2:31 pm July 30, 2009, by David O'Brien
Wren In Doubt
July 30th, 20094:29 pm
NJ Braves – your KK post. Right on the money. Guy is killing us.
oof. KJ 0-9? Dang. Everyone will be right back all over his jock if he pulls an 0 ‘fer.
July 30th, 20094:30 pm
I am a huge loser. My life is so boring and meaningless that all I do is post on other teams boards.
summarily – as in without delay -
yeah I’m so dumb I occasionally make a typo
njbraves you are just a dips^it
Frank from KS (now living in CO)
To reply to your post about players fratting with other players.
I think inter-league started that.
Inter-league while in some instances has been pretty cool…..it’s killed a lot of good things about the game….like for instance, the ASG.
Are you an ANDERS clone? I mean. trade our most consistant and arguably best current starter. Fa’ gidaboudit Z.
Nova Scotia Steve
July 30th, 20094:31 pm
Pirates about to finalize trade of Grabow…man…they are really cleaning house.
Wren in doubt…thanks bud. I’m happy with all the moves Wren has made, except for the KK signing. he’s not terrible, but they spent too much money on him.
As opposed to huge losers who post under other peoples names?
July 30th, 20094:32 pm
Of course you don’t. Ask McFANN.
I agree with you at 4:13, 4:21 and 4:24.
Use the incident with the ump and the knuckle bump as motivation to kick some butt.
Anders still thinks the Yanks will give us Joba or Hughes for Javy…or the Sox will give us Bucholz…LOLOLOLOLOL….God Anders you are dumb.
July 30th, 20094:33 pm
Still working on the LSAT from yesterday?
Heres a little more gas on the fire, Hohn is the guy that screwed up in Boston with bad calls, screwed up last night with calls and fist bumping which nothing more than a conservative high five. Anyone remeber this? This has happened twice but I’m referring to the first time it happened, but remember the game where there was force at home, I think the ball was bunted to the pitcher the out was made at home and then threw to first hitting the runner I think, the runner was in fair territory long before first and they didn’t call interference. I think it was Hohn that called no interference. Joe and Boog show the replay and after the force at home the ump neglects to direct his attention to first to watch the play when its his call and he argues no interference; he wasn’t even looking! This jerk has costs us multiple games. Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but Im pretty sure it was “Luigi”.
Let's Go Bravos!
If Hohn is umping one of the bases tonight, it should be the goal of one of our players to hit the ball as hard as they can at him and hope that it takes off that stupid mustache!!
July 30th, 20094:34 pm
Hohn’ll be standing next to Chipper tonight..
HEADLINE: New Hampshire Sports Reporter Accused of Running Prostitution Ring
DOB, I’m thinking secondary income? Huh?
July 30th, 20094:35 pm
Robert…yup, you got me..I’m a dipsh#t. I’m the one who mentions farm animals in all my post and only comes on the blog when the Braves lose so I can blame the manager, even if he didn’t do anything wrong. Thanks for clearing that up.
“Hahn is a good man off the field.”
Then that is the perfect place for him, isn’t it?
July 30th, 20094:36 pm
Nice seeing you here AGAIN. Be cool, and don’t you be no fool.
Heath – I think he’s either on the way to do something and keeps going, or he has already decided to stand pat and does so. He’s not going to change course based on a few bad strike calls Tuesday and a few bad pitches by KK last night.
Francoeur will be a hall of famer now that he is with the Mets. The great Howard Johnson will fix his swing easily.
LOL. Fall down funny man!!!!
July 30th, 20094:37 pm
That games that Eric Gregg called in the playoffs was the worst job of officiating ever. He was a terrible ump. No way to dispute the fact. He made a joke of that series. He was terrible.
Enter your comments here
The Grabow trade is being held up, because the Pirates had to send out for another box of candles. Gotta get the shrine set up and ready to light, first.
I am gay.
njbraves – The ship sailed on Joba and Hughes. The Yankees wouldn’t give you either of those guys for Javy now. I suggested trading him for Hughes back in the spring before he showed how good he is. Now I suggest a package with Cano in it and maybe a prospect like Moreno?
