 pm
Bill Hohn is a good man off the field.
Check out the photo gallery on that page to see Snidely Whiplash (or Dick Dastardly) being nice.
dmack2027
July 30th, 2009
3:35 pm
KK is too expensive to be a reliever. Only relievers that make that kind of money are closers, and he is not that type of reliever.
I have doubts as to whether the Braves can afford Javy and Huddy. If they can, I think the Braves try to trade KK.
nemov
July 30th, 2009
3:35 pm
What about Rocker? He’s basically the poster child of roid rage.
Marcus Giles
July 30th, 2009
3:36 pm
umm….about the list…errr, never mind.
Hillbilly
July 30th, 2009
3:36 pm
What base will Virgil Earp be umpiring at tonight? 3rd?
Russell
July 30th, 2009
3:37 pm
Lars Taint: You’re exactly right. I agrre with every name you mentioned. I was just thinking within the past few years. But you are right, those guys probably did use the ‘roids.
braves4ever
July 30th, 2009
3:37 pm
Fish Bisch
Sweep tonight! , NO WAY , not after the fishey smell was left on the field last night. Chipper will have and everyone will feed off a get-evenism performance tonight. you can take it to the bank.
Chris
July 30th, 2009
3:38 pm
So the Marlins bean our guy in game one, and last night a fist bump, a fight tonight? Seems just right.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
3:38 pm
Where are all the Kawakrappy lovers today???
The best quote from yesterday “He’s like a monkey playing with a hand gernade”..It so true…always deep in counts…always runners on…and always missing up with his pitches…except for his miracle in Altanta against the Blue Jays.
I don’t think anyone wants this man coming into ballgames late in the game with the score remotely close serving up looping beach balls….like really is the bullpen the spot for this man
So what…he has a nice car….
Tito Fuentes
July 30th, 2009
3:39 pm
Looks like umpire Hohn is a graduate of the Eric Gregg school of umpiring … remember he bragged about his playoff strike zone … Mr Hohn seems eligble for the old NBA Richie Phillips sit down a few yrs back … but would the dear Commissioner do such a thing — David Stern did during playoffs to Phillips … what do you think DOB?
Just a little late....
July 30th, 2009
3:39 pm
THIS JUST IN: Braves trade C Jarrod Saltalamacchia, ss Elvis Andrus, lhp Matt Harrison, lhp Beau Jones and rhp Nefatli Feliz to the Texas Rangers for 1B Mark Teixeira and LHP Ron Mahay
Russell
July 30th, 2009
3:40 pm
Yeah where are all the people who yesterday were saying Kawakami would have his ERA below 4.00 after last nights game? HA! Yeah he’s worth $24 million over 3 years! It was like watching BP last night against him!
Chop Chop
July 30th, 2009
3:40 pm
Bill Hohn has this to say:
The Dude abides. I don’t know about you but I take comfort in that. It’s good knowin’ he’s out there. The Dude. Takin’ ‘er easy for all us sinners.
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
3:40 pm
McLouth is turning into a let-down. I wasn’t sure if I was crazy about the trade to begin with, but was as least optimistic about it. Now I’m not so sure we weren’t taken for suckers.
Jaglawyer
July 30th, 2009
3:40 pm
Hillbilly: The “Virgil Earp” reference is outstanding
Robert
July 30th, 2009
3:41 pm
“Nothing scandalous, just letting Blue know you appreciated his work, etc., and staying on his good side for the future. Happens all the time”
Pray it would ever occur to the donkey managing the Braves to try that approach instead of continually using the time-proven futile tactic or cussing atk, and feuding with, the umps
SmittyNJ
July 30th, 2009
3:41 pm
If you all remember and/or bought into that ‘rumored steroid list’ from last month it had on it: Javy Lopez, Rafael Soriano, Boone, Sheffield, Hampton, Galarraga, and Klesko….
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
3:42 pm
And does anyone find it amusing that we’re hitting home runs finally and it’s costing us games? Now we’re going back to the “sit and wait for a homer” approach. It’s going to kill us.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
3:43 pm
So Russell..
What do you think we can do with him?
I don’t know if anyone would take KK’s salary/contract…I think we’re stuck with him..
Wayne in Utah
July 30th, 2009
3:43 pm
Russell
OK, here is your answer. You seem to think that Frank Wren really screwed up this winter.
First, he did an awesome job on our rotation. (or maybe better stated, the moves he made worked out well, because our starters haven’t been injured and have, for the most part, pitched well)
Second, he did a pretty good job on the bullpen. We have had a couple of meltdowns, and a few pitchers didn’t live up to their potential, but for the most part, they have pitched as we expected them to.
Third, the offense. Of our 8 starters we have changed 3 since the beginning of the year (let’s not go into GA/Diaz platoons and Infante’s time at second). Of the remaining 5, Chipper and Mac have both been a bit disappointing. Not doing badly, but also not doing as well as expected. Escobar, Kotchman and GA/Diaz have done about what was expected.
Now, the other three: KJ, after his hot September, was expected to have a decent year. Started off well, did OK until June then stunk it up. Frenchy was probably a big gamble. Without spending money he didn’t have, Frenchy was counted on and disappointed mightily. To the point of being untradeable, at least until NY got desperate. So Church is better in that he is not as bad as Frenchy was. The Diaz, Church, Anderson triumverate is doing OK.
Schafer was also a wild card. We had him and two journey man replacements in Blanco or JAnderson. Schafer, to everyone’s pleasant suprise, made us all think he was going to put up McLouth like numbers this year.
So, essentially, we missed 2 months of production from CF, 1 month of production from second base, and 3 months of production from RF.
I can see what Frank was thinking and hoping for all facets of the team. Worked OK on 2/3 of the facets, but not with our offense.
So, if everybody had of clicked from the start, we would be getting roughly all year what we are getting right now from our bats. Not too bad, in my opinion.
Let’s just hope it continues. And did you really expect us to hit like the Phillies or Red Sox this year??? I didn’t.
Chop Chop
July 30th, 2009
3:44 pm
Of course, Bill Hohn looks a lot more like Bill Paxton as Morgan Earp.
Braves326
July 30th, 2009
3:44 pm
Oh yeah, we’re stuck with KK for sure.
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
3:44 pm
Bah Smitty, Rafeal Soriano never needed any steroids! He was born with a 97MPH fastball and the Devil’s goatee.
Fish Bisch
July 30th, 2009
3:44 pm
Braves4eva: I doubt it. Not with my main main umping tonight. I would love to give him a fist bump.
kelevra
July 30th, 2009
3:45 pm
confirmed, dodgers got sherrill
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
3:46 pm
Tombstone was such a great movie…man…one of my favorite’s
Vinings Jim
July 30th, 2009
3:47 pm
cabravesfan – since you’re a Chuck fan, I thought I’d point out that blog favorite Yvonne Strahovski turns 27 today – do you remember what it was like when you were that young? (Why do I feel a shot at my age coming?) My daughter sent me some great up close pictures of her from Comic Con last week.
kelevra
July 30th, 2009
3:47 pm
orioles got good team coming very soon (like 2008 rays good)
Rafeal Soriano
July 30th, 2009
3:47 pm
SmittyNJ: If you all remember and/or bought into that ‘rumored steroid list’ from last month it had on it: Javy Lopez, Rafael Soriano, Boone, Sheffield, Hampton, Galarraga, and Klesko….
MFIKY!!
Chuck
July 30th, 2009
3:48 pm
Marcus Giles sure faded when testing started. Javy’s head got stovepipish. Let’s face it, the player’s union and league management created a situation where if you weren’t ‘roiding, you were at a disadvantage. That’s tough for a player that has dedicated his whole life to the sport to back down from.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
3:48 pm
Braves to look for on the ‘roids list – Sheffield and Bret Boone for sure. Then Rocker, Javy Lopez (tho maybe not while in Atlanta), Caminiti, and Andruw
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
3:48 pm
Rafeal a.k.a “The Scowl” a.k.a. “I’ll Kill You” a.k.a “I actually own an AKA” Soriano
Daslied
July 30th, 2009
3:50 pm
NS Steve/Russell -
We’re all still here!
SmittyNJ
July 30th, 2009
3:50 pm
haha Sorry Raffy. How about if I said I don’t believe the list only bc you’re on it….
Marc, born with the goattee….just spit a little water out.. lol.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
3:50 pm
Yeah Marcus Giles too
Couch Tater
July 30th, 2009
3:51 pm
Maybe the Ump was just stoned.
http://www.thehollywoodnews.com/artman2/uploads/1/cheech.jpg
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
3:51 pm
Daslied…
Just a little quiet today…I understand…
That was painful to watch last night…
fifthbusiness
July 30th, 2009
3:52 pm
Why is no one wanting David Ross to catch everyday for them? I would think the Ray’s would be glad to have him.
cabravesfan
July 30th, 2009
3:52 pm
VJ-
Since I was 27 only 3 years ago I remember it well. Question is, do you remember back that far? I imagine it was rough with no electricity or running water.
Anders
July 30th, 2009
3:53 pm
Remember when Caminiti said like 75% or so of the players were roiding and most (including me) scoffed at him? I believe him now.
Him and Canseco weren’t kidding.
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2009
3:54 pm
Kelly’s in the lineup. Don’t have the full lineup yet, going downstairs.
By the way, McCann is 0-for-16 with one walk against the Marlins this season.
DAP
July 30th, 2009
3:54 pm
marc from FLAnd does anyone find it amusing that we’re hitting home runs finally and it’s costing us games?
can you please explain that? hitting homers is costing us games how exactly?
Anders
July 30th, 2009
3:54 pm
Where was all this whining about the unpiring when Glavine was getting strikes called 3 inches off both sides of the plate for 10 years? Ques Tec sure put a damper on the last 5 years of his career.
Russell
July 30th, 2009
3:55 pm
I think Wayne In Utah is really Frank Wren
OICUB12
July 30th, 2009
3:55 pm
Whinning and excuses you’re as bad as the braves announcers
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
3:56 pm
Wayne Wheat Bread, Mayo, Two slices of Chicken Breast (covering ALL the bread completely), two slices of yellow cheese (not white)…
Great job! Gotta get all that meat in there…
I had my usual–Turkey, pickles, and lettuce on a hoagy roll. Hmm…
PS: There is a blue jay on my deck. He doesn’t know that there is a killer in the vicinity!
Uh-oh…he better watch out! Although, blue jays cann be mean if they want to be!
We had a baby hawk in our yard the other day (I say “baby”…he’s on his own, but still has his baby feather-markings–more speckles on his soon-to-be “red” tummy).
Chipper and Mac have both been a bit disappointing. Not doing badly, but also not doing as well as expected.
That’s the truth. I’m starting (”starting”?) to get agitated with them a little bit…what’s the freaking deal, anyway?
Anders
July 30th, 2009
3:56 pm
Apparently McCann is allergic to fish.
Original Jon
July 30th, 2009
3:57 pm
I have to figure Prado is getting the day off because he has played every game since the Braves put Kelly on the DL.
Wanted:
July 30th, 2009
3:57 pm
Put Kotchman’s @$$ on the bench, put Prado at first, and KJ at second. It’s not that hard.
Shamus Thacker
July 30th, 2009
3:57 pm
By the way, McCann is 0-for-16 with one walk against the Marlins this season.
He’s due.
braveswin
July 30th, 2009
3:57 pm
If and that’s a mighty big if MLB has any integrity at all, they will have to discipline Hahn. There is no place in the game EVER for an umpire to fist bump a player. Even if it was an innocent gesture it gives the appearance of being biased. MLB is walking a thin line with the steroid mess and now this jackass makes baseball look like roller derby. If I was the commish he would be looking for a new job today. There is no excuse that anyone can give that would excuse that so called official for that gesture. I get a feeling there will be more ejections tonight.
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
3:57 pm
KJ playing second and Prado 1st perhaps?
AndyC
July 30th, 2009
3:57 pm
I hope to God…Chipper’s name never appears on ANY roid related list…EVER – Nova Scotia Steve
Amen brother. That would be a crushing blow to the organization.
wjones
July 30th, 2009
3:57 pm
“Kotchman kills us”
If you refuse to watch the games, at least look at the box scores.
SmittyNJ
July 30th, 2009
3:58 pm
DOB – KJ in the lineup.
Kotch or Chipper sitting. Has to be.
PWHjort
July 30th, 2009
3:58 pm
Why was Spruill demoted to the GCL?
http://tinyurl.com/l3qcwn
Thrillhouse44
July 30th, 2009
3:59 pm
I guess the whining was busy servicing important clients, Anders.
(kind of sorry about that one, but couldn’t resist.)
Russell
July 30th, 2009
3:59 pm
The truth is that Wren has tried to do the best he can with the funds that have been given him. The real problem with the Braves is the ownership group that refuses to spend what it takes to truly field a contender.
Wanted:
July 30th, 2009
3:59 pm
Kotchman does kill us. If you watch the games you will see that he can’t score runners from third with less than 2-outs.
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
3:59 pm
DOB By the way, McCann is 0-for against the Marlins this season.
Oh! There’s a lovely stat!
Doesn’t surprise me…I hate the Marlins.
Be int’resting to see the lineup. Last time BMac got ejected, he didn’t play the next game, which was a NGADG. But I’m sure he’ll be in there tonight.
Original Jon
July 30th, 2009
3:59 pm
With the way Kotch is swinging the bat and Chipper being Chipper, I have to believe its Prado getting the day off. But maybe not, maybe its Chipper.
Heath
July 30th, 2009
3:59 pm
24 hours and counting until the trade deadline…the result of tonight’s games could determine what the Braves do…
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
4:00 pm
Shamus–
If you click on the link in my last post, you will see–he is BEYOND due against this team…
SmittyNJ
July 30th, 2009
4:00 pm
DOB – How many times was the term ’standing pat’ used today? lol.
Pete Orr
July 30th, 2009
4:01 pm
Players from the 2003 Braves that I wouldn’t be surprised to see on the PED list…
Jaret Wright
Javy Lopez
Marcus Giles
Gary Sheffield
Darren Holmes
Chop Chop
July 30th, 2009
4:01 pm
Nice Cheech pic, Couch Tater.
Hohn was like Cheech on space coke.
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
4:01 pm
Oh, and you’ll notice the Braves did sweep a two game set against the Marlins earlier this year–while BMac was on the DL…
BravesfaninWis
July 30th, 2009
4:02 pm
DOB
Don’t you agree that the Braves have to do something to at least show the fans that they want to go for it this year? The last couple of games have looked like the first half of the season and is a reminder that these Braves can fall on their face at any moment and fall completely out of contention. What do you think?
kelevra
July 30th, 2009
4:02 pm
lol pirates arnt done yet, looking to trade grabow and gorzelanny to the cubs….this is an impressive fire sale. almost the entire 2008 team is gone
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
4:02 pm
Prado’s probably getting the night off. Earned it, too.
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
4:02 pm
kelevra
As long as Arrieta, Tillman, and Matusz turn into above average pitchers, the Orioles will be a very good young team. They just need a young shortstop and they will be set for the near future
OklahomaBrave
July 30th, 2009
4:03 pm
I believe that Baker should get his tower buzzed by a Vazquez 2 seamer tonight. Anyone agree?
Anders
July 30th, 2009
4:04 pm
There was a day when players couldn’t fraternize on the field before games. That’s gone. It was really not acceptable to fraternize during the game either. If it was done it was very discreetly. Today it’s outwardly acceptable. How many times do you see the guy on first watching the signals at third while talking with the first baseman? Then he turns to the 1st base coach to confirm what he thinks he saw or the coach whispers it in his ear. I see this all the time.
David Wright appears to be running for mayor over on third. He pats everyone who arrives. Chats them up etc..Listen, I know their all friends or acquaintances but theior used to be a more professional modicum on the field then what we see today. And this isn’t about sportsmanship.
My point is the one fist pump (while unnacceptable in my eyes) isn’t much different then whats going on all over the field all night.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
4:05 pm
Wanted:
Kotchman w/RISP: .304 BA/.414 OBP
w/RISP and 2 outs: .361 BA/.500 OBP
Maybe you’re not watching enough games.
Daslied
July 30th, 2009
4:05 pm
NS Steve – yeah, he didn’t help us out too much with our argument…We’ll do it again before his next start.
SmittyNJ
July 30th, 2009
4:05 pm
Oklahoma – Absolutely! What a dk move with the fist bump.
Original Jon
July 30th, 2009
4:05 pm
OklahomaBrave, totally agree.
Wayne in Utah
July 30th, 2009
4:07 pm
Russell and Nova Steve
I will not back down guys. Kawakami has been all we could have asked for as our 5th starter. He had a bad month in April, has been shaky, but basically well above league average for a 5th starter since Hanson came on the sceen.
Last night he sucked. Don’t know what to tell ya. Lowe sucked for a few games. Jurrjens had 1-2 bad games. Vazquez, early in the year, was catching a lot of crap due to losing it 1 inning in almost every game he threw.
He just didn’t have it last night. Whether is is hurting or not, he says no. Is he worth 7 million per year? Not MY 7 million. Heck, Prado ain’t worth MY 400K either.
But, sometimes you pay the going price.
I just have vivid memories of last years starters, after the main crew went down. It was Jurrjens, Campillo and pray for rain!
You guys can keep going on with your Kawakrappy bs, but I don’t think FW or BC are disappointed in the overall performance of him.
Just sayin.
Mitchie-san
July 30th, 2009
4:07 pm
The last game before the trade deadline is not the right time to be buzzin heads with fastballs. I am not saying Baker deserves it, but this game is pretty important and we dont need Javy to be thrown out of anything. You can bet the other umps know the Braves are pissed and might be looking for them to retaliate.
Vinings Jim
July 30th, 2009
4:07 pm
Heath – I suspect tonight’s results will have very little effect on Frank Wren unless someone breaks various legs and/or arms.
The Love Child of Dale Murphy and Johnny Cash
July 30th, 2009
4:09 pm
Steriod’s wish they could shoot up some Rafael Soriano!!!!
kelevra
July 30th, 2009
4:09 pm
rob from sc
they just trade sherill for josh bell a stud 3b/ss from the dodgers so yeah the r a 3b or ss away from having young, cheap studs at every position…..if the pitching comes around
Wanted:
July 30th, 2009
4:09 pm
Piedmont Blues – he should be driving in more runs in those situations. He, along with the rest of the team, needs to be better at getting runners over, as well as hitting sac flys, or getting runners in, while not getting hits.
Yeh he is a nice average with RISP, but he doesn’t get runners in UNLESS he gets a hit. You can have a lower average with RISP yet score more runs for you team, by making good outs.
Average isn’t everything with RISP and with Runners on 3rd with less than 2-outs.
SmittyNJ
July 30th, 2009
4:10 pm
Mitchie-san – not a plunk, but some chin music to let him know we didn’t miss it. This team needs the fire relit starting tonight and I couldn’t think of a better way.
On the other hand, it’s not something our staff usually does (if they have at all recently) so it’s a moot point I believe.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
4:11 pm
Wayne,
Agreed on the 4:07.
It’s Kawakami’s first lousy start in weeks (months), and those who didn’t like him to begin with feel vindicated.
People sure do have short memories. Oh, and another member of last year’s revolving door (Elmer Dessens) just got cut. Again.
Anders
July 30th, 2009
4:11 pm
I didn’t see the fist pump. Did they pull away with the explosion spread of the fingers? THAT would be crazy. Hohn could have followed it with a one legged hop while holding one hand over his crotch.
They would have had to hold Chipper back like Jack Nicholson at the end of A Few Good Men trying to get at Tom Cruise. “You F…d With the wrong Brave! I’m gonna rip that mask off your head”…and so on”
Robert
July 30th, 2009
4:11 pm
Wayne -Yes, KK has been acceptable as a fifth starter. But he hasnt been acceptable for his price tag – for $8 million dollars you expect more than a fifth starter
Bad Scooter
July 30th, 2009
4:11 pm
when was this toss a thon 3 years ago with Hahn
wjones
July 30th, 2009
4:11 pm
“Where are all the Kawakrappy lovers today???”
It’s called a bad game. McCann had one, and so did Prado. It hurts when it’s the pitcher, though. He didn’t seem the same after the Johnson homer, did he? Maybe there is an injury that no one is talking about, because all of a sudden Hudson is back in the rotation when he gets back, when earlier talk had speculated him going to the pen.
DAP
July 30th, 2009
4:11 pm
do any of you guys remember the email address that jim powell gives out for the radio booth? its something like radiobooth@ whatever…. i cant remember what comes after @. any help?
Hillbilly
July 30th, 2009
4:12 pm
I believe that Baker should get his tower buzzed by a Vazquez 2 seamer tonight. Anyone agree?
It’s times like this AND ONLY times like this that I long to see Jeff Bennett on the mound. An “Alfonso Soriano Buzz” and a “Clubhouse Door Fist Bump” should get the point across to Baker, no?
Wanted:
July 30th, 2009
4:12 pm
Once in a blue moon, Casey K will swing as hard as he can and get into one for a homer. But its the at bats like last night and the night before where he doesn’t get the runner home from third with less than 2-outs that kills the team.
Yeh, he went 2 for 4 last night with a homer and 1 rbi.
But he could very well have been 2 for 3 with 2 rbis.
Original Jon
July 30th, 2009
4:13 pm
Anders, you didnt see the fist pump because it was a fist bump instead, lol.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
4:13 pm
“not a plunk, but some chin music to let him know we didn’t miss it.”
so that more Braves can get summarilty ejected? – What is the sense of escalating a situation that you can not win?
Use it to motivate the guys in the clubhouse, but do not do something stupid on the field
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
4:14 pm
I’m at work…and I just burst out laughing at that Cheech and Chong “Space Coke” youtube video….holy jesus that was funny!
Thanks for posting
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
4:14 pm
Wanted:
Kotchman’s not going to remind anyone of Tex. You want him to hit 30 HR and 50 2B and drive in 120 runs? It’s not happening. Ever. That doesn’t mean he’s a bum. When I looked up his stats for 2009 I was pleasantly surprised, especially since he’s hit 8th pretty regularly.
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
4:15 pm
wjones It’s called a bad game. McCann had one…
One?
RHR
July 30th, 2009
4:15 pm
Bill Hohn
July 30th, 2009
4:16 pm
Eric Gregg Who????????????????
Wayne in Utah
July 30th, 2009
4:16 pm
Russell
Frank Wren ain’t half as good looking as I am! (though he is a handsome man, but I make that dude on the Dos Equis commercial look like a wimp!)
RHR
July 30th, 2009
4:17 pm
Terrible, Anders @ 4:11, just terrible. One of your worst.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
4:17 pm
“when earlier talk had speculated him (Hudson) going to the pen”
That was speculation from Ken Rosenthal looking for a story.
DOB stated last night…not an official quote…”Why would the Braves ask a guy in Hudson to do something he’s never done before by pitching out of the bullpen when coming back from Tommy John”
Its true it makes no sense what-so-ever.
It was reported ONCE by Rosenthal and his boyfriend..that Hudson may pitch put the bullpen upon his return…
OklahomaBrave
July 30th, 2009
4:17 pm
I say bring Norton in relief to hit Baker. Maybe he will fill like part of the team then. As previously stated earlier there will be no retaliation. Even though I think this team could use a spark even if it is a good old fashioned brawl. But please don’t let Uggla and those popeye arms anywhere near Hanson.
wjones
July 30th, 2009
4:17 pm
“Once in a blue moon, Casey K will swing as hard as he can and get into one for a homer. But its the at bats like last night and the night before where he doesn’t get the runner home from third with less than 2-outs that kills the team.
Yeh, he went 2 for 4 last night with a homer and 1 rbi.
But he could very well have been 2 for 3 with 2 rbis.”
Well, then, I see your point–we should just shoot him! Did you actually post this? The real killers last night, other than KK throwing batting practice for an inning or so, were Prado and McCann, and I certainly don’t want to get rid of them!
SmittyNJ
July 30th, 2009
4:18 pm
Robert – not many teams would let a bush league gesture like that go. Braves normally do and are sometimes considered soft for it. Just looking for some fire.
Unless the ump gives a preemptive warning before the game, no one will get tossed for an inside fastball. Especially anyone besides the pitcher (not sure your point on that one)
But I concede, it’s not our way, so it’s not like I’ll be disappointed to not see it.
Heath
July 30th, 2009
4:19 pm
VJ -
A Braves loss coupled with a Giants win doesn’t cause a little concern for Braves management? That puts the Braves in a tie with Houston for 5th place 5 games back of the Giants and 3 full games behind the Marlins.
Wanted:
July 30th, 2009
4:20 pm
Piedmont Blues – Since he isn’t Tex and since he isn’t going to hit for power, he has to do the little things well, like hit sac flys, sac bunts, etc. He’s got to be able to do that and produce more runs for this team.
Like I said, there is a big difference between 2 for 4 with a HR and 1 RBI
then 2 for 3 with a HR and 2RBIs.
The game being 6-4 is manageable. 6-3 isn’t quite as manageable for this team.
Same goes with the game the other night. Not hitting sac flys, made the game 3-2 instead of 4-2. Soriano gives up a 2-run shot and the game is over, when it should’ve been tied.
richbrave
July 30th, 2009
4:21 pm
ELMER FUDD, err, DRESSENS is cut again? Surprise, surprise, surprise.
kelevra
July 30th, 2009
4:21 pm
if we loose tonight, anybody think we should take advantage of g.anderson’s hot streak and get something for him. the giants are just handing out top pitching prospects for marginal offensive players. i say we get in on it.
OklahomaBrave
July 30th, 2009
4:21 pm
Robert, how is brushing someone back and letting them know you’re aware of the situation bad? The Rays started it back in spring training last year and it showed the sox and yanks that they won’t be intimidated. The Braves need to start playing with a chip on their shoulder.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
4:21 pm
I’m affraid about talking poorly about Soriano…That man could have Juan Uribe type connections…anywhere in the world.
He’s a mean dude
Robert
July 30th, 2009
4:21 pm
“Just looking for some fire. ”
No problem with that – keep it in the clubhouse. If the Braves instigate something by starting to throw at people, they can not win that situation. If they use it to motivate themselevs in the clubhouse and focus their energies to execute well to beat the Marlins, then it can be productive
wjones
July 30th, 2009
4:21 pm
“DOB stated last night…not an official quote…”Why would the Braves ask a guy in Hudson to do something he’s never done before by pitching out of the bullpen when coming back from Tommy John”
Its true it makes no sense what-so-ever.”
I agree. That would be as stupid as when Smoltz had his surgery. Some folks thought he would be great as a closer, that it would save his arm, but why would you ask him to do something he hadn’t done before?
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
July 30th, 2009
4:22 pm
Hi fellow bloggers.
Wayne
I seen ya mention a former ump on the last blog.
How bout *Balk-a-day* Bob Davidson?
LOL
Him and Bobby got into it a few times as I can recall.
kelevra
July 30th, 2009
4:22 pm
lose*
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
4:23 pm
wjones,
Yeah, I’m with you. Release Heap. Send Prado to Gwinnett. They made outs with men in scoring position. Off with their heads!
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
4:23 pm
Tim Hudson is not John Smoltz
njbraves
July 30th, 2009
4:23 pm
The KK apologist always make me laugh. Watch JJ and Javy pitch, then watch KK pitch. Notice any differences?? The guy is not very good and I’m not basing it only on last night. He’s a bullpen killer. He always has a high pitch count because he pitches away from contact. Someone need sto tell this guy that first pitch ground balls are your friend.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
4:24 pm
“The Braves need to start playing with a chip on their shoulder.”
Agreed. And right now that chip should be directed at themselves. They are the ones who havent been executing well, havent been playing solid fundamentals. Focus that chip on improving their own play and good things might happen. Focus it on throwing at the other team or further getting into with the umps, and we’ll wind up with guys serving suspensions while we are trying to stay in a wild-card race
SmittyNJ
July 30th, 2009
4:24 pm
What do we know about this VandenHurk kid going tonight?
Jay212033
July 30th, 2009
4:24 pm
We need to trade Vazquez and trade him now! We could get a ton for him now!
RHR
July 30th, 2009
4:25 pm
Hey is that Hohn dude gonna be on the field tonight? Maybe Chipper gets the night off? Dang I wish Kelly could catch.
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
July 30th, 2009
4:25 pm
And whoever said that they wouldn’t be surprised that Smoltz was on that list too
I want to add one more
Glavine.
njbraves
July 30th, 2009
4:25 pm
Robert…what the hell is “summarilty” mean?? I know you’re dumb, but wow.
richbrave
July 30th, 2009
4:26 pm
HEY ANDERS:
I thought your 4:11 p.m. was going to YUMA. Oh, right, that’s 3:10. Sorry. Actually, I found your scenerio mildly amusing, and not offensive in the least. I get more torked by METS players using the term “those people” to describe fellow professional baseball players(BRAVES). But hey, that’s just me. So yuck it up party boy.
Tito Fuentes
July 30th, 2009
4:26 pm
Bill Hohn — Eric Gregg the late Eric Gregg was a suspended ump who died broke. He LOLed after a Braves Marlin playoff game about how wide he made the strike zone for Marlins … dont play dumb when you have to be the show piece in a game that really needs umps to be invisible … Hope at least you get your pension unlike Eric your mentor.
beachcomber
July 30th, 2009
4:26 pm
Just an idle question. When was the last time, other than the infamous strike situation, when an ump was not invited back the next year? Hohn seems to qualify. Teams dump ineffective people every week why not MLB?
RHR
July 30th, 2009
4:27 pm
Surprisingly, Kelly has faced Vandenhurk the most of anyone on the team…but he’s .000.
Braves hitters vs Rick VandenHurk
2009 2004-2008
Hitter AVG AB HR RBI AVG AB HR RBI
Anderson, Garret - - - - - - - -
Church, Ryan - - - - .500 2 0 0
Diaz, Matt - - - - .333 3 0 0
Escobar, Yunel - - - - .286 7 0 0
Hernandez, Diory - - - - - - - -
Johnson, Kelly - - - - .000 9 0 0
Jones, Chipper - - - - .000 4 0 0
Kotchman, Casey - - - - - - - -
McCann, Brian - - - - .500 6 1 1
McLouth, Nate - - - - .500 2 0 1
Norton, Greg - - - - - - - -
Prado, Martin - - - - - - - -
Ross, David - - - - .500 2 0 0
njbraves
July 30th, 2009
4:28 pm
Please stop saying we need to trade Javy. We’re 4 games out of the WC, you don’t trade a top starter when you have a chance. Just because some don’t think the Braves can make the playoffs, doesn’t mean that’s what the Braves think.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
4:29 pm
“The KK apologist always make me laugh”
All the guy said is that KK has been an acceptable fifth starter. Name me the fifth starters that arent bullpen killers – like, if they werent bullpen killer,s they wouldnt be fifth starters
Of course there WAS the 98 Braves whoswe fifth starter was a 17 game winner – and yet somehow that team didnt achieve anything, but that’s a different story that y’all dont wanna hear about
Anders
July 30th, 2009
4:29 pm
I get more torked by METS players using the term “those people” to describe fellow professional baseball players(BRAVES). (RichBrave)
I have no idea what you’re talking about here?
Wren In Doubt
July 30th, 2009
4:29 pm
NJ Braves – your KK post. Right on the money. Guy is killing us.
SmittyNJ
July 30th, 2009
4:29 pm
oof. KJ 0-9? Dang. Everyone will be right back all over his jock if he pulls an 0 ‘fer.
Anders
July 30th, 2009
4:30 pm
I am a huge loser. My life is so boring and meaningless that all I do is post on other teams boards.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
4:30 pm
“summarilty”
summarily – as in without delay -
yeah I’m so dumb I occasionally make a typo
njbraves you are just a dips^it
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
July 30th, 2009
4:30 pm
Anders
To reply to your post about players fratting with other players.
I think inter-league started that.
Inter-league while in some instances has been pretty cool…..it’s killed a lot of good things about the game….like for instance, the ASG.
richbrave
July 30th, 2009
4:30 pm
JAY:
Are you an ANDERS clone? I mean. trade our most consistant and arguably best current starter. Fa’ gidaboudit Z.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
4:31 pm
Kenshinty Kawakrappy…8O
Heath
July 30th, 2009
4:31 pm
Pirates about to finalize trade of Grabow…man…they are really cleaning house.
njbraves
July 30th, 2009
4:31 pm
Wren in doubt…thanks bud. I’m happy with all the moves Wren has made, except for the KK signing. he’s not terrible, but they spent too much money on him.
Anders
July 30th, 2009
4:31 pm
As opposed to huge losers who post under other peoples names?
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
4:32 pm
…8O
richbrave
July 30th, 2009
4:32 pm
ANDERS:
Of course you don’t. Ask McFANN.
flange1
July 30th, 2009
4:32 pm
Robert,
I agree with you at 4:13, 4:21 and 4:24.
Use the incident with the ump and the knuckle bump as motivation to kick some butt.
njbraves
July 30th, 2009
4:32 pm
Anders still thinks the Yanks will give us Joba or Hughes for Javy…or the Sox will give us Bucholz…LOLOLOLOLOL….God Anders you are dumb.
richbrave
July 30th, 2009
4:33 pm
ANDERS:
Still working on the LSAT from yesterday?
Max14
July 30th, 2009
4:33 pm
Heres a little more gas on the fire, Hohn is the guy that screwed up in Boston with bad calls, screwed up last night with calls and fist bumping which nothing more than a conservative high five. Anyone remeber this? This has happened twice but I’m referring to the first time it happened, but remember the game where there was force at home, I think the ball was bunted to the pitcher the out was made at home and then threw to first hitting the runner I think, the runner was in fair territory long before first and they didn’t call interference. I think it was Hohn that called no interference. Joe and Boog show the replay and after the force at home the ump neglects to direct his attention to first to watch the play when its his call and he argues no interference; he wasn’t even looking! This jerk has costs us multiple games. Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but Im pretty sure it was “Luigi”.
Let's Go Bravos!
July 30th, 2009
4:33 pm
If Hohn is umping one of the bases tonight, it should be the goal of one of our players to hit the ball as hard as they can at him and hope that it takes off that stupid mustache!!
richbrave
July 30th, 2009
4:34 pm
NOVA SCOTIA:
Yes, yes-s-s!!!
SmittyNJ
July 30th, 2009
4:34 pm
Hohn’ll be standing next to Chipper tonight..
AndyC
July 30th, 2009
4:34 pm
HEADLINE: New Hampshire Sports Reporter Accused of Running Prostitution Ring
DOB, I’m thinking secondary income? Huh?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,535463,00.html?test=latestnews
njbraves
July 30th, 2009
4:35 pm
Robert…yup, you got me..I’m a dipsh#t. I’m the one who mentions farm animals in all my post and only comes on the blog when the Braves lose so I can blame the manager, even if he didn’t do anything wrong. Thanks for clearing that up.
wjones
July 30th, 2009
4:35 pm
“Hahn is a good man off the field.”
Then that is the perfect place for him, isn’t it?
richbrave
July 30th, 2009
4:36 pm
ANDERS:
Nice seeing you here AGAIN. Be cool, and don’t you be no fool.
Vinings Jim
July 30th, 2009
4:36 pm
Heath – I think he’s either on the way to do something and keeps going, or he has already decided to stand pat and does so. He’s not going to change course based on a few bad strike calls Tuesday and a few bad pitches by KK last night.
Anders
July 30th, 2009
4:36 pm
Francoeur will be a hall of famer now that he is with the Mets. The great Howard Johnson will fix his swing easily.
richbrave
July 30th, 2009
4:36 pm
wjonees:
LOL. Fall down funny man!!!!
dap01
July 30th, 2009
4:37 pm
That games that Eric Gregg called in the playoffs was the worst job of officiating ever. He was a terrible ump. No way to dispute the fact. He made a joke of that series. He was terrible.
richbrave
July 30th, 2009
4:37 pm
Enter your comments here
Hillbilly
July 30th, 2009
4:37 pm
The Grabow trade is being held up, because the Pirates had to send out for another box of candles. Gotta get the shrine set up and ready to light, first.
Anders
July 30th, 2009
4:37 pm
I am gay.
Anders
July 30th, 2009
4:37 pm
njbraves – The ship sailed on Joba and Hughes. The Yankees wouldn’t give you either of those guys for Javy now. I suggested trading him for Hughes back in the spring before he showed how good he is. Now I suggest a package with Cano in it and maybe a prospect like Moreno?
I’m guessing all the garbage we’ve been shipping over to your state has created gasses that now cloud your mind. Try and keep up.
Outside Robber
July 30th, 2009
4:38 pm
Bold, unabashed prediction for this Braves team in 2009. They’ll win between 77 and 87 games, (5 over or under the .500 mark), miss the playoffs and we’ll again have to suffer through another 2010 season of the over-the-hill gang leading the Braves with B Cox, he of accelerating senility, in front of the parade.
kelevra
July 30th, 2009
4:38 pm
capps, duke, and maholm better start packing, there the only major leaguers left… looks like the pirates read the marlins handbook on firesales, they just missed the page that covers winning the world series every few years
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
4:38 pm
So far, other than the trade for Sherrill and Lee, have any of the buyers making lower-profile trades really improved themselves?
Tom Gorzelanny?
Ryan Garko? (Can he play 1B at all?)
Freddy Sanchez may be an upgrade over whoever it was playing 2B. I guess.
I’m glad Wren hasn’t given up anything of value on a deal like these.
Anders
July 30th, 2009
4:38 pm
Francoeur will be a hall of famer now that he is with the Mets. The great Howard Johnson will fix his swing easily. (Anders II)
“Will”?
Rick in Dallas
July 30th, 2009
4:39 pm
Great Moves we Missed on
Smoltz 1-4 7 plus ERA
Griffey 215 BA
Thank you Frank
njbraves
July 30th, 2009
4:39 pm
Anders…actually genius, you suggested those moves no more than 2 days ago. I killed you for it then too. Why would the Yanks trade Cano?? Give me one good reason.
Anders
July 30th, 2009
4:40 pm
RichBrave – 4:33 is funny. Keep in mind somebody’s posting under my name.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
4:40 pm
looks like the pirates read the marlins handbook on firesales, they just missed the page that covers winning the world series every few years
LMAO
Robert
July 30th, 2009
4:41 pm
njbraves – Youre the one who watches games where a manager has made enough stupid moves that if it werent for him we’d be winning the division but continues to makes excuses for him and who condones finding ANYTHING to blame except Cox. Actually, you’re not even that. All you are recently is someone who says nothing more than, “Robert, you;re dumb”
dude, I’ll be more than happy to match wits with you if you ever find any – until then, you’re entitled to your opinion about me, as uneductaed as it might be
Anders
July 30th, 2009
4:43 pm
Keep in mind the Mets will make the playoffs. We have Francoeur now. And we have the great Omar Minaya to lead the way.
richbrave
July 30th, 2009
4:43 pm
ANDERS:
I think you’ve got a shadow. Dude, “I am gay.” Surely you did NOT put out that random post. If so well, this isn’t the military, O.K. No one cares. BTW, I’m not.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
4:43 pm
Rick in Dallas…
Don’t forget Jake Peavy…who’s all but lost for this season after making less then 10 starts!
KillerHohn
July 30th, 2009
4:43 pm
Russell, you’re doing nothing but stoking my fire on the Conrad situation. I think they should give him a chance. Of course, where do you put him? Maybe at second and move Martin Prado to first? Don’t look now, but Garrett Anderson is knocking on the door of 10 homers. Who would have thunk that at the beginning of the year?
Anders
July 30th, 2009
4:44 pm
Why would the Yanks trade Cano?? Give me one good reason. (njBraves)
I’ll give you two. They need another starter – Bad.
They already have about $60 mil in the other three infield positions and even the Yanks have some limits. Especially since they haven’t sold out but a couple of games.
keylargo
July 30th, 2009
4:44 pm
CK has put up solid numbers the entire year despite not hitting for big power. He has more walks than stikeouts – the only Brave other than Chipper. That coupled with two monster shots over 400 feet by Kotchman leads me to believe he chooses to make contact instead of trying for power. Just speculation and would like some input.
Richie
July 30th, 2009
4:45 pm
Padres open to dealing Adrian Gonzalez
Though the Padres have said over the past weeks that they would not move Adrian Gonzalez and risk alienating a fan base that has little to believe in these days, San Diego has reportedly reconsidered, according to ESPN’s Buster Olney (subscription required). The Padres are now open to dealing both Gonzalez and closer Heath Bell if they believe it will help the team in the long-term. San Diego’s front office has spent the past day evaluating talent from other organizations that have expressed interest in striking a deal — including the Red Sox, who have asked about the availability of A-Gon — and began listening to offers for their first baseman and closer on Wednesday. Any offer from the Red Sox would likely be built around Clay Buchholz, though it would surely take more to pry Gonzalez away from San Diego. — NESN …..Ben’s Take: If the Padres trade Adrian Gonzalez, they’ll have to count seagulls in the nightly attendance count.
Braves Nation….Do you think the Braves should go after him?
scotty doo
July 30th, 2009
4:47 pm
Richie:
I would, but knowing it’ll cost us nothing less than Jason Heyward, i doubt we go after him.
Maybe something like Jurrjens, Freeman, Schafer, Medlen would get it done, but thats ALOT to give up.
cabravesfan
July 30th, 2009
4:47 pm
Richie-
the cost would be way too steep in my opinion…think Hanson/Heyward/Freeman range (and no, I don’t mean all 3 but I am betting one for sure)
Gov. Clinton Tyree
July 30th, 2009
4:48 pm
Excellent song choice.
Need a W tonight.
Snidely Whiplash….perfect. Dude is a large bag of douche.
keylargo
July 30th, 2009
4:49 pm
Adrian Gonzalez – NO
Anders
July 30th, 2009
4:49 pm
Anders…don’t totally disagree with what you said, but I don’t see them moving Cano for Javy, who has already given NY a shot.
Thrillhouse44
July 30th, 2009
4:50 pm
“Will?”
Please, Anders. As you said earlier in the season regarding Soriano, let’s let it play out. I like Francoeur, but you can’t be certain that HoJo has only put lipstick on the pig. Dude has only 1 walk so far – not everything’s changed.
njbraves
July 30th, 2009
4:51 pm
Anders..Cano only makes $8million…that’s peanuts for the Yanks. They can say they have payroll restraints all they want, they really don’t. They can pretty much afford to add as much payroll as they see fit.
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
4:51 pm
Would Freeman/Kotchman/Medlen/Schafer do the trick? I mean A-Gon would be worth considering, especially since he is signed to a friendly contract and could be resigned maybe.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
4:51 pm
richbrave,
“Don’t tell, let me guess”
http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/military_institutes_new
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
4:51 pm
UNCBrave…………dude, it is illogical for one to say that Frank Wren isnt doing anything to improve the Braves. He has to balance improving this year’s team with not mortgaging the future of the team. If the Braves were in the Phillies position, I could see Wren making being more aggressive making a trade. However we arent. Even if we make a trade, there is no guarantee that we will make the play-offs.
So unless the right deal crosses his path, Frank Wren will probably not make a trade. I’m more than ok with playing this season out and giving Wren a chance to spend this winter making moves to rebuild the offense, like he did last year with the starting pitching.
Let the fun begin...
July 30th, 2009
4:52 pm
Here is William John Hohn’s official confirmed address.. Have fun people
1406 ROYAL OAK DR
BLUE BELL, PA 19422
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
4:52 pm
Richie
Any conversation about Gonzalez opens and closes with Heyward. Or Hanson.
Richie
July 30th, 2009
4:52 pm
Maybe something like Jurrjens, Freeman, Schafer, Medlen would get it done, but thats ALOT to give up.
You are right, that is a lot to give up. He is under contract for 3 more seasons, gives the same defense as Kotchman(if not better) and would give the lineup an instant power jolt.
NC Braves Fan
July 30th, 2009
4:52 pm
I’d venture to guess that KK is going to the bullpen once Hudson comes back. The Braves have a big decision to make about Huddy this offseason and they’re going to want to see how he bounces back. (And my guess is that the Braves will keep either Hudson or Javy next year – but probably not both.)
Also, if the Braves fall out of it in the next few weeks it wouldn’t surprise me if Gonzo got traded on a waiver deal, provided he’s injury-free.
Chris
July 30th, 2009
4:53 pm
I wonder if the Braves will throw at Baker tonight. One can only hope.
Anders
July 30th, 2009
4:53 pm
Thrillhouse – I only posted that because the wise ass was using my moniker. I’m with you on your 4:50.
AustinBrave
July 30th, 2009
4:54 pm
I would trade for Gonzales in a minute. Maybe Freeman, Schafer, Medlen. Then trade Kocthman for reliver.
Vinings Jim
July 30th, 2009
4:55 pm
cabravesfan – I don’t believe I have responded to your vicious, age-ist attack on me earlier. What was I just saying?
KillerHohn
July 30th, 2009
4:55 pm
OK, I usually guess at the lineup and DOB posts it while I am typing away. But, I guess it will be:
CF Nate McLouth
1B Martin Prado
3B Chipper Jones
C Brian McCann (He takes Billy Hohn out on a slide into third tonight)
LF Garret Anderson
SS Yunel Escobar
2B Kelly Johnson
RF Ryan Church
P Javier Vazquez
Chris
July 30th, 2009
4:55 pm
This Chris says no. I hope not.
BossLady
July 30th, 2009
4:55 pm
Good song choice today. I think I’ll play it later.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
4:56 pm
AustinBrave,
Freeman, Schafer, Medlen … ?
Hmmm.
Don’t think that’s enough, but hmmm.
Lew
July 30th, 2009
4:56 pm
Robert-Maybe you’d better hire that winch and pull your head out of your lower intestine before you decide to attempt matching wits.
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
4:57 pm
DAP – it’s costing us games cause of our mindset. Anytime this team hits a couple homers everyone in the line-up reverts back to their swing-for-the-fence mentality. That wouldn’t be so bad if we had someone on the team that had better than 20HR power, lol, but we don’t so it’s just creating a lot of flyball outs. McCann is notorious for this. Though you can’t blame him too much as he is our #4 hitter now.
Heath
July 30th, 2009
4:57 pm
KillerHohn -
Kotchman has actually played well, if KJ is getting the start, it might be straight up for Prado.
cabravesfan
July 30th, 2009
4:57 pm
VJ-
I believe you brought up the whole age thing…I was merely offering sympathy for your plight and marvelling at how you survived through such trying times- tell me, what was the Great Depression like?
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
4:57 pm
A-Gon wouldn’t really be mortgaging the future as it’s been said he’d be under contract for 3 more years and would like be resigned if he likes playing in ATL. If anyone was worth dipping into the strength of prospects, it’s him. I doubt Hanson/Jurrjens/Heyward would even have to be apart of it. Freeman while good, would be replaced by A-Gon. Add Medlen, Schafer and possibly another piece at lower ball with ceiling and it’d be a good trade.
Richie
July 30th, 2009
4:58 pm
A-Gon has to be worth considering on some level? If the Braves are going to make a WC push, the Braves need a bat in this lineup. They can deal with waiting a couple of weeks for Hudson and Infante as well. I just don’t believe the Braves can stand pat and give the “ole college try” per se, at the wild card. It is right there for them.
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
4:58 pm
Chris I wonder if the Braves will throw at Baker tonight.
I doubt it, but you never know…
I keep thinking I’m gonna come on here and see a headline saying that Bobby and BMac got suspended.
KillerHohn C Brian McCann (He takes Billy Hohn out on a slide into third tonight)
Hey, I’d be satisfied if he’d just get to third tonight…via hit or walk, of course. None of the “reached on error” or “fielder’s choice” junk…
nolie
July 30th, 2009
4:58 pm
like I said I like McCloth, I just think us having to use him in the leadoff spot shows how little depth our lineup has. (Russell)
you do realizt that the OBP you are complaining about is pretty much the same as what Furcal averaged while leading off for the Braves after his first year? Not sure what your complaint is. There are any number of worse leadoff hitters in MLB
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
4:58 pm
A. Gonzalaz is a wash-up who’s having a decent year, no way do I give up Freeman for him.
TnBrian
July 30th, 2009
5:00 pm
Lets hope we have a big lead towards the end of the game and Baker is up with Logan on the mound and he lazers a 95mph heater right in the ribs. Logan looks like he can kick some butt so I’d like to see baker take a punch to the mouth. Come on, ya’ll know you want to see it too.
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
5:00 pm
Even throw in Jo Jo since he pitches good in San Diego ~_~
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
5:00 pm
Marc from FL McCann is notorious for this. Though you can’t blame him too much as he is our #4 hitter now.
Our cleanup spot is cursed…Andruw Jones cursed it in ‘07…
In all seriousness, though, BMac needs to get out of that spot ASAP. But I know! I know! Who else are we s’posed to put there…
Vinings Jim
July 30th, 2009
5:00 pm
cabravesfan – the only great depression I am personally familiar with is feeling sorry for whatever poor guy ends up playing second fiddle to your wit and brilliance.
forget the curveball, Ricky
July 30th, 2009
5:01 pm
Hohn and his dickbrooom can go to hell
Chris
July 30th, 2009
5:01 pm
Other, pacifist Chris:
Grow some balls. That stuff is out of line. If I’m Bobby, I tell Vazquez to nail him square in the back.
Greg O
July 30th, 2009
5:01 pm
wjones, regarding your 4:21 post, what is your solution to the Braves overload of starting pitchers? Citing the unofficial DOB quote that he wouldn’t want to put a guy (Hudson) into a role he’s never assumed (relief) is all well and good, but by that reasoning, it would seem you’re suggesting that the Braves should bump their $60 million man, Derek Lowe, to the bullpen. Besides, he’s the only starting pitcher of the potential six with any substantial work out of the pen. You also mentioned Smoltz, but I see that as contradictory. Sure, they’re different kinds of pitchers, but Smoltz, much like Hudson, was coming off of major surgery and the move to the bullpen helped ease his transition back to the rotation. Seeing no seasoned bullpen man in the current rotation besides the guy you’ve paid to be your ace, I say don’t mess with the rotation and ease Hudson back into competition for a rotation spot next year with a one inning at a time mentality for the remainder of 2009.
KillerHohn
July 30th, 2009
5:01 pm
Richie, I say no to going after Adrian Gonzalez. You have to figure that Atlanta would have to pay a huge bounty for Gonzalez. Who would those players be? Is it worth trading away Braves of the future for a first baseman who hits .240? Yes, he hits home runs, but it’s feast or famine with Gonzalez. Who is to say that Freddie Freeman won’t be brought up in a a year or so and be more of what the Braves need. By that, I mean he hits for average, is a good fielder and also hits 20-25 home runs. He appears to have that kind of ability. If you have someone like him waiting in the wings, why trade prospects for a player like Gonzalez who will almost surely by his presence dictate that Freeman be traded? I don’t see Atlanta adding a hitter at all. Paul Konerko? Prospects for a 35 year old? I say play it out. If San Francisco acquiring Freddy Sanchez and Ryan Garko means Atlanta doesn’t win the wild card, it likely would have done so in the first place. No knee jerk reactions.
kelevra
July 30th, 2009
5:02 pm
you can get mark reynolds for probably half of what you have to give up for gonzalez and he’s younger therefore cheaper, plays 3b and lf as well as 1st, will steal about 25 bases this year and most importantly, has better number in basically every offensive category. plus he is right handed
Original Jon
July 30th, 2009
5:03 pm
Why would you trade Freeman for A-Gon, Freeman could be the next A-Gon, just like Hanson was the next Peavy. No way you include Freeman for A-Gon.
Philly Insider
July 30th, 2009
5:03 pm
Word is that the Phils are still looking to grab Halladay from the Jays. Halladay, Lee, Hamels, Blanton, Moyer for this year and next year.
See you in 2011, Braves fans.
KillerHohn
July 30th, 2009
5:04 pm
Kelevra, that’s a good point. Does anyone remember trading multiple prospects for a power hitting first baseman in the Braves past? That didn’t work out too well, did it? I don’t think Gonzalez would put the Braves in the playoffs. Why do it?
wjones
July 30th, 2009
5:04 pm
Here would be another cool scenario. Marlin gets on second. Tries to steal third, knowing he will be called safe by Hahn. McCann gets ball, fires toward third, and….throw is a little off to the left, nailing Hahn in the mustache! Chipper alertly fields the ball off his face.
Retired on the Lake (formerly cityofdecatur)
July 30th, 2009
5:05 pm
kdbanks
July 30th, 2009
2:45 pm
Best move Wren could make right now is dropping Norton and calling up Conrad.
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT
scotty doo
July 30th, 2009
5:05 pm
Philly Insider: Thats funny, cause i dont see anything on any websites about that.
Quit pulling stuff out your ass.
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
5:05 pm
I never thought of Mark Reynolds. That would also be worth the look. Won’t cost as much for sure.
Efrim
July 30th, 2009
5:06 pm
I’m pretty sure that we would have to give up Hanson or Jurrjens, plus Freeman and others for Adrian. I could be wrong though….
Lamar Banks
July 30th, 2009
5:07 pm
george Sherrill to the Dodgers
cabravesfan
July 30th, 2009
5:07 pm
VJ-
You’d love it
nolie
July 30th, 2009
5:07 pm
Remember when Caminiti said like 75% or so of the players were roiding and most (including me) scoffed at him? I believe him now.
Him and Canseco weren’t kidding. (Anders)
I believed him then. The few guys who are still in baseball from my scouting days always told me that aroundt 2/3 of the players were on PEDS at its highest usage level and many of the rest were on speed
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
5:08 pm
Efrim
After the Peavy debacle during the off season, I don’t think the price will be that steep.
Lew
July 30th, 2009
5:08 pm
Philly Insider-What part of the Phillies can’t afford Hallady AND Lee do you not understand? How can they justify it after low balling Howard for a couple of years? Despite what you seem to think, Philly does not have NY or LA money. They are stretched to the limit. Why do think they refused to pony up Happ and Drabek, Dude? Think it might be because they’ll need that cheap pitching in the lineup when all those sluggers come up for new contracts?
Better hope they can win it all this year or next. After that your lineup crashes to the ground under the weight of their collective salaries. You ain’t the Yankees.
Smarty Arty
July 30th, 2009
5:09 pm
If this Hohn guy is ever at Turner Field umpiring and I’m at the game then you can bet I’ll have a cherry pie in hand, run out on the field and drill him in the face with it. You heard it hear. Of course, a few drinks first would help but I’d be sure to have a buddy record every second of it.
Ron Roberts
July 30th, 2009
5:09 pm
I’ve always wondered why the MLB is so tight-lipped about how it deals with umpires in circumstances where they’re obviously out of line. I mean, it’s not like we, the fan, or the media, either, for that matter, even keep up with when these guys get off-days, etc., but I think a little public calling-onto-the-carpet is in order for guys like Hohn, when they’re out of line.
He’s not the only ump who’s had an issue with a partcicular team, and he won’t be the last, but that’s partly bedause, to me, it doesn’t seem like these guys ever have to answer to a higher authority when they do wrong. Or do they?
Dude should be suspended w/out pay for a good week of games, ya ask me, and most CERTAINLY shouldn’t be on the field for tonight’s game – or any OTHER Braves game, for that matter, and not for the first-bump, but for literally walking TO the Braves dugout to egg on an altercation.
Sadtoseeitthisway
July 30th, 2009
5:09 pm
Just in case tonight`s game breaks down and becomes a bean ball get even event. We need to have David Ross behind the plate. He`s a great clubhouse type guy, but if we need to have a stand up guy he`s my man. Any of you Marlins want a piece of David Ross?
wjones
July 30th, 2009
5:10 pm
“wjones, regarding your 4:21 post, what is your solution to the Braves overload of starting pitchers? Citing the unofficial DOB quote that he wouldn’t want to put a guy (Hudson) into a role he’s never assumed (relief) is all well and good, but by that reasoning, it would seem you’re suggesting that the Braves should bump their $60 million man, Derek Lowe, to the bullpen. Besides, he’s the only starting pitcher of the potential six with any substantial work out of the pen. You also mentioned Smoltz, but I see that as contradictory. Sure, they’re different kinds of pitchers, but Smoltz, much like Hudson, was coming off of major surgery and the move to the bullpen helped ease his transition back to the rotation. Seeing no seasoned bullpen man in the current rotation besides the guy you’ve paid to be your ace, I say don’t mess with the rotation and ease Hudson back into competition for a rotation spot next year with a one inning at a time mentality for the remainder of 2009.”
You forgot to turn on your sarcasm detector. I was responding to another post that was talking about not converting Hudson into a reliever because he had never done it before and it wasn’t fair to ask him to do something he had never done. My response was to compare it to Smoltz, who also had never closed, and he became arguably the best closer in Braves history. Not saying Huddy would, but almost all closers are converted starters. Eckersley is a great example, as he was considered a “washed-up” starter, far from what Hudson or Smoltz were considered.
Efrim
July 30th, 2009
5:11 pm
“After the Peavy debacle during the off season, I don’t think the price will be that steep.”
Why would that have anything to do with it? They need to move salary, but his isn’t really one of those that needs to be moved.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
5:11 pm
Kenshinty KawaKrappy, his translator, Bow Wow’s house and a low level prospect for Adrian Gonzalez
nolie
July 30th, 2009
5:13 pm
Kotchman w/RISP: .304 BA/.414 OBP
w/RISP and 2 outs: .361 BA/.500 OBP
Maybe you’re not watching enough games. (Piedmont)
hey you can’t let a little thing like facts get in the way of a good whine my man
Hohn's Stache
July 30th, 2009
5:13 pm
man this guy needs a weedeater and trim me more than once every decade! i smell like old liver as well. please…. somebody help me!