I’m guessing all the garbage we’ve been shipping over to your state has created gasses that now cloud your mind. Try and keep up.
July 30th, 20094:38 pm
Bold, unabashed prediction for this Braves team in 2009. They’ll win between 77 and 87 games, (5 over or under the .500 mark), miss the playoffs and we’ll again have to suffer through another 2010 season of the over-the-hill gang leading the Braves with B Cox, he of accelerating senility, in front of the parade.
capps, duke, and maholm better start packing, there the only major leaguers left… looks like the pirates read the marlins handbook on firesales, they just missed the page that covers winning the world series every few years
Piedmont Blues (ex-BFIR)
So far, other than the trade for Sherrill and Lee, have any of the buyers making lower-profile trades really improved themselves?
Ryan Garko? (Can he play 1B at all?)
Freddy Sanchez may be an upgrade over whoever it was playing 2B. I guess.
I’m glad Wren hasn’t given up anything of value on a deal like these.
Francoeur will be a hall of famer now that he is with the Mets. The great Howard Johnson will fix his swing easily. (Anders II)
Rick in Dallas
July 30th, 20094:39 pm
Great Moves we Missed on
Smoltz 1-4 7 plus ERA
Griffey 215 BA
Thank you Frank
Anders…actually genius, you suggested those moves no more than 2 days ago. I killed you for it then too. Why would the Yanks trade Cano?? Give me one good reason.
July 30th, 20094:40 pm
RichBrave – 4:33 is funny. Keep in mind somebody’s posting under my name.
looks like the pirates read the marlins handbook on firesales, they just missed the page that covers winning the world series every few years
July 30th, 20094:41 pm
njbraves – Youre the one who watches games where a manager has made enough stupid moves that if it werent for him we’d be winning the division but continues to makes excuses for him and who condones finding ANYTHING to blame except Cox. Actually, you’re not even that. All you are recently is someone who says nothing more than, “Robert, you;re dumb”
dude, I’ll be more than happy to match wits with you if you ever find any – until then, you’re entitled to your opinion about me, as uneductaed as it might be
July 30th, 20094:43 pm
Keep in mind the Mets will make the playoffs. We have Francoeur now. And we have the great Omar Minaya to lead the way.
I think you’ve got a shadow. Dude, “I am gay.” Surely you did NOT put out that random post. If so well, this isn’t the military, O.K. No one cares. BTW, I’m not.
Rick in Dallas…
Don’t forget Jake Peavy…who’s all but lost for this season after making less then 10 starts!
Russell, you’re doing nothing but stoking my fire on the Conrad situation. I think they should give him a chance. Of course, where do you put him? Maybe at second and move Martin Prado to first? Don’t look now, but Garrett Anderson is knocking on the door of 10 homers. Who would have thunk that at the beginning of the year?
July 30th, 20094:44 pm
Why would the Yanks trade Cano?? Give me one good reason. (njBraves)
I’ll give you two. They need another starter – Bad.
They already have about $60 mil in the other three infield positions and even the Yanks have some limits. Especially since they haven’t sold out but a couple of games.
CK has put up solid numbers the entire year despite not hitting for big power. He has more walks than stikeouts – the only Brave other than Chipper. That coupled with two monster shots over 400 feet by Kotchman leads me to believe he chooses to make contact instead of trying for power. Just speculation and would like some input.
July 30th, 20094:45 pm
Padres open to dealing Adrian Gonzalez
Though the Padres have said over the past weeks that they would not move Adrian Gonzalez and risk alienating a fan base that has little to believe in these days, San Diego has reportedly reconsidered, according to ESPN’s Buster Olney (subscription required). The Padres are now open to dealing both Gonzalez and closer Heath Bell if they believe it will help the team in the long-term. San Diego’s front office has spent the past day evaluating talent from other organizations that have expressed interest in striking a deal — including the Red Sox, who have asked about the availability of A-Gon — and began listening to offers for their first baseman and closer on Wednesday. Any offer from the Red Sox would likely be built around Clay Buchholz, though it would surely take more to pry Gonzalez away from San Diego. — NESN …..Ben’s Take: If the Padres trade Adrian Gonzalez, they’ll have to count seagulls in the nightly attendance count.