Vinings Jim
July 30th, 2009
5:15 pm
cabravesfan – touche! It is difficult to have a disagreement with someone who is always right (typical male-female dynamic, I suppose). I don’t suppose they’ll let you escape work early to get home for the first pitch?
TnBrian
July 30th, 2009
5:16 pm
Yeah, big Ross doesn’t look like a guy you’d want to phuck with, for sho!
UNCBrave
July 30th, 2009
5:16 pm
MORE CONTENDERS make moves while the Braves, in SERIOUS need of a BAT, stand pat…
CUBS get Grabow and Gorzelanny
DODGERS get Sherrill
nolie
July 30th, 2009
5:16 pm
Heck, Prado ain’t worth MY 400K either. (Wayne)
I seriously hope you are kidding that Prado ain’t worth anybody’s 400K.
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
5:16 pm
Efrim
What I meant by that is with the Peavy debacle, it exposed their GM for getting too greedy. I mean, you’re right, they don’t have to trade A-Gon, but if they feel like they can get a good package for him, as they should, then they’ll look to trade him without having another debacle on their hands like that.
Richie
July 30th, 2009
5:16 pm
I never thought of Mark Reynolds. That would also be worth the look. Won’t cost as much for sure.
He is a part of their core players(Him, drew, Young, Upton, Haren). I don’t see the D’Backs moving him at all. Gonzalez is hitting .250 because he has NO ONE that can hit a like around him. Put him in the Braves lineup and he will get pitches to crush. He is a slugger, more so than McCann. He will get Chipper pitches to hit more.
Noah
July 30th, 2009
5:16 pm
Anyone see Josh Anderson was traded by the Tigers (after being sent down). He was hitting .242, 13 sb’s, 16 rbi’s. So he wasn’t the gem that got away like many thought in April.
Efrim
July 30th, 2009
5:19 pm
“MORE CONTENDERS make moves while the Braves, in SERIOUS need of a BAT, stand pat…”
What are they using to trade for this bat that you speak of?
Mitchie-san
July 30th, 2009
5:19 pm
Grabow and Gorzelanny too…
–seriously, how do stay a fan during a fire sale like that???
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
5:20 pm
Does anyone think Frank Wren is at least playing with his Blackberry???
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
5:20 pm
Richie
“Gonzalez is hitting .250 because he has NO ONE that can hit a like around him. Put him in the Braves lineup and he will get pitches to crush. He is a slugger, more so than McCann. He will get Chipper pitches to hit more.”
That’s one reason I think getting A-Gon wouldn’t be bad. Look at the lineup he’s currently in. Put him between Chipper and McCann and I’m sure that he’ll slug big time.
Chop Chop
July 30th, 2009
5:20 pm
Grabow’s a decent reliever. Gorzelanny has been in Triple-A most of the season.
Mitchie-san,
If I were a Pirates fan, I wouldn’t give two sh**s about moving those guys.
Richie
July 30th, 2009
5:21 pm
It is already been said that Freeman isn’t going to be a pure power hitting 1st baseman, more on the contact-some power type 1st baseman. This is a big bat, something this lineup doesn’t have and needs.
Mitchie-san
July 30th, 2009
5:21 pm
Very good point BFC24.
Lew
July 30th, 2009
5:21 pm
Noah-It wasn’t about him being a gem in April. It was about many of us believing (and apparently rightly so) that Schafer needed time at AAA before coming up to Atlanta. If we HAD done it that way instead of the way we went, maybe Jordan would be up with the big club now instead of rehabbig at Gwinnett because he was pushing so hard to impress while battling an injury.
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
5:21 pm
Any word on tonight’s line-up? I have a feeling that the Braves are poised for an offensive onslaught tonight (I picked 7 Braves for my fantasy baseball team tonight…….I didnt pick Ryan Church because of today’s doubleheader in NY. I ended up picking Francoeur as my right fielder).
Efrim
July 30th, 2009
5:21 pm
BravesfanChris, I think they would be able to get a ton for him. A mix of 3-4, maybe even 5 young players/prospects. I’ll be interested to see what type of haul he requires…..since ya know, he plays first base, and another trade deadline aquisition of years past played first base……
Robert
July 30th, 2009
5:21 pm
“Robert-Maybe you’d better hire that winch and pull your head out of your lower intestine before you decide to attempt matching wits”
The Robert with the rectocranial inversion syndrome you refer to is the one managing the Braves
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
5:22 pm
I don’t usually get involved with Trade scenario’s…
But Adrian Gonzalez would look great in the clean-up spot on our team…move McCann to the five hole…Anderson sixth…Escobar 7th…WOOOOOWWWWWW
Mitchie-san
July 30th, 2009
5:23 pm
Chop Chop, I know they arent big stars, but for a pirates fan, its gotta be tough. This blog and the Braves nation would be rioting up and down Peachtree if the Braves were giving everyone away like that.
–Even if they do suck.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 30th, 2009
5:24 pm
Hey, I am still a big KK fan and will continue to be. He had a crappy outing last night and that happens. Last outing he gave up one run through 5IP. I would like to see him go longer but he is not as effective, the deeper you get in games. He is steady for about 2 times during the lineup unless he is just dealing. It doesen’t help that Bill Hohn is calling balls and strikes either.
KK is fine and is much more suited to be in the rotation than Huddy coming off of injury. I almost rather have Huddy stabilize the bullpen as an option to go with Pete and Gonzo. We are getting quality starts from 1-5 in the rotation. Last night was clunker by KK, so you go and try and get it back tonight. SF, Colo,Cubs, and the Cards are not that good. The WC is in reach We are 5-game winning streak away from being the WC leaders.
Supes
July 30th, 2009
5:24 pm
Richie,
There is no way to tell what kind of HR power Freeman will have at the major league level.
Look at Brian McCann? Did he project as a power hitting catcher in the minors? I don’t recall it. There have been many instances where a player develops the HR power at the major league level for whatever reason.
I firmly believe Freeman can be a 20-25HR per season guy eventually if given the 1B job.
Philly Insider,
Word is that the Phils are still looking to grab Halladay from the Jays. Halladay, Lee, Hamels, Blanton, Moyer for this year and next year.
See you in 2011, Braves fans
******************
2010 Braves starting rotation:
Jair Jurjjens, Derek Lowe, Javy Vazquez, Tim Hudson, Tommy Hanson.
EAT IT TROLL
Efrim
July 30th, 2009
5:24 pm
Mitchie-san, they weren’t going anywhere with those guys. They didn’t have a good farm system, so Huntington is trying to strengthen it. That’s pretty much the only way a small market team can win now, cheap, good, young players that are controllable for years. They are hoping some of these guys they acquired in trade can blossom into that.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
5:24 pm
kelevra,
Nice try, but Mark Reynolds is making $425K this year. They’ll trade Conor Jackson or Chad Tracy before they move Reynolds.
Would we like either one of them? Jackson’s been on the DL since May and Tracy’s putting up Francouer-as-a-Brave production.
Noah
July 30th, 2009
5:24 pm
We need relief pitching more then we need a bat. I’ll take my chances with the lineup, lets get an arm before our bullpen falls apart.
dogsbrekky
July 30th, 2009
5:24 pm
I hear Maddog tested positive to hamburgers but there was much consternation when a Wendys, Ronnie McD’s and Burger King showed up in the same test
Greg vehemently denies ever using Burger King to improve his performance
Interesting to see who else worked out with “THAT” Dominican trainer.. I think Pedro was also there yes ??
kelevra
July 30th, 2009
5:24 pm
richie
reynolds isnt exactly playing on the 27 yankees either and has still put up better numbers. i know he has upton but he hits behind upton therefore upton does nothing to protect him. and hes no more part of the diamondbacks than gonzalez is the padres core. anyway you slice it, you can get more for less with reynolds
Sadtoseeitthisway
July 30th, 2009
5:25 pm
Umpires have a long season. Road trips one after another that never seem to end. It would be hard to have a normal family life. When Billy Hohn gets home, do you think he`s very nice to the Mrs?
Robert
July 30th, 2009
5:25 pm
Re -Adrian Gonzalez – another big slow .250 hitter is not what this team needs
Richie
July 30th, 2009
5:26 pm
BravesFanChris24
That is all I am saying, the Braves have to take a look him. The deals which went down today also say the same thing. The Braves can’t stand pat, the Braves can seriously compete. Now, they have to make a move which says they can and they will compete in these races. This is different than 07(when all those moves were made. That team was in far worse shape top to bottom than this team). JS thought the Braves would slug their way to the postseason, problem was that team had no arms. This team has arms and can compete
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
5:27 pm
Efrim
“since ya know, he plays first base, and another trade deadline aquisition of years past played first base……”
Completely different scenarios. Tex was going for the big dollars once he reached FA anyways. Yes, that trade does look bad, but it hasn’t turned out THAT bad either.
A-Gon on the other hand would be here for 3 years in a friendly contract. After that, if he likes playing, he could easily be resigned.
I don’t think Jurrjens/Hanson/Heyward would be in the package at all. Of course, the package would have to be good, but I don’t think it’ll be as big of a kings ransom as you might would think.
Richie
July 30th, 2009
5:27 pm
kelevra
But he is apart of their core. And even though he plays 1st occasionally, he really plays 3rd Base. Don’t want to send the wrong message to U Know Who, and start a clubhouse rift.
cabravesfan
July 30th, 2009
5:28 pm
VJ-
Not likely…really could use some play by play for the car ride
Lew
July 30th, 2009
5:28 pm
Robert-Is that what Bozo, your clown glove told you last night during the throes of Bobby Cox’s ejection?
Mitchie-san
July 30th, 2009
5:29 pm
Efrim,
I understand the reasoning behind a fire sale, my point is it gotta feel pretty bad to be a fan and know its going to be even MORE years until the Pirates will be competitive again.
MFin04
July 30th, 2009
5:30 pm
I wouldn’t mind see Adrian Gonzalez in a Braves uniform, not sure what it would take though. Not giving up Hanson or Jurrjens to get him.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
5:30 pm
Lew,
Had Anderson stayed with the Braves, the McLouth deal probably never happens. Instead, Schafer (had he been healthy) would have been called up and we would see how he performed in the majors. Of course, Anderson could have stunk up the joint as he eventually did in Detroit and the Braves woudn’t even be sniffing the wild card.
Amazing how polarizing a marginal major leaguer was among the fan base!
kelevra
July 30th, 2009
5:31 pm
guys im not saying reynolds wouldnt cost alot because he would, im saying he would cost us less than a-gon and he is more versatile and fits our team better (being right handed with more power and more speed)
Lew
July 30th, 2009
5:31 pm
Sadtosee-Likely his wife’s attitude depends on whether or not Hohn performs like Ron Jeremy or just looks like him.
wheelz007
July 30th, 2009
5:32 pm
Guys, relax. We’ve made our moves already, AND we’re getting Hudson and Infante back.
That’s another good arm and another good bat.
Braves326
July 30th, 2009
5:32 pm
Yeah, man. That stache has got to go.
Vinings Jim
July 30th, 2009
5:32 pm
cabravesfan – I’ll see what I can arrange – just roll down the window and let the wind blow back your hair, and you might hear it.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
5:33 pm
Mitchie-san,
I agree that it has to suck to be a Pirates fan. As a former Denver resident who grew to like the Rockies, at least you can say that Dan O’Dowd built a young club around a terrific veteran in Todd Helton and a rising star in Holliday. (And they got quality in return for Holliday.) The Pirates have nothing close to that on the roster now.
Chop Chop
July 30th, 2009
5:34 pm
Yeah, Efrim. I like what the Pirates are doing. I’m not a prospect-hugger, but if my best players aren’t good enough to win in the majors on a consistent basis, I’d want my front office to do whatever it takes to acquire players who have the potential to be better.
Lew
July 30th, 2009
5:34 pm
BFIR-Anderson may have performed well enough early in the season to bridge the gap until Jordan was ready. Damn-even that .240 something and 13 stolen bases beat hell out of the numbers Schafer put up during his stay in Atlanta.
monty
July 30th, 2009
5:35 pm
Nova Scotia Steve
You have been very outspoken in your criticism of KK. Last night’s game was bad and maybe a game or so at the beginning of the year. Numbers were given yesterday by DOB showing how well he has pitched of late. Just got to ask you if you were as critical on here of D.Lowe when he was getting his arse handed to him a few weeks ago going 5 innings or less in at least 3 games. Once getting knocked out in the second inning and another time unable to make it through the 4th? Hardly what you expect from your “15 million dollar man”. I want call him our “ace” lest people get offended. Just curious? Or is it just a race thing?
UNCBrave
July 30th, 2009
5:36 pm
Mark Reynolds would be the cheapest shot at POWER…Also, the guy has 15 STEALS…
Lew
July 30th, 2009
5:37 pm
BFIR-Besides, I’m still waiting for McLouth to actually impress us. He’s been relatively underwhelming to this point. Made a couple of nice plays, but his BA sucks and there hasn’t been much in the way of power output or stolen bases from him. Not saying that Josh would have been better, but still and all, the deal isn’t working out ion an exemplary fashion to this point, is it?
wjones
July 30th, 2009
5:37 pm
Grabow’s a decent reliever. Gorzelanny has been in Triple-A most of the season.
Mitchie-san,
If I were a Pirates fan, I wouldn’t give two sh**s about moving those guys.
Maybe not. And if my house burned to the ground, I wouldn’t mind much if then my chimney fell. It’s just piling on now, if I’m a Pirates fan. Jason Bay-gone. Xavier Nady-gone. Nate McClouth-gone. Adam LaRoche-gone. Freddie Sanchez-gone. Jack Wilson-gone. Almost their entire lineup from last year, then all the pitchers, too. You know, it’s like someone else said, they are like the Marlins without the championship every 5 or 6 years (and it has been 6 years since the last one–maybe I jinxed them!).
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
5:38 pm
Lew,
RE: Anderson –
Maybe. The problem I see is that Bobby wanted to hit Anderson in the leadoff spot rather than 8th, like he did with Schafer. That would have made a punchless offense even worse. (And Schafer was getting on base more often than Anderson, even with the bad wrist …)
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
5:39 pm
hahah yeah monty its a race thing! that’s exactly what it is.
D. Lowe is a proven successful starter in this league regular and post season…I knew the guy would bounce back.
Can’t say the same about KK…Like you honestly have faith that we’re going to win a game this man starts?
I certainly don’t…he’s the weakest link
Supes
July 30th, 2009
5:40 pm
Mark Reynolds would be the cheapest shot at POWER…Also, the guy has 15 STEALS
*****************
Braves have their own verison of Reynolds in A right now. Cody Johnson is his name. He’ll be here in 2-3 years time.
Also, you do realize the D’Backs would want Freeman and or pitching back in return?
kelevra
July 30th, 2009
5:40 pm
experts say the wilson and sanchez trades were the best two trades they have made in years, its sad the pirates got more for those two than they did for bay and nady (i think they got pretty good value for mclouth as well) so maybe they can turn it around. gotta feel bad for those fans. havent won since bonds left
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
5:40 pm
Lew,
Nate with the Braves:
.261/.348/.444 6 HR, 18 RBI, 31 RS, 8/9 SB (in less than 1/3 of a season)
That’s a lot better than we’d get from Anderson or Schafer (at least this season), IMO
Lew
July 30th, 2009
5:41 pm
BFIR-With Jordan in the eighth slot, he was being walked to get to the pitcher-THAT’S what saved his OBP from the depths of total depravity (and consistent reviling by the blog, in it’s infinite wisdom). It also points out the one flaw with reliance on OBP as the be all and end all of stats. It can really be misleading.
The A Bomb
July 30th, 2009
5:41 pm
If you put Hohn’s mug shot into sepia you could swear he could have umped in the 1880s. . . Maybe he did vote for Grover Cleveland.
Or as I said last night — he’s twins with the Cincinnati Reds mascot.
PREDICTION FOR TONIGHT: Chipper starts chipping early. . .gets the heave-ho. . . followed by Cox. . . . who will be smiling on the way out because he can now put Kelly Johnson on the field.
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
5:41 pm
wheelz007
True, Hudson & Infante are on their way back. However, they are still question marks. I’m not saying they won’t be effective when they get back, but then again, can’t guarantee they will. Even if they did, it’d be too little too late and sadly it looks likely to be that way.
If they can do something tomorrow and get something worthy plus having them (Hudson/Infante) on their way back is much better than counting on them solely to come back and be effective, when there’s no guarantee they will.
I do hope for them to be effective when they get back, but counting on them to be so without doing anything else by “standing pat”, it may not be the best thing to do.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
5:42 pm
I would like to see McLouth get on base more often because he just does not get caught stealing. That’s a part of his game he could improve.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
5:42 pm
And also I would like to add…I was very positive about the KK signing when it happened.
But really monty you think this guy should be in the rotation over Tim Hudson????
Lew
July 30th, 2009
5:42 pm
More than we’d get from a pitiful, injured Schafer and Josh, who would have been a stop gap at best, but are those numbers what were expected from our super speedy center fielder? I don’t think so.
Scotty
July 30th, 2009
5:43 pm
Lineup DOB?
Lew
July 30th, 2009
5:43 pm
Braveheart would love this one-Hohn looks like Daniel Day Lewis in Gangs of New York.
Mitchell
July 30th, 2009
5:44 pm
Bill Hohn can suck it.
We’re winning this damn game tonight. I won’t be able to watch it but my heart tells me the Braves will be kicking some pathetic Marlin ass in my absence.
The Marlins f*ing suck if you ask me.
curtis jones
July 30th, 2009
5:44 pm
Sorry if I’ve missed it somewhere, but did anyone ever get to the bottom of why Moron-Hohn pulled out the lineup card? Bizarro.
At least he got his name in USA Today, and got some TV face time, which is so obviously his goal. He’s in the same club as Joe West, Jeff Kellogg and Angel Hernandez, who also like to be noticed.
Ever hear much about umps like Gerry Davis, Jerry Layne, and Dana DeMuth, to name a few? Well, there’s a reason for that. They call a game and fans never notice them. That means they’re good.
Noah
July 30th, 2009
5:44 pm
I hope Hudson is great but don’t expect it this year coming back from that injury. I’d count on him being more himself by next year but if he can provide a boost to the bullpen that would be huge.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
5:45 pm
I should stop talking about what-ifs with Schafer because his first stint with the Braves didn’t say anything. We don’t know how much his injury affected his game. Or was he just nervous or overwhelmed by being in the majors?
That said, while OBP is not the be-all and end-all stat, but it’s mighty important for your leadoff man to get on base (more important than BA in isolation) and Josh, given a chance to play a lot in Detroit, got on base at a horrific pace — though not that much worse than he did throughout his minor league career, as several of us pointed out when he was with the Braves.
Chop Chop
July 30th, 2009
5:45 pm
The only guy the Pirates traded that I, being in the same situation, would have kept is Nate McLouth.
Heath
July 30th, 2009
5:45 pm
Got a non-Braves question for the blog…I was prompted to ugrade to Windows I.E. 8…now my Google and Yahoo toolbars are gone…and I always get this message “Internet Explorer is currently running with add-ons disabled. Click here to manage, disable, or remove your add-ons.” Any help?
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
5:46 pm
Noah…
Tim Hudson will not be pitching out of the bullpen
TnBrian
July 30th, 2009
5:46 pm
UNCBrave, My God, chill man! The Braves aren’t getting anybody and really, who’s out there that won’t cost this team’s best prospects in return? Besides maybe a RP and you know if he’s good then he won’t come cheap either. Not top prospects but a guy who can really help as PH/spot starter in KJ would probably be wanted by other teams. It is what it is with this team for ‘09. I know it might be boring but so were a lot of those teams in the 90’s and it all seemed to work out fine.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
5:46 pm
Lew,
I’d take 100 RS and 27/30 steals from the leadoff spot. That’s what McLouth projects in a 600 AB season.
wjones
July 30th, 2009
5:47 pm
Here is something I’m wondering about McClouth, and I would think the Braves maybe would pick up on it, as they unually do. It seems he has had a great deal of problems with seeing fly balls, and losing them or nearly losing them. Could it be a vision issue? Could his defense AND his batting average be helped if it is a vision thing? The Braves discovered a problem with Diaz, after lesser teams gave up on him. Just thinking.
Shamus Thacker
July 30th, 2009
5:47 pm
McFann: Shamus–
If you click on the link in my last post, you will see–he is BEYOND due against this team…
Yes his is McFann, but I honestly feel like tonight is the night, for him and the Bravos.
Lew
July 30th, 2009
5:48 pm
BFIR-Yes, OBP and getting on base is important for your leadoff hitter. However, claiming that a #8 hitter has a great OBP because he walks to get to the pitchers’ spot, while batting al, of .220 is hardly the same thing.
Marc
July 30th, 2009
5:48 pm
The Padres are going to try to rip someone off for Adrian like they tried to rip people off for Peavy. I’m going to start a clothing line that only sells “JUST SAY NO TO TOWERS!” T-shirts.
Any deal that gives up Hewyard or Freeman is not only a bad idea, but not going to happen, the Front Office has already made that perfectly clear.
Chop Chop
July 30th, 2009
5:48 pm
That too, Lew.
Bill “the Butcher” Hohn
Classic.
I guess the Braves must be the Dead Rabbits.
The A Bomb
July 30th, 2009
5:49 pm
More proof that Hohn wants to be the show. . .
Think about it, why would MLB allow facial hair for the umps?
Shouldn’t they just blend in? Shouldn’t they all look like the local delivery guy?
Having a ’stache that brings up memories of Dodge City should NEVER be allowed. But Hohn just wants to be the show.
MLB — WAKE THE HELL UP.
nolie
July 30th, 2009
5:49 pm
and most importantly, has better number in basically every offensive category. plus he is right handed (Kelevra)
not away from his home park he doesn’t, not even close
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
5:49 pm
wjones,
I haven’t seen a lot of the games, but is McLouth having trouble tracking balls because of the screwed-up lighting at Turner Field? That seems to be a recurring problem.
Chop Chop
July 30th, 2009
5:50 pm
Much like Daniel Plainview, I think Bill Hohn needs religion.
TnBrian
July 30th, 2009
5:50 pm
Mitchell, yes the Marlins do suck…just ask Jurrjens and Moyer who feed this team a diet of offspeed pitches and mix in some fastballs. Ask Uggla how that 12-6 curve from Kawakami was last night. They are a FB hitting team, period. Anybody who watched these last two games and think the Fish are better just doesn’t observe things very well. I am a Fish hater!
Noah
July 30th, 2009
5:50 pm
Nova Scotia…I understand the reaction to Hudson in the bullpen but it makes a lot of sense and it has been reported by Fox Sports (despite Cox saying he will start, typical mgr reaction until the time comes). The Braves need help in the bullpen and he would be able to help quicker there. Why not. Lowe, Smoltz both pitched in the pen during their careers.
Marc in FL
July 30th, 2009
5:51 pm
McLout has done a good job at getting on base, he just needs to stop trying to hit a HR every single at bat and try to get on base in ways other than walks. I’m a bit frustrated with him right now, but we have him for a few more years and I think he’s going to be good for us.
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
5:51 pm
ESPN Chicago says the Cubs sent pitchers Kevin Hart and Jose Ascanio to Pittsburgh for Grabow and Gorzelanny.
Very interesting ~_~
Interested Observer
July 30th, 2009
5:51 pm
I think the pornstache is glued on.
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
July 30th, 2009
5:51 pm
Former Brave Jose Ascanio, part of the Gorzelanny/Grabow deal. (Dr. Grabow. Maker of cheap and really lousy tobacco pipes.)
Marc in FL
July 30th, 2009
5:53 pm
The A Bomb – my local pizza delivery guy has a mustache, and I think he may have serial killed people just a little bit… Point noted though.
wjones
July 30th, 2009
5:54 pm
“wjones,
I haven’t seen a lot of the games, but is McLouth having trouble tracking balls because of the screwed-up lighting at Turner Field? That seems to be a recurring problem.”
Yes, I think that was part of the problem with that ball that fell behind him at Turner last week, that thankfully Loaf was behind him to hustle in the throw (boy was that weird!). But he had a close call in Milwaukee, too, I think, and the thing the other night in Landshark where the ball fell between him and Loaf. Something is causing him to lose sight of the ball at times.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
5:54 pm
Noah
Hudson is not reliver…simply put
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
5:55 pm
orioles got good team coming very soon
Yup.
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
5:55 pm
So package is Hart, Ascanio, and Harrison for Grabow/Gorzelanny.
OklahomaBrave
July 30th, 2009
5:55 pm
Jose Canseco says there’s a HOFer that used PED’s. I haven’t heard one thing this ass clown has said to be untrue. I wonder who it could be? If it is a certain SS that played in Baltimore I would consider giving up on the game but, I believe it would be one of his former teamates that just got inducted.
Lew
July 30th, 2009
5:55 pm
BFIR-I’d still like to see a lot more from Nate before I pronounce it a successful trade.
The past couple of winters, I wish I had a buck for very time some Denizen claimed that what we needed to win was to pick up Casey Kotchman and Nate McLouth.
We’ve done so and we’re still arguing who else we need. Maybe we should have listened and gone and picked up CoCo Crisp and Rocco Baldelli, too. They’ve GOT to be the missing pieces, right?
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
5:55 pm
Harrison is a 3B prospect.
Lew
July 30th, 2009
5:55 pm
And Ryan Freel, of course.
Oliver
July 30th, 2009
5:56 pm
XM radio says Heath Bell to the Braves, Martin Prado to the Padres.
Shamus Thacker
July 30th, 2009
5:56 pm
Anders: We have Francoeur now.
And we hope he continues to do well so the Muts will re-up his sorry azz.
We’ll get the last laugh….
bravesfanmetsland
July 30th, 2009
5:56 pm
DOB coming off the top rope with the Snidely Whiplash remark. Impressive my man
OklahomaBrave
July 30th, 2009
5:56 pm
I think I say Hohn in tombstone…..no he was eating a tombstone.
Supes
July 30th, 2009
5:57 pm
XM radio says Heath Bell to the Braves, Martin Prado to the Padres.
**********
I sincerely hope that’s a joke
nolie
July 30th, 2009
5:57 pm
Mark Reynolds would be the cheapest shot at POWER…Also, the guy has 15 STEALS…(UNCBrave)
is nobody on this board aware of home/away splits? He isn’t gonna leave that bandbox and come to the Ted and hit anything like he does now.
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
5:57 pm
Richbrave ANDERS:
Of course you don’t. Ask McFANN.
Yeah…Betran once said, about the Braves, something to the effect that the Mets shouldn’t have let “these people” come into their (the Mets’) stadium and win the series, which the Braves had done.
Shamus Yes [BMac is due against the Marlins] McFann, but I honestly feel like tonight is the night, for him and the Bravos.
[sigh]…I hope you’re right!
amicusterrae
July 30th, 2009
5:58 pm
Bell for Prado???
Please NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Noah
July 30th, 2009
5:58 pm
Hudson may not be a reliver but neither was Randy Johnson but he pitched some big games in relief. More importantly that was the rumor that the braves weren’t looking so hard for relief because they thought they had their solution in asking Hudson to come back in relief (gets him back quicker)
Marc in FL
July 30th, 2009
5:58 pm
Oliver is screwing with you guys, lol, I don’t even need to research that to know it’s not true.
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2009
5:59 pm
Got a few things going on today.
1. Jeff Bennett is a free agent. Braves had suspended his pay after he broke his hand punching the wall, and Bennett filed a grievance. Braves had to either give him his pay or let him become a free agent, and they opted for latter option.
2. Players were shocked that Hohn fist-bumped the Marlins catcher after final out last night. Chipper said he’s never seen anything like that in 16 years in the majors, and he hopes the league reviews the tapes of the game and fines Hohn and announces he’s been fined, etc. Chipper said a guy umping like Hohn has against the Braves this season makes a player not want to play, because you feel like you’ve got no chance in that game. Cox had no comment, but it was apparent that he was quite taken aback by the incident, too.
And I just got Hohn as he was arriving at ballpark. He wouldn’t comment, because the crew chief told him not to. “There’s nothing there,” the crew chief said after I said I wanted to ask about the fist-bump. All Hohn would say was “No comment.” and “The league reviewed” the game and the incident.
3. Church is out of the lineup because his right elbow is nagging him, has been for a while, but acted up when he swung through a pitch on Friday. It’s his lead elbow, so he can’t drive the ball well with it sore. MRI showed only some inflammation, just needs rest. Diaz is in there.
MORE TO COME on all these matters, but I’ve got to write now for paper/online stories.