Braves Nation….Do you think the Braves should go after him?
July 30th, 20094:47 pm
I would, but knowing it’ll cost us nothing less than Jason Heyward, i doubt we go after him.
Maybe something like Jurrjens, Freeman, Schafer, Medlen would get it done, but thats ALOT to give up.
the cost would be way too steep in my opinion…think Hanson/Heyward/Freeman range (and no, I don’t mean all 3 but I am betting one for sure)
Gov. Clinton Tyree
July 30th, 20094:48 pm
Excellent song choice.
Need a W tonight.
Snidely Whiplash….perfect. Dude is a large bag of douche.
July 30th, 20094:49 pm
Adrian Gonzalez – NO
Anders…don’t totally disagree with what you said, but I don’t see them moving Cano for Javy, who has already given NY a shot.
July 30th, 20094:50 pm
Please, Anders. As you said earlier in the season regarding Soriano, let’s let it play out. I like Francoeur, but you can’t be certain that HoJo has only put lipstick on the pig. Dude has only 1 walk so far – not everything’s changed.
July 30th, 20094:51 pm
Anders..Cano only makes $8million…that’s peanuts for the Yanks. They can say they have payroll restraints all they want, they really don’t. They can pretty much afford to add as much payroll as they see fit.
Would Freeman/Kotchman/Medlen/Schafer do the trick? I mean A-Gon would be worth considering, especially since he is signed to a friendly contract and could be resigned maybe.
“Don’t tell, let me guess”
UNCBrave…………dude, it is illogical for one to say that Frank Wren isnt doing anything to improve the Braves. He has to balance improving this year’s team with not mortgaging the future of the team. If the Braves were in the Phillies position, I could see Wren making being more aggressive making a trade. However we arent. Even if we make a trade, there is no guarantee that we will make the play-offs.
So unless the right deal crosses his path, Frank Wren will probably not make a trade. I’m more than ok with playing this season out and giving Wren a chance to spend this winter making moves to rebuild the offense, like he did last year with the starting pitching.
Let the fun begin...
July 30th, 20094:52 pm
Here is William John Hohn’s official confirmed address.. Have fun people
1406 ROYAL OAK DR
BLUE BELL, PA 19422
Any conversation about Gonzalez opens and closes with Heyward. Or Hanson.
You are right, that is a lot to give up. He is under contract for 3 more seasons, gives the same defense as Kotchman(if not better) and would give the lineup an instant power jolt.
NC Braves Fan
I’d venture to guess that KK is going to the bullpen once Hudson comes back. The Braves have a big decision to make about Huddy this offseason and they’re going to want to see how he bounces back. (And my guess is that the Braves will keep either Hudson or Javy next year – but probably not both.)
Also, if the Braves fall out of it in the next few weeks it wouldn’t surprise me if Gonzo got traded on a waiver deal, provided he’s injury-free.
July 30th, 20094:53 pm
I wonder if the Braves will throw at Baker tonight. One can only hope.
Thrillhouse – I only posted that because the wise ass was using my moniker. I’m with you on your 4:50.
July 30th, 20094:54 pm
I would trade for Gonzales in a minute. Maybe Freeman, Schafer, Medlen. Then trade Kocthman for reliver.
July 30th, 20094:55 pm
cabravesfan – I don’t believe I have responded to your vicious, age-ist attack on me earlier. What was I just saying?
OK, I usually guess at the lineup and DOB posts it while I am typing away. But, I guess it will be:
CF Nate McLouth
1B Martin Prado
3B Chipper Jones
C Brian McCann (He takes Billy Hohn out on a slide into third tonight)
LF Garret Anderson
SS Yunel Escobar
2B Kelly Johnson
RF Ryan Church
P Javier Vazquez
This Chris says no. I hope not.
Good song choice today. I think I’ll play it later.
July 30th, 20094:56 pm
Freeman, Schafer, Medlen … ?
Don’t think that’s enough, but hmmm.