LINEUP
1. McLouth
2. Johnson
3. Chipper
4. McCann
5. Anderson
6. Escobar
7. Kotchman
8. Diaz, RF
9. Vazquez
Lew
July 30th, 2009
5:59 pm
Told you KJ was going to start tonight-and apparently tomorow, too And the next day, and…….
TNBravesfan
July 30th, 2009
5:59 pm
thats a joke on that Prado for Bell thing right?
OklahomaBrave
July 30th, 2009
5:59 pm
If it didn’t totally screw up our teams phsychy i dont think that is a bad trade. Know way is that true.
StingerSplash
July 30th, 2009
6:01 pm
Braves better hope Hohn doesn’t have to make any close calls tonight. Is he at third or first base?
Hope his stache doesn’t get in the way of his vision.
wjones
July 30th, 2009
6:01 pm
Paul Lentz, breathe a little easier my friend. The Jeff Bennett era is over.
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
6:02 pm
Interesting lineup there.
Hohn should be fined for it.
OklahomaBrave
July 30th, 2009
6:02 pm
Heath Bell is a legit closer that I believe is relatively cheap. I LOVE Prado but if that trade is straight up I might have to do it.
Marc in FL
July 30th, 2009
6:02 pm
It’s not true cause the Padres would want more than Prado for Bell. Like I said, I’m starting a “JUST SAY NO TO TOWERS!” clothing line.
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2009
6:02 pm
Oh, and Bobby wouldn’t comment on it, but Hohn had the lineup card out because he said he was going to throw someone out and didn’t know who, because he’d heard someone shout from the dugout and didn’t know who it was.
As I type this, Prado is being helped up after getting hit, I think, by a line drive during BP. Looks like he got hit in the ankle, he’s limping off the field now on his own, but with trainer at his side. So we’re probably gonna have another lineup change
DOB's Mom
July 30th, 2009
6:03 pm
Jeff Bennett is gone, YES!!
Jeff R
July 30th, 2009
6:03 pm
Jeff Bennett… what an “impact” player – with the wall, that is!
Doc Holiday
July 30th, 2009
6:04 pm
Whats do you guys think is best for the braves?
a giants sweep or a phillies sweep?
Braves326
July 30th, 2009
6:04 pm
So, Prado potentially gets traded and isn’t in the line-up tonight?
Let’s hope KJ brings that big bat with him today.
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
6:04 pm
Hmmm.
I really hope Wren does some moves tomorrow to help out. Not saying it has to be a blockbuster, but something needs to be done for sure.
OklahomaBrave
July 30th, 2009
6:05 pm
that squashes the fake trade but, Prado wasn’t in your original lineup.
Shamus Thacker
July 30th, 2009
6:05 pm
We #18 in the SI Power Rankings.
wjones
July 30th, 2009
6:06 pm
DOB, your lineup didn’t have Prado in it anyways. Please let us know his status (duh, of course you will). Thanks.
Marc in FL
July 30th, 2009
6:06 pm
I hope we trade Greg Norton for V-Mart, straight up I say!
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
6:06 pm
Astros released a good ole friend of ours….Russ Ortiz.
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
6:07 pm
Wow. Thanks Chief! Jeff Bennett…sheesh…
Who’s the crew chief? Guess that kinda makes sense for him to tell Billy the Kid not to comment…Int’resting stuff from Chipper, too. I hope they fine that guy! And if they do, yeah, we better hear about it!
And thanks for the lineup.
Jeff R
July 30th, 2009
6:07 pm
Prado dinked by a ball in the ankle… what a break for Kelly Johnson. Hope Kelly has been taking a little extra fielding practice. Oh, and where have you gone Brooks Conrad?
Robert
July 30th, 2009
6:07 pm
“But really monty you think this guy should be in the rotation over Tim Hudson????”
What kind of durability and results are you expecting from Hudson in his first 8 or 10 starts back from such a serious surgery and long layoff? I certainly dont throw him out there every fifth day from the get go thinking he;s gonna be an automatic seven innings
Let’s see what Hudson has when he actually gets back against live major league hitting, maybe in a start, maybe in a relief appearance, and then assess which guy serves the Braves best in the rotation the rest of the year
DOB's Mom
July 30th, 2009
6:07 pm
So the Dodgers, Cards, Phillies, Giants and Cubs improved their teams while the Braves did nothing. I guess they feel they are out of it already. I can’t say I blame them.
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
6:07 pm
With Jeff Bennett a free agent, the money that was going towards him should be able to help in a trade ~_~
Lew
July 30th, 2009
6:08 pm
I thought Prado was sitting tonight out, anyway?
Jeff321
July 30th, 2009
6:08 pm
Good RIDDANCE to Jeff Bennett!
WOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
6:09 pm
Ha! He didn’t know who’s voice he heard…
Um…Prado wasn’t in the original lineup…so why would there have to be a change if he got hit?
semiballcoach
July 30th, 2009
6:09 pm
you couldn’t get a shopping cart for norton
Bravetiger
July 30th, 2009
6:09 pm
DOB – Prado wasn’t in the lineup anyway was he? He’s not on the one posted at 5:59.
Marc in FL
July 30th, 2009
6:09 pm
Taken straight from the MLB.com, thought this had some neat stats (nothing too special though)
“Tidbits
Jair Jurrjens posted his 15th quality start of the season on Tuesday night. The Braves rank fourth in the Majors with 59 quality starts. Last year, they ranked 20th with a total of 75. … Anderson has homered in the first two games of this series and four times since the All-Star break. He had just five homers in the 67 games he played before the break. … The Braves have allowed a Major League-low 68 homers this year. Wednesday night marked the fourth time this year that one of their starters (Kenshin Kawakami) allowed at least three homers in a game.”
Jeff R
July 30th, 2009
6:09 pm
Hudson needs to be worked back into the rotation. I’m all for him replacing Kawakami, but he needs to be eased in.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
6:09 pm
Lew – sticks and stones may break my bones but lame attempts at insultss from a twinkie guzzling lardass with a drug-damaged brain aint about to ruin my day
amicusterrae
July 30th, 2009
6:10 pm
The suprising thing about Bennett is that he filed a grievance!
The Braves made him punch that wall?
dogsbrekky
July 30th, 2009
6:10 pm
Jeff Bennett a FA = there is a wonderful god
Prado for Bell = god makes me cry some days
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2009
6:10 pm
Actually there wouldn’t be a lineup change, since Prado’s not in there tonight anyway
kelevra
July 30th, 2009
6:10 pm
the blue jays need to take a look at the orioles and see how to mange trading an ace. the orioles went in to all out rebuilding and traded bedard and sherrill, adam jones, and tillman which quicky increased their rebuilding time. now they have young power house of a team coming and blue jays are the 5th best team in that division. sometimes you just gotta bite the bullet and rebuild and trading halladay for three or four stud prospects would greatt increase that time table. i just dont get why teams aspire to win 75-80 games and to be in 3rd or 4th place. either you have the horses to win it all or rebuild. what is the infation with mediocrity. for years the pirates actual goal has been to be a .500 team. really? i just dont get. i say all this because its where the braves are and i feel our managment has taken this attitude and an aweful place to be. either you have the horses to win it all or you rebuild but staying in 70 to 80 wins every year does nothing.
Couch Tater
July 30th, 2009
6:10 pm
Chop, Mitchie-san,
Dejan Kovacevic’s chat transcript. (Pittsburgh Post-Gazette)
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09211/987523-63.stm
wjones
July 30th, 2009
6:10 pm
“So the Dodgers, Cards, Phillies, Giants and Cubs improved their teams while the Braves did nothing. I guess they feel they are out of it already. I can’t say I blame them.”
Didn’t you READ? We gave the league back Jeff Bennett! One more Jeff that won’t harm us anymore!
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
6:11 pm
So the Dodgers, Cards, Phillies, Giants and Cubs improved their teams while the Braves did nothing. I guess they feel they are out of it already. I can’t say I blame them. – DOB’s Mom
The writing is on the wall Ma’am. A win tonight will make for a nice July ……..anyway.
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
6:11 pm
Piggy backing Kawakami & Hudson makes sense. Let Kawakami pitch the first few innings say through 5 and let Hudson finish it off and vice versa. That way not over using Hudson and since he’s not likely to go to the BP .
Jeff R
July 30th, 2009
6:11 pm
Come on, Wren wouldn’t trade Prado for Bell. He’d trade four or five outstanding prospects for Bell. Sort of clean off the minor league shelf.
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
6:12 pm
being right handed with more power and more speed
Except that his SB% is around 70% meaning he costs you runs on the basepaths, and his power and OBP decrease badly away from AZ and against righties. If the price is mega-cheap, sure, but we ain’t gonna be serious buyers because we can’t afford it. And I’m glad because we don’t need to be big buyers.
Lew
July 30th, 2009
6:12 pm
Robert-Better go get that Clown glove and your Astroglide ready. It’s almost game time and I’m sure Bobby will do something to titillate you and Bozo Boy. Just think-maybe he’ll get thrown out again or put in the wrong reliever. You could be writhing in sheer ecstasy by the 5th.
The A Bomb
July 30th, 2009
6:12 pm
No lineup change, but somewhere in Land Shark Stadium, a 68-year-old man is sitting in an office smoking a Cuban cigar, smiling. . . for his adopted son can return to his designated role.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
6:14 pm
My guess on the HOFer that used PED’s would be Eckersley – if in fact it’s true that there is one
Braves326
July 30th, 2009
6:14 pm
KJ has done a good job swinging the bat since coming up from Gwinnett, what’s wrong with giving him a start?
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
6:15 pm
David O’Brien………….Finally, some good news in the “get rid of the bums” department. Jeff Bennent is no longer a Brave. Way to go Frank Wren. Dude slammed his fist into the wall. That is a non-baseball related injury. Braves management has every right to refuse to pay him.
One BUM down, a couple more to go. Nice job Frank Wren.
dogsbrekky
July 30th, 2009
6:15 pm
“Does anybody remmber laughter”
My radio station just followed up Led Zep live “StairwaY” with Bon Jovi
kind of like hearing we traded Prado to San Diego to only find out it wasnt for AGONZ
Interested Observer
July 30th, 2009
6:15 pm
DOB: Thank you for getting the lowdown on everything from yesterday. It’s excellent work and much appreciated.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
6:15 pm
“Jose Canseco says there’s a HOFer that used PED’s. I haven’t heard one thing this ass clown has said to be untrue”
What kind of world do you live in where someone who speaks only the truth is what qualifies as an ass-clown?
woogidy
July 30th, 2009
6:16 pm
Jeff Bennett Gone? Christmas in July folks. A-w-e-s-o-m-e! What could be better than that?
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
6:16 pm
And I agree with Efrim and Chop Chop on the Pirates. I agree that I would’ve kept McLouth, but I see this as a complete rebuilding and more of a Neil Huntington is cleaning house and starting from the ground up to make it his club the way he wants it type thing.
KillerHohn
July 30th, 2009
6:17 pm
All of this “the Braves did nothing” stuff is absolutely astounding to me. They did nothing but replace 2/3 of their outfield this season! Some folks act as if Frank Wren has to make moves when other GM’s make moves or he hasn’t done anything. You rarely see a team change their whole roster within the season. Is that what you want?
kelevra
July 30th, 2009
6:17 pm
“capps, duke, and maholm better start packing, there the only major leaguers left”
lol dodgers looking at capps
Lew
July 30th, 2009
6:17 pm
Braves326-He’s not the Player Du Jour.
Lawdawg
July 30th, 2009
6:17 pm
I’m hearing on ESPN radio that the Braves have traded Prado to the Pads for Heath Bell. Anybody here that can deny/accept that this has been done?
Shamus Thacker
July 30th, 2009
6:17 pm
Braves326: KJ has done a good job swinging the bat since coming up from Gwinnett, what’s wrong with giving him a start?
Mr Cox?
TnBrian
July 30th, 2009
6:17 pm
Can’t blame Chipper for being frustrated and feeling defeated because players have no control over an umps actions other than screaming and yelling only to get thrown out of a game. But, saying it makes him not even want to play? I think he could’ve used a better choice of words. The man has all the talent in the world to overcome a prick like Hohn.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
6:18 pm
Anyone consider that Hohn might’ve pulled out the lineup card because Donk had to ask him who he should have batting?
Chris
July 30th, 2009
6:19 pm
Why no Prado?
KillerHohn
July 30th, 2009
6:19 pm
Tell me you are joking about Martin Prado being traded for Heath Bell! Tell me its a complete joke! I’m sick already.
TnBrian
July 30th, 2009
6:19 pm
That Prado to Padres rumor had better be false or I might go and hit a wall or something. Wren can’t be that stupid. Bell is a good one but Prado is too important to this team. No way that’s true.
njbraves
July 30th, 2009
6:19 pm
Paul Lentz…so now you’re second guarantee has proven to be wrong. You have been saying all along that Bennett would be back out there blowing games for the Braves. You also said that KJ would come back and destroy the team. You are now 0-2.
Loyal Homer
July 30th, 2009
6:20 pm
DOB, I hope this was just Ol Billy being surprised last night and hoping it was just his natural reaction to fist him back.
BTW DOB, I wrote about you in my blog yesterday. I have attached the link. It deals with ESPN branching out to big cities (ESPN-Chicago for example).But basically, just wanted to say I appreciated all the work you do to keep us Braves fans up on whats going on.
http://thesportsdebates.com/2009/07/29/the-espn-dedicated-local-coverage-debate-–-stay-away-espn/
UNCBrave
July 30th, 2009
6:20 pm
I liked the way the Braves handled the Jeff Bennett issue and thank goodness I never have to see him pitch again.
On HUDSON, getting 6 innings out of him is more than what KK is giving us….KK is too expensive for a reliever. Trade him for a bat in the off-season if not now…
1st time PRado’s had a night off in a long time…
dogsbrekky
July 30th, 2009
6:20 pm
Given that the East German swimmers were ‘roided out of their Brains in the mid 1970s (remember Cornelius Ender etc) and Ben Johnson, Flo-Jo etc were roided and uppered out of their minds in 1988 what makes us think that PEDs were not part of baseball in the late 80s and early 90s, as testing back then was non existent and even the sports that did test had very rudimentary knowledge of the problems
There HAS to be a statistical likelihood that several hof inductees were NOT clean
Redstick19
July 30th, 2009
6:20 pm
XM has reported that the Braves have traded a blogger named “Oliver” to San Diego for a bag of used PED syringes.
KillerHohn
July 30th, 2009
6:21 pm
What does this team need worse? Bullpen help or offense? If a trade is going to be made- and I don’t think Atlanta should make a deal- it had better be for a BIG bat! I’m about to take a baseball bat to my computer while a picture of Frank Wren is posted on it! Sorry for the meltdown.
woogidy
July 30th, 2009
6:21 pm
Oh, and for the Nate complainers, Remember Jordan Schafer. Remember a strike out every 2.65 AB’s. Just remember those times. How about this, We essentially traded Charlie Morton, Jeff Locke and Edgar Renteria for Nate McLouth and Jair Jurrjens.
UNCBrave
July 30th, 2009
6:21 pm
Just adding Conrad and DFA Norton would be a BIG upgrade on the offensive side..
The A Bomb
July 30th, 2009
6:21 pm
That wasn’t the lineup card Hohn pulled out. . . He was writing the date and time Bobby and him would face each other in a duel with pistols near Dodge City, Kansas.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
6:21 pm
Well, Lew maybe I’ll just do that. You go get your box of Twinkies and smoke you some good reefer so you’ll be fooled into thinking you’re watching a competetn manager. Just dont set any of your food stamps on fire
njbraves
July 30th, 2009
6:21 pm
Dear God, the Prado lovers are insane. He’s a nice player, but he is certainly not untradeable.
Mike in LA
July 30th, 2009
6:22 pm
Braves 326, whats wrong with giving him a start is the lackadasical attitude he brings and the games he’s cost the Braves in the standings the last two years as a result of it. KJ, Laroche, and Francouer all the same if you ask me. All have talent but no heart.
Jake W.
July 30th, 2009
6:22 pm
Doc, you have to root for a Phillies sweep. Of course now that the division looks to be theirs for sure they will probably start to lose.
Wolfman
July 30th, 2009
6:22 pm
http://www.hostbigimage.com/images/mekcz6mhvx98dydk4a.gif
KillerHohn
July 30th, 2009
6:22 pm
Rumor has it that Hohn was showing Bobby Cox his wife’s cell phone number is his black book.
Lew
July 30th, 2009
6:22 pm
Shamus-You’re ticked Bobby won’t play Kelly and half the rest here are ticked he IS playing him. No way in hell the Dude can win. Damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. Robert’s already working himself into a lather.
Mark Twine
July 30th, 2009
6:23 pm
if true, bell for prado straight up would be a STEAL for atlanta i think.
Wolfman
July 30th, 2009
6:23 pm
http://www.hostbigimage.com/images/mekcz6mhvx98dydk4a.gif
the fist pump
woogidy
July 30th, 2009
6:23 pm
Prado for bell? Good deal if true.
njbraves
July 30th, 2009
6:23 pm
Robert..so you think that the entire front office of the Braves has been tricked by Bobby Cox? They all are too dumb to see that Bobby is a bad manager? That is essentially what you have been saying.
Dan in NJ
July 30th, 2009
6:24 pm
LOL… guys wouldnt want to trade a nice UTILITY player (Prado)for a CLOSER (Bell)????? Thats toooooo funny
Lew
July 30th, 2009
6:24 pm
Robeert-You’re also a raging douchebag. You do realize that, don’t you? Stroke stroke Bozo Boy.
KillerHohn
July 30th, 2009
6:25 pm
No, Prado isn’t untradeable but the Braves don’t need an average relief pitcher worse than they need a hitter. If you’re going to do that, why not trade for Kevin Kouzmanoff? I don’t like him, but you see the point.
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
6:25 pm
Prado for bell? Good deal if true.
I dunno about that…
njbraves
July 30th, 2009
6:25 pm
Prado Mania is in full effect
Shadetree
July 30th, 2009
6:26 pm
I missed it. What happened to Bennett. What’s the Bravos record since KJ and Norton have come back? 1 and 3 I think. Chemictry means alot and KJ and Norton could mean something.
I umped for many many years and Hohn should be suspended.
It’s about time the Braves get pissed off. I would like to see Javy headhunt tonight.
Lew
July 30th, 2009
6:26 pm
UNCBRave-You seriously think Hudson will go six or more? When, sometime around June of 2010? He sure as hell won’t do it in the three or four starts he’ll get in September.
Johninnc
July 30th, 2009
6:26 pm
Prado for bell is it true? or just a fake trade that someone made up?
TnBrian
July 30th, 2009
6:26 pm
njbraves, you won’t be saying that when KJ starts his cold streak or Infante doesn’t bounce back. Yeah, yeah, Infante can hit but after an injury like he had and as long as he’s been out, it might take awhile before he’s his old self again.
OklahomaBrave
July 30th, 2009
6:27 pm
Robert, even though Canseco has been truthfull doesn’t mean he’s not an assclown. The guy is a joke and my definition of assclown is have a flyball bounce off your gord for a homerun. I think the PED guy could be Rickey.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
6:27 pm
“Robert..so you think that the entire front office of the Braves has been tricked by Bobby Cox? They all are too dumb to see that Bobby is a bad manager? That is essentially what you have been saying”
No, that’s not what I have been saying. Because I believe the Braves front office is concerned about keeping the team a money making enterprise. It’s a business, and they like Cox because he is a company man
As a fan, what I want to see from the Braves is World Series rings, not profits
Small Trade Alteration
July 30th, 2009
6:27 pm
White Sox Get:
1B Kotchman
2B Prado
SP Medlen
Low Level Prospect
Braves Get:
1B Konerko
RP Matt Thornton
Vinings Jim
July 30th, 2009
6:28 pm
Robert – Anyone consider that Hohn might’ve pulled out the lineup card because Donk had to ask him who he should have batting?
Blah blah blah blah idiot blah blah same thing over and over blah blah blah IQ 55 blah blah blah
monty
July 30th, 2009
6:29 pm
Nova Scotia Steve
You cut D.lowe some slack because “he is a proven Major League pitcher.” KK isn’t!
WEll duh!! Let me get this straight, you’re fine with the “15 million dollar man” losing 4 out of 6 because he is a “proven” pitcher but you aren’t fine with the new guy from Japan who isn’t “proven” but up until last night had better stats for the year(except for wins)) than Lowe! Don’t you have your logic a little backwards? I get more miffed at Lowe when he underperforms beacuse he is “proven.” You’re angry at the unproven guy! Why? He isn’t “proven”. I tend to give a new guy to the league more of a break if he strikes out with the bases loaded versus say a Chipper Jones. I don’t know thats just me! Rant on!
Heath
July 30th, 2009
6:29 pm
I am ready for the games… need a win for the Braves and the Phillies tonight.
Interested Observer
July 30th, 2009
6:29 pm
If Prado got traded then I bet the Padres were pissed at DOB’s report that Prado limped off the field after getting hit with a line drive during BP. Can we use a little common sense here?
faninva
July 30th, 2009
6:29 pm
Robert wrote – “As a fan, what I want to see from the Braves is World Series rings, not profits”
would someone else like to take this one or should I?
OklahomaBrave
July 30th, 2009
6:29 pm
How can people say Prado for Bell is not good? We are very deeeeeep at 2nd base and anytime you can get a legit closer for one player it would be a steal. It won’t happen because Towers will wan’t more not because Wren won’t trade Prado. We also have 2 potential closers coming off the books at years end and Bell could fill that spot.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
6:29 pm
“Robert..so you think that the entire front office of the Braves has been tricked by Bobby Cox?”
I’m trying to think if there is a human being or higher primate alive stupid enough to be tricked by Bobby Cox?
Lew maybe
Mike in LA
July 30th, 2009
6:29 pm
UNC Brave, agree with everything you just said. Don’t think Kawakami is a bad pitcher and I think he’ll continue to get better but there’s no need for him in Atlanta. The Braves have 5 starting pitchers(including Medlan) who are better than him and 6 when Hudson comes back. I know the Braves are not big on “salary dumps” but just give him up for a marginal prospect. The Astros are said to be looking for a pitcher to fall into their lap. Giving them Kawakami would help both teams I think.
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
6:30 pm
Heath–
Why in the name of all that is holy would we EVER want the Fillies to win?
Or is that a typo?
KillerHohn
July 30th, 2009
6:30 pm
Whoever posted the Prado/Bell rumor on XM & ESPN Radio had better fess up if you made it up. I’ll starting a flaming computer virus straight to your computer.
Slugger - www.theweeklyscene.com
July 30th, 2009
6:30 pm
Mario’s on third tonight, right?
If Mario jumps high enough, god help the 15 fans along the Marlins 3rd baseline if an invisible box with a ‘?’ mark reveals a super-size inducing mushroom.
God help those 15 people.
FaninFaytown
July 30th, 2009
6:30 pm
It’s really hard to tell from that video who even initiated the fist bump lol
Shamus Thacker
July 30th, 2009
6:30 pm
No Lew, I was asking Braves326 if he/she were Bobby… lol
"Chef" Tim Dix
July 30th, 2009
6:31 pm
FM is reporting video killed the radio star.
The A Bomb
July 30th, 2009
6:31 pm
Now I get it. . . If we trade Prado then NORTON can be our backup 1st baseman. . .
HMM…. Kotchman needs a day off a couple times a week. . .
Master plan in effect. . .
Robert
July 30th, 2009
6:31 pm
“Robert wrote – “As a fan, what I want to see from the Braves is World Series rings, not profits”
would someone else like to take this one or should I?”
Oh no, you go for it genius. This I gotta hear.
Yayyyyyy TEAM Let’s make MONEY!!!! – You know you can help out. Go buy ya some box seats and $10 hot dogs to watch Cox manage
Shamus Thacker
July 30th, 2009
6:32 pm
Can’t find a thing about a Prado trade.
Braveheart
July 30th, 2009
6:32 pm
Bill “The Butcher” Hohn. Too funny, Lew & Chop Chop
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
6:32 pm
Prado traded?
The Pods got a gem then. Good for them!
Who’s Heath Bell?????
Heath
July 30th, 2009
6:32 pm
McFann – they start a series against the WC-leading Giants. Braves benefit more if the Phillies sweep the Giants.
njbraves
July 30th, 2009
6:33 pm
Robert you’re so wrong its sad.
dogsbrekky
July 30th, 2009
6:33 pm
Chef – I chortled
OklahomaBrave
July 30th, 2009
6:34 pm
Shamus, now I know why you hate stupid trade talk.
Chef, good one at 6:31
cabravesfan
July 30th, 2009
6:34 pm
Robert-
You do realize there are very few professional sports teams that actually make money right? Most owners buy teams as an investment, part of a bigger transaction, or in some cases simply because they can. You do not buy a pro sports team to become rich. It is next to impossible to make money that way, unless you operate like the Pirates (and even then it is rare that you turn a profit.) I’d just like to point that out to you.
Slugger - www.theweeklyscene.com
July 30th, 2009
6:34 pm
Is this what Hohn does on his off-day?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpBGRA6HHtY
Vinings Jim
July 30th, 2009
6:35 pm
Tearing our boy Hohn limb from limb on the pre-game show
dogsbrekky
July 30th, 2009
6:35 pm
Robert – I love Cox and I am a little retarded now after a bout of brain cancer, but who do you want to coach us in lieu of Bobby
Last night we had a Freddi Gonzo recommendation… your thoughts big guy please (no insults just an opinion please)
OklahomaBrave
July 30th, 2009
6:35 pm
I agree with Heath go Phillies. We are done as far as the division is concerned but, a sweep of the Giants would definitely help in the WC.
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
6:35 pm
Heath–
Hmm…eeww…
Well, right now I’m just pulling for the Braves. But I gotta tell you, for whatever reason, I’m not as excited about tonight’s game as I used to be…
Redstick19
July 30th, 2009
6:35 pm
Shamus Thacker- you won’t find anything because it doesn’t exist, except for within the teen’s head who started the rumor. IMO, would be good trade for Braves if it weren’t fiction. Bell’s a true closer… we’ve forgotten what those look like around here.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
6:36 pm
njbraves – I have said before, you are entitled to your opinion. The post-Cox era (it WILL happen) will prove me right.
Between the time he retires and the time he becomes eligible for induction, Bobby Cox’s Hall-of-Fame stock will make Enron look like a must buy
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
6:36 pm
I love Prado, but San Diego can get more for Heath Bell than that
VaBraveFan
July 30th, 2009
6:37 pm
i cant find anything on the Prado for Bell trade…. It would be a steal for us, makes sense for us but not the Pads i think someone is bullsh1tting, a closer controlable till 2011 for a hot utility player lol, We have KJ and Omar with Conrad in AAA makes sense for us but they wont do it lol
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
6:37 pm
I wish Marteen the best. I’ll be following him.
Shadetree
July 30th, 2009
6:37 pm
Hohn brought his hand down in a fist and I think the catcher thought Hohn was giving him a fist bump and therefore gave him one. Looked that way to me.
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2009
6:37 pm
One more time change for the Bristol bunch: The Braves’ Aug. 16 home game against Philadephia has been changed to an 8:05 p.m. start to accommodate ESPN Sunday Night Baseball. It had been scheduled to start at 1:35 p.m.
OklahomaBrave
July 30th, 2009
6:37 pm
I’m all for Freddy G coming back to manage but, if he won’t or can’t I would give Ned Yost the nod.
Lew
July 30th, 2009
6:38 pm
SM-Look it up if you don’t already know. It’s not up to me to educate you.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
6:38 pm
“I love Cox and I am a little retarded now after a bout of brain cancer, but who do you want to coach us in lieu of Bobby
Last night we had a Freddi Gonzo recommendation… your thoughts big guy please (no insults just an opinion please)”
I have two answers to that – specifically I;d give a guy like a Rick Dempsey a chance. Or someone who would play Whitez Herzog/Billy Martin type baseball
More generally, anyone not named Mike Hargrove, Bobby Valentine, or Lew would be an improvement
Johninnc
July 30th, 2009
6:38 pm
DOB have the braves trade Prado for Bell ????
Robert
July 30th, 2009
6:38 pm
“I love Cox and I am a little retarded ”
And by the way, there’s no need to repeat yourself
"Chef" Tim Dix
July 30th, 2009
6:38 pm
Hohn looks like Freddie Mercury V2.0.
The A Bomb
July 30th, 2009
6:39 pm
Shadetree. . . I’m sure that’s the way Chipper saw it as well.
OklahomaBrave
July 30th, 2009
6:40 pm
NO PRADO TRADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shamus Thacker
July 30th, 2009
6:40 pm
DOB, any way you can get Wren on the horn and confirm or shoot-down this Prado thing?
Shadetree
July 30th, 2009
6:40 pm
Hohn does look like he would enjoy a good fisting
TnBrian
July 30th, 2009
6:41 pm
Lets put it this way… when ever you read “XM Radio” involving a trade is usually BS.
Chipper is talking about the bad ump, gotta go!
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
6:41 pm
njbraves………..I wasnt aware of the pay dispute between Bennett and the Braves. From what I read of David O’Brien’s posting concerning the issue, the Braves either had to keep him and give him his back pay…..or release him and pursue the grievance. So in other words, if the Braves could have kept him and still pursued the grievance, then they would have brought him up.
Think about it, if the Braves didnt have any intention of bringing up Bennett, then why have him do a rehab assignment in Triple A? Why not send him outright to Triple A when he was healthy enough to pitch? If he is on a rehab assignment, then they have you pay him his Major League salary. However, if he was sent outright to Triple A, then they would only have to pay his Triple A salary.
So in hindsight, you cant tell me that I was “wrong” about him being added to the roster, because Bennett wasnt released for performance related issues. I have no doubt that he would have been called up if it wasnt for the pay dispute.
Also, I didnt say that Kelly Johnson would “kill the Braves”. I said that bringing him up AND sending down Brooks Conrad instead of cutting Greg Norton….would not help the Braves win ballgames. I said that I would support Kelly being on the roster if Norton was released.
I’ve noticed that you are very “selective” as to what part of someone’s postings you want to “pick” to dissect.
Now before you jump up for joy and talk about how Kelly is 4 for 5 since his call-up, might I remind you that Julio Lugo, who was DUMPED by Boston, is hitting .400 with 2 doubles, 2 triples, 1 homer, and 3 RBIs in his first 25 at-bats with the Cardinals. Do you think that that kind of production by Lugo will hold up?
5 at-bats by Kelly Johnson wont make me forget about his horrific 1st half. Lets see how Kelly will do the rest of the season.
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
6:41 pm
DOB The Braves’ Aug. 16 home game against Philadephia has been changed to an 8:05 p.m. start to accommodate ESPN Sunday Night Baseball.
Oh boy! Playing the Fillies on National TV! Sounds like fun, children!
Jeff R
July 30th, 2009
6:41 pm
Here’s the argument for Prado: he’s better than Johnson.
Lew
July 30th, 2009
6:42 pm
Clown Boy-You’re really grasping at straws now. I guess it beats what you’ve been grasping all this time though.
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2009
6:42 pm
Prado’s having an X-ray on his left ankle, we won’t get results until after game starts.
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
6:42 pm
TnBrian Chipper is talking about the bad ump, gotta go!
Oh man! Cann you fill us in on what he said? TV’s in use for another show…
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
6:43 pm
DOB–
Great.
Who hit him, do you know?
Lew
July 30th, 2009
6:44 pm
Braveheart-Knew you’d like that one, Dude.
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
6:44 pm
Chipper should wear a MIC
BosnianBaller
July 30th, 2009
6:44 pm
http://www.hostbigimage.com/images/mekcz6mhvx98dydk4a.gif
dogsbrekky (Robert is a hater)
July 30th, 2009
6:44 pm
Robert – you nasty little man, give us an informed opinion, who do you want to manage instead of Mr Cox, please, put your money where your small mouth is please.. come on be a little more than a little wuss… go out on a limb
OKC has suggested Ned Jost and Fred Gonz
Do you think they would be okay
I say yes to Fred Gonzo, no to Jost
TnBrian
July 30th, 2009
6:45 pm
Woah, Chipper is flat out bashing this guy. This isn’t going away. Good for you Chipper!
cabravesfan
July 30th, 2009
6:45 pm
Who hit him, do you know?
McFann-
What do you want to bet it was KJ?
ACCTDAWG
July 30th, 2009
6:45 pm
now we know why Hohn had his lineup card out…HE WAS GOING TO PICK SOMEONE ON THE TEAM TO THROW OUT!…are you kidding me???? I have never seen anything so unprofessional…
The A Bomb
July 30th, 2009
6:45 pm
Diaz hit Prado
ncbravesgirl
July 30th, 2009
6:46 pm
Wow, Chipper’s comments were harsh!
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
6:46 pm
cabravesfan–
Haha! That wouldn’t look good.
TnBrian–
Billy the Kid better watch it tonight–umping at third base and all…
Heath
July 30th, 2009
6:46 pm
Still no games on p2p4u or channelsurfing…any other links?
UNCBrave
July 30th, 2009
6:46 pm
Chipper saying that the officiating in the league is down…..Calling out Hohn BIG TIME….Calling it 13 on 9…Chipper is a STUD
Robert
July 30th, 2009
6:47 pm
Lew – look in the mirror. A fat aging stoner who has never been able to hold a job is not the kinda guy whose opinions are highly regarded amongst those with more than a 5th grade education.
Kindly leave me (and my ying-yang) out of your feeble thoughts
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
6:47 pm
Who hit him, do you know?
That damn Greg Norton, that’s who…
Shadetree
July 30th, 2009
6:47 pm
I just hope Prado can keep it up for the long haul. Like the rest of the season. I agree that I could tolerate KJ on the team if Norton was gone and Conrad brought up. Conrad is a dirt player and I like that. I also believe his enthusiasm was contagious. If Infante comes back the middle of August it will be September 1st before he can get in a groove. Huddy needs to go to the pen because that would be easier on his arm right now. I think. I’m not a doctor you know.
TnBrian
July 30th, 2009
6:47 pm
McFann, Chipper apparantly understands this ump is looking for something,anything to get in a fight with a Braves player or coach so I don’t think anything will be said.
Shamus Thacker
July 30th, 2009
6:47 pm
“”Hohn does look like he would enjoy a good fisting”"
Preferably administered by a highly-aroused Sasquatch.
Heath
July 30th, 2009
6:47 pm
Check swings for left-handers will be interesting tonight.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
6:48 pm
“Robert – you nasty little man, give us an informed opinion, who do you want to manage instead of Mr Cox, please, put your money where your small mouth is please.. come on be a little more than a little wuss… go out on a limb”
I’ll repeat – Rick Dempsey
Second choice is find someone who believes in little ball
Third choice – anyone not named Hargrive, Valentine, or Lew
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
6:48 pm
There’ll be a big play at third tonight, bank on it.
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
6:50 pm
Braves Live is a little late on the “injury update” list. Fred Hickman showed a graphic that has Jeff Bennett still on the 15 day disabled list.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
6:50 pm
“who do you want to manage instead of Mr Cox”
I want ANYBODY to manage as long as it aint Cox
I’d accept it if NOBODY managed, because then Cox wouldnt be managing
Barack Obama
July 30th, 2009
6:50 pm
Hey Chipper, why don’t you and Mr. Hohn come on over for a beer
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
6:50 pm
Steve from OH–
TnBrian–
Good point.
Slugger - www.theweeklyscene.com
July 30th, 2009
6:50 pm
Robert -
Do you enjoy only posting when the Braves lose?
You’re captain *sshat of the blog, congrats!
Go join Hohn and fall off the face of the earth.
Perhaps Robert = Hohn, but that would imply Robert actually had a life.
We all know that can’t be true.
dogsbrekky (Robert is a hater)
July 30th, 2009
6:51 pm
Robert – oh come on, leave Lew alone, he actually forms opinions, argues and has something of value to say
You on the other hand are an impish sinle trick pony..
“Bobby Sucks”, all who like him are morons, yada yada yada
SO guess what most sports writers, baseball analysts and baseball players must be <<<<< you Robert
c’mon Bobby, give us something intellectual to discuss, maybe we could derive Einsteins Theory or you could tell us the best way to bake a cake…
…
what
wait
Exactly, nothing of vale to add in this here blog… go crawl in your hole hater
faninva
July 30th, 2009
6:51 pm
Robert –
I’m just stunned by your stupidity. It must be something. My best guess is, well, Adrian Cronauer from Good Morning Vietman said it best -”You are in more dire need of a blow*#$ than any man in history.”
Jay212033
July 30th, 2009
6:51 pm
I’d trade Prado for Bell in a heartbeat, hell i’d even add Manny Acosta and Brandon Jones! Our BP would be awesome with Gonzo, Sori and Bell at the end plus Infante would move right in and take over for Prado so why not make that deal if your the Braves?!?!
curtis jones
July 30th, 2009
6:52 pm
The fact that Hohn is even allowed in the ballpark tonight, much less umpiring the game, proves that MLB’s Umpire Evaluation process is a joke.
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
6:52 pm
A fat aging stoner who has never been able to hold a job is not the kinda guy whose opinions are highly regarded amongst those with more than a 5th grade education.
Ok, this is easily the most douchebaggy thing you’ve ever said.
A) A person’s age, occupation, race, religion, etc., etc., have absolutely NOTHING to do with their credibility to speak baseball here. None whatsoever. Unless, of course, you’re nolie, then you get bonus points. And you ain’t nolie.
B) What gives you the ability to look down on a man who does an honest day’s work? Are you that special? What type of super-awesome degree do you have!?
C) I have more than a 5th-grade education, and I value Lew’s opinion on here highly. Can’t say the same for you. Kindly piss off, ok?
Slugger - www.theweeklyscene.com
July 30th, 2009
6:52 pm
Jay -
Because Prado is going to hit .300 for many years to come.
That’s why you wouldn’t trade Prado.
Interested Observer
July 30th, 2009
6:52 pm
Bruce Froemming is an umpire supervisor now. He is arrogant SOB himself!
curtis jones
July 30th, 2009
6:53 pm
Jeff Bennett is released. And clubhouse doors throughout the league breathe a collective sigh of relief.
Lew
July 30th, 2009
6:53 pm
dogs-Thanks for the support, but he’s right-I weigh over 300 pounds. However, I can always lose weight. Robert will never grow a functional brain or develop a personality.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
6:55 pm
If you formed a committee with the express purpose of finding the WORST POSSIBLE manager for the Braves, you could search high and low for years and not come up with a better candidate than Bobby Cox
I’ll say it again – history will prove me right – Now the Cox apologists might not ever accept it, but history will prove me right
Slugger - www.theweeklyscene.com
July 30th, 2009
6:55 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpBGRA6HHtY
Hohn at his finest (above)
"Chef" Tim Dix
July 30th, 2009
6:55 pm
God, wouldn’t it be sweet if he was lookin’ for a scrap and Hoss ablidged? Just to freakin’ sweet. Imagine the beatdowm and the fist bumps to follow.
Necromancer
July 30th, 2009
6:55 pm
Felcher?
kelevra
July 30th, 2009
6:55 pm
up to date ellias rankings for our free agents:
r. soriano type A
m. gonzalez type A
g. anderson type B
FaninFaytown
July 30th, 2009
6:55 pm
I like the word chemictry
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
6:56 pm
McFann
It was probably Greg Norton who hit Prado…
The good news???? Norton makes contact…
dogsbrekky
July 30th, 2009
6:56 pm
Robert – relax, get some love in your heart and return..
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
6:56 pm
Lew Robert will never grow a functional brain or develop a personality.
Go get ‘im!!
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2009
6:56 pm
CHIPPER on the fist bump: “Shocking. But it kind of makes sense, [considering] how the ebb and flow of the way the game was called.”
“Never seen it before in my 16 years. [Players and umpires] exchange banter all the time, but never a handshake or a fist bump. I guess Baker thought he deserved a hand shake.”
Marc in FL
July 30th, 2009
6:57 pm
STOP IT!
Prado HAS NOT BEEN TRADED! Oliver is a known Met supporter who was just trying to clog our blog tonight with this BS trade. I listen to XM and can assure you that no such trade announcement was ever made. If a trade was made, some media outlet somewhere in the world would have mentioned it by now, none have. And it would be a stupid trade that would never realistically happen in the first place, so common sense tells you it’s probably not true. It’s just a Mutt screwing with you, let it die.
I repeat, THERE IS NO PRADO FOR BELL TRADE, IT DOESN’T EXIST.
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2009
6:57 pm
Braves thought ump Jerry Meals’ strike zone Tuesday was as inconsistent or worse than Hohn’s.
“The last two games’ performance by the officials is something that makes you sit back and wonder,” Jones said. “And as a player, it makes you not want to play when that stuff happens. Because you don’t have a chance.”
John
July 30th, 2009
6:58 pm
Mercy…I know injuries are part of the game but….I don’t believe Prado had anything BUT his ankle stickin’ out from behind that “protective” fence…and even THAT was exposed for only a second or two…I’d like to know the odds of that happening…
kelevra
July 30th, 2009
6:58 pm
wow blog ate the post anyway
soriano and gonzalez are currently type A free agents
g.anderson is a typ B
lexbrave
July 30th, 2009
6:58 pm
Bobby Cox – “I don’t know why, but I like Kawakami”
yeah, i don’t know either.
The A Bomb
July 30th, 2009
6:59 pm
Meals, Hohn, Darling. . . Who in the blue hell put this crew together.
Hohn needs to be with a strong crew chief. . . one that would have put a stop to that crap last night.
dogsbrekky
July 30th, 2009
6:59 pm
Lew – stop eating
sugar, processed foods, pasta, rice and bread
(all sugar really)
you will peel off the weight
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
7:00 pm
It’s amazing that a player can SUCK for the first half of the season, get sent to the minors on a rehab assignment, come back and go 4 for 5 and then get inserted into the #2 spot of the order.
Still, I’ll reserve judgment until after the game is over with as far as Kelly batting in the 2 hole is concerned.
Goodoleboy58
July 30th, 2009
7:00 pm
but Jeff Bennett was a type B free agent!
faninva
July 30th, 2009
7:01 pm
Paul – agreed.
VaBraveFan
July 30th, 2009
7:01 pm
Looks like will get some draft picks, after Anderson,Gonzo and Soriano depart
Blair
July 30th, 2009
7:02 pm
Chipper Jones is my favorite player and that is why. Chipper tells it like it is, and I respect him for it.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
7:02 pm
I mean , someone comes on here and makes a bogus trade post and y’all are running around chasing your tails in circles asking someone to verify it
Half the frickin peanut gallery believed it when someone posted that Blaine Boyer died a couple of weeks ago
It just helps to have a CLUE as to how to sort bs from good information (in other words,Steve, to know who to assign credibility to) –
kelevra
July 30th, 2009
7:02 pm
unbelievable, dodgers still trying to gte holliday, marlins trying to get nick johnson
woogidy
July 30th, 2009
7:02 pm
Bennett wasn’t a type b, he just was a little b
kelevra
July 30th, 2009
7:02 pm
halladay*
Jay212033
July 30th, 2009
7:02 pm
Slugger
Prado was playing well for a couple of weeks but lately he’s been slumping and hitting into a ton of key DPs like last night with runners on 1st and 3rd and 1 out, he hit into the inning ending DP. Prado’s a very nice utility player but Infante can easily take his place and we’d be getting a true closer.
lexbrave
July 30th, 2009
7:03 pm
can the braves not file a grievance against hohn? umps are supposed to be non biased.. it seems to me that one would deserve a suspension at the least for showing such obvious and blatent bias and unprofessionalism.
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
7:04 pm
Yeah I often give credibility to the ideas of a guy whose brain has been damaged by recreational drug use.
I prefer to give “brain-damaged” folks credibiity as opposed to “no-brained” folks like yourself. I’ll ask you again–what gives you the authority to dismiss an opinion like that? And what gives you the impunity to be a moral judge against what Lew does for a living. A day’s work is a day’s work, dude. Quite frankly, how dare you look down on someone else’s occupation? Is what you do for a living really that much better and more “honorable?” I don’t say this much, but you truly are a f’ing jackass.
JasonInFL
July 30th, 2009
7:04 pm
Robert, get a life…grow up and shut up. There is no place for that type of crap on here. I mean, I always knew you were a complete idiot lackin of an emotional intelligence at all…but, it could be tolerated with your hee-hawing, one-trick pony nonsense. Really, it just gives a lot of insight into what type of person you really are…not that it wasn’t already painfully obvious. You are right…you shouldn’t value the opinion of any one who has ever don recreational drugs…oops, there goes half of our college educators…
Bay Area Steve
July 30th, 2009
7:04 pm
Why do respectful, rational people continue trying to reason with the likes of that fool?
John
July 30th, 2009
7:05 pm
Paul
Stay off my boy Kelly tonight…he needs your support…tia
Ohh…and it’s 5-6…
Bravesfan54
July 30th, 2009
7:05 pm
Wayne in UT- could’nt agree more with you on Kawakami (not on Prado, ‘tho!). But dang KK throws a lot of pitches, I mean a tunnnnnn of ‘em.
dogsbrekky
July 30th, 2009
7:05 pm
Ok game time, have fun all
g’night and god bless and whatever I say to bless those atheists amongst us !
bigstack19
July 30th, 2009
7:06 pm
That idiot Hohn shouldn’t be allowed near a Braves game ever again. Clearly he has an ax to grind with the club and the fist bump was unprofessional.
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
7:06 pm
I need to learn who to assign credibility to? Seriously? Coming from you? Gimme a break.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
7:06 pm
“Quite frankly, how dare you look down on someone else’s occupation?”
I dont look down on his occupation. I look down on his choice to have wasted his brain with drugs to become a fat shiftless loser
Again, Lew started in on me , not the other way around
Lew
July 30th, 2009
7:07 pm
dogs-been doing just that for ten years-I’m diabetic. Don’t eat white carbs, soda, sugar or any other carb except green veggies and whole grains-It’s how I got the blood sugar under control.
However, I gained over a 100 pounds in two years AFTER they got the blood sugar under control (I weighed 190 when this all started). I’m taking 5 separate medications that list weight gain as a side effect. THAT’S the little thing they DON’T tell you.
Hate to tell Robert, but I haven’t had a Twinky for decades. Besides, nothing he can say about my weight is anything I haven’t head before from much more intelligent people than him. Let him rant on. He’s making a much bigger fool of himself than he can hope to make of me.
"Chef" Tim Dix
July 30th, 2009
7:07 pm
I think the Lew/Robert thing is to quote the Prez, “A teachable moment.”
Robert
July 30th, 2009
7:07 pm
“I need to learn who to assign credibility to? Seriously? Coming from you? Gimme a break”
Yup, you. Imagine that.
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
7:08 pm
Again, who gave you the authority to be a judge of other people’s morals and values, Robert? I’d love to see your explaination for this.
Heath
July 30th, 2009
7:09 pm
It’s time…to PLAY BALL!!!!
Let’s go Braves!
Goodoleboy58
July 30th, 2009
7:09 pm
Bennett in the latest rankings is still a type B free agent with a score of 64.248 ahead of about 18 pitchers still
Robert
July 30th, 2009
7:10 pm
“I’m taking 5 separate medications that list weight gain as a side effect”
Uh huh. I bet you a “gland problem” Basically what you are saying is you’re fat but its not your fault, your EXCUSE is the medication
No accountability, no responsibility – Of course, what would I expect of you
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
7:10 pm
Dogsb–the secret to weight loss is simple–calories in<calories out. No magic diet or anything. Control your portions and you’ll control your gut.
Roman Gal
July 30th, 2009
7:10 pm
Get ready as Chipper Jones and the Atlanta Braves take on Billy Hohn and the Florida Marlins.
VaBraveFan
July 30th, 2009
7:10 pm
Robert your a azzhole
KillerHohn
July 30th, 2009
7:10 pm
The Braves CAN and probably HAVE lodged a formal complaint against umpire Billy Hohn with the league office. I’m sure the league office was on top of what happened before they were contacted by the Braves. They monitor games just like fans do.
semiballcoach
July 30th, 2009
7:10 pm
those must be the sorriest 18 pitchers in the history of the game
jeff bennett—the billy hohn of pitchers
VaBraveFan
July 30th, 2009
7:10 pm
Roman Gal good one lol
Supes
July 30th, 2009
7:11 pm
Robert,
SHUT THE FRAK UP.
Lew,
Don’t encourage this person is ONLY capable of posting/commenting on ONE THING. BOBBY COX.
Hedley Lamarr
July 30th, 2009
7:11 pm
Robert, you’re the Bill Hohn of bloggers.
Oh, and you better hurry and grab your popcorn. WWE SmackDown is about to come on.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
7:12 pm
“Again, who gave you the authority to be a judge of other people’s morals and values, Robert? ”
I have a working rational brain. I give MYSELF the authority to not give credence to someone who admits they destroyed THEIR brain with drugs
You have a problem with that , then, well, then you have a problem Not me
faninva
July 30th, 2009
7:12 pm
what vabravefan said
Jman
July 30th, 2009
7:12 pm
Roger McDowell is AWESOME!!!!
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
7:12 pm
Ballgame!
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
7:13 pm
Good one RG. Funny.
Oh, and for Robert–glandular problems can in fact induce massive weight gain or loss if not identified or treated properly. But I’m sure you knew this already, right?
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
7:14 pm
9 back?
John
July 30th, 2009
7:14 pm
Paul dun put the “mojo”… on my boy Kelly….
Heath
July 30th, 2009
7:14 pm
2 up…2 strike outs.
VaBraveFan
July 30th, 2009
7:14 pm
looks like the braves got a big hole in there bat tonight
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
7:14 pm
You have a problem with that
Quite frankly? Yes, as your premises are, um…faulty at best.
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
7:14 pm
The Braves’ Aug. 16 home game against Philadephia has been changed to an 8:05 p.m. start to accommodate ESPN Sunday Night Baseball. It had been scheduled to start at 1:35 p.m.
Why is ESPN so un-accommodating when it comes to schedules (and the Braves)??
I liked the 1PM start better because they’re playing at 4PM the following afternoon while Philly has an off day
Lew
July 30th, 2009
7:14 pm
Robert-Yeah, while living in Florida, I listened to Morning Radio (happens when you do rock and roll artwork for a radio station-so much for not holding down a job). Felching was a topic of uproariousness some years back. Never knew anyone who had indulged though. At least before you
Heath
July 30th, 2009
7:15 pm
…guess Chipper didn’t want to K like the other guys.
Doc Holiday
July 30th, 2009
7:15 pm
Welcomeback KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKJ..
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
7:15 pm
Van Den Hurk just mouthed….’this is gonna be easy!’
Robert
July 30th, 2009
7:15 pm
And I’ll say, I’m 6 feet on a good day and closing in on 230 – in other words, a forty-ish fat ass. But I know the reason. It’s not side effects of a medication that “they” (the infamous they) didnt tell me about I eat too much. I accept responsibility for what my life is – instead of finding excuses
Hey Lew, if the side effect of the medication is weight gain, then if youre gonna take that medicine, you eat to EAT LESS
VaBraveFan
July 30th, 2009
7:15 pm
whats with Chipper being so aggresive latly….. he is always know for having a good AB working the count and getting a good pitch to hit, or drawing a walk
Doc Holiday
July 30th, 2009
7:16 pm
I read that the ball that struck Prado on the ankle was hit by Norton.
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
7:16 pm
Roman Gal Get ready as Chipper Jones and the Atlanta Braves take on Billy Hohn and the Florida Marlins.
Doc Holiday
July 30th, 2009
7:16 pm
Just kidding.
Lew
July 30th, 2009
7:16 pm
No Robert-Apparently it’s YOUR gland with the problem. Mr. Bozo.
UNCBrave
July 30th, 2009
7:16 pm
Agree, that we need to get ahead early in this game….
Not a good start, K K ground out
Mitchie-san
July 30th, 2009
7:16 pm
I have always thought of DOB being the Commanding Officer (CO) on this blog and Lew was the Executive Officer (XO).
You kinda dont mess with them.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
7:17 pm
“Felching was a topic of uproariousness some years back.”
Ive heard that people find most anything uproariously funny when they’re stoned. Guess it’s true
Rex
July 30th, 2009
7:17 pm
The Sunday night ESPN games suck if you are in from out of town. A long drive back to South Georgia after an 8pm game vs a 135 game.
I thought there was a limit as to how many times you could play on ESPN Sunday Night baseball of 3. I guess the limit is only how many times you can play Sunday night games at home though.
Lew
July 30th, 2009
7:18 pm
Robert-Time to go play with yourself some more. I’m going to go watch the game. I’ll keep my pants zipped, though. You? Not once Bobby makes a call to the bullpen you don’t agree with. Rapture awaits you. Hee Haw. Grunt, grunt.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
7:18 pm
“Quite frankly? Yes, as your premises are, um…faulty at best.”
I’m confidant you’ll find a way to deal with your dislike of me. Happy trails
Lew
July 30th, 2009
7:21 pm
Yeah, that’s me. Antagonistic Buffalo Butt. Later.
Heath
July 30th, 2009
7:21 pm
The blimp view of the stadium made it look like there was about 500 people at the game. Whew.
a643dp
July 30th, 2009
7:22 pm
If Prado is hurt we need Brooks Conrad back by the 3rd inning.
the hopes of the braves nation rest in your hands mr. hanson
July 30th, 2009
7:22 pm
to get those compensatory draft picks….you must first offer arbitration, right? if so, you would think that anderson and maybe gonzo would except it…
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
7:22 pm
maybe added motivation should be to have in their minds that if they lose again they’re back at their old stomping grounds of .500 baseball
Heath
July 30th, 2009
7:23 pm
Good start for JV.
UNCBrave
July 30th, 2009
7:23 pm
Nice inning By Vasquez
Redstick19
July 30th, 2009
7:23 pm
Woooooooo, wait a minute. Blaine Boyer died?
(that was a joke, but I remember that post and remembered it was not funny at all until people started believing it just because it was posted on this blog. Talk about credibility issues for some of you.)
Heath
July 30th, 2009
7:23 pm
Mets threatening early….could there possible be a series sweep?
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
7:24 pm
Oh, and before I leave you to your unhappy existence, I would be remiss if I didn’t point out that there isn’t much evidence to support your theory that one’s high-level reasoning and thinking abilites are significantly impaired by moderate marijuana usage. There is some debate about memory, but in terms of high-level reasoning activities, you’re off-base from what I gathered, never mind your claim that it “destroys your brain.” The most significant adverse effects are likely pulmonary. Hence, at least one of your premises is faulty. Shall I continue?
VaBraveFan
July 30th, 2009
7:25 pm
so how does offering arbritration work? Anderson Makes 2mil this year what would the arbritration offer be?
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
7:25 pm
Nice to see Mac go the other way
Vinings Jim
July 30th, 2009
7:26 pm
McFann – I seem to remember someone likes her some doubles!
Heath
July 30th, 2009
7:26 pm
Woo hoo…no 0-fer for McCann tonight.
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
7:26 pm
Way to go get that pitch Mac.
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
7:26 pm
here’s that situation where if they really need to score him
rik
July 30th, 2009
7:26 pm
Why is KJ who is batting 228 playing instead of Prado who is hot. Bobby is to old for this job and needs to go
Fred Frustration
July 30th, 2009
7:27 pm
DOB and the Blog,
How can I listen to the Braves online? Is there a free site anywhere?
Thanks,
Fred
John
July 30th, 2009
7:27 pm
Hohn was givin’ McCann the “stink eye”…
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
7:27 pm
V. Jim–
Yeah…who was that?
Heath
July 30th, 2009
7:27 pm
GA is productive even when he’s making outs right now…
Vinings Jim
July 30th, 2009
7:29 pm
DAMN!
CrimeDog
July 30th, 2009
7:29 pm
Ouch.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
7:29 pm
ohhhh no…I getting worried…Prado….now Escobar
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
7:29 pm
Mets threatening early….could there possible be a series sweep? Heath
Mets are quietly becoming an awesome Major League Baseball National League baseball team in spite of their injuries.
Frenchie is on fire !!
UNCBrave
July 30th, 2009
7:29 pm
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO…Not Escobar
ACCTDAWG
July 30th, 2009
7:29 pm
ouch
Heath
July 30th, 2009
7:29 pm
OK Kotchy…no DPs. Maybe Bobby tries a little hit-n-run?
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
7:29 pm
Noooooo…..Esco.
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2009
7:30 pm
Prado and Escobar hurt on same night … you gotta be kidding.
Doesn’t look like Escobar’s is serious. Staying in
Bravesfan54
July 30th, 2009
7:30 pm
Talk of Smoltz back here is insane. The relationship ended on a bitter tone, and the fortunes of this man and his former team do not make for a homecoming, reconcilition – much less a division flag or w/c slot. We were right not to pay 5-5 for him then, and he’s isn’t looking back for us now. But take heart, he’s will be a Brave in the end. His challenge now is to earn a salary behind his present potential. That 7 ERA will be a long time coming back to respectability. (Even Maddox in his last year had a 7 inning 69 pitch SO – in an otherwise bleak year, but that “flash of brilliance” was nothing more than a reminder. IMHO Smoltz has a couple of those left, but nobody is going to claim he earned 5-5.
ACCTDAWG
July 30th, 2009
7:30 pm
I looked like it hit the part that was already wrapped. That would certainly take some of the sting out of it.