Robert-Maybe you’d better hire that winch and pull your head out of your lower intestine before you decide to attempt matching wits.
Marc from FL
July 30th, 20094:57 pm
DAP – it’s costing us games cause of our mindset. Anytime this team hits a couple homers everyone in the line-up reverts back to their swing-for-the-fence mentality. That wouldn’t be so bad if we had someone on the team that had better than 20HR power, lol, but we don’t so it’s just creating a lot of flyball outs. McCann is notorious for this. Though you can’t blame him too much as he is our #4 hitter now.
Kotchman has actually played well, if KJ is getting the start, it might be straight up for Prado.
I believe you brought up the whole age thing…I was merely offering sympathy for your plight and marvelling at how you survived through such trying times- tell me, what was the Great Depression like?
A-Gon wouldn’t really be mortgaging the future as it’s been said he’d be under contract for 3 more years and would like be resigned if he likes playing in ATL. If anyone was worth dipping into the strength of prospects, it’s him. I doubt Hanson/Jurrjens/Heyward would even have to be apart of it. Freeman while good, would be replaced by A-Gon. Add Medlen, Schafer and possibly another piece at lower ball with ceiling and it’d be a good trade.
July 30th, 20094:58 pm
A-Gon has to be worth considering on some level? If the Braves are going to make a WC push, the Braves need a bat in this lineup. They can deal with waiting a couple of weeks for Hudson and Infante as well. I just don’t believe the Braves can stand pat and give the “ole college try” per se, at the wild card. It is right there for them.
Chris I wonder if the Braves will throw at Baker tonight.
I doubt it, but you never know…
I keep thinking I’m gonna come on here and see a headline saying that Bobby and BMac got suspended.
KillerHohn C Brian McCann (He takes Billy Hohn out on a slide into third tonight)
Hey, I’d be satisfied if he’d just get to third tonight…via hit or walk, of course. None of the “reached on error” or “fielder’s choice” junk…
like I said I like McCloth, I just think us having to use him in the leadoff spot shows how little depth our lineup has. (Russell)
you do realizt that the OBP you are complaining about is pretty much the same as what Furcal averaged while leading off for the Braves after his first year? Not sure what your complaint is. There are any number of worse leadoff hitters in MLB
A. Gonzalaz is a wash-up who’s having a decent year, no way do I give up Freeman for him.
July 30th, 20095:00 pm
Lets hope we have a big lead towards the end of the game and Baker is up with Logan on the mound and he lazers a 95mph heater right in the ribs. Logan looks like he can kick some butt so I’d like to see baker take a punch to the mouth. Come on, ya’ll know you want to see it too.
Even throw in Jo Jo since he pitches good in San Diego ~_~
Marc from FL McCann is notorious for this. Though you can’t blame him too much as he is our #4 hitter now.
Our cleanup spot is cursed…Andruw Jones cursed it in ‘07…
In all seriousness, though, BMac needs to get out of that spot ASAP. But I know! I know! Who else are we s’posed to put there…
cabravesfan – the only great depression I am personally familiar with is feeling sorry for whatever poor guy ends up playing second fiddle to your wit and brilliance.
forget the curveball, Ricky
July 30th, 20095:01 pm
Hohn and his dickbrooom can go to hell
Other, pacifist Chris:
Grow some balls. That stuff is out of line. If I’m Bobby, I tell Vazquez to nail him square in the back.
wjones, regarding your 4:21 post, what is your solution to the Braves overload of starting pitchers? Citing the unofficial DOB quote that he wouldn’t want to put a guy (Hudson) into a role he’s never assumed (relief) is all well and good, but by that reasoning, it would seem you’re suggesting that the Braves should bump their $60 million man, Derek Lowe, to the bullpen. Besides, he’s the only starting pitcher of the potential six with any substantial work out of the pen. You also mentioned Smoltz, but I see that as contradictory. Sure, they’re different kinds of pitchers, but Smoltz, much like Hudson, was coming off of major surgery and the move to the bullpen helped ease his transition back to the rotation. Seeing no seasoned bullpen man in the current rotation besides the guy you’ve paid to be your ace, I say don’t mess with the rotation and ease Hudson back into competition for a rotation spot next year with a one inning at a time mentality for the remainder of 2009.