Vinings Jim
July 30th, 2009
7:31 pm
CASEY! – sorry cabravesfan missed her boy!
Jeff321
July 30th, 2009
7:31 pm
Kotchman brings home to bacon!
CrimeDog
July 30th, 2009
7:31 pm
Kotch money
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
7:31 pm
Time for a fastball to the ribs of one Hanley Ramirez…
ACCTDAWG
July 30th, 2009
7:31 pm
SMASHED!
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
7:31 pm
Esco is hurt. Evident on that slide.
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
7:31 pm
yayz, kotchy gets it done!
VaBraveFan
July 30th, 2009
7:31 pm
Kotch!!!!!
Heath
July 30th, 2009
7:31 pm
Kothy…clutch there. Needed to get on top early.
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
7:31 pm
Oh that Casey…just never delivers.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
7:32 pm
yeah Kotchman is KILLING US…..
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
7:32 pm
Kotchy!!
If BMac doesn’t watch out, Casey’s gonna pass him in the RBI department!
Cheese
July 30th, 2009
7:32 pm
Ding Dong the Bennett’s Gone, the Bennett’s gone, the Bennett’s gone…Ding Dong the wicked Bennett’s Gone
Wa Hoo Kotchman doubled!!! Wahooooooooo
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
7:33 pm
Nice rip by Kotchman there. I have Kotchman, Escobar, and McCann all on my fantasy baseball team tonight…..to go along with Chipper, Garrett, McLouth and Prado (I wish that I knew he wasnt going to start tonight).
The reason I picked all these Braves tonight is because I felt that the Braves were due for a big offensive performance tonight. I felt a possible 10 game burst tonight. I hope I’m right.
Land Shark Stadium
July 30th, 2009
7:33 pm
Candygram. Section 214.
Casey Kotchman
July 30th, 2009
7:33 pm
How do like me now?
CrimeDog
July 30th, 2009
7:34 pm
Paul-
It will be hard for Bobby to put in “his boy” Jeff Bennet now, don’t you think? But I thought we could “bank on” him coming back?
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
7:34 pm
I serious about somebody should get drilled from Florida
VaBraveFan
July 30th, 2009
7:34 pm
Good AB for Javy working count and putting it in play, nice to See a early lead
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
7:34 pm
look at Javy, making him work with 6 pitches that at-bat
Vinings Jim
July 30th, 2009
7:35 pm
Major rain here – probably won’t reach the stadium as quickly from here as it would if they were at the Ted.
bravefaninok
July 30th, 2009
7:35 pm
I think kotchy has found his stroke .Hitting with authority lately !
uga-brave
July 30th, 2009
7:35 pm
diaz two at bats this series, seen two pitches.
John
July 30th, 2009
7:36 pm
Hanley’s ribs ain’t goin’ nowhere….so…hopefully wait til the bottom of the 9th….with a 5 run lead….then crack a rib or 2….and get outta town….
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
7:36 pm
Diory at short…ohhhhh no
ACCTDAWG
July 30th, 2009
7:36 pm
and Esco goes out…great…
PWHjort
July 30th, 2009
7:36 pm
Just another reason to hate the Marlins.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
7:37 pm
John
I would much rather Soriano crush Ramirez in the ribs anyway
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
7:37 pm
Unreal. Both Prado and Escobar not playing now. My fantasy team is taking a hit tonight.
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
7:38 pm
Should Wren stand pat? Yea, might as well. [/sacasm]
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
7:38 pm
Prado, Church, Escobar in one day???
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
7:38 pm
I’m sorry I missed that segment on Prado…did they say anything relevant?
nolie
July 30th, 2009
7:38 pm
That damn Kotchman just refuses to drive in any runs.Dude is KILLING us!!!!
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
7:38 pm
[/sarcasm]* ~_~
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
7:38 pm
Toldja Esco was hurt, but don’t listen to me, I know NOTHING about baseball.
There’s our ballgame.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
7:38 pm
Paul Lentz…
I have Prado and Escobar in my Fantasy as well
KnightInATL
July 30th, 2009
7:38 pm
pray that its just a bruise…
UNCBrave
July 30th, 2009
7:39 pm
Be prepared….Hernandez at SS and KJ at 2B tomorrow as well..
Let’s hope its just tomorrow
SoWeGa Fanatic
July 30th, 2009
7:39 pm
Robert, your and idiot.
a643dp
July 30th, 2009
7:39 pm
If escobars arm/wrist is broken and prado is out we need to sell sell sell. Season will be over and it all happened in 2 hours.
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
7:40 pm
If anyone on this staff has the cajones to plunk someone…..it’s Javy.
Stick one in Uggla’s ear Javy !
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
7:40 pm
UNCBraves
I’m prepared for that as well…
Emergency call up Conrad and DFA Norton
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
7:41 pm
Mixxo…
Is that actually how you spell cajones???? lol
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
7:41 pm
Nova Scotia Steve……………I usually spread out my daily picks on my fantasy team. However, I just “felt” like the Braves were going to put at least a 10 spot up today. However, 2 of the guys I had starting arent in the line-up right now.
Nice inning by Vazquez.
John
July 30th, 2009
7:41 pm
I’m gettin’ prepared for some “Brooks Conrad at SS” posts…
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
7:43 pm
If I was Javy or another Braves pitcher, I’d let someone get to third on purpose. Then to chase the runner back to third, take a misstep throw it right at Hohn ~_~
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
7:43 pm
That’s great…that is great! Church hurt…Prado hurt…Escobar hurt…
Wayne in Utah
July 30th, 2009
7:44 pm
Don’t have the time to go back and try to figure out what’s going on. What is the deal with Escobar (HBP on the wrist???), Prado (I thought he was just resting today) and Church???
Thanks in advance.
Interested Observer
July 30th, 2009
7:44 pm
Can’t afford any ejections tonight.
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
7:44 pm
Nova Scotia Steve –
I think so Steve, but I’m about as far from Messican as one can get. Not bad for a Norwegian though.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
7:44 pm
“Get In My Pocket…?” LOL Hoss Classic Quote…
VaBraveFan
July 30th, 2009
7:45 pm
Nate is striking out alot…..
Supes
July 30th, 2009
7:45 pm
Really good piece by Chris Vivlamore in the AJC (newspaper) today on Brooks Conrad.
I already liked the guy b/c he played well when he was here, but after reading that you can’t help but want him to get a shot to play somewhere in the majors (even as a bench player).
I bet that Conrad is called up tomorrow, if either Esco or Prado have to miss any significant amount.
Diory Hernandez is an inferior defender/thrower and a subpar hitter.
Braves a huge loss without Esco on the field.
Fraking shame, let’s hope nothing serious. Maybe taken out as a precaution?
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
7:45 pm
P-Lentz,
Where In Tarnation have you’ve been during the game…?
I missed ya on here…
Falcons Fan
July 30th, 2009
7:45 pm
Bill Hohn is the poster child for steroids. If umpires aren’t being tested then they should be. This dude is out of control.
P-Town Brave
July 30th, 2009
7:45 pm
I’m beyond sick and tired of our players being hit!
Ramirez needs to take a 94 mph Vazquez fastball right in the numbers…front, back, it doesn’t matter…
When is someone other than Lowe or O’Flaherty going to stick up for their teammates?!
Driver8
July 30th, 2009
7:45 pm
Is it me or is anyone else thinking can we get out of Florida any faster… this has been a nightmare of a trip! Too much drama and now injuries. All I can say is YUCK! A win tonight would help but I for one have had enough of this place for a while.
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
7:46 pm
CrimeDog……..go back and read my posting at 6:41pm if you want my explanation to your 7:34pm posting.
Interested Observer
July 30th, 2009
7:46 pm
Wayne: Prado was going to be rested but he got hit with a liner in BP, getting Xrays on his ankle. Church aggravated his elbow last night.
Bravesfan54
July 30th, 2009
7:46 pm
On the Pirates – I know, I know “who the hell cares”, but the economics of limited revenue sharing and the luxury tax is such that a team with a low payroll can indeed turn a profit (same economics creates FA millionaires) with low risk. Purely from an economic perspective, consider the $16-20m profits of teams like the Rays, Pirates of 6-7 years ago versus the losses of high salaried teams like the Orioles of the same years. Which business model do you like as an owner? The Steinbrenner money alone can cover a lot of your operating losses w/o the first turnstyle click. A little simplistic, maybe, but you look at the Tampa’s, the Pittsburgs, and KC’s year after year (TB still is bottom five in attendance, and those Aubry Huff t’s aren’t bringing it either), and you know what’s going on: socialism of the diamond. Hey, this is America, I love it.
garlick
July 30th, 2009
7:47 pm
Dave, I appreciate you mentioning the PED story on Big Pappi & Manny. One thing I would like to mention that really upsets me about yours and other coverage, and don’t take this as me just attacking you, is that the PED testing is broader than roids, and 90% of the substances on the banned IOC list are actually things other than roids, and about 50% of those are sold as over counter supplements at your local GNC & Vitamin Shoppe, or have valuable uses as prescription medications.
So while it is fine to be surprised by the names, and it’s not OK to be on that list, as the IOC and the testing community finds most of those substances to give you a definitive advantage, they’re not just roids.
We get into dangerous grounds when we start lumping things like stimulants, pain killers, beta blockers & anti depresents, which are all on the IOC banned list, as roids.
ACCTDAWG
July 30th, 2009
7:47 pm
Prado hit by liner in BP in the ankle (currently getting x-rayed); Escobar HBP in the wrist area (just left the game); Church was scratched for shoulder inflammation (probably nothing serious there)
Frank Drebin
July 30th, 2009
7:48 pm
Are you calling me a dastardly ump?
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
7:48 pm
Lets see…
Esco hurt
Prado hurt or traded
Church hurt
Mets on fire
We’re in a world of hurt all of a sudden.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
7:48 pm
Nasty Storm On In Henry County As Well
Y’all Know That I got That Southside On Deck…!
WTH is up with the Rain this Year? The Last week has felt like being in Florida…
I’m Ready for the Football/College Party Weather…!
UNCBrave
July 30th, 2009
7:49 pm
I seriously doubt Prado will be traded
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
7:50 pm
P-Town Brave!
Co-Sign On Your Last Post…!
I’m Tired of our hitters getting drilled and our Bitchers Not Retialiating!
IT seems Like Hanson has been the only only one to retialiate and that happened in S. Training against the Stros…
Wayne in Utah
July 30th, 2009
7:50 pm
IO and ACCTDAWG
Thanks! (shoulder inflammation ain’t nothing to sneeze at)
SoWeGa Fanatic
July 30th, 2009
7:50 pm
Jeff Porter should ask for a raise tonight.
a643dp
July 30th, 2009
7:50 pm
DOB,
Get on your scrubs and pose as a medical assistant. You go a Fletch look to ya. Get the blog the inside scoop on our boys.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
7:52 pm
KJ Gets Traded Tomorrow for a middle reliever and a minor leaguer…”Bank On It!”
I love KJ but he needs a Change of Scenery for Real!
I hate seeing him on the bench…we just don’t have a spot/role on this team ever since MP started to become the Team MVP….
Braves Fan
July 30th, 2009
7:52 pm
Our best player gets hit and nobody does a damn thing. The first Marlin up to bat should have been plunked. Get some balls Braves!
wow
July 30th, 2009
7:53 pm
WEAK HIT
CrimeDog
July 30th, 2009
7:53 pm
Paul-
I’m sure the “rehab assignment” was more posturing by the Braves in light of the grievance. Once you suspend someone’s pay, that seems to be the point of no return. It doesn’t happen very often. It’s ok, I know that you know you were wrong. No one expects you to “know” what Bobby is going to do even though you steadfastly claim that you do.
Tebow for President
July 30th, 2009
7:54 pm
Its almost football time!!! And time for the GATORS to go back to back NATIONAL CHAMPS!!!
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
7:54 pm
a643dp –
Ya know, he even kinda looks like Fletch.
‘….it’s ALL ball bearings nowadays…’
John
July 30th, 2009
7:55 pm
FYI….everybody knew the guy was gonna bunt….Pitcher threw 3 breakin’ balls…THE toughest pitch to bunt….NOT the fastball….(unless it’s a letter high fastball)
Wayne in Utah
July 30th, 2009
7:56 pm
Has Vazquez drilled anybody yet?
Steve
July 30th, 2009
7:57 pm
The first thing that I would do to that loser umpire is shave off his 70’s porn star mustache. The second thing I would do is make him officiate his next game behind the plate without any protective equipment. Of course this would be when the Braves are playing. The last bit of punishment would be make him throw BP to the Braves from 20 feet with no screen in front of him. After all of that we should never have an issue with him again! Looks like Conrad will be back up tomorrow night? Prado will probably be out for some games and Escobar looks like it will be the same for him.
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
7:57 pm
CrimeDog……….I’ve been watching Bobby Cox manage a long time to get a good read on how he manages, particularly when it comes to “his boys”. Bennett was one of “his boys”.
I’m beginning to think that the “pay grievance” thing was Frank Wren’s way to trying to get rid of Bennett without telling Bobby, “look Bennett is a bum, I’m going to cut him”.
Just like the Francoeur trade, I’m sure that Bobby wasnt thrilled to see one of “his boys” gotten rid of. Now if Frank Wren can find some way to get rid of Greg Norton without pissing off Bobby Cox.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
7:59 pm
Just Imagine Loaf’s Stats if he had runners on since he has been Clowning over the last 2 months Plus…
John
July 30th, 2009
7:59 pm
Paul
Yeah…THAT’S the ticket….
PWHjort
July 30th, 2009
8:00 pm
LOL, Boog, Jamie Moyer has one season of 150+ K’s.
Doug Eddings
July 30th, 2009
8:00 pm
Bill Hohn sucks worse at calling a game than I do……..(running away from a charging Marcus Giles)
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
8:00 pm
Is Pedro considered “active?”
Bob Davidson
July 30th, 2009
8:01 pm
Yeah, Hohn Balked on that fistbump last night
Wayne in Utah
July 30th, 2009
8:01 pm
Paul
Obviously, you haven’t been watching close enough, because Bobby has 25 “boys” on his team. That’s the way he always has been. You must not be astute enough to notice, huh.
I really tire of this “his boys” BS. Not a bit of truth to it!
CrimeDog
July 30th, 2009
8:01 pm
Paul-
It’s amazing all of the insight you have without ever having been in Bobby or Frank’s office, or the Braves’ clubhouse. I mean, it’s great to have these theories based on zero facts. But trust me…I can promise you…Jeff Bennett was NOT one of Bobby’s “boys.”
Heath
July 30th, 2009
8:03 pm
Wayne -
With only a 2-0 lead, I doubt JV will be drilling anyone any time soon.
Wayne in Utah
July 30th, 2009
8:04 pm
Two guys on the bench, if Church can’t go. Ouch!
(I am waiting for Robert to blame that one on Bobby too!)
McFann Ô
July 30th, 2009
8:04 pm
McCann’s gonna have more K’s than RBI pretty soon, it would appear…
Dan Kolb
July 30th, 2009
8:04 pm
Can I pitch tonight?
Wayne in Utah
July 30th, 2009
8:05 pm
Heath
A nice high and tight one to Ramirez is all that is needed. No need to make any big fuss after that.
Nate the GR8
July 30th, 2009
8:05 pm
I hope Esco is alright
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
8:05 pm
We Have Guts Going Hurt into the series against the Dodgers…Not Good!
I think we lose 2 of the to the dodgers as Joe Torre will Out Manage Bobby, “Bank On It”!
This Series and the off day killed our momentum…
As It stands Right Now we Need Either Chipper or B-Macc to get “En Fuego!” and carry the team for 2 weeks or so…
We Need them to show out Bad during the stretch, And Especially since that we will not make any trades for a bat which we don’t need…
Zephyr 8
July 30th, 2009
8:05 pm
Agree with Wayne
Bobby has 25 of “his boys” on the roster. An example is the Dwayne Wise story from when he first joined the braves that was out about a week ago. Thats why players want to play for Bobby Cox.
Dan Kolb
July 30th, 2009
8:05 pm
Frank should sign me and my boy Reitsma for the stretch run
CrimeDog
July 30th, 2009
8:05 pm
Wayne-
But one of those guys is Greg Norton! Yay!
Mike J
July 30th, 2009
8:06 pm
Thats 6 strike outs so far and its only the 4th inning. Our offense seems to have slumbered yet again. And all it took was a visit to the Marlins. Ouch. FW better plan on doing something to this offense in the offseason, because tinkering isnt going to cut it. We need some major work. We need power at 1st and power in the outfield. Nate sure hasnt been anything special since coming over here. Hope that changes.
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
8:06 pm
VandenHurk had but 7 Ks in 11 innings before tonight. Right now he has 6 in 4 innings
Wayne in Utah
July 30th, 2009
8:06 pm
Let’s see if JV has any cajones!
Heath
July 30th, 2009
8:07 pm
Wayne -
Hitting is fine, but no need to put men on base with a close game right now.
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
8:07 pm
If I knew that neither Prado nor Ryan Church werent going to start tonight……and that Yunel was going to get hit by a pitch and have to leave the game, I would have went in a WAY DIFFERENT direction with my fantasy team tonight. I dont have much confidence in either Diory Hernandez or Kelly Johnson (despite his 5 for 6 streak) helping extend potential rallies.
Hopefully these 2 runs will hold up for Vazquez.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
8:07 pm
Wayne…
Co-Sign on your last post…
Our Pitchers Need to do “Brushbacks More”…Keep hitters who kill us like Soriano and Pujols Honest…
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
8:08 pm
Tomahawkin, looking at your last post you capitalize some of the weirdest words in the weirdest places
Wayne in Utah
July 30th, 2009
8:08 pm
CrimeDog
On a night like tonight, all we need is a guy who is breathing, and can pick up and swing a bat. Norton will do just fine.
A little disappointed in JV for not sending a short message to their top dog.
ACCTDAWG
July 30th, 2009
8:09 pm
wow, Carrabas has turned to actually interupting innings….hahaha
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
8:09 pm
We need a win tonight more than plunking Ramirez
DOB's Mom
July 30th, 2009
8:12 pm
Usually I say “ballgame” but with no Prado or Escobar, I’ll just say SEASON!
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
8:14 pm
Matt’s always in “an 0-2 hole” WTF?
Steve
July 30th, 2009
8:14 pm
Bennett is finally gone. I liked the guy at first but there was definitely something wrong in that head of his. Hey at least we don’t have Corky Miller as our back up catcher and Wickman as our closer. Hohn might be a great guy off the field but he is being paid well to be a Professional on it and he ain’t getting the job done. Down with Hohn! When are we going to send Acosta back down? Great fastball but he always seems to give up runs in close games. Is Conrad here yet? Hernandez great glove, light bat! Church is fragile and 30. Francouer was durable and 25. Did we get the worse end of the deal? McLouth has never hit for average but he will steal you a base rarely get caught and can hit for some power. Pretty good range in CF but not sure about his arm strength? Do the Braves call up Heyward this August? I say if they are out of the Pennant race no way. Do we chance rushing him too soon like we did Frenchy? Can we bring McGriff or Galarraga out of retirement? I’m glad to see AJ hitting again in Texas. Always liked him but he would not have did that in Atlanta this year. Too much pressure and he’s where he needs to be! Is Texas the Midwest Braves now? heck they almost look like they are a farm team for us with all of our former players!
7
July 30th, 2009
8:14 pm
After further review from last night, Bobby did a great job not to have kicked Bill’s (ump) a@@. The ump should be waterboarded. Teach his a@@ some manners.
Frank Drebin
July 30th, 2009
8:15 pm
Anyone need a good umpire?
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
8:15 pm
CrimeDog…………If Bennett wasnt one of “Bobby’s boys”, then why did Bobby Cox keep using a guy like Jeff Bennett in key 6th and 7th inning situations? Bennett has always been a BUM. Throws a very hittable fastball.
Frank Wren isnt a dumb guy. The reason why he didnt have success in his one year as GM of the Orioles was because he had an owner, Peter Angelos, who made the Ted Turner of the mid-80’s seem like a hands off owner.
From what I’ve been able to see of Frank Wren since he took over as GM of the Braves…….he is about making moves that will improve the Braves. Activating Greg Norton does not seem like a move that Frank Wren would “willingly” make on his own. Do you guys really think that Frank Wren believes that Greg Norton is going to “turn it around”? What logic was there in keeping Greg Norton over Brooks Conrad when Kelly Johnson was activated? Come on, lets be real here.
Virginia Ranger
July 30th, 2009
8:15 pm
Lets go yard so Javy does not need to run the bases. NO No No on the bunt
Heath
July 30th, 2009
8:16 pm
…another thing we need more than a plunking…is for McLouth to get out of this slump.
Dan
July 30th, 2009
8:16 pm
It was great to see that the Braves released Jeff Bennett. He was a marginal pitcher at best. Who was called up to replace him on the roster? Or does this mean that a trade for a reliever is in the offering, ie,,,, Ron Mahay???
Any chance the Braves would package Medlan and Kotchman for Victor Martinez???
Information/Opinions anyone????
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2009
8:16 pm
Escobar contusion above right wrist, no X-ray, day-to-day
Prado contusion above left ankle, no X-ray needed, day-to-day
DOB's Mom
July 30th, 2009
8:16 pm
McLouth is just a more expensive Schafer.
the hopes of the braves nation rest in your hands mr. hanson
July 30th, 2009
8:17 pm
nate needs a day off….but who would play for him?
Shamus Thacker
July 30th, 2009
8:17 pm
I like Kotchman. Couple folks today said Prado should be moved to 1st, KJ to second. Prado’s hitting advantage over Kotch is not significant enough to make-up for the HUGE drop-off in 1st-base defense.
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
8:17 pm
lose an Andruw gain an Andruw (McLouth)
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
8:17 pm
Nate, you’re not gettin’ it done son. Just bad.
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
8:17 pm
Nate goes for 4 Ks his next at-bat
Cactus Jack
July 30th, 2009
8:17 pm
Im with you on the waterboarding of BIll Hohn. BANG! BANG!
semiballcoach
July 30th, 2009
8:17 pm
can’t wait for billy hohn fist pump bobble-head night
a643dp
July 30th, 2009
8:17 pm
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
8:17 pm
If Ryan Church wasnt hurt, I’d be in favor of giving McLouth a day off to clear his mind. He is not looking good at the plate right now.
deano54
July 30th, 2009
8:17 pm
Thats good news,,,thanks DOB
the hopes of the braves nation rest in your hands mr. hanson
July 30th, 2009
8:17 pm
thanks DOB on the quick update on both of those guys! thats good news!
Driver8
July 30th, 2009
8:17 pm
Before we all start drinking the Jim Jones Juice Mix lets wait and see if the injuries are serious or just day to day.
Yes, this will put a dampner on the Dodger series but we will have to have some guys step up for a few games until we get them back. This is wishful thinking of course. The other result obviously will be season over for sure.
a643dp
July 30th, 2009
8:17 pm
Good Job Fletch. LOL
Frank Drebin
July 30th, 2009
8:18 pm
So basically what DOB is saying…bruises…
It happens…
We can all stop holding our breath
AMG
July 30th, 2009
8:18 pm
Ryan Church can play center field
Driver8
July 30th, 2009
8:18 pm
Thanks DOB … I should have refreshed before I typed that post.
Frank Drebin
July 30th, 2009
8:19 pm
Good for you DOB…you had it first!
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
8:19 pm
Hmm, my comment never posted.
Paul Lentz – I understand what you’re saying about Bobby’s “boys”, but I think you’re misreading it to be honest. We didn’t have a better solution at CF, so JS got a lot of chances, I think everyone in the Braves franchise was praying for Francour to get hot (Wren was counting on it), Prado was hurt and with Infante on the DL it was KJ or bust for a while. He did have a long leash with Bennett, and I don’t know why, for that matter, I don’t know why he ever made it to the majors to begin with, but hey, every team has a horrible reliever or two and many stay on the staff all year.
Shamus Thacker
July 30th, 2009
8:19 pm
“”lose an Andruw gain an Andruw (McLouth)”"
Not exaquee. Andruw covered center like cudzu. McLouth is good out there, but no Andruw.
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
8:20 pm
Frenchie’s up! Update forthcoming!
the hopes of the braves nation rest in your hands mr. hanson
July 30th, 2009
8:20 pm
wow. two loafs on the left side…
Frank Drebin
July 30th, 2009
8:20 pm
I think Anderson took a bite of that guys hotdog before he threw it in
DOB's Mom
July 30th, 2009
8:20 pm
Why did Chipper just stare at that ball? That was pathetic. That is why we are a bottom feeder team.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
8:21 pm
ChurchMan
Sorry…Bro
I usually chat on Facebook Simultaneously while typing on the blog…
I gotta stop multi-tasking…
CrimeDog
July 30th, 2009
8:21 pm
Paul-
Jeff Bennett was put in those situations because the other alternative was an overworked Peter Moylan, who you hate just about as much as Bennett from what I can gather. You just can’t wave a wand and pull four all-star relievers out of a hat and put them in your pen.
the hopes of the braves nation rest in your hands mr. hanson
July 30th, 2009
8:21 pm
damn….there goes the wild card.
Frank Drebin
July 30th, 2009
8:21 pm
OMG…are you hearing this Florida rumor of Bell and Gonzalez to the Marlins
HUDDY
July 30th, 2009
8:21 pm
YELLING…..LOUD NOISES…… MAD AT DOB
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2009
8:22 pm
My mom knows very little about baseball, but she’s not nearly that ignorant about the sport (8:16 p.m.)
CrimeDog
July 30th, 2009
8:22 pm
Wow the Marlins would be pretty sick if they got Adrian and Bell.
Driver8
July 30th, 2009
8:22 pm
Are you hearing this?????? Heath Bell and AGonzalez to Florida? The Braves announcers are talking about this on the broadcast. They said its buzzing around the press box.
Cactus Jack
July 30th, 2009
8:22 pm
Man, another foot to the right and it would have got Hohn in the melon
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
8:22 pm
I have Adrian’s Gonzalez Topps Traded Rookie Card, Yay!
Tomahawk Talk
July 30th, 2009
8:22 pm
http://sites.google.com/site/atlchop/
new stuff!
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
8:22 pm
“That is why we are a bottom feeder team”
–
and what do you call the Nats who are actually at the bottom?
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
8:23 pm
Nice grab Nate
o-me
July 30th, 2009
8:23 pm
Yes AJ was good but not anymore. Why keep on about AJ and JF….its over.
Good job Nate.
the hopes of the braves nation rest in your hands mr. hanson
July 30th, 2009
8:23 pm
yeah! the braves release jeff bennett!
Driver8
July 30th, 2009
8:23 pm
DOB please say this aint true!!! This would stink big time for us!!!!!
Steve
July 30th, 2009
8:24 pm
Just be happy we are not Pirate fans. I grew up in Western PA for the first 15 years of my life but I am totally ashamed at what that Ownership has done to it’s fans in Pittsburgh. It would be like if Rankin Smith decided to buy the Braves right now. Steelers win the Superbowl, Penguins win Lord Stanley and the Pirates play MLB yard sale again. I will always be a Steelers fan, Braves fan and while I follow the Pirates I will never cheer for them again like I once did. Watch out Javy is having his typical hiccup inning right now in the 5th. Ok maybe he will get out of it. Could you imagine if Hohn would have thrown Rocker out of the game?? Bring back Rocker for one game with that Mullett that he was rockin and let him take on Hohn in a no holds barred deathmatch!
Mike in LA
July 30th, 2009
8:24 pm
Goes to show you what those online fielding ratings are worth. Mcclouth has been solid in center since coming over. Defensive liability my a**
Vinings Jim
July 30th, 2009
8:24 pm
cabravesfan – have you made it home yet? Your Chardonnay is ready.
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
8:24 pm
Frenchie – sac fly
Mets 1
Rox 0
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
8:24 pm
Boog’s a smart guy, but I would almost certainly move Adrian Gonzalez for Stanton, Maybin and Miller…
Cactus Jack
July 30th, 2009
8:24 pm
No way the Padres trade Adrian Gonzales.
the hopes of the braves nation rest in your hands mr. hanson
July 30th, 2009
8:25 pm
i dont know about that adrian/heath bell rumor…. that would put them over the top in the wild card race imo. but mlbtraderumors says that are in good shape to land nick johnson…. so who knows?
cabravesfan
July 30th, 2009
8:25 pm
VJ-
just got home, poured a glass, turned on the game
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
8:25 pm
But Boog, the Pads aren’t going to compete in 2010 or 2011 in all likelihood…
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
8:27 pm
Is Vazquez a NL Cy Young Candidate????
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
8:28 pm
He should be…
DOB's Mom
July 30th, 2009
8:28 pm
What would Kenny Powers do?
BravesfaninMD
July 30th, 2009
8:28 pm
Braves need to score some runs here!!!!!
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
8:28 pm
Ya know if the Braves can win tonight I might be a bit happy to face the Dodgers. They’re not scoring a lot (the Braves have good pitching) and they’ve lost 5 of their last 6. Plus the Braves played pretty good before going on the road (Milwaukee an exception of course).
If they can win tonight they might can win 3-4 in a row (and then they face the Padres after that)
UNCBrave
July 30th, 2009
8:28 pm
WHy not put Paulino on 1st and pitch to the pitcher??? Javy gave a run away right there….
Mike in LA
July 30th, 2009
8:28 pm
i like diaz but he sure takes a long time to transfer the ball out of his glove
Driver8
July 30th, 2009
8:28 pm
Nice play McCann!!! Good short hop dig and nice throw to get Paulino!
Steve
July 30th, 2009
8:29 pm
MD needs to keep working with his P90X. Throw was way off line but Mr. Allstar may a great throw to second.
Chris
July 30th, 2009
8:29 pm
Anything fishy about Esco getting beaned, or just an accident?
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
8:29 pm
Lol, giving up Maybin for Adrian Gonzalez? Even if that was a stright up the Marlins would be getting the short end of the trade, unless Maybin’s really gone downhill quick.
Jman
July 30th, 2009
8:29 pm
Weird that Joe and Boog mentioned that… I just wrote THIS!!!
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/227580-stoking-the-fires-final-edition-atlanta-braves-trade-rumors
Jay212033
July 30th, 2009
8:29 pm
Wow would that be an awesome deal for both the Pads and Marlins.
Marlins get:
Adrian Gonzalez – 1B
Heath Bell – RP
Padres get:
Andrew Miller – SP
Cameron Maybin – CF
Mike Stanton – OF
the hopes of the braves nation rest in your hands mr. hanson
July 30th, 2009
8:30 pm
Mike,
i was thinking the same exact thing on that play. he seems to do it a lot for some reason. it looks as though he gets so nervous that he cant grab the ball correctly the first time….
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
8:30 pm
UNC Brave, you want the pitcher to start the inning if possible, if the runner at the plate is the go-ahead run, then you pitch around him, but in the 5th inning you take your chances with the lead.
Steve
July 30th, 2009
8:30 pm
Why do we struggle with the Marlins???? We can beat up on the Phillies and Mets but we struggle with the Nationals and Marlins.
Zephyr 8
July 30th, 2009
8:30 pm
“Is Vazquez a NL Cy Young Candidate????”
Alot of people predicted he would be, and are looking smart right now.
Also any word on why Jeff Bennett “asked” to be released?
BravesfaninMD
July 30th, 2009
8:31 pm
The Braves messed with the formula when they sent Conrad back down…. he added a big spark and now they are back to their normal 3 runs or less routine….
BravesfaninMD
July 30th, 2009
8:32 pm
I hate KJ
DOB's Mom
July 30th, 2009
8:32 pm
Nothing has changed with KJ, worthless as ever.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
8:32 pm
Did Boog just say…..ahem…caulk???
Robert (Chipper Is The Best)
July 30th, 2009
8:32 pm
I know everyone is on the “we need a reliever” bandwagon but I will continue to say the Braves need another bat-one with power. I realize that is easier said than done but to me its a necessity. If that means trading Kotchman to get it then that is what has to be done in my opinion.
I know this will NEVER happen but it would be so nice to be able to net Victor Martinez.
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
8:32 pm
Now that’s the Kelly that we’re accustomed to seeing. 0 for 3 so far.
UNCBrave
July 30th, 2009
8:33 pm
I’ve said we need ANOTHER BAT for a LONG TIME
DirtyYuni
July 30th, 2009
8:34 pm
Dude, read DOB’s articles and you’ll know why Bennett got released.
It says very clearly that Bennett was tired of having to single-handedly screw up close games and didn’t feel like he could continue doing that at the pace he set earlier this year without some help. He was adamant that the Braves go out and pick up Bob Wickman.
The Braves declined, so Bennett asked for his release.
Jman
July 30th, 2009
8:34 pm
The Braves send No. 2-prospect, 1B Freddie Freeman, P Kris Medlen, LF-prospect Cody Johnson, and pitching prospect Julio Teheran to San Diego for Adrian Gonzalez and Closer Heath Bell.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/227580-stoking-the-fires-final-edition-atlanta-braves-trade-rumors
UNCBrave
July 30th, 2009
8:34 pm
We have to score 4 runs to win this game…NO WAY we win this game with 2 runs scored
Heath
July 30th, 2009
8:35 pm
I think Chipper needs to call his dad….
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
8:35 pm
Robert, I don’t even get the “we need a reliever” argument, in fact I haven’t heard an argument, lol, just people randomly calling for a new reliever. No idea why, makes no sense considering the two arms we’re getting back soon.
Another bat wouldn’t be bad, but I just don’t think that’d be enough to spark this offense. We have the wrong people swinging for the fences (just about everyone on the team), and a new bat isn’t going to fix that.
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
8:35 pm
I’ve said we need ANOTHER BAT for a LONG TIME
True. But not many here that I’ve read agree with you.
Shamus Thacker
July 30th, 2009
8:36 pm
Y’all mount and dismount bandwagons from at-bat to at-bat. Hate a guy one minute, love him the next. Yeah, schizophrenia is a valid diagnosis…
DOB's Mom
July 30th, 2009
8:36 pm
Cy VandenHurk
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
8:36 pm
Haha, way to hussle McCann!
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
8:36 pm
Mac’s hurt!
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
8:37 pm
Look at McCann hustle there. Nice rip there.
ACCTDAWG
July 30th, 2009
8:37 pm
two great hustle plays for Mac tonight
DirtyYuni
July 30th, 2009
8:37 pm
Mac’s slides are so ugly. He’s gonna hurt himself if he keeps doing that.
Love the hustle, but man….
Vinings Jim
July 30th, 2009
8:37 pm
cabravesfan – welcome home – I can stop yelling updates out my window. Do you remember the line in Airplane about having a drinking problem?
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
8:37 pm
The Braves have way to many strikeouts against this guy for my tastes.
He’s got more than Javy, the guy in 2nd place in Ks ..
Steve
July 30th, 2009
8:37 pm
Zephyr 8:
I would say YES to your first question. Win/Loss record is the only thing really hurting him. Rumor had it on the door was going to press charges on Bennett so he asked for his release. BMAC you a stud!
Larry
July 30th, 2009
8:37 pm
dangit. whats the score? whats going on? i came home to find that Bill Hohn had broken into my house and stolen my television, computer, and ironing board. now i am having to use the internet at the library. this is lame.
cabravesfan
July 30th, 2009
8:37 pm
VJ-
“and that’s when I developed my drinking problem…” LOVE that movie
Heath
July 30th, 2009
8:38 pm
IBB GA…wow…getting some respect. Well….doesn’t help that Hernandez is batting behind him.
Shamus Thacker
July 30th, 2009
8:38 pm
I don’t mean all of you, just the schizos…
kirkinga
July 30th, 2009
8:38 pm
For those still holding out for The One Big Bat, how do you make the salary work?
It is easier to get a good reliever at a price the Braves can afford and without having to punch a hole somewhere else.
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
8:38 pm
first Braves walk of the game
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
8:38 pm
This is where not having Escobar hurts. Also, not having Omar Infante hurts to because he can come in a play shortstop on a night like tonight. Diory Hernandez is simply over matched right now. He could definitely use some seasoning in Triple A right now.
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
8:39 pm
Jman
Stanton is the # 2 prospect in all of baseball. Maybin is a five tool center fielder. The Marlins offer is better than anything the Braves can offer unless we included Heyward and Hanson which we won’t.
ACCTDAWG
July 30th, 2009
8:39 pm
good idea JMan…but that package is significantly less than the one mentioned from the Marlins.
I do, however, love that trade. I’ll never understand why the Pads would want to trade Adrian, but I would sure love to have him.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 2009
8:39 pm
1. Would someone please teach McCann how to slide properly…
2. That was probably the most entertaining intent. walk ive ever seen in my loaf…Anderson is hilarious…bat down at his knees….for all four pitches
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
8:39 pm
Here’s where we miss Yunel.
Edward( Bobby Retires after 2009 or Bust )
July 30th, 2009
8:39 pm
So…we’re back to not hitting. This is fun.
ACCTDAWG
July 30th, 2009
8:39 pm
Touche Rob…haha
DOB's Mom
July 30th, 2009
8:40 pm
Diory Hernandez – The Hispanic Greg Norton
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
8:40 pm
For those still holding out for The One Big Bat, how do you make the salary work?
Try to get the your trading team partner do what what teams trading with the Pirates are doing … have them take on most of the salary
that’d be my guess
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
8:40 pm
The Marlins offer is better than anything the Braves can offer unless we included Heyward and Hanson which we won’t.
Spot on. This is why I don’t think we should go for a big bat–we don’t have the expendable pieces to do it.
Heath
July 30th, 2009
8:40 pm
Is that all of VandenHurk? Near 100 pitches, and his spot is due up.
BravesfaninMD
July 30th, 2009
8:40 pm
Terrible AB by Hernandez but he’s not a #6 hitter…. smart move to walk loaf…..
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
8:40 pm
3 straight K’s for Heyward
Jman
July 30th, 2009
8:41 pm
I realize that Rob but I’ve heard no one substantiate that rumor…
Land Shark Stadium
July 30th, 2009
8:41 pm
Mrs. Arlsburgerhhh?
Flowers.
Section 214.
ACCTDAWG
July 30th, 2009
8:41 pm
more roasting of Hohn…I love it
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
8:42 pm
but I’ve heard no one substantiate that rumor…
What rumor?
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
8:42 pm
Only difference between Norton and Diory: 1 homerun (leading to 1 extra rbi) and 21 points
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
8:42 pm
Steve from OH
Some people don’t understand that we can’t get a superstar player without trading Heyward or Hanson. Freeman is a good prospect, but nowhere near the level of Heyward or Stanton. Low A-Ball pitchers won’t get us anywhere.
ACCTDAWG
July 30th, 2009
8:43 pm
time to go to work on the pen
McFann =Ô=
July 30th, 2009
8:43 pm
Careful, there, BMac! Don’t need you hurt, too.
Glad he beat the freaking over-shift and hustled to make that a double, though!
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
8:43 pm
Rob from SC……..not that Heyward’s 3 strikeouts in itself is cause to keep him in the Minors…….however, as I’ve said before, Jason Heyward will more than likely stay at Double A for the rest of the season.
Good, now we are in the Marlins bullpen.
Heath
July 30th, 2009
8:43 pm
Guess that’s it. Time to work on the Marlins’ pen.
Land Shark Stadium
July 30th, 2009
8:43 pm
I’m only Dolphins Stadium, ma’am.
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
8:43 pm
JMAN
We don’t have the prospects to get a Halladay, Martinez, Gonzalez.
McFann :Ô:
July 30th, 2009
8:43 pm
Boo-yah…no more Rick!
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
8:44 pm
JMAN
If we offered Heyward and Hanson we could get almost any player we want.
Larry
July 30th, 2009
8:44 pm
If this same umpire crew works another Braves game at the Ted, I am going to sell Bill Hohn replica mustaches in the fan plaza. Then you can wear one and eject everyone sitting around you for no particular reason at all.
PWHjort
July 30th, 2009
8:46 pm
I like Boog. “Can’t steal first base”, that one’s going on my wall. “Speed never slumps”, that one isn’t going on my wall!
jeffrey d
July 30th, 2009
8:47 pm
Just got home…glad to see they put Hohn at third, right in front of the Braves’ dugout.
Can you imagine what would happen if McCann check swings on a 2 strike count? I’m sure that’ll be jovial.
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
8:48 pm
PWH–like I said, Boog seems like a smart guy. I wonder what name he posts under here?
I’ll bet it’s Shamus Thacker. Ah, nevermind, he’s and idiot.
Virginia Ranger
July 30th, 2009
8:48 pm
OK Lets put a crooked number up so I can hit the sack. We need at least 4 to win this one
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
8:48 pm
If Javy doesn’t labor through any of these final 3 innings it’d be nice to see him get his second complete game (first CG win) of the year.
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
8:48 pm
Vazquez is at 79 pitches through 6 innings. He can possibly go 2 more innings, and then give it to Soriano to save the 9th.
kirkinga
July 30th, 2009
8:48 pm
Try to get the your trading team partner do what what teams trading with the Pirates are doing … have them take on most of the salary
The Pirates are in full salary dump mode, the Braves are just in a holding pattern. In order to get your trading partner to eat salary, you have to give up more in talent. They aren’t going to just keep eat salary to be nice. I think it makes more since to trade for a need and at a salary point that comes close to a match. Kind of like what they do in the NBA.
ACCTDAWG
July 30th, 2009
8:48 pm
Predictions for tomorrow: big, exciting day or are all the big deals already done? (for the rest of the league mainly)
kirkinga
July 30th, 2009
8:49 pm
more sense I meant.
semiballcoach
July 30th, 2009
8:50 pm
why is greg norton’s wife a virgin?
greg can’t hit anything
Braves73
July 30th, 2009
8:50 pm
How in the he!! can anyone explain Bobby’s lineup tonight? The Braves are in dire need of a win and he runs out the combo of Diory Hernandez and Kelly Johnson????? This is the same old Cox stupidity that just kills me. It remind of the Tony Graffanino Danny Bautiste days. Is there any way we can trade Bobby at the deadline for some common sense????
Heath
July 30th, 2009
8:51 pm
Good eye by Kotchman there.
McFann :Ô:
July 30th, 2009
8:51 pm
jeffrey d–
Oh man…I didn’t think of that! Hopefully we won’t have to go there!
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
8:51 pm
ACCTDAWG, I’m thinking semi-active. Maybe a big name bat goes (possibly 2), as well as some relievers
JasonInFL
July 30th, 2009
8:51 pm
Rob from SC, I normally agree with you, but the Phils just got Cliff Lee without giving up a superstar top prospect. They kept their top 3-4 prospects, no? Admittedly, do not know nearly as much as most of you on here regarding prospects…among other things.
Bryan
July 30th, 2009
8:51 pm
Braves73
Escobar and Prado are injured. Who are you suggesting cox play instead, Greg Norton???
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
8:51 pm
I think all the major deals are done. The Padres might move Adrian Gonzalez, but who cares, the Indians might move V-Mart (would be the biggest move), I don’t think Halladay is going anywhere. Probably one or two relievers getting moved around.
semiballcoach
July 30th, 2009
8:52 pm
braves73—-joined regularly scheduled program already in progress
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
8:52 pm
ACCTDAWG -
No tellin’ man. I DO know….we don’t have the nads to pull off a big deal….or the pieces…..or the budget.
Heath
July 30th, 2009
8:52 pm
Braves73 -
Seriously? You’re kidding right?
DOB's Mom
July 30th, 2009
8:52 pm
I think every Braves batter has been in an 0-2 hole tonight.
Hedley Lamarr
July 30th, 2009
8:52 pm
Braves73,
Don’t reproduce, I beg of you.
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
8:53 pm
Braves73 you expect players to play when they’re hurt? They’re not dogs you can run into the ground and replace as soon as they fall over
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
8:53 pm
Siddown matty!!!!!!!
McFann :Ô:
July 30th, 2009
8:53 pm
Lightning goin’ on here. So if I disappear from the Blog at any point, just know either the power went out, or I had to shut down the computer.
BravesfaninMD
July 30th, 2009
8:53 pm
Swing the f*cking bat!
Braves73
July 30th, 2009
8:53 pm
They must have eaten too many black beans and churizo last night…are you kidding me?
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
8:53 pm
but the Phils just got Cliff Lee without giving up a superstar top prospect.
No, but they did get a good package. If we had a group of prospects like that in the minors, I think we’d probably already have a big bat with us now. But we don’t. Brown, Taylor and Drabek are their Hanson, Freeman and Heyward. We aren’t giving those three up and neither are they. But we cannot match Donald, Marson, Carrasco and Knapp. I’m actually higher on Carrasco than most anyway, so take that with a grain of salt.
ACCTDAWG
July 30th, 2009
8:54 pm
Yeah, I agree with the semi-active thought. I guess it feels more dead when we don’t really expect to be in too many of the rumors tomorrow.
pryguy
July 30th, 2009
8:54 pm
Marc,
I agree with you, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see the Dodgers or Red Sox make a big deal. As much as I despise the Sox, they seem like they are ready to pull a trigger on something big to jumpstart that team.
PWHjort
July 30th, 2009
8:55 pm
I’ve always liked Boog, Steve from OH. His humor is a bit cheesy at times, but I love the cheesy humor on a baseball telecast. Knows his sabermetrics, too. I’m curious as to what name he posts on here under too.
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
8:55 pm
Nate to try and avoid his 4th K
Heath
July 30th, 2009
8:55 pm
Javy and Lowe are far and away the best bunters in the team. No one else is in the same league.
N8
July 30th, 2009
8:55 pm
I see that worthless POS of a 1B we have has knocked in the only two runs tonight. Better get rid of him and sell high, huh? (eyes rolling)
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
8:55 pm
And I actually think Dominic Brown is gonna be a stud, so I fully understand why they didn’t trade him…
Hedley Lamarr
July 30th, 2009
8:55 pm
Braves73: They must have eaten too many black beans and churizo last night…are you kidding me?
And I give you the ever whimsical Braves73.
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
8:56 pm
WTF is Boog talking about?
Nate’s been 0 fer everybody lately!
o-me
July 30th, 2009
8:56 pm
good clip jman, thanks
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
8:56 pm
Huge RBI there
Heath
July 30th, 2009
8:56 pm
Finally.
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
8:56 pm
big run.
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
8:56 pm
Lol, way to drive it Natedog!
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
8:56 pm
PWH–what I’m most impressed with is that he seems to have slowly turned Joe onto some simple saber concepts, and Joe (to me) seems like the poster boy for old-schooly folksy wisdom-type baseball analysis.
ACCTDAWG
July 30th, 2009
8:57 pm
insurance
Heath
July 30th, 2009
8:57 pm
Kotchman either drivin’ ‘em in or scorin’ em.
BravesfaninMD
July 30th, 2009
8:57 pm
That would’ve been close if the guy hadn’t booted it
jeffrey d
July 30th, 2009
8:57 pm
Did Boog say he posts on here?
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
8:57 pm
KJ goin’ deep here?
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
8:57 pm
all he needed was vandenhurk out of the game
pryguy
July 30th, 2009
8:57 pm
N8,
So you don’t like Kotchman and appreciate what he’s done for this team? Are you crazy man??
I’m kidding.
Virginia Ranger
July 30th, 2009
8:58 pm
Get em on get em over and get em in. I believe you bloggers have been saying that all year. Is that what you hve been talking about or was this just an accident?
Line shot be Nate–much like last night. Go yard KJ
ACCTDAWG
July 30th, 2009
8:58 pm
I wouldnt go as far as McClutch…
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
8:58 pm
I don’t know if he’s said it or not, jeff, but it’s pretty obvious he reads the blog and if he reads it…
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
8:58 pm
Are any of you guys experiencing technical problems with your HD SportsSouth connection on Direct TV? Everything was fine until McLouth came up. I’ve had to switch it to the non-HD version of SportsSouth. SUCKS BIG TIME.
JasonInFL
July 30th, 2009
8:59 pm
steve from oh, cool…like i said…don’t know a lot about other team’s prospects. just going by what i have read…sounds like they gave up some prospects like we gave up in the tex trade…good ones, but not our top…
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
8:59 pm
JasonInFL
Cleveland did seems to “give” Cliff Lee away. Scouts love Knapp’s potential to the point where he has more “stuff” that Drabek but less of a sure thing. They still gave up there # 2-3-4-10 prospects.
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
9:00 pm
Anyone complaining about Boog… You could be stuck listening to the Marlins’ broadcasters. A Marlins player hits a routine pop-up and they figure out some way to make it sound like he came within inches of hitting a homerun. A Braves player actually hits a homerun, 10 rows back, and they figure out a way to make it sound like their outfielder almost caught it. This is when they’re not BS about past experiences in new/foreign places or some crap.
BravesfaninMD
July 30th, 2009
9:00 pm
OMG KJ MUST GO!!!!
Braves73
July 30th, 2009
9:00 pm
Hedley Lamarr – Do you have any thoughts of your own, or are you just going to post to everything I write? By the way, great comebacks dude….you are truly worthy a literary genius.
nolie
July 30th, 2009
9:00 pm
Damn Kotchman is just KILLING us. Get rid of the guy already!!!!
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
9:00 pm
a 3-1 foul out …. hmm
semiballcoach
July 30th, 2009
9:00 pm
kelly only goes 0-fer on days ending in y
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
9:00 pm
0 for 4 for Kelly tonight. Can he get up again and go for the 0 for cinco night?
John
July 30th, 2009
9:00 pm
I no longer have a “boy”….
PWHjort
July 30th, 2009
9:00 pm
Yes. I’ve noticed that too. Joe talking about on-base percentage? WHAT? Every time I hear him talk about OBP I think to myself, “he didn’t know what OBP was until he met Boog”. Joe’s mold-able, though.
McFann :Ô:
July 30th, 2009
9:01 pm
That was a great play that dude made on Nate’s hit…
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
9:01 pm
Damn Kotchman is just KILLING us. Get rid of the guy already!!!!
wow he’s not even batting and he gets bashed
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
9:01 pm
njbraves………I dont hear you saying much about Kelly now, lol.
Braves73
July 30th, 2009
9:01 pm
Paul Lentz – You ain’t lying, the non HD feed sucks!
JasonInFL
July 30th, 2009
9:02 pm
oops…didn’t realize they gave up their 2, 3, 4
Hedley Lamarr
July 30th, 2009
9:02 pm
Braves73,
Keep fighting the good fight, my friend. Ignorance is bliss.
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
9:02 pm
Jason–yeah, I can see that. Still, I don’t like that they kept both Happ and Drabek…though I think Drabek is a ticking time bomb for injury (Knapp too).
kirkinga
July 30th, 2009
9:02 pm
It’s great to have the “above average” Kelly Johnson back in the line up. Feels like old times doesn’t it?
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:02 pm
THe Marlins trades Gonzalez for Urbina. The don’t deserve to get him back.
McFann :Ô:
July 30th, 2009
9:03 pm
Marc–
Today I watched the replay of Bobby and McCann getting tossed, and the one on the “Official Site” is from the Marlins’ feed…OMGosh…those guys were way too annoying. I may hafta cut Chip a little slack tomorrow.
PWHjort
July 30th, 2009
9:03 pm
Steve from OH,
Did we find out why Zeke was demoted to the GCL?
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:03 pm
Steve from OH
Drabek already had Tommy John surgery.
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
9:04 pm
The Marlins do have a neat skycam thing going on where you get to see some views from what I’m guessing is a blimp or something.
Braves73
July 30th, 2009
9:04 pm
Hedley Lamarr – Wow, another good one buddy! No get back in your double-wide and have your wife fix me a hot ham & cheese.
jeffrey d
July 30th, 2009
9:05 pm
What if Boog is Paul Lentz? Would you guys be so cavalier about saying how much you like him (Boog) then?
John
July 30th, 2009
9:05 pm
Honesty compels me…That was outside
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:05 pm
JasonFL
There is also a big difference between Roy Halladay and Cliff Lee.
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:06 pm
Steve
Have you seen the numbers for Neftali Feliz since Texas made him a closer
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
9:06 pm
Drabek already had Tommy John surgery.
Huh. Didn’t know that. Still doesn’t make him immune for another one and doesn’t rule out shoulder problems
FEAR
July 30th, 2009
9:07 pm
What if Boog is Paul Lentz? Would you guys be so cavalier about saying how much you like him (Boog) then?
THAT would be hilarious!!!!
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
9:07 pm
How can Cantu see out from under that batting helmet?
Oh…..and……….ballgame!
deano54
July 30th, 2009
9:07 pm
We have 3 guys who are worthless – Norton, KJ, and Hispanic Norton (Diory
Johnson is a career 270 some hitter for a middle infielder….wouldn’t call him worthless
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:08 pm
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
9:06 pm
Drabek already had Tommy John surgery.
Huh. Didn’t know that. Still doesn’t make him immune for another one and doesn’t rule out shoulder problems
He did, I just re-checked the Baseball America prospect handbook
Hedley Lamarr
July 30th, 2009
9:08 pm
Braves73: Hedley Lamarr – Wow, another good one buddy! No get back in your double-wide and have your wife fix me a hot ham & cheese.
And we’ve started with the kindergarten pissing match, eh? Fun times.
JasonInFL
July 30th, 2009
9:09 pm
true, but it is not like cliff lee is chopped liver…that being said, doc is doc!
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
9:09 pm
Braves73 -
Oh noez you din’t! Not a “trailer & a sammich” reference !!
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:11 pm
JasonInFL
I have never been a Carlos Carrasco fan. His numbers never come close to his hype. I also don’t think Jason Donald can play SS in the majors which lessens his stock. Marson has potential, but they already have Carlos Santana. It all depends how Knapp turns out and he is a long way away and he already has shoulder discomfort.
deano54
July 30th, 2009
9:11 pm
nice play
Vinings Jim
July 30th, 2009
9:11 pm
CBF – y’boy!
McFann :Ô:
July 30th, 2009
9:11 pm
Beautiful, Kotchy!
jeffrey d
July 30th, 2009
9:11 pm
THAT would be hilarious!!!!
Wouldn’t it?? On the last game of the season Boog would be like “GOTCHA!” And this whole Paul Lentz thing was really just a big joke by Boog.
ACCTDAWG
July 30th, 2009
9:11 pm
I know losing this series hurts a little, but avoiding a sweep before going home for a few days is really huge. Lets finish this game strong and get ready for L.A. tomorrow night!
cabravesfan
July 30th, 2009
9:12 pm
Adam Dunn watches that ball fly right by him…
BravesfaninMD
July 30th, 2009
9:12 pm
MJ had his silver glove; CK will have his gold glove!
Casey Kotchman
July 30th, 2009
9:12 pm
Lets see…. driven in two, scored the other and just saved a double. Let’s get rid of him.
SoWeGa Fanatic
July 30th, 2009
9:13 pm
JV is at 97 pitches. I run him back out there for at least one more inning. Dude is a hoss.
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:13 pm
I like what Pittsburgh has done the past few days. Tim Alderson has #1 starter upside. Jeff Clement’s bat might take off now that he doesn’t need to worry about learning the finer points of catching. He will play 1B for Pitt.
Braves73
July 30th, 2009
9:13 pm
Mixxo – I couldn’t resist…Hedley has been hammering my previous posts so I had to pull out and olde but goody. No maybe we can move on to other things.
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
9:13 pm
Rob–I think Donald will be a pretty good 2B, which is exactly what Cleveland needs, and besides they’ve got Chisenhall in the minors. Marson will be at least serviceable, especially if they trade V-Mart and he’ll be a good backup if they decide to let Santana DH or play 1B every so often. I like Carrasco because of the good fastball and changeup and good command–IMO, the essentials for being a good ML starter.
ACCTDAWG
July 30th, 2009
9:14 pm
if Kotchman finishes the year without an error and doesn’t win a Gold Glove, there is something wrong with the system
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
9:14 pm
Adrian doesn’t catch that probably. I hope the Marlins trade for him, they have too many good prospects, it’s scaring my a little. Adam Dunn looks like Willie Mays compared to Adrian Gonzalez, let’s hope they deal for him and give up Maybin and (brain fart, the #2 prospect dude). That’d be sweet IMO.
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:14 pm
I am happy for Dan Meyer. Oakland almost ruined his career by making him adjust his mechanics.
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
9:14 pm
Rox 4
Mutts 1
Virginia Ranger
July 30th, 2009
9:15 pm
Hey Roonie Paulino.. I have a Ronnine Paulino bobblehead. More valuable that a Billy Hohn bobblehead
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:15 pm
Marc from FL
I would do that deal in a second if I am San Diego, but I wouldn’t want Andrew Miller. I would ask for VandenHurk or Sean West instead.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
9:15 pm
Come On Hoss!!!
BravesfaninMD
July 30th, 2009
9:16 pm
Chipper definitely not the force he has been in the past…. he needs to pick it up bigtime.
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
9:16 pm
Hoss trying to pull that outside pitch ……for Hohn?
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:16 pm
Chipper is struggling
Gov. Clinton Tyree
July 30th, 2009
9:17 pm
See that grab by McLouth???
He’s a very good centerfielder. Everything he possesses went into that play – well positioned, fast, smart. That could have easily been a gapper. He got to it with room to spare, kept the runner at second with a crisp throw.
I’ve got no problem with him in CF for the next four years. If Schafer comes up and hits, great, but this wide disparity between the two afield, I’m not seeing it.
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
9:17 pm
Looks like Rangers could land Halladay.