Richie, I say no to going after Adrian Gonzalez. You have to figure that Atlanta would have to pay a huge bounty for Gonzalez. Who would those players be? Is it worth trading away Braves of the future for a first baseman who hits .240? Yes, he hits home runs, but it’s feast or famine with Gonzalez. Who is to say that Freddie Freeman won’t be brought up in a a year or so and be more of what the Braves need. By that, I mean he hits for average, is a good fielder and also hits 20-25 home runs. He appears to have that kind of ability. If you have someone like him waiting in the wings, why trade prospects for a player like Gonzalez who will almost surely by his presence dictate that Freeman be traded? I don’t see Atlanta adding a hitter at all. Paul Konerko? Prospects for a 35 year old? I say play it out. If San Francisco acquiring Freddy Sanchez and Ryan Garko means Atlanta doesn’t win the wild card, it likely would have done so in the first place. No knee jerk reactions.
July 30th, 20095:02 pm
you can get mark reynolds for probably half of what you have to give up for gonzalez and he’s younger therefore cheaper, plays 3b and lf as well as 1st, will steal about 25 bases this year and most importantly, has better number in basically every offensive category. plus he is right handed
July 30th, 20095:03 pm
Why would you trade Freeman for A-Gon, Freeman could be the next A-Gon, just like Hanson was the next Peavy. No way you include Freeman for A-Gon.
Word is that the Phils are still looking to grab Halladay from the Jays. Halladay, Lee, Hamels, Blanton, Moyer for this year and next year.
See you in 2011, Braves fans.
July 30th, 20095:04 pm
Kelevra, that’s a good point. Does anyone remember trading multiple prospects for a power hitting first baseman in the Braves past? That didn’t work out too well, did it? I don’t think Gonzalez would put the Braves in the playoffs. Why do it?
Here would be another cool scenario. Marlin gets on second. Tries to steal third, knowing he will be called safe by Hahn. McCann gets ball, fires toward third, and….throw is a little off to the left, nailing Hahn in the mustache! Chipper alertly fields the ball off his face.
Retired on the Lake (formerly cityofdecatur)
July 30th, 20095:05 pm
July 30th, 2009
Best move Wren could make right now is dropping Norton and calling up Conrad.
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT
Philly Insider: Thats funny, cause i dont see anything on any websites about that.
Quit pulling stuff out your ass.
I never thought of Mark Reynolds. That would also be worth the look. Won’t cost as much for sure.
July 30th, 20095:06 pm
I’m pretty sure that we would have to give up Hanson or Jurrjens, plus Freeman and others for Adrian. I could be wrong though….
July 30th, 20095:07 pm
george Sherrill to the Dodgers
You’d love it
Remember when Caminiti said like 75% or so of the players were roiding and most (including me) scoffed at him? I believe him now.
Him and Canseco weren’t kidding. (Anders)
I believed him then. The few guys who are still in baseball from my scouting days always told me that aroundt 2/3 of the players were on PEDS at its highest usage level and many of the rest were on speed
July 30th, 20095:08 pm
After the Peavy debacle during the off season, I don’t think the price will be that steep.
Philly Insider-What part of the Phillies can’t afford Hallady AND Lee do you not understand? How can they justify it after low balling Howard for a couple of years? Despite what you seem to think, Philly does not have NY or LA money. They are stretched to the limit. Why do think they refused to pony up Happ and Drabek, Dude? Think it might be because they’ll need that cheap pitching in the lineup when all those sluggers come up for new contracts?
Better hope they can win it all this year or next. After that your lineup crashes to the ground under the weight of their collective salaries. You ain’t the Yankees.
We talk baseball, other sports, music, movies, BBQ and whatever (except politics or religion)
Atlanta Braves RSS feed
Previous entries »
Send a feedback technical issue
Vacation stops, manage subscriptions and more
Visitor Agreement | Privacy Statement© 2013 The Atlanta Journal-Constitution