They said on MLBTR that if they can agree on the players in the deal, that Rangers would eat remaining amount on Halladay’s contract.
Driver8
July 30th, 2009
9:18 pm
Was that Bill Hohn fist knock with the Marlin’s catcher on YouTube or any video? I have a friend who doesn’t think he did it and I would love to show him otherwise. Any help here friends would be appreciated.
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
9:18 pm
Mixxo, that would be funny if Chipper’s been trying to hit everything right at Hohn all night. And what kind of last name is that, is that Netherlands or something? Hohn? This isn’t Star Wars dude retire already!
N8
July 30th, 2009
9:20 pm
I think I’ve figured out what’s wrong with the team (or at least the perception of the team).
On the Braves official site, the headline for this game reads: “Braves turn to stopper to salvage series finale”
Who the hell writes these damn headlines? Do they watch baseball? Do they understand the terminology of particular phrases or words like “stopper”???
The Braves are 10-10 in Vazquez’s starts (not all his fault – horrible run support), and following a loss, the Braves are 6-5 in his starts. Javier’s “record” is 6-4 in those starts with 1 no decision.
Now, I realize the run support has been horrendous for him (and the other Braves starters), this season. But a “stopper” is somebody who stops losing streaks. He is somebody OVERCOMES poor run support to lead his team to victory to end those losing streaks (or prevent one from starting following a single loss).
Oddly enough, Tommy Hanson’s record following a Braves loss? Braves are 4-0 and his personal record is 3-0.
Derek Lowe has started following 12 Braves losses, and the team has gone 6-6 in those starts.
I’m seein a trend here. The team is hovering around .500 and all of their pitchers are about .500. They are about .500 following losses, and they are around .500 following wins. Not too many losing streaks. Not too many winning streaks.
Like I said. I’ve figured it out. This team has no true “stopper”. Blame the offense all you want. But when Maddux only got 2 runs of support, he found a way to only give up 1. If the Braves only scored 1, he shut the other team out.
Stoppers WIN following a loss, regardless of circumstances.
This team needs a stopper.
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2009
9:20 pm
Gonzo up in the Braves pen, but Vazquez starting the eighth
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:21 pm
BravesFanChris24
Any deal with Texas would have to start with Derek Holland/Neftali Feliz and Justin Smoak
KnightInATL
July 30th, 2009
9:21 pm
I like it…let’s go Javy
Supes
July 30th, 2009
9:21 pm
Casey Kotchman campaign for Gold Glove needs to be launched next month if he keeps this up. it doesn’t get any better than that defensively folks. We can always argue about Casey’s offensive production/numbers wise, but he’s top of the line defensive 1st baseman.
Casey Kotchman – Glove Master!
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
9:21 pm
Rangers or Angels are the two most logical places for Halladay now that Phillies got Lee, but I think all of baseball is being careful after we made the Tex trade, especially the Rangers who know all to well how easy it is to over value one player.
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
9:22 pm
Marc from FL
My guess is German.
http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Gie%C3%9Fen_-_Theater_-_Hohn.jpg&filetimestamp=20080917183045
Supes
July 30th, 2009
9:22 pm
Go Javy, one more inning! Work horse!
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2009
9:22 pm
Uh-oh
BravesFanChris24
July 30th, 2009
9:22 pm
3-2
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
9:22 pm
Dammittt!!!!
That Ross Kills Us!!!
N8
July 30th, 2009
9:23 pm
Like this game for instance. The Braves have given Vazquez 3 runs to work with. Let’s see if he can manage to lead them to victory.
Maddux would have.
Supes
July 30th, 2009
9:23 pm
Cody Ross is one strong midget with a big ugly stick. I hate that guy!
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
9:23 pm
Whew, That One Was Hit into the Bermuda Triangle….!
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
9:24 pm
Marc from FL
Jus sayin’……..I had a girlfriend of German heritage, she had a nice ’stache too.
ACCTDAWG
July 30th, 2009
9:24 pm
Javy’s fault, not Bobby’s before that garbage starts
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
9:24 pm
Remember Jacobs and Olivo? Gawd those guys killed us all the time and they were both just… horrible.
N8
July 30th, 2009
9:24 pm
So would Tim Hudson.
stynes
July 30th, 2009
9:24 pm
Did anyone else see Hohn fist bump Ross as he rounded 3rd?
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:25 pm
Javy is done, go to the pen before it is too late
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
9:25 pm
Julio Teheran impressive tonight…8 IP, 2H, 1ER, 1BB, 11K.
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:25 pm
So would Hanson
jeffrey d
July 30th, 2009
9:25 pm
So now we’re comparing Javy Vazquez to Greg Maddux. That’s pretty fair.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
9:26 pm
Agreed, With some of the Cats on here! If this team has any shot of winning the WC…Chipper Needs to Come Correct during the stretch like he did in 1999…
I don’t think that will happen because he is ten years older…
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:26 pm
Steve from OH
Can’t trade that kid either
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
9:26 pm
Mixxo, that statue is supposed to represent what Hohn will look like two years from now (McCann will stealth-rip his mustache off in his sleep after being ejected two more times next year for not fist-pumping him before the 9th inning).
Oh, and my wife’s half-german, germans are hawt!
Robert
July 30th, 2009
9:26 pm
“Now if Frank Wren can find some way to get rid of Greg Norton without pissing off Bobby Cox”
Paul – Instead of getting rid of one bad player at a time that Cox continues to use, why doesnt Wren just solve the whole problem in ONE move and get rid of Cox?
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2009
9:26 pm
Moylan also up in the ‘pen
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
9:27 pm
Marc From FL
Don’t Forget Mike Redmond…He Used To Own Tom Glavine…!
John
July 30th, 2009
9:27 pm
I can’t decide if Javy is “done’ or not….I’ll let you know here in a minute…
Mitchell
July 30th, 2009
9:27 pm
Thank you Bobby for not taking him out. Let him get out of it on his own.
And you know what, if he doesn’t, I’d rather see that than the bullpen give it up.
I heard his sac bunt on the radio. Another thing he does well unlike the rest of the team.
I’m guessing we missed out on some opportunities to add on. Sounds like KJ’s been tearin’t it up tonight.
Sarcasm.
ACCTDAWG
July 30th, 2009
9:27 pm
two references for DOB tonight on TV!!!
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
9:28 pm
Ahhh…LOL
D.O.B…
I knew That Joe And Boog Read this Blog…!
Lovely
Robert
July 30th, 2009
9:28 pm
Because the home run wasnt enough of a clue – he had to leave Vasquez in to walk a batter to make it interesting
Moron Cox
Mitchell
July 30th, 2009
9:28 pm
Come on. Swing at that you jackass.
G Damn it. Let’s please not blow this. They better be ready tonight Bobby.
John
July 30th, 2009
9:28 pm
C’mon Bobby !!…Javy was “done”…shoulda never left him in to walk that guy….
ijudgenot
July 30th, 2009
9:29 pm
For all who still think Bobby Cox is not passed his prime, I give you exhibit A. Leaving a noticeably tired Vasques in game in 8th after he had given him 7 strong innings. First batter hits a homerun and Cox still leaves him in game. Javy is straining to throw in 90s and his fast ball is now riding back across plate in the hitters zone like KK last night. Here comes Cox 2 batters too late.
BravesfaninWis
July 30th, 2009
9:29 pm
Holy crap,the Braves have finally rid themselves of Jeff Bennett? He actually asked for his release knowing that no team in their right mind would sign his worthless a$$? Finally, we are free of Jeff Bennett, about time..
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
9:29 pm
Had the “Feast Or Famine” Offense Spotted Javy 5 runs plus, he’d be going for a complete game
You can’t bash Javy here….
Supes
July 30th, 2009
9:29 pm
DOB,
Boog just gave you and the blog a shout out on TV
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
9:30 pm
Robert, seriously man, chillax. Pitchers give up homeruns all the time, it really doesn’t mean much, the walk on the other hand, that was the give away I think.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
9:30 pm
Come On Gonzo…I wanna see Waste Helms G.I.D.P.!
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
9:31 pm
Must be nice to have a pinch hitter on your bench who is batting. 345 with 7 doubles as a pinch hitter.
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:31 pm
Here we go again.
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
9:31 pm
Here
We
Go
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
9:31 pm
Gonzo, Come On!
Mario Mendoza
July 30th, 2009
9:31 pm
wes helms owns the Braves, always has, always will
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
9:31 pm
Helms and Ross, the dynamic duo of destruction!
o-me
July 30th, 2009
9:32 pm
JV’s last pitch was 94 mph……judgenot!
Well you got what u ask for, base hit.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
9:32 pm
Co-Sign MIXXO! This Happens every night it seems…!
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:32 pm
We should trade Gonzalez: He is a arm injury waiting to happen AGAIN!
Robert
July 30th, 2009
9:33 pm
As if on cue – time for Bozo to screw it up. It would be funny if it werent so sad
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
9:33 pm
I’m not going to bash Bobby Cox for leaving in Vazquez to pitch the 8th. Even a tired Vazquez is better then anyone but Soriano in the bullpen. Vazquez has shown that he can grind it out. Bobby took a chance that he could get through the 8th, it just didnt work.
Gonzalez can still get out of this inning.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
9:34 pm
I swear If The Blow-pen Blows another one Of Javy’s starts, I’m Gonna Get Crunk!!!
o-me
July 30th, 2009
9:34 pm
Mr Wren , go get Michael Wuertz.
Cuck-a-Too
July 30th, 2009
9:34 pm
Not good. If we lose this game the season is over.
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:34 pm
Gonzalez throws to many sliders. This guy can’t hit high heat
brian
July 30th, 2009
9:34 pm
Billy Hohn looks like he should be dancing the YMCA. Construction worker, cop, umpire?
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
9:34 pm
97MPH from Gonzo, yeah, it’s safe to say his arm is feeling good again.
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2009
9:35 pm
They went ahead and did x-rays on escobar’s wrist, which came back negative (which is, of course, positive)
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:35 pm
Wuertz would cost Medlen plus. Maybe even Freeman
N8
July 30th, 2009
9:35 pm
“So now we’re comparing Javy Vazquez to Greg Maddux. That’s pretty fair.”
Why not? According to everybody on here he shouldn’t be traded. I’m not really comparing him to Maddux.
Just saying that he’s NOT a stopper. Never has been. Never will be. Maddux was. If you’ve got a problem with those facts, take it up with whoever writes the headlines on the Braves offical site. Not me.
I would NEVER insult Greg Maddux by insinuating that Vazquez is remotely in his league “talent wise”. Just stating that Maddux was a stopper.
HOWEVER…… Many have stated that they would rather have Vazquez over Tim Hudson next year, and with 3 runs of support or more, Hudson is/was pretty much unbeatable during his career. Even more so than Maddux.
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2009
9:35 pm
… unlke that wild pitch, which was very negative.
Larry
July 30th, 2009
9:35 pm
here we go. i hate my life.
DOB's Mom
July 30th, 2009
9:35 pm
Gonzo in to blow another game.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
9:35 pm
WTF Was that!!! ARRRGGGGGHHHH!
rafael
July 30th, 2009
9:35 pm
throw the fastball Mike!! your curve ball is not working.
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
9:35 pm
gonzo laying an egg
Justafan
July 30th, 2009
9:35 pm
It would be great if Braves and Fish could flip mgrs.
brian
July 30th, 2009
9:35 pm
here we go. Could this be the Philly series from last year for the Braves? Next pitch will tell us
CrimeDog
July 30th, 2009
9:36 pm
These are the Javy Vazquez starts I know and love. No run support. Bullpen adventures. Oh Boy.
rafael
July 30th, 2009
9:36 pm
bout time
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:36 pm
Walk Ramirez and bring Moylan in to face Cantu
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
9:36 pm
This Is really Beginning to Piss Me Off!!!
Jimmy Joe Jimbob
July 30th, 2009
9:36 pm
That K was HUGE
brian
July 30th, 2009
9:36 pm
huge strike out. Need one more out
John
July 30th, 2009
9:36 pm
Hadley gonna hit one to Tim-Buck-Two…oops Dude just K’d…nevermind
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:36 pm
I would love Fredi G to come home
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
9:36 pm
Good Move Here…You don’t let their Franchise Playa Beat you! Nuff Said!
rafael
July 30th, 2009
9:37 pm
this is the ballgame. need to put soriano in there for 4 outs.
Roja
July 30th, 2009
9:37 pm
Let’s see if that dastardly ump lets another inherited runner score.
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
9:37 pm
Cantu scares me.
Maybe it’s the helmet.
Edward( Bobby Retires after 2009 or Bust )
July 30th, 2009
9:37 pm
This thing is OVER!!…go ahead and sell high Mr. Frank Wren..
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
9:37 pm
Sometimes Gonzalez has a hard time finishing off hitters.
However, BIG STRIKEOUT THERE.
However, Ramirez is coming up. Now the Braves are walking him. Now it’s Cantu’s turn to come up.
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
9:37 pm
Gonzo is throwing heat tonight, leave him in, go for the strikeout. That’s my play here.
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:37 pm
NO No No!
Larry
July 30th, 2009
9:37 pm
if moylan walks in the tying run i am going to smash my face into the wall.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
9:37 pm
My Narrow Ass Is Getting Nervous!!!
Larry
July 30th, 2009
9:37 pm
oh wow hes leaving gonzo in
Bill
July 30th, 2009
9:38 pm
amen to that Rob.
DOB's Mom
July 30th, 2009
9:38 pm
This one is on Bobby if we lose.
Jman
July 30th, 2009
9:38 pm
that was a strike
richbrave
July 30th, 2009
9:38 pm
KOTCH saves the day. VASQUEZ continues his masterful performance – the entire season of 2009. What a steal! And the “CHAW” is gone. Thank goodness. Will the BRAVES win it? Come on MIKE G.
DirtyYuni
July 30th, 2009
9:38 pm
Come on, Gonzo. Get this done.
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:38 pm
i have a BAD feeling
John
July 30th, 2009
9:38 pm
Sometimes I think it’s better to bring your stud closer in during the 8th inning….then let the Moylan’s of the world…pitch the 9th….to the lower part of the order
rafael
July 30th, 2009
9:38 pm
i am getting really nervous. not liking the count
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
9:38 pm
I’d rather see Gonzalez stay in there. Moylan has been TOO INCONSISTENT, plus his control is sometimes shaky when he first comes into a game.
N8
July 30th, 2009
9:38 pm
“Good Move Here…You don’t let their Franchise Playa Beat you! Nuff Said!”
Unless Gonzo walks him.
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
9:38 pm
Didn’t see much wrong with that 0-1 pitch.
The Lammer
July 30th, 2009
9:38 pm
we have three guys in the top six in the league in appearances. How is that even possible when you have a rotation as good and consistent as ours?
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
9:39 pm
Gawd Dammitt!!!!
Funky Butt-Lovin!!!
This Place has been and always will be a house or Horrors for the braves!
Jman
July 30th, 2009
9:39 pm
sonofa
NCBravesFan
July 30th, 2009
9:39 pm
“I blame Bobby-fest” coming in 3 – 2 – 1 …
CrimeDog
July 30th, 2009
9:39 pm
Awesome.
DOB's Mom
July 30th, 2009
9:39 pm
BALLGAME!
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:39 pm
WTF was that
DirtyYuni
July 30th, 2009
9:39 pm
That’s some crap luck right there.
Larry
July 30th, 2009
9:39 pm
awesome. wow. we suck.
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
9:39 pm
cant say i’m surprised
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
9:39 pm
Our luck!
rafael
July 30th, 2009
9:39 pm
that’s just bad luck. everything is against us.
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
9:39 pm
Did… Did Chipper just… Did Chipper just roll over on the infield? Did that just happen?
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
9:39 pm
Another Wasted CY Outing By Vazquez!!! This Team Really Pisses Me Off!!!
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
9:39 pm
Well that…sucks. Bad luck again
Heath
July 30th, 2009
9:39 pm
Crap.
Roja
July 30th, 2009
9:39 pm
If it weren’t for bad luck, the Braves wouldn’t have any luck at all!
CrimeDog
July 30th, 2009
9:40 pm
NCBravesFan-
Come on, you know Bobby should have barehanded that ball and fired to first!
Mitchell
July 30th, 2009
9:40 pm
The Marlins can suck it.
I don’t give a sh*t, we’re winning this damn game. Cheap f*in’ little hit.
Bunch of bitches. Come on Mike.
Edward( Bobby Retires after 2009 or Bust )
July 30th, 2009
9:40 pm
LOL…this team is a laughing STOCK!!….SELL SELL SELL!!
Jman
July 30th, 2009
9:40 pm
Lose this one and it’s over with Braves fans…
Richie
July 30th, 2009
9:40 pm
another blown save – Thanks MIKE!!!
kirkinga
July 30th, 2009
9:40 pm
Another missed strike call! Followed by well, something not so good.
Need some help in the pen folks.
Larry
July 30th, 2009
9:40 pm
got to get an out here.
DirtyYuni
July 30th, 2009
9:40 pm
That’s a different AB if the ump calls strike 2 on Cantu. And he’d been calling that a strike all night.
brian
July 30th, 2009
9:40 pm
for the future standpoint – the standing of Soriano and Gonzalez will bring us great draft picks which we can use to help rebuild the farm. I would assume the Braves will offer them both arbitration. Anderson will also bring draft picks but it would be interesting to see if the Braves would take a chance on offering him arbitration. My guess would be no as his value in arbitration would be high above what he would get on the open market.
rafael
July 30th, 2009
9:40 pm
gonzo finally decides to throw some strikes. after the damage has been done.
the hopes of the braves nation rest in your hands mr. hanson
July 30th, 2009
9:40 pm
that hurts…
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:40 pm
Big K
Heath
July 30th, 2009
9:40 pm
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
9:40 pm
Bad luck there. Still, Gonzalez’s wild pitch set that situation up.
Now we need to score some more.
Doc Holiday
July 30th, 2009
9:40 pm
Gonzalez in the game = big L
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
9:41 pm
At least Gonzo Showed some emotion!!!!
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
9:41 pm
Marlins like walkoffs hope they can prevent this one
wow
July 30th, 2009
9:41 pm
what a puss hit
Jman
July 30th, 2009
9:41 pm
Freakin Wren GO GET SOME BULLPEN HELP!!!! And a freakin bat!!!
brian
July 30th, 2009
9:41 pm
huge strikeout for gonzo. Hard to fault him for giving up a swinging bunt
Dubya Cubed
July 30th, 2009
9:41 pm
We have work to do. That sucks.
Mr. Enigma
July 30th, 2009
9:41 pm
Mike Gonzalez has been a total shadow of what he was for the first three months.
Mitchell
July 30th, 2009
9:41 pm
F you Marlins.
We’re winning this F-ing game. Have some faith Braves fans.
Roja
July 30th, 2009
9:41 pm
Well, Gonzo did his job – another inherited runner scored.
Jake W.
July 30th, 2009
9:41 pm
Boy, if we don’t get beat by so many of hits like that. Just a shame. Oh well.
o-me
July 30th, 2009
9:41 pm
Braves better make some moves or its Ballgame for the season.
Couldn’t blame javy if he wanted to be traded.
Heath
July 30th, 2009
9:42 pm
1-3 guys… 1-12. Yuck.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
9:42 pm
“I’m not going to bash Bobby Cox for leaving in Vazquez to pitch the 8th. ”
Agreed, but I will bsh him for leaving Vasquerz in after giving up a baserunner/home run in the 8th. He came to the rescue two batters too late – puts Gonzalez into the game with a man on instead of the bases empty, which is two different scenarios entirely
If Cox takes Vasquez out after the home rrun , it stays a 3-2 ballgame
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
9:42 pm
DirtyYuni
You know it!
brian
July 30th, 2009
9:42 pm
how many runs have we scored this series???
Shamus Thacker
July 30th, 2009
9:42 pm
Vazquez robbed again.
Dubya Cubed
July 30th, 2009
9:42 pm
Wild pitch definitely cost us a run. Tie game.
UNCBrave
July 30th, 2009
9:42 pm
I can not STAND Mike Gonzales…At this point, I’d rather put in Kris Medlen
JasonInFL
July 30th, 2009
9:42 pm
i would have brought in soriano…
if we lose, do we at least entertain offers?
wow
July 30th, 2009
9:42 pm
wow if we get swept you have to figure its real close to season over i hate to be negative but lets remember we have the best team in baseball coming up for about 7 games
N8
July 30th, 2009
9:42 pm
Face facts folks. This team’s “peak” is 3 games over .500.
I’d get an extra battery for my cell phone if I was Frank Wren, because it’s going to start ringing like crazy in the next 18 hours.
To quote Mortimer Duke from Trading Places: “Turn those machines back on! Turn those machines back on. Tell Frank to SELL….SELL….SELLLLLLLL!!”
Big Chief
July 30th, 2009
9:42 pm
Now that they released Bennett maybe they will cut more dead weight and release Gonzo
Larry
July 30th, 2009
9:43 pm
we have to come back and win. i cant take 3 losses in a row. if we lose i am going to drink every bottle of salad dressing in my fridge. i got like 9 of them. a couple are chunky blue cheese. that’ll show em.
Supes
July 30th, 2009
9:43 pm
Casey Kotchman to the resque!
Bubba
July 30th, 2009
9:43 pm
I ready to sell. Esco and prado hurt, gonzo starting to suck and offense going back into the tank.
richbrave
July 30th, 2009
9:43 pm
He’s been overworked coming of surgery as has MOYLAN.
brian
July 30th, 2009
9:43 pm
Robert – I have to agree a little. With the monster homerun followed by the crushed line drive out it was obvious that Vazquez did not have it anymore. He should have come out right then
Jake W.
July 30th, 2009
9:43 pm
Injury to Yunel hurts, weakens the lineup especially when your number 2 and 3 hitters are hitless. Lets go bottom of the order.
The Lammer
July 30th, 2009
9:43 pm
Another Game…another Blown game from Bozo…this isnt cuttin it
Shamus Thacker
July 30th, 2009
9:43 pm
It’s bedtime for Bonzo.
Heath
July 30th, 2009
9:43 pm
A loss here would be devastating to the Braves hopes for the playoffs.
DOB's Mom
July 30th, 2009
9:43 pm
Gonzo is terrible, trade him to somebody, anybody. Diory up, 1 out.
McFann :Ô:
July 30th, 2009
9:43 pm
This really stinks bad…I really despise the Marlins.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
9:43 pm
So now if we can win this game for a second time, we will have overcome Cox’s mismanagement. But while we are trying to win it, Cox will still be working hard at continuing to mismanage.
This is hopeless.
Chris
July 30th, 2009
9:44 pm
Someone said it earlier, sending down Conrad and bringing back Kelly messed up the good karma we had going.
NCBravesFan
July 30th, 2009
9:44 pm
That’s right Robert, the bad 0-2 pitch to Helms and the WP that followed had nothing to do with the Fish tying the game. Yep, it was all because of a runner at 1B. Thanks for clearing that up for us.
Dubya Cubed
July 30th, 2009
9:44 pm
Whifffff!
CrimeDog
July 30th, 2009
9:44 pm
Oh man. And I was feeling the Diory bomb there. *kidding*
Heath
July 30th, 2009
9:44 pm
D.H. is a pretty easy out.
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
9:44 pm
*yawn* Diory Ks
now that he’s out of the way, lets score a run!
ACCTDAWG
July 30th, 2009
9:44 pm
haha Larry…
Mitchell
July 30th, 2009
9:44 pm
Diory Hernandez sucks.
Tell me something I haven’t know for two months.
Shamus Thacker
July 30th, 2009
9:44 pm
Jake, you’re right, Yunel would have made a difference somehow.
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
9:44 pm
What exactly has Cox done wrong today?
NORRIS
July 30th, 2009
9:44 pm
kotchman had an error the other night. unless they changed it after the fact. He should have had one earlier in the year when he did run to first base to tag a man out. he waited on the pitcher and the guy was safe. so…kotchman has had errors. they may be holding out on him because of his rep. but the guy has made some bone headed plays.
DOB's Mom
July 30th, 2009
9:44 pm
Diory needs to go back to tending the crops because he is NOT a ballplayer.
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
9:45 pm
You people criticizing Gonzo are making me laugh. Our bullpen is fine.
N8
July 30th, 2009
9:45 pm
“Vazquez robbed again.
Are you frickin kidding me??? He got three runs of support, and couldn’t hold it. And couldn’t get out of the 7th inning. ENOUGH with the pitty party for Javier Vazquez.
HE gave up the HR to Ross, and HE gave up the walk (that ended up scoring).
Javier Vazquez NOT being a stopper robbed this team of a win. Not the team robbing him. I’m not saying he hasn’t been robbed before. He has.
But not tonight against a team we’re chasing in the wild card hunt and in a MUST WIN situation. Time to man up and bring your A game.
He didn’t.
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
9:45 pm
Sell Frank !
At least we can get something for next year.
JEFF
July 30th, 2009
9:45 pm
welcome back to 500 boys and girls. the braves are about to be swept by the marlins.. unexcusable and now there tied. 2 runs in the 8th and will guarantee a marlins walk off win…. went from a good team to a bad team once again in 3 games.. congrats..
Rafael
July 30th, 2009
9:45 pm
Should have won Tuesday night and should be winning tonight. Lose tonight, it’s going to be a hard battle to overcome 4 teams in the wildcard.
CrimeDog
July 30th, 2009
9:45 pm
Have a day Kotch.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2009
9:45 pm
KJ Gets Traded Tomorrow For a decent middle reliever and a prospect, “Bank On It!”
That Last inning just showed the F.O. why we need another decent middle reliever…
We will not add onto the payroll by adding another bat…
Marc from FL
July 30th, 2009
9:46 pm
Kotchman CARRYING the team tonight, even I am a little suprised by that one.
brian
July 30th, 2009
9:46 pm
I have no sympathy for Bennett. At a game earlier this season I watched him walk buy a bunch of kids asking for autographs over an hour before the game (they make people leave the designated autograph area when it gets under one hour before the first pitch) – he told the kids he would be back after he warmed up a little and then laughed. He knew full well that the kids would be cleared out.
WIth his being granted free agency, do the Braves have to pay him anything DOB?
DirtyYuni
July 30th, 2009
9:46 pm
Nice. Now Krotch can use his speed to score.
Rob from SC
July 30th, 2009
9:46 pm
GOnzo needs to fix his s*** slider
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2009
9:46 pm
What a bum, that Casey. Couldn’t even motivate Diory to get himself in scoring position for that single…
Mitchell
July 30th, 2009
9:46 pm
That’s right. Take that Braves bloggers.
We’re winning this sh*t.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
9:46 pm
“This really stinks bad…I really despise the Marlins”
For what? Taking advantage of Cox’ mistakes? For trying to win instead of working for the Braves to win.
The Marlins are trying to do their jobs sweety. Only their efforts arent handicapped by the strategic decisions of a moron
ChurchMan
July 30th, 2009
9:46 pm
N8 … all that needs to be said is nobody would agree with you
CrimeDog
July 30th, 2009
9:46 pm
N8, you were joking right?
Roja
July 30th, 2009
9:46 pm
Well, Mendoza is on deck.
UNCBrave
July 30th, 2009
9:47 pm
Pinch hit DAVID ROSS please not GREG NORTON
Paul Lentz
July 30th, 2009
9:47 pm
Here comes Greg “Mr. 6 for 50 for the season” Norton coming up as a pinch hitter. I’d rather see Derek Lowe come up as a pinch hitter.
NORRIS
July 30th, 2009
9:47 pm
yep. i just looked it up. they took his error off the book and changed it. it was an obvious error. bobby even took him out of the game after he did it.
Justafan
July 30th, 2009
9:47 pm
Fredi”s got the Braves #. Good damn mgr.
Jman
July 30th, 2009
9:47 pm
KJ’s going nowhere if Prado is hurt… At least Conrad might get to come back up though…
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
9:47 pm
Steve from OH –
He’s done nothing wrong Steve, it just seems “fashionable” to put the blame on him for everything lately.
Robert
July 30th, 2009
9:47 pm
“That Last inning just showed the F.O. why we need another decent middle reliever…”
No. What good is another middle reliever if you dont bring the relievers in until it’s too late?
Jeffro
July 30th, 2009
9:47 pm
Just got back….Bennett gone?….Geez I guess dreams really DO come true….Send KJ and I can die in peace.
Larry
July 30th, 2009
9:48 pm
if norton comes up to pinch hit i am going to crack up
Dubya Cubed
July 30th, 2009
9:48 pm
whiffffff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
UNCBrave
July 30th, 2009
9:48 pm
Pinch hit DAVID ROSS please not GREG NORTON please
The Lammer
July 30th, 2009
9:48 pm
Javier Vazquez to the Red Sox for Buccholz, and Casey Kelly….That could be a start, eh?
Mixxo
July 30th, 2009
9:48 pm
Thanks matt